Every Cancelled Pokemon Game (New Leaks Discovered)

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  • @AustinJohnPlays
    @AustinJohnPlays ปีที่แล้ว +872

    From the original story about BW2 & XYZ to the Lost Garden Game, all of that leading to someone who worked on a "cancelled" game is an amazing trilogy of video game preservation and I'm happy I was able to be a part of it :)
    Amazing work guys!

    • @NJTSuperKing
      @NJTSuperKing ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, guys! Phenomenal work, as always! I'm glad the info I sent over helped with the video!

    • @ThatPianoNoob
      @ThatPianoNoob ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@NJTSuperKinggot one thing wrong though.. the pink room hack is finished and playable

    • @eden22.7
      @eden22.7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That pokemon 2000 game sounds so cool. Too bad Nintendo took it the way they did.

    • @tomasgrance1657
      @tomasgrance1657 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatPianoNoob its been months since your comment, can I know on where to find it?

  • @Hiruban
    @Hiruban ปีที่แล้ว +1243

    Eddie is such a gigachad :
    -Only person of his team knowing pokemon, but still delivered
    -Made a banger and fun ad under the form of a video game with his team
    -Video game was considered a serious competitor to one of the biggest growing video game franchise in the world
    -Got paid and recognition
    -Delivered the raw files years later, keeping it out of the lost media abyss
    He got so many Ws he might be Wario himself

    • @OrgusDin
      @OrgusDin ปีที่แล้ว +89

      The last one is the most gigachad thing of all.

    • @lovevagrant
      @lovevagrant ปีที่แล้ว +77

      ​@@OrgusDinYou could even say he evolved into Terachad. Dude did such a power move

    • @Br0oham
      @Br0oham ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Actually the most based thing that could have happened

    • @steveluvscows2490
      @steveluvscows2490 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't really blame Game Freak on that C&D either; they didn't exactly plan that a promotional game was gonna be THIS popular, and they got their promotion alright.

    • @eddieruminski4098
      @eddieruminski4098 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think I'll have to have this comment framed for my office :D

  • @borby4584
    @borby4584 ปีที่แล้ว +1345

    This channel's growth is crazy.
    From perpetuating urban legends in the early 2010's (such as the "Buy it or Die" line in pirated copies of Fire Red), to finding lost media, and being a platform for obscure interviews that the West never knew

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      GayAnalDildo

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 ปีที่แล้ว

      🍆🍆🍆

    • @cristibratu5616
      @cristibratu5616 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Did you know? That Kanto Region in the pokemon anime was based on the real Kanto Region of the same name.

    • @aberonharmon3710
      @aberonharmon3710 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@denis2381 damn bro, you got the whole squad laughing

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cristibratu5616to be fair americans are really bad at geography

  • @ethanrivers4057
    @ethanrivers4057 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    DYKG: *Gets a video taken down by Nintendo because Nintendo doesn't understand journalism*
    DYKG: *Proceeds to Make it their mission to the most in depth pokemon journalism on TH-cam*
    Love the dedication.

  • @akswordking
    @akswordking ปีที่แล้ว +781

    So I wanted to add to this; Much like with how Zygarde and Kyurem were positioned, in Diamond and Pearl, Giritina was also there just sitting in a cave with no attached story until the release of Platinum. Even Necrozma had a similar position as the only Pokemon in the Ultra Beast side story in Sun and Moon, then in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon did Necrozma get any real story.
    So it definitely was set up for a Z version that never got released.

    • @PIKMINROCK1
      @PIKMINROCK1 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      To further add to this, Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire have Rayquaza in a similar styled post-game dungeon to Giratina. Not a whole lot of story until Pokemon Emerald where it breaks up Groudon and Kyogre's fight. Pokemon Sword & Shield do have Eternatus but, it's actually involved with the story and a big final fight for the end of the game with its own special form at the end unlike the rest. Instead of an expanded version, they did DLC which added new Pokemon for the first time as an update instead of a new version.

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And never will.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean, if that were true, then where's Mewtwo's game? He also fits the description perfectly, being in an important cave accessible only in the post-game.

    • @milky7257
      @milky7257 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@toumabyakuya To be fair, Gen 1 was before the trend of entwining legendaries heavily with the stor!.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@milky7257 Still, the "trend" you guys are talking about can be found all the way back in Gen 2 thanks to the Beasts, so why would Gen 1 be the only difference?.
      I just don't believe that GF ever planned to make Z to begin with and all the "evidence" is cirmcunstantial at best.

  • @particalman1016
    @particalman1016 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I remember playing the Pokemon The Movie 2000 browser game! I had no idea it was so good it got a cease and desist! It's so cool seeing it comeback. Excellent job in bringing it back to life!

  • @PokettoManStar
    @PokettoManStar ปีที่แล้ว +1186

    Kalos reserve 1 and 2 would've likely been A and Z, tying into the character AZ, and explains why AZ's Floette was never used.

    • @ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887
      @ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I've been thinking that for a long time now. Not sure if Zygarde would've still been used on the cover of Pokemon A, if they would've made a new A-shaped legendary, or maybe use Arceus (the gate on its back kinda looks like an A.) But Z being one of two letters in AZ's name made me think Pokemon A and Z would've happened

    • @Anervaria
      @Anervaria ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Me shoving my ZX and ZY version concepts under the bed bc A and Z sounds better 💔

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Or maybe they'd be silly and release Pokémon Z (pronounced "zee") and Pokémon Z (pronounced "zed")

    • @SomeLuminoth
      @SomeLuminoth ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Whoa but it would fit cause the beat for the alphabet song hits "Y and Z"

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don’t think those would have been the names, Pokemon a and Pokémon z? Or AX and YZ? not sure that would have been the name. Even the one they suggest in the video doesn’t sound like something Gamefreak would have named them. It makes too much sense for it to be any of those names. Gamefreak, and especially then, like to do weird “innovative” things, like naming the sequel to Black…. black 2. 😆 innovation!
      I think their names would either be Gray, Z, or hell even would have still named them B2W2

  • @ElectroBlastLuigi
    @ElectroBlastLuigi ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Timestamps
    1:20 Pokemon Pink (paired with Yellow)
    6:06 Pokemon Picross on the GameBoy Color (full ROM found)
    8:02 Chinese enhanced versions of FireRed/LeafGreen on iQue
    11:30 Fully enhanced localization version of Ruby/Sapphire
    11:51 Pokemon Pinball DS
    15:17 Pokemon Gray
    20:12 Pokemon X2Y2/Z
    27:49 Stars (existence unconfirmed)
    33:44 Pokemon 2000 Adventure Game (now found browser-based game)

  • @cookiecthulhu
    @cookiecthulhu ปีที่แล้ว +27

    HELL YES POKÉMON 2000 ADVENTURE!!! for the longest time i thought it was a fever dream of mine having played it back in the day, and for the life of me couldn't find it again later on! i'm so glad you guys got it back up and running, tysm ♥

  • @feanenatreides
    @feanenatreides ปีที่แล้ว +270

    I think another good sign for the possibility of paired versions like XZ and YZ is that there are two Zygarde cores in the anime, - blue and red, matching the color motifs of the original Kalos games and their box legendaries. I would guess that the two Z versions would've featured differently colored Zygarde cores. On the other hand the cores aren't actually visible in Sun and Moon - if it weren't for the anime we wouldn't know what they look like.

  • @nyls1717
    @nyls1717 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    It’s amazing that that people like Eddie exist! Thank you so much for keeping this gem safe for so long and sharing it with the world!

  • @helloluiis
    @helloluiis ปีที่แล้ว +149

    the fact that y'all commissioned animating artwork of the Pokemon Pinball for DS is insanely impressive

    • @MegaMetal96
      @MegaMetal96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s AI dude

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks more like they photoshopped some screenshots.

    • @RS-fz4ps
      @RS-fz4ps ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MegaMetal96 yes I was hoping somebody else would say it, but when you “commission” AI isn’t what it used to mean.

    • @SMCwasTaken
      @SMCwasTaken ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@NitroIndigono❤

  • @Nukhebuk
    @Nukhebuk ปีที่แล้ว +228

    "The game begins with professor Oak telling you that there's a disturbence in the Force" That line caught me so off guard I can't stop laughing

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It also got me real good, didn't know Professor Oak was a Jedi lmao

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, Oak, like Rosenberg, is a Jedi name.

    • @nicksorenson940
      @nicksorenson940 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it's not too far off from the plot of the film, which involved Pokémon sensing a disturbance in the balance of nature.

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi ปีที่แล้ว +126

    This was a awesome video about all the Pokémon cancelled video games. Learning about Pokemon Pink and Pokémon X2 and Y2 was great. We could have AZ’s character, AZ’s Floette, Zygarde’s backstory and the 3000 thousand year war!

  • @ashessakura7518
    @ashessakura7518 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    My two cents on pokemon pink: wasn’t Clefairy originally going to be Satoshi’s partner in early drafts but they changed it to Pikachu for a larger general appeal? So I hypothesis that pink was probably going to be identical to yellow except with Clefairy as a sort of ‘what-if’ by just changing the partner

    • @F1areon
      @F1areon ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Close; Clefairy was originally going to be the mascot of Pokemon as a whole, but Pikachu took its place.

    • @AkasagiPhan
      @AkasagiPhan ปีที่แล้ว +30

      At least the idea of Clefairy being a main character was explored in the CoroCoro Pokemon manga

    • @king_kong_carl9413
      @king_kong_carl9413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@F1areonpl

    • @Munchticles
      @Munchticles ปีที่แล้ว +23

      tbh, would have been cool to change it to a female lead too. So same game just different starters and player character. Yellow is Ash and Pikachu while Pink is Ashley and Clefairy or something.

    • @TheLordTash
      @TheLordTash ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I think people get too hung up on the Clefairy theory and miss a bigger piece of evidence: Pokemon Gold and Silver has a special held item (the Light Ball) that you can only get by transferring over a Pikachu from Yellow version. Gold and Silver also has a super obscure held item called the Polkadot Bow that you can only get by sending over a Jigglypuff from a past game. The Polkadot Bow is weird because it's completely identical to another item in the game (Pink Bow), except it has a different name and you can only get it off a gen 1 Jigglypuff.
      To me, this sounds like it was planned to be Jigglypuff's equivalent to the Light Ball, but got turned into a normal item when the game didn't happen.

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Regarding Pink, it's important to remember that Pikachu didn't get solidified with mascot potential right away. Clefairy was considered as a mascot, so it's possible the pink code was a remnant of the uncertainty from that time. I'll admit this seems unlikely, since the anime and Yellow released with a whole year separating them. But since it's hard to find when Yellow actually started being developed, I would keep a pin in it until further info is found.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I don't think we need any further info. LGPE is the smoking gun of their original intent, replacing rejected mascot Clefairy with newly-minted secondary mascot Eevee as Pikachu's co-star in these remakes of Yellow, in which Eevee beat Clefairy back in the day for the position of Pikachu's rival.

    • @ZombieBarioth
      @ZombieBarioth ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@autobotstarscream765
      Eevee also ended up as Gary's ace in the anime, which of course was reflected in Pokemon yellow as well. It was a conscious decision even back then.
      Eevee being cute but a bit more neutral probably is what sealed it for them, plus keeping with the theme of common pets you had a mouse and cat/dog.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gary's Ace & Starter in the Anime was revealed to have been Blastoise during Ash's Epic battle against him during Season 5/6 depending on how the Johto League Championship is categorized. Gary's Eevee/Umbreon may have been depicted as a rival for Pikachu, although the real highlight was Charizard vs Blastoise.

    • @ravenpotter3
      @ravenpotter3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I assume it was going to be made to more be marketed to girls. At least that is what I bet a development group of all men would decide if they wanted to go after the young girl market.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ravenpotter3 That development group of all men hired a woman to design Pikachu in the first place because Ken Sugimori thought his creation Clefairy was too _masculine,_ so it all kind of evens out there between Pikachu, Clefairy, and Eevee as Pokémon with mass market appeal.

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Love how this channel has become the reporter of some of the most interesting info and huge breakthrough. Also can't get enough gigaleak even if I already know all about it.
    I know it was passed but it was still a neat surprise and throwback to just hear Pocket Monsters 64 mentioned. I haven't heard or thought about it since hearing about it alongside Fire Emblem 64 a good while ago.

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GayAnalDildo

    • @_Claus_
      @_Claus_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Wilf

    • @WilfredCthulu
      @WilfredCthulu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AH!

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WilfredCthulu AHnal

  • @monopolyrubix1875
    @monopolyrubix1875 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Thanks to Eddie, DYKG, Rufus10, andDoomTay for your preservation work!

  • @MegaSceptile99
    @MegaSceptile99 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    It's nice to see something being found and restored

  • @nunyabusiness4904
    @nunyabusiness4904 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    "The Switch will not replace the 3DS."
    The same thing was said about the DS and the GBA and they both had the same result.

    • @animus3721
      @animus3721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      i play my 3ds more than my switch tbh

    • @ninjaguyYT
      @ninjaguyYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@animus3721that's ok; no one is perfect.

    • @Sonictheoofhog4
      @Sonictheoofhog4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now they disabled the online and Nintendo eShop
      The switch did replace the 3DS.

    • @creamofthecrop4339
      @creamofthecrop4339 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "The DS won't replace the GBA" but like... the DS literally had a GBA game slot, and was better in every way. Like of course it would replace the GBA. I think it's so stupid nintendo pretended that the replacement wouldn't happen when it seemed so obvious

    • @Espadasilenciosa
      @Espadasilenciosa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@creamofthecrop4339it wasnt better in every way. It lacked cable link port, therefore no GBA multi.

  • @iceman3317
    @iceman3317 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Something I wanted to mention that goes hand in hand with Pokemon Z. In like 2014, there was a trailer or sneak peak of Zygarde in his 100% form for the anime. Most thought it was a movie, but that footage was never used in the anime or movies.

    • @deltaboums
      @deltaboums 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ou peut-on trouver ?

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Glad you were able to talk with Eddie and get the game playable again. I ran into him on social media a year or two ago and I’ve always been interested in his project.

  • @MarcoSchirripa
    @MarcoSchirripa ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Literally every piece of content on this channel is great.

  • @okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    @okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ปีที่แล้ว +234

    X and Y will always be sour in my mind because it was my first massive letdown in pokemon, but I adored so many of the aesthetics that it makes me really sad to see that it never got a followup game that could've really ironed out it's issues. To this day I still get so frustrated that we never got any use out of that massive crystal sun dial thing in one of the towns.

    • @TheMarioBBB
      @TheMarioBBB ปีที่แล้ว +55

      The sun dail was so obviously gonna be tied to diance that its painful she never had anything to do with it

    • @spatial_rind
      @spatial_rind ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It was released unfinished and deadlines and money basically killed any original attempt to finish the generation properly. Hopefully they finish it in the remakes. I love XY and I love Kalos and I just really really want it to conclude on good terms instead of constantly being remembered as a letdown.

    • @the-NightStar
      @the-NightStar ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't think it was a let down in any way at all.

    • @xxAryAryxx
      @xxAryAryxx ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah, I don't think any generation got disrespected by its own creators as much as Gen6 did. It's such a shame because XY had the potential to be truly amazing and I personally enjoyed them a lot. The region is beautiful, I love the laid-back atmosphere and pacing and it still has the best character customization even 10 years later.

    • @Popthebop
      @Popthebop ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@spatial_rind that what I’m hoping with if they ever do the gen 6 remakes. Honestly I don’t want a new remake of black and white, I just want the gen 6 remakes. There’s so many details and ideas that got scrapped because of time, and honestly I’d take a black(2) and white(2) port anyday if it meant they could spend way more time on a gen 6 remake. Because It’s just such a shame that so much was unfinished and didn’t get fleshed out.
      I want to see AZ’s floette, I want to see zygardes whole backstory, I want to see the big sundial, I want to know what the ghost girl was on about, I want to learn about the war, I want to learn about all those things!
      They literally gave us the most interesting generation then they couldn’t go back and flesh it out because of time constraints.
      WE COULD HAVE HAD POKÉMON TRANLATERS! (It’s an actually thing that was planned at some stage but got scrapped because of time constraints.)
      I love this gen, and there’s just so much there that needed more time in the oven. And I’m hoping it gets that treatment in the future, because like I would love to know.
      Idk, 🤷

  • @2coeur
    @2coeur ปีที่แล้ว +76

    man i wish we got a pokemon z. pokemon x and y had so much potential, it wouldve been amazing to see a polished version like what platinum was

    • @BierBart12
      @BierBart12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I really wonder why Sun and Moon worked out better. There seems to have been a lot of unknown internal strife within the company that Game Freak would never make public around those years

    • @eliserss
      @eliserss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BierBart12 i don't exactly know what you are saying but the supposed reason that game freak never made pokemon z is becasue pokemon was sort of on a decline at the time with each generation selling worse than the last. it wasn't a super pressing issue or anything but they wanted to put their eggs in more baskets and decided to try to create some new series to see if anything worked. obviously, the 3ds titles actually did really well and now pokemon is bigger than ever again

  • @FrostedParadox
    @FrostedParadox ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This channel has really done some incredible work for games preservation. Keep up the great work!

  • @spacecat409
    @spacecat409 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love these, you all do more research and finding hidden games then any other TH-cam page let alone any other gaming magazine. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @Just.Kidding
    @Just.Kidding ปีที่แล้ว +188

    The pokemon saying their names was almost certainly cut due to space limitations. Audio took up a lot of space at that scale, even compressed to potato.

    • @violetsparkles5453
      @violetsparkles5453 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      That and it sounded like death

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They might have been able to fit it on a larger GBC-only cartridge, but yeah. Also, don’t forget that the voices were the Japanese ones, which are usually different.

    • @machiavellussedaili1714
      @machiavellussedaili1714 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      They had room to do bit crushed voices, it just doesn't sound good at the required bitrste to fit the whole dex so they just did Pikachu with a higher bitrste so it doesn't sound as much like demons having taco bell diahreah

    • @Shosholegbt
      @Shosholegbt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@violetsparkles5453Pokémon real sounds when they get caught ? Vegan : yes !! They’re suffering !

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank god they never double down on it. Err...except LGPE and Pikachu.

  • @buckstop
    @buckstop ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man the last few years you guys have been knocking it out of the park

  • @jesusmenjibar8716
    @jesusmenjibar8716 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for all the work you do on behalf of the gaming community!

  • @abigailbostic2198
    @abigailbostic2198 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As someone who has maxed out the clocks on several Pokemon games before, I can without a doubt say that I played Ruby and Sapphire's Pokemon Pinball more than the mainline gen 3 games themselves. I LOVED Pokemon Pinball and I'm so bummed that they never added any more in the series.

  • @metalgearskeletor
    @metalgearskeletor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been watching you dudes for a decade and I know my comments late but the fact that this channel has gone from a very basic fun facts channel to just straight up getting industry sources and restoring a old web Pokémon game is incredibly radical

  • @vguy488
    @vguy488 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That was an amazing video.
    I have nothing but respect and a healthy dose of awe at the amount of work and investigative journalism that goes into these releases, but this one is a special kind of amazing; not only did you give us obscure facts that would have most likely been lost to time forever, but you have managed to literally resurrect a lost media that is now preserved and will live on long after we're gone. I tip my hat at all of the DYKD staff and I'd like the video more if I could.
    Cheers!

    • @DJIVision
      @DJIVision ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks vguy, too kind :)

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I said this last year, but I’m pretty sure GF ended up seeing _Sun and Moon_ as the extension of _X and Y,_ possibly as a way to trip up expectations but continuing the story in a new generation, but ended up running out of time and dialed it back. This make sense considering that the other main focus of the _XY_ anime, Ash-Greninja, was haphazardly included in the _Sun and Moon Demo Version,_ and AZ’s Floette was programmed into the Gen 7 games.
    Perhaps they planned to have a part of the story/post game where AZ appears and he gives you his Floette, with something similar for Ash-Greninja, but they were scrapped and they decided to include Ash-Greninja in the demo to incentivize people to download it.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      AZ's Floette being there does not say much, it is still partially accounted for in Home. It being kicked out of the actual games was most likely a result of dexit.

  • @snippids
    @snippids ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I really wish Game Freak would bite the bullet and split off a new studio that just does Pokemon and is staffed with people that want to work on Pokemon. That way the people who are tired of it can work on other stuff and Pokemon can get the love, passion, and effort it desperately needs.

    • @siddhartacrowley8759
      @siddhartacrowley8759 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They did twice with Colosseum and XD

    • @metazoxan2
      @metazoxan2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@siddhartacrowley8759 and those games were fun and unique. They had their flaws especially in tryign to push 3D graphics on a budget.
      But they had some really fun characters and storylines.

    • @VitZ9
      @VitZ9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, because that approach has worked so well for Valve.

    • @ShuckleShellAnemia
      @ShuckleShellAnemia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@siddhartacrowley8759Colosseum was certainly one of the best Pokémon games ever

    • @omarreyes7626
      @omarreyes7626 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really don't understand your comment, but if it is what I think, the current state of pokemon is no due to lack of passion or lack of staff for projects pokemon has transcended games, anime, cards, etc., it's a whole phenomena, to beggin with they were never technical marvels if we're being honest, but I digress, the issue with pokemon is that is managed by essentially 3 companies at the same time, game freak, nintendo and the pokemon company, it has literally become so big you don't really need to try in any instance be it games, manga, anime, cards, for it to sell, it's capitalism at it's finest, I found a very interesting diagram square on facebook just the other day, it showed the squares of "my first pokemon game, my first MAIN game, my first starter, my favorite starter, my favorite game, my favorite game story, my favorite champion, my favorite rival" and such, wanna hear the funniest part, the person that posted this said his first pokemon game was "pokemon go", his first main game was "pokemon shield", his favorite rival was actually Hop, his favorite story was shield's, his all time favorite pokemon was lucario, and his favorite starter was the frokie evolution line, the kid said he started pokemon with pokemon go, this is when it finally hit me, all the people complaining about the new pokemon games are people who had their start in pokemon black/white at the earliest, but people have been born waay beyond that point getting into pokemon, some by app like this kid, some by the cards, some by the anime, and the games are still making millions, kids don't care about frame rates, conectivity, they just want fun new pokemon to play with, and on that aspect sorry but GF is still delivering, I love miraidon and koraidon, I love meowscarada and Skeledirge, I found ogerpon adorable, the games are no longer a priority, the whole merch is, pokemon will never go back to be "just a game", weather this is a good or a bad thing, it really depends on who to ask, me personally? I'm fine either way, all I expect from pokemon are new pokemon desings, nothing more, nothing less.

  • @DevilMayCarry
    @DevilMayCarry ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Rip Pokemon Gray and Z. Gone but not forgotten

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not "gone", more like "unborn" or "never was".

    • @Klldarkness6008
      @Klldarkness6008 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      RIP Stars as well. Wasn't the biggest fan of Sun and Moon, but I'd have played them on the switch for sure, if only for the better visual appeal.

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Klldarkness6008 You could always try running it on Citra. Keyword being "try" because on my computer at least it r... It WOULD run like crap if I ever tried doing something illegal like that which I DEFINITELY never did.

    • @keiviroque5666
      @keiviroque5666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who?

    • @baked7423
      @baked7423 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      at least gray got turned into black and white. Z likely will never see the light of day and stars we dont know if it was ever something but if so prob got turned into USUM. Kalos really did get the short end of the stick

  • @treemoney
    @treemoney ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i love when pokemon company makes most of their decisions based almost entirely on prospective profits

  • @daniellelondon439
    @daniellelondon439 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love these lost media videos. The Pokémon game that you guys restored looks really cool! definitely something I would have played at the time, if only I was a few years older.

  • @the_shiny_wartortle_8913
    @the_shiny_wartortle_8913 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Compliments on your research into all Pokemon games, I always find these types of videos interesting to see and hear.👏🏻

  • @jhsloz3160
    @jhsloz3160 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg I remember playing pokemon 2000 adventure! Seeing those playthroughs fills me with SO MUCH nostalgia. You said it only took 10 minutes but when I was a kid it took soooo much longer. Thanks so much for reminding me about this. That game was so fun.

  • @ths7478
    @ths7478 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are just getting better and better, love your work!!!

  • @Exlayer-pk8hy
    @Exlayer-pk8hy ปีที่แล้ว +30

    What throws me off is that Pokemon picross is a Gameboy color game but if that Misty sprite is anything to go by it uses the Generation 3 asthetic

  • @ryancurtis5425
    @ryancurtis5425 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nintendo: "Wow! This is good!"
    WB: "Thank you!"
    Nintendo: "In fact, it's too good... Delete it."

  • @thisismyaltaccount4195
    @thisismyaltaccount4195 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! The game is a fantastic piece of history, and it's awesome to see a community driven restoration success story! I hope Gardens can get the support it needs to get up and running. Cant wait to see more!

  • @teelo12000
    @teelo12000 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    "too many Chinese players were pirating Nintendo games" did they ever think maybe thats because they weren't selling Nintendo games in China so piracy was the only way to get them??

    • @FuckYoutubeCensorship
      @FuckYoutubeCensorship ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They don't deserve to be happy.

    • @man_without_fear6518
      @man_without_fear6518 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      So, how were they going to compete with a really well established piracy market?

    • @blindmown
      @blindmown ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@man_without_fear6518 if they're going to pirate it anyway, then might as well put some copies into shops for those who want a physical copy. Better than just outright refusing to sell it there.

    • @bubblewrap8823
      @bubblewrap8823 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@man_without_fear6518they can start by selling their products

    • @eden22.7
      @eden22.7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Literally. I mainly think its more about international relations rather than Nintendo’s willingness to sell in China. A corporation will go where money is calling, but nationalism will stay stubborn through it all.

  • @alolanjojo8153
    @alolanjojo8153 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    you guys do amazing work helping preserve these games, i usually dont like or comment cause laziness but this moved me that i wanna do something to help out, even by liking and commenting for the algorithm

  • @mariokarter13
    @mariokarter13 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "5 versions of Gen One would've been overkill"
    >Original plan was thousands of personalized versions.

  • @lerdog
    @lerdog ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "Every time we finish a game's development, we're left with a feeling that there are still things left unfinished"
    We can tell. Sad that more than a decade later things haven't changed

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ok i get what you are saying but that is literally every videogame developer ever. that is why galaxy 2 was made.

    • @lerdog
      @lerdog ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@internetguy7319 the key difference is that we as players shouldn't be able to tell the devs wanted more.

  • @Pleasejustforgetme
    @Pleasejustforgetme ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The fact Nintendo got so uptight over a 10 min flash game is so funny. Truely a suffering from success moment

  • @Darktentacle666
    @Darktentacle666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! That goes hard! Thanks for all the work you,ve done,as a latinoamerican fan,i appreciate it a lot.

  • @hmking
    @hmking ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The voices in Yellow that were cut were in an unlistenable format, these audio clips were the best the fans could code it back to readability. It was certain it was clearer like Pikachu's final voices. If anyone can convert the files better, please do share.

  • @VintagePokemonHunter
    @VintagePokemonHunter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love this channel for years! Thanks for the consistency of cool Pokemon videos

  • @EmpireGamingWynter
    @EmpireGamingWynter ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Z could have been insane with lore about Zygarde and AZ's Floette. Could have tied them together where the return of AZ threatened Kalos and thus awoke Zygarde.

  • @rapidriver
    @rapidriver ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is so awesome, keep up the great work!

  • @JorunnaV
    @JorunnaV ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Omg, I remember the Pokemon 2000 browser game! I played it a bunch of times around the time the movie came out, when it went down, I just thought it was gone because the movie promotional period had run its course, I had no idea that it had gotten struck by nintendo! So cool to see it's actually been archived, I've always secretly hoped someone was able to put it in a flash archive somewhere.

  • @DiamondIceNS
    @DiamondIceNS ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The way Misty is styled and the way she emotes when speaking in the canceled Pokemon Picross game is identical to the way Professor Tetra looks and emotes in Pokemon Picross for the 3DS. Crazy stealth reference.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    17:24 I do wish that they ported Black and White along with its sequels to 3DS, possibly as Download only titles.
    I am glad we didn’t get Grey given that B2W2 are good enough substitutes and Grey would’ve likely not made updates to the Pokedex.
    20:32 I also think it would’ve been cool if rather than doing USUM, they went back to Kalos for sequels.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, they can't make them download only without reinstating the 3DS Eshop.

    • @misterzygarde6431
      @misterzygarde6431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GabePuratekuta Should’ve clarified that I wishes they ported the Gen V games to eshop back in 2012

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@misterzygarde6431Yeah... Now we have to wait for Pitch Black/Bright White to come out for Switch 2 in a few years.

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But the 3DS could play DS games already

    • @misterzygarde6431
      @misterzygarde6431 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesusramirezromo2037 late but keep in mind that a 3DS port the Gen V games would’ve likely used the Nintendo Network

  • @renrenzambales
    @renrenzambales 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Impressive video. It shows that the Pokémon Company wants employees to be quieter and make us customers surprised. Maybe if the anime is not giving so much information then these games may probably be revealed and available as well. Anyway, nice video and most details helped me to fulfill some unanswered questions.

    • @Writing_Gamer_513
      @Writing_Gamer_513 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, look at what has been announced recently. Pokémon Legends Z-A with Mega Evolutions returning!

  • @5Porygon
    @5Porygon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :)
    Jste borci. Mám moc rád vaší tvorbu. Zdraví Nogy.

  • @corazonfeathers8116
    @corazonfeathers8116 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    God bless you Dr. Lava for giving us this information 💖

    • @DJIVision
      @DJIVision ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers mate. Had a lotta help, especially from Eddie, Rufus10, and DoomTay. My translator Jacob top of course. All those guys can do stuff I could never do.

  • @kurgans
    @kurgans ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That pinball game sounds actually amazing. We need this to become a fangame.

  • @costby1105
    @costby1105 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Likely the Kalos revisit was canceled very early on around the end of XY's development and the Middle of ORAS. The Mirage spots relating to Hoopa Hyperspace holes were clearly meant for Kalos and there were clearly Mysteries intentionally left over. Gamefreak had done the same thing with Ruby/Saphire to Emerald, Diamond/Pearl to Platinum, Black/White to Black2/White 2 and Sun/Moon to Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon. Likely the extra work that the 3DS added and the director shake up after ORAS made Z version get canceled which is why there wasn't a set of games released in 2015 as were planned originally.
    Stars was possibly a test for what Gamefreak could do on the Switch and was probably the start of Sword and Shield. A number of developers have ported previous games over to new console to help understand programming and development for new hardware. Game in general are planned out years ahead of time, so it is unlikely that titles like Samus Returns, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were ever planned for switch.

  • @artaleasham4105
    @artaleasham4105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool video mate. I enjoyed it a lot. I might save it to rewatch for a bit.

  • @Pendarr
    @Pendarr ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nintendo C&D'ing an officially licensed game because it was too popular is a very Nintendo Move™ indeed

  • @alhamnavid
    @alhamnavid หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:47 "Pretty much every pokémon were intended to say its name"
    *Proceeds to showcase the screams of damned*

  • @randolipe9056
    @randolipe9056 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That mechanic of changing weather and pokemon depending on your location in a core game would have been amazing

    • @draconk
      @draconk ปีที่แล้ว +14

      But also would make things harder for players that live on places with few weather variations

    • @ScumSookar
      @ScumSookar ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No. If you've dealt with it in PGO, you should know it's a terrible idea to implement in the core games. If Game Freak really has an issue with hacking, that would exacerbate the problem like no tomorrow.

    • @SombreroPharoah
      @SombreroPharoah ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The weather to date system on Sword/Shield was horrendous. Although Tbh, real time irl weather based, actually may have worked. To heck with that summertime Quagsire though :/

  • @StephenRain-v1u
    @StephenRain-v1u ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my favorite narrator for the channel

  • @nathanz128
    @nathanz128 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i cant even fathom what the hell gamefreak could make, that would be as popular or more popular than Pokémon

    • @anonanonymous9670
      @anonanonymous9670 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It just isn't possible
      Pokemon is the ultimate lighting in a bottle

  • @jinsden
    @jinsden ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legends. You guys are amazing. Keep up the good work

  • @TheDarkFiddler
    @TheDarkFiddler ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's gonna be ignored in favor of many other games listed here, but Pinball DS getting cancelled is a shame - it sounds SO cool

  • @Bonnie.Z
    @Bonnie.Z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing! Thank you so much for the content. I'm going to try and follow the instructions and play the 2000 game :)

  • @kirbydedede2494
    @kirbydedede2494 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's something nostalgic about seeing the old anime-esque artworks used for the Pokémon 2000 flash game. Haven't seem them since the green 'official' handbook two decades ago.

  • @nicholasrolfe316
    @nicholasrolfe316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love you guys. these videos are always so enjoyable and knowledgeable.

  • @Thomaswake
    @Thomaswake ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact they really thought any of those other games would be more loved than Pokemon is wild

  • @sp9017
    @sp9017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Who is here after Pokémon Z’s reboot

  • @l-l
    @l-l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bless you for dumping these for preservation

  • @BR-jw7pm
    @BR-jw7pm ปีที่แล้ว +6

    great video as always! always cool to learn about unreleased games!

  • @8BitAlchemy
    @8BitAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DYKG always has the best videos and does the best digging, thank you!!

  • @TStarman21
    @TStarman21 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wonder if Pokémon Pink and Purple (mentioned in the 2000 interview as hypothetical sequels) might’ve been pitched to feature Clefable and Gengar as mascots. This would’ve matched color scheme, established a 2nd “trilogy” in Japan after RGB, and legitimized the widely believed connection between Clefable and Gengar with Gengar supposedly representing the shadow of Clefable.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love when this channel dumps... good information and facts unto the internet!

  • @MiBrCo4177
    @MiBrCo4177 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What mine of my friends keep wanting from a pokémon game is one where you control the pokémon in battle. An action game. Your trainer, ie .you, the character that you make can call out attacks and the more you listen to him the greater your affection will grow just like in current games, however the more you as the player follow your own moves and attacks can bring out higher strengths and certain weaknesses as in Ash Greninja being a thing. Gameplay would be similar to Nino Kuni battles, But the world is as huge and on the same scale of Zelda: BOTW/ToTK or Pokémon Arceus.

  • @Scilence23
    @Scilence23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm always so impressed every time u guys drop a video

  • @houston-says-hi
    @houston-says-hi ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Even though it should be common, not many channels have non-automatic subtitles like this one does.
    It's a really great sign of care for the content.

  • @TheRestedOne
    @TheRestedOne ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man Pinball on the DS being so close to releasing is a real heartbreak. Loved playing the earlier entries with my brother. I hope a clever rom hack comes along someday.

  • @mistagreenbeanz
    @mistagreenbeanz ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Zygarde's complete form always looked like the letter A to me, so now i'm convinced the placeholders were supposed to be A & Z... I mean, theres even the character AZ lol

  • @Alice_was-here_1999
    @Alice_was-here_1999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish they’d talk about canceled games and ideas more. They’re a part of Pokémon history and they’ve all contributed to the franchise’s success and growth to some degree

  • @WhiteOwlet
    @WhiteOwlet ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think it's quite obvious why Gear Project games are not super popular with Pokémon fans. What's attractive about Pokémon is often that it's cosy, it's an RPG (so it doesn't require input speed), and it allows for great customisation (with the team you make). In many ways, it's similar to some Final Fantasy & Lufia titles, or Tales of Symphonia, for example. None of the Gear Project games seem to be any of that.

  • @smilingsaiyan8357
    @smilingsaiyan8357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done what an amazing and informative video!

  • @Arcona
    @Arcona ปีที่แล้ว +56

    ORAS was awesome. Adding more megas and adding megas into the story was awesome, plus the delta episode after becoming champion. Last pokemon games that I thought were truly awesome.

    • @FrenkTheJoy
      @FrenkTheJoy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You're entitled to your opinion but the Area Zero part of Scarlet/Violet was goddamn amazing.

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Up to Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon the games were good. From that on is a quick decline, with Legends and Scarlet/Violet being the series' nadir.

    • @anonanonymous9670
      @anonanonymous9670 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@llSuperSnivyll Imagine calling XY and Sun & Moon good while calling Legends and Scarlet & VIolet bad

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@anonanonymous9670 XY and Sun/Moon are linear, so they automatically drastically better than the two games that are trying to remove the fun aspects of Pokémon (Legends literally has none of them).

    • @anonanonymous9670
      @anonanonymous9670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@llSuperSnivyll "are linear, so they automatically drastically better than the two games that are trying to remove the fun aspects of Pokémon "
      You have never played Gen 1 or Gen 2 and it shows

  • @davidt3563
    @davidt3563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay community! Awesome content as always!

  • @EmeraldUsakaze
    @EmeraldUsakaze ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The main reason why Clefairy would likely have been the Pokemon instead of Jigglypuff for a Pink version is because it's well known at this point that Clefairy was supposed to be the mascot of the Pokemon franchise as a whole, before Pikachu took its spot instead.

  • @Innuya
    @Innuya ปีที่แล้ว

    13:27 the pikachu in that tree is adorable, dang dudes really outdone yourselves!

  • @notstanley9204
    @notstanley9204 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Anyone else get this video recommend the day they announced Legends Z?

  • @Thomas__Blue
    @Thomas__Blue ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! Totally gotta give it a shot later tonight!

  • @lk69ak65bl1
    @lk69ak65bl1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its a small detail, but at 7:50 when he informs us that the 3DS shop is closed, its nice that he said "in 2023" not "this year". It makes it easier for future watchers and not make them have to look at the release date of the video. Theres been so many videos where they talk about something that was released "this year" or "5 years ago" and you sit there and go "wait...when?"

  • @StebenL
    @StebenL ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking excited about Pokemon 2000 Adventure being playable now, I've been wanting this for so long! This has made my entire week

  • @InuyashaTT
    @InuyashaTT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    they released pokemon picross on the ds. its fun, but the worst mechanic is that you spend energy and when you run out you have to wait, but its otherwise ok. maybe the other versions were like minesweeper ? but its definitely more like sudoku.
    if anyones curious, your goal is to finish a picture, so you calculate how many squares you should put in the board by seeing how many there are both on the x axis of the board and the y axis. thats it basically. you can add xs for the squares you dont think should have a coloured square. and thats picross !

  • @Erissed
    @Erissed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oooh OMG I played Pokemon 2000 when it was available ❤ thanks for the information of what happened with it

  • @SuperPuddingCup
    @SuperPuddingCup ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, Pokémon Pinball DS sounds like my dream game. I started sneaking playing Pokémon Pinball Ruby&Sapphire after bedtime as a kid simply because it was the game that saved the fastest, so I could save really fast and turn off the Gameboy if my mom started to come upstairs, but I quickly fell in love with the game and played it constantly. I still play it a lot to this day. But a version with more RPG aspects and team building and battles sounds so fantastic. I can only hope they make a game like that sometime in the future. 😢❤

  • @josecarlosrodriguez9876
    @josecarlosrodriguez9876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man I really appreciate this video