VINYL INNER SLEEVES - A GUIDE: HISTORY OF THE INNER, GOOD AND BAD, BUYER'S GUIDE, HINTS & TIPS!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Call them dust bags or plain old bags if you like but I prefer inner sleeves. This video is split into two parts. This is Part One. Part Two is next week.
VIDEO CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
00:35 - Inners: A Brief History
07:18 - Good Boys vs Bad Boys
07:39 - Paper Sleeves
12:37 - Plastic-Only Sleeves
13:06 - Paper Sleeves/Plastic Lining
14:34 - MoFi Type
16:57 - Final Thoughts
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I've used poly/paper lined sleeves since the 70's. Every album I have, 1,200+ albums have them.
Another excellent video Paul. I was saving this to enjoy tonight. For years I’ve used the Mofi ones, so I’ll be interested to see next week’s video. Might even get a single malt ready too. 😊
at 6:00, the paper is "glassine" widely in stamp collecting for storage envelopes, etc
Thanks for this - see my upcoming MoFi video for a thank you name check.
Hmm. I was going to guess it's vellum, similar to tracing paper.
Thank you very much Paul for the excellent advice. Looking forward for part 2. Kindest regards. 🙂
Very good advice Paul.
I have used spincare and MOFI. Spincare are cheaper and I cant see the difference in quality. I put a small sticky label dot on the spincare to establish the right way up. Mofi is obvious
I use spincare…
Regarding the record labels marking their inner sleeves: I have seen many of them do it well into the 80's. Atlantic alternated between the brown The Atlantic Group sleeve and later, the beige one with the Atlantic logo covering most of the sleeve. Mercury Records had some where they promoted the albums of other artists on their roster. Then there were labels who used their paper sleeves to double as the liner notes to list the credits and song lyrics.
Good information for vinyl lovers.👌
I use resealable outer sleeves and I put the record in the ''Japanese'' inner sleeves behind the jacket so no dust for me 😎👍
Exactly what I do in almost all cases this is the best solution in my opinion.
Paul, one thing you didn't mention was the problem of some older polylined inner sleeves which leach a greasy residue over time, giving the appearance of a spider's web on to the record surface which can prove impossible to remove.
I think the Vinyl Storage Solutions inner sleeves are the best ones available. Their outer sleeves are also very good.
i love VSS ... spceial the double pocket (no tab) model .... but after a while i realised that ... that way of storing it takes the double of the shelving space than if you store the vinyl inside the cover !!!! ... as my space it is not ilimited ... i started to use VSS spceially with color vinyl records ... eheheh
but i still think VSS are amazing ...
greetings from POrtugal
VSS, sold as Mint in the U.K., and by Michael 45 in Europe. Different sizes for bespoke labels, eg Tone Poets from Blue Note need a bigger cover.
I have four boxed sets of the Goodall ENO Wagner Ring cycle. Three of the boxes have the records in paper sleeves with plastic film window. The fourth set issued in 1978 (by EMI) and some three years after the previous three sets has plastic film envelopes. The three sets in paper sleeves are plagued with static, enough to lift the felt mat from the turntable. The plastic film sleeves of the six records in the final set have no discernible static and no attracted dust. Paper is bad.
Absolutely.
I use the mofi one but they do crease alot getting record in and out
Hi Paul, I'm not a fan of the term High End with regard to HIFI I understand its use but I'm seeing it where I feel it doesn't belong, what I mean by that is on items that have artificially inflated prices, and of course the term High End is seen to justify that price, I'm not sure where I'm going with this and I'm certainly not expecting you or anyone else to fix this, its in my head for the most part, but it is really happening as I'm sure that you have noticed, loved the video though, had to laugh at the having to wait a week hook, made me smile, thank you 😂
I’ve got that French 10 inch
No problem with the round bottom style used by Blue Note, just need to be careful putting them back in.
Are you planning to cover the use of plastic outer sleeves and how some can damage records over time? I believe the PVC ones can be particularly bad for the records as they age.
I am, yes. Before that though, I plan to publish a feature on MoFi inners and the plethora of ‘clones’ that have popped up all over the place. Just to complete the inner theme. Oh and there’s that review of the newly released inner too that mentioned in the vid.
Once I have enough new records I have a set routine of antistatic clean, new plastic lined inner, new pvc outer, then catalogued on Discogs. I can't say i keep the old paper ones. I honestly can't see them being of value to anyone, if someone had put alloy wheels on a car you were buying, you would want the old plastic wheel trims rattling around in the boot, would you?
Well, I would probably fit the original trims :). As long as they were in decent condition and if not I’d probably source better condition originals. I prefer historical accuracy over later mods. That is, when the item itself is of historical interest. There are exemptions (e.g retro computers) so the metaphor has limited use but if the original inner is seen as part of the original package, as I said in the vid, then I do view it as part of the multi-part package known as the ‘album’.
The Nagaoka are in my experience better than the MoFi when it comes to anti static properties
I keep original inner sleeves and st Kool re them as you I also make comment on my Discogs' Notes.
I recently purchased the 2 disc 180g vinyl 2016 Remastered Pink Floyd "The Division Bell" and was disgusted to find the records had no anti-static protective inner sleeve, just a light cardboard sleeve. How much more can these vinyl manufacturers screw with us, the vinyl buying public, by even cutting out any decent protection for our already overpriced records, all so they can make a few more bucks in profit?
I would like to know the reasoning behind this kind of thing. Is it a form of ignorance of the most innocent kind in which the designers are just not aware of the inner sleeve issue or is it more to do with spending 99% of the packaging budget on the outer sleeves because that what is visible and that’s what people see when considering a purchase? I don’t know.
I prefer the straight “poly-only” sleeve (paired with a sealed outer) to the poly lined paper sleeve because in my experience the poly-only sleeves slide in and out smoothly - whereas paper of any type tend to “catch” on the outer sleeve. Very annoying indeed.
Also I chuck the paper sleeves “straight away” into the bin. Unless the paper sleeve has an intrinsic value (lyrics, ads, album listings, etc.) - in which case I put the paper sleeve into its own poly-only sleeve. This protects the old paper sleeve and also keeps paper dust away.
you didn't mention the dreaded cardboard inner sleeve still in use
Yes, quite true David. Thanks for the reminder.
Hi Paul guessing how many records you have , the actual times they come out to play will be very minimal . So in reality can it do that much damage , if you only play it a couple of times in your lifetime 😂 . But I do understand your reasoning . Best wishes as always 👍👍👍
When I drag out a vinyl record, I tend to live with it for a while. Maybe playing it every day for a couple of weeks, getting to know it for the first time or all over again. Sometimes playing it more than once per day. And storing it after each session. So that’s a lot of abrasion :). In addition to that, this video is not just about me but every other vinyl fan out there whose listening habits might exceed mine in terms of that abrasion.
@@TheAudiophileMan indeed so you’re absolutely right as always , interesting that you keep replaying a record . Will try to do the same , when you think how much effort went into them in the first place it seems only right . Best wishes as always 😀👍👍👍
best inner sleeve is the Ultimate Inner by Sleeve City........mic drop
Best inner sleeves are by ma recordings
Ahh, see next week’s video. :)
@@TheAudiophileMan lol