Do you grasp the real meaning of a Turn Key Setup? Meaning it comes with all the batteries, control center! You know Forward/Reverse lever gauges panel, batteries, and Oh yeah the Motor! He never stated that is what will happen when you turn the key.
Thanks for all the views and shares! I thought I’d post to address some of the comments to date. This was a test of an early prototype. The purpose was to test various sized heat exchangers for cooling the Tesla motor, but we thought it would be fun to share the experience as a sneak-peek of what we’re working on. The trim was not ideal. I’m nautically challenged, however we captured the thermal data we needed just the same. I only showed the motor because the rest of the boat isn’t as pretty. Again, this is a prototype on an inexpensive 28’ Tri-toon our local marina had sitting around. Far from an ideal platform for the final product, but was an exceptional value for a test mule to rapidly iterate upon the design. Many ask about range and battery size/weight. As with any EV, range is proportional to speed and drag. This particular test was intended to get the motor hot for testing thermal management. We used approximately 61kWh of energy during an hour of mixed high-speed/low-speed testing. The battery for this test was the Model 3 Long Range pack with 74 kWh of capacity weighing about 1050lbs. Our product that will be offered in 2021 will debut on a smaller 24’ vessel with much lower drag coefficient, sealed recessed battery compartment, and fully integrated control electronics and infotainment. It will be much easier to advertise specifications for range and performance on the actual product platform once unveiled. Thanks so much for watching. Subscribe to see future videos. ;)
Awesome! Looking forward to EB's on water! I really don't understand those dinosaur fossil heads stupid comments. Combustion engines stinks and pollute the air and water 🤮 and the motor requires maintenance all the time.
I think you'll find that operating an Electric motor on water is different to driving on land. In a car you accelerate initially to get up to speed than cruise with far less resistance than a boat on water. The electric motors are far superior for torque, max rpm and maintenance, but battery technology isn't there for a marine applications that require decent range.
Like with Tesla automobiles, I think that making this a reality is much closer than people think. The power performance already is there, and I think that the long term maintenance and NVH will be superior to ICE.
@@Thanosisnotreal lolz. I rode on a 50' Outer Limits on Lake Michigan two years ago with twin 1350 Merc Racing engines. We eased up 100 mph, then from 100 to 150 in in a few seconds of WFO throttle. I just can't see batteries doing for me either, not yet. Nothing sounds like a pair of 9.0 litre twin turbo V8s twisting out 2700 HP.
@@machinesandthings9641 why would I want to listen to a Mercury 250 while boating. If it could be silent? (Provided they figure out range for marine applications.) It's not like it's a Supercar?
This is a gas engine 😆 fake! A super charged mercury verado is even less noisy than this mercury optimax. Its just painted green. Look up some other vids. Think, why are not showing even a different angle all you are looking at is a painted cover and you think they fixed an entire industry. This isn't even the best gasoline powered outboard. Many are silent and more powerful. You can see the fuel line going into the cowl with the oil 😆
I had a lake Karen go ballistic on me for rowing a boat within 100 feet of her dock. Motor not in the water. Best part was in her fit of rage she slipped and fell down the hill into the water. I just kept fishing, speechless, and let her self destruct
In my early 20's, I maintained several 3-phase induction motors while working as a millwright. Including some between 300 and 400 hp. So I can appreciate the electrical power at work here. And I'm impressed!
thats cool, i love the whirring sounds from motors in papermills. could sleep like a baby next to a big motor as long as the pump it was running wasnt cavitating or getting hammered by operations lol
@@ericsekula8103 I completely missed that, did they ever produce the MPH? Had pulled together a few details in one spot it would have allowed us to gauge things much better.
I’ve been running a rorqeedo 4 hp self contained electric motor on my tender for three years. No fuel, no starting problems.push on and turn the throttle. Works well.
@@o9rgeronimo979 $1700 on eBay with battery. I just bought the quieter more modern Chinese equivalent from Epropulsion for $2200. Sold my three half-running crap gas outboards and broke even. No more buying gas or spark plugs and rebuilding the carburetor every year, and solar charges it up while I'm not sailing. No gear shifting either - twist one way for forward, the other way for reverse. It's incredibly easy to maneuver in tight quarters since there's 100% confidence and no delay in power.
If they came out with some mid range: 50 to 90 hp that had batteries that could last 2 hours or more, and be priced around 10,000 I'd buy one. No more oil changes, filters, gas etc. Pull the boat out, plug it in, be back out the next day...I'd say that looks like a real good option.
That's B.S , 150 hours, you'll get a hell of a lot more hours than that. So tell me how much time will you get with that ev at say 3/4 throttle 5 mins 🤣🤣.
Same. 39 and I inherited my grandfather's old duracraft with a 90 yamaha on the back. Had it completely reworked and it runs like a champ. There's nothing that brings you back to years past fishing trips like the smell of that 2 stroke in the morning dew.
I remember when I was a little kid. My father owned a 9.5 HP Johnson Seahorse outboard. he used to rent skiffs and we would fish. Every time I get that smell, it brings all those memories back.
People are interested in this. Next time give a little more info, such as"this is a thermal test". Would be great to know rpms, speed, etc. Keep up the great work. It looks promising so far!
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat have you ever been in a tesla? I tested a y performance model and i was very skeptical prior. the ride was one of the craziest I've ever been on. between the autopilot and low 10 second bone stock car I'm sold on tesla products.
@Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2 Bro you sound like you're 12 and just discovered a thesaurus. Go play outside kiddo. Nothing about this is technical...it's some car batteries hooked up to an electric motor...and this doesn't even work well that's why there isn't follow up videos.
I'd like to see this on my 20' Triton bass boat. I bet it would scream! But, the weight of the battery would basically be the legal limit on weight for that vessel. So, we would have to make it the largest R.C. Bass Boat in Tuscaloosa, Alabama...lol
I thought about the battery weight, but gasoline weights 6.3 lbs per gallon. 50 gallons of fuel weighs 315 lbs. And some of the 20’ or longer boats have 75-100 gallon tanks. If you replace the fuel tank with batteries, it should be a wash.
I am an avid boater and go out every Friday, Saturday and Sunday. It is not unusual for me to put 15 hours a weekend on the engines. I think we are years away from having that much battery range. However if you are just fishing in an inland lake you will probably be fine. Pretty cool
I like it, no more fuel leaks and spills in the water, no more rip-off prices at the fueling dock, no more 2 stroke oil, no more carbuerator problems, clogged fuel filters, fouled spark plugs, carbon buildup, noise, etc. I want one.
@@TheBpsr2000 it's much better than it was, but is a 6000lb battery practical or even feasible on most boats? Maybe for high performance boats in Ocean situations where the weight can be distributed so as not to effect performance, but stick 3 tons of battery on a pontoon boat and see what happens. My guess is it sinks...
@@j.thomas7128 Also, the weight of a 85kwh battery is around 1200lbs, not 6000. However, the usage would be quite short since unlike a car, the boat is looking at a constant large amount of resistance to movement that the car doesnt see on flat roads. A 8000lb boat needs 200hp to go 20mph. A car needs around 20hp to go 60 mph. A Tesla is supposed to have a 200 mile range fully charged, but since the driver is only drawing hard on the battery during acceleration, and only lightly once up to speed, I am betting a 85Kwh battery at 1200lbs, would maybe give you 30-45 minutes before being exhausted.
An electric outboard is the perfect place to try electric power. No need for long drives, we already plug in to charge batteries for the trolling motor and electronics every night, quiet, all the power and torque available from 1 RPM
Yep, a Tesla motor that hasn't been abused will last a long time. Not so much the older Tesla batteries. The newer Lithium iron phosphate batteries are headed in the right direction though.
I wish the developers of electric marine outboards based on Tesla motors much success. There are so many benefits of modern electric propulsion: - electric motors are smaller and lighter than gasoline motors of comparable HP, are very quiet, and have no exhaust, and they always start - electric propulsion requires no gearbox. The motor runs backwards to reverse, and no mechanical throttle/gearbox linkage is needed - electric motors have instant torque and flat torque curves. If anything, they accelerate too fast. - electric motors require ZERO maintenance (no lubricants to change, no spark plugs or ignition systems, no filters, no fuel injectors/carburetors, etc.) - electric motors last indefinitely - there are no fumes that need to be vented- there is no risk of explosion - batteries are now lithium ion, with tremendously more energy/weight than older (“golf cart batteries”). They charge faster, and retain up to 80% of their capacity after 10 years of use. - cars like Teslas have ranges over 300 mi., and can be 80% recharged in under ½ hour. It should be easy to install boat batteries with the capacity to run as far as gasoline powered boats. - electric propulsion costs more up front. But electric fuel costs much less, and maintenance should be almost zero - Tesla cars retain higher resale value than comparable gasoline cars - imagine never having to drive to a gas dock (or find one that isn’t closed). Just pull into your slip and plug in. Leave the dock every morning with a “full tank” Electric power may not immediately replace petroleum fuels for every boating application. Some vessels may need 200 miles of range (or more), and can’t spend a few hours to “re-fuel”. But for a big segment of recreational boaters these are not show-stoppers, and the benefits far outweigh the limitations. When carriages were pulled by horses, people thought gasoline cars were a gimmick. Henry Ford proved them wrong. Now boaters can take the next step. Note: Electric motors also emit no “greenhouse gasses”, and there is no risk of fuel spills.
You'd be surprised. It's got to be much trickier to cool an electric than an internal combustion. You can circulate water throughout an internal combustion without fear of shorting anything out. Plus, internal combustion is able to dissipate heat with its exhaust gases--electrics have nothing going out to carry heat with it.
To 75echo they still have to test it and make sure cooling setup is cooling it enough! To Tony Gingrich I guess they prob don't want to vet the hood much do they!
You'd have more luck with an electric motor getting out of that situation safely. Could easily charge the battery with solar or kinetic energy:) Good luck manufacturing fossil fuel in that situation;) I love all kinds of motors gas-electric it doesn't matter! I just want more power and efficiency:D Options are great!!!
You could use solar and kinetic energy to keep the charge. You're going so fast that even a small wind turbine strategically fixed to the front could help with charge. At least enough to get you safely to shore in case of battery loss.
@@luxuriousfir I have always wondered why can't they do that on a electric car and just run a smaller type wheel/tire setup to roll on the pavement free wheel, to run a alternator/generator to replace charge as a alternator does. Or solar like you said!
Wouldn't work . To keep the batteries charged you need a gen or alternator capable of delivering what the electric motor is pulling . At this point you might as well directly drive the prop from the engine. The added weight of the batteries , a generator and another if engine makes no sense financially and weight wise.
As long as you could seal the batteries and electrical systems to ensure no one could get electrocuted, demonstrate reliability that includes battery endurance, at a price the average man could afford, this would be great.
You sound like my father. He knows everything too! As if they're gonna leave wires hanging out of it & such... I reckon there's a chance, just my opinion, that someone smarter than you has already thought of that...... & much more!
Worked for me on a 3hp scale. Super quiet, runs twice as long as the old gas motors... Twice the cost of a gas motor and no gas or maintenance costs. And it doesn't leave oil and gas all over my garage and bilge. It's fantastic.
Thank you for all the views and shares! Hyper Electric Marine is at Lake of the Ozarks for the weekend. We have two boats that will be in the shootout, our 24’ tri-toon with a 350HP outboard as is featured in this video and an 18’ Action Marine with a 420HP outboard. Come see us at booth 22!
@@noclu4u384 it’s a Tesla battery so the only cord would be for charging or an outlet at the dock. Can’t burn gas forever as it’s a non-renewable resource polluting the lakes. Time to move on
Sleek, quiet and powerful! I'll admit, that motor got me slightly aroused! But the moment was lost when I quickly realized that I'll never be able to afford one in my lifetime.
@@darryladams519 no, but a toothbrush and some dielectric grease once a year doesn't really compare to fiddling with a carburetor and storing fuel cans. I traded my 2-stroke trimmer for a battery powered one years ago. I'll never go back. It's a better system in every way, though still not perfect.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Key thing is though, the power grid in most places can't hardly handle the load it has now. When they get down with the growing pains I will embrace it, that and when the intial price is better. Could I afford a new boat yes but I'm not paying the over rated prices that have been driven that high because the majority blindly buys (finances) regardless of price. Now being in a wetter environment I suspect it'll be more than once a year of cleaning at least on the first generation or two. Until then I'll stick to my fuel injected two stroke out board that can allow me to fish for more than an hour or two. Not bashing anybody for wanting it. But if we really want to be environmentally friendly we should all go back to riding horses. They cut the grass then fertilize it.
@@MrScootdaddy NO. NOT HORSESHIT. You are INCORRECT. Tesla engines weigh the SAME as conventional... AND THERE IS NO GAS or gas tank or hoses filters ETC. So the weight is MUCH LESS.
Since you're all done with the heat test and you're ready for a different hull, can you give me the Tritoon you used for this video? I'll put it to good use.
I have been around boats all my life and just hope that the wiring does not corrode like most does over time But other than that I guess is the price going to be cheaper than petrol ?
Beautiful to see the future....Tesla's working on its own electric boats; battery density is increasing so it's becoming more and more feasible not just as a demo. (Battery weight in a car doesn't matter, but in a boat it increases the wetted surface and so the drag.)
You should put 2 paddle wheel inverter’s so you could charge while your on the move and a toon so you could hide paddles under the deck. Just a thought and put a hard top on it and you could pack it full of solar panels .
If you just look at the engine, it looks like its already mounted pretty high up, but i would be curious how it went mounted one bolt hole higher. Too much spray around the immediate transom and the porpoising at high speeds, might be able to get even better performance with just a small adjustment...
I think of this in the same way as I think of electric golf carts. Quiet, fast, maintenance free and 0 resale once the batteries expire and need to be replaced then replaced again, than again....
@@rsilvers129 ...more like 500k now - don't you get fed up like me explaining that all batteries are NOT the same all the time? - new ones looking like in excess or 1million miles for semi it looks like 😀
My golf cart batteries last for 7 years and only cost $550 - $800 depending on brand to replace . I live in a 55+ community and drive my cart on average 25 miles a day .
Tesla batteries are the whole bottom of car. Its bigger than a golf cart.. lol so you need a boat made out of plastic to hold maybe 4 people no storage not a cruiser to prove that the batteries will last an hr or two run time.. cheap azzz boat with expensive motor and battery is all that is gonna happen to try and make a point.. but hey boys with money and erector sets are always gonna be at it.. and forget about a cruise up the east coast or even a 90 ft steel trawler for crossing ocean never make it 300 miles off shore..
Sure would be nice to know how large the battery needs to be in order to get a day's worth of fishing done on a 23' CC with that motor! How much power is consumed trolling at 5MPH, running at 30 MPH, Running at 15MPH? Can you fit 60 to 100 KwH of battery into the space previously occupied by a 60 gallon gas tank?
I/0 boards are not nearly as efficient so will probably never happen what I would like to see is a setup for true inboards for commercial fishing would be plenty of room for batteries and solar maintainers
You are correct about everything I believe except for the fact that an optimax actually just sounds like that. Should listen to a super charged verado much less noise yet
True, but does your Bass boat have a 350 HP motor on the back? He stated after your post that this one produced over 350 HP's, even though it says 250 on it! Wait Bass boats these days probably do have that HP! I'm sure the total dollar amount to fill with gas is comparable to the HP numbers, and how many gallon tank?
Question: Range? Answer: Somewhere between a 1/4 of the way out to the fishing spot and 2/3rds of the way out to the fishing whole. Then towed back in by a 40yr old Force 125.
40 mile range and $100,000 plus about 6,000 lbs of lithium batteries your looking at about $250.000 set up You can buy a brand new 4 stroke outboard for less than $30,000 . The concept of high powered electric outboard is incredible ,but impractical and economically unfeasible
I'd want to see it pulling someone on a wakeboard, skis, or a ski-tube big enough to accommodate 2 riders at once. I'd also want to know how long a full charge would last while running wide open, and some other specs on the motor.
There's a young man in Colorado who has a video of skiing/wakeboarding behind home built electric outboard. His whole house is solar to power all his vehicles .
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 It actually does make a difference if it's pushing a 40 foot launch or a 16 foot bass boat. The acceleration is pretty impressive if that's a 40 foot boat. On the other hand the acceleration sucks if it's on a bass boat.
Now SeaTow and BoatUS are going to have to provision their vessels with charging units! But seriously, I bet a very reliable engine could be created with those Tesla motors. Serious question - what is the battery / engine weight compared to gas and a gas engine?
He posted a comment after yours, so above this one saying the 3 batteries alone weighed around 1050 pounds! But also said that the test combo made over 350 HP's!!
I just replaced gas with electric (Epropulsion, 3hp) as the primary motor on a sailboat. The gas motors weigh 35 lbs and run for 45 minutes on a tank. The electric weighs 42 lbs including the battery and runs for an hour and a half at full throttle. Totally different scale but it's pretty reasonable.
So an outboard that runs when you turn the key ? now that's innovation!!!!
Do you grasp the real meaning of a Turn Key Setup? Meaning it comes with all the batteries, control center! You know Forward/Reverse lever gauges panel, batteries, and Oh yeah the Motor! He never stated that is what will happen when you turn the key.
@@bradcliff7099 I think he was joking about old outboards often being a pain in the ass lol
@@thomasnawrot6872 cranking that old 2 stroke till the batteries are almost dead
😂😂😂
Instead of the real meaning boat-Bust Out Another Thousand
It's gonna be Bust Out Another Battery
Thanks for all the views and shares! I thought I’d post to address some of the comments to date.
This was a test of an early prototype. The purpose was to test various sized heat exchangers for cooling the Tesla motor, but we thought it would be fun to share the experience as a sneak-peek of what we’re working on.
The trim was not ideal. I’m nautically challenged, however we captured the thermal data we needed just the same.
I only showed the motor because the rest of the boat isn’t as pretty. Again, this is a prototype on an inexpensive 28’ Tri-toon our local marina had sitting around. Far from an ideal platform for the final product, but was an exceptional value for a test mule to rapidly iterate upon the design.
Many ask about range and battery size/weight. As with any EV, range is proportional to speed and drag. This particular test was intended to get the motor hot for testing thermal management. We used approximately 61kWh of energy during an hour of mixed high-speed/low-speed testing. The battery for this test was the Model 3 Long Range pack with 74 kWh of capacity weighing about 1050lbs.
Our product that will be offered in 2021 will debut on a smaller 24’ vessel with much lower drag coefficient, sealed recessed battery compartment, and fully integrated control electronics and infotainment. It will be much easier to advertise specifications for range and performance on the actual product platform once unveiled.
Thanks so much for watching. Subscribe to see future videos. ;)
Awesome! Looking forward to EB's on water! I really don't understand those dinosaur fossil heads stupid comments. Combustion engines stinks and pollute the air and water 🤮 and the motor requires maintenance all the time.
I think you'll find that operating an Electric motor on water is different to driving on land. In a car you accelerate initially to get up to speed than cruise with far less resistance than a boat on water. The electric motors are far superior for torque, max rpm and maintenance, but battery technology isn't there for a marine applications that require decent range.
Like with Tesla automobiles, I think that making this a reality is much closer than people think. The power performance already is there, and I think that the long term maintenance and NVH will be superior to ICE.
@@kenmayer5455 This fossil head wants to boat for more than 1 hour. Can you understand that?
@@Thanosisnotreal lolz. I rode on a 50' Outer Limits on Lake Michigan two years ago with twin 1350 Merc Racing engines. We eased up 100 mph, then from 100 to 150 in in a few seconds of WFO throttle. I just can't see batteries doing for me either, not yet. Nothing sounds like a pair of 9.0 litre twin turbo V8s twisting out 2700 HP.
The extension cord must be kept clear of the prop at all times!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol
Now that is funny. haha
The idea is to plug it into the trailer and charge it off your tow vehicle. (How they expect to keep THAT dry, I don't know)
@@NikkiTheOtter well you plug your trailer into your tow vehicle and it fine...
You dont realize how loud an outboard engine is until you dont hear it. Pretty cool. Keep innovating.
I love the sound of loud outboard motor!
If it’s too loud you’re too old
@@machinesandthings9641 why would I want to listen to a Mercury 250 while boating. If it could be silent? (Provided they figure out range for marine applications.) It's not like it's a Supercar?
This is a gas engine 😆 fake! A super charged mercury verado is even less noisy than this mercury optimax. Its just painted green. Look up some other vids. Think, why are not showing even a different angle all you are looking at is a painted cover and you think they fixed an entire industry. This isn't even the best gasoline powered outboard. Many are silent and more powerful. You can see the fuel line going into the cowl with the oil 😆
@@Jayguy7 I have an optimax it is significantly louder than this lol
I have one of these on my blender, I can make 500 pina coladas in two minutes
New life goals
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
The motor’s name: MixMaster 350
wurly164 it’s probably tough to find 499 other people who enjoy pina coladas tho.
The “Lake Karen’s” are going to hate this one..... especially those lakes restricted to electric motor only. 🤣👍
Lake Karens....ffs beautiful.
I bet you can derate it to 9.9 to be compliant 😁
Jajaja 😂 your so right
I had a lake Karen go ballistic on me for rowing a boat within 100 feet of her dock. Motor not in the water. Best part was in her fit of rage she slipped and fell down the hill into the water. I just kept fishing, speechless, and let her self destruct
Impressive 👍
In my early 20's, I maintained several 3-phase induction motors while working as a millwright. Including some between 300 and 400 hp. So I can appreciate the electrical power at work here. And I'm impressed!
thats cool, i love the whirring sounds from motors in papermills. could sleep like a baby next to a big motor as long as the pump it was running wasnt cavitating or getting hammered by operations lol
Would be nice to know details of the boat such as dimensions and weight including batteries.
No batteries on deck.
They are below.
Boat draws 3' .
@@patrickbennett2737 that answered so much. Thank you.
In the description it says it's on a 28ft tri-toon
@@ericsekula8103 I completely missed that, did they ever produce the MPH? Had pulled together a few details in one spot it would have allowed us to gauge things much better.
The fastest trolling motor.
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I’ve been running a rorqeedo 4 hp self contained electric motor on my tender for three years. No fuel, no starting problems.push on and turn the throttle. Works well.
Cost please
@@o9rgeronimo979 $1700 on eBay with battery. I just bought the quieter more modern Chinese equivalent from Epropulsion for $2200. Sold my three half-running crap gas outboards and broke even. No more buying gas or spark plugs and rebuilding the carburetor every year, and solar charges it up while I'm not sailing.
No gear shifting either - twist one way for forward, the other way for reverse. It's incredibly easy to maneuver in tight quarters since there's 100% confidence and no delay in power.
If they came out with some mid range: 50 to 90 hp that had batteries that could last 2 hours or more, and be priced around 10,000 I'd buy one. No more oil changes, filters, gas etc. Pull the boat out, plug it in, be back out the next day...I'd say that looks like a real good option.
Company called stealth makes exactly what your looking for I was looking at a 40hp stealth electric outboard before coming across this
And what if your hobby is to replace parts and to work on engines?
@@SnipCola28 Then.... keep doing that.... ?
Id need 1 to last me 10hrs or more maybe even 24 hrs
2 hours run time or more worth of fuel to power a 90hp outboard could be 20 -40litres+ the equivalent battery pack weight would need to be huge.
Nothing beats the sound and emotion of a 38 ft cigarette with twin blown big blocks at W.O.T🤙💪
Except the sound and emotion of rebuilding them every 150 hours
That's B.S , 150 hours, you'll get a hell of a lot more hours than that.
So tell me how much time will you get with that ev at say 3/4 throttle 5 mins 🤣🤣.
@@riprex2072 mercury has engines that only have a warranty for 10 hours at WOT.
Even if your not burning 5 gallons a minute?
While this is pretty cool, I'm 37 and have real fond memories of the smell of 2 stroke burning in the morning at the ramp......love it. Lol
Same. 39 and I inherited my grandfather's old duracraft with a 90 yamaha on the back. Had it completely reworked and it runs like a champ. There's nothing that brings you back to years past fishing trips like the smell of that 2 stroke in the morning dew.
amen
2 strokes are my favorite, easy to modify. And can haul buggy when setup right. We had a 7.5 hp that set a world record of just over 72 mph
I remember when I was a little kid. My father owned a 9.5 HP Johnson Seahorse outboard. he used to rent skiffs and we would fish. Every time I get that smell, it brings all those memories back.
Mmmmm 2 stroke smell
Two great major improvments, no stupid noise, and less polution, 🙏
People are interested in this. Next time give a little more info, such as"this is a thermal test". Would be great to know rpms, speed, etc. Keep up the great work. It looks promising so far!
IM NOT
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat have you ever been in a tesla? I tested a y performance model and i was very skeptical prior. the ride was one of the craziest I've ever been on. between the autopilot and low 10 second bone stock car I'm sold on tesla products.
@Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2 Bro you sound like you're 12 and just discovered a thesaurus. Go play outside kiddo. Nothing about this is technical...it's some car batteries hooked up to an electric motor...and this doesn't even work well that's why there isn't follow up videos.
I know they have been around for a while but this is genius
I'd like to see this on my 20' Triton bass boat. I bet it would scream! But, the weight of the battery would basically be the legal limit on weight for that vessel. So, we would have to make it the largest R.C. Bass Boat in Tuscaloosa, Alabama...lol
I bet it would be great here in MN where we don't have long runs, but the lakes you guys have... a 50+ mile run one way would be the downfall
I thought about the battery weight, but gasoline weights 6.3 lbs per gallon. 50 gallons of fuel weighs 315 lbs. And some of the 20’ or longer boats have 75-100 gallon tanks. If you replace the fuel tank with batteries, it should be a wash.
Super charged trolling motor, I'm impressed, very nice!
Most powerful trolling motor I have ever seen
I think I'm in love ... a LOT of 'electric only' fishing lakes around here!
I am an avid boater and go out every Friday, Saturday and Sunday. It is not unusual for me to put 15 hours a weekend on the engines. I think we are years away from having that much battery range. However if you are just fishing in an inland lake you will probably be fine. Pretty cool
Battery technology has already advance 4x since you posted this 😂
I like it, no more fuel leaks and spills in the water, no more rip-off prices at the fueling dock, no more 2 stroke oil, no more carbuerator problems, clogged fuel filters, fouled spark plugs, carbon buildup, noise, etc. I want one.
Looks like a green Mercury Optimax to me.
If only an opti was that quiet lol
20 year outboard mechanic, I've ran a few.
It's a definite yes from me👍
Just gotta figure out how to fit it to my kayak😁👌
I like the idea of quiet peaceful lakes & ponds if all boats went electric. But something has to be done about the 6000LB battery these things need.
something is being done....because years ago it would have been a 10,000 lb Battery !!!!!
@@TheBpsr2000 it's much better than it was, but is a 6000lb battery practical or even feasible on most boats? Maybe for high performance boats in Ocean situations where the weight can be distributed so as not to effect performance, but stick 3 tons of battery on a pontoon boat and see what happens. My guess is it sinks...
And when the boat sinks loaded with lead acid batteries? At least liquid fuel rises and can be skimmed from the water.
@@j.thomas7128 They arent lead acid batteries, thus the 6000lb instead of the 10000lb.
@@j.thomas7128 Also, the weight of a 85kwh battery is around 1200lbs, not 6000. However, the usage would be quite short since unlike a car, the boat is looking at a constant large amount of resistance to movement that the car doesnt see on flat roads. A 8000lb boat needs 200hp to go 20mph. A car needs around 20hp to go 60 mph. A Tesla is supposed to have a 200 mile range fully charged, but since the driver is only drawing hard on the battery during acceleration, and only lightly once up to speed, I am betting a 85Kwh battery at 1200lbs, would maybe give you 30-45 minutes before being exhausted.
Well done. Everything on deck better be squared away... including the passengers!
Calling on Channel 16 : I am out of fuel! Can someone bring me 2 gallons of electricity?
An electric outboard is the perfect place to try electric power.
No need for long drives, we already plug in to charge batteries for the trolling motor and electronics every night, quiet, all the power and torque available from 1 RPM
Imagine the cavitation on the prop when you give it the beans!
Future of EV outboards is looking good. Recycling old Tesla motors and batteries would make something like this doable as a DIY project.
Yep, a Tesla motor that hasn't been abused will last a long time. Not so much the older Tesla batteries. The newer Lithium iron phosphate batteries are headed in the right direction though.
Crazy fast. Torque looks insane
I wish the developers of electric marine outboards based on Tesla motors much success. There are so many benefits of modern electric propulsion:
- electric motors are smaller and lighter than gasoline motors of comparable HP, are very quiet, and have no exhaust, and they always start
- electric propulsion requires no gearbox. The motor runs backwards to reverse, and no mechanical throttle/gearbox linkage is needed
- electric motors have instant torque and flat torque curves. If anything, they accelerate too fast.
- electric motors require ZERO maintenance (no lubricants to change, no spark plugs or ignition systems, no filters, no fuel injectors/carburetors, etc.)
- electric motors last indefinitely
- there are no fumes that need to be vented- there is no risk of explosion
- batteries are now lithium ion, with tremendously more energy/weight than older (“golf cart batteries”). They charge faster, and retain up to 80% of their capacity after 10 years of use.
- cars like Teslas have ranges over 300 mi., and can be 80% recharged in under ½ hour. It should be easy to install boat batteries with the capacity to run as far as gasoline powered boats.
- electric propulsion costs more up front. But electric fuel costs much less, and maintenance should be almost zero
- Tesla cars retain higher resale value than comparable gasoline cars
- imagine never having to drive to a gas dock (or find one that isn’t closed). Just pull into your slip and plug in. Leave the dock every morning with a “full tank”
Electric power may not immediately replace petroleum fuels for every boating application. Some vessels may need 200 miles of range (or more), and can’t spend a few hours to “re-fuel”. But for a big segment of recreational boaters these are not show-stoppers, and the benefits far outweigh the limitations. When carriages were pulled by horses, people thought gasoline cars were a gimmick. Henry Ford proved them wrong. Now boaters can take the next step.
Note: Electric motors also emit no “greenhouse gasses”, and there is no risk of fuel spills.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest guy in town.
Pretty cool to see on a boat. Thank you for sharing this Kaleb.
That outboard is very green! ⛵
Cooling should not be a problem as you have plenty of water around
You'd be surprised. It's got to be much trickier to cool an electric than an internal combustion. You can circulate water throughout an internal combustion without fear of shorting anything out. Plus, internal combustion is able to dissipate heat with its exhaust gases--electrics have nothing going out to carry heat with it.
To 75echo they still have to test it and make sure cooling setup is cooling it enough! To Tony Gingrich I guess they prob don't want to vet the hood much do they!
Would make a super sweet center console setup. Have solar panels cover the console so it charges simultaneously.
Smart Idea the Solar panels block the sun so that you aren't burning up, I'm that is on the engineering table right now.
"HI, Towboat!.. yeah, ran out of battery! "
You'd have more luck with an electric motor getting out of that situation safely. Could easily charge the battery with solar or kinetic energy:) Good luck manufacturing fossil fuel in that situation;)
I love all kinds of motors gas-electric it doesn't matter! I just want more power and efficiency:D Options are great!!!
You are going to need one hell of an extension lead for that!
When it starts porpoising like that you need to trim it down a little bit more
Water and electricity. Perfect mixture!
Excellent! Range you ask? About 3 miles.
For some reason I see the perfect triple engine setup. 2 electrics with 1 gas to help keep a charge.
You could use solar and kinetic energy to keep the charge. You're going so fast that even a small wind turbine strategically fixed to the front could help with charge.
At least enough to get you safely to shore in case of battery loss.
@@luxuriousfir I have always wondered why can't they do that on a electric car and just run a smaller type wheel/tire setup to roll on the pavement free wheel, to run a alternator/generator to replace charge as a alternator does. Or solar like you said!
Wouldn't work . To keep the batteries charged you need a gen or alternator capable of delivering what the electric motor is pulling . At this point you might as well directly drive the prop from the engine. The added weight of the batteries , a generator and another if engine makes no sense financially and weight wise.
As long as you could seal the batteries and electrical systems to ensure no one could get electrocuted, demonstrate reliability that includes battery endurance, at a price the average man could afford, this would be great.
You sound like my father. He knows everything too!
As if they're gonna leave wires hanging out of it & such... I reckon there's a chance, just my opinion, that someone smarter than you has already thought of that...... & much more!
Boats already have batteries on them...
Worked for me on a 3hp scale. Super quiet, runs twice as long as the old gas motors... Twice the cost of a gas motor and no gas or maintenance costs. And it doesn't leave oil and gas all over my garage and bilge. It's fantastic.
Thank you for all the views and shares! Hyper Electric Marine is at Lake of the Ozarks for the weekend. We have two boats that will be in the shootout, our 24’ tri-toon with a 350HP outboard as is featured in this video and an 18’ Action Marine with a 420HP outboard. Come see us at booth 22!
INSANE POWER. Well done, you went all out!
No noise, no smell, no oil in our precious freshwater lakes! Love it!
Yeah but if you accidentally chop up the extension cord with the prop you have pieces of cord all over the lake .
@@noclu4u384 it’s a Tesla battery so the only cord would be for charging or an outlet at the dock. Can’t burn gas forever as it’s a non-renewable resource polluting the lakes. Time to move on
Why didn’t they show the 28ft boat-shaped battery?
Same reason they didn't pull the hood off and show the electric motor. Spoiler its not there. 😄
I bet the hole shot is amazing with all that torque. Will need a hell of a transom.
Liked to have seen the batteries that power this amount etc 👍🔋
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YEAH and the dump mine they harvested it from. And the ICE machines that facilitated all of this 😅
Sleek, quiet and powerful! I'll admit, that motor got me slightly aroused!
But the moment was lost when I quickly realized that I'll never be able to afford one in my lifetime.
Everyone forgets that props like rpm and these motors can spin to 10k easy
If only batteries weren't required here they'd be unstoppable
Past 10k
Like 16k
The pitch of the prop has to match the motor to get the right hole shot and top speed. High RPM might work great on a jet drive.
If the tip speed is too high, all the rpm in the world won't help. Hes using a regular non surfacing prop here. Not gonna matter past 7k rpm anyway
This thing might fit my 1981 17 whaler! We be whaling mon! I'm feeling the green!
Now that’s one big trolling motor!
WOW ! WOW ! WOW. ! A FRIGGIN 350 HP MARGARITA MACHINE !!! I'LL TAKE FOUR OF THEM PLEASE 😎
Reminds me when I let my baby brother play with the electric train while in the bath.
What a great auxiliary for a sailboat.
I guess if it pairs with a roof cover tesla solar panel for the battery recharge, it's goes running forever.
Trolling motor. Not for trolling waters, but for trolling speed boats when they think they're fast.
Electric engines like this have zero advantage in water.
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat you mean aside from needing nearly ZERO maintenance? Sure.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Cleaning connections/terminals not completely zero maintenance free.
@@darryladams519 no, but a toothbrush and some dielectric grease once a year doesn't really compare to fiddling with a carburetor and storing fuel cans. I traded my 2-stroke trimmer for a battery powered one years ago. I'll never go back. It's a better system in every way, though still not perfect.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Key thing is though, the power grid in most places can't hardly handle the load it has now. When they get down with the growing pains I will embrace it, that and when the intial price is better. Could I afford a new boat yes but I'm not paying the over rated prices that have been driven that high because the majority blindly buys (finances) regardless of price. Now being in a wetter environment I suspect it'll be more than once a year of cleaning at least on the first generation or two. Until then I'll stick to my fuel injected two stroke out board that can allow me to fish for more than an hour or two. Not bashing anybody for wanting it. But if we really want to be environmentally friendly we should all go back to riding horses. They cut the grass then fertilize it.
Awesome, can't wait for more testing and info . 👍👍👍
Good job putting a painted mercury coiling over a Tesla
Motor
Lol I knew it looked like my optimax!
Barron Manning cowling
Hey atleast it won't guardian mode every other crank rotation
That its the same Mercury Optimax....
Yep just another internet fake for the gullible. "Oh its so quite, its so clean, its the future" 😆
What a beastly torque! The noise and smell of smoke is finally over!
thats what im terrified of
@@ct1762 right same I run a 1983 Suzuki 115 love it so much
Not yet this is just a mercury optimax. Fake much?
A badass and quiet motor. Nice.
That's great I'm not an electric guy at all but I like being quiet out on the river, I need one
It's amazing. Nearly totally silent. It takes some getting used to. You feel like your adrift but you know you're still safely under power.
I love this! I’d like to see the boat too, more of the setup.
5 of those lined up side by side would be badassed for the entire mile the batteries would last.
Pontoon boat required for the giant battery.
nope.
and much lighter than conventional
@@DaveTheBigTomato horseshit!
@@MrScootdaddy
NO.
NOT HORSESHIT.
You are INCORRECT.
Tesla engines weigh the SAME as conventional...
AND THERE IS NO GAS or gas tank or hoses filters ETC.
So the weight is MUCH
LESS.
@@DaveTheBigTomato wrong... how much do the batteries weigh?
@@MrScootdaddy
example:
40hp
engine + 2 batteries = THE SAME AS CONVENTIONAL MOTOR.
look on the wesite
Since you're all done with the heat test and you're ready for a different hull, can you give me the Tritoon you used for this video? I'll put it to good use.
I have been around boats all my life and just hope that the wiring does not corrode like most does over time
But other than that I guess is the price going to be cheaper than petrol ?
Paul from Iowa, I like the sound and looks like a lot of torque
Beautiful to see the future....Tesla's working on its own electric boats; battery density is increasing so it's becoming more and more feasible not just as a demo. (Battery weight in a car doesn't matter, but in a boat it increases the wetted surface and so the drag.)
That would be a good thing for the wake surfing crowd. Maybe the best market for these is the water sports market. Thoughts?
You should put 2 paddle wheel inverter’s so you could charge while your on the move and a toon so you could hide paddles under the deck. Just a thought and put a hard top on it and you could pack it full of solar panels .
Quiet and no exhaust in water, cool. On thing about trying to relax at lake is all the motor noise.
If you just look at the engine, it looks like its already mounted pretty high up, but i would be curious how it went mounted one bolt hole higher. Too much spray around the immediate transom and the porpoising at high speeds, might be able to get even better performance with just a small adjustment...
Also they could try a variable pitch prop. ?? Maybe
its a sloppy wake for sure, but without knowing the height and type of transom, we are out
cant wait for all day skiing behind one of these awesome engines, hope im still young enough.
Ok, Ill ask the question. How much for the 250hp, What does it weigh and are the rules in the bass tournament going allow these.
Those arent launches lol hit the throttle to full from a dig
I think something would break.
Hitting it from a dig is bad for the transom
You’re talking tuned diesel amounts of torque from a very low rpm. Something would break.
Shell be fiiiiiine send it lol
That motor would rip the transom off
I think of this in the same way as I think of electric golf carts. Quiet, fast, maintenance free and 0 resale once the batteries expire and need to be replaced then replaced again, than again....
That was 10 years ago. Tesla batteries last for 200,000 miles in a car.
@@rsilvers129 ...more like 500k now - don't you get fed up like me explaining that all batteries are NOT the same all the time? - new ones looking like in excess or 1million miles for semi it looks like 😀
My golf cart batteries last for 7 years and only cost $550 - $800 depending on brand to replace . I live in a 55+ community and drive my cart on average 25 miles a day .
Tesla batteries are the whole bottom of car. Its bigger than a golf cart.. lol so you need a boat made out of plastic to hold maybe 4 people no storage not a cruiser to prove that the batteries will last an hr or two run time.. cheap azzz boat with expensive motor and battery is all that is gonna happen to try and make a point.. but hey boys with money and erector sets are always gonna be at it.. and forget about a cruise up the east coast or even a 90 ft steel trawler for crossing ocean never make it 300 miles off shore..
A 7year old model s tesla was recently tested as having only 4% capacity loss. It had never been supercharged, that is the key.
No smoke and it's quiet. That's the way to go.
I'll stick to my nice loud non economical 2 stroke
Hell yea brother
@@Lorensfishpatrol 😂 glad there others that feel the same way
@@anthonyp2312 yes their is I will always love my 2 stroke
Sure would be nice to know how large the battery needs to be in order to get a day's worth of fishing done on a 23' CC with that motor!
How much power is consumed trolling at 5MPH, running at 30 MPH, Running at 15MPH? Can you fit 60 to 100 KwH of battery into the space previously occupied by a 60 gallon gas tank?
Would like to see this applied in an I/O format on a V hull.
Sorry video so short. Just got to recharge and we will be back at it
I/0 boards are not nearly as efficient so will probably never happen what I would like to see is a setup for true inboards for commercial fishing would be plenty of room for batteries and solar maintainers
Its a Mercury outboard with a green paint job and sound has been edited in the video.
You are correct about everything I believe except for the fact that an optimax actually just sounds like that. Should listen to a super charged verado much less noise yet
I can't wait to add 1,000 pounds to my 1,500 pound bass boat.
This is fact
True, but does your Bass boat have a 350 HP motor on the back? He stated after your post that this one produced over 350 HP's, even though it says 250 on it! Wait Bass boats these days probably do have that HP! I'm sure the total dollar amount to fill with gas is comparable to the HP numbers, and how many gallon tank?
@@bradcliff7099 your forgetting the weight of the batteries . It will need that power just to haul the additional weight .
Could you imagine 4 or 5 of those on the back of a center console..bananas
Question: Range? Answer: Somewhere between a 1/4 of the way out to the fishing spot and 2/3rds of the way out to the fishing whole. Then towed back in by a 40yr old Force 125.
You don’t know much about lithium, but that’s ok.
@@mattricard26 i know it comes from strip mines
i love the smell of a 2stroke mercury in the morning
oh man, I wish was younger too see this come to market. This is the future. Thanks for your hard work guys.
No it's not
Mercury optimax is pretty old tech. All you jave to do is paint one green like these guys.
Thats a big trolling motor!!!
I haven't seen where anybody has asked so I will. What kind of range are we talking here ?
hyperelectricmarine.com/
40 mile range and $100,000 plus about 6,000 lbs of lithium batteries your looking at about $250.000 set up
You can buy a brand new 4 stroke outboard for less than $30,000 .
The concept of high powered electric outboard is incredible ,but impractical and economically unfeasible
You get one WOT run then its 14hrs to charge the 1100 battery.
@@enginemaster01 wow that is insane . thanks for the info
I'd want to see it pulling someone on a wakeboard, skis, or a ski-tube big enough to accommodate 2 riders at once. I'd also want to know how long a full charge would last while running wide open, and some other specs on the motor.
There's a young man in Colorado who has a video of skiing/wakeboarding behind home built electric outboard. His whole house is solar to power all his vehicles .
Now we just have to get Tesla to put a Suoercharger on my favorite lake...
It like really, cuz on a boat it isn’t that much of a problem to be at a dock with a charger for like 45 mins
And if somebody drops the supercharger plug into the lake, expect so see EVERY LIVING THING in it leap out for their lives!
I've been wanting a electric motor for my kayak in a matching color
What's the point of just showing the motor? Would have been interesting to see the boat with some context.
Could be on any boat it's a outboard their not selling boats only motors so why show someone else's products
Well, it's a kayak..
@@rustedratchetgarage6788
Because there's nothing to see in this video. Might as well just post a picture of the motor.
It was on a tri-toon...the worst boat possible for "efficiency and performance"
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 It actually does make a difference if it's pushing a 40 foot launch or a 16 foot bass boat. The acceleration is pretty impressive if that's a 40 foot boat. On the other hand the acceleration sucks if it's on a bass boat.
That's a really big trolling motor!
Tape extra batteries on the hull with flex tape
Dont forget to saw the boat in half
is a nice concept limited from the battery
Imagine if you forget to plug in the charger the night before a tournament lol 😱
That would be akin to not packing your beers in the ice box.
you ever forget to fuel up ?
You need to either get a boat designer to design a custom boat for you or get connected with the boys at Tuff Marine.
Now SeaTow and BoatUS are going to have to provision their vessels with charging units! But seriously, I bet a very reliable engine could be created with those Tesla motors. Serious question - what is the battery / engine weight compared to gas and a gas engine?
He posted a comment after yours, so above this one saying the 3 batteries alone weighed around 1050 pounds! But also said that the test combo made over 350 HP's!!
I just replaced gas with electric (Epropulsion, 3hp) as the primary motor on a sailboat. The gas motors weigh 35 lbs and run for 45 minutes on a tank. The electric weighs 42 lbs including the battery and runs for an hour and a half at full throttle. Totally different scale but it's pretty reasonable.
@@bradcliff7099 that really isn't that heavy considering 100 gal of fuel is around 800lbs
Podia mostrar a lancha e outras paisagens.
Só mostrou o motor ???
That will make speedboats almost as quiet as a sailboat. 👍
we have those. they are called 4 strokes.
Fourstrokes are already quieter than the water and wind rushing by.
@@nielsdebakker3283 sails are silent.
Awesome! Next mount to a hydrofoil boat >D