The legacy of the Troubles still lingering over Northern Ireland

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  • @garthmcguigan2357
    @garthmcguigan2357 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I was born and raised in Belfast during "The Troubles". I left Belfast because of The Troubles and lived in USA and several countries in Asia to get away from it. I came back and realized that I loved the place, I am proud to call it my home and I am happy that my kids are growing up here. Northern Ireland has the best human beings in the world residing there, from both sides of the divide. I would love to see the day that we realise that there is more that connects us than divides us, and that our grievances are far smaller than the goal of peace. I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, but God, what a day it would be

    • @martinvegas1327
      @martinvegas1327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm on it my friend👍

    • @angusmeigh5141
      @angusmeigh5141 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sectarianiam was not just limited to Northern Ireland. It was common in many mainland British cities that had large Irish immigrant populations such as Glasgow, Middlesborough, Birmingham, London and Liverpool.

    • @martinvegas1327
      @martinvegas1327 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angusmeigh5141 😎👍

    • @martinvegas1327
      @martinvegas1327 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angusmeigh5141 Middlesbrough👍

    • @mrwizard7369
      @mrwizard7369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏

  • @brianirvine1339
    @brianirvine1339 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I left N Ireland in 81 because i feared my children's future . I have missed my homeland ever since. Australia is a good country but i just dont feel the love that i have for home Molly

    • @amysands8925
      @amysands8925 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lived in Australia for over 30 years. Home sick for most of that time. Came home in 2009 and wouldnt live anywhere else. Home is Home. No matter what country you go to you always feel a foreigner anyway not everyone agrees but that how I felt. Just glad to be home.

    • @AnthonyMonaghan
      @AnthonyMonaghan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel your pain brother. I left in 1994 and haven't been back since. I have lived in New Zealand for over twenty years. Home is and always will be Belfast, and as I grow older I get more and more homesick. I will return once my children are grown. I'd like to grow old 'back home' regardless of the political situation. Peace my friend.

    • @myamdane6895
      @myamdane6895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Out of curiosity where in Australia are you? I know in Penrith there's a lot of Irish, at least in New South Wales

    • @AnthonyMonaghan
      @AnthonyMonaghan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@myamdane6895 I live in Dunedin in New Zealand.

    • @eagleclaw1179
      @eagleclaw1179 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why didn’t you stay and fight for your country?

  • @RenegadeShepTheSpacer
    @RenegadeShepTheSpacer ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Reunification needs to happen. Brexit has been a disaster, the DUP won't even form a government and the rest of the UK isn't interested in keeping ahold of NI because we just cost them money. Time for Ireland to be free once again.

    • @TheNoSuchThingPodcast
      @TheNoSuchThingPodcast ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s not as simple as that. The Protestant community needs to agree to this which they aren’t ready to do yet. I grew up as a Catholic during the troubles. This will take probably another 20-30 years. Otherwise there could be a return to violence on the Protestant side. So I think what we need is time and not to rush this. There is equality now and Catholics have a voice which is huge. Let’s Northern Ireland heal before any talk of reunification. There is too much trauma still there

    • @geoffwhite7535
      @geoffwhite7535 ปีที่แล้ว

      trust sinner fein, your a joke

    • @noodlyappendage6729
      @noodlyappendage6729 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Reunification needs to happen. The 26 counties should rejoin the UK. Brexit is going well. The UK is now a part of the largest trade bloc in the world while at the same time has a free trade deal with the EU. CANZUK is also on the cards.

    • @munsteerarla6585
      @munsteerarla6585 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@noodlyappendage6729Unification I agree with. We storm London and we name it Derrylondon🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@noodlyappendage6729 one Ireland one island Erin go bragh 🇮🇪💯

  • @jerimow8400
    @jerimow8400 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you so much for opening my eyes to this struggle. ❤❤

  • @TheCatholicSoldier
    @TheCatholicSoldier ปีที่แล้ว +21

    *To Whom It May Concern*
    I hold my head in shame for I am an ex-Brit and I would like to take the time to apologize for baring arms in your Country during December 1987 - April 1988.
    I was based at Fort Whiterock, Springfield Road, Turflodge, to this day I remember so many terrible incidents will remain with me forever.
    The Riots in Turflodge before and after The Gibraltar 3 were being returned home, dealing with the aftermath of the two Signalers who drove onto the funeral presession, finding a man who had just been knee-capped on The Andersonstown Road.
    Known now about the betrayal of The British Government and all the lies and cover up's that happened during my time and all the collusions with The RUC and The British Government with regards to The Funerals and all the drama's that went along with them sicken me.
    May All Concerned Who Lost Their lives During The Troubles Rest In Peace, Amen.

  • @iodedonpepto
    @iodedonpepto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anyone who’s interested in learning more about this should read “say nothing”. Incredible book

  • @ATLmodK
    @ATLmodK ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I disagree that the Good Friday agreement was seen as a magical fix all. I think most saw it as an agreement that left each side wanting more, but the best thing that had happened in 30 years in that there was peace.

    • @Oldsoho
      @Oldsoho ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair gave in to Terrorism. The message the world got was "Terrorism Works". This is reason there is a terrorism problem in the world today. History is the judge.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Oldsohoand Blair participated in terrorism with the western allies in the illegal invasion of Iraq

    • @eddieburris675
      @eddieburris675 ปีที่แล้ว

      Left each side wanting more? I guess that’s a true statement if you take it at face value. Yes both sides wanted more, fact. That’s not what you mean, you alluded to equality which is 100% wrong. The agreement was is no way equal or right. British got the way better end of THEIR deal. Never have a seen a group of people do something everyone in the world knows is wrong even themselves I mean you Brit’s won’t even put it in your history books/classes 😂 invade our island, treat us lower than cattle (literally, if you know about the “British cows” during the famine,you know) kill our ppl then turn around say y’all are the victims 😢 PLEASE

  • @raymondgoldie6162
    @raymondgoldie6162 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Not really Catholic and Protestant. It was Unionist and republican.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ulster Unionists Protestants challenged Irish Roman Catholic Irish Republican's to sectarian conflict and lose constantly is the true story the media covers up

  • @kateemma22
    @kateemma22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I visited Belfast in 2018 and as an Australian it was pretty easy to talk openly to people of both sides about what has and hasn't changed in the 20 years since the GFA. Unfortunately for too many, especially in the suburbs around Falls and Shankill, the Troubles haven't ended and they still vehemently HATE the other side. I do believe the fact that so many have never been held accountable for their actions is part of it.

  • @joehirschegger7723
    @joehirschegger7723 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I visited Belfast in August 2023 and we took the Black cab tour on recommendation of many. It was such an eye-opening experience. In the end, I think, it's the government that needs to step up and address all the dirtiness, whether they are complicit or not. Even today, there is no Irish government because of the unwillingness of current politicians to see past their own interests. I wish the people of Ireland get what they deserve...an everlasting peace and justice.

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is sick to Glorify murder ..

    • @PS-ru2ov
      @PS-ru2ov 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Northern Ireland not part of Ireland(Republic of Ireland) it is part of the United Kingdom

    • @johnpaulmartinherron
      @johnpaulmartinherron 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PS-ru2ovThere is no need for that sort of talk. Of course N.Ireland is part of the island of Ireland. Yes, it's not part of the Republic, but that's simply a political reality. At some point a majority may well it finally bury the hatchet of division in Ireland and vote to reunite the island as it once was ..

  • @ltwlof4967
    @ltwlof4967 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    there needs to be a process where the victims find out the truth they desperately need to heal and the perpetrators get punished for the hurt they created. but this needs to happen by north Ireland people for the people

    • @123YMR
      @123YMR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The perpetrators were the British government, the native Irish population were beaten into submission and treated as second class citizens in NI, after the imposed partition of Ireland in 1921 by Britain, the troubles started after the British government crushed them after they tried a civil rights movement to get equal rights to the planted British population, it took 30 years of fighting for them to get equal rights, the British government fought them every step.

    • @louise_rose
      @louise_rose 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looking at this from outside the British isles (I'm from Sweden, and old enough to remember when Northern Ireland was steadily in the news), it's kinda hard to feel any sympathy for the PIRA. Yes, if course Ireland had been wronged by the British and I do realize that some of the protestants in Ulster were determined to keep up a kind of colonial order - but the PIRA was steadily targeting civilians and keeping up a reign of terror even among their own.
      To most outsiders they looked no better or more just than the Baader-;Meinhof gang, perhaps even worse (BM after all attacked mostly politicians and people they felt represented continuity between the 3rd R and West Germany, while the PIRA bombed schools and pubs and claimed that they morally represented all of Ireland!) and thereby just breeding moe hate, pain and anger. It was a very difficult age.

    • @harrywhite9030
      @harrywhite9030 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's really not that simple. If it was, this would have been resolved decades ago.

  • @Jim54_
    @Jim54_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
    This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
    People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics, ever since..

  • @rmf9567
    @rmf9567 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don’t think that’s what the channel is trying to do but you are right that the west is doing pretty good compared to the rest of the world. That is just a fact.

  • @Andrew-lp6sl
    @Andrew-lp6sl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There exists a great quote in film "this war will be fought amongst us" I think of that when watching reading about all that happened.

  • @hugmc
    @hugmc ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Have faith little people off Ireland it’s a thousand times better than it used too be 👍

    • @chrisrooney8820
      @chrisrooney8820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TF you calling little

    • @hugmc
      @hugmc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisrooney8820 well I am 6,3 and live in Ireland and I am Irish ☘️ what does TF stand for?

    • @chrisrooney8820
      @chrisrooney8820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hugmc I'm Irish too granted, I'm 5'10 smedium level

    • @patrickodonnell9770
      @patrickodonnell9770 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you ok 😂

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an Arse .... condone murder .. .... Never glorify murder ..

  • @brodequin8261
    @brodequin8261 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The people deserve better than this, ultimately its up to the people themselves without looking to London or Dublin for answers. Anyway i wish them well.

  • @annmcneill5559
    @annmcneill5559 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The young people are the way forward , they haven't grown up with the terrible violence that we older people have , they can see the bigger picture and are much more tolerant for that, all sides need to admit what happened was wrong and victims and their families need justice now so we can draw a line under the past and move forward together .

    • @tuforu4
      @tuforu4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The atrocious on both side were appaling.
      Psychosis there would kill their brothers.

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      The IRA brought Murder and mayhem to 3 generations . Now its all a turf war over drugs. Its going to take another 3 generations to put it behind them . Thank for F*** All Adams and Co .. God may forgive you . But I don't

  • @gazzy5303
    @gazzy5303 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    To say “Nobody want’s a return to the troubles” simply isn’t true.

    • @joanofarc708
      @joanofarc708 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly their just keeping a lid on things

    • @Ard-mhacha-abu
      @Ard-mhacha-abu ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Honest, decent folk don’t want a return to conflict.

    • @gazzy5303
      @gazzy5303 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ard-mhacha-abu I agree mate but that isn’t everyone, not even close.

    • @beslanintruder2077
      @beslanintruder2077 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time will tell, I doubt most people want to go back to open bombing, drive by shootings and soldiers constantly in their neighborhoods.

    • @Rownaldo1
      @Rownaldo1 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean scum of the earth vermin Saoradh/ New IRA?

  • @melissabyrne8749
    @melissabyrne8749 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What you see here are the implacations and repercussions of The British Empier as they manipulated the people and land of Ireland

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shit ...the Propaganda book of fools has been opened again. Ffs turn the page and shut that book once and for sll ..fool

  • @loneprimate
    @loneprimate ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Frankly, I think dragging it all out from 30, 40 years ago and putting everybody on all sides through it and dividing people again and mucking up all the secularism is THE DUMBEST THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO after a generation and a half of relative peace but still very little coming together as a single people. Absolutely the worst idea.

    • @MiloManning05
      @MiloManning05 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to do with religion

    • @tuforu4
      @tuforu4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ian BIBLE PAISLEY STIRRED it up for no ones good.

    • @iwazhere7077
      @iwazhere7077 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the point of the (propaganda) video.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@iwazhere7077the video is made by Australian media...hardly propaganda...journeyman is based there if I'm correct

  • @pfdrtom
    @pfdrtom ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So, Amy Rafferty has a picture of Castro and Stalin on her wall? Maybe it's just art for arts sake but a picture can be worth a thousand words.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe owns a barbershop, picture of stylish beards and moustaches

    • @Shoestring111
      @Shoestring111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      'Activists' 🙄

  • @KimPhilby203
    @KimPhilby203 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Visiting regularly from South... great food ,bars etc..but its a deeply unsettling place ..

  • @percycolburn6607
    @percycolburn6607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's with the loss in audio

  • @acegangmobile5491
    @acegangmobile5491 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why did the british do this to Ireland?

    • @thcdavies8479
      @thcdavies8479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The British government was in control of the whole island of Ireland. Ulster province was the most unruly part of Ireland. The implanted the most unruly people from mainland Britain Scottish/English borders. They wanted more protestants in Ireland

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      The IRA done this .as the American dobe it do the Native American tribes.. get your own house in order before you cone with s***

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Money power like all Medieval Monarchy/Crowns

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thcdavies8479Ulster Scots Presbyterians have turned out it be incompetent Loyalists they had that little Irish Republican rebellion in 1798 led by Ulster Scots Presbyterians.

    • @mickyzzzeee
      @mickyzzzeee หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’ve been doing it for centuries. This one is just closer to home is all

  • @ianhauber2813
    @ianhauber2813 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is an audio cut out at around the 15 minute mark

  • @JonathonHyndman-qh7zs
    @JonathonHyndman-qh7zs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The troubles lasted what most will say around 40 years but in my personal opinion the troubles have been way back from the days of the famine. Though throughout history many men and women have been held to a unwritten code psycologically so too speak but then. To elaborate on that I think that people from say the shankill and people from ardoyne or the bogside and the opposite part in Derry. Im not too sure on the "opposite". What I'll start with is that on both side of the fence so many have seen so much pain and suffering which has either directly or indirectly effected them in ways that even at the time might not be understood but still the full effect is what it says. I think in all honesty that this wont last much longer there may still too this day be some sectarianism I know that for sure but we have almost began to coinside with each other for what may be referred to as a greater good i.e money, a safer environment or even if you will some more friends. Many men and women will be effected in the future by this as myself Im 28 and it's been such a big focal point. That's an understatement but none the less an honest take on a 28 year olds outlook on life in belfast. With so many changes happening daily it's a constant stuggle for people's minds to come to terms with anything maybe. I'm saying this on behalf of most not all. I'd like to put emphasis on that last sentence there.

  • @grahamr-oj3wf
    @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dey should go where dey call home England.. Ireland for Irish 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @Gayasshunk1923
      @Gayasshunk1923 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Côte d'Ivoire for the Côte d'Ivoirians ❤❤🇨🇮🇨🇮

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gayasshunk1923 Irish or English my friend I don't know what Ur saying

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gayasshunk1923 u are from the Ivory coast n dlvorians was it used Wen u wanted french oppression out 🤔

    • @RazorMouth
      @RazorMouth ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@grahamr-oj3wf you used the Ivory Coast flag 😅

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RazorMouth only coped dat now good spot bro dats wat nice blunts to ye 🇮🇪

  • @edwardodonnell6857
    @edwardodonnell6857 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At the moment in the UK the Tories are robbing the working class blind every way they can raising interest rates 12 times the point is when people in power make selfish decisions ordinary working families suffer.There needs to be a political strategy and structure that represents and gives equal opportunity to everyone regardless of financial status perceived class tribal affiliation or religious orientation.We need to work at solving problems for the greater good not easy but better than war.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol stop funding genocide and famine and murder around the world with your Yankee bosses and you'll have more cash

  • @RazorMouth
    @RazorMouth ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It was a war, people need to try and move on.
    Constantly shouting for justice etc. is only dragging out the pain and passing it on to the youth.
    It was 25 years ago when it ended.

    • @100proofcrew
      @100proofcrew ปีที่แล้ว

      But England is still illegally occupying half of a fucking island that isn't theirs

    • @abbeyjane5014
      @abbeyjane5014 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree I'm part of the young generation and I'm sick of it we need to move on to the future I'm an atheist too the old generation lives in the past

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ulster Unionists want to nail Sinn Féin/IRA but are only nailing Northern Ireland with the Republic of Ireland permanently Brexit support was first nail in the coffin for the Act of Union 1800.

  • @sunrayisdown1690
    @sunrayisdown1690 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Troubles were started in 1967/8 by the unionists a dnd the British government. Why does no one including the England want to talk about it ?

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly the UVF killed 2 irish nationalists in 1966, 2 years before the civil rights movement had even mobilised, the free state government and especially the british government along with unionists here never speak about that it’s always sinn féin/IRA did this and did that

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      It started in 1916. With treason to their fellow man

    • @sunrayisdown1690
      @sunrayisdown1690 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really. Do your homework mate. I done 2 tours in Northern Ireland. How many you ?

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were started in the 1916 Easter uprising..then 1921/22 civil war. Then the ,1950s border campaign Then The again in the 1960s . The soldiers werd brought into protect the Nationalist Diehards and they started to Shoot them .. get your history from the facts not from murders Gerry Adams ..
      A tour ... you have NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS

    • @sunrayisdown1690
      @sunrayisdown1690 ปีที่แล้ว

      Royal Marines. Who the f*ck are you to interrogate me .

  • @igorzkoppt
    @igorzkoppt ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For the British government, pursuing the IRA and others implicated in terrorist acts means that in return, the British army and others would also have to be held accountable for their actions.
    Full immunity for the Irish republicans = you can't realistically ask accountability for what the British authorities did and supported.
    I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's the actual motive right now.

    • @joanofarc708
      @joanofarc708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The British literally got away with murder in Ireland

    • @loneprimate
      @loneprimate ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, and fair's fair. You either all agree to put it behind you with a clean slate, or you keep rubbing salt in a wound you never let heel and then wonder why, in 2023, you still can't have a pint in "themun's" part of town.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’d have a point if you weren’t utterly wrong. What is this IRA immunity you speak of? IRA members are still at risk of prosecution for any acts that have not passed the statute of limitations. So anyone suspected of murder who has evidence collated against them can be arrested and charged. Letters were sent that told hundreds of suspects that they were unlikely to be prosecuted unless new evidence against them came to light which meant they were always at risk of prosecution. Even those “letters of comfort” are not worth the paper they’re written on as the British government has been challenging the legality of the letters that it sent to these people. John Downey had been sent one of the letters which was overturned in 2014. He was extradited to the U.K. from Ireland in 2019 and is currently in the courts trying to stop his trial for killing two soldiers in 1972, proceeding. Half a century later and he’s still being prosecuted. As he should be.
      So maybe look at the tiny handful of British soldiers who were ever even charged with the many murders they committed and you might realise where the immunity actually lay. It’s all well and good having an opinion but at least try not to be utterly ignorant of the topic before proffering it.

    • @joanofarc708
      @joanofarc708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David Reynolds so the British and those fruitcake "loyalists " were totally blameless ffs cop on ,what about the black and tans ,the deliberate starvation on the Irish during the famine the eradication of the Irish language, the stealing of Irish land the plantation of ulster,Ireland you seem to forget about that

    • @munsteerarla6585
      @munsteerarla6585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@georgerickman9314 British soldiers who served? You mean terrorists in foreign lands.

  • @G.I.N.N
    @G.I.N.N ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Law has nothing to do with Justice

  • @Oddly1970
    @Oddly1970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learn by your mistakes don’t let the future be your past .

  • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
    @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THIS CONFLICT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.

    • @dod4004
      @dod4004 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's just pure coincidence that one side is overwhelmingly protestant and the other Catholic? Spooky.

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dod4004 religion is used as a classic means of the british age old tactic of divide and conquer, the old conflict in ireland when the british first invaded i suppose was religious with catholics being historically stripped of all rights by the protestant colonists, but the troubles isn’t a religious conflict at its core i’m from the north and it’s really down to national identity e.g. irish vs british, the founding father of irish republicanism was a theobald wolfetone and he was a protestant and even one of the founders of the INLA ronnie bunting was a protestant but both were irish republicans so obviously the conflict isn’t so cut and dry because no one here gives a fk what your religion is

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha. And slavery wad nothing to do with Blacks. .what an A/H

    • @xEvan117x
      @xEvan117x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Weathervane01no

    • @kateemma22
      @kateemma22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not as simple as religion - it's also political ideology and abject poverty as well - but it can't be denied that in NI Catholics tend to go towards the left and Protestants towards the right. The last election has shown a rise in middle ground/centrist parties though thanks to the growth of young people in the city centre.

  • @Lar308
    @Lar308 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Anywhere the Brits have been they always without fail have left a legacy of bitterness, violence and division. We saw this and are still seeing it in India / Pakistan, Cyprus, the middle east, Africa, the EU. That's because Imperial britain's modus operandi was always to divide and conquer and give power to the minority - and if there was no minority they would just ship them in like the Russians are doing now in Ukraine.

    • @munsteerarla6585
      @munsteerarla6585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@georgerickman9314The British was the empire with the largest use of slaves so one example isn't going to fix you of all the wrong they did. They are responsible for the death of millions of people in famines which they orchestrated all around the world so don't use a small example to say Britain is great.....

    • @ciaranmac8689
      @ciaranmac8689 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bull shit the City of London banks are behind most if not all of it.

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree ,800 years of it we took no more one Ireland one island Erin go bragh 🇨🇮💯

    • @stiofain88
      @stiofain88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@georgerickman9314 Then why are they constantly asking you to return stolen artifacts and for reparations?

    • @stiofain88
      @stiofain88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgerickman9314 Ah I see. And those concentration camps in South Africa and Kenya....how did they trick you into that?

  • @irish5347
    @irish5347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hard to take communists and socialists seriously.

  • @123YMR
    @123YMR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s was never a religious war it was a war between the native Irish and planted British population, they just happened to have different religions. The media sold it as a religious war, it wasn’t.

    • @johndillinger8424
      @johndillinger8424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How native is native?
      Am I native as my family has been here since 1870?
      Bobby Sands native?
      He was from a mixed marriage.
      Was his Mum not native?

    • @putler965
      @putler965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then why was Lenny Murphy a Protestant terrorist?

  • @lazylad8544
    @lazylad8544 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A United Ireland will happen. Its important that both sides honour the good Friday agreement. Fight for peace like you fought for conflict. (But not literally). Stop the bs with the religious crap.

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the conflict is not religious at all and it infuriates me when the old “catholic vs protestant” bs is spewed because i know protestants who consider themselves irish nationalists same as me, it’s a conflict on nationality nothing else

  • @johnkennedy972
    @johnkennedy972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A find that sad more people have died with drugs alcohol taking there own life’s etc than more people died during the war

  • @RazorMouth
    @RazorMouth ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Problem was, is and always will be partition of the island.
    The Anti-Treaty side was right in the 1920s. Even Thatcher knew it in the end.

    • @beslanintruder2077
      @beslanintruder2077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good call

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Michael Collins taught it was a start I wonder if he lived wud we av our unfied Ireland Erin go bragh 🇮🇪

  • @johnphelan6623
    @johnphelan6623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He even had to stop after he claimed he needed "hip replacements" due to the troubles...... 😂😂😂

  • @kovy689
    @kovy689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you look closely, you can see Lebron traveled.

    • @eddenoy321
      @eddenoy321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google 'black Irish' ...he's been around...

  • @Marius_vanderLubbe
    @Marius_vanderLubbe ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That would be the north of Ireland.

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ders no north to us Irish it's one beautiful island Erin go bragh 🇮🇪

  • @eddieburris675
    @eddieburris675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blonde woman towards the end 10/10. Gorgeous and is on the right side and she knows it too! Make ‘em answer for their sins!

  • @Ramthian-q8v
    @Ramthian-q8v หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤

  • @eagleclaw1179
    @eagleclaw1179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is such propaganda
    Still making it about Catholics and protestants and not about the British

    • @putler965
      @putler965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It isn't about the British. It's about the majority of the population wanting to stay in the UK. The British have repeatedly stated they will leave if the majority of the population wants them to. The majority doesn't.

    • @eagleclaw1179
      @eagleclaw1179 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@putler965
      Historically it is absolutely about the British government and the British occupation of Ireland
      Would you like to go over some historical facts of the British governments racism towards the Irish? Do we need to go over the historical facts regarding the “Easter Rising”, “home rule”?
      I mean seriously are you gonna sit here and say that it has nothing to do with Britain?

    • @putler965
      @putler965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eagleclaw1179 Has the British government said it would respect the will of the majority of the people of Northern Ireland? That's been its position since The Troubles began. The IRA, however, didn't respect votes and chose violence instead. There isn't an "occupation" of Northern Ireland because the majority of the population wants to remain in the UK. This has to do with the people of Northern Ireland and the will of the voters.

    • @putler965
      @putler965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eagleclaw1179 But if you think the will of the majority of voters in NI doesn't matter, then I guess the same goes for all the non-native voters in North America. Indeed, Irish continue streaming into North America, and last time I checked it's land that was taken by force from other people (and not 500+ years ago but only about 200 years ago). I suppose Native Americans and First Nations can try using violence to take it back by force.

  • @dougcarroll9623
    @dougcarroll9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Left in 94

  • @edwardmurphy7792
    @edwardmurphy7792 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The legacy of plantation, used by every empire everywhere, conquer ,root out the native population replace with people who will be loyal to tge empire , snd rule ,except it never fully works ,the remnants of the orifinal populations persist and in time grow stronger until conflict between the two groups breaks out, and what can the mother country do ,but cone to the aid of, remember RHODESIA ,kith and kin, hitler used it in the sudetenland, putin uses it in eastern UKRAINE and england uses it in the north,but is now growing tired ,as it is no longer of strategic value, and the u.k. has no longer an empire .. also it is costly to administer... lets face it brexit broke it, when will the penny drop..?? UKRAINE FREE AND AT PEACE

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uhh Britain definitely did NOT support Rhodesia
      You need a History lesson

  • @arthurp-er1yz
    @arthurp-er1yz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You Irish are wonderful, awesome souls! Unite, be one, and be a great people "for Christ's Sake"

    • @britainman3459
      @britainman3459 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You need to learn the history culture and opinions of multiple distinct cultural groups to comment on anything especially northern ireland you clearly haven’t done that

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok then give America back to the Native American and Canadians peoples . Get your own house in order before you preach shit too others

    • @a81758
      @a81758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They need to open their bible and apply God's word to their life.

  • @northred4930
    @northred4930 ปีที่แล้ว

    No harm to that Rafferty boy he talks some balls

  • @belfastbhoy5679
    @belfastbhoy5679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didnt befriend a protestant until i left school at 19 and entered the workplace, i was only born in 1995.
    It wasnt by choice, just the areas i grew up in were 99% nationalist and i went to catholic schools.
    Thats the problem, regardless of there being no conflict, ignorance breeds fear, a lot ot the times thats then exacerbated by the older generations stories of the troubles (normally 1 sided) protestants will talk about la mon and shankill bombings, catholics will talk about greysteel and bloody sunday.
    There needs to be a fact based, shared curriculum about the troubles. In history, we learnt about the emancipation, robert emmett and the easter rising, the civil rights movement and British brutality. I would hazard a guess in state schools the version of history taught is quite different, it gives younger people a one sided view on the troubles.
    I will freely admit that i hold strong views on the topic myself, based on the views of my parents growing up and what ive been told by peoole around me. Its something thats hard to shake regardless of how self reflective one is.

  • @caitlynmcconnell9006
    @caitlynmcconnell9006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean the British could just go home…how is it after all this time, Britain is still allowed to militarily occupy Irish land.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell ปีที่แล้ว

      Or you could go home
      Get cracking

    • @Weathervane01
      @Weathervane01 ปีที่แล้ว

      And America is allowed to occupy Native American tribes lands .. the treaties were actually 99 year leases.. don't talk such shit

  • @stephenmcguire8545
    @stephenmcguire8545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its easy talking about it.

  • @febash1702
    @febash1702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a Crying Shame 😿😿

  • @Selous_Scout
    @Selous_Scout ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those catholics blame us for looking after our kif and kin in Northern Ireland but they took up arms to just remember that

  • @FurtherAM
    @FurtherAM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FREE IRELAND! England get OUT!!!

  • @gottmituns813
    @gottmituns813 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO HUNS IN OUR AREA

  • @JohnJohn-zn8ib
    @JohnJohn-zn8ib ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pity Thatcher wasn’t taken out.

  • @ingridthurston-polkey653
    @ingridthurston-polkey653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s really sad that after fifty years of killing and more the victims both sides and victims in England they did not ask to be terroirs and the same right over the world 🌎 god gave life to us and not to be taken by killing it just sad 😢😢😢🙏

  • @TheKieran65
    @TheKieran65 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Belfast starting to look more like Africa now. Brits out everyone else in is the cry now 😡

    • @MrGrifft
      @MrGrifft ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have brain damage or something?

    • @noodlyappendage6729
      @noodlyappendage6729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Belfast? You mean Dublin!

    • @ciaranmac8689
      @ciaranmac8689 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Noodly Appendage its happening everywhere

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noodlyappendage6729 Brits out to where dey belong where dey say Ur a citizen off England Ur beliefs Ur culture is in England unified Ireland Erin go bragh 🇨🇮🇨🇮💯

    • @wildirishladdavy7965
      @wildirishladdavy7965 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it’s a disaster with all these illegal immigrants getting free housing hotels etc etc ….

  • @wildirishladdavy7965
    @wildirishladdavy7965 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unfortunately Belfast is the new Birmingham. RIP Belfast 😢

    • @DMurrayNYFL
      @DMurrayNYFL ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, I'm an extremely novice historian and was hoping could you please explain this comparison?

    • @wildirishladdavy7965
      @wildirishladdavy7965 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMurrayNYFL Ireland is going to end up like England. Over run with illegal immigrants.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DMurrayNYFLlol
      Don't he daft

    • @DMurrayNYFL
      @DMurrayNYFL ปีที่แล้ว

      @lockandloadlikehell it's a genuinely sincere question man. My bad if being 'daft' was a putoff ,but I was seriously looking for thoughtful perspective.

  • @myoldvhstapes
    @myoldvhstapes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tracy Chapman sure has changed!

  • @breenirwin2356
    @breenirwin2356 ปีที่แล้ว

    The paramilitaries will always be there

  • @leedoug326
    @leedoug326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Jonathon Ball and Tim Parry get justice. 3 and 12 years old..
    Hypocritical at best.

  • @patrickodonnell9770
    @patrickodonnell9770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ireland unfree shall never be at peace

  • @krugerfuchs
    @krugerfuchs ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to stop causing this crap we've had enough

  • @OskarMikee
    @OskarMikee ปีที่แล้ว

    Never be at peace

  • @marc-pu5dx
    @marc-pu5dx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A shoutout to the two so called activists. Do you think that the Provos that where given OTR letters should be revoked and held accountable for their crimes? They where given them because I’m sure there was evidence that could put them on trial but to get the good Friday agreement Tony Blair give them this. You want to see loyalists on trial and ex soldiers but the ones that carried out the likes of la mon let off lol aye sure the day they done La mon they where just protecting their community.

    • @arthurgoodness7865
      @arthurgoodness7865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One man was convicted for the La Mon bombing. Two out of the other three members of the bombing group were paid agents of RUC Special Branch and so they were never going to be charged/convicted, although the PIRA did kill one of them when it became public knowledge that he was a paid RUC agent.
      OTR Letters, people have got a lot of mileage out of those and in most cases get it wrong.
      Families who lost loved ones to loyalist and British Force violence are just as entitled to justice as families who lost loved ones to republican violence.

    • @marc-pu5dx
      @marc-pu5dx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arthurgoodness7865 of course they are 100 percent. But that’s not what’s happening. Ex soldiers being trialled for their crimes and so they should if they done wrong. No Provos being trialled for their crimes as they have OTR letters! It’s one sided FACT. And Sinn Fein Glorify the killers. Just look a few weeks ago John Finuicane attending South Armagh PROVOs fun day. Scum.

    • @paulduffy4585
      @paulduffy4585 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@arthurgoodness7865 But they will never get it because the British government were balls deep in many of the worst atrocities. And the real elephant in the room is that the loyalists were straight proxies, not rats or touts, they were servants of the crown, carrying out cabinet policy - which was to terrorize civilians who had no political connections whatsoever. Even though this is all documented fact, it's still not in the mainstream consciousness.

  • @johnhughes8016
    @johnhughes8016 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing, half the country wants nothing to do with the British, saying it loudly and often, but they are quick to claim they are ‘owed’ something...
    They seemed to be quite happy cheering when the Shankhill chip shop bomb went off, I know as I have the displeasure of being in the Ardoyne estate at the time it went off...
    Both sides were as bad as each other, and the majority of the population supported ‘their’ side...
    the whole place is a basket-case....
    As for the cover of ignoring of the deaths/ crimes till happening.... its politically expedient for them, both sides of the border to pretend everything is all good...

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who was cheering about the Shankill Bomb Sinn Féin wasn't it was a mess

  • @johnkennedy972
    @johnkennedy972 ปีที่แล้ว

    They talk about the border there’s 30 odd borders facts

  • @Johnnyfive55
    @Johnnyfive55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why 6 counties?

    • @padraigpearse1551
      @padraigpearse1551 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Province of Ulster is made of 9 counties in total: Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone, Cavan, Donegal Monaghan. Out of these counties the first 6 constitute Northern Ireland. In 1921 the first four of these were predominantly Protestant while the other 6 were Catholic. Northern Ireland was intended from the start to have a unionist majority for the foreseeale future. In order to achieve this majority the 4 protestant counties plus the 2 catholic counties of Fermanagh and Tyrone were seeceded from the rest of the island. If the other 3 counties of Ulster (Cavan, Donegal & Monaghan) were included in Northern Ireland then there would have been a Catholic majority from the start.

    • @mickmacgonigle5021
      @mickmacgonigle5021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To ensure a built in unionist majority. Nothing to do with democracy

    • @thejoin4687
      @thejoin4687 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a nice even number.

    • @Johnnyfive55
      @Johnnyfive55 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@padraigpearse1551 Why not 4 counties?

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@padraigpearse1551 great answer bro Erin go bragh 🇮🇪💯

  • @wolfiemum461
    @wolfiemum461 ปีที่แล้ว

    You skipped so much history

  • @linarez90
    @linarez90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was thinking of visiting from England for a holiday. I won't now. I thought things had moved on.

  • @krugerfuchs
    @krugerfuchs ปีที่แล้ว

    And why did you bomb dublin

  • @solodragoon
    @solodragoon ปีที่แล้ว

    so you showed one side, are you gunna show the other?

  • @charlietwotimes
    @charlietwotimes ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course the British want to draw a line under it. Their connivance + assistance with both Loyalist paramilitaries and the RUC, although widely known, would become something actionable. Things like "internment without trial" of both sides paramilitaries would be conveniently no longer a problem for Britain. That's what it's all about; not drawing a line, it's all about escaping legal consequences.

  • @johnathandaviddunster38
    @johnathandaviddunster38 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of good apples, a few nuts .........

  • @gazzy5303
    @gazzy5303 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine going on the tele in your pyjamas and little gay socks. Hippy bellends.

    • @j2msu341
      @j2msu341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly !

    • @tropicalpalmtree
      @tropicalpalmtree ปีที่แล้ว

      They're commies what do you expect lol. Pair of handout scroungers most likely.

  • @alancurran5643
    @alancurran5643 ปีที่แล้ว

    proddy side of the story

  • @mrwizard7369
    @mrwizard7369 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The British are responsible for all of it PERIOD!!!

    • @mcivor321
      @mcivor321 ปีที่แล้ว

      The English specifically, they used the Scots to colonised Ulster an unruly province. The Scots aka Ulster Scots were like in the south park movie, "blacks to the front, human shield". Like Ulster was colonised by Scots but it isn't a Scottish colony, it's an English colony, get what I'm saying, like it's ruled by London

  • @binflynn1
    @binflynn1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can never trust a troubled dog , same apply to some people in Northern Ireland

  • @JamesFaulds-g3g
    @JamesFaulds-g3g หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beruit Bosnia Belfast Best!

  • @warmasterhorus
    @warmasterhorus ปีที่แล้ว

    Weak, boring documentary. Waste of time.

  • @GSGTRFC
    @GSGTRFC ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d like to see a bridge built from Scotland to Northern Ireland in my lifetime, it’s the easiest solution to everything 🇬🇧

    • @poloflaith9993
      @poloflaith9993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😀

    • @noodlyappendage6729
      @noodlyappendage6729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love what a bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland would represent but it’s a no go at this stage. It would cost far to much money and it would serve enough people. What we need is better interconnectivity. I think Airlanders are the way forward. Once Northern Ireland and Scotlands population is higher then we could afford a bridge and there would be enough people for the bridge to serve. There are things that I would like to see like a UK wide rugby or football league. It’s the interconnectivity of our isles that will destroy Irish republicanism and separatism.

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd rather Ireland stay an island eirn go bargh 🇮🇪

    • @Bobby-xr4bo
      @Bobby-xr4bo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d love to see a bridge built between Scotland and Europe… but it’s just pie in the sky.. same as your bridge

    • @Bobby-xr4bo
      @Bobby-xr4bo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noodlyappendage6729 there is a very simple way to destroy Irish Republicanism… move the Ulster Scots back to the mainland and leave Ireland to get on with running their own country…

  • @mirola73
    @mirola73 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many parties in NI STILL practice sectarian politics (both sides) and whole tribes (both sides) still vote for them.................
    We ourselves ensure (in part) that this crap keeps going.

  • @patriciareilly8841
    @patriciareilly8841 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one talks about the sex crimes.

  • @pjg_77
    @pjg_77 ปีที่แล้ว

    UP.UP.UP.UP.UP THE UDF

    • @grahamr-oj3wf
      @grahamr-oj3wf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/AMxxhMY-XfE/w-d-xo.html dats wat u dogs did to my county but soon we be unified Erin go bragh🇮🇪

  • @defunctt
    @defunctt ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with that girl at the end is she doesn't seem to appreciate the concept of tit for tat. The whole point why most people forty years ago understood a general amnesty like the Good Friday was worth trying because everything up to that was tit for tat violence. She is now wanting to dredge up the mud but once you start the tit for tat violence again and new names start being added to the body count that side of things is obviously a damn sight worse then her sense of a lack of justice for things that happened 50/60 years ago, more than double her lifetime ago.

    • @kenhaz84
      @kenhaz84 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was all over the show in what she was saying on everything.

  • @inout3513
    @inout3513 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nationalists dont want anyone talking about it because they want to do it trough underhanded political means.....the unionists dont talk about it because they themselves have felt let down by the government who govern the united kingdom the people who they are fighting to stay apart of....