Quad cortex and a decent 8 string. That’s it. All you need. If you’re just playing at home then archetype Gojira would be fine instead of the quad cortex
They’re not. The members of sleep token are as follows: Leo Faulkner Adam Pedder Dave Ball Rhys Griffiths Leo Faulkner writes almost completely all of the music and is the producer, as you can find on the studio/label info. Think of him as a Trent Reznor, extremely talented.
Did not expect Sleep Token but they definitely have a cool sound, I don’t listen to them much but from what I do know I think you guys got really damn close. Also I’ve been suggesting these guys since Matt and Rabea did this show but I would love to see a Sound Like video on Ghost since they also have a lot of great tones as well
@@mikedamisch It'd definitely be interesting to see what they'd end up doing with it guitar-wise, like they could either go for an SG for some of their earlier tones or HSS Strat for the modern/Impera tones (I also know that they also use that Hagstrom Phantomen guitar that looks like a Gibson RD, which they also used) but even though Ghost is a two guitar band I also think a bass rig should be included since that's also a key part to their sound (Plus songs like From the Pinnacle to the Pit and Con Clavi Con Dio have some of the most badass bass intros ever lol)
It’s so many layers. Tobias has done videos and interviews about the multiple amps and guitars that get blended for their songs. Copping that tone would be tough.
I mostly listen to 60s-80s rock and blues so I don't recognize the band, but I'm pumped to see a new "Sounds Like"!! Please keep them coming!! Can we have a Sounds like Santana BY busting the bank?? Maybe with Santana on the episode??
@@athmaidYup that’s it and Plini plugin is what they used for most of rhythm tones on the I let it in. Or Squier jazzmaster baritone or whatever VI baritone like Subzero.
Bass sounded really good. The guitar rig would've needed a bigger budget to sound right or maybe more time to set up the patches. Love me some Sleep Token 🤘
The only thing I noticed that you got wrong was III on bass, You chose a great bass for it, However.. He tunes his B to Ab or A#. But for 4 string basslines, he uses C# or B# standard.
You could probably get away with any dual humbucker Epiphone, and an orange micro dark for Matts base tone. Throw in a Green Russian Fuzz and you’re basically there. For Al I have no idea what a cheap equivalent to a Rickenbacker would be as I’m not a bassist, but I know “Does It Doom” has a pedal for his sound called Giza.
as an owner of a valetone gp 200 i would love to have the path you guys used for the guitar and also for synester gates guitar tone in the avenged sevenfold video
Last time I was in the shop about 6 months ago I was chatting to one of your assistants about Sleep Token and he'd never heard of them. Little fella from London with glasses. Tell him hes welcome!!!!
I remember suggesting a Brian Setzer/Stray Cats video back when Matt and Rabea were still running the show, but I do agree that a rockabilly/surf rock video could be really cool to see
only thing i do not like abou the ibanez is I cannot replace the pickup in the future if i wanted to because they routed and made the pick up at like a 75 degree angle. sick guitar thoo only I have the 7 string version. p.s. its not an iron label its from the standard rg line
we NEEEED details on the patches that Ben is using on that GP-200, i got one and i really want to recreate that specific sound. if anyone knows where to find it if they already posted that please let me know!
Think this could've been a good opportunity to grab an 8 string and the Gretsch Baritone IV was using before the Jackson customs to compare sounds and see what's most suited for people.
Wait so John just ups the budget by £500 and Ben has to stick with the GP200? He should have gone and got a Helix LT. Also that Craig Reynolds nap voucher reference was class 🤟🏻
@@caspay21 oh I'm glad you replied. I ordered the Valeton GP200 last week and it should be here tomorrow. So, now I'll ask you where to find some good IR packs? Bonus points if they are free but still good. I don't mind buying some either but Id like to dip my toes in with maybe a free pack
It seems for many it wasn't about having more strings and therefore notes, it was more about the scale length that came with these guitars. Now with modelers being better at pitch shifting than the old Digitech pedals and 28+ inch baritone guitars being widely available, the demand seems to have dropped
i feel like we have left the age of boss katana on every rig, and we have entered the era of the gp 200 for budget rig builds. I'm totally here for it. I havent tried out any of the multi fx/ amp modeling options we have now-a-days, but ive been eyeballing the valeton as a starting point. Does anyone know of anything better? Is it really a huge difference between the gp200 and something like the HX stomp? I kind of like the layout on the valeton but like i said i havent tried any of these options we have now a day
First off, not music related, John has a pleasant British accent and Ben's has much more twang. What regions do they represent, if any? As an American it's like a deep south or heavy NY accent vs a less regional accent. Just curious. Anyway, I appreciate a heavier Sounds Like. What about Karnivool, Vildjharta, or their take on something like Corrosion of Conformity, Kyuss, or Clutch? I enjoy all of the output from this channel while I drink beer and get ready for the next day.
They had to find the lowest ceiling in the store to make these gents looks super tall lol (and yes, I realize it's the digital section of the store lol)
Good Me says - Tough gig for anyone to do , Great effort , Well done.👏😊 Evil me says - Digitise John and send Ben off to do a Andertons Punch n Judy segment with Oz,💣 Bring back Dave and Cici.🙏 Rational me says - Shut up and enjoy it , They are all far more talented than I am.🤔😭 I'll let myself out....😞
If a band has a $2500 budget between the guitarist and bassist they should just get a quad cortex and they can both run through it, plus it has room for two others if they want. Upgrade instruments after the fact if you even find it necessary anymore
I was gonna say: get a Harley Benton JA baritone, change the tuners and change the strings and drop tune it, and then figure out the amp and tone settings. 😂
They've been gone for a couple years at this point. Rabea is off doing his own thing with his band and Matt is still just running stuff behind the scenes.
2000 USD is about 1500 GBP give or take once converted, so that is around what budget they’re using anyways. 1500 pounds over here is quite a bit of money, certainly not seen as budget in this current living crisis 😭
As other mentioned , the bass amp head is overkill if you go direct through DI, a Darkglass Ultra would have been enough. The cash saved could maybe have been invested in a compressor!
Now we need a sounds like Sleep Token by busting the bank.
Well, that’s how this thing works isn’t it
@@caprise-music6722 I have seen it to where they only do the one video on a band but never make it to the second for whatever reason.
@@caprise-music6722There used to be a without and by busting the bank back in the day
Quad Cortex and the gretsch Baritone and another 8 string is what they use live 😆
Quad cortex and a decent 8 string. That’s it. All you need. If you’re just playing at home then archetype Gojira would be fine instead of the quad cortex
Babe wake up, new Sleep Token lore just dropped
Nap Voucher is a criminal patch name 😭
It's a Craig Reynolds joke.
Ayeee was waiting to see if someone picked up on it 👊@@djentsnotdead
I call em Snooze Ticket😂
What if these guys (Ben and John) are really from Sleep Token and they are playing with us?
*laughs anonymously*
they are...
surely it's just a coincidence that "ben" has 3 letters and "john" has 4...
LOL
They’re not. The members of sleep token are as follows:
Leo Faulkner
Adam Pedder
Dave Ball
Rhys Griffiths
Leo Faulkner writes almost completely all of the music and is the producer, as you can find on the studio/label info. Think of him as a Trent Reznor, extremely talented.
If you're going DI out, a darkglass pedal would be cheaper. Even the fancier lines like the alpha omega photon.
i think the 1500 budget is solid.
Did not expect Sleep Token but they definitely have a cool sound, I don’t listen to them much but from what I do know I think you guys got really damn close. Also I’ve been suggesting these guys since Matt and Rabea did this show but I would love to see a Sound Like video on Ghost since they also have a lot of great tones as well
We need Ghost!
@@mikedamisch It'd definitely be interesting to see what they'd end up doing with it guitar-wise, like they could either go for an SG for some of their earlier tones or HSS Strat for the modern/Impera tones (I also know that they also use that Hagstrom Phantomen guitar that looks like a Gibson RD, which they also used) but even though Ghost is a two guitar band I also think a bass rig should be included since that's also a key part to their sound (Plus songs like From the Pinnacle to the Pit and Con Clavi Con Dio have some of the most badass bass intros ever lol)
@@andrewpappas9311 for sure. I have a colleague who has the Hagström signature. Actually liked it when I tried it.
It’s so many layers. Tobias has done videos and interviews about the multiple amps and guitars that get blended for their songs. Copping that tone would be tough.
@@jburdsinfuse even more interesting. Live tone would also be an option.
I mostly listen to 60s-80s rock and blues so I don't recognize the band, but I'm pumped to see a new "Sounds Like"!! Please keep them coming!! Can we have a Sounds like Santana BY busting the bank?? Maybe with Santana on the episode??
That Hypnosis tone is incredible!
Better do loathe next!
Gretsch baritone, crank mids, done
@@athmaidYup that’s it and Plini plugin is what they used for most of rhythm tones on the I let it in. Or Squier jazzmaster baritone or whatever VI baritone like Subzero.
@@northtimo666 they did some presets for Archetype Gojira as well
@@athmaid Yes, for the album they used Plini mostly.
I don’t get the love behind Loathe. They just didn’t do anything unique to me.🤷♂️
I think each of you working with a different budget was a cool idea
That 8 string sounds very filthy , love it 🤘
Bass sounded really good. The guitar rig would've needed a bigger budget to sound right or maybe more time to set up the patches. Love me some Sleep Token 🤘
Gretsch electromatic baritone. 550 US, and is just a lovely guitar. Also what IV used a lot.
The only thing I noticed that you got wrong was III on bass, You chose a great bass for it, However.. He tunes his B to Ab or A#. But for 4 string basslines, he uses C# or B# standard.
There's no "wrong" there at all.
Forgot to mention, he doesn't use C# standard, he tunes C# F# B E. III DOES use B# standard though.
This is what I’m talking about 👏🏼
Y'all need to do this again but with a drummer
Agreed
Waiting for that Sleep Token 30” baritone 6 string when’s it coming out???
Holy shit modern metal on Anderton’s? How lucky am I today!?
Now do how to sound like Sleep without breaking the bank
Any 8 string and Archetype Gojira x
@@Naytexosleep the doom band they tune to c standard no 8 string or plug in
@@Naytexoit wont sound good. Archetype gojira isnt made for djenty tones, might aswell go with an 8 string and the fortin nameless suite
You could probably get away with any dual humbucker Epiphone, and an orange micro dark for Matts base tone. Throw in a Green Russian Fuzz and you’re basically there. For Al I have no idea what a cheap equivalent to a Rickenbacker would be as I’m not a bassist, but I know “Does It Doom” has a pedal for his sound called Giza.
They did this a few years ago, but it's under Sounds Like Matt Pike.
Think the guitar could’ve benefited with an hx stomp and a 1500 budget over the valeton
Just recently bought an 8 string FOR this reason, and I was surprised at how easy I found it to play.
nice job boys, enjoyed the vid.
as an owner of a valetone gp 200 i would love to have the path you guys used for the guitar and also for synester gates guitar tone in the avenged sevenfold video
Last time I was in the shop about 6 months ago I was chatting to one of your assistants about Sleep Token and he'd never heard of them. Little fella from London with glasses. Tell him hes welcome!!!!
We need a Brian Setzer and Dick Dale sound like video
I remember suggesting a Brian Setzer/Stray Cats video back when Matt and Rabea were still running the show, but I do agree that a rockabilly/surf rock video could be really cool to see
Could you guys do Halestorm? Lizzy Hale is now an ambassador of Gibson! Ive been scouring for a budget build and am completely confused. Thank you!!
I love me some Sleep Token!
Nice, I hecking love Sleep Token
only thing i do not like abou the ibanez is I cannot replace the pickup in the future if i wanted to because they routed and made the pick up at like a 75 degree angle. sick guitar thoo only I have the 7 string version. p.s. its not an iron label its from the standard rg line
we NEEEED details on the patches that Ben is using on that GP-200, i got one and i really want to recreate that specific sound. if anyone knows where to find it if they already posted that please let me know!
Think this could've been a good opportunity to grab an 8 string and the Gretsch Baritone IV was using before the Jackson customs to compare sounds and see what's most suited for people.
Wait so John just ups the budget by £500 and Ben has to stick with the GP200? He should have gone and got a Helix LT. Also that Craig Reynolds nap voucher reference was class 🤟🏻
ive been getting very intrigued by the gp 200 recently, Do you really see the cheaper end of line 6 multi fx stuff as better overall than the valeton?
@@caspay21 oh I'm glad you replied. I ordered the Valeton GP200 last week and it should be here tomorrow. So, now I'll ask you where to find some good IR packs? Bonus points if they are free but still good. I don't mind buying some either but Id like to dip my toes in with maybe a free pack
I don't think you are going to get roasted Ben, most of us can't play those things either.
I used to see 8 and 9 string Schecter and Ibanez on the walls all the time, maybe ten years ago... Are they just too expensive to make now?
It seems for many it wasn't about having more strings and therefore notes, it was more about the scale length that came with these guitars. Now with modelers being better at pitch shifting than the old Digitech pedals and 28+ inch baritone guitars being widely available, the demand seems to have dropped
Y’all need to do a busting the bank on any band
Love this, not all Anderson fans are classic rock and blues fans!!!
Nice video guys!
i feel like we have left the age of boss katana on every rig, and we have entered the era of the gp 200 for budget rig builds. I'm totally here for it. I havent tried out any of the multi fx/ amp modeling options we have now-a-days, but ive been eyeballing the valeton as a starting point. Does anyone know of anything better? Is it really a huge difference between the gp200 and something like the HX stomp? I kind of like the layout on the valeton but like i said i havent tried any of these options we have now a day
I need the patches
really dig these guys. need them to do The Beatles, slipknot, korn, GnR etc etc
Thanks so much for this video, I really enjoyed that! Unfortunately, my fear of 8 strings is now manifested 😂
What is the Sleep Token tune guitar?
A budget option would be to run both the bass and guitar on one quad and split the inputs/outputs
First off, not music related, John has a pleasant British accent and Ben's has much more twang. What regions do they represent, if any? As an American it's like a deep south or heavy NY accent vs a less regional accent. Just curious. Anyway, I appreciate a heavier Sounds Like. What about Karnivool, Vildjharta, or their take on something like Corrosion of Conformity, Kyuss, or Clutch? I enjoy all of the output from this channel while I drink beer and get ready for the next day.
Slap token definitely slaps
Should have gone for a helix hx stomp or something. It’s still would have been near £1000, but sound so much better than it did.
They had to find the lowest ceiling in the store to make these gents looks super tall lol (and yes, I realize it's the digital section of the store lol)
any chance of you making the patches available for download where you've used the valeton? more so from the Avenged Sevenfold episode :D
John and Ben are quite handsome
Good Me says - Tough gig for anyone to do , Great effort , Well done.👏😊
Evil me says - Digitise John and send Ben off to do a Andertons Punch n Judy segment with Oz,💣
Bring back Dave and Cici.🙏
Rational me says - Shut up and enjoy it , They are all far more talented than I am.🤔😭
I'll let myself out....😞
Do CANNIBAL CORPSE next!🤘
John could have just got the Alpha omega preamp with DI?
can we get the settings for the patches on the GP please?
I thought you could’ve shared the qc as it has 2 inputs. Great tones nonetheless
Id love to see a sound like breaking benjamin without busting the bank
Don't sleep on the Valeton, only issue is the stock IRs aren't the best. Seacow Cabs' free pack will fix that
I'm not a fan of the decreased budget.
It’s been £1k for ages hasn’t it, apart from when Dave and Cici did it for both of them for 1k
@DoctorFish10 it was 1,500 pounds originally then went down to 1,000
@FreeEngland1 apparently you do considering you replied loser.
@BetterCallJamie wonder if him and cici are on a tour.
That’s the whole point of the series??!?
You need to do a "Sounds like Nile Rodgers"
I was just thinking that.
If a band has a $2500 budget between the guitarist and bassist they should just get a quad cortex and they can both run through it, plus it has room for two others if they want. Upgrade instruments after the fact if you even find it necessary anymore
17:03 Their tech Billy said they use Kempers to do all the pitching.
1:30 ?
Finally!
Please do Offspring or Billy Talent next.
you guys need to loathe! you'll need a digitech drop or mooer pitchbox for sure
Would anyone know if you need a speaker load to run the darkglass via the DI?
You don't need a speaker load nope
@@sirstabbyfork9675 thank you.
I was gonna say: get a Harley Benton JA baritone, change the tuners and change the strings and drop tune it, and then figure out the amp and tone settings. 😂
Can you guys please do trivium
If youre going direct at least nudget in a cheap FRFR or something. This feels cheap.
Nice! And now I see sound like Carcass coming! 🙂
Great team, spot on sounds... Heard from Rabea ? He plays drums... just a thought.
bro please just do a sound like Dance Gavin Dance
Doesn't heavy guitar make up like, less than 20% of Sleep Tokens music?
Shout out to all the idiots who say Roman numerals as letters.
That’s not Dave or cici or the og dou wtf
III doesn’t play a 5 string bass, he plays a standard 4 string bass (35inch scale)
35" is basically a 5 string scale length. Standard 4 string is 34".
@@vladv5126most 5 string basses are still 34" sadly. For some it works (see Warwick) but many would benefit from 35"
What happened to Matt and Rabea?
They've been gone for a couple years at this point. Rabea is off doing his own thing with his band and Matt is still just running stuff behind the scenes.
The best. Btw, please make the budget $2k. That’s affordable nowadays.
2000 USD is about 1500 GBP give or take once converted, so that is around what budget they’re using anyways. 1500 pounds over here is quite a bit of money, certainly not seen as budget in this current living crisis 😭
I haven't watched this since Rabea hosted, now I'm just lost
Thats another reason I have never heard of them.... 8 strings!
The captain and rob seems different in this one...
Do Spiritbox!!!!!
You're not IV because you're not tuned in EAEADGBE and IV use mainly his 30" 6 string live nowdays !
And 3 plays a 4 string charvel and a 5 string Warwick
I wish you both stuck to the same budget. 1500 is reasonable for an entire rig
sound like three days grace one x album
Worship
An Offering from Andertons
Mother fuck I wasted 10 minutes before I realized this was not about Sleep ffs. I was like wtf is this gear ?
Bring back dave simson he is much more confident these days
have they done a polyphia one yet?
IV uses Kemper
The tuning is reverse of what you said
As other mentioned , the bass amp head is overkill if you go direct through DI, a Darkglass Ultra would have been enough.
The cash saved could maybe have been invested in a compressor!
Sound like ghost ?
evh by busting the bank
YAAssssssss
next lorna shore
Brosky missed to grab the literal guitar Sleep Token uses by ignoring the Gretsch bari
I don't think that 8 string is dirty and vile enough :)