We NEED To Talk About The Boss in MGS3 Remake...

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  • @PythonSelkan
    @PythonSelkan  หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Do you like The Boss's new design in MGS: Delta Snake Eater? 🤔
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    • @Klartraumprofi
      @Klartraumprofi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Her mouth somehow reminds of Clifford Unger 😂

    • @cFull_Rtrd
      @cFull_Rtrd หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She looks great!

    • @LucLightWolf121
      @LucLightWolf121 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      No, sir. I don't like it.

    • @BubbzyAlRiyadh
      @BubbzyAlRiyadh หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i actually like her more.. when i first saw her i was like nah 😃

    • @afcvigilante9274
      @afcvigilante9274 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@cFull_Rtrd I agree she looks like has actually been through battle I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of the cobra unit

  • @GizmoMcs
    @GizmoMcs หลายเดือนก่อน +382

    think the hair being darker is what is giving her a different feel, her bright blonde hair made her pop more

    • @Mcpblackheart
      @Mcpblackheart หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      in a game with unrealistic lighting her hi albido colors popped but in Realistic lighting she would not look much better

    • @sticc.5483
      @sticc.5483 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Maybe my eyes are just bad but when I look at the side of her head, there’s some hair that’s properly illuminated and imo it looks blonde. I think the darkness she’s in is what makes her hair seem darker.

    • @FalconHgv
      @FalconHgv หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sticc.5483yeah, that's most likely it. Does the remake have PBR? Cs2 has had similar problems with its lighting in skins. It's kinda jarring seeing the difference because the ps2 version has this colored filter all over the game. Kinda like how they made the forest not 200% green.

    • @12-8O-SMLE
      @12-8O-SMLE หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blonde hair looked terrible on her. It made her looked washed out/faded.

    • @Kohchu
      @Kohchu หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@12-8O-SMLE The Boss is literally a washed out/faded, emotionally empty Soldier... how is this a bad thing? She's not supposed to look attractive, she's supposed to look like somebody who has gone through hell and back for the sake of the mission.

  • @qg786
    @qg786 หลายเดือนก่อน +284

    I think they need to make her hair blonde rather than brunette. It's what made her stand out more. If Ocelot's hair is blonde her hair should also be the same shade of blonde.

    • @hylianro
      @hylianro หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      It is most definitely not brunette. This is just a realistic lighting issue.

    • @AvatarJian
      @AvatarJian หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      There is such a thing as dirty blonde hair which blondes get as they age.

    • @Yokyle4356
      @Yokyle4356 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel the same way

    • @DarthDragon007
      @DarthDragon007 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AvatarJian It's the opposite for my. My Blonde hair turned Brunette.

    • @Bori.1776
      @Bori.1776 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s literally blonde.

  • @TheNamesMoose30
    @TheNamesMoose30 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    There's only room for one boss

    • @user-ov3bs8wp6j
      @user-ov3bs8wp6j หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      And one snake

    • @PatrickRheinmen
      @PatrickRheinmen หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The world needs only one big boss

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Okay, let's get this straight. Nobody ever said "world"..
      "There's only room for one Boss, and one Snake" - The Boss
      ..
      "There's room for only one Snake, and one Big Boss!" - Liquid Ocelot

    • @ukilledmydog
      @ukilledmydog หลายเดือนก่อน

      the world would be better without bosses or snakes​@@PatrickRheinmen

    • @Evin07
      @Evin07 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@subtegral "The world needs only one Big Boss!! I'll drown you fools for interfering!!" - Solidus Snake

  • @thehorrorvoid
    @thehorrorvoid หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    In my opinion, as a life-long MGS fan, when I first saw the Boss reveal, I never once found her new model off putting in the slightest. I don't know why, but I really do like her new model. She looks tired and depressed, which is what I always imagined her new model to look like, given her age and the countless wars she's seen.

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Given her age? She's only 42. It's not the age, it's the miles.
      She gave up. She hoped Snake would keep the Soviet Legacy and reunite the Philosophers, but instead Snake simply handed it over to the CIA during his mission debriefing.
      She had an overwhelming charisma that the CIA feared, and she knew they wanted her dead. So she put down her gun and died without a fight. Fulfilling a corrupt mission. A betrayal that Snake realized ten years later when he threw her bandana into the lake and finally accepted the title of being her successor, Big Boss.

    • @thehorrorvoid
      @thehorrorvoid หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@subtegral Exactly. She looks like a 42 year old woman in my opinion.

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thehorrorvoid how old are you? 17?

    • @thehorrorvoid
      @thehorrorvoid หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@subtegral 30

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน

      42 year olds can't look attractive then? They gotta look old and ugly?

  • @RonnieMyers777
    @RonnieMyers777 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I remember her being blonde, light blonde

    • @BerryNiceToMeetYou
      @BerryNiceToMeetYou หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She is blonde, it just looks darker because of the lighting and shadow.

    • @AuraSanatrix
      @AuraSanatrix 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and looking like a chick

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    First I thought this doesn't look like the Boss, but more I checked the details on her face, I began thinking this is how she was supposed to look in the first place (if PS2 was able). She looks worn, tortured and hardened. Her new look also shows her age more appropriately. She has a warrior's face now instead of a Hollywood star. I can easily say from her expression she's ready to sacrifice what remains of her.

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Good summary. I completely agree.

    • @suza3199
      @suza3199 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I loved the boss' original look, genuinely, but I agree with you. This is how she's supposed to look. She is a soldier in her 40s, not a model.
      Anywho, the trailer played with the contrast, so keep that also in mind.

    • @axt2
      @axt2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      100% agree. In the original she looked incredibly young for who she was. We can debate to what degree this was an artistic choice vs. technical limitations but to me she looks a lot more authentic here.

    • @skyfallxsyz7072
      @skyfallxsyz7072 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree.

    • @JoeyJoJo85
      @JoeyJoJo85 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@suza3199 she's a soldier in her 50s

  • @JaredAF
    @JaredAF หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I did think the model of the Boss didn't look right, glad I wasn't the only one.

    • @neet_life_ftw
      @neet_life_ftw 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ESG face has unsold this game don’t expect EVA to be hot either lmao

  • @MamoMark
    @MamoMark หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The only thing that I prefer over the original is the thousand yard stare she has now. To me, it looks she's really seen some shit now. But overall I don't mind the change, she looks good.

  • @SpiritOfParadox
    @SpiritOfParadox หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    The Boss face looks younger, imo In OG MGS 3, she looked 40 - 50s. But her nose is off. I hope they don't screw up her white suit design.

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      That white suit is a cutting edge Soviet female sneaking suit, and was probably a gift to her from Volgin for joining him.

    • @jackplisken4738
      @jackplisken4738 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      its the man chin

    • @daveshif2514
      @daveshif2514 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@subtegrali always thought it was meant to be a flight suit

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daveshif2514 nope.
      Besides, a flight suit for what?

    • @nickoftime5759
      @nickoftime5759 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@subtegral when she went to outer space? 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @sengyew83
    @sengyew83 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    I'm with you on this, she looks good in Delta, but can be even better with some tweaks.

  • @nex-ex5100
    @nex-ex5100 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Keep in mind the boss is suppose to be in her 40's or 50's. PS2 couldn't really show that level of detail.

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      She's 42.

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      ​@@subtegral 42 but fought in WW2 over 20 years ago and became elite soldier... so, probably aged a bit more quickly than some hollywood models

    • @nex-ex5100
      @nex-ex5100 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@SuperGeronimo999 Yeah, exactly. Grunt years are like dog years. lol

    • @Onmysheet
      @Onmysheet หลายเดือนก่อน

      Similar to the OG Resident Evil 4 of Salazar. He looks like a kid, but he gets called as old.

    • @introvertboricua787
      @introvertboricua787 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She should be about that old she's supposed to be Ocelot's mom

  • @urbanberlin
    @urbanberlin หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    she doesn't look bad but I think a bit off..

    • @TheFivegoodemperors
      @TheFivegoodemperors หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It’s the same thing Deadspace remake with Nicole, when theres multiple gens apart, the characters look off from what’s so similar to us.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@TheFivegoodemperors Nicole was based off her Dead Space 2 model where she looked older.

    • @David-rk2cw
      @David-rk2cw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looks like a man slightly

    • @guyman8742
      @guyman8742 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WllKiedSnakefurther on that point her looking older actually made more sense, in the original she looked way younger than Issac and that made it a little weird they were dating

    • @AuraSanatrix
      @AuraSanatrix 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they made her more masculine.

  • @miguelribeiro1601
    @miguelribeiro1601 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think Snake's face is pretty different too, there's a lot of traits the typical Snake face has that aren't there

    • @jamesrevere2992
      @jamesrevere2992 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The “typical snake face”? You mean solid snake? This isn’t him, they shouldn’t look 100% identical

  • @ButtaMilkBiscuitsGaming
    @ButtaMilkBiscuitsGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have to agree Python. Hopefully they will do a little more tweaks to her face before the full game is released.

  • @MetalGearTrav
    @MetalGearTrav หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    “Hi Mrs Boss is snake around?”
    *Long sigh as she puffs a cigarette
    “He’s inside.”

  • @carlosguzman17
    @carlosguzman17 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    2:35 never thought of mgs4 snake resemblence to this current iteration
    You have a keen eye
    Great observation

  • @averageanimefanboy9473
    @averageanimefanboy9473 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In my opinion the old design was more iconic and suited the MGS tone more. Almost all the good guys in this franchise are looking like models wich make them stand out. Most of the japaneses games made in the early 2000 had very glamorous characters including MGS.
    For exemple the guy who made the Silent Hill 2 models was working like a psychopath to change every detail he didn't like because he wanted very good looking models.
    At least the model is not "cheap" looking like the models in the SH2 remake trailers where either the design and the visual quality are bad.

  • @lokouba
    @lokouba หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I don't think your analysis is too accurate.
    In MGS3 her eyes are bigger and her nosebone (eye separation) is thinner. Her lips are a little thicker and less wide and her jaw bones are wider.
    The biggest difference in Delta is that her chin is a lot bigger and i would say kinda bulkier while in MGS3 it's way smaller and sharper. I think toning down her chin alone and making her hair a vibrant blond will make her look a lot better. The other changes are fine on their own.

    • @AmelpsXett
      @AmelpsXett หลายเดือนก่อน

      lmao the chin is almost absolutely the same. Its actually bigger in the ps2 version, how are people so blind?
      At this point you can just start doing eugenics

    • @Gareth-1000
      @Gareth-1000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup the more I look at it it’s definitely around the chin jaw line area, it’s too bulky looking. Fix that and everything else is spot on 👌🏻

    • @RickGrimes807
      @RickGrimes807 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You make some good points i agree.
      I'm under the impression that a major change is that the remake toned down her severe look. She looks less severe by the shape in her eyes, the expression in her eyes/facial expression as well as mouth shape.
      What do you think?

    • @lokouba
      @lokouba หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RickGrimes807 i don't particulary think her expression changed much cause tbh she kinda always looked like she's dead inside. The changes to her mouth shape in my opinion don't make her look worse.

    • @luckyrockmore2796
      @luckyrockmore2796 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blocky jaws on female characters in gaming are the trend now

  • @brandonperkins176
    @brandonperkins176 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Boss looks like Glenn Close in 1987 Fatal Attraction! Regardless this game is looking awesome

  • @sonsofbiscuits1
    @sonsofbiscuits1 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I said the same in a different video. Even though this version looks more hardened, the original has a certain look in her eyes that made her so intimidating. She actually looked like the boss in every scene, and even had Volgin stepping backwards in fear. This version looks tough, and hardened by war, but the original looks like a genuine leader and authority figure.

    • @duncanmacleod7287
      @duncanmacleod7287 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is what happens when there's no Kojima supervising.

  • @Vladysluv
    @Vladysluv หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I think that her face looks much longer

  • @ChampionLeake789
    @ChampionLeake789 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys are so close to 100k subs!
    I've been watching this channel for a long while and have seen it grown.
    I can't wait for the game to release to hear more secrets and theories from you guys.
    Keep up the great work.

    • @PythonSelkan
      @PythonSelkan  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @joecoriander9011
    @joecoriander9011 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When I initially saw the Boss I felt like something was off for sure. I think they can definitly do something a bit more faithful to the original. The hair color, the narrowness of the face. Otherwise super excited for the remake of one of my favorite games of all time!

  • @THEKL7773
    @THEKL7773 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i just feel like shes not blond enoght i always saw her as almost straight up having golden hair

  • @Shotcalm
    @Shotcalm หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    She looks fine in my opinion.

    • @jokkemannen96
      @jokkemannen96 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      same

    • @miraclemartins6128
      @miraclemartins6128 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@jokkemannen96this ppl just complain about nothing 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @SaberRexZealot
      @SaberRexZealot หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah and it’s only one shot. The lighting is probably different in other scenes. This game looks remarkably faithful so far.
      I bet people will lose their minds when they see EVA, and complain about Sweet Baby Inc nerfing her lol. Gamers being gamers.

    • @fersnake
      @fersnake หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      yeah, but the internet being internet. ppl just love tho bitch about everything even a game its not even released.

    • @DayHikari-fj5fk
      @DayHikari-fj5fk หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      His not complaining his saying it can be done better due to how well previous versions were made. The new technology can do better than that

  • @2Good2BeTrue45
    @2Good2BeTrue45 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The Boss was never meant to have soft features, Boss always had a more structured jaw and clearly had no buccal fat, so she was meant to look more older to pull off the hardened badass look. I always personally felt they wanted to model The Boss after the bodybuilder Cory Everson, who played Atalanta in Hercules The Legendary Journeys. Cory Everson would have made a great live action The Boss
    I feel thats why they made EVA like they did. To have a character that is literally meant to be the smokeshow, apple of your eye, all American girl achetype, which is why she is able to fool everyone in the game and end up being a double agent.

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that doesn't make the new remake's design better

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think the look is whatever Kojima wanted it to be. Hence why The Boss looks like she does in the original.

  • @MisterBlackroad
    @MisterBlackroad หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A lot of it comes down to realism, which they are going for. Natural blonde hair just looks darker when it's wet. Her PS2 eyes appear a bit bigger but I'm not sure how good that would look in these new graphics, it can quickly look off. The Pachinko Boss doesn't look realistic especially due to the eyes, IMO. The mouth could use some work, the original's was slightly more narrow and the lips were a bit fuller. But that's not really something I'd lose sleep over, overall her look is pretty good

  • @kingkeefage
    @kingkeefage หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    My first thought when I saw her was, "That's not the Boss."

    • @cFull_Rtrd
      @cFull_Rtrd หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      of course it's the boss.

    • @kingkeefage
      @kingkeefage หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cFull_Rtrd 🤨

    • @gamefreak-hr7su
      @gamefreak-hr7su หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      “You’re not the boss, are you?”

    • @cFull_Rtrd
      @cFull_Rtrd หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@kingkeefage that's her in current gen glory, this is her most accurate representation, she was only like 10 polygons before and it tricked your eyes.

    • @redcap2771
      @redcap2771 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And my second thought was, "Who is that men"

  • @OtterMachine
    @OtterMachine หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As a someone who has played MGS3 on release on PS2 and bought every rerelease since I can tell you that this new look for THE BOSS is way off. It does not look like her at all. Disregarding hair colour, I feel her eyes and mouth shape are way too different. She also looks much younger somehow. This new model is not ugly by a long shot but it does not look like THE BOSS. I hope Konami make some last minute changes for us fans.

  • @michalbotek
    @michalbotek หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I agree. They should work on her a little bit more. But regarding James in SH2 Remake, Konami is not developing the game. Only licensing.

  • @Hamzat22
    @Hamzat22 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sweet Baby Inc was also consulting on mgs 3 delta..?

  • @memegator-hype
    @memegator-hype หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like how she looks right now. It gives me cold vibe.

    • @WOLFMAN1469
      @WOLFMAN1469 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@memegator-hype Ironic considering her emo name was The Joy.

  • @Kenno10rapid
    @Kenno10rapid หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's not terrible but I agree it could be a bit better.

  • @jacobmatthews7524
    @jacobmatthews7524 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    looks like the boss's long-lost sister lol

    • @duncanmacleod7287
      @duncanmacleod7287 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      who also happens to have a big d

  • @OneTwoMark
    @OneTwoMark 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thats been my only gripe since reveal too, I also said the pachinko version was more accurate too. Snakes face seems perfect. The Boss original look's vibe was regal, the Boss' new face looks a bit scrawny and less important.

    • @duncanmacleod7287
      @duncanmacleod7287 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They should've brought Kojima for a supervising role at least, I have serious doubts they won't screw up the rest of the Cobra Unit given their very particular over the top designs.

  • @daniellucas797
    @daniellucas797 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hello PhytonSelkan, I really appreciate your videos. In my opinion, The Boss's face during the events of Metal Gear Solid 3 shows that she was 39 years old, a woman who has experienced many wars, and all that weight is noticeable through her model in Solid Delta. Greetings from Brazil.
    I'm translating this comment using an artificial intelligence, so it might come out poorly.

    • @MixtapeMessiah92
      @MixtapeMessiah92 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perfect english as to be expected from an AI lol

  • @Pouria_RST
    @Pouria_RST หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I agree that her design could be better. But i can still play the game and don’t mind the changes in her face. It still looks good. As you said, i’m more concerned about EVA. Hope they show her soon

  • @AlhusainREC
    @AlhusainREC หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like her new Appearance. She look like Female Snake. I hope one day we get to play as her as main protagonist and how getting the boss title locks into endless battles just like what she said.
    she look like she is the mother of Big Boss and Ocelot she looks like both of them now.
    Maybe mgs delta is just what Venom remembering Virtuous mission and snake eater missions and since Big boss see her as mother so this is how she looks in Venom's mind.

    • @WOLFMAN1469
      @WOLFMAN1469 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's the problem. She has no blood relation to Les Infants Terrible.

    • @PopoAU
      @PopoAU 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WOLFMAN1469 she was the surrogate tho

    • @WOLFMAN1469
      @WOLFMAN1469 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PopoAU No, Boss was not the surrogate for the Snakes. Even if she were there's no gene share.
      Edit: So I just double checked as it was long ago. And it was Eva (Big Mama) who is the surrogate . The gene mother to the terrible infants, the twin snakes, was "a Japanese woman, Dr. Clark's (Para-Medic's) assistant."

    • @PopoAU
      @PopoAU 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WOLFMAN1469 Yeah you're right bro :D I was so blazed idk what I was thinking hahaha

    • @blasttyrant3228
      @blasttyrant3228 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@PopoAUMgs lore will getcha like that lmao

  • @theloniuspunk383
    @theloniuspunk383 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    New design looks cool, more realistic and CHAD AF as the boss should be

  • @MrBlackReaven
    @MrBlackReaven หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It looks great, come on Phyton. Good day sir

  • @gulraizkhan3881
    @gulraizkhan3881 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Everyone !

  • @MechaBrainX
    @MechaBrainX 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you talk about that in astro game there is 4 findable bots , the one in month september is the ape escape from mgs 3 snake eater side missions, is it a hint that mgs delta will release in the month of September ???

  • @horsthacker6355
    @horsthacker6355 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think she looks great. Way more human.
    In the past she also looked great, but a little too rough because of the tech back then.
    Her eyes in the remake are insane.

  • @MattiaEsposito92
    @MattiaEsposito92 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I actually like the new Boss. She resembles Ocelot a lot more, which makes sense, since, you know, he's her son. Also I'd say they tried to make her less feminine, which is also more in line with a legendary soldier from the 60's

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She doesn't even have Ocelots blonde hair anymore. And she shouldn't be less feminine. Femininity and her skill is what made her stand out.

    • @twistedoperator4422
      @twistedoperator4422 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@WllKiedSnakeHer feminity made her stand out? LMAO she literally breaks Boss's arm, shits his eye, and talks about sacrifice the whole game. Couldn't be less feminine. Eve is the one with feminity but even then only superficial so.

  • @idontwant2beasoldiermama241
    @idontwant2beasoldiermama241 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    When you have Shinkawa and Kojima as the main force for designing characters, there's absolutely no need to change anything.
    Some clowns are claiming the new boss is better LOL

    • @averageanimefanboy9473
      @averageanimefanboy9473 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They are saying "it's lore accurate", "it's more realistic" like the game is Arma 3 or even worse "the ps2 wasn't able to do it, she was supposed to be like that". The game is Kojima's idea and Kojima puts unrealistic good looking people looking like models in every single game because they stand out the most. Like tell me Quiet in MGS5 or the BBs in MGS4 are not here because Kojima simps for models.
      It's like people want to ignore the source media and the ideas/people behind it.
      You can like the new model, but don't act like it suits the franchise vibe more than the old one when the creator has a kink for glamorous women and don't even hide it to the point the game is unrealistic asf.

    • @idontwant2beasoldiermama241
      @idontwant2beasoldiermama241 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@averageanimefanboy9473
      I agree 100% with every point you make, Mgs have always prioritized art style over realism.
      The original Boss's design already captured a strong woman with a strong will, someone that has had a rough life but also has a kind heart. The new design is alright tho, but people Can't tell me it is better because it's simply not.

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@averageanimefanboy9473 it's also weird how they say she wasn't supposed to look like that for the PS 2 version even though her look is based off an actor which is what the Metal Gear designs for chracters originally were. Just based off of actors. Like literally coloring over photos of actors, it looked like.

    • @krus-krusgaming269
      @krus-krusgaming269 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that its not better, but not worse either. She is just looks realistic and accurate for woman veteran that is 40 years old. My girlfriend said "In original she looks more like your older sister, in remake she looks like an adult woman and mother"

    • @idontwant2beasoldiermama241
      @idontwant2beasoldiermama241 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@krus-krusgaming269
      Ok, but that's literally the point, with all respect, why would I listen to your girlfriend instead of the geniuses that carefully crafted each piece to make a masterpiece?

  • @s.plissken_91
    @s.plissken_91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She also resembles Ocelot in the original. (So you can tell she's his mother) She's also supposed to be blonde.

  • @shelbybunny
    @shelbybunny หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    just put that orange/yellow-ish filter mgs3 used over the boss in the delta trailer and she looks pretty much the same

  • @kyrolazioko4783
    @kyrolazioko4783 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The difference is the chin. The "new Boss" seems to have a large ball chin. The original Boss has more of a pointed chin. Still relatively large, but it's the shape that's off.

    • @AmelpsXett
      @AmelpsXett หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lmao they have the same chin except ps2 boss actually has a slightly bigger chin

    • @spyrochrisgaming
      @spyrochrisgaming หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are correct. Delta boss has a wider/larger chin.

  • @EmparaNox
    @EmparaNox หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Imo she looks awesome, better than the original and the pachinko version, because she really looks like a badass veteran, the pachinko version looks way too cute.

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i agree... she is a 42 year old veteran that fought in WW2 over 20 years ago... probably ages more quickly than a model, which is exactly what she looked like on PS2... like a 25yr old model

    • @mariorusinek5037
      @mariorusinek5037 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree ☝️

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I disagree. She was badass in the original. To change her doesn't now make her badass. She always was.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SuperGeronimo999She looks in her late 30's in the PS2 game.

    • @mariorusinek5037
      @mariorusinek5037 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WllKiedSnake also agree ☝️

  • @AsymmetricalCrimes
    @AsymmetricalCrimes 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm surprised we haven't seen any images of Eva yet.

  • @embracerodusk2537
    @embracerodusk2537 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Boss just morphed into 1992 era Layne Staley.
    She actually sings "Rooster" now during the bridge standoff.

  • @Liquid_Atlaes
    @Liquid_Atlaes หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    YOU’re pretty good

  • @RaidenTheRipper950
    @RaidenTheRipper950 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    She looks like Eminem

    • @fire-typhoon123
      @fire-typhoon123 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My palms get sweaty just by looking at her

    • @johnhoskins51
      @johnhoskins51 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      knees weak, arms are heavy

  • @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson
    @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm kinda nervous to see Eva, especially after seeing what they did to Angela in Silent Hill 2 remake.

  • @spyrochrisgaming
    @spyrochrisgaming หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is Python and Selkan's opinions on optional additions to the maps, in order to keep things fresh for returning players? I'm talking about fully OPTIONAL, linear paths, in addition to recreating the maps 1:1.

    • @mariorusinek5037
      @mariorusinek5037 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I Had the Same Idea, every spot from the OG and in between bigger areas Like the size of the ends Boss areas.
      But even ifnirs 1:1 im very very Happy so gar 👍👍👍
      That would BE a dream 👌

    • @spyrochrisgaming
      @spyrochrisgaming หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mariorusinek5037 that would be Konami going the extra mile to make everyone happy for sure!

  • @Invictus_GR_
    @Invictus_GR_ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think I won't be so bothered about her since i boot the game on my ps5 😜 but yes she looks a bit off

  • @Sora2314
    @Sora2314 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope they can polish up her looks to be more similar to the OG, but for some reason I doubt they will. James from SH2 was changed due to the uproar of fans, something that isn’t happening right now for MGS3.

  • @garrie2976
    @garrie2976 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope they have the Raiden mask cus it would be interesting to see what Raiden looks like in these graphics cus it would give us a idea what he would look like in a MGS2 Remake

  • @timdog666satan6
    @timdog666satan6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The hair is darker because it’s wet. If anything this shows the detail of effects in the engine. At least that’s my thoughts on the hair, other then that, I think she looks great 👍

  • @Onmysheet
    @Onmysheet หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The Boss's eyes in the original speak a lot about her character. It's pain, sadness, focus, confidence, tiredness, and hopefulness all at once. In the remake, she just looks tired.

  • @FastTriton
    @FastTriton หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think her design is good, it’s definitely made with high attention to details, no reason to complain.

  • @WelshSnake6978
    @WelshSnake6978 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you guys know its not just the lighting

  • @MetalGearLegacy
    @MetalGearLegacy หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm glad to see other vets of the series are on the same page about the boss as us. it's not about looks it's about maintaining Kojima's original vision without compromise.

  • @muldoone6920
    @muldoone6920 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Considering how things nowadays come out half broken. For fans to nitpick this single minor detail, on this amazing faithful recreation... come on
    I think she is fantastic.

  • @HolisticHealth-PMS
    @HolisticHealth-PMS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am glad you pointed this out because I was really looking forward to silent Hill 2 until there were signs of... The message.
    Now that I've noticed the boss's face I am worried.

  • @EthanCruise
    @EthanCruise หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I saw The Boss in the trailer, I got emotional. Just knowing her history, and what she is going through at this point, and what is to happen. I thought they captured her amazingly well.
    On PS2, I always found that she looked unhappy and conflicted, and we eventually found out why. The Delta version to me captures that look, but the nose go down, she has a seriousness about her that someone like the Boss will maintain despite their emotional conflict.
    Hideo Kojima is the designer, and he would have the idea of who he thought the Boss best fits, but it doesn't mean it has to follow said trend. It's like, the remake casted a different actor.

  • @AlphaLuna
    @AlphaLuna หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm an old player, she looks fine. Seriously.

  • @TooToo246
    @TooToo246 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The fact that we're griping over very small details, tells me Konami did a wonderfully faithful translation of the characters!.....The transition from the PS2 version to current-gen, is almost as if we're turning a 2D character into a 3D one. That's how big of a difference it is betweern MGS 3 and MGS ∆, so of course you can't expect it to be an absolute 1:1. But overall, she actually looks meaner and more war-seasoned in the remake, while in the PS2 version she looks closer to the iconic MGS character concept art!
    I'd say Konami did a waaaay better job than other developers. The Last Of Us remake took a lot more liberties with the character faces, it made them look older and more miserable. And RES4 remake completely changed their design to make them in line with the RES-remake-verse!....We have a good thing going here, so let's not be too picky!

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake หลายเดือนก่อน

      Japanese vs Western devs when it comes to women.

  • @WolfJarl
    @WolfJarl 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bit of "mountain out of a molehill" feel here given how lighting and such can make your hair look different.

  • @THEOGJIGSAWGMOD
    @THEOGJIGSAWGMOD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the way her face looks kind of makes sense because of her circumstances, it makes her look more depressed

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Pachinko Boss > OG Boss > Delta Boss. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @christianvachon9709
    @christianvachon9709 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    According to the Legacy part 2 video. They are still working on the animations and gameplay still. So they may make some changes to the Boss' face. I admit myself that this trailer looks amazing but one issue I had after my first viewing of this trailer was the Boss' face. I mean everything else looked great how I imagined the characters faces.

  • @limaikhiankelvin9800
    @limaikhiankelvin9800 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why they don't use back The Boss character design from the Pachenko machine? They already have character designs from the Pachenko machines right?

  • @Sercil00
    @Sercil00 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The chin is much bigger than the PS2 one. The model also has a bigger chin, but not to that degree. The jaw also seems straighter and sharper when it's more round on the model and PS2 version.
    A lot of the rest of the face is spot on, but those differences are enough to create an uncanny valley feeling

  • @101Lyall101
    @101Lyall101 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think she looks spot on actually, I’m in the mind that someone worked their ass off to work on her textured and look and, to me she looks good.

  • @Dasha-dy1lr
    @Dasha-dy1lr หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    tbh i think the boss looks alright, and after all it is still only one shot from the trailer. can't wait to see her in the actual cutscenes

    • @redcap2771
      @redcap2771 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's gonna be worst

  • @CTom1988
    @CTom1988 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I believe the pachinko machine boss with a bit more of a gritty look would be a better fit. Although the new model has that "I'm going to die for my country depressed" look which really suits the character and wasn't really doable on ps2 hardware

  • @HatCHeTHaZ
    @HatCHeTHaZ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sweet baby inc aren't involved are they??

    • @DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED-
      @DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED- 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The japanese never do woke stuff,Unless you mean Silent Hill 2 remake but that's primarily being done by that piece of shit Bloober Team studio which should get shut down

  • @Kizaru3314
    @Kizaru3314 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's just lighting guys.
    Look at the orignal lighting: there's hot spots on both sides of her face. It's flat lighting.
    In the Remake, she's only being lit on one side, so of course it creates darker shadows and shapes the face differently.
    Watch any photography video about lighting faces and you'll see the difference.

  • @HD-nv9ru
    @HD-nv9ru หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Definitely her face as to change

    • @subtegral
      @subtegral หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Your face has to change.

    • @IWillYeah
      @IWillYeah หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@subtegralno their face as to change get it right.

  • @MKG-2033
    @MKG-2033 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The one thing i'm wondering about is, they say this game is a scene-for-scene remake of the original, but will they keep the more...explicit scenes in the game. It makes they may take them out cuz they were weird even for the time, but at the same time they seem pretty faithful to how things originally went so far and i bet fans would be angry if they took them out. i haven't played snake eater yet but one thing's for sure, it'll be interesting to see what they do. Maybe they'll just remake it completely the same and slap that "this game contains themes that are outdated but we've decided to keep it the way it was originally made to preserve it" disclaimer they do at the beginning of the master collection games. only time will tell.

  • @Darkcur
    @Darkcur 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's how the hair is getting affected by the light that's making her look off, the face might be a tad long but nothing too much, I think of she had a sharper jawline it would get her closer to her MGS3 counterpart

  • @27mayanman
    @27mayanman หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You are comparing an old polygon model to a more realistic take of the boss. It’s like comparing rocks to smooth, realistic apples. C’mon everybody, stop being overly critical here, Konami has done an Extraordinary Job with this remake!! Let’s give them their flowers so that they can remake MGS 1 next!!

    • @ChrisDavid-fk1du
      @ChrisDavid-fk1du หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You haven't even played it yet. I guarantee it's not going to be better than the original. Konami should make something new instead of remaking old stuff. The whole industry is in trouble if this is what people are hyped for.

    • @27mayanman
      @27mayanman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChrisDavid-fk1duYou sound like a Kojima Ass Kisser!! Dude, Kojima himself has mentioned that these games were limited to tech of that time, so it proves that these games are not perfect as is and have room for improvement. The visuals alone are an upgrade, and they mention for you So-called MGS purists, a Legacy mode, where you can play this game with the Old, top down view and old controller button layout and color filter, but with enhanced graphics. What more do you want?!

    • @DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED-
      @DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED- 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChrisDavid-fk1du Stfu and instead be glad we're even getting a remake of this game because we're definetly getting more remakes and remasters if this game succeeds enough,And personally I'm far more interested in what Konami is doing with the MGS license today than whatever that overrated hack Kojima is doing nowadays for sure...
      I hope all of his projects flop and just imagine if Konami actually got back on track and beat Kojima lmfao I would suffocate of laughter

    • @Naked_Snake1974
      @Naked_Snake1974 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED- keep slurping up that slop

    • @averageanimefanboy9473
      @averageanimefanboy9473 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DJPUPPETMASTER-RESURRECTED- Kojima refused to sign your diamond dog mug for you to be this mad at him ?

  • @KYL3GG
    @KYL3GG หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    her design isnt a deal breaker if they keep it like this

  • @pitonto16
    @pitonto16 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At first i was skeptical, but her look has grown on me

  • @thatillestbori1
    @thatillestbori1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The boss looks exactly how I imagined she would have looked like she looks amazing to me

  • @s.d.8016
    @s.d.8016 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I prefer the original

  • @snarffles5687
    @snarffles5687 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is the official remake not a pachinko game 🤣
    Plus the Boss is a hardened vet from WWII, and in this remake she really does look like she’s been through hell on earth

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yeah, she is 40+ and not a 25 year old model like in the PS2 game...

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SuperGeronimo999 she doesn't look 25 in the PS 2 game, stop lying about it to make the new boss seem better.

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@channel45853 I think she does. And i don't care if you like it or not.

    • @duncanmacleod7287
      @duncanmacleod7287 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SuperGeronimo999 Go look at Charlotte Rampling in her 40s, she still looked beautiful, not like this Russian looking dude posing as The Boss.

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@duncanmacleod7287 I mean, you're comparing a model to someone that is supposed to be an elite soldier who has fought for over half her life (in WW2 too)
      Think of it like comparing a 50yr old rich guy who never physically worked hard with a 50 yr old construction worker.

  • @stevelucky7579
    @stevelucky7579 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited for the game as long as sweet baby inc wasn’t involved.
    Though I think her face could have easily been more like the Boss we known all these years instead of whoever this thing is. Especially when you compares something like the pachinko which was so close already.

  • @EggmanlandResident
    @EggmanlandResident 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think I'd need to see her in motion, in a cutscene and talking, to really know for sure if The Boss' new look is right. Maybe next time they release new information, we'll get a cutscene focused trailer. And hopefully Ocelot doing his meow.

  • @GaryOpengo
    @GaryOpengo หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the way that Konami made the "new model", she has the courage and sadness that The Boss has in the 2004 game.

  • @nsinghc2799
    @nsinghc2799 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thanks for callig it out, I 1000% agree since I've seen that face, it looks bad and needs fixing badly.

  • @kevinkite3418
    @kevinkite3418 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty sure her hair is looking darker because of the lightning engine. We must wait for more shots of her new look to be sure.

  • @MetalMoshin
    @MetalMoshin หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also you need to take into account that they are in a forest where it rained a lot, so perhaps her hair being a little browner at times could be due to the rain. Blonde hair gets darker when it's wet. It could just be another detail we missed 😮

  • @drgriyot1424
    @drgriyot1424 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think the primary issue ‘most’ people are having is superficial. I.e. she’s rugged looking and probably more rugged than people assumed she would look. However, The Boss is a legendary jaded soldier who fought in WW2 and has had a lifetime of hell. She’s not supposed to look….how do I say this….like a model. She has a hardened, jagged and almost hollow look to her. It’s epic imo.

    • @GallumArtemi
      @GallumArtemi หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      wrong, she IS supposed to look like a model, that's how the game is designed. She's not supposed to look like she literally just walked off of the battlefield of WWII. When we meet the boss, she is well put together and fresh, and she's also The Boss, she is legendary because for her war is natural. She was able to maintain her femininity while being a warrior, she didn't have to sacrifice it and become 'boyish'. She hasn't been fighting in the jungle when we meet her on the bridge.

    • @drgriyot1424
      @drgriyot1424 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GallumArtemi that actually proves a different aspect of my point though. She is viewed as a God by militaries around the world. Like war was a dance to her and effortless. But by the time she actually breaks down her life to Snake, she lets us know that it’s basically all b.s. and her life was an utter hell and she has nothing left within her. Hollow. Detached. Her new look actually tells her true story a lot better I think.

    • @GallumArtemi
      @GallumArtemi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drgriyot1424 Yea, until the actual end where we realize she was the legend all along, she just had come to value some other things. To her, it was mundane maybe. But she is a beautiful character who is well put together, we're not talking to her mid-battle, or just after she's been at war.
      I feel like your point would make more sense if we removed 'the fears' magic elements, and also made 'The End' mundane, and so forth. Realism is not a priority with MGS. Story telling and theatrics all come first.
      Removing the somewhat mystical, legend like elements from the characters isn't faithful to the game. The Boss is beautiful, like an elven queen on the battlefield. I think if it remains how it is, The Boss will entirely lack the impact she's supposed to have. She wont steal the show, she'll just look like 'some lady soldier'.

    • @drgriyot1424
      @drgriyot1424 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GallumArtemi I agree with your overall points, and I see your side of things and I actually dig the “elven queen” visual. For me personally though, the current haunting look doesn’t make her look any less Elven or angelic. Simply more jagged, like knives. It’s almost demonic. I’m into hard looking women though, so it’s probably just a personal preference.

    • @GallumArtemi
      @GallumArtemi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drgriyot1424 I understand your take, though I think for even that bridge scene to really hit right, it needs to be juxtaposed against those other elements of her. But maybe in the actual game it will still work and it's just that one scene we get like that which makes it seem darker. There's a chance it's a clip from when the actual dialogue turns darker.

  • @rafaelsilva7227
    @rafaelsilva7227 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nothing wrong with the new design, she looks her age (between 40´s and 50´s) and she looks rough, like someone who has gone through a lot. The character is not supposed to look like a model.

  • @wesleyskeen4065
    @wesleyskeen4065 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe her hair is darker to distinguish her from Eva? That would have made sense in the original PS2 version but not so much here. She still looks the bad ass we all remember. I got goose bumps.

  • @jogabilidadeinsana1416
    @jogabilidadeinsana1416 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But the remake version gives a vibe more darker.. I'm just curious about the dub

  • @Dominatingfox
    @Dominatingfox หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ILY ❤