Good video. I’ve been shooting the VAP TKO’s this past year. I’ll probably try the RIP TKO’s this year. VIDEO IDEA🎥: get a couple Elite shafts (.001 straightness) get a couple Sport shafts (.006 straightness) cut a couple inches off both ends, do the spin test & compare. Then build them up exactly the same & shoot them to see if the Elites actually shoot better than the Sports. Thx MFJJ
Totally agree. Love Victory mainly for their components. I think the RIPs are easier to tune than the VAPs, so I choose RIPs. Also the "ICE" coating on all the TKO arrows makes it easier to pull out of targets. I only wish these came with the stainless inserts.
I love these arrows..I'd been using many different arrows for over 20 years and finally built a dozen of these cut to 28'' with the 75gr up front and three vane X3s at 3deg. 476gr with a 100gr BH... PERFECT ARROW
Just built a dozen of these for my new Arrows this year. Sitting at 503 grains using the steel 60 grain insert with a 125 grain point. Unfortunately i can't cut them down due to having a 31 1/2 inch draw.
I love the Victory RIP TKO. I just put in a decent order to stock my shop for spring. We just got in some of the new G5 arrows as well at my shop. They look very similar to the Victory TKO arrows, but the .203 dia shafts use a bushing and reduce the nock to a pin nock or G nock. I'm not a fan of the G nocks for hunting. Plus the 350 spine in the G5 is 10.1 gpi. I was only able to test out a 1/2 dz of factory fletched G5, still waiting for the bare shafts. I'll look forward to your thoughts on the G5 shafts when you can get some.
The exact arrow I have. Really do like these arrows, I have always wondered how accurate the spine alignment is on these. That being said, these are awesome arrows and tough as nails.
I loved these arrows until I shot fixed blades… they just wouldn’t tune so I went with the 300 spine in a black eagle rampage and straight darts with the same weight set up. I had to nock tune all of them but it was well worth the work. Funny thing is I tuned a buddy of mines bow and he bought these from me and had no problem lol. I’ve often wondered if the spine was just on the edge even at a 300 spine for my setup whereas the 300 black eagles were maybe stiffer albeit the same spine 🤷♂️.
MFJJs titanium insert/outsert has the same OD as RIP TKO. You can also use Gold Tip traditional inserts or their .204 Airstrike Ballistic inserts as well.
All I know is the nocks that came on my 4mm victory’s where absolutely way too tight on my v3x the would pull out of the arrow when on the bow. But the shafts where good. Now I moved over to the Gt airstrikes and will be rolling with those this season.
Love the channel! Excuse my ignorance. Why would I pick the RIP TKO over the RIP SS? Pros and cons to both? I’m a big picture guy. And the performance guide on their website is virtually identical with the RIP SS having a little higher rating for penetration… any info helps
I looked on the Podium website for the podium inserts for the RIP TKO's Dan from Elk shape mentioned, when will these be available for purchase? Keep up the great content!
Got a spine question for you, im shooting a Bear Legit, 70lbs, 29" draw, arrow is actually 28" carbon to carbon, 100gr insert, 125gr point, lighted nock, 3 fletch. Going to be using fixed blade heads. Should i use 300 or 250? I have been shooting 300 bc the chart shows 340 but 225 gr is a lot of point weight so i went up one spine. Would 250 be better bc its better to be too stiff than too weak?
What is your bow set up? Trying to decide on .250 or .300s I’m shooting a Mathews vxr at 72lbs and a 28.5 inch draw length. I like my arrows a bit on the longer side to get fixed blade broad heads away from my fingers
@@Boatflipit i shoot a Prime Inline 5 82 lbs at 29.5 draw length. With the victory Vap 250 with 45 grsin insert and 125 grain tip about 28 shaft length 475 grains total im borderline underspined. I haven't built the Rip Tkos yet but when i do it will be about 28.5- 29 inch shaft, 50 grain titanium insert from podium archer, 125 grain tip. At your draw length and weight i think that you can use the 300 spine but if your worried about leaving the shaft longer then get the 250s. I That might be the set up that Dan @ elk shape has with the 300 spine, 50 grain titanium insert and a 125 point. Either way I'm sure if you call these guys at podium archer they can steer you in the right direction. I like to run on the stiffer side.
@@christiantorres6118 awesome thanks for the reply. I feel like I should be able to get away with .300 spine also I just don’t want to end up with 200 bucks worth of arrows and be underspined. I’ll give them a call.
This will take time but would be SICK! Test the new Gas Pro NACA vanes vs whatever you guys think is the best. The NACA's are pretty slick. Designed to spin left with no helical. Up to 400% more rotation. Hooter shooter 100 yards!!!!!! DOOO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just built a set of Elites to hunt with from you guys. These shafts are straight! Maybe had one with a slight wobble on the spin tester. Fixed it with my squaring tool (also from you guys!). Weight was near identical down to the 100th. Also, shipping was quick and got to Hawaii in three days. Mahalo MFJJ! Gonna order another set of Gamers this time around for target shooting. ***Easton Axis 5mm 300spine is 10.7gpi and a little thicker compared to RIP TKOs.
I agree the fletching and broadhead make a difference. I also think a heaver arrow makes the initial sound of the bow less as well I’d like to see both.
I'd like to see some videos that compare the ez fletch high helical vs bitz 2-3 degrees at that 100+ distances you see at TAC. Does too much helical at distance?
Mfjj do you recommend the rip tko over the rip xv from victory I ask because I was sold on the rip xv but looking for a change I think this hunting season
These arrows, their SS inserts and TAC Driver vanes are a great set up. The TAC Drivers are a little lighter than most vanes, so you can drop some weight and increase FOC.
@@mitchimal nice to hear I wanted to switch up from my blazers this year with this exact arrow. Do you shoot fixed blades? The TAC drivers steer alright?
Try an Easton Brass insert. Weighs 75 grains. Gets you a little more FOC and you can run it with a sleeve to get even more FOC and protects the end of the arrow shaft.
Hi Josh/ what is the full length of the shaft- there website shows 31 in for the full length shaft- if that is the case 283g average weight yields 9.12gpi not 8.8.
I shoot these with an easton 75 grain brass insert and a 25 grain sleeve with a 125 grain broadhead. With a wrap, veins and nocturnal im right around 550 grains.
Definitely will be my go again this year hands down kills & shoots great weather I am shooting 359’s or 300’s depending on draw weight and animal as well!!!!
I shoot the Rip xv elites. 300 spine 7.1gpi 28.5” carbon to carbon 24 grain lighted knock 18 grains of fletchings 140 of ethics outsert and a 125 grain tip. Comes out to 509-510 total at just over 20% foc. So far they hold up really well the only broke ones have been from a deer stepping on it after it went through another deer.
I’m interested in these arrows, their spine chart is telling me .300. Every other spine chart tells me .250. 70/29.5 30” arrow 50 gr insert 100-150 gr head, will I be ok with .300 spine?
This is so cool, was just looking for more info on these arrows, how do they come out if you use your titanium insert at 28in.. and lighted nock.. and witch lighted nock to use in them.. you know x nock or different
I believe he means shoot the cheaper, not as straight, shafts with field points, and shoot the straight shafts with broadheads. A lot of people shoot fixed heads, and that is when your shaft needs to be perfectly straight. If the arrow has wobble the fixed blade (wings on the front of your shaft) with steer your arrow.
To know if your limb bolts are the same. You turn the bolts all the down. Then the bow is maxed out. The bolts are the same. Then you can take a 1 turn at a time. To no how far your limb bolts are backed out.
@@liamboyle9199his right here. Max in (usually clockwise to get max poundage) and witness marks with a silver sharpie or white out. Then you can turn them out evenly.
It’s what i went with last year and they were sweet! Straight out of the box…no wobble. Btw, re: spine alignment…..i had one arrow that was not marked right. Rotated the arrow 1/4 turn and it was good
Ya don’t trust the spine align on the shaft 3 out of my 12 arrows were accurate according to that. Other than that my favorite arrow I run these and won’t be changing anytime soon
Mathews should make a bow ,,, just like the v3x 33 with the lower poundege ,,, 45 -55,,, ,,, why did they shorten up the Image ,, ATA ,,, or are they waiting tell next year to do it ?? A perfect bow would be a v3x 34 with an " 34 ATA" ,, and a draw # of 45-55 ,,,, I would buy one tomorrow ,,,
Outside of all those qualities that you mentioned the other reason why they are your best seller is because one of your best friends in Dan from @elkshape has been using those and promoting them for 2-3 years now. I actually got a dozen of the Gamer level ones which are the .003 straightness level ones for about $159 a dozen. I had them cut at Cabelas and I forgot to tell them not to glue in the SHOK inserts. I wanted to add 20 grains to the back of 6 of them or buy your titanium inserts and glue them in myself. I really like them and hopefully I can get a turkey 🦃 this spring and some deer 🦌 this fall since I struck out last year 😎🏹
Anyone else have single speaker issues when using headphones on these videos ? I noticed the intro is working with headphones but some of the videos lately for me and single ear
Pls, you fixed the sounds but now again every video has audio only on left channel, thats really really hard to listen with headphones. I hope you fix it again, ask help from elk shape, not difficult to fix.
Hands down amazing arrows. I use these for white tail deer and haven’t broke one yet. Actually spit a small tree during a pass through and no splintering.
Love your intro feels like watching the outdoor channel or something in the 90s growing up
Good video. I’ve been shooting the VAP TKO’s this past year. I’ll probably try the RIP TKO’s this year. VIDEO IDEA🎥: get a couple Elite shafts (.001 straightness) get a couple Sport shafts (.006 straightness) cut a couple inches off both ends, do the spin test & compare. Then build them up exactly the same & shoot them to see if the Elites actually shoot better than the Sports. Thx MFJJ
Definitely would like to see that!
The fact they get the arrow weight to be that close and consistent is wild!
These are definitely the build I’m going to make for my new rig!
Totally agree. Love Victory mainly for their components. I think the RIPs are easier to tune than the VAPs, so I choose RIPs. Also the "ICE" coating on all the TKO arrows makes it easier to pull out of targets. I only wish these came with the stainless inserts.
I love these arrows..I'd been using many different arrows for over 20 years and finally built a dozen of these cut to 28'' with the 75gr up front and three vane X3s at 3deg. 476gr with a 100gr BH... PERFECT ARROW
I’m would love to see you do a full Review on your TAC arrow of choice the RIP EV and their hunting/long range application vs. the RIP TKO.
I shoot BE Spartans at the moment but my next batch I buy will be these. Love watching your content.
Just built a dozen of these for my new Arrows this year. Sitting at 503 grains using the steel 60 grain insert with a 125 grain point. Unfortunately i can't cut them down due to having a 31 1/2 inch draw.
The SS inserts from Victory mentioned are half outs right? Would be great to show a screen grab of this component to clarify.
Cheers
was wondering when this was going to come out. already got me a dozen for this year and absolutely love them!
Love these arrows! you guys are the reason I started using them. thank for the awesome content!
I was looking for this review just two weeks ago and thought I just couldn’t find it. This explains it.
Thanks for this review! Ive been trying o decide between these and Vector (soon to be modern) definitely leaning this way
I love the Victory RIP TKO. I just put in a decent order to stock my shop for spring. We just got in some of the new G5 arrows as well at my shop. They look very similar to the Victory TKO arrows, but the .203 dia shafts use a bushing and reduce the nock to a pin nock or G nock. I'm not a fan of the G nocks for hunting. Plus the 350 spine in the G5 is 10.1 gpi. I was only able to test out a 1/2 dz of factory fletched G5, still waiting for the bare shafts. I'll look forward to your thoughts on the G5 shafts when you can get some.
I'd love to see you test the Sirius arrows esoescially the 4mm Orions.
The exact arrow I have. Really do like these arrows, I have always wondered how accurate the spine alignment is on these. That being said, these are awesome arrows and tough as nails.
Thinking about switching from Easton axis to these.
@Brett Barr they are definitely a good quality arrow. I would say they are like the Ferrari of arrows.
I loved these arrows until I shot fixed blades… they just wouldn’t tune so I went with the 300 spine in a black eagle rampage and straight darts with the same weight set up. I had to nock tune all of them but it was well worth the work. Funny thing is I tuned a buddy of mines bow and he bought these from me and had no problem lol. I’ve often wondered if the spine was just on the edge even at a 300 spine for my setup whereas the 300 black eagles were maybe stiffer albeit the same spine 🤷♂️.
Can you please do a video on the entire arrow build and tuning process you do when building arrows for hunting?
Some info/video with this shaft and your titanium insert would be awesome!!
MFJJs titanium insert/outsert has the same OD as RIP TKO. You can also use Gold Tip traditional inserts or their .204 Airstrike Ballistic inserts as well.
Thanks I bought Easton long range axis 4mm from you. Maybe I’ll get these to try out next.
All I know is the nocks that came on my 4mm victory’s where absolutely way too tight on my v3x the would pull out of the arrow when on the bow. But the shafts where good. Now I moved over to the Gt airstrikes and will be rolling with those this season.
Love the channel! Excuse my ignorance. Why would I pick the RIP TKO over the RIP SS? Pros and cons to both? I’m a big picture guy. And the performance guide on their website is virtually identical with the RIP SS having a little higher rating for penetration… any info helps
I looked on the Podium website for the podium inserts for the RIP TKO's Dan from Elk shape mentioned, when will these be available for purchase? Keep up the great content!
I'm looking to run those this year. Good review and look forward to watching more.
Got a spine question for you, im shooting a Bear Legit, 70lbs, 29" draw, arrow is actually 28" carbon to carbon, 100gr insert, 125gr point, lighted nock, 3 fletch. Going to be using fixed blade heads. Should i use 300 or 250? I have been shooting 300 bc the chart shows 340 but 225 gr is a lot of point weight so i went up one spine. Would 250 be better bc its better to be too stiff than too weak?
About time haha, a accuracy test of the sports vs elites would be cool, long range and broadheads
6 of the 12 in the rip tko elite dozen that i just bought wobbled on the knock end and 1 on both ends. 5 were straight. Just my experience with them.
I glad you finally reviewed these!
How 'bout an Epsilon video? Or maybe an arrow rest side by side comparison from the 'top dogs'???
So funny. I just ordered a set of Rip Tkos 250 spine and some Aae max stealth1 hr ago from your website. I appreciate your videos.
What is your bow set up? Trying to decide on .250 or .300s I’m shooting a Mathews vxr at 72lbs and a 28.5 inch draw length. I like my arrows a bit on the longer side to get fixed blade broad heads away from my fingers
@@Boatflipit i shoot a Prime Inline 5 82 lbs at 29.5 draw length. With the victory Vap 250 with 45 grsin insert and 125 grain tip about 28 shaft length 475 grains total im borderline underspined. I haven't built the Rip Tkos yet but when i do it will be about 28.5- 29 inch shaft, 50 grain titanium insert from podium archer, 125 grain tip. At your draw length and weight i think that you can use the 300 spine but if your worried about leaving the shaft longer then get the 250s. I That might be the set up that Dan @ elk shape has with the 300 spine, 50 grain titanium insert and a 125 point. Either way I'm sure if you call these guys at podium archer they can steer you in the right direction. I like to run on the stiffer side.
@@christiantorres6118 awesome thanks for the reply. I feel like I should be able to get away with .300 spine also I just don’t want to end up with 200 bucks worth of arrows and be underspined. I’ll give them a call.
I would love to see some content breaking down RIP TKO direct competition!!
Good job. Like those RIP TKOs
This will take time but would be SICK!
Test the new Gas Pro NACA vanes vs whatever you guys think is the best.
The NACA's are pretty slick.
Designed to spin left with no helical.
Up to 400% more rotation.
Hooter shooter 100 yards!!!!!!
DOOO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys just shipped me a dozen today, thank you
Just built a set of Elites to hunt with from you guys. These shafts are straight! Maybe had one with a slight wobble on the spin tester. Fixed it with my squaring tool (also from you guys!). Weight was near identical down to the 100th. Also, shipping was quick and got to Hawaii in three days. Mahalo MFJJ! Gonna order another set of Gamers this time around for target shooting.
***Easton Axis 5mm 300spine is 10.7gpi and a little thicker compared to RIP TKOs.
What island? I'd like to see your build. I just put together some VAP TKO Elites this year. Gonna use them after hunting season in Lanai.
These were the first ever arrows I bought and built last year. Love them!!!
Is that with a 100 or 125grain tip?
MFJJ, you the man!…Hoping soon you’ll review the Dialed Archery Arxos sight. We need to know if it gets the MFJJ stamp.
I’d like to see how deferent weight arrows affect bow sound. Like does a 400 grain arrow make your bow louder than a 500+ grain arrow.
I’d like to see this as well. However I think majority of the sound comes from the type broadhead and fletching.
I agree the fletching and broadhead make a difference. I also think a heaver arrow makes the initial sound of the bow less as well I’d like to see both.
Lighter is always louder
For sure I’m curious by how much.
@@mikelmckinney 3 - 5 dbs quieter min depends on DL , bow # too
Always enjoy your content Mr Jones.
31.5 inch draw. I'm cutting how much off those 31 inch arrows again??
I'd like to see some videos that compare the ez fletch high helical vs bitz 2-3 degrees at that 100+ distances you see at TAC. Does too much helical at distance?
Would love to see an Airstrike vs RIP TKO video / .204 arrow shoot off
Mfjj do you recommend the rip tko over the rip xv from victory I ask because I was sold on the rip xv but looking for a change I think this hunting season
These arrows, their SS inserts and TAC Driver vanes are a great set up. The TAC Drivers are a little lighter than most vanes, so you can drop some weight and increase FOC.
They're unbeatable vanes, stiff as, strong as and light for a long profile. Also never had one come off from a field trip hitting one at the back
@@mitchimal nice to hear I wanted to switch up from my blazers this year with this exact arrow. Do you shoot fixed blades? The TAC drivers steer alright?
@@Boatflipit yeah fixed 2 and 3 blades, they are fantastic at steering
Try an Easton Brass insert. Weighs 75 grains. Gets you a little more FOC and you can run it with a sleeve to get even more FOC and protects the end of the arrow shaft.
It would be cool to have a video about stiff vs flexible vanes when it comes to flight, noise, and penetration resistance
Hi Josh/ what is the full length of the shaft- there website shows 31 in for the full length shaft- if that is the case 283g average weight yields 9.12gpi not 8.8.
You prolly didn’t think about the weight of the nock
Great video. May seem silly but I would remove the nocks when weighing. Could easily be more inconsistency in a nock than arrow to arrow.
Thank you for the great information
Have you done a review on the altra arrows yet I haven’t seen if you have
I shoot these with an easton 75 grain brass insert and a 25 grain sleeve with a 125 grain broadhead. With a wrap, veins and nocturnal im right around 550 grains.
Love this channel!
Love your content but can you check the 🎤 the last couple videos had poor sound
Can you do a review on the RIP XV’s? They look like great arrows but I’m curious about your thoughts.
Can you do a review on the victory rip xv?
is the FOC % you mentioned including a lighted nock?
Definitely will be my go again this year hands down kills & shoots great weather I am shooting 359’s or 300’s depending on draw weight and animal as well!!!!
Have you ever reviewed any APA bows?
Check to see if the spine alignment from them are correct.
I shoot the Rip xv elites. 300 spine 7.1gpi 28.5” carbon to carbon 24 grain lighted knock 18 grains of fletchings 140 of ethics outsert and a 125 grain tip. Comes out to 509-510 total at just over 20% foc. So far they hold up really well the only broke ones have been from a deer stepping on it after it went through another deer.
Is the weight of the arrow with the broadhead or without?
I’m interested in these arrows, their spine chart is telling me .300. Every other spine chart tells me .250.
70/29.5 30” arrow 50 gr insert 100-150 gr head, will I be ok with .300 spine?
have you done any testing to see if the .006 rival the .003 or .001 at a hunting length if cut from both ends?
This is so cool, was just looking for more info on these arrows, how do they come out if you use your titanium insert at 28in.. and lighted nock.. and witch lighted nock to use in them.. you know x nock or different
Sirius Gemini are woven .204 diameter similar gpi with ethics inserts.
Still love me some rip tkos though.
Just bought a dozen of these arrows to custom make will let you now how they do
Could you explain a little better buying the better (V1) for hunting and getting the worse (V6) for hunting when as you just said, they fly the same?
I believe he means shoot the cheaper, not as straight, shafts with field points, and shoot the straight shafts with broadheads. A lot of people shoot fixed heads, and that is when your shaft needs to be perfectly straight. If the arrow has wobble the fixed blade (wings on the front of your shaft) with steer your arrow.
Best arrows I've ever shot! Very durable and I can get my FOC up to 20% so they hit like a semi truck.
How and what components did you use?
Have to ask about the rip xv and why we don’t see those more are they just too fragile?
Can you go into the arrow build a little more to make that 15%
When you go to cut them would you cut from both sides or from the front?
Are you gonna be doing a review on your insert system
Love RIP TKO’s. How about testing some Athens Archery bows?
MFJJ do you think the RIP SS might be a hair better by any chance???
Have 12 waiting for my new bow to come in...is the spine indexing mark the weakest or strongest place in the spine?
Review the VAP TKO
Like the content. Could you do something on limb bolts. How do you know if they are set the same or does it not matter? Thanks
To know if your limb bolts are the same. You turn the bolts all the down. Then the bow is maxed out. The bolts are the same. Then you can take a 1 turn at a time. To no how far your limb bolts are backed out.
Max them out and ALWAYS put a reference mark to make adjustments a lot easier
@@liamboyle9199his right here. Max in (usually clockwise to get max poundage) and witness marks with a silver sharpie or white out. Then you can turn them out evenly.
It’s what i went with last year and they were sweet! Straight out of the box…no wobble. Btw, re: spine alignment…..i had one arrow that was not marked right. Rotated the arrow 1/4 turn and it was good
Why doesn’t Easton spine align?
How do they stack up against the Easton Axis?
Ya don’t trust the spine align on the shaft 3 out of my 12 arrows were accurate according to that. Other than that my favorite arrow I run these and won’t be changing anytime soon
What is a good starting point for my arrow rest?
Best hunting arrow on the planet!
Mathews should make a bow ,,, just like the v3x 33 with the lower poundege ,,, 45 -55,,, ,,, why did they shorten up the Image ,, ATA ,,, or are they waiting tell next year to do it ?? A perfect bow would be a v3x 34 with an " 34 ATA" ,, and a draw # of 45-55 ,,,, I would buy one tomorrow ,,,
A thousand grain arrow made a Onieda Screaming Eagle almost silent, just a low grunt
Just built a dozen with your titanium half outs and Ironwill collars. Things are money.
You da Man !
When are they gunna make a 200 spine?
Outside of all those qualities that you mentioned the other reason why they are your best seller is because one of your best friends in Dan from @elkshape has been using those and promoting them for 2-3 years now.
I actually got a dozen of the Gamer level ones which are the .003 straightness level ones for about $159 a dozen.
I had them cut at Cabelas and I forgot to tell them not to glue in the SHOK inserts. I wanted to add 20 grains to the back of 6 of them or buy your titanium inserts and glue them in myself.
I really like them and hopefully I can get a turkey 🦃 this spring and some deer 🦌 this fall since I struck out last year 😎🏹
Anyone else have single speaker issues when using headphones on these videos ? I noticed the intro is working with headphones but some of the videos lately for me and single ear
Elk shape sent me over to your channel
Why the RIP over the VAP TKO’s?
Is that FOC estimate with the full 31” arrow?
I believe he always does it all for 28 inch Arrow
Do you accept bows shipped to you to work on?
Yep
@@podiumarcher3447 how can we get in contact to set it up?
@@podiumarcher3447 I found a link to your website and emailed you.
Still makes me laugh when he thinks he can see a thousandth movement 😂
love them arrows
Your mic audio needs to be sorted. Only on the left channel again. Make it mono or double the track to be stereo.
Pls, you fixed the sounds but now again every video has audio only on left channel, thats really really hard to listen with headphones. I hope you fix it again, ask help from elk shape, not difficult to fix.
That a Benchmade bugout Mr jj
They OK....I own 4 dozens of rips and alot of other brands the best arrow I own for hunting are my Gold Tip KINETIC PIERCE PLATINUM arrows
Was thinking of going gt kinctic pierce if these don't make me happy that will be next
But liked how if you buy from them they come with ss insert and I think there insert process is better than gold tip but both are great arrows
Hands down amazing arrows. I use these for white tail deer and haven’t broke one yet. Actually spit a small tree during a pass through and no splintering.