Deftones transcend categorization. Nu metal is awesome but Deftones accomplished something incredibly unique with their sound. Parallel to calling Radiohead alternative or alt-rock. Doesn't really do them justice
Tough to do when Stefen drops a half step in tuning with each subsequent album, I think he said "fuck it I'm gonna play a bass on the next record" after diamond eyes.
This really makes me hear how much Abe's drumming is a huge part of shaping the sound in Deftones... Without the drums it sounds way different. He also really does creative parts with what the other instruments play.
The reason Deftones are still as huge as they've ever been is that Chino's vocals are actually pleasing to the ear, unlike all the other nu metal crud. His dynamics against Stephen banging rhythmically away at his guitar and the tasteful drumming and bass holding it all together is a timeless combination. That and they never seem to phone it in on anything they do, honestly.
Well since nobody seems to comment on how you guys did....I think you did a good job, goes to show you don't need a tube amp and effects pedals for everything. Love this band!
Yeah, this bugged me that Bea just turned it down out of hand, especially because they got in such a fuss about spending too much on the guitar they got but the LP style EC-407 B 7 string they turned down is £100 cheaper! Yes, the differences in woods and construction might make some difference but not that much! They're both 27" scale length 7 strings with EMGs and Tune-o-Matic style bridges. Close enough, I'd say and an extra £100 might have bought them a real amp. The Amplifire sounded pretty good but I wouldn't want to play a pub or club gig with one without at least a power amp to run it through as you're putting yourself at the mercy of the state of the venue's often inadequate monitors.
I like the idea of using modeling for the challenge. Maybe do a challenge where one of you picks out a real amp/pedal rig and the other uses digital modeling to see who gets closer?
Adrenaline was recorded with an ADA MP-1 preamp (with the power section of a JCM900). The settings were a little fizzy for that album. I had an ADA MP-1 when they were still $150 ($600 on Reverb now) - I did a 3-tube modification on it so it had a triple rectifier-like board and it was a massive sound when paired with a Peavy Classic 60/60 power amp. Unique too, I recommend it for someone looking for their very own angry tone. Around the Fur he used a combination of the MP-1 and the JMP-1, which is just a Marshall preamp with MIDI controlled settings like the ADA MP-1. Anyway, that's the end of my preamp story, goodbye.
@@jrock8233 I actually tried my very best to replicate his tone from Adrenaline with a pedal haha. The digitech Grunge distortion. Its about as close as tone gets without busting the bank on preamp and amp sims
For all the people saying Rory Gallagher: -Squier Classic Vibe 60's Stratocaster -Vox AC15 -Ibanez TS9 -A capo and a slide if you're feeling cheeky Anything else would probably be extraneous, as Rory's rig was actually pretty spartan compared to most of his contemporaries. Though from the mid to late 80's up to his death he did use a Boss multi-effects rig. And that's pretty much it.
Well that completely negated my need to see an episode, as I'm sure it did for everyone else. How about you just write one of those for all the artists and then we don't have to bother with any of these videos at all.
This is amazing! I'm a massive Deftones fan, I thought it was really well done and amazing out of the box thinking to get the tone. I'm amazed that you can cover around the fur right up to Diamond Eyes with this setup (and probably Gore and everything in between). It's sad that Deftones are so far removed from other sounds that I like, I'd love to play some songs like them but I'd need a whole separate rig just to sound like them occasionally. Still, that pedal seems really cool, completely out of my price range but maybe one day!
you guys always do a great job. this turned out perfectly. this is quickly becoming my favorite channel, and "sounds like" is definitely my favorite segment.
Ben's rig is rather simple to understand, so it's not too rough to get down. An MH or normal Horizon with EMGs is a good start, then for amps, seeing as he uses Mesa, I'd say probably go for something with an American tone, so perhaps a 6505 combo. For Pedals, either a Crybaby Wah or a Morley Bad Horsie will work with that, a Swollen Pickle for distortion, and a strobe pedal, if there's any money leftover, then you go and grab a compressor.
Bold move to go digital for the amp. Nice to see for a change, especially as it is more relevant to bedroom guitarists (let.s be honest: 80-90% of people watching this) than a massive Marshall or what-not.
You guys did a great job on this one. This is the type of vid I like to see - you guys got creative to make the sounds that you wouldn't have been able to do with normal gear on budget. Very cool and interesting, this vid. Thanks for the fun video!
First two albums were on 6 strings in E standard and D flat. Would’ve been less of a headache to have copied that sound 😂🤷♂️ but you did do a blinding job with this 👍
Great job! The "Change" clean riff was pretty much spot on. I think it was a good move to go with the 7 string because then you could do all record pre Diamond Eyes and to be fair, I don't think his tone has changed all that much since then except the added 8 string for extra Meshuggah-ness. The baritone model might have helped you now for the DE era stuff, I felt it was a little weak, maybe because of the low tuning, maybe a little floppier and less punchy than the original. (My Own Summer was on point though!) Sound good though! I would have liked to hear some more stuff from White Pony and Saturday Night Wrist but, what can you do :) Next WBTB I would like to hear The Smashing Pumpkins! Peace
wow you nailed change in the house of the flies. Bea its not just tone. You translate the emotion of the player very well. I can see you go somewhere when you play. And the bass line matt also seems to go there too. Great stuff dudes. If I ever visit your side of the pond I have to meet you two gents. Cheers
Sounds great guys. I have been a diehard Deftones fan since the early 90’s. I have been to a show for every album except the latest one. The only thing you probably could have done to make it more accurate would be a splash of Chorus and some Delay. The amp sounds are close. He doesn’t even use his tube amps anymore though. He goes straight from Axe Effects to PA now. This was definitely a solid low cost approach to getting his sound. Agree on someone’s Schecter comment. Lots of 7-string Schechter’s with EMG pickups. I am a fan. I have two Schecter 6-strings. One with EMGs.
You find a 7 string with emg's at a decent price but "its not the right shape." You guys REALLY need to remember this is Sounds Like, not Looks Like. Why does it matter if its a Les Paul shape? And sadly this happens alot in this series. Either being determined on a color, shape, etc. You really need to re-evaluate how you approach this series.
Tiny Star not really. We decided that the in store segment would have been way too short if we just picked the LP shape up. We ALWAYS say, "this is sounds like not looks like" I don't think we've ever not chosen the right guitar because of its shape other than this video, and that's because We knew we would find the right guitar. It's not happened a lot if at all before, so not sure why you've said that. In any case, we decided to prolong the search, sorry if it stopped you enjoying the episode
Yeah but surely you do this series to "sound like" and not "make the store segment long enough"? And you could put the part where you found the guitar you ended up using before, if lenght was the issue. On the other hand, it's nice you chose a different "amp" for a change. Can you please write here the exact signal chain?
Guitar body shape has a DRASTIC effect on overall tone, in case you didn't know that. Telecasters have a more resonant, rich tone than Les pauls despite being not very different from each other. Strats have brighter tone and have less low end than those other two because of the additional cutout. Explorers have really good sustain because the body is very large. Guitar shape has a larger effect on tone than even pickups and string intonation. You will never truly sound like a specific artist until you use the same guitar as them. You can't sound like Tool without a Les Paul, you can't sound like John 5 without a telecaster, and you can't sound like system of a down without an Iceman. no matter what kind of amp, pickups, or strings you use
I've scrolled through half of the 1500 comments so far and NOBODY has a comment of how they sounded? I don't know The Deftones so I don't have an opinion. I was glad that the budget forced them off their tube amp island for once. It seems like a Marshall Code 100 2x12 would have done the job just fine. Please do Peter Frampton or Lenny Kravitz
Clayton Duguay in my opinion, close but no cigar. They didn't do the research in my opinion, which is odd for them. He is using 8 Strings now, not tuning down a 7 to F#. The tone is close but they could've gotten closer with a Schecter omen 8, and something like a Zoom or a Line 6 HD500. 6/10 I would think.
It's not odd, it's that they are human. Also remember WHY this video exists. This series is NOT about helping people achieve that tone (that would be an extremely different looking series and one which I wish someone would do) but instead it's to showcase gear for Andertons so people will want to buy it. Honestly they TRIED to say it but should have just been straight up and done 3 guitars (6, 7, and 8) and gave options because the Deftones have grown their sound so much and have specific eras of their music that you really need something that can do that. You can't get low enough with a 6 (possibly if it's a baritone) for anything from the self titled album and beyond and with either a 7 or 8... well... good luck playing the thrash of Adrenaline, the groove of Around the Fur, or the melding of the two in White Pony... it's too hard which is why Steph switches out guitars. Oh and if you watch interviews with Steph about White Pony then you will know yes he used a 7 on that however he used two high e strings (basically like Wes Borland) at the time. It wasn't until the self titled that he dropped low enough to NEED it.
This would be great! Although have you seen how many pedals he uses? I guess you could get away with a tubescreamer and a big muff a squire jazzmaster and a small marshall or something. Probably need some other tones in there though, he uses some really wierd effects I think!
I see everyone shouting the name of their favourite band in the comments, but no one saying how good it was ! Great job, and I think it's completely legit to have digital modelling pedal to emulate an Axe-FX. Looking forward to the next !
Jonny uses a telecaster with a built in Killswitch button so they could get a Squier tele deluxe or a vintage modified but if the Killswitch isn't a big deal then a Modern Player tele would sort you out! for this i'll go with the killswitch, he uses Vox for cleans and Fender for the Higher gain stuff, so Bassbreaker 15 combo would be a shout, fx is a toughie cos he uses a lot, but i'll say Pro Co Rat to replicate his Marshall Shredmaster, Phaser and Envelope filter for Paranoid Android's 2nd solo (if rabea is daring enough to play it!) and i know he uses a whammy in live versions so get that! Fender Squier Telecaster Deluxe - £355 Fender Bass Breaker 15 - £517 Pro Co RAT Solo - £176 EHX Nano Small Stone Phaser - £61 Dod 440 Reissue Envelope Filter - £90 Digitech Whammy V - £170 TC Electronic Hall of Fame Mini - £85 Grand Total - £1454
William Allison Woah, that's pretty good!! But there is one really necessary thing, an echo pedal, the Boss RE20 is the one the uses live, it's required to play almost every song by Radiohead.
Even though Gojira's rig is pretty simple, A "Sound Like" would be great because i'm sure there's always something to learn ('and hearing gojira is ALWAYS a pleasure) !
Lukas Lechner and they won't even take the time to learn how to play a Smiths riff correctly, let alone tune guitars over and over again for just one song.
after Deftones I'm not sure whether you were watching. There were loads of different tunings. Also they learn the songs by ear. Of course they will make mistakes. Some of the comments astound me.
Stephen Owen Well Sonic Youth tunings are a LOT HARDER to achieve than Deftones Tunings. And literally, when you decide to sound like a band as culturally and musically important as The Smiths, you better Damn well get it right or be Ripped apart in the comments
One of the most interesting "sounds like" to date. Do show us the occasional "bedroom rig" like this, direct output/cab emulation and all. For a moment I thought you were about to bust out a Zoom G5n + a cheap digital amp, so I was pleasantly surprised with this one!
Thanks so much for doing this one! Been waiting so long to see it attempted, and I think it's far to say you got damn close, awesome job. Do think you missed a trick not doing a rig for Chino, given he now plays live on about 50% of their songs during live shows. Would have given you the opportunity to play some of their more layered/sonically diverse songs (Sextape, Beauty School, Entombed, Hearts/Wires etc), but that probably would have taken an age to set-up! I'm knit-picking, brilliant video. Sound like Cancer Bats or Alexisonfire (large up Canada)!
These guys think the Deftones are worth emulating. It's unlikely in the extreme that they even have a clue who Jaco Pastorius was.... MUCH less being able to cover his playing.
I think it would be useful not just knowing the gear to buy (which is ok, since this is a guitar shop channel), but also showing the settings of amp + fx to get a similar sound. Good job
I have been studying Steph's tone for a couple years now and even bought his signature 7 with an AxeFx 3. No, I'm not made of money and it took me being married and saving for 10 months to get one, but Steph's tone is so freaking difficult to get when you take your time and try to replicate it. It is not easy at all. The fact you guys did it in a day or two deserves props cause it is pretty close. I'd say you're 80% there and thats a grade B. When you just come across trying to make his tone, you're going to have a hard time. Steph is one of those guys that obsesses over his tone. Don't believe me? Go look for every video featuring his gear. He's got bias FX, AxeFx, guitar rig, all sorts of stomp boxes, power amps, cabinets, cabinets that are mic'd. He has spent alot of time on his sound! I hope I can meet him one day just to chill.
I find these videos interesting and I can sometimes tell when something is double tracked after listening and if you can't get a tone super matched if you want to, than I recommend experimenting with double tracking if you want to do a cover because some distortion stuff on some albums was mixed with double (with stuff played almost the same, but not exact on each guitar track). There has been even more tracks made for some riffs sometimes. Sometimes double tracking could sound like a chorus effect thing, but still double tracking sometimes gives a more accurate sound for tone matching.
William Allison Hard to say cause the guitars that are close to what alexi uses are pretty expensive. And thats reason I'd like to see them make the video cause its pretty tricky to get the sound that alexu has :)
Alexi is using very small gear. Watch his rig rundown videos. You just need a guitar with only neck pickup. LTD is a cheap choice for this. And that pick up must be a EMG with Pull/Push boost. Or basically you can add a boost pedal. A wah pedal for some solos, he uses kirk hammet sig but every wah would work. Boss dd-7 for delay. And an affordable Marshall type amp. Same tone guranteed.
I have a Gibson-scale 7-string (yes, you read that right) tuned down drop E. Yes, a full octave. Basically a dropped 8 string tuning with the highest string left off, and extra extra think strings. It's a beast but it works.
Easy - get a made in indonesia Jem, vai actually goes through quite affordable amps, the legacy carvins, best bang for your buck is to get em both second hand.
ok for Steve Vai this is my analysis, He has two different signature Ibanez guitars, the JEM and the Universe, the Universe is a 7 string but it's way too much money and you can actually get a cheaper version of the JEM so we'll get that, if there is none then an RG350 would work, for amps he uses Carvin Legacy which they don't have so egnater tweaker and he also uses a crap ton of FX so i've picked a few Ibanez JEM JR - £420 Egnater Tweaker 15 - £430 Boss DS1 - £40 Dunlop Cry Baby Wah - £90 Boss CH1 - £80 Digitech Whammy DT - £210 TC Electronic Hall Of Fame Mini Reverb - £85 Boss DD7 Delay - £135 racking in at an immense - £1490
The tone for Change (In the House of Flies) was spot on. Everything else was close. You did better than I thought because that's a hard tone. For his White Pony tone I got it with affordable gear. Sadly hardly any of it is made anymore. I use a Marshall 9100 for dirt and a Orange Crush 20RT for cleans. I use an old Ibanez RG HH hardtail with EMG's with 12-56 strings tuned to drop C. I also use a few pedals. I only play anything off of White Pony.
Deftones transcend categorization. Nu metal is awesome but Deftones accomplished something incredibly unique with their sound. Parallel to calling Radiohead alternative or alt-rock. Doesn't really do them justice
Malachi Reznor you took the words from my mouth.
This
their best albums are nu metal tho
@@billrobertjoe subjective but, some of my favorite deftones work is their later stuff in Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan, which arent nu metal.
In what universe is White Pony nu metal
Wow, that bass tone is the real winner here.
Helium Road yeah
Well of course, there was no budget for that
@@genericuser8348 You can get that sound with compression and a relatively affordable bass amp.
Chi had a simple rig, fender HP/P bass with a sans amp and compressor
I think you should add deftones to the "by busting the bank" list
vicente zapata yes I agree ☝️
that would be awesome
vicente zapata this must be done!
Well, ESP-signature and Axe-Fx. Done. :D
Ed Sheeran is trash
"Change" sounds like you soloed the guitar track on the actual recording.
2:40 "this is a 9 string, so this is one more string than carpenter would use", that comment aged like a fine wine...
What do you mean? Stephen didn't use any 9 string yet...
@@mechamind9569 check out drew foppe's (guitar tech for deftones) instagram, he has a 9
@@Dazertron shit fr? any evidence?
@@TheTeaTVI he also used it on Ohms, you should check out "The Spell of Mathematics"
@@TheTeaTVI the song the spell of mathematics has an open 9 string hit in it, that's the only time I know that he's used the 9 string
Tough to do when Stefen drops a half step in tuning with each subsequent album, I think he said "fuck it I'm gonna play a bass on the next record" after diamond eyes.
And now he has a 9-string
@@northtimo666 at this rate, he'll probably be playing a down-tuned custom sitar by the second album after "Ohms".
Justin Blair i am glad that he didn’t overdo it on Ohms. Plenty of songs that could be played on a 7-string standard tuning?
@@northtimo666 probably, but there'd likely be a lot of tweaking in the amp. Going up to a heavier gauge of strings might help, as well.
Well, "pins and needles" is played on two basses.
We definitely need a BY busting the bank episode for this band.
This really makes me hear how much Abe's drumming is a huge part of shaping the sound in Deftones... Without the drums it sounds way different. He also really does creative parts with what the other instruments play.
The reason Deftones are still as huge as they've ever been is that Chino's vocals are actually pleasing to the ear, unlike all the other nu metal crud. His dynamics against Stephen banging rhythmically away at his guitar and the tasteful drumming and bass holding it all together is a timeless combination. That and they never seem to phone it in on anything they do, honestly.
nu metal ain't crud
@@denisn8336 Deftones ain't nu metal either.
@@prescottmajette5290 there a varient of it
Where? And seriously, just no, they're not.
@@prescottmajette5290 there first album
White Pony. Literally in the top 10 best albums ever created by man.
Pro 4X lmao
@@bmark7951 What's so funny, bitch?
@@bmark7951 go listen to Taylor Swift, pussy
I prefer Koi No Yokan
Saturday Night Wrist is honestly my favorite from them
The blue Strat with Tele neck in heavy relic is ABSOLUTLY GORGEOUS
Sounds like kyuss
That would be too great to be true. Not that hard imo tho
Please God yes!
Any ol' amp head, bass cab and a fat joint prior to recording....I don't actually care for weed myself but it's mandatory for that sound.
They did a Josh Homme video but focused on QOTSA
For the bassist in the room, Sound like Motorhead without breaking the bank.
just plug your bass in a guitar amp
Can we all take a moment to admire Matt's bass tone at 9:09? That's some sexy sounding bass there.
As a bass player, YES
That's the highlight right there.
Is that a Darkglass amp?
Sad part is a good amount of people don't know that it's relatively easy and cheap to get a bass to sound like this
It was killer, yeah, Chi was a great bassist and really doesn’t get as much love as he should imo
Well since nobody seems to comment on how you guys did....I think you did a good job, goes to show you don't need a tube amp and effects pedals for everything. Love this band!
Mastodon by busting the bank!!!!
Adam Gaposchkin great idea
I'd love to see an Opeth episode, mainly pre-Heritage.
Adam Gaposchkin easy orange micro dark and boss ds1
boss settings
tone-1 o'clock
level-5 o'clock
gain- 4 o'clock
orange settings
shape - 1oclock
gain- 2 o'clock
Adam Gaposchkin hey nice profile pic
Nathan T I use that amp and the ds1 I can attest to the accuracy
"It's the wrong shape" So we're back to looks like?
and this IS sounds like not looks like
7 string? ✔️
EMG's ✔️
Shape? ❌
Scott Edwards Hotel? Trivago
Steven Chabot I think that was shorthand for saying that the guitar's construction was too different.
Yeah, this bugged me that Bea just turned it down out of hand, especially because they got in such a fuss about spending too much on the guitar they got but the LP style EC-407 B 7 string they turned down is £100 cheaper! Yes, the differences in woods and construction might make some difference but not that much! They're both 27" scale length 7 strings with EMGs and Tune-o-Matic style bridges. Close enough, I'd say and an extra £100 might have bought them a real amp. The Amplifire sounded pretty good but I wouldn't want to play a pub or club gig with one without at least a power amp to run it through as you're putting yourself at the mercy of the state of the venue's often inadequate monitors.
I like the idea of using modeling for the challenge. Maybe do a challenge where one of you picks out a real amp/pedal rig and the other uses digital modeling to see who gets closer?
I know Rabea is super comfortable with IRs so that sounds like an awesome idea
i find the lack of engine #9 disturbing
Adrenaline was recorded with an ADA MP-1 preamp (with the power section of a JCM900). The settings were a little fizzy for that album.
I had an ADA MP-1 when they were still $150 ($600 on Reverb now) - I did a 3-tube modification on it so it had a triple rectifier-like board and it was a massive sound when paired with a Peavy Classic 60/60 power amp. Unique too, I recommend it for someone looking for their very own angry tone.
Around the Fur he used a combination of the MP-1 and the JMP-1, which is just a Marshall preamp with MIDI controlled settings like the ADA MP-1. Anyway, that's the end of my preamp story, goodbye.
Joel Bennett I loved the way guitars on Adrenaline sounded!! Crunchy af 🤘🤘
@@jrock8233 I actually tried my very best to replicate his tone from Adrenaline with a pedal haha. The digitech Grunge distortion. Its about as close as tone gets without busting the bank on preamp and amp sims
Wow! When you played that Change intro I thought it was the real track... and some playback! You just nailed it!
For all the people saying Rory Gallagher:
-Squier Classic Vibe 60's Stratocaster
-Vox AC15
-Ibanez TS9
-A capo and a slide if you're feeling cheeky
Anything else would probably be extraneous, as Rory's rig was actually pretty spartan compared to most of his contemporaries. Though from the mid to late 80's up to his death he did use a Boss multi-effects rig.
And that's pretty much it.
Well that completely negated my need to see an episode, as I'm sure it did for everyone else. How about you just write one of those for all the artists and then we don't have to bother with any of these videos at all.
You need a treble booster for Rory.
Deftones fucking rock
This is amazing! I'm a massive Deftones fan, I thought it was really well done and amazing out of the box thinking to get the tone. I'm amazed that you can cover around the fur right up to Diamond Eyes with this setup (and probably Gore and everything in between). It's sad that Deftones are so far removed from other sounds that I like, I'd love to play some songs like them but I'd need a whole separate rig just to sound like them occasionally. Still, that pedal seems really cool, completely out of my price range but maybe one day!
you guys always do a great job. this turned out perfectly. this is quickly becoming my favorite channel, and "sounds like" is definitely my favorite segment.
How to sound like The Dillinger Escape Plan!
Would be really interesting because of the jazz parts.
Ben's rig is rather simple to understand, so it's not too rough to get down. An MH or normal Horizon with EMGs is a good start, then for amps, seeing as he uses Mesa, I'd say probably go for something with an American tone, so perhaps a 6505 combo. For Pedals, either a Crybaby Wah or a Morley Bad Horsie will work with that, a Swollen Pickle for distortion, and a strobe pedal, if there's any money leftover, then you go and grab a compressor.
Fr3akymet4l yes, my buddy Jeff played with them for a while.
He's known for using Mark series and 6505 don't sound nothing, and I mean, nothing like the tone of a boogie Mark
Deftones deserve to be in a genre on their own
Dude SMASHING PUMPKINS
but I am excited about Deftones
In Bloom yesssssss!!!!!!!!!! DO IT!!!!!
Elias Magnusson boss ds1, a fender amp, and pretty much any fender guitar. i can get any nirvana tone with those pieces of gear
killerspyder1 lol u know the guys name is in bloom
Screw the guitar tone, I want that BASS tone!
Amazing job guys. Im a hard core Deftones fan and i think this is amazing. This was very cool to watch.
You forgot to save some cash for a bag of NorCal greenery. Key part of Steph’s sound.
Sound Like Gary Clark Jr? Really appreciating the videos guys, great job as always!
Need to do a Kyuss vid. Cheers
there are like tons of schecter 7 strings with emgs cheaper than this guitar
akash gupta i dont know if they stock schecter that much
Sam Depetrillo they do. It’s a crazy popular guitar
Like which guitars?
Bold move to go digital for the amp. Nice to see for a change, especially as it is more relevant to bedroom guitarists (let.s be honest: 80-90% of people watching this) than a massive Marshall or what-not.
You guys did a great job on this one. This is the type of vid I like to see - you guys got creative to make the sounds that you wouldn't have been able to do with normal gear on budget. Very cool and interesting, this vid. Thanks for the fun video!
Sound like Gojiraaaaaaa
Jackson/Charvel with SD-SH4 + 5150III....done
EVH + guitars with JBs in the Bridge + whammy pedal. Done.
The Electrocist this is not the real Gojira.
+100!!!
Since L' enfant sauvage in 2012 ;)
cool video as always. but now that Matt Pike put out a 'signature' pedal, maybe this is the sign to do a 'sound like Sleep'
First two albums were on 6 strings in E standard and D flat. Would’ve been less of a headache to have copied that sound 😂🤷♂️ but you did do a blinding job with this 👍
I asked for you guys to do em and you did :D The gear selection was cool too. Cheers!
i must say, this is one of the best sounding sounds like ive watched! top stuff laddos!
Crazy hair guy has lost a ton of weight. You look great dude!
Great job! The "Change" clean riff was pretty much spot on. I think it was a good move to go with the 7 string because then you could do all record pre Diamond Eyes and to be fair, I don't think his tone has changed all that much since then except the added 8 string for extra Meshuggah-ness. The baritone model might have helped you now for the DE era stuff, I felt it was a little weak, maybe because of the low tuning, maybe a little floppier and less punchy than the original. (My Own Summer was on point though!)
Sound good though! I would have liked to hear some more stuff from White Pony and Saturday Night Wrist but, what can you do :)
Next WBTB I would like to hear The Smashing Pumpkins!
Peace
wow you nailed change in the house of the flies. Bea its not just tone. You translate the emotion of the player very well. I can see you go somewhere when you play. And the bass line matt also seems to go there too. Great stuff dudes. If I ever visit your side of the pond I have to meet you two gents. Cheers
Sounds great guys. I have been a diehard Deftones fan since the early 90’s. I have been to a show for every album except the latest one. The only thing you probably could have done to make it more accurate would be a splash of Chorus and some Delay. The amp sounds are close. He doesn’t even use his tube amps anymore though. He goes straight from Axe Effects to PA now. This was definitely a solid low cost approach to getting his sound. Agree on someone’s Schecter comment. Lots of 7-string Schechter’s with EMG pickups. I am a fan. I have two Schecter 6-strings. One with EMGs.
I think you guys nailed this one. Tone sounded pretty damn spot on. Well done!
You find a 7 string with emg's at a decent price but "its not the right shape." You guys REALLY need to remember this is Sounds Like, not Looks Like. Why does it matter if its a Les Paul shape? And sadly this happens alot in this series. Either being determined on a color, shape, etc. You really need to re-evaluate how you approach this series.
Tiny Star not really. We decided that the in store segment would have been way too short if we just picked the LP shape up.
We ALWAYS say, "this is sounds like not looks like" I don't think we've ever not chosen the right guitar because of its shape other than this video, and that's because We knew we would find the right guitar.
It's not happened a lot if at all before, so not sure why you've said that. In any case, we decided to prolong the search, sorry if it stopped you enjoying the episode
Rabea Massaad if I'm right the LP didn't have a baritone scale so regardless of shape it didn't fit what you were after?
Yeah but surely you do this series to "sound like" and not "make the store segment long enough"? And you could put the part where you found the guitar you ended up using before, if lenght was the issue. On the other hand, it's nice you chose a different "amp" for a change. Can you please write here the exact signal chain?
Tiny Star LPs don't sound like the dinky shape at all
Guitar body shape has a DRASTIC effect on overall tone, in case you didn't know that. Telecasters have a more resonant, rich tone than Les pauls despite being not very different from each other. Strats have brighter tone and have less low end than those other two because of the additional cutout. Explorers have really good sustain because the body is very large. Guitar shape has a larger effect on tone than even pickups and string intonation.
You will never truly sound like a specific artist until you use the same guitar as them. You can't sound like Tool without a Les Paul, you can't sound like John 5 without a telecaster, and you can't sound like system of a down without an Iceman. no matter what kind of amp, pickups, or strings you use
that bass tone is awesome
I've scrolled through half of the 1500 comments so far and NOBODY has a comment of how they sounded? I don't know The Deftones so I don't have an opinion. I was glad that the budget forced them off their tube amp island for once. It seems like a Marshall Code 100 2x12 would have done the job just fine.
Please do Peter Frampton or Lenny Kravitz
Clayton Duguay in my opinion, close but no cigar. They didn't do the research in my opinion, which is odd for them. He is using 8 Strings now, not tuning down a 7 to F#. The tone is close but they could've gotten closer with a Schecter omen 8, and something like a Zoom or a Line 6 HD500. 6/10 I would think.
Clayton Duguay what you don't know the deftones start with the white pony album
Around The Fur is the definite starting point for the Deftones...
Deftones, people. Not THE Deftones.
It's not odd, it's that they are human. Also remember WHY this video exists. This series is NOT about helping people achieve that tone (that would be an extremely different looking series and one which I wish someone would do) but instead it's to showcase gear for Andertons so people will want to buy it. Honestly they TRIED to say it but should have just been straight up and done 3 guitars (6, 7, and 8) and gave options because the Deftones have grown their sound so much and have specific eras of their music that you really need something that can do that. You can't get low enough with a 6 (possibly if it's a baritone) for anything from the self titled album and beyond and with either a 7 or 8... well... good luck playing the thrash of Adrenaline, the groove of Around the Fur, or the melding of the two in White Pony... it's too hard which is why Steph switches out guitars. Oh and if you watch interviews with Steph about White Pony then you will know yes he used a 7 on that however he used two high e strings (basically like Wes Borland) at the time. It wasn't until the self titled that he dropped low enough to NEED it.
Would love to see an updated video. Given how far tech has come in 7 years
Amazing just amazing. You guys did a really good job, very professional.
I’d love a BY Busting, where you recreate Chino’s tones as well
Sounds like Dinosaur Jr. please.
seconded!
JM-old Marshall-a dumptruck full of Big Muffs!
This would be great! Although have you seen how many pedals he uses? I guess you could get away with a tubescreamer and a big muff a squire jazzmaster and a small marshall or something. Probably need some other tones in there though, he uses some really wierd effects I think!
Please do a My Bloody Valentine episode!
Why can i only like this once...
ZAPPED916 dude, they will never do that!
But they should.
basically just buy every single pedal you can and then turn them all on at once
Florence Michael HA!
The tone for the change in the house of flies intro that you played was flawless
I see everyone shouting the name of their favourite band in the comments, but no one saying how good it was !
Great job, and I think it's completely legit to have digital modelling pedal to emulate an Axe-FX. Looking forward to the next !
Sound like Jonny Greenwood of Radiohead, all hail to Jonnys hair.
Jonny uses a telecaster with a built in Killswitch button so they could get a Squier tele deluxe or a vintage modified but if the Killswitch isn't a big deal then a Modern Player tele would sort you out! for this i'll go with the killswitch, he uses Vox for cleans and Fender for the Higher gain stuff, so Bassbreaker 15 combo would be a shout, fx is a toughie cos he uses a lot, but i'll say Pro Co Rat to replicate his Marshall Shredmaster, Phaser and Envelope filter for Paranoid Android's 2nd solo (if rabea is daring enough to play it!) and i know he uses a whammy in live versions so get that!
Fender Squier Telecaster Deluxe - £355
Fender Bass Breaker 15 - £517
Pro Co RAT Solo - £176
EHX Nano Small Stone Phaser - £61
Dod 440 Reissue Envelope Filter - £90
Digitech Whammy V - £170
TC Electronic Hall of Fame Mini - £85
Grand Total - £1454
William Allison Woah, that's pretty good!! But there is one really necessary thing, an echo pedal, the Boss RE20 is the one the uses live, it's required to play almost every song by Radiohead.
in that case he could get a cheaper RAT and a Boss DD-3 or something like that.
Even though Gojira's rig is pretty simple, A "Sound Like" would be great because i'm sure there's always something to learn ('and hearing gojira is ALWAYS a pleasure) !
sounds like RUSH and Deep Purple
ADRIAN BROWN MUSIC that'd be ridiculous to figure out. Even figuring out 1 album tone would be crazy
I've seen Plini tour with an amplifire straight into the PA and it sounded great. Good call on using it for this video.
My first time seeing this and you guys totally nailed the sound. Job well done!
Eric Johnson - The guy who wrote the legendary song Cliffs of Dover
and Zap
Either
Sounds Like CKY
or
Sounds Like Clutch
would be amazing!
Sound like Sonic Youth
Chris Andreou Dude they'll never do that. That's WAY TOO HARD!!!!
Chris Andreou that would be nearly impossible cause they used millions of guitars and millions of tunings they collected guitars and stuff
Lukas Lechner and they won't even take the time to learn how to play a Smiths riff correctly, let alone tune guitars over and over again for just one song.
after Deftones I'm not sure whether you were watching. There were loads of different tunings. Also they learn the songs by ear. Of course they will make mistakes. Some of the comments astound me.
Stephen Owen Well Sonic Youth tunings are a LOT HARDER to achieve than Deftones Tunings. And literally, when you decide to sound like a band as culturally and musically important as The Smiths, you better Damn well get it right or be Ripped apart in the comments
Absolutely nailed this one, great bass tone too!
I am begging on my hands and knees for you guys to bust the bank on this please.
Sound like Nine Inch Nails.
i love nin but they wouldn’t be good for this show. most of their music is keyboard based, but these guys focus mostly on guitars and basses
St. Vincent!
a Female sound like for once maybe?
Not just a female, they seem to shy away from the over the top fuzz tones in general, which is what I have the most interest in.
The10000lbGorilla rival sons!! yes!!
The10000lbGorilla - If they did Josh Homme then they can do St. Vincent.
Sound like Opeth!!!!!!
One of the most interesting "sounds like" to date.
Do show us the occasional "bedroom rig" like this, direct output/cab emulation and all. For a moment I thought you were about to bust out a Zoom G5n + a cheap digital amp, so I was pleasantly surprised with this one!
Thanks so much for doing this one! Been waiting so long to see it attempted, and I think it's far to say you got damn close, awesome job.
Do think you missed a trick not doing a rig for Chino, given he now plays live on about 50% of their songs during live shows. Would have given you the opportunity to play some of their more layered/sonically diverse songs (Sextape, Beauty School, Entombed, Hearts/Wires etc), but that probably would have taken an age to set-up!
I'm knit-picking, brilliant video.
Sound like Cancer Bats or Alexisonfire (large up Canada)!
Hello I know you guys don't really do bass players but I'm wondering if you guys could do a jaco pastorius video for the bass players out there
These guys think the Deftones are worth emulating. It's unlikely in the extreme that they even have a clue who Jaco Pastorius was.... MUCH less being able to cover his playing.
sounds like PERIPHERY!!!!!!
MelodicalHeadbanger yes
yesssss
I'm telling you from personal experience with budgeting and such, this is fucking impossible.
I'm currently going through that process too, the horizon pedal would be a god send for the video if they actually end up doing it
MelodicalHeadbanger yes someone wants to besides me finally!!!
You should do sounds like ler from primus!
Les (bass rig) and ler (guitar) rigs would be epic!
xXBantamCatXx yesss!!
oh jesus someone having to play Les haha. Any whamolas in stock? Recently got into Primus and they are just awesome, if beyond insane.
les is the bassist dude, i said LER, as in larry, the guitarist
right but doing both would be cool. They could get Dave in to do Les' parts.
I think it would be useful not just knowing the gear to buy (which is ok, since this is a guitar shop channel), but also showing the settings of amp + fx to get a similar sound. Good job
I have been studying Steph's tone for a couple years now and even bought his signature 7 with an AxeFx 3. No, I'm not made of money and it took me being married and saving for 10 months to get one, but Steph's tone is so freaking difficult to get when you take your time and try to replicate it. It is not easy at all. The fact you guys did it in a day or two deserves props cause it is pretty close. I'd say you're 80% there and thats a grade B. When you just come across trying to make his tone, you're going to have a hard time. Steph is one of those guys that obsesses over his tone. Don't believe me? Go look for every video featuring his gear. He's got bias FX, AxeFx, guitar rig, all sorts of stomp boxes, power amps, cabinets, cabinets that are mic'd. He has spent alot of time on his sound! I hope I can meet him one day just to chill.
Sound like Brian setzer please...
danny posthardcore Hell yeah! That would be fun.
I would love to see a sounds like korn without busting the bank!
Sound like ritchie blackmore
which era? Deep Purple or Rainbow
William Allison both!!
William Allison Rainbow is the best band of all Time so... RAINBOW
I'm a HUGE Deftones fan, and you guys did ti! You nailed it!
At 6:25 in the background, the white Fender Jaguar with the red pearl pick guard looks amazing and must sound awesome with dual hum buckers. :)
Cheap solution to the amp problem = Orange Micro Dark. It's sooo cheap but sounds so good >.
Sound like Architects, Periphery, killswitch engage, animals as leaders, lamb of god.
You guys should do a Sound Like Karnivool :)
and definetly need an octave pedal. like ehx pog.
you said the gera well but we need something cheaper ya know?
X-Games I'VE BEEN COMMENTING THIS THE LAST FEW VIDEO, I SUPPORT THIS AND BEA IS A HUGE FAN LET'S GO
Wall OfNoise sure , it's the closest sounding to their prs , rabea for sure will.go with a se or with a JB seymour guitar
OMG YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Excellent job guys, Killer sound you got. I love those LTDs
I find these videos interesting and I can sometimes tell when something is double tracked after listening and if you can't get a tone super matched if you want to, than I recommend experimenting with double tracking if you want to do a cover because some distortion stuff on some albums was mixed with double (with stuff played almost the same, but not exact on each guitar track). There has been even more tracks made for some riffs sometimes. Sometimes double tracking could sound like a chorus effect thing, but still double tracking sometimes gives a more accurate sound for tone matching.
sounds like karnivool !!
Sound like Alexi Laiho from Children Of Bodom!!!
the question is will they afford Alexi's ESP on the budget?
William Allison Hard to say cause the guitars that are close to what alexi uses are pretty expensive. And thats reason I'd like to see them make the video cause its pretty tricky to get the sound that alexu has :)
He has signature LTD's...
Atif Azim yeah but they cost like 1k pounds and imo they are pretty expensive :D
Alexi is using very small gear. Watch his rig rundown videos. You just need a guitar with only neck pickup. LTD is a cheap choice for this. And that pick up must be a EMG with Pull/Push boost. Or basically you can add a boost pedal. A wah pedal for some solos, he uses kirk hammet sig but every wah would work. Boss dd-7 for delay. And an affordable Marshall type amp. Same tone guranteed.
PLEASE do Ghost BC that would be amazing.
Ghost is alright. I feel like their keyboard player made their sound.
I second that. I think it would be real cool!
I third this.
It's just Ghost
No BC anymore
Amazing \m/. That sounds immense. I reckon Sounds like Toska with both guitar and bass would be interesting.
I have a Gibson-scale 7-string (yes, you read that right) tuned down drop E. Yes, a full octave. Basically a dropped 8 string tuning with the highest string left off, and extra extra think strings. It's a beast but it works.
Sound like Steve Vai, Mr. Big, Van Halen, Nuno Bettencourt, Korn, etc...
or Racer X if you're doing Paul Gilbert
yeah Juan Alderete sounds like. Actually talking of that what about Mars Volta? probably impossible.
Easy - get a made in indonesia Jem, vai actually goes through quite affordable amps, the legacy carvins, best bang for your buck is to get em both second hand.
ok for Steve Vai this is my analysis, He has two different signature Ibanez guitars, the JEM and the Universe, the Universe is a 7 string but it's way too much money and you can actually get a cheaper version of the JEM so we'll get that, if there is none then an RG350 would work, for amps he uses Carvin Legacy which they don't have so egnater tweaker and he also uses a crap ton of FX so i've picked a few
Ibanez JEM JR - £420
Egnater Tweaker 15 - £430
Boss DS1 - £40
Dunlop Cry Baby Wah - £90
Boss CH1 - £80
Digitech Whammy DT - £210
TC Electronic Hall Of Fame Mini Reverb - £85
Boss DD7 Delay - £135
racking in at an immense - £1490
Sounds like... Type O Negative?
R. Ramos I'd love to hear that, too.
Hope there's more demand for it...
Deftones have a lot in common with Type O musically
Yes! A nice "velvety” heaviness!
Sounds like dorje without chapman guitars.
^ This
Awesome tone.
For the modeler, i think i would have used the Line 6 HX Stomp, but the Amplify did an awesome job
finally! what a video! well done guys!
sounds like Electric wizard Please
Epiphone SG and boss hyper fuzz
Primus
Weezer
Rush
Opeth
Deep Purple
NEXT!
guiat doesn't sound great, but damn that's a nice bass tone!
Exactly what I was thinking... I don't play bass but it made me click the link... 1099 pounds though
They need to do Sounds Like for Bass. Missing out on a huge audience there
I kinda thought the opposite. Interesting.
Oh. Then I watched more of the video and agree lol. Change wasnt bad at all, but after that...yea.
you're wrong, the guitar sounded great, bass wasn't that good cos it was hard to hear
I've waited so long for this!!
The tone for Change (In the House of Flies) was spot on. Everything else was close. You did better than I thought because that's a hard tone. For his White Pony tone I got it with affordable gear. Sadly hardly any of it is made anymore. I use a Marshall 9100 for dirt and a Orange Crush 20RT for cleans. I use an old Ibanez RG HH hardtail with EMG's with 12-56 strings tuned to drop C. I also use a few pedals. I only play anything off of White Pony.