2003 VW GOLF how long will it IDLE? OR Blow up first? The Idle experiment. (ONE FULL TANK DIESEL)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2023
  • This is a very important scientific test to show the importance of not leaving a vehicle at idle for long periods.
    I will publish the winners on Monday on our Facebook page, thank you all for making a guess and happy Christmas.
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  • @nathanielc6286
    @nathanielc6286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +734

    I know these engines consume around 0.6 litres per hour at idle. So I worked it out to be around 90 hours. But she did better than I thought.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I was thinking it had a 50ltr tank and there would be some error on the gauge which do report 0.6-0.8/h usually So I would've guessed 62,5 hours :D I guess I shall stop shutting engine down while idling lol.

    • @philherb3843
      @philherb3843 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@rkan2 He put everything drawing power like the cabin fan, lights and so on, off. So the consumption is more to be 0,5-0,6 Liters pers hour. If I remember correct, these Golfs had a 55 Liter fuel tank that could be fueled up to about 58 Liters when pushing the vent pin with the nozzle while refueling. So about 100 hours is realistic. And it was nearly perfectly that.
      I have driven a Octavia of the same generation and had a bet to run 1500 km on a tank. I did 1550 km with all the tricks, with a consumption of 3,7 L/100km. But after running dry, I would never push the high pressure pump (belt driven) so long without diesel in it, which is also the pumps lubricant. Just turn the key, let the primer pump run (turns off after 10 seconds) turn off and on again for 30 seconds. After that, it will start in less than 5 seconds.

    • @velhonen
      @velhonen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Calling a car "she" is the most corniest and retarded thing I've ever read.

    • @amedematteo6636
      @amedematteo6636 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Less, less... that's my '07 3.0 V6 TDI consumption at idle.

    • @dom3827
      @dom3827 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      0.6 is actually much for a Diesel
      My gasoline idles with 0.5 L/h

  • @mas3507
    @mas3507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    Hint for next time: you don't need to damage your starter by trying to start that long after running out of fuel, when you turn on and off the ignition before activating the starter. Every time you do this, you hear a splashing noise from the fuel pump. After a few times, this noise will stop. When you use the starter then, it will almost instantly start up. Much better for starter, battery and unit injectors, because then they don't run dry for so long.
    I drive my Golf PD TDI since more than 23 years now. First generation AJM Engine with 85 kW, Chiptuning since 23 years already, 103 kW, 350 Nm. Never any problem with drive train. Never needed to fix anythin in engine, first starter, first turbo, first alternator, even the muffler is still first one. With warm weather I can drive it with 3.5 l/100km at 90 km/h, although I have 19" wheels.
    When you press the ventilation button, you can fill another 10 l into the tank, so that you have 65 l of diesel. This way I was doing more than 1600 km with one tank of fuel several times already.

    • @TheWarjunkie666
      @TheWarjunkie666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As a Canadian... Your comment about original muffler felt like a personal attack... lol In Canada you're lucky to get 5-6 years out of a OEM muffler. After markets usually like 3 years. Usually the pipe is what rots out first here.

    • @mas3507
      @mas3507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TheWarjunkie666 There are different quality grades, which have different lifetime, even from VW themselves for the same part number. From my first car, I also knew what you described: after market mufflers rotten after 3 years. And I have to admit: from the clamp that connected the middle pipe to the end muffler fell to dust. But that was easy and cheap to replace.

    • @matthewmorgan582
      @matthewmorgan582 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, some diesels can't self-prime though.

    • @MCLIcpfan000
      @MCLIcpfan000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah this doesn’t have a fuel pump. Have one and had to prime it and it is a pain to do.

    • @emilmoe92
      @emilmoe92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MCLIcpfan000But you don't have this engine. This is an engine with common rail and they need a fuel pump in the tank, so that is not true

  • @unusualstuff
    @unusualstuff 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +224

    Back in the day when fuel was cheap and before we were concerned about the environment it was common in countries with a cold climate to leave diesel vehicles like taxis, buses, trucks and locomotives running 24/7 in the winter, the reason being they were often hard to start in the cold, took a long time to warm up and the cold start puts a lot of wear on the engine. Not to mention that your vehicle was always ready for use with ice free windows, batteries fully charged and (for heavy vehicles) air in the brake reservoir. The idling capability were even considered one of the big advantages on a (older) diesel engine over a petrol engine. They could often be kept idling indefinitely without any particular bad effects and with a minimal fuel consumption. The other big advantages were of course the overall low fuel consumption, the reliability and the simple service requirements the old ones with mechanical fuel injection had. A couple of oil/filter changes, a fuel filter and an air filter each year, timing belt (if any) and maybe a water pump every 100-150.000 kilometers, that was about it for most of them. The big drawback: Lower power output than a petrol engine of comparable displacement, but the diesels higher torque partially made up for it.

    • @fodaogamer1
      @fodaogamer1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      interesting fact, i own an honda fit, 1.3 L, it idles at 650 rpm, consumption 0,58 L/H. I found it great because other petrol cara idle at 800+ RPM, this brings wear to the engine earlier

    • @espenberg8773
      @espenberg8773 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fodaogamer1 is it the 1.3l i-dsi engine u have? my 8th gen civic with 1.3l i-dsi idles at 900-1100rpm and drinks a lot of fuel on idle

    • @Santelssi
      @Santelssi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Diesel engines does not have any better torque than petrol. 2 same size engines without turbo and there is no difference. Actually petrol might even have more torque because it has more hp and torque comes from low rpm hp. But people still think diesel has more torque because they have more displacement or turbo or both. Vw golf mk2 1.6d has less torque than vw golf mk2 1.6 petrol

    • @hezza1354
      @hezza1354 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@Santelssithat’s wrong, more often than not a diesel be it turbo’d or non turbo’d will have more torque than a petrol for the same displacement however less horsepower. For eg E60 bmw 535d 3.0L has 560nm torque but like 268hp compared to M5 with 5.0L v10 petrol engine that has 520nm torque but 500hp. Diesels are notorious for their torque that’s why they are used in lorries & truck and larger vehicles where lots of torque is needed to pull weight.

    • @mitchell5064
      @mitchell5064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@fodaogamer1RPM doesn’t directly correlate with engine wear, lower RPM can actually cause more wear, for example a 5.7 hemi

  • @steve5772
    @steve5772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +254

    I used my 1.9SDI Caddy as a generator for a couple of days. Literally no issues at all. The fuel guage was still on the top mark after.

    • @pharmazynouni6897
      @pharmazynouni6897 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      How many KWh did you get out of?

    • @steve5772
      @steve5772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@pharmazynouni6897 not sure, it was running a little 300w invertor, but the actual load would have been a fair bit less.

    • @keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst
      @keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i mean kinda expectable, that like 0.4hp
      @@steve5772

    • @skino666
      @skino666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do you do that?

    • @NBSV1
      @NBSV1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@skino666By using a power inverter that takes the 12v DC and turns it into AC voltage for household stuff. Not the most efficient way to do it, but does work and doesn’t require having a specific generator.

  • @dumymariposa6795
    @dumymariposa6795 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    On the plus side, the battery is fully charged!
    And good thing that starter didn't catch on fire!

  • @scotty6346
    @scotty6346 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    Those early VAG PD's were pretty bombproof 👍

    • @bobgorman9481
      @bobgorman9481 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Until they put DPF s on them!

    • @Kalashnikov47247
      @Kalashnikov47247 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@bobgorman9481 the biggest problem is the EGR, some of them have just a cat like the AXR

    • @MrBird95
      @MrBird95 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love my MK4 AXR 🥰

  • @allseeing357
    @allseeing357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +206

    These PD motors are brilliant things, tons of performance and efficient pretty much however driven. Looked after right (i.e regular oil changes and the right oil at that) they will just go on forever.
    Had an Ibiza 130 PD Sport some years ago and it was just hilarious!

    • @someguy9520
      @someguy9520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      We have a 1.9SDI in our Skoda Fabia from 2004. 64hp and 125nm
      Its the slowest shitbox we ever had. But damn its surprisingly fun in the corners and we never got it to take more than 5.5L/100km
      Regularly 4.5-5L/100km

    • @simplexicated
      @simplexicated 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@someguy9520is the SDI the one without turbo? 😅

    • @someguy9520
      @someguy9520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @simplexicated yup. Thats one of the rare cases of a naturally aspirated diesel engines in a passenger car

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I remember back then, the 150 PD diesels were faster than the petrols.

    • @AnIdiotAboard_
      @AnIdiotAboard_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Got a PD140 pushing 300,000 miles
      a PD 170 at 220,000 Miles
      And a mapped and Modified PD140 with 195,000 miles on the clock. You aint wrong when you say they go one forevery. Just keeping throwing oil and filters at it,

  • @demonhighwayman9403
    @demonhighwayman9403 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    I remember back in the 80's we had a severe winter and people were stuck in huge traffic jams and of course kept their cars running to keep them warm. It was reported on the news multiple engines had blown up and they advised people not to leave their cars idling. So certainly back in those days not all engines could be kept running constantly like that !

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Probably just Wrong oil for winter honestly..

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@henrik1743 Well thevoil shouldn't matter much since the engines are running and therefore warm. Even many fairly modern engines have problems with lubrication on idle though, so that's probably why... Just not enough oil preasure.

    • @erebostd
      @erebostd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Friend of mine had the same situation last winter, they couldn’t move for 2 days because of snow and an accident. His wife was totally frightened because his car is electric. They lost around 45% of battery in the two days, because they had the heat on high, heated seats and infotainment for the kids. Now she always prefers his car in the winter 😁.

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erebostd what a bunch of morons, stuck in snow and use infotainment and high heat ?

    • @csutakgergo5279
      @csutakgergo5279 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@erebostdi guess you have forgot how li-ion batteries work? I mean under 0degrees C, you will have around 60% full capacity. So if your story would be true, that would mean from 50% battery theyve heated their car for 48 hours in subzero conditions. Did you write the bible mate? My friends, turn off the heat many times, because it drains the HV battery too quick. Also im pretty sure they didnt have a full battery to start with. Im guessing you have not seen the highways in -5-10degrees conditions, where every 20-50ms there is a dead EV left on the road :) next time try to come up with something more realistic mate.

  • @tonyt.5316
    @tonyt.5316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I have owned my MK4 TDI since new in 2001 and 430kms later. I always wondered this... Thank you!!! Great video!!!

  • @collyoung6017
    @collyoung6017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Many years ago I worked in forestry and went on my Christmas holidays forgetting to switch off a Unimog which I had topped up with 120L of diesel - 10 days later I topped it up again with 85L

    • @ATomRileyA
      @ATomRileyA 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      haha that is pretty hilarious

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      240L tank?

    • @flintsthirsk
      @flintsthirsk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unimog !!!!!!!❤

  • @sven-erikviira1872
    @sven-erikviira1872 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    In august found a neglected mk4 Golf with good body and 430kkm on the clock (AGR engine). Cold engine started from half a turn and no lifter tick. Did a roadtrip in another AGR Golf, 2200km with average 4.3L/100km.

  • @TheBlaert
    @TheBlaert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I have a Passat 130 estate which I had parked up at the side of the shed. Almost full tank of diesel. Started it last winter to keep the battery topped up and kinda forgot about it til 4 days later...

  • @sinitarium
    @sinitarium 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks dude! I always kinda felt a little bad running my 1.9 ALH idle and always wondered how long I could do so.... I love those cars they are the best. Take care of that golf!
    Merry Xmas.

  • @abdelmadjidkara
    @abdelmadjidkara 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nice experiment . I love this golf generation 1.9 pd (tank engine)

  • @sporkeh90
    @sporkeh90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Still not sure why this channel does not even have 100k subs, the petrolhead or well dieselhead content on here is brilliant. Enjoy the holidays mate!

    • @samteks125
      @samteks125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cause it's awful

    • @aleksadjuric112
      @aleksadjuric112 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good content but he is super annoying,

    • @sporkeh90
      @sporkeh90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aleksadjuric112 Why? I like him

    • @JordanSparkes
      @JordanSparkes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sporkeh90 the hard cuts every 1 or 2 seconds really ruins it for me -- it's way too energetic.

  • @richiec9077
    @richiec9077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That was a brilliant experiment, i enjoyed catching up with your posts. That would of been a very sought after cat at one point, lots of extras like heated seats rain sensing wipers etc, my first nice car was a mk4 golf about 19 years ago was pretty new at the time ,only an 02 plate 1.6 se but i loved it, it felt very sophisticated lol. I actually remeber thinking the sun roof was quite cool with the felt cover that pulls over 😂 lol how times have changed for most , ive actually went back the way and drive a 2001 audi s3 as a daily driver these days

    • @reuben-rt
      @reuben-rt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still have a mk4 1.6 se with sophisticated sun roof cover...

  • @marktucker208
    @marktucker208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad this video entered my life because I’ve always wondered this myself.

  • @simonwall23
    @simonwall23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Great video. It shows how useless stop/start systems are.

    • @HamRadio200
      @HamRadio200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      that is a great point. all S/S systems are good for is revenue for the battery and starter manufacturers. Absolute trash of a system. I mean really.... how many people are worried about saving a teaspoonful of fuel that may be consumed at a stoplight or drive through?

    • @iambenmitchell
      @iambenmitchell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@HamRadio200 Start Stop really isn't about saving fuel on an individual basis, it's about emissions. I've just come back from the US and over there they have traffic lights every 20 seconds and you typically end up stopped at them for 2 minutes or so. They need more roundabouts.
      But anyway, my point is it is about scale. Imagine the emissions coming from 40 or 50 cars sat waiting at traffic lights for 2 minutes. Doesn't seem like much when you only think about yourself, but when you scale it up to reality in cities.. the two minutes of having your engine shut off makes a huge difference.
      Isn't that useful here in the UK because I can drive for ages without needing to stop for more than a couple seconds at a roundabout, but I don't live in a city with thousands of cars waiting at intersections and roundabouts or in standstill traffic.

    • @utfigyii5987
      @utfigyii5987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iambenmitchell then those minutes turn into hours, the hours turn into days and yeah. thats a lot.

  • @Phantom-mk4kp
    @Phantom-mk4kp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Well at least the battery was well charged

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I had a volvo 740 that would randomly shut off. I was told to try cleaning an ecu heat sink. I cleaned it, started the car an intended to see if it would stay running for an hour. The next morning i stepped outside my house, realized I'd left it idling all night. It maybe used 1/4 tank at most.

  • @Choober65
    @Choober65 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    OLD VW's are INDESTRUCTIBLE engine-wise. I have a 52 plate Bora with 179k on it and the local mechanic says it's the smoothest diesel he's worked on, then again, I drive it HARD.

    • @beardsntools
      @beardsntools 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No they aren't lmao. In fact vw golf mk4 have bad engines, that start burning oil after 100.000km. You could do the engie rebuild which is costly, but that might or might not fix the problem. Also they pollute too much and they you will be swapping catalysators every 2 years to pass the emission test and that's with 10.000 km... they are just bad engines.

    • @mrproffesorr75
      @mrproffesorr75 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bullshit​@@beardsntools

    • @dari6795
      @dari6795 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      go easy on it, it deserves it

  • @bobl78
    @bobl78 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    the smoke during the test might have come from the turbo.. they tend to leak a little oil when the exhaust / bosst pressure is low.. the type of seals used use the pressure to keep the oil inside...nothing critical

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, very common, not a big problem until the turbo doesn't have enough lube..

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I used to have a boat that had Gen 1 1.6 diesel engines. No turbos. That boat ran and sipped fuel like you wouldn’t believe.

  • @DrCrunkMusic
    @DrCrunkMusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    These are the questions that need answers boys 👌👌👊🙏

  • @ermalmetaj5509
    @ermalmetaj5509 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was the best Test in TH-cam

  • @DigBipper188
    @DigBipper188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Testament to how well an engine will run *if you don't have a particulate filter to clog!*
    bet doing this on a Euro 5 or 6 compliant PD would be clogged in about 24-36 hours lmao

    • @bmwenthusiast96
      @bmwenthusiast96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah the DPF and EGR are the worst things done to diesel engines. Horrifying that they call them more environmental friendly when all there will be is an engine that doesn’t even reach half of the lifetime of such an older engine

    • @camillosteuss
      @camillosteuss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bmwenthusiast96 But for anyone worthy of a car, they aren`t all that hard to service and maintain... DPF can easily be washed out and have its soot and salts dissolved and the egr and the intake manifold can be relatively easily cleaned, and if you care about the car, you should check the engine every 100k km anyways... It can be a bitch to do so on some cars, but a weekend of passionate work will sort it all out...

    • @bmwenthusiast96
      @bmwenthusiast96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@camillosteuss that’s right. Did it to all my cars until now. Lately my BMW 320 Diesel with N47 had its cleaning process done.

  • @cullenmiller8170
    @cullenmiller8170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man I was close. I guessed 103 hrs on your first short you did.

  • @pecata01
    @pecata01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I guessed around 110 hours, since these engines consume around 0,5 l/h when warm so 55 liter tank, calculation gives 110.

  • @hzoltan90
    @hzoltan90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Next video/challenge: Will it idle forever? Refill it every 72 hrs to keep continue :D

  • @HuckThis1971
    @HuckThis1971 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I had a 2006 BEW golf like yours. Same color, same wheels! 😮
    My scan gage II showed 1ltr/hr consumption at idle. Only problem is I saw engine temperature go down in cold canadian winter. Not worth it to idle.
    Problem too with long idling, you get fuel in your oil from low cylinder pressures. Also cylinder wall scoring.
    I recently purchased a 2000 chevy k3500 turbo weasel with only 125000km on the clock. Has blow by because of this. I installed a high idle switch.
    High idle is required to keep engine temps up and prevent damage. Just like the big rigs (Lori's) Cheers!

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Generally down to -10C these 1.9s should stay up to temp even when idling, if not, then your thermostat is gone.

    • @HuckThis1971
      @HuckThis1971 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rkan2 thermostat is fine. Look at the piston design and you'll understand why! 😉

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, you are 100% right. Tthese people saying their TDi PD 1.9l engines stay up to temperature when idling in winter are probably going by the idiot gauge on the dash, which is designed to show 90 degrees C (needle at 12 o'clock) at any temperature between 75 and 112 degrees C.
      You say you used a Scan Gauge. That will show the true temperature. I can confirm that even in a UK winter when it is around freezing point, these engines will NOT maintain the correct 92 degrees C at idle. Even driving around in winter they won't, not unless you are driving them very hard. In winter a partial grille block is essential if you want to maintain that 92 degrees C, otherwise they over-cool.
      About thermostats, yes, of course a faulty thermostat will make things even worse, and faulty thermostats are very very common, but even with a working thermostat that does not open, does not send any heat to the radiator below 87 degrees, these engines don't produce enough waste heat to keep themselves warm in winter without a little help to keep the cold air out of the engine bay.
      It's really a testament to how efficient these engines are. Heat is wasted energy.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rkan2 Not in my experience. Are you relying on the 'idiot gauge' on the dash? That is designed to show 90 degrees C (i.e. needle at 12 o'clock) at any temperature between 75 degrees and 112 degrees C. So yes, it may well idle at over 75 degrees, but that's not hot enough to run efficiently, and is not hot enough to give decent heat in the cabin. And that's with a fully working thermostat, i.e. not opening, not sending heat to the radiator below the designed opening temperature of 87 degrees C.

  • @cycle47hall20
    @cycle47hall20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 76 240D that had a bad vavle, so i ran it all winter about 5 months, i did shut it down to change oil once, none the worse for wear.

  • @Heliwrenchin
    @Heliwrenchin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol come to Canada where we let our diesel run all winter… back when I was young it was -40 up in the oil patch so I never shut my Cummins off the whole winter, except quick oil changes at work.
    Truck still ran when sold it at 680,000km

  • @michaelhayes588
    @michaelhayes588 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of the best engines ever made

  • @rachids3030
    @rachids3030 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    These pd's have a high status of performance potential and reliablity.
    Sad that you don't work on Bosch VE VP pumps.
    Atracts a lot of customers.

    • @Dan23_7
      @Dan23_7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The PD doesn’t have the VE pump, the ALH does which was pre PD.
      The PD has a “tandem pump” on the head which pulls fuel through to the injectors and they do the high pressure pumping into the cylinders.
      There’s a lift pump in the tank too but the can run without that working, my beetle did just fine. I since replaced the lift pump just in case I ran out of fuel.

    • @rachids3030
      @rachids3030 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      VE pump is for indirect injection diesels @@Dan23_7 VW group volvo peugeot in the 80s 90s used these pumps.
      There is no supplier here near europe who modifies these older pumps.
      Only Gilles but he is in canada. It's too far and expensive shipping. I have a mark 2 Golf GTD. I always wanted a 11mm pump. But with no one here that understands how that pump works. You can't just give it to some mechanic around the corner and swap the elements to 11mm.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dan23_7 AHU, AGR, ALH, 1Z are the 1.9s with the less complicated or more traditional head with Bosch VE.

    • @hariranormal5584
      @hariranormal5584 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      VE? VP? Wut, ELI5

    • @pug2052
      @pug2052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rkan2asv too probably the best of the old type engine

  • @nicholasgrossardt4890
    @nicholasgrossardt4890 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a customer that had a 2002 Gulf. That was in a car wreck and he just cut the whole front half of the car off right about at the driver's seat just behind the driver's seat and used it to run an irrigation pump with a 50 gallon barrel for fuel. And he ran that for years an year's. He'd started up and let it run for days at a time and never had an issue. As far as I know, the car is still pumping. Water in the San Luis Valley in Colorado, watering potatoes in al falfa.😂🎉

  • @MrAvant123
    @MrAvant123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had an A4 with the PD engine - brilliant economy and performance - little bit smoky !

  • @poellot
    @poellot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2014 has the ckra and uses what i hear to be double the fuel at idle. But because of that the cylinder temp stays hotter and doesn't cause nearly as much wear. Semi trucks we idle the engine up higher with the cruise control to keep the cylinder temp up. Cars dont have that function built in. So i am glad my ckra runs about 350 to 400 egt at idle.

  • @satrah101
    @satrah101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Keep it going, refill when close to empty. Have competition on how many decades it will run for. 😊

    • @kennykennedy6298
      @kennykennedy6298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It would probably go until the oil in it starts to sludge up and the engine seizes

    • @pvtnum11
      @pvtnum11 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kennykennedy6298 Could mitigate that by working out a method to change oil out while the engine is still running. If it leaks oil at a set rate, easy matter to top off as needed. Filter changes might be problematic, however.

  • @MIHAKOPRIVNICA
    @MIHAKOPRIVNICA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TDI all red :) 👌💪 surprisingly fast for a diesel especially with a tune :)

  • @b4tm4nrubin33
    @b4tm4nrubin33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had one of these golfs. Best car I ever had. Wish I still had it

  • @stefanp7603
    @stefanp7603 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same TDI in my car. Fantastic motor.

  • @erikkovacs3097
    @erikkovacs3097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm just pleasantly surprised someone didn't steal a car with the keys in, idling, left unattended at a business with a listed address after advertising all over the Internet.

    • @Arthurroo00
      @Arthurroo00 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The viewers of this channel are probably people who do not steal just like with any small intelligent channel from which you can learn something.. You know there are places in this world were ppl dont steal things, mainly in Europe outside the big cities with local native people. I can run idle a car too for several days and if somebody is gonna touch it, only to shut it off so that the car doesn't break down.

    • @erikkovacs3097
      @erikkovacs3097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Arthurroo00 I wouldn't dare accuse any of the viewers of this channel but word spreads.
      Trust me I know there are places in this world where you can leave a car running and no one will touch it. Hell I wish I lived in a place like that instead of the Bay Area in California where 12 year old boys try to steal cars with handguns. So I have an understandably cynical view of humanity.

    • @dwoolwichpoly9086
      @dwoolwichpoly9086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Arthurroo00”with local native people” do I detect a certain racist undertone there? What you described is like that pretty much everywhere: a local town or village look after one another where as a city they have an individualistic mindset. Its got nothing to do with immigrants. Last time I checked, most car thieves are still British white from the council estates running up drugs up and down the country

    • @Arthurroo00
      @Arthurroo00 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@erikkovacs3097 I wish you to free yourself from this hell hole. Unfortunately, big cities are a tragedy where no one knows or trusts each other. I wish you luck my friend.

    • @Arthurroo00
      @Arthurroo00 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@dwoolwichpoly9086 Yes, read the government data, you will certainly learn the truth from them xD

  • @stevenv4481
    @stevenv4481 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video any plans to try again in cold weather or something like that

  • @frankatlarge
    @frankatlarge 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks for the 100 hours of entertainment!

  • @86smoke
    @86smoke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What you did is you allowed the air into fuel system by letting it burn all the diesel, so no wonder it did not start immediately. I'm actually impressed that it started without proper bleeding the system.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All these old 1.9s will self bleed... Dunno if it does good to the injectors though. I dunno how much they open and therefore lack lubrication with just air...

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There's a lifter pump in the tank, which runs for a couple of seconds when you turn the ignition key to the first position. (I don't think just opening the driver's door makes the pump run on these.) Probably a good idea to take the key out and put it back in and turn to the first position a few times before trying to start the engine, to give the lifter pump a chance to fill the tubes going to the fuel filter in the engine bay.

  • @JeanTheron-cf8zl
    @JeanTheron-cf8zl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I guessed 100 h. Close enough 😅 Dad's Polo TDI with the ATD engine idles between 0.4 and 0.5 L/h, so the Golf was going to be close.

  • @UpsideDownFork
    @UpsideDownFork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the kind of science that the world needs! 😂

  • @J.F.K.O
    @J.F.K.O 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It lasted 60 ish hours longer than i expected. It's actually more economical to use than my webasto water heater i have on my Mtdi mk2 it seems to use close to 1 liter an hour. I think you can "service" the intercooler on them they have a drain port so well VW probably expected some blowby

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I haven't seen any intercoolers on these with a factory drain port. I've seen plenty added with self tappers though :D

  • @silv6301
    @silv6301 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a cool experiment! Me and my mates always drove (and 2 still do) MK4 1.9 TDI's and we left them running a lot! Always wondered what the fuel consumptesion would be and it is great! Daamn! Please be carefull with the car i believe its an ARL and they are pretyy unusual here in Netherlands. And with sunroof and winterpackage they defenitly are worth a lot of money here

  • @MarkSiosal
    @MarkSiosal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm old scool....started driving a Mini Clubman round the farm as a kid, passed my test in 1988 but stopped driving in 2006 (injury). That thing took days to draw fuel after being empty. Back in my driving years, your battery died if the car didn't start in about 10 se-20 seconds. Or it would at least turn slower. Things have changed. Back in the day a basic toolkit fixed nearly everything. Now you need to buy a specialist tool from Ford to undo bolts on a Ford. A basic, metric socket set used to be enough. Only tool I remember having to buy with a part was a ball joint splitter and it would have worked on any ball joint. Now I imagine there's a Toyota Only Splitter Tool or something.

  • @dimmacommunication
    @dimmacommunication 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Old golfs are amazing

  • @hanspeter9636
    @hanspeter9636 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is "full" ? Full until the snorkel stops, or full until it runs out at the top?
    Also, did you shake it a bit to get all the air out of the tank?
    Also, cold or warm start? If cold, how cold?

  • @petersuggitt8957
    @petersuggitt8957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm guessing that was cheap fuel Luke - what if you had used vPower ??
    Or would that only benefit when under load ?

  • @Tigerodoes
    @Tigerodoes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to see the turbo exhaust side fin after this experiment 😅

  • @Hemeralopie
    @Hemeralopie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you please show what’s left of the x-hone ?

  • @berth7843
    @berth7843 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would be interesting to test same thing on a SDI

  • @CrypticMustard
    @CrypticMustard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always love a you tuber trashing something i could use

  • @nasnas3478
    @nasnas3478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That car is special, I wanna buy from you!

  • @KamionKing
    @KamionKing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What car is this and what engine?

  • @AlienLivesMatter
    @AlienLivesMatter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun experiment

  • @carsandgaming991
    @carsandgaming991 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pretty good, my seat altea 1.9tdi bjb consumes 0.4l/h fuel with proof. i think those 1.9 tdi engines are robust. of course maintenance is key to success.

  • @sv_cheats1970
    @sv_cheats1970 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It did well!

  • @Dan23_7
    @Dan23_7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That’s a 150 Hp with the 3 red letters TDI.
    I have a beetle with the 100 ATD PD. But it’s not 100 anymore. I fitted a 130/150 manifold, (they fitted the same to both engines) I deleted the egr and had it remapped.
    He’s a nippy little chap now.

  • @Emil-Antonowsky
    @Emil-Antonowsky 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subbing in the hope we get an engine teardown.

  • @wonkeep85
    @wonkeep85 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Everyone loves a 1.9 PD

  • @t5jerry
    @t5jerry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All I can say is wow ! CARWOW is where you've gone AWOL from Matt, but I love your NEW channel !

  • @Carr9T2
    @Carr9T2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    See how long it will last on the rev limiter.

    • @hzoltan90
      @hzoltan90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Put a brick on the throttle :)

    • @colinscutt5104
      @colinscutt5104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      until the fuel runs out ..

    • @Carr9T2
      @Carr9T2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@colinscutt5104 I think the engine would fail long before it runs out of fuel. I'd say under 30 mins until it stops.

    • @colinscutt5104
      @colinscutt5104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Carr9T2 why?

    • @FinnaPassAway
      @FinnaPassAway 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@colinscutt5104 cause running it at full throttle and you will either overheat and warp the engine or break an internal component looong before it runs out of fuel

  • @therompeettori
    @therompeettori 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sound makes me miss my AFN Passat.

  • @killerdinamo08
    @killerdinamo08 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my town a Diesel Golf GTI would be the pinnacle of motoring for many...

  • @jamespratley4384
    @jamespratley4384 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That must have been some spec Golf in its day

  • @Crazy_Alex_7667
    @Crazy_Alex_7667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard somewhere that leaving your car on idle for a while is bad. Is this true and if so why

  • @marioshondrov8646
    @marioshondrov8646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn i only started 6 times my 330d e46 for about 30 40 minutes this winter because rwd and half tank is already gone but it suprising how economic is the mk4 tdi didnt have this fuel anxiety with owning it great cars

  • @Irishmacwoof
    @Irishmacwoof 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come full for 2 days and then to halfway next day and smoke did something happen to make it less efficient? Ur going to have to but a petrol and do it again.

  • @aqibfreed4672
    @aqibfreed4672 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What actually caused the fails ? If you were to leave your car idling for so long, why does the engine eventually get messed up.? What goes on inside

  • @Jerry_from_analytics
    @Jerry_from_analytics 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What if you kept topping it up? Would it last a year? Or two?

    • @Boz1211111
      @Boz1211111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who tf can pay for such experiment? Haha

  • @Pocokcic
    @Pocokcic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A good diesel needs about 4-5 liters of fuel every hour if You can maintain. 60-75 miles per hour constant speed. Depends on the car, engine, chassis, etc.
    My first thought was that slightly less than a litre per every hour while idle.
    So depends on the fuel tank size. 50 liters should be enough for 60+ hours. maybe up to 100 hours, depends on the size of engine.
    Actually checking the oil level and even start the engine to keep the battery healthy have guidelines. These guidelines were not followed strictly in this video.

  • @aztechproductions5146
    @aztechproductions5146 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thats a pretty clean mk4 lol, cleaner than mine

  • @BSS22193
    @BSS22193 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How long will a Golf with a petrol idle before it runs empty?

  • @Dziugenonas
    @Dziugenonas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why did it start burning fuel so quickly after barely using any in the first two days?

    • @XDazzlaX
      @XDazzlaX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The fuel tank takes extra fuel past the full level of the gauge. Even up the filler neck.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Also the gauge is not that linear in all places...

  • @aqibfreed4672
    @aqibfreed4672 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can finally say ! “ das autos “ without being sarcastic 😭 amazing car that

  • @user-uo5jj6st9y
    @user-uo5jj6st9y 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great way to save the planet

  • @nickprince8623
    @nickprince8623 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A BMW B58 engine PCV valve would fail after about an hour, be interesting to see how long it then would run for before it would seize

  • @stevenlee4437
    @stevenlee4437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s one hell of a battery

  • @artfig5340
    @artfig5340 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You also broke the record of the longest starter motor run.

  • @giedriusbruzas6542
    @giedriusbruzas6542 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This makes me wanna buy a golf mk4

  • @Taydrum
    @Taydrum 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now pull the intake manifold and inspect that and the valves.

  • @jakeslogicline1258
    @jakeslogicline1258 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By simply the best engine Volkswagen ever made

  • @bandittelevision
    @bandittelevision 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Starter has left the chat 😅

  • @anthonymillar6183
    @anthonymillar6183 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🤔 don’t think newer diesels would do as good? Or maybe that’s your next test 😜 👍 👍

    • @MichaelFlatman
      @MichaelFlatman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DPF would probably be choked up

    • @YoureSoCreezy
      @YoureSoCreezy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They would crap out after an hour and need a manual dpf burn or mechanical intervention

  • @Mielech-cq9fi
    @Mielech-cq9fi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That hella long starting made me anxious

  • @DivljaVoda
    @DivljaVoda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a monster!!!!

  • @dameon2170
    @dameon2170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me say I had one and let it idle all winter didn't shut it off for 4 months straight to avoid gel up .

  • @MitchZero9
    @MitchZero9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm giving you a thumbs up for the burnout. Even if it was a single pegger

  • @user-fv2yb6pe1i
    @user-fv2yb6pe1i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it is coolant leakage
    not batt acid
    leaking ate the sensor or at the connection above

  • @rambow70
    @rambow70 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do cars have auto start stop if 4 cyl cars can last days without moving the fuel gauge much?

  • @dan8789
    @dan8789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I take it the heater was set to cold?
    As temp gauge stayed at 90°c

    • @herrkulor3771
      @herrkulor3771 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If he wanted to assist the cooling he would heat the interior to maximum to get more of the heat out of the system. The TDI have the problem that they are so efficient that they don't heat enough. That's why all newer TDIs have extra heaters.

  • @Mod-rw9cw
    @Mod-rw9cw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a passat with this engine and it ran for 20 yrs and 295000 miles.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What stopped it?

    • @Mod-rw9cw
      @Mod-rw9cw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rkan2 Nothing I sold it for £500.It’s still knocking around now 4 yrs later . Got a B7 2.0 tdi now

    • @itchyscratch3829
      @itchyscratch3829 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's good, my 20 year old Audi A4 with Passat B5 1.9pd engine is at 271,000 miles so far. Doing just fine for commutingand family running around! Hoping to make 300,000.
      Seen one still running at 500,000. Usually everything else on the car will give up and be uneconomical to repair, long before the engine dies.

    • @Mod-rw9cw
      @Mod-rw9cw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itchyscratch3829 Good luck . Mine was getting too expensive for MOT repairs and needed welding .

  • @MuscleBandit
    @MuscleBandit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My PD130 HATED being sat idling for long periods of time.
    As a security guard working 12hr shifts i had to stay warm that way and after 1 week of this the engine never stooped going into limp mode and made catasrophic noises that sounded worse than a cambelt snapping. Eventually i got sick of it and sold it cheap. It's still on the road somehere now to be fair but i will never know what happened, even my OBD11 reader told me nothing and only helped wipe the engine light of the dash so i could drive normally again. Great engines if you know them inside out but im done with them personally.

  • @Cannapizt
    @Cannapizt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What u think would’ve happen? The engine would not die idle, I don’t get the video ..

  • @Dzichader
    @Dzichader 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine is doing 0,4l so with fully 54l almost 6 days.