Drinker's Chasers - Can The Russo Brothers Possibly Save The MCU?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- The recent news that the Russo brothers are returning to direct the next two Avengers movies prompted us to speculate - can the guys behind some of Marvel's biggest hits hope to salvage the MCU or is it too little, too late?
“The other day I was floating face down in my local duck pond when two thoughts occurred to me: it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a Marvel movie, and I’m totally fine with that.” - The Drinker, 2021
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If you've been floating face down in your local duck pond,the last Marvel movie you saw should be the least of your concerns.
The image my mind produces...... is him still wearing a suite and tie and still clutching a rapidly dissolving dodgy kabab... (>.
@@rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 specificaly in the local duck pond? What about a pool?
@@rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901r/wooooosh
"I don't want anything made of things I like right now"
Nerdrotic hits the bullseye.
Democratic progressives inserting their diseased state of mind into anything is disaster.
just let them enter public domain
MCU: *failing because they are fools mishandling everything*
Russo Brothers: "You could not live with your own failure and where did that bring you? Back to us."
💯
MCU: We’ve come full circle; which means the we had a classic arc right?
russo brothers failed all of their projects too lol
Highly overrated, they were nothing before the MCU and have been garbage after it. But to be fair both marvel and the Russo brothers have been garbage since endgame, it's just a fact not my opinion.
@@willydynamite9806 True💯💯
The MCU is beyond repair at this point, but I would welcome a quality movie from the Russo Brothers again. 🎉
Sure because The Grey Man and Citadel were classics that totally weren’t memory-holed after the came out.
They could hit the reset button and adapt Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe.
If anyone can fix it they can! I’ve worked with those guys! They are amazing!
I’m not confident they can do much to turn this thing around right now. It’ll probably take a couple of years for Marvel to truly pull out of this nosedive of bad stories (not counting one offs), and even then, getting back to where they were will be a tall order.
@@Letstunein We said the same about Russel T Davis and Ridley Scott at one point.
They aren’t saving anything.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Nothing short of shelving and rebooting it can at this point.
short answer yes but when they leave again it be back to losing hundreds of millions of dollars again.
A reboot will just mean it'll suck from Day 1. It'll never be as good as in the early phases.
@@purefoldnz3070 the damage is done it can’t be saved
“The Multiverse Saga” is as much a saga, as “Age of Ultron” was an age.
Age Of Ultron was at least watchable tho
Been calling it Weekend of Ultron for years now.
Saga should've been called Saggy😂
Weekend at Ultrons @@neil3202
@@chasehedges6775 It's easily one of my least favorite Marvel films.
I'm frankly unwilling to engage with any Disney property at this point
Same here, the Okeefe investigation was the last straw for me
Frankly same.
I love classic Disney but I reject Modern Disney
Same, not that I watched much of disney since the star wars sequel trilogy. But I got 2 young kids and even tho they know the old cartoons (my wife liked then) I now banned everything Disney related from the house. F them
@@chivasroco1752 did you watch the James Okeefe investigations about DEIsney and their grooming club ZEBRA PDFiles?
Everyone said RTD coming back to Dr Who would save it… look at what happened
Exactly. Just because they’re bringing back people who made good movies in the past, doesn’t mean those people haven’t drank the Kool-aid since those movies been made.
Yep, and the Russos haven’t exactly backed bangers.
When looking into it, the only major projects they’ve done as directors/writers of note are The Grey Man, Extraction 2, and Cidadel.
Mauler says that at 5:22
@@Slamdoxicalz I think he already knew that and hoping no one would notice
In fairness tho the last time we saw RTD last time back in what 2008-9? We only saw the Russos last for Marvel in 2019
Everything has a shelf life and the MCU had theirs, nothing lasts forever.
EXACTLY. 💯💯
The bill is due. Time to pay the piper and the reaper
The MCU still had plenty left in the tank, then they went broke and inevitably went broke.
@mat2000100 If only they had not placed woke directors, producers, writers whatever. Focus on at least telling decent stories with a new tchalla, make Hulk a raging bad ass , forget the need to overly shove comedy, make antagonists and protagonists actually compelling to watch
I disagree, without anything wokes or the message in it may be successful but I won’t support Disney until they clean the top of the house. Watch James Okeefe
How about introducing Dr Doom, and have him kill all the unpopular Avengers.
Adding a new, unmolested character to work with while cutting out all the chaff?
They could probably make it work!
If they're gonna do that should've just made a Deadpool kills the Marvel universe adaptation.
Hmm...... interesting
Film title "The Rise of Doctor Doom!" we get his origins story and then the NOT Avengers come to stop him from committing his plan, but instead of them being able to stop him, he beats them all, including Captain Marvel, with her, have a brainwashed Rouge, steal her powers and when she powerless, shove her off the edge off a cliff and let her fall to her demise but no magical stone is produced by her death!! The film main battle with Doctor Doom has his real plan revealed to the avengers and what his weapon can do, which is to tear open the multiverse, properly as he seeks to go back in time and prevent the accident that disfigured his face from happening, but he finds that its a fixed event and he cannot prevent it without breaking everything and guess what, he goes and breaks everything and causes a massive rift that pucks different verisons of various Marvel heroes from the Multiverse and they have to face a Doctor Doom who been impowered and gone totally insane as the power is in control! The only one who can stop Doctor Doom, is himself, AKA younger alterative verison who vows not to become like him and while the disfigurment is still going to happen, Doom doesn't try and prevent it from happening and vows that he will find a actual cure for it, thus the monster Doom, has nothing keeping it bound to existance and then Doctor Strange is able to seal the main rift, yet there are smaller rifts existing all over the world and as a result of the disaster, you have different verisons of the classic Marvel heroes and Mutants have appeared while Inhumans have vanished along with all of the fake Avengers who couldn't avenge anything!! The film ends with Doom sitting upon his throne to plot what to do next!
But doesnt that make Doom likeable and the hero that we root for and not a bad villain that we want to see fail? 😂
No, next question.
This💯💯
I wasn't a fan of Endgame.
LMFAO. Agreed
No, it doesnt matter who they get or how entertaining the new Avengers movies are because its not going to be good because nobody cares about these new characters or the build up and what made avengers great is the buildup to them and the connection we've had.
It would show how cheap the audience fans are if it was. A couple movies 180’ding the garbage just comes off as “Yup you can screw up over and over and any time a media comes out, it can just flip perceptions”
Why would anyone be invested in a franchise that could just change by a couple entries?
Plus. Even if they did bring the old ones back. They will just ridicule them and use them as stepstools for their new Mary Sues.
@@svetlanaandrasova6086 and by that time the whole nostalgia baiting will start to get stale.
Yep. The time to have brought them back would have been for Cap 4 and Thunderbolts - both of which are already doomed to the trash bin.
Was a hardcore fan bro no in the day now I just stick to the comics…. lol
I wanna watch something like the teenage mutant turtles
They've dismantled the MCU just as much as they dismantled Star Wars.
They could bring back Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man and and it wouldn't matter, because they've worked hard to smear shit all over our opinions of the old characters so we would settle with the new ones. And when that didn't work, they tried to call us racists and sexists to coerce us into liking them.
Now we have a universe full of plot holes and with no narrative throughline because Kang got canned, populated by once-liked characters who have been humiliated, defamed and rewritten into incompetent idiots, and a host of new, unlikeable token-diversity Mary Sue-wannabe socio-politics-pandering hypocrites to replace them, written by people who frequently remind us, bkth verbally and in text, how they actively despise and hate the franchise, men and white people in general.
At this point I'm actively avoiding Disney products just to spite the toxic writers, showrunners and political actors. My only interest in the corporation these days is seeing how they're self destructing and blaming people like me because they think they're entitled to my money and think they can insult me into giving it to them.
That about sums it up.
@SleepyFen I feel much similar to you. Only way I see Mcu being much good again is if they make Hulk and Thor a lot cooler again, preferably Hulk more crazy strong and intimidating than they have shown him so far, bring back Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, Tchalla, get rid of all or most of these Young Avengers characters, either get rid of the character Captain Marvel, or replace it with a much more likeable actress, and if they want to have She-Hulk, have better cgi to make her look much more like the comics and have her actually be likeable like the comics. Last but not least stop making mediocre one off villains, If they did that, that would probably restore most of the people 's hope in the mcu.
@@keithpace9870 they can't and won't do any of that, though. Firstly because the actors probably don't see a point in returning to the sinking ship that already wrote their characters into the ground, and secondly because that would require firing all of the people who had a hand in making this mess in the first place. Hulk is the very embodiment of toxic masculinity to these people, so odds are we're not going to see him ever again unless he's getting humiliated and subdued by a strong female character.
I don't think Disney can salvage the impression that people have of the current version of the MCU after they've spent half a decade smearing shit all over it and maliciously attacked their customers for complaining about it. They need to realize that they hired political activists who drove the most valuable movie IP in history into the ground for the sake of making political statements, and as long as those people continue to work at Disney, I can't and won't trust the brand to create good stories in good faith. They won't give us heroes except diverse Mary Sues who step on the necks of white men for their crimes of being white men.
@SleepyFen Honestly Marvel movies would be better off in my opinion If either never did them anymore or they were sold off to people who, know how to write good stories, are actual comic book fans that know these characters very well and who will refuse to work with anyone who will push for annoying Mary sues , changing characters gender, skin color, or doing any box checking garbage. People who don't have a reputation for doing what Marvel studios has done or Insomniac letting baby Inc be involved in Spider-man games and more recently in the development of a Wolverine game. People who know how to lay out a clear plan and give the best version of Hulk, Fantastic Four, X-men team and faithful adaptation, maybe an ultimates like newly improved mcu 2.0. A cinematic universe, where Peter Parker is an adult already married, Tony Stark and Steve have someone special in their lives, Fantastic Four exist with their own headquarters, Normon Osborn with Oscorp building, A cinematic world where characters like, Iron-man, Steve Rogers, Ant Man, Wasp, Hulk, Thor, Black Panther, Fantastic Four x-men mutants, Daredevil, Electra, Punisher, She-Hulk, Deadpool, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Spider-man 's rogue gallery, Kingpin, Bullseye, Memphisto, Killmonger, Abomination, the Mandarin, the Leader, Brotherhood of evil mutants and Dr. Doom all exist on the same earth and the heroes have stories that connects to another story. Like say Daredevil civilian identity works to bring Kingpin down and in prison only to have aid that breaks him out, and he is brought back in a Spider-man film where in it Spider-man faces off with different villains and they get recruited by Kingpin and Daredevil offers some aid to Spider-man and they bring the villains down or say a Spider-man story where he gets the symbiote and it helps him do incredible things then at some point you have maybe Parker goes to the Fantastic Four building only to find they are gone, then you have a Fantastic Four movie where at some point they leave the city or the planet where they end up dealing with some problem and they return and find Spider-man telling he has been trying to reach them since yesterday, and he has the symbiote on him, tying it to events in the Spider-man project.
The only way to “save” the MCU now is to let it rest in peace
THIS
The only way to win is not to play
false, there just needs to be a switch in management
Let it rest for a few years and put NOTHING out, just out the classic characters that sell as toys on the shelves, then come back with a new plan, featuring the classic characters!
@@eanderson9599 Management... absolutely... but not ONLY management... not anymore. They've been infested.
Why would I want something intentionally devalued, by people who hate me, saved?
As long as Eiger and Kennedy and their Minions are running Disney, this is just another Turd Polishing.
Exactly!!! Disney for example is a patient that can't be saved (with good stories or nostalgia) when the cancer (woke people) is still there.
we already have a Batman show with his rogues gallery and it shows Batman doing detective work its call Batman the animated series.
The MCU was a Decade long story that ended, but they somehow forgot their own story finished and decided to carry on but without any plot/story...and then they are shocked that its considered garbage and no one is interested??? YOUR STORY WAS COMPLETE.
The story could've continued, the problem is that it became the m-she-u because of activists and femnazi's
Not quite. The MCU has tons of stories and characters that could be brought to the big screen. But I get what you're saying, I had similar feelings. Starting the MCU with this huge, widespread story arch has set the bar impossibly high. Realistically they should have let the IP lie for a bit while they work out the next big thing.
Yeah, I think there was definitely room to tell another epoch of stories. Spiderman, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, etc. Their stories weren't really complete. They definitely could have found a way to tell another ten year long storyline with those characters forming up together a team while integrated the Fantastic Four and maybe the Xmen (I was really hoping Mr. Fantastic would become the new Cap/Iron Man type). But yeah. It's still not beyond repair I don't think. But I'm hopeful
The worst part is that people realizes that it should’ve ended with endgame cause they think marvel had more good than bad recently even though that’s untrue. For every good project in phases 4 & 5, I can name you 2-3 bad ones. The opposite was true of phases 1-3.
Its the boomer way of refusing to die and move on well past the time
Jay is totally right. Should the Russo brothers return, they are returning to an MCU that is in the midst of a severe “likeable character drought.” Iron Man is gone, Captain America is gone, Black Panther is gone, Love and Thunder left Thor in “dad mode” where he almost completely unusable, the Hulk has never been properly represented in the MCU and it would almost be ridiculous to walk back what they did to his character in End Game. What COULD the Russo Bros even do that would completely flip the coin on the MCU as a franchise?
The savior of the MCU, Squirrel Girl
There was a time I believed that Markus-McFeely-Russos could basically take over the MCU. And then Thor’s character arc got nuked for cheap laughs.
You waited for the snap to be undone and you shat all over it? Shame on you.
No! Brand Damage has gone too far. I dont want ANYTHING from Disney!
take them to court
With all the Woke content in my favorite franchises it has eliminated my desire for movies and series. If I am watching a show and on of the characters says a line that is LBG, pro women, Woke, … it takes me out of the show and I am annoyed. I then leave the app and go do something else. What would have been an empowering line 7 years ago is no longer even tolerable for me. If social media says there isn’t a total absence of any of this, I won’t even give the show a chance.
trump needs to end this
A ray of hope here. The Winter Soldier was still the best marvel movie in my mind and I saw them all
Even if they did a complete 180, I really don't think I care about their precious "MCU" anymore. All the cool characters are gone, their replacements stink, and the people who make it are on record telling me that they hate me. They not only killed the golden goose, they replaced it with a used colostomy bag and then called the fans "ists/phobes" when they refused to pretend a bag of 💩was high quality entertainment. Apathy truly is the franchise killer and it's both awful and hilarious that they 100% did it to themselves of their own freewill and hubris. Nice job Hollywood lol.
this is end stage mcu
even if they bring them back, no one in the new avengers lineup has my interest
EXACTLY!
Xochitl Gomez was adorable in Multiverse Of Badness but she’s hardly good.
I will say again. The best 'strong female character' I have seen in the last 20 years is Gunnery Sgt. Bobbie Draper in The Expanse. THAT is how you create a believable badass female.
You need to watch more films of the past for there are many badass female characters that existed long before Bobbie Draper.
Agreed. She’s awesome
Widow from Into The Badlands
Marvel? No.
Star Wars? No.
Star Trek? No.
Time to move on people. Cherish what was, but admit it’s over.
You’re wrong, we’re just in the dark ages. Eventually Star Wars will fall into the hands of someone capable, they’ll decanonize the Disney stuff, and we go from there. May take 5 years, may take 50 years, it’s never over
@@eanderson9599 The best thing for the public interest would be moving on to new, non-corporate entertainment that can't be hijacked. Why repeat this exact scenario in future when we should know better?
We also just need brand new fiction in general. We've been recycling older works for decades, it's time for growth and change.
People probably had that same mindset after Batman and Robin came out… then in 2008 we got the Dark Knight. Imagine if they just stopped making Batman movies for good because they made a few stinkers? Terrible thought process
I think at this point, saving the IP is beginning to sound like a Gilligan's Island attempt to get off the island.
im suspicious of any person (and there are lots) telling people to "move on"
no, mockery is the best weapon
and so it creating new stuff
Every director is passing because they know the MCU is a sinking ship and they know essentialy they are a puppet to these clueless producers who don't know shiet.
Yup. I don't even have any faith in Deadpool 3
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 I only have faith in Deadpool and Wolverine solely for Ryan Reynolds standing his ground.
In the Hot Ones interview with Ryan and Hugh, there was a great question about movie budgets. Ryan makes a great point that sometimes having a huge budget is bad because it allows you to throw money at a bad idea rather than cutting it lose and being forced to simply come up with a better idea.
My personal evaluation is that the first marvel films were..marvelous. Well rounded, the plot firm, and had just the right amount of explosive visuals. I remember that watching the trailer o the first Iron man made your mouth watering, and eager to enter a Theatre.
That was then before hate watching was a thing.
Exactly 💯💯
Remember watching a trailer for Captain America The First Avenger and being pumped.
@@chasehedges6775that’s one of my favourite and the first avengers
The makers of those first films were proud of those characters and respected the source material.
Tbh... I don't really want the MCU saved. The MCU ended with Endgame. Everything after has been fan service for 1% of their normal audience. I haven't been a target demographic that they've cared about since 2020. For my ENTIRE life, Disney has wanted my money. Now it seems they don't want my money anymore. Cool.
*Infinity War
Endgame sucked
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp i didnt see endgame because they brought back the characters they killed which means that their deaths were absolutely pointless, they didnt even beat their own thanos, they beat a alternate version by cheating with time travel
@@finalfantasy50you didn’t read the Infinity gauntlet comics where half the universe dies, but is reborn. Endgame slander will not be tolerated
@@maxmazzotti6651 i shouldnt need to read comics or watch several tv shows to understand the movies, that is why phase 4 is a failure
You know, SnarkyJay is great. Not only for the obvious reason, but she's very insightful and really knows her nerd stuff. I'd never heard of her before she was on open bar for the first time.
What's up with her making weird faces when she wasn't talking?
I completely agree
Her channel is actually pretty based. She also does top tier cosplay. Nerds are so cool.
Name some fat/ugly girls that you "admire" for their incredible knowledge of "nerd stuff". 🥴
Simp.
That's not Aubrey Plaza?
At this point? No. Not even because the story of the MCU is in tatters. We're at a point where nobody knows who the Avengers are and nobody cares because all the new characters are generic and boring. We have the bad replacements for characters we used to like.
They use all the crap written since 2010 so that they can say it's in the comics. Problem is that they wrote characters that were garbage to start with that no one bought.
Lol what story??? It's a series of mismatched random movies.
Can't wait to see Ghostrider driving a hell prius 😂 not kidding
"Let's -ride- regenerative recharge."
Lithium fires are infernal.
The Agents of Shield did a better job with Ghost Rider than the movies ever will
Make it a Hell Tesla...and they wouldn't have to worry about adding the fire in post!
The Derailler! There's the next Jason Statham movie right there.
They could use Deadpool 3 as a soft reboot/apology to the fans. I'm good with wiping everything post Endgame from canon except Spider-Man and GoTG.
Unless they get rid of the entire head at Disney, perhaps but right now the grooming PDFiles of club Zebra and James Okeefe expos, I won’t support them
It is not going to save jack or sh*t because there is no rebooting a multiverse where there are infinite universes out there.
Nah Deadpool 3 is just fan service.
That's all Feige has left.
Although I mostly agree, I at least liked John Walker.
Disney would need to stay out of their way and that's never going to happen.
You could already see their interference in Endgame with that ridiculous scene where all the women suddenly land next to each other and pose. Totally out of place and clearly done to signal the incoming girlboss phase.
Should have had them all mixed in standing shoulder to shoulder with the male heroes.
If they stop Nerfing the Hulk, they might have a chance. But they got a long and uphill road, ahead of them.
Not even that and they are never going to undo it for they like Soy-Hulk and even if they do fix him it will not save the MCU for the MCU ended with Endgame.
@JustTooDamnHonest it ended with Infinity War. Endgame sucked. They made Thor and Hulk jokes
The Russo's couldn't even figure out what to do with the Hulk, what makes anyone think they can balance the freaking multiverse?
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp At least they didn't go out the way they did in the M-SHE-U.
@@JustTooDamnHonest They were already there. Phase 4 and 5 just used what Endgame set up. Thor literally hides from and abandoned his own people. Hulk is so insignificant that you could've replaced him with any smart Marvel character. Hulk never mattered in Endgame.
im sorry but that badger isnt angry enough for my liking.. i *demand* recompense..
Nice Marylin Monroe dress, Snarky 😉
I call Winter Soldier the greatest GI JOE movie ever made!!!! Because it’s lacking in superpowers and is mostly about COBRA, I mean Hydra
So THATS why I was staring at her chest the entire clip. I didnt even realize it.
There were others there to pay attention to?
What does it matter? Hollywood is all but over.
Nothing and no one can save MCU at this moment
the MCU needs a hard reset. Plenty of runs left to adapt. They just need to go back to classics: no multiverse bs and no focus on characters no one's interested in
Start with spider man, x men, fantastic four, and avengers. All classics
cant with mandated esg/dei requirements in place in the industry
The MCU has never gone away. They never took years off from projects so there's no way for us to miss them. The reason force awakens made so much money was because there was a 10 year gap between that and revenge of the sith
The mcu died when they released a black widow movie after her death
Peter Jackson should be writing & directing Thor 5. It will save him from the Dreggs Of The Rings, and Thor from Marvel’s writers and directors. Win, win.
Thor has been a joke character for 2 movies in a row with Endgame and Thor 4. That's the character. You can't suddenly make him serious. It wouldn't make sense.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 🤨 So they can change him from his earlier, more serious movies, to become a joke, but not change him to be more serious? Checks out…
The Russo Bros will do what they are damn well told.
Exactly. They won't stand their ground.
Exactly. The 'message' will still be strong.
@@Serendipity92xendgame slander won’t be tolerated
@@maxmazzotti6651 Tolerated 😂 Don't get me wrong I love endgame but with the latest installments Marvel have been producing I highly doubt bringing the Russo brothers back will change anything. They will be directed by the higher ups and whatever DEI team to include XYZ that has failed every other film.
Nerdrotic was right on teh money with Daredevil being one of the best shows in the last 10 years.
They spent 700 million dollars on this movie, and it still wasn't enough to get Harrison Ford to care
They screwed the heck out of Endgame, so NO.
Endgame was terrible.
I love that you’ve got Jay on the podcast, she’s really good at what she does.
I don’t care for them. They were the first ones to start the pandering and stuff in there for the modern audiences. We can’t forget, putting Captain Marvel in there for no reason. Can’t forget the gay support group guy. Can’t forget this stuff. Thats where it started
It's hilarious the gay guy was played by a straight guy, and yet no outrage from the mob. The Russo's created a lazy and rushed mess with Endgame. That movie has aged terribly.
White male directors to Disney: “You could not live with your own failure and where did that lead you? Right back to me.”
Recast Warlock. Reboot the whole MCU through the Magus saga
Lol that won't do shit.
All the good actors are done.
u may not be wrong
Superhero fatigue is a real thing. I’ve been done with these things basically since End Game. None of it is exciting, new, or enticing anymore.
So you've not watched the boys or invincible?
@@oldgregg86. Nope. I don't even know what "Invincible" even is... unless you mean the football movie with Mark Wahlberg haha, which was a great film!
@@brando3342 invincible is an animated super hero show on prime. Its actually good. Has J.K. Simmons voicing omni man. Should give it a go.
Spider-Man: No Way Home, The Batman, Across The Spiderverse, and Guardians Vol. 3 is proof of superhero fatigue not being a thing.
Your videos are always on point, keep it going
It’s crazy to think looking back at whom the Avengers passed down the reigns to. Tony died and looked at Peter like a son but he’s taking a break, Steve retired so Falcon can shine which he will, Clint gave his legacy to Kate Bishop who’s still learning, and Natasha unfortunately died but we saw her sister become the “new” Widow. Thor and Hulk are still pressing on beating a dead horse, just emasculated versions of what we knew, and I don’t care for a Thor 5 or ANY Hulk stand-alone after 14 yrs of this version.
There was no thought or care into propping up a new “Avengers” so we have something to look towards, outside of the woke nonsense that we’re rejecting, they look to truly have nothing creative to write.
No plot-confirmed big bad, no actor that isn’t fired for allegations, no spirit. It’s all dead.
The MCU needs to go away for like… 4-5 years and decide wtf they want to do with the franchise, make a plan, and execute that plan.
4 to 5 is a bit much maybe like 3 years and let them cook but people die man actors etc get older they can't take to much time
I actually agree but it's too late
She is supposed to be a femme fatal, a female James Bond, not what they ended up doing to her in her own BW movie
Havent seen anything from Marvel or Disney in 3 years. And I dont miss it nor care nor watch any trailers.
Plus. Even if they did bring the old characters back. They will just ridicule them and use them as stepstools for their new Mary Sues.
If anyone can fix it, it’s them! They are quality guys! I got the chance to work with them and I know they can do it!
How can they save MCU when the way they left things in Endgame built the foundations for some of the issues.
For pretty much all of the issues
To be fair: Kevin Feige pressured Brie Larson into Endgame and RDJ as well as Chris Evans wanted to leave the MCU. So these things were not under the control of the Russo brothers.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Theory the Derailer?
Bringing back the Russo Brothers to Marvel is the same as bringing back Russel T. Davies to Dr. Who, useless on it's own.
People were jumping up and down when RST was announced as the show runner, people are now getting their hopes up about the MCU.
Sorry not sorry but you'd be wise to keep your expectations below ground.
The biggest problem with the MCU was that they lost the three of best lead actors, either from in movie events from Endgame(Tony and Cap) or real life death(Black Panther). The rest of the main cast work better as side characters or don't have the charisma to carry the MCU forward.
I’m not even a marvel or MCU fan, but it’s just like shouldn’t this all be over after endgame I mean it’s literally called endgame just go hibernation for a little bit and then reboot the entire franchise again
You innocently think mega media corporations are gonna think smart after making a fat-load of money?
@@allendalenapo3430 if I were them, I would’ve done it just a bunch of pre-walls and may be small movies focusing on the continuation of certain characters stories after endgame but not like the avengers as a whole once again nine MCU fan not a marvel fan so I really don’t care but that’s what I would’ve done
Wait! What did Gary mean when he said “War of the Rohirrim” is a giant bait and switch? BRO, DONT LEAVE ME HANGING LIKE THAT! I was looking forward to War of the Rohirrim! Now, you’re telling me it’s going to suck? Nooooooo!
Do you not listen? Its gonna be about Helm Hammerhand's daughter and not him. Bait and switch so you get a female girl boss.
@@drdoomskywalker1731 Devaluing Eowyn in the process, ironically enough.
I'm very shocked how people turned on "Avengers: Endgame". I really liked it and it may be my favorite out of the four. It ended the character storylines as good as it could have. I'm not sure what else how they could have ended the Infinity Saga?
Well, that's because it was a poorly written and lazy rushed mess that has aged terribly. I disliked it when it came out. It's my least favorite MCU film.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp I just disagree. I still think its a great movie, on par with "Avengers: Infinity War", and works well emotionally. But that's just my opinion, we all have different takes on entertainment.
@@Dohsoda time travel will always reduced the stakes of ANY story, thats why the comics no longer have any meaning, world ending? Time travel, dead character? Time travel, universe ending? Lol nope time travel
Once you introduced time travel to your story, pretty much everything have zero stakes, even though endgame "tried" to fix time travel by making timeline weird, anything that happen could still be fix using time travel > get infinity stones > snap > fix everything > return stones.
Nothing is preventing them doing what they did in endgame btw and could theoratically could do this forever
@@Dohsoda I see. Honestly, I just wish they took their time on it instead of rushing to the end and didn't resort to time travel.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpYour opinion is wrong.
How the hell was it rushed when IW and Endgame were written back to back?
Your just talking.
The main thing with the Russo Brothers is they seem unable to make a non MCU film of any quality.
Wait, Will Smith is the reason that half of Hancock sucked?
This fucking guy.
Snarkyjay is absolutely right. All the Avengers we care about are gone or neglected (where the HELL is my Doctor Strange 3? I CAN'T believe so much effort is being given to Kamala Khan over the Sorcerer Supreme) so even if RDJ is back, what does it matter when the rumored Avengers new line up (Kamala, She-Hulk, Shang Chi, lady Panther, Echo, Binary, Capt Marvel) is BORING and audiences arent into them.
They really should’ve recast Black Panther. Yes it sucked Chadwick Boseman died, but that doesn’t mean they need to change the whole script. I think they should’ve recast Kang too (even though that story line may have been going to shiite).
Imagine if Harry Potter just decided not to recast Dumbledore after Richard Harris died. They would have ruined the story.
This is a massive issue with Disney though. They have an aversion to recasts. There’s really no good reason they haven’t recast Sebastian Stan as Luke Skywalker and found a new actress for Leia.
@@billbob4856 yep. 1000% agreed funny enough I tought we would see a new actor playing Luke skywalker and han solo and just continue the story from episode 6. But no 😑😑😑😑.
Short answer; No. They had a hand in its doom to begin with.
"You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me."- Marvel, probably
I don't want the Russos to come back, they have done the shittiest job imaginable with The Hulk and spat in the face of every Hulk fan around the world, so screw them!! I need my boy to get some redemption, and that's sure as hell ain't gonna happen if those two are involved!
They didn't write Endgame, and it showed. You can't blame them for Professer Hulk.
biggest problem I have with the Russo brothers too. Seeing as Steve their golden boy is no longer part of the MCU...I don't they can do much
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 They straight up said "We didn't know what to do with him" the Professor Hulk arc could have been cool and they made him the lamest fucking part of both movies, they gave everybody a chance to shine except The Hulk... They're just obsessed with Steve Rogers and cannot handle powerful characters, so they can get lost along with their writers.
Steve's ending didn't even make sense. He already moved on from Peggy when he said goodbye to her at her funeral. He accepted his place in the present in Age of Ultron. Would've made more sense for him to end up woth Sjaron Carter, since they teased that back in Civil War. Seems they'll just throw away character development whenever they feel like it because they don't know what else to do.
And they completely ruined the character of Thor in Endgame. Thor 4 just continued what Endgame set up
Agreed, they couldn't even figure out what to do with Hulk and no we're supposed to trust them woth the multiverse? Yeah, no thanks
Dont often see a plunging neckline on this show..
"A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one."
The right question is should it be saved?
If you cut everything after Endgame, snap it out of existence, then how many good movies are you left with? Now that the excitement has faded, how many of those movies have re-watch value?
Awesome Snarky Jay!
If your power requires 20-20 seconds uninterpreted to make them forget, then you always travel in a pair... One fights the other wipes.
Winter soldier was the best, I agree !
I think my mind got wiped from this show too.....WHERE ARE WE? HOW DID WE GET HERE!? WHY AM I HOLDING A PICTURE OF A PAIR OF SCISSORS!?!? HAHAHAhahahah
Nerdrotic and these guys just want to get back to 2014 🙄
Spot on.
First Deadpool’s budget was under 100 million. All these movies should be that. That way it forces the filmmakers to bring back… creativity.
Disney: "What is this 'creativity' of which you speak?"
@@todderickson2435 instead of throwing money at it to “fix” something. You come with… wait for it… CREATIVE ways to solve issue. Alters the way you think about things. Therefore… CREATIVE.
you’re welcome.
Love seeing SWT being featured on these podcasts, I watched his vids all the time as a kid and it’s relieving to see he hasn’t been bought or sold out 💪
The Russo brothers were the ones that started the downward spiral and created the first big problems. Those two can never be allowed to direct anything again after the Endgame fiasco.
downward spiral=3 billion dollars
@@MorgoYT What is your point? That money is the measurement of good movie making?
One of the key factors of Marvel's current dilemma is that they never set up what comes next. And they allowed the Russo brothers to destroy several characters, kill off several others, and create Evil Steve. There was nothing left. They destroyed the Marvel Universe.
This is just a move of pure desperation for both parties.
Marvel is desperate to not hit the reboot button because they know it’s over the minute they do that.
And the Russos are desperate because their careers have gone nowhere since Endgame. While they’ve done more than I thought as writers and directors, two black eyes they’ve done are The Grey Man and Citidel.
Lol stop. It's been over since Endgame.
Feige fucked around after that and only did more damage.
"Can The Russo Brothers Possibly Save The MCU?" No.
Can James Gunn Possibly Save The DCU? No.
where James Gunn come from
@@mablesfatalfable6021 sure bc the dceu was so great with Henry huh😂. if your job is to reboot you’re going to keep the main guy who was the face of the terrible universe??? make it make sense
@@mablesfatalfable6021Not correct. Henry Cavill was fired before Gunn came. There was some fuzz about WB bringing back Henry Cavill, but that didn’t happen in the end. James Gunn didn’t throw out Henry Cavill from any projects he was working at.
Ooh I don't agree there.
I think Gunn has more chance than Disney
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 They haven’t seemed to learn not to throw everything in at once though.
Looking forward to another year of amazing work from the Celtic Phoenix Team
I'm sorry I watched the middle of my screen and I've no idea what day it is.
The answer: No.
I haven't watched mcu since the last Avengers but I would definitely give these guys a chance. Infinity war and endgame were incredible
The MCU is dead.
It's the MSheU now.
Yup. They tried the multiverse and it flopped
3:10 Spider-Man, Peter Quill, uh… Loki?
Exactly what Gary said - "I don't want any of the things I like to be remade/made." Can they please just leave all these poor IPs alone?
Endgame was dope. Also you got Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Thor, Hulk, Winter Soldier, and Guardians. Bring in the X men and Fantastic 4 with the Russos and they could make some bangers
WB can't do a TV show with Batman as the protagonist, because the TV rights of the character for live action are with Disney now, that's why the Adam West TV series is not on WB's platforms. That's also the reason why, in series like Gotham and Titans, they couldn't showcase Batman directly.
"the problem is, they were working with good scripts"
That stands alone nicely ;-)
"if the headline is a question, the answer is no" howie carr, boston newspaper guy.
It’s going to take several talented filmmakers making a couple good movies in a row. Totally doable. No one person can “save” it much the same way it took more than one person to build it in the first place. Nothing continually gets better and better forever. Everything ebbs and flows. It’s been 5 years now of decline. It’s totally possible to go back to winning ways now
"..and then Amandla pretends she knows how to cry" xD
I have to agree with Gary, I don't want the "Entertainment Industry" to touch anything (else) I love or even like as it is right now.