If last new thing I ever watched was the last jedi, would you be surprised? Sitting back and watching the critics tear things apart has been a joy for a decade at this point.
Carrie-Anne Moss is a genius for doing this. She probably got a huge pay day, killed off quick, and has to do none of the PR bullshit. Well done to her.
@@johnhoran9840 That would be such a dumb twist if true... so yeah I think it probably has like a 95% chance of being a thing since the writers would pat themselves on the back for such an amazing "subversion" before going back to their hobby of snorting glue
Yeah the Leslye Headland self insert seems incredibly overt. Even down to the long lost sisters which apparently Headland had as a kid. She’s included a lot of her own life story as plot points but the problem is most people can’t relate to it. It’s not relatable life experience like learning how to deal with failure, it’s just things that are specific to her gender/sexual identity which most people just can’t relate to.
Anakin really should've considered how many Vulcans were there before giving Voldemort the One Ring. Turns out that those apes together weren't strong enough.
sacrifice style... No place for Father Son Holy Ghost inspirational Neo guides! Nope. It's all about the Squiddy, the Sith. Its a paean to the neopagan gnostic occult desperate to create a BIG MEDIA Matrix of gender fluid promiscuity... .male entitlement, consumer distractions, child turned kid rite. A knife to the chest is sacrifice symbol.. thesr mofos are sociopaths. real actual sociopaths.. a fellowship of them...
I'm still laughing at the lightsaber going all the way through her and she's recovering in a hospital in the next scene. Qui-gon should be standing there as a force ghost saying, "Really?" 😂
He is such a nice guy...I think he lacks the internal malice to take the blowtorch to the project. that it deservers. Whereas MauLer has provided some absolutely wonderful reviews of Star Wars and Marvel projects. (Platoon, too. Hell, Drinker too. Also...)
@@megatrollificusIt's hard bc you still little nuggets of quality Star Wars, but they're so small, and buried under tons of shit. I think fans like him see that, and still have a sliver of hope for something better. And while Star Wars has been a product since the original blew up, they still tried to make a GOOD one. Just look at how revisionism is bringing up the prequels in peoples minds too. They're still viewed as mostly bad, with again little nuggets of goodness, but not as bad as what Disney's been giving us. Further proof Disney has no clue what they're doing with the franchise is in Jenny Nicholson's video (well worth the 4 hr watch) about the now shutdown Galactic Cruiser hotel. Big oof on that.
@War624 sometimes, after a cookout, your excrement will contain little under-digested corn. It looks just like the good stuff, and it reminds you of how much you enjoyed eating it the first time, but it's excrement now.
It looks like a 3rd grader wrote this show. I went in with an open mind and I try with star wars but my God disney is fucking killing star wars and stomping on the grave. No one know what they are doing over there and it shows.
Yeah I feel sorry for that guy, he has such passion for this franchise. Sith Lord KK and her minions are just using it to push their agenda laughing at our faces.
Yeah I think they’re intentionally changing the rules of the universe with the goal of being able to crank out unlimited content. The combination of lightsaber wounds no longer being fatal, and the force creating new light and dark side users to create “balance”, means the story will never end and therefore the content/gravy train will never end. Until people stop watching of course which seems to be coming soon.
Yeah he’s talked before about how he had health issues in the past and Star Wars was one of the things that motivated him to keep going. It gave him hope that things could get better someday. So for him personally this has to be really tough as he has an intense personal connection to Star Wars, and to see it lose its values must hurt as he now knows that no sick kids are gonna be watching this and finding inspiration from it.
he was trying to be hopeful n probably wanted be positive gor his channel, now that his channel is secondary n his sabers are giving him financial support he doesn't have to walk positive/middle ground @kontroledkhaos6460
So much really has happened, huh? Not just the many shows Disney keeps puking out, but hearing all the interviews and how much they resent the audience that helped make Star Wars as popular as it was. Not to mention SWT being attacked on all sides if I remember right. From the higher-ups at Lucasfilm like Pablo Hidalgo to the rabid hordes of Twitter’s more vile residents. It's enough to break any man's soul. People have resigned from life for less. Hopefully he doesn't do the same.
@@cicada8981after his comments on Andor, let him sleep in the bed he makes. There is being a fan, then defending the very obviously bad. Don’t forget it’s either desert dehydration or “let Filoni piss in your mouth”. Because Filoni is our only light in this tunnel.
Did anybody else notice that when Osha crashed on the snow planet that she was never cold or that the Jedi knowing they were going to a frozen planet didn’t wear any snow gear & were also never cold?
For KK Star Wars, that would have been epic world-building. I mean THEN WHAT would you old school fans have wanted-some kind of flameless fire in space?? Quiet explosions in space? It's Star Wars, not some kind of Science Fair!
@@megatrollificus it’s attention to detail & the small things that let the viewers know that the creators actually care about the people watching it. If you are telling a good story, you can let some small things go but it can’t be both.
The knife fight scene between Trinity and the assassin is Lesley's pathetic attempt to emulate the fight between Beatrix and Copperhead in Kill Bill. That is how she pitched it to KK - Star Wars meets Kill Bill.
I'm taking calculus this summer, and it has consumed my brain. I was expecting the beginning of that robin story to flow into a math problem. I realized my mistake about the same time as the bird realized his.
That's a terrible metaphor. Now...if it was a female robin of colour, and it came back to life 10 stronger than any other bird, for no reason at all...THEN we got us a metaphor. Actually...more of an analogy by that point.
Every person on this panel has disney plus and has watched all their shows. Just to turn around and make hours of hateporn off of it, giving it more power, attention and social media presents, just to make a buck off of your views. You're all being played by both sides. Am I the only one who see's clearly the irony in all this?! Why not go Ekkkk..the Acolyle blows.....and move on and make a 30 minute video about something worth discussing and bringing attention to?
@@carson21211 'being played by both sides' That's a strange logic. I watch this panel to laugh at disney plus. They replace thousands of viewers who might otherwise subscribe to Disney plus (some at least). Disney isn't getting money from me, and I don't mind suffering an ad or two to laugh at them from a distance, so I'm not 'being played by either side'. If I'm entertained, I'm literally not being played, what don't you get? Do you think I'd not spend that time on some other source of entertainment? It really sounds like you're on Disney's side and just trying to sow dissent among their perceived enemies.
@@whenpigsfly8178 on disneys side BROTHER no way in this world or the next will i ever forgive them for thwta they've done to Star Wars/. ive gone mad thinking about a solution. Consume what you want. I know garbage before it is taken out to the bin.
The Acolyte is an abomination of bad writing, bad acting, bad directing. A woke “message” infused nightmare that completely destroys the star wars lore. Good job Disney.
I legit feel bad for theory. His livelihood had gone from covering material he loves to covering material he despises. I wonder how long he'll be able to stick it out.
This happens a lot in the gaming community, but at least you have the chance to change and adapt a little faster. I hope he finds something that doesn't disappoint him... and us too lol
The lines "we have unfinished business" and "attack me with everything you have" are ripped straight from Kill Bill. Only difference is that the Acolyte did nothing to build up a story behind those lines to give them any weight at all.
Pretty sure we can fix it a number of ways. - "We do not draw our blades unless we have to use them" - "Violence is not our first choice" - "Do you draw your blaster on everyone you meet?"
Was I the only person who noticed they copied The Fugitive practically scene for scene?! Train Crash = Ship Crash. Kimball escapes crash = Girl escapes crash. Tommy Lee Jones turns up at crash = Jedi turn up at crash. Cornered at the end of tunnel on a Dam "I didnt kill my Wife!" 'Jumps' = Cornered at the end of a tunnel on a Cliff "I didnt kill Karry Ann Moss!" 'Falls'.
Characters taking a lightsaber through their chest but dying from a small blade when it's convenient for the plot is such a videogame cutscene type stuff
I think the real reason the fire is so absurd is because it's right next to a bunch of people who still need suits to survive in space because there's NO OXYGEN
It needs an oxidizer - not necessarily oxygen. The bigger mistake is the campfire type flames - flames in space(with any oxidizer) act differently. But yes, it was a hopeless mess amongst many others.
Just like IRL, they're retconning Space. Most people don't keep up with that, but the new, official Canon of space is that: - Earth's atmosphere extends beyond the moon! - Space isn't REALLY a total vacuum! - Space isn't REALLY mostly empty There's other retconned stuff I can't recall right now.
Multiple scenes in SW history that completely undermine a statement like "a Jedi never draws their lightsaber unless they intend to kill" - Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan using their LS to melt through a door, many different Jedi using LS to simply deflect incoming blaster shots, the aforementioned Mos Eisley cantina scene with Obi-wan, etc, etc. Again we see that Disney Star Wars creatives are not actual fans of what has come before, they're just making up their own rules and history.
Well its not even followed in this show is it? To me it looked like Mae is calling the Jedi out for being a hypocrite and not following the rules and values of her order. Rules and values that the jedi in this older order seem to be forgetting anyway. And knowing that no Jedi in the trilogies follows this particular rule we can in my opinion assume that the rule has fallen completely in the 100 years that follows. This is the high republic era but we can already see the cracks forming in the values of the Jedi.
The writers seem to just randomly sprinkle in sentences that _sound_ deep and meaningful, but aren't really connected to the plot. Gives me flashbacks to Rings of Power's "The Sea is always right" nonsense.
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The storyline seems like a self-help where her life is inserted into the Star Wars universe. A young woman works for an evil, powerful man and sacrifices virgins, but there is also a good version of her, which isn't evil.
There's a shark movie, Deep Blue Sea. At the time it came out in 1992, Samuel L. Jackson was the only big name actor in the movie. LL Cool Jay was still mainly known for music and hadn't done much (if any acting before that). Others, like Thomas Jane, would become famous later. For the first half of the movie, Jackson looks like the lead. He's the highest ranking guy in the company, he's leading the group in trying to escape. He even gives a big inspirational speech. Then a shark jumps out of the water and eats him. That's how you trick an audience with a big name actor who is a decoy protagonist.
In some repspects, the first Alien movie does a variation of this as well. John Hurt was the only big name Actor in the film... and gets promptly killed off within the first half-hour of it. It can be done well, but not by these modern writers unfortunately.
Poor Theory, man. I really feel for the dude. Star Wars has been his bread and butter forever. Seeing it spiral down the shitter this far and still needing to make a living off of it has got to be rough. It's painful enough for all of us as regular fans. Man looks so defeated. The treatment of this world is unfortunate for us all. I pray that some day these things get rectified. One can hope, but I'm past the point of holding my breath. I'm glad though he is beginning to acknowledge the quite glaring faults of these shows and their writers. Cheers to everyone on the panel. Keep it up. You're all doing great work sticking up for the franchise and us fans.
Unless it's an XX accusing an XY of anything - he's then guilty until proven innocent, straight to jail with ZERO evidence other than someone with a va-hee-na said so.
I don't think he belongs. Not because I don't like him or anything like that. I just think he still didn't reach the level of detachment from the franchise, that is needed to be a part of the open bar. He obviously still cares and I it doesn't look like he enjoys how the others on the panel mock the shit (rightfully) of the show, or hate on Filoni (rightfully), etc.
9:26 The line, "A Jedi never draws his lightsaber unless he is willing to kill," reminds me of a line i heard from my Dad. I had pointed a BB gun at my brother and my Dad said I was never to do that with any gun that can kill. That I should never draw a gun on anyone unless I was willing to kill them. Unless I was willing to take that life and the responsibility that entails. That was a long winded story just to say; That Jedi master was stupid to let an ASSASSIN dictate the morality of taking a murder's life.
How the Jedi investigation would actually go down if the characters are not dumb: Black Jedi guy Force Mind Reads the Trade Federation ship captain. Black Jedi guy: "Oh, I see that you have memories of our suspect being on your ship at the time of the murder. Welp, she has an alibi. Onto the next suspect, Padawan!" And the rest of the show doesn't happen.
Moss died like Groundskeeper Willie. _"Ach, I hafta save the little fat boy an his famileh before 'is dah goos cuckoo."_ *gets stabbed _"Ach, I'm realleh BAD at this!"_
Or when Groundskeeper Willie tried to save Bart and Lisa from the cannibal teachers but was axed in the back by Skinner in the very same Treehouse of Horror.
Isn't it ironic that the line "meditate on the past or else you'll be doomed to repeat it" is in the show and yet they haven't learned from any of their mistakes and it's the same dumb shit all over again
Yeah, they aren't capable of understanding that - they just looked up "Quotable quotes" in a google search and they thought it sounded Jedi-ish, never did a thought enter their heads in regards to their own "shows."
I’m glad to see robot head in the crew now, just as glad as when I saw the little platoon get brought in. I love that all my favorite commentators are all coming together.
He's a terrific guy but he needs to turn away from any terrible storytelling it's just like with the clone wars I only recognize the multimedia project we have to stick to the original Canon the expanded universe and then when we get into that there are specific stories from that we have to stick to The gatekeepers alliance nia really does like the expanded universe Legends is a Disney term before that it was never used that's the reason why I only use expanded universe but I would like to see him do a fan film of the Darth Vader trilogy or an Old Republic TV series
@@Dustyjazz_ After watching Wheel of Time (2 episodes), it's become obvious that Hollywood, and especially 2020s Hollywood, is completely incapable of dealing with *any* structurally consistent and dramatically engaging magic system.
I mean most of the key players in Disney’s Star Wars seem to be people who’ve experienced little outside of their campus. They also admit to not caring for the source material all that much. How can you expect them to create exotic settings if all they know are cafes, bars and dorm rooms?
The wildest thing about all of this is that Disney purchased SW and Marvel to be their boy brands to balance with their girls' brand, aka, the Disney princesses. They then went and tried to turn it into another girls brand. These people aren't very smart when it comes to business. Also, Disney needs some serious competition.
They can't help themselves. They _have_ to market _everything_ towards a specific female demographic that either doesn't exist, doesn't particularly care, or was already part of the established fanbase they keep pissing off.
Someone else said it in a different video but it’s not the modern audience that exists now, it’s the modern audience they want to create by turning everything into shit
The whole thing about how laxly that they are with a suspected Jedi master killer, even Darth Vader wanted to freeze Luke to make sure he made it back with him.
Just think of all the potential Star Wars stuff they could of brought to life with this budget if there egos weren't in the way. The Darth Bane trilogy, the Palpatine book, Revans stories, the actual Thrawn trilogy instead of the side character we got, hell the Yuuzhan Vong war on the big screen would of been amazing, but nope. We get this, nice one Disney.
5:45 You know, a series featuring Jar Jar Binks as an occult Sith master and the power behind Palpatine's throne, using his "drunken master" techniques to disguise himself and fool literally everybody, even to the point of breaking the Rule of Two... that would actually rescue this shitshow, it's gotten so bad.
What I would love to see one day that I don’t think has ever been done is have a twin story with each one affiliated with opposite sides that are never onscreen together - and at the end it turns out that one twin has been dead for years and really it was just one of them manipulating both sides for their own end. That would be a huge twist on the normally expected format.
@@bart2873 True, although Niles is a classic unreliable narrator - he _claims_ that his evil deeds were done by the ghost of his brother, but he might be lying. But I agree that making it unambiguous that the "good" twin was really evil all along would be dramatically effective.
I was thinking it would have been neat for a 3rd party to use a new force power (cuz why not at this point) to look like Osha and partially frame her... all with the intent of making her think it might have been her dead sister to... I dunno... undermine the jedi and bring her to the darkside?
Who else was more excited for the Drinker’s review than the actual show?
Same. 💯
If last new thing I ever watched was the last jedi, would you be surprised?
Sitting back and watching the critics tear things apart has been a joy for a decade at this point.
I liked when Disparu counted how much it costs to film their main character walking slowly and staring. Tens of thousands. 😢
Meee 🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️
He released the first review like yesterday
Carrie-Anne Moss is a genius for doing this. She probably got a huge pay day, killed off quick, and has to do none of the PR bullshit. Well done to her.
+1
I almost ever blame an actor for acting.
One online comment suggested that she's actually the Sith, so she's not really dead. Would you put it past them?
@@johnhoran9840 That would be such a dumb twist if true... so yeah I think it probably has like a 95% chance of being a thing since the writers would pat themselves on the back for such an amazing "subversion" before going back to their hobby of snorting glue
Yes, badass Jedi who gets killed by a tiny knife.
kennedy spent $188,000,000.00 to show you how much she hates star wars fandom.
188 million of other people's money too.
No. worse. The brand of Star Wars did lose it's value of 4 billion $. Rest value is zero.
that´s commitment
That's a lot of money laundering
She spent but also gave much of that to her friends or "allies."
I love this. A Scotsman, an Englishman, a Canadian, a Kiwi and an Australian. It takes me back to the good old days of the Burma Railway POW camp
Whistles the Colonel Bogie March.
Yet another group of intelligent, resourceful POWs plotting their escape from Commandant Headland.
Gary has The Fellowship, this is The Commonwealth.
Lol had me in the first half.
Mauler is Welsh 🏴
My favorite part was when Leslie Hedlend guarded the door while Weinstein the Hutt "greeted" new hire slavegirl Leia
"Soon you'll come to appreciate my attentions."
- Jabba the Hutt,to Leia -
'Return Of The Jedi'
@@zacharymcmillan2788Wow, so Jabba stole that line from Harvey!
Back door to epstins island?
The Acolyte is nothing more than a bloated vanity project that does nothing but remind me that Star Wars is a hollow shell of its former self. 🎉
EXACTLY
Yeah the Leslye Headland self insert seems incredibly overt. Even down to the long lost sisters which apparently Headland had as a kid. She’s included a lot of her own life story as plot points but the problem is most people can’t relate to it. It’s not relatable life experience like learning how to deal with failure, it’s just things that are specific to her gender/sexual identity which most people just can’t relate to.
It's been a hollow shell of its former self since the Phantom Menace. I can't believe it's still a thing
Well don’t worry, she wants to use knights of the old republic as her next skin suit
@@gabepizza Revenge Of The Sith was good but yeah
It’s about as big of a mistake as Anakin blowing up the death star…
Yeah everybody knows jar jar blew up the deathstar.
Fools.
😂
And then he went...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
As was foreseen by Darth Jar Jar the Wise
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
Anakin really should've considered how many Vulcans were there before giving Voldemort the One Ring. Turns out that those apes together weren't strong enough.
Disney Star Wars, where a lightsaber won't kill you, but a little metal dagger can.
Also where fires burn in the vacuum of space
sacrifice style... No place for Father Son Holy Ghost inspirational Neo guides!
Nope. It's all about the Squiddy, the Sith. Its a paean to the neopagan gnostic occult desperate to create a BIG MEDIA Matrix of gender fluid promiscuity... .male entitlement, consumer distractions, child turned kid rite.
A knife to the chest is sacrifice symbol..
thesr mofos are sociopaths.
real actual sociopaths..
a fellowship of them...
I'm still laughing at the lightsaber going all the way through her and she's recovering in a hospital in the next scene. Qui-gon should be standing there as a force ghost saying, "Really?" 😂
Who knew that a little piece of metal is more deadly than 9000 degree plasma frying your internal organs?
@@battlesheep2552perhaps if Lesyle Headland was straight she would understand that size matters 😂
“Attack me with everything you have” was a line in Kill Bill
Yeah it was.. I guess it falls in-line with what that idiot Headland said about Acolyte is Kill Bill meets Frozen 🤦🏽♂️
@@patrickbernard6640 bahaha 🤣 thats a good one
As well as almost every classic Hong Kong 70’s era martial art movie ever made. The only thing that was wrong with it was her lips were in sync…
Let it go.
The Crapolyte
SW Theory just looks so sad but that he's trying to put on a smile. Kind of breaks my heart a little bit
He is such a nice guy...I think he lacks the internal malice to take the blowtorch to the project. that it deservers. Whereas MauLer has provided some absolutely wonderful reviews of Star Wars and Marvel projects. (Platoon, too. Hell, Drinker too. Also...)
@@megatrollificusIt's hard bc you still little nuggets of quality Star Wars, but they're so small, and buried under tons of shit. I think fans like him see that, and still have a sliver of hope for something better. And while Star Wars has been a product since the original blew up, they still tried to make a GOOD one. Just look at how revisionism is bringing up the prequels in peoples minds too. They're still viewed as mostly bad, with again little nuggets of goodness, but not as bad as what Disney's been giving us. Further proof Disney has no clue what they're doing with the franchise is in Jenny Nicholson's video (well worth the 4 hr watch) about the now shutdown Galactic Cruiser hotel. Big oof on that.
@War624 sometimes, after a cookout, your excrement will contain little under-digested corn. It looks just like the good stuff, and it reminds you of how much you enjoyed eating it the first time, but it's excrement now.
It looks like a 3rd grader wrote this show. I went in with an open mind and I try with star wars but my God disney is fucking killing star wars and stomping on the grave. No one know what they are doing over there and it shows.
Yeah I feel sorry for that guy, he has such passion for this franchise. Sith Lord KK and her minions are just using it to push their agenda laughing at our faces.
A Mistake? By no means. It was a intended insult.
👍
These discussions dance around it don't they? These SW series are just intentionally hateful, racist and pushing perversion.
Correct. That's why KK gets re-signed
Yeah I think they’re intentionally changing the rules of the universe with the goal of being able to crank out unlimited content. The combination of lightsaber wounds no longer being fatal, and the force creating new light and dark side users to create “balance”, means the story will never end and therefore the content/gravy train will never end. Until people stop watching of course which seems to be coming soon.
Especially that snarky little bit when it's implied nostalgia leads to the dark side.
You can see how the last few years crushed Theory's soul.
Yeah he’s talked before about how he had health issues in the past and Star Wars was one of the things that motivated him to keep going. It gave him hope that things could get better someday. So for him personally this has to be really tough as he has an intense personal connection to Star Wars, and to see it lose its values must hurt as he now knows that no sick kids are gonna be watching this and finding inspiration from it.
I only found him through his attempted podcast with mauler, and even the couple months it’s been since then there’s been a noticeable change.
he was trying to be hopeful n probably wanted be positive gor his channel, now that his channel is secondary n his sabers are giving him financial support he doesn't have to walk positive/middle ground @kontroledkhaos6460
So much really has happened, huh? Not just the many shows Disney keeps puking out, but hearing all the interviews and how much they resent the audience that helped make Star Wars as popular as it was. Not to mention SWT being attacked on all sides if I remember right. From the higher-ups at Lucasfilm like Pablo Hidalgo to the rabid hordes of Twitter’s more vile residents. It's enough to break any man's soul. People have resigned from life for less. Hopefully he doesn't do the same.
@@cicada8981after his comments on Andor, let him sleep in the bed he makes.
There is being a fan, then defending the very obviously bad.
Don’t forget it’s either desert dehydration or “let Filoni piss in your mouth”. Because Filoni is our only light in this tunnel.
My favourite part of the Acolyte was when Drinker blew up the Death Star.
"Go away now!"
BOOOOOM
Anyway, that's all I've got for now. Oh shit, screeecches the car.
You mean Anakin.....
"Millions of people died!".
@@strikeforcealpha9343"Nah,it'll be fine." 😂👍
Reaper pointed out that the twins have the same haircut even though they don’t know each other 😂
That's actually super common in twins raised apart studies. Genes matter way more than we think.
"They have powers that some have deemed...unnatural."
Rip- off of Rick James' look.
She super freaky....yeowww!
That happens irl though
180 million and they couldn't even give them different haircuts, which would have made it easier for everyone to tell them apart.
"It was inflicted upon us..." CD
Best 5 word review in history.
On a lighter note: There is a Western Australian movie coming out called The Emu War.
1/10th of a budget, 100x the fun.
Who doesn't love an emu?
@@irishbob26 especially when they win
Is that the war where the Emu defeated the Australian army?
@@irishbob26 the australian army
I'm thinking of my youth.
There was a TV show where rodd Hull had a puppet emu.
I loved that show
Did anybody else notice that when Osha crashed on the snow planet that she was never cold or that the Jedi knowing they were going to a frozen planet didn’t wear any snow gear & were also never cold?
For KK Star Wars, that would have been epic world-building. I mean THEN WHAT would you old school fans have wanted-some kind of flameless fire in space?? Quiet explosions in space? It's Star Wars, not some kind of Science Fair!
@@megatrollificus it’s attention to detail & the small things that let the viewers know that the creators actually care about the people watching it. If you are telling a good story, you can let some small things go but it can’t be both.
yes, and how the jedi got there 10 minutes later, they got there in less time then she spent in the ships cell
That sounds like an OSHA violation.
It's even more of a missed opportunity for some Hoth memberberries.
This is what happens when the writer's favourite Star Wars film is "All the Star Wars."
"The one where Moz gives Luke's laser sword to Leia and she kills Snoke Palpatine."
The second star war was great, but the new star war with Rey was the bestest eVaR!
When the show runner says:
"Star Wars saved my life. I mean, I just watched the commercials. For the action figures. But it was just so meaningful..."
Osha walks up to darth Vader, "attack me with all your strength.".
Vader: Proceeds to force choke her to death.
Vader: 🤨..🙄... 🫰🏻😑 *neck snaps*
But in this version, our brilliant screenwriter goes with...
Vader: I will destroy you utterly.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc then he'd just walk away before finishing her.
Now that's a REAL Sith! 😂👍
If Darth Vader had a dealing with Osha. He will just get workplace violations.
The knife fight scene between Trinity and the assassin is Lesley's pathetic attempt to emulate the fight between Beatrix and Copperhead in Kill Bill. That is how she pitched it to KK - Star Wars meets Kill Bill.
Even stole dialog! "Attack me with everything you have"
@@Whookieee Yup - she is that pathetic it is just painful.
It seems more like she based it on the Oren Ishii confrontation.
A robin flew at top speed into the window of my house, killing itself in the process.
I think it's a fitting metaphor for modern Disney
Poor little birb😢😭
I'm taking calculus this summer, and it has consumed my brain. I was expecting the beginning of that robin story to flow into a math problem.
I realized my mistake about the same time as the bird realized his.
That's a terrible metaphor. Now...if it was a female robin of colour, and it came back to life 10 stronger than any other bird, for no reason at all...THEN we got us a metaphor. Actually...more of an analogy by that point.
The sad thing is that Robin was probably better entertainment value than everything Disney released in the last decade combined.
And I only feel
Sorry for the Robin. I hope Disney suffers
I'm happy Theory is here. His more quiet and even tempered observations is a nice compliment to the passion of the others.
Yeah right, although I'm trying to find the full pod and I can't lol. Is it still up?
The biggest mistake is any Star Wars fan still giving Disney money.
Every person on this panel has disney plus and has watched all their shows. Just to turn around and make hours of hateporn off of it, giving it more power, attention and social media presents, just to make a buck off of your views. You're all being played by both sides. Am I the only one who see's clearly the irony in all this?! Why not go Ekkkk..the Acolyle blows.....and move on and make a 30 minute video about something worth discussing and bringing attention to?
Maybe it’s time for us to cancel our Disney+ subscriptions.
I Watched 5 minutes and turned that shit off
@@carson21211 'being played by both sides' That's a strange logic. I watch this panel to laugh at disney plus. They replace thousands of viewers who might otherwise subscribe to Disney plus (some at least). Disney isn't getting money from me, and I don't mind suffering an ad or two to laugh at them from a distance, so I'm not 'being played by either side'. If I'm entertained, I'm literally not being played, what don't you get? Do you think I'd not spend that time on some other source of entertainment? It really sounds like you're on Disney's side and just trying to sow dissent among their perceived enemies.
@@whenpigsfly8178 on disneys side BROTHER no way in this world or the next will i ever forgive them for thwta they've done to Star Wars/. ive gone mad thinking about a solution. Consume what you want. I know garbage before it is taken out to the bin.
The showrunner's spouse cast as the green Jedi has the acting chops of a potted plant
Ikr? She makes Brie Larson look like she attended Juilliard ffs. 😂
I disagree. Audrey 2 was the best character IN "Little Shop of Horrors".
MJ as Jar Jar: Ani are you Ok? Are you ok Ani? 😂
Gold !
Wildly underrated comment right here
Now I can't unheard it.
You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a Sith criminal
Every new disney Star Wars just makes me appreciate older Star Wars.
Tfw Honkai is a better space drama than Star Wars
New SW makes even the JarJar scenes look good.
@tonythekillab8189 Baffling so, as if it was made to replace the current Star Trek and Star Wars.
All the added CGI that Lucas put into the OT looks like shit. But that doesn't really effect the overall quality.
not only that but all the starwars rip offs are better then todays star wars
The Acolyte is an abomination of bad writing, bad acting, bad directing.
A woke “message” infused nightmare that completely destroys the star wars lore.
Good job Disney.
👍👍. Abomination is true
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@@OrchidAndromeda 👍
Have you watched it?
@@Matthew10950
We've all watched it and those are moments of our life we can't get back…
I legit feel bad for theory. His livelihood had gone from covering material he loves to covering material he despises. I wonder how long he'll be able to stick it out.
This happens a lot in the gaming community, but at least you have the chance to change and adapt a little faster. I hope he finds something that doesn't disappoint him... and us too lol
He needs to get back to making the Vader series. Been waiting on Episode 2 forever.
@@didimeanI doubt he has the drive anymore. His soul seems crushed & ground down.
The lines "we have unfinished business" and "attack me with everything you have" are ripped straight from Kill Bill. Only difference is that the Acolyte did nothing to build up a story behind those lines to give them any weight at all.
Jedi only draw their blades when they intend to kill - sounds like a lie told by a cult leader to make their followers hate the authority.
Pretty sure we can fix it a number of ways.
- "We do not draw our blades unless we have to use them"
- "Violence is not our first choice"
- "Do you draw your blaster on everyone you meet?"
I'm pretty sure that was a rule by the warrior class of Narn in the Babylon 5 TV series.
It is also reminiscent of the knives made of sand worm fangs in the dune novels.
Was I the only person who noticed they copied The Fugitive practically scene for scene?!
Train Crash = Ship Crash.
Kimball escapes crash = Girl escapes crash.
Tommy Lee Jones turns up at crash = Jedi turn up at crash.
Cornered at the end of tunnel on a Dam "I didnt kill my Wife!" 'Jumps' = Cornered at the end of a tunnel on a Cliff "I didnt kill Karry Ann Moss!" 'Falls'.
Sounds about right. Not to mention stealing from "Scream" with the star death in the opening.
My brain was itching trying to remember why this pacing seemed so familiar
Don't forget the lines and fight scene "stolen" from Kill Bill 😂
The entire series seems to be a case study for creative bankruptcy and plagiarism
The next two months of Open Bar will be all Acolyte…God help us
Woot open bar i want a drink.
This show is so going blow.
I'll get way more entertainment out of critics ripping the Acolyte than I would from actually watching the show
Well, if it seems to be a little too much, you can take a break and watch MauLers' 13-hour EFAP takedown of the show.
The IP should be called Star Wars and the Phantom audience.
You win internet today.
Characters taking a lightsaber through their chest but dying from a small blade when it's convenient for the plot is such a videogame cutscene type stuff
When that male actor kept saying "Anakin blew up the Death Star" during press interviews, I knew to avoid the Acolyte like the seven plagues.
Good to see Theory join the squad
I didn't know him, but man his first input was soooo on point
I didn't know him, but man his first input was soooo on point
He probably feels outta place considering the rest of the boys all hate it 😂
I was curious when he would pop up. They kind of ruined him emotionally via Kenobi.
@@ajnunez8788He for real looks like hes about cry.
I think the real reason the fire is so absurd is because it's right next to a bunch of people who still need suits to survive in space because there's NO OXYGEN
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
It needs an oxidizer - not necessarily oxygen. The bigger mistake is the campfire type flames - flames in space(with any oxidizer) act differently. But yes, it was a hopeless mess amongst many others.
Just like IRL, they're retconning Space. Most people don't keep up with that, but the new, official Canon of space is that:
- Earth's atmosphere extends beyond the moon!
- Space isn't REALLY a total vacuum!
- Space isn't REALLY mostly empty
There's other retconned stuff I can't recall right now.
Multiple scenes in SW history that completely undermine a statement like "a Jedi never draws their lightsaber unless they intend to kill" - Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan using their LS to melt through a door, many different Jedi using LS to simply deflect incoming blaster shots, the aforementioned Mos Eisley cantina scene with Obi-wan, etc, etc. Again we see that Disney Star Wars creatives are not actual fans of what has come before, they're just making up their own rules and history.
Rewriting history, the greatest pretenders.
Hey it's a prequel prequel, so they ditched a stupid rule over time? Oh God, now I'm helping them out.
Well its not even followed in this show is it? To me it looked like Mae is calling the Jedi out for being a hypocrite and not following the rules and values of her order. Rules and values that the jedi in this older order seem to be forgetting anyway. And knowing that no Jedi in the trilogies follows this particular rule we can in my opinion assume that the rule has fallen completely in the 100 years that follows. This is the high republic era but we can already see the cracks forming in the values of the Jedi.
The writers seem to just randomly sprinkle in sentences that _sound_ deep and meaningful, but aren't really connected to the plot.
Gives me flashbacks to Rings of Power's "The Sea is always right" nonsense.
Carrie Anne Moss is only dead until they say "Somehow, Trinity survived..."
Bet you a diddle dang joe to a damned if I know that she'll turn out to be Smilo Ren. 😏
Or appear in flashbacks.
"Do not directly attack a Jedi, you cannot kill them with blades or lasers!"
"A letter opener on the other hand..."
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The storyline seems like a self-help where her life is inserted into the Star Wars universe.
A young woman works for an evil, powerful man and sacrifices virgins, but there is also a good version of her, which isn't evil.
And they say that irony is dead. 😏
There's a shark movie, Deep Blue Sea. At the time it came out in 1992, Samuel L. Jackson was the only big name actor in the movie. LL Cool Jay was still mainly known for music and hadn't done much (if any acting before that). Others, like Thomas Jane, would become famous later. For the first half of the movie, Jackson looks like the lead. He's the highest ranking guy in the company, he's leading the group in trying to escape. He even gives a big inspirational speech. Then a shark jumps out of the water and eats him.
That's how you trick an audience with a big name actor who is a decoy protagonist.
Ever see Hitchcock’s Psycho? This plot idea was done back in 1960.
saw that in theater, the movie turned on that scene and i really started to enjoy it, its hard to describe
Don’t forget the hit song, “My hat is like a shark’s fin” that LL cranked out to accompany it
In some repspects, the first Alien movie does a variation of this as well. John Hurt was the only big name Actor in the film... and gets promptly killed off within the first half-hour of it. It can be done well, but not by these modern writers unfortunately.
@@thanatoast4389that song was beyond retarded.. catchy though lol
Jedi know when to draw the light saber, cause they are jedi. I feel like I lost 2 IQ points listening to The Acolyte world building.
I think kamala harris wrote this line 😂😂😂
Poor Theory, man. I really feel for the dude. Star Wars has been his bread and butter forever. Seeing it spiral down the shitter this far and still needing to make a living off of it has got to be rough. It's painful enough for all of us as regular fans. Man looks so defeated.
The treatment of this world is unfortunate for us all. I pray that some day these things get rectified. One can hope, but I'm past the point of holding my breath. I'm glad though he is beginning to acknowledge the quite glaring faults of these shows and their writers. Cheers to everyone on the panel. Keep it up. You're all doing great work sticking up for the franchise and us fans.
In a galaxy with clones, shapeshifters, and mind control, the claims of an eye witness isn't enough. (It's not even enough on Earth.)
Unless it's an XX accusing an XY of anything - he's then guilty until proven innocent, straight to jail with ZERO evidence other than someone with a va-hee-na said so.
Holy crap.
30 mins.
Drinkers clips are evolving.
I didn't realize it was 30min until you said it lol dammm
@@theseproblemsmatter1 just realised you can't watch this on the toilet.
@@irishbob26 skill issue.
@@90viper90 🤣
@@90viper90now I’m just imagining shitting like its rounds in Street Fighter.
The Acolyte was so bad I wuit my job, got divorced and dedicated my whole life to revenge
Good luck bud
You got this.
wuit?
I think Disney is going on the notion that some reaction is better than indifference. So, I guess by everyone hating it they are winning?
Damn!
The Blades and Phasers that she tells you not to worry about.
Meanwhile the Blades and Phasers in 'The Acolyte':
I love that Theory is a part of the crew now
I don't think he belongs. Not because I don't like him or anything like that. I just think he still didn't reach the level of detachment from the franchise, that is needed to be a part of the open bar. He obviously still cares and I it doesn't look like he enjoys how the others on the panel mock the shit (rightfully) of the show, or hate on Filoni (rightfully), etc.
9:26
The line, "A Jedi never draws his lightsaber unless he is willing to kill," reminds me of a line i heard from my Dad. I had pointed a BB gun at my brother and my Dad said I was never to do that with any gun that can kill. That I should never draw a gun on anyone unless I was willing to kill them. Unless I was willing to take that life and the responsibility that entails.
That was a long winded story just to say; That Jedi master was stupid to let an ASSASSIN dictate the morality of taking a murder's life.
the avengers of "roasting disney star wars" cinematic universe in one video
How the Jedi investigation would actually go down if the characters are not dumb:
Black Jedi guy Force Mind Reads the Trade Federation ship captain.
Black Jedi guy: "Oh, I see that you have memories of our suspect being on your ship at the time of the murder. Welp, she has an alibi. Onto the next suspect, Padawan!"
And the rest of the show doesn't happen.
Basically yes.
Huh. So Disney saves money and we are robbed these hilarious reviews?? Not a happy ending.
It happens, but differently.
Moss died like Groundskeeper Willie. _"Ach, I hafta save the little fat boy an his famileh before 'is dah goos cuckoo."_ *gets stabbed _"Ach, I'm realleh BAD at this!"_
Or when Groundskeeper Willie tried to save Bart and Lisa from the cannibal teachers but was axed in the back by Skinner in the very same Treehouse of Horror.
@@georgeray1906Ikr? And his final words are,"This is gettin old!" 😂😂😂👍
Isn't it ironic that the line "meditate on the past or else you'll be doomed to repeat it" is in the show and yet they haven't learned from any of their mistakes and it's the same dumb shit all over again
Yeah, they aren't capable of understanding that - they just looked up "Quotable quotes" in a google search and they thought it sounded Jedi-ish, never did a thought enter their heads in regards to their own "shows."
what they dont want to repeat is the past where star wars was good
@@thefool8224 hahahaha 😆
So stoked to see Theory on here with Drinker🙌🏼
The acolyte? More like the coprolite.
Damn, that's good😂
How about The Acoshite because that's what the show is just from the interviews for it.
@@georgeray1906 The Piece o' Shite?
Mistake would imply that they had good intentions and fell short. The Acolyte was intentional.
As intentional, arrogant and self-indulgent as The Last Jedi.
I still can't get over the fact that they named their protagonist after the Office of Safety and Health Administration
It was either that or shaniqua
There's a character in GOT named Osha, they probably copied it from there.
@@IRaoulDuke haha 😆
They named one twin after a government safety office,and the other after a month that features SW celebrations. 😂
I’m glad to see robot head in the crew now, just as glad as when I saw the little platoon get brought in. I love that all my favorite commentators are all coming together.
This is greatest assemble of any TH-cam panel I’ve ever seen! Star Wars theory, critical drinker, robot head, mauler and echo chamberlain!!!!
A bonfire in the vacuum of empty space about sums up the show then
Sloppy technical execution = no interest in details or continuity. The little things add up in a show or movie.
So its pretty much guaranteed evil twin will have a "good reason" or redemption later on ?
Reva anyone?
@@lazul6611I legitimately forgot she was a character until I read this comment. Damn you for making me remember her.
@@YormanGina she exists, but she's not a character
Sadly that could apply to any female characters that supposedly evil but is actually good when they're in no way good nowadays.
Darth Dunold Tremp the great Sith master.
Star Wars Theory I’m glad you’ve joined us
He's a terrific guy but he needs to turn away from any terrible storytelling it's just like with the clone wars I only recognize the multimedia project we have to stick to the original Canon the expanded universe and then when we get into that there are specific stories from that we have to stick to The gatekeepers alliance nia really does like the expanded universe Legends is a Disney term before that it was never used that's the reason why I only use expanded universe but I would like to see him do a fan film of the Darth Vader trilogy or an Old Republic TV series
Yoda also said "shit, this show is"
Poor Theory. Dude has no enthusiasm at this point.
If I was him, I'd write fun fanfics or to a "Fixing" series to rewrite the shyte they're giving us into something better.
@@Zac_Frostdisney would probably hit him with a cease and desist
@@ashplattsii1fan92 True. If he makes it different enough, he may be able to dodge that, though.
@@Zac_Frost
There's got to be a third option.
Leave Star Wars behind.
Some call it the Force, but we call it a thread. Pull the thread, change everything. It's the power of one, the power of two, the power of many.
😂
@@Dustyjazz_ After watching Wheel of Time (2 episodes), it's become obvious that Hollywood, and especially 2020s Hollywood, is completely incapable of dealing with *any* structurally consistent and dramatically engaging magic system.
Notably, when you pull a thread too far, the whole textile unravels. A fitting metaphor of the Kennedy -era Star Wars universe.
Ever tried to push a thread? Think about it.
The "Tampon Thread"
Qui-Gon Jinn drew his lightsaber to open a door.
He was trying to kill it
@@CaptainCastle 😆
Just goes to show how rotten the Jedi Order had become after the High Republic
Theory… don’t give up my friend - Your creativity and passion is what Star Wars needs - it’s in the hands of the fans now … not Disney
Our Wars, not Star Wars!
I mean most of the key players in Disney’s Star Wars seem to be people who’ve experienced little outside of their campus. They also admit to not caring for the source material all that much. How can you expect them to create exotic settings if all they know are cafes, bars and dorm rooms?
I love the fact that people are trying to make sense of a film written by people that have no idea what they’re doing and is hired for their ideology.
And their epidermis tone, and what's in their pantaloons, and who they rub it up against.
And WE are analyzing those sense-making efforts.
I wouldn't call it a film. It is a series
They know what they are doing. "Making things people would choose to watch" is not it.
The wildest thing about all of this is that Disney purchased SW and Marvel to be their boy brands to balance with their girls' brand, aka, the Disney princesses.
They then went and tried to turn it into another girls brand. These people aren't very smart when it comes to business.
Also, Disney needs some serious competition.
They can't help themselves. They _have_ to market _everything_ towards a specific female demographic that either doesn't exist, doesn't particularly care, or was already part of the established fanbase they keep pissing off.
Where’s that modern audience I keep hearing about? Still not watching things
Someone else said it in a different video but it’s not the modern audience that exists now, it’s the modern audience they want to create by turning everything into shit
"put your clothes on" that shit made me cringe so hard
Imagine that one gender swapped
Happy to see star wars theory in the panel! Love that guy...need him more on the Criticals channel!
Hearing Theory's sadness broke me
Frozen meets Star Wars: “Luke, let it go!”
Sabine: "Oh, look, I've been impaled."
The whole thing about how laxly that they are with a suspected Jedi master killer, even Darth Vader wanted to freeze Luke to make sure he made it back with him.
Watched Den of Nerds and the way my guy had bend backwards to make himself like the show was W I L D
Losh? 😆
Shilling at its finest..
Theory on open bar!!! I’ve been following drinker, theory and mauler/efap for years and to see you all together again is a treat!!!
"Truly this is the star to end all wars"
-Obi-Wan Bologna
Wasn't expecting star wars theory to be in this one
Everybody trying to make sense of this trash show is putting far more thought into it than the writers ever did.
They also use lightsabers to cut open holes in locked doors. There's probably a dozen good examples in all the movies and shows etc.....
I remember as a young adult wishing for more starwars, LOTR, and witcher. I was so wrong.....
That was an EPIC Yoda impression. I must say.
Just think of all the potential Star Wars stuff they could of brought to life with this budget if there egos weren't in the way. The Darth Bane trilogy, the Palpatine book, Revans stories, the actual Thrawn trilogy instead of the side character we got, hell the Yuuzhan Vong war on the big screen would of been amazing, but nope. We get this, nice one Disney.
Please, let them make 20 High Order slop shows before they even think of adapting Old Republic material.
@@jello4479 True, these maniacs have no idea.
Imagine your series is so bad, that Carrie Anne Moss noted for her penchant for doing syfy projects says , "let me out of this contract" 1 episode in.
Why do people get excited cause they got an actress that did one ok movie about 25 years ago
🤔..Memento? The (first) Matrix?
That's TWO movies 😅
She had no role in memento lol
The way the main actress looked at the camera and said "the force is diverse and panders" was such a heroic moment... Mmmm thank you Cathleen
Well, in Leslie Nielsen's Police Squad!, they always had a famous actor in the beginning of each episode who gets killed...
How dare you besmirch Police Squad with this comparison
Carrie-Anne Moss obviously signed on to the project before reading the script. Once she read it, she said ‘whoa, write me out of this pdq!’
Glad to see Mauler still hanging with Theory.
"It was inflicted upon us and we experienced it" 😂😂
5:45 You know, a series featuring Jar Jar Binks as an occult Sith master and the power behind Palpatine's throne, using his "drunken master" techniques to disguise himself and fool literally everybody, even to the point of breaking the Rule of Two... that would actually rescue this shitshow, it's gotten so bad.
I'd watch that 😆
I love how hard you guys were trying to find something that isn't utterly garbage in this show and failed lol
I click and i am immediately in love with the panel today!
X is LOADED with people defending this show and/or calling everyone who didn't like it an ista-phobe.
Twitter is loaded with sock-puppet accounts and bots.
*bots
@@NathanRyan08 true, true.
What I would love to see one day that I don’t think has ever been done is have a twin story with each one affiliated with opposite sides that are never onscreen together - and at the end it turns out that one twin has been dead for years and really it was just one of them manipulating both sides for their own end. That would be a huge twist on the normally expected format.
_The Other,_ Robert Mulligan, 1972.
Interesting. A little more supernatural than I was imagining - but I do stand corrected. Still a fun concept.
@@bart2873 True, although Niles is a classic unreliable narrator - he _claims_ that his evil deeds were done by the ghost of his brother, but he might be lying. But I agree that making it unambiguous that the "good" twin was really evil all along would be dramatically effective.
I was thinking it would have been neat for a 3rd party to use a new force power (cuz why not at this point) to look like Osha and partially frame her... all with the intent of making her think it might have been her dead sister to... I dunno... undermine the jedi and bring her to the darkside?
Re Space Campfires, Let's remember this is a universe where you charge a Death Star by sucking on the sun.
The "campfire" smacked of Spongebob and Patrick having that discussion.