Check out the Grand Seiko Spring Drive Elegance Omiwatari SBGY007 at Lewis Jewelers here: bit.ly/43vMxFq Ask for D.K. and mention TheTopher, he'll take great care of you guys!
Maybe I'm cheap; but I cannot believe you have to buy an option for a 360 camera in a $60k+ vehicle. A Hyundai Elantra has one for god's sake. It feels less like an optional upgrade and more like nickel and diming
These points are valid...5 years ago. Sadly, times have changed. New vehicles are more expensive than ever, and when you consider the cost of living increase this is the new reality. The prices are reflected in the used car market too.
@@alexandercura1523Nuff said POS 4 cylinder = DEAL BREAKER. I wouldn’t buy that POS for half the price! 4 cylinder garbage should be BANNED in anything other than an econobox! And nuts without 2 brain cells to rub together, are going to say “oh it has tons of power blah blah blah….”. And for those nuts I say, it’s not all about the power. If you cannot understand the word REFINEMENT, then I have NOTHING to say to you! 🙄
@@akilghosh yeah but the LC and LX were nearly exactly the same including powertrain and interior comforts. The new GX is vastly more luxurious than the LC and has a twin-turbo V6.
My assessment is based on what I observed at the Auto Show in California. For comparing this SUV, I recommend examining others. To attend, both my wife and I had to pay a $30 fee, and I was particularly eager to personally see the Lexus GX due to the hype surrounding it as a large off-road SUV. Before I outline the positives and negatives, I want to express my anticipation spanning decades for the GX to unveil a new design. However, I am disappointed with what I encountered. Pros: * The shape is commendable, featuring a perfect boxy design akin to competitors such as the Defender, Jeep Cherokee, and GMC. * While the central infotainment system is not groundbreaking, it maintains consistency with other Lexus models, which is acceptable. * Cons: * There are numerous drawbacks. The model I viewed exceeded $77k and lacked the ML sound system. * The absence of a panoramic sunroof, now a standard feature in modern vehicles, detracts from the luxurious experience. * The panoramic sunroof in the Luxury+ model is underwhelming and seems to mimic the idea from the Venza, which has been on the market for over six years. * The quality of leather and interior falls short compared to other SUVs in the same price range. Even the Toyota Highlander boasts superior interior quality. * The exterior feels excessively plastic, particularly upon contact with the bumper, hood, and other body panels. * Leather quality across all trims is subpar. * Fuel economy poses a significant issue in 2024, averaging only 17 mpg. * Many materials exude a cheap feel, failing to deliver a luxurious experience. * If one opts for all available options on the Lexus GX 550, it may be preferable to choose the LX 600, which offers a higher level of luxury and power. * For a better depiction of luxury, consider examining the Infiniti QX80: th-cam.com/video/NMzD7nLQlDY/w-d-xo.html I've been a longtime enthusiast of this SUV, but now, even surpassing $80k plus tax, it's hardly worth the investment. In 2024, there's a myriad of alternative options I've contemplated, including the Ford F150 Electric, Rivian, Cybertruck, GMC Denali AT4, Sequoia, and the Volkswagen Atlas Off-Road version, among others, boasting advanced technology and commendable qualities. Toyota and Lexus seem to be marketing very basic vehicles under the guise of reliability. Many individuals I conversed with at the auto show shared my sentiment that the GX 550 pales in comparison to the 460 in terms of quality, feeling cheaply constructed. It appears that TH-cam influencers may be sponsored by Toyota and Lexus, with many Toyota dealers hyping these vehicles on social media to attract buyers. This SUV no longer epitomizes luxury, not by a long shot. If you disregard reliability and juxtapose it against brands like BMW, Audi, and Land Rover, it's disheartening to witness its decline. Purchasing this vehicle entails enduring it for another six years solely to mitigate depreciation, while numerous other automakers are already introducing superior and more advanced technology. At present, I must explore alternative options, as this SUV is not worth $85k out of the door, if you're fortunate enough. Best wishes with your new purchase. Just bear in mind, many individuals are compensated for endorsing Toyota and Lexus brands, and I've encountered numerous instances of Toyota dealers leveraging social media to generate interest in these vehicles. In conclusion, this is merely my perspective. Enjoy your new purchase
I saw the GX550 at the Chicago auto show and spent at least a solid 10 minutes checking out the interior and exterior. I own a 22 GX460. The interior felt like a massive downgrade. More like a Toyota interior. There was nothing Lexus about it. Hard pass for me!
@@Odat Same experiences they just did copy paste of Toyota interior. In fact some of the Toyota interior is much better than this. Imagine if you have to buy this and forcefully like it just for the sake of badge and price another 6 years to cope up with depreciation And other companies running around with high tech, luxurious for this price. Simple cheap tricks and low qualities they have delivered. I was shocked that for high trim you have to add another $1.5 for premium sound as well + heads up display $1000 and list goes on. Can’t imagine update after so many years and came up with this.
lexus really nailed this SUV. even this base model is pretty good. personally if you dont need the 3rd row the base Overtrail is the pick of the bunch at 69k. all the offroad goodies and chunky tires.
I like how the premium is even though it is the base model. It gives me everything I need with a new body style to show for and a v6 I can rely on as reliable and powerful to use for my daily usage. I understand there are things that people may not like how there is no wireless charging, no fog lights, no electronic 3rd row, and memory seats (Correct me if i'm wrong) but those hardly bother me since i don't even use those stuff but in a mass market perspective it could be a game changer. Thanks for the video.
The tucked under one might not work with the flip up glass. Also maybe just my pet peeve but the ones concealed just seem like it’s harder to change the blade and isn’t as helpful at getting a view out of the back window since the arc is upside down and asymmetric
Its for ease of changing, as this is a Prado in the rest of the world. They're not going to spend the money to just change the location of the wipers for the Lexus variant.
Beautiful GS brilliant movement GS is very underrated I believe you strap has to be flipped at 12 and 6 so the buckle can close and the extra strap is on the outer position of your wrist unless its purposely installed like this
Damn, that twin turbo V6 really moves, not bad for a big vehicle like the GX550 is. Can't imagine you guys got anything but BAD gas millage on your test drive, haha. I wonder what it really gets for MPG if you drove it like a normal person.
Surprised to see such highly rated tires on a non-off road Toyota product. 4.5 star rating on tirerack, very nice. Just wish this base trim had memory seats, that seems like a big miss on a $65k vehicle.
I hate the lack of color and all the grey plastic in the front . I also don’t like that you can’t get a digital rear view mirror on the overtriail plus model . Seems like a great exterior but a huge miss on the interior I’m sure the 2025 model will have new color options.
I want to be the off-road GX owner but for the other 360 days per year I’m the soup broth guy, so that works out. Probably going to be a little tight for the car seat clearance though it looks like
That's so strange my 2014 GX460 had cutouts for the tonneau cover in that tiny space with the third row seats up. You just folded it up and pushed in the end caps and it snapped right in. There was no space though for my all weather cargo tray, that had to be left at the side of the road, haha!
Interesting, this will take a K&N filter.... hmmm... That is another 12 - 15 horse power with very little downside(assuming you are aggressive with oil changes.) The only problem is the wheel + tire sizes are terrible(at least according to tirerack.)
@@xCaLLMeGHeTToType R wins against its peers. This is brand new ground up and lost against older designs already. I guarantee this won’t be in production for 13 years. Build quality ain’t the same pal.
Awesome review guys👍 Could you guys do a review comparing 2021 lexus lx570 to the 2023 GX460, I know you did a similar video with a 2012 Gx 460, but some of us are considering, at the current price levels of the 2023 GX 460, a slightly used LX 570 would be a better option. Thanks
For some reason, it just doesn't appeal to me very much. It looks like its supposed to compete with the G class from MB but in trying to do that it looks like Toyota has kind of lost the plot. I'm not exactly sure for what they were really going for as the vehicle is rather basic and I suppose its alright compared to the G class, but it doesn't have a V8 and it is kind of an eyesore. It reminds me of a Japanese import rather than a modern brand new vehicle. It looks like they took the Land Cruise and the LX460, combined them and added too many chromosomes, then mixed in the Land Rover Discovery, none of which is a complement in the slightest. It seems as if Toyota have decided against their own philosophy of car design.
Had an older GX460 back in 2012. It was reliable, horrible milage, 30 year old engine, the plastic was bad, the fridge door was awkward, the infotainment was outdated and laggy. It seems nothing has changed. Overpriced, ugly over designed Toyota, outdated interior design. Lexus still think they are reliable and have a right penny pick you for 360 camera etc. Since then I had range rover autobiography and supercharged, and well as GV80 prestige. And was looking at this with curiosity, but it's still a huge, inefficient, overpriced Toyota, that is not even Japan build anymore. And the infotainment and navigation is straight from 2016.
Hideous dashboard. Looks like they took one out of a 80’s car and jammed a bunch of screens in. Why can’t we get a car with European styling and Japanese reliability?
Because then all the whiners would say that Lexus was being a copycat of Mercedes or BMW I mean a lot of people will find a lot of things to complain about no matter what smh
..my X5 (not even $70k) has M adaptive sus...or air sus as an option even Grand Cherokee has air sus. now a day... but Lexus, u got to get the top trim to have the adaptive suspension....that's just sad... and basic sunroof for a car that's priced over $64k...for real??
Unless you live in the middle of trail, make over 150k with fewer than two dependents, no mortgage or debt, what is the point of buying such expensive car…. Other than feeding ego is the top priority in your life.
Life is short and everyone is going to die. Before that happens, enjoy life and if you can swing it~ go for it. You can’t take your money with you. 🤷🏽♂️
Again & Again Toyota making small little SUV's that are un comfortable..Old Landcruiser & now the new Lexus.. No back seat room. Disappointing for the outrageous costs..Also too narrow
Check out the Grand Seiko Spring Drive Elegance Omiwatari SBGY007 at Lewis Jewelers here: bit.ly/43vMxFq
Ask for D.K. and mention TheTopher, he'll take great care of you guys!
Was wondering of the day I'd see you wearing a Grand Seiko on your channel! Haha. Goes "hand in hand" with that GX 👍
Could you fold the back seats to see it’s real trunk capacity???
$8300 for a watch? Jeesh
@@storey13 still better price point than you would pay for many of the swiss watches. But the GS dials to me is what sets it apart from them.
Maybe I'm cheap; but I cannot believe you have to buy an option for a 360 camera in a $60k+ vehicle. A Hyundai Elantra has one for god's sake. It feels less like an optional upgrade and more like nickel and diming
Especially for how big it is, again
Agree and no memory seats for 65k
These points are valid...5 years ago. Sadly, times have changed. New vehicles are more expensive than ever, and when you consider the cost of living increase this is the new reality.
The prices are reflected in the used car market too.
Toyota moment
"bUT LeSs to BrEak" -Toyota fan bois
Honestly I’d rather have this over the new Land Cruiser as it’s similarly priced
This is what everyone said when they bought the lx over lc in 2000s and 2010s. Now the lc is much more preferred over the lx in second hand market
Agree and the LC has a 4 cylinder
@@alexandercura1523Nuff said POS 4 cylinder = DEAL BREAKER. I wouldn’t buy that POS for half the price! 4 cylinder garbage should be BANNED in anything other than an econobox!
And nuts without 2 brain cells to rub together, are going to say “oh it has tons of power blah blah blah….”. And for those nuts I say, it’s not all about the power. If you cannot understand the word REFINEMENT, then I have NOTHING to say to you! 🙄
I’d take this just for the V6
@@akilghosh yeah but the LC and LX were nearly exactly the same including powertrain and interior comforts. The new GX is vastly more luxurious than the LC and has a twin-turbo V6.
Thanks for all the coverage yall have been giving the entry level GX 550
Love the GS 007. I purchased my first GS way back in the 90's when I was stationed in Japan. Been a GS fan ever since.
I like the dash, how it's flat so that u can see out the windshield. That big a55 navigation screen is awesome also.
🤣🤣🤣
@@dagoodsoldier6715 Doodlely dooooo
My assessment is based on what I observed at the Auto Show in California. For comparing this SUV, I recommend examining others. To attend, both my wife and I had to pay a $30 fee, and I was particularly eager to personally see the Lexus GX due to the hype surrounding it as a large off-road SUV.
Before I outline the positives and negatives, I want to express my anticipation spanning decades for the GX to unveil a new design. However, I am disappointed with what I encountered.
Pros:
* The shape is commendable, featuring a perfect boxy design akin to competitors such as the Defender, Jeep Cherokee, and GMC.
* While the central infotainment system is not groundbreaking, it maintains consistency with other Lexus models, which is acceptable.
*
Cons:
* There are numerous drawbacks. The model I viewed exceeded $77k and lacked the ML sound system.
* The absence of a panoramic sunroof, now a standard feature in modern vehicles, detracts from the luxurious experience.
* The panoramic sunroof in the Luxury+ model is underwhelming and seems to mimic the idea from the Venza, which has been on the market for over six years.
* The quality of leather and interior falls short compared to other SUVs in the same price range. Even the Toyota Highlander boasts superior interior quality.
* The exterior feels excessively plastic, particularly upon contact with the bumper, hood, and other body panels.
* Leather quality across all trims is subpar.
* Fuel economy poses a significant issue in 2024, averaging only 17 mpg.
* Many materials exude a cheap feel, failing to deliver a luxurious experience.
* If one opts for all available options on the Lexus GX 550, it may be preferable to choose the LX 600, which offers a higher level of luxury and power.
* For a better depiction of luxury, consider examining the Infiniti QX80: th-cam.com/video/NMzD7nLQlDY/w-d-xo.html
I've been a longtime enthusiast of this SUV, but now, even surpassing $80k plus tax, it's hardly worth the investment. In 2024, there's a myriad of alternative options I've contemplated, including the Ford F150 Electric, Rivian, Cybertruck, GMC Denali AT4, Sequoia, and the Volkswagen Atlas Off-Road version, among others, boasting advanced technology and commendable qualities.
Toyota and Lexus seem to be marketing very basic vehicles under the guise of reliability. Many individuals I conversed with at the auto show shared my sentiment that the GX 550 pales in comparison to the 460 in terms of quality, feeling cheaply constructed.
It appears that TH-cam influencers may be sponsored by Toyota and Lexus, with many Toyota dealers hyping these vehicles on social media to attract buyers.
This SUV no longer epitomizes luxury, not by a long shot. If you disregard reliability and juxtapose it against brands like BMW, Audi, and Land Rover, it's disheartening to witness its decline.
Purchasing this vehicle entails enduring it for another six years solely to mitigate depreciation, while numerous other automakers are already introducing superior and more advanced technology.
At present, I must explore alternative options, as this SUV is not worth $85k out of the door, if you're fortunate enough.
Best wishes with your new purchase. Just bear in mind, many individuals are compensated for endorsing Toyota and Lexus brands, and I've encountered numerous instances of Toyota dealers leveraging social media to generate interest in these vehicles.
In conclusion, this is merely my perspective. Enjoy your new purchase
@@americandude3825 definitely a good choice I sat in that SUv felt bigger and more luxurious than this . 👍
When I squint I see a Honda Pilot. Hopefully it’s going to be tweaked overtime to live up to the hype.
I saw the GX550 at the Chicago auto show and spent at least a solid 10 minutes checking out the interior and exterior. I own a 22 GX460. The interior felt like a massive downgrade. More like a Toyota interior. There was nothing Lexus about it. Hard pass for me!
@@Odat Same experiences they just did copy paste of Toyota interior. In fact some of the Toyota interior is much better than this. Imagine if you have to buy this and forcefully like it just for the sake of badge and price another 6 years to cope up with depreciation And other companies running around with high tech, luxurious for this price. Simple cheap tricks and low qualities they have delivered. I was shocked that for high trim you have to add another $1.5 for premium sound as well + heads up display $1000 and list goes on. Can’t imagine update after so many years and came up with this.
If 360 camera was included I would get this over all the other trims
the body roll is noticeably worse without KDSS
lexus really nailed this SUV. even this base model is pretty good. personally if you dont need the 3rd row the base Overtrail is the pick of the bunch at 69k. all the offroad goodies and chunky tires.
I like how the premium is even though it is the base model. It gives me everything I need with a new body style to show for and a v6 I can rely on as reliable and powerful to use for my daily usage. I understand there are things that people may not like how there is no wireless charging, no fog lights, no electronic 3rd row, and memory seats (Correct me if i'm wrong) but those hardly bother me since i don't even use those stuff but in a mass market perspective it could be a game changer. Thanks for the video.
you guys do a great job. keep it up, and thanks!
25:00 😂😂😂
This happens to me frequently, stupid people on the left most lane veering into your lane, they are just clueless!
😬
Maybe the car chiming at them slightly earlier was a pre-warning for that?
@@bluethundar licence should be stripped if they drive clueless
Nice. I drive a GX460 (and a model 3) and wear a Grand Seiko SBGN003 and SBGP005 🫡 🇯🇵
I like the start up engine and chime is my type
I'd get it in a heartbeat if it still had a V8.
I think I spotted a Grand Seiko watch. Right?
Of course Lexus and Grand Seiko shares fan bases. Both elegant, in a subtle way.
The rx's have a tucked under rear windshield wiper, but this one is placed at the bottom un covered. They shuda did the same
The tucked under one might not work with the flip up glass. Also maybe just my pet peeve but the ones concealed just seem like it’s harder to change the blade and isn’t as helpful at getting a view out of the back window since the arc is upside down and asymmetric
Its for ease of changing, as this is a Prado in the rest of the world. They're not going to spend the money to just change the location of the wipers for the Lexus variant.
Beautiful GS brilliant movement
GS is very underrated
I believe you strap has to be flipped at 12 and 6 so the buckle can close and the extra strap is on the outer position of your wrist unless its purposely installed like this
Watching these reviews makes me happy I picked up a 2021 Land Cruiser and didn’t wait for one of these.
Please do a review or a comparison to the 2023 model too as the last v8 for the Gx
I love the gx! If i had one. I would get the too model with all the luxury feturs
11:48 That could have been a cheeky Topgear reference, you know
Damn, that twin turbo V6 really moves, not bad for a big vehicle like the GX550 is. Can't imagine you guys got anything but BAD gas millage on your test drive, haha. I wonder what it really gets for MPG if you drove it like a normal person.
Surprised to see such highly rated tires on a non-off road Toyota product. 4.5 star rating on tirerack, very nice. Just wish this base trim had memory seats, that seems like a big miss on a $65k vehicle.
How are they managing to get such poor MPG still? Thats 4.7L 2UZ MPG
Generally, Toyota trucks have conservative tunes for longevity and reliability.
They are horrible milage. 30 year old engines basically. Reliable, but old.
Quite attractive for an SUV. And you know it'll last too.
LOVE THAT GS ❤
I hate the lack of color and all the grey plastic in the front . I also don’t like that you can’t get a digital rear view mirror on the overtriail plus model . Seems like a great exterior but a huge miss on the interior I’m sure the 2025 model will have new color options.
I really do love the new style. Does this trim not have a center locking differential either?
Great video/ review
I want to be the off-road GX owner but for the other 360 days per year I’m the soup broth guy, so that works out. Probably going to be a little tight for the car seat clearance though it looks like
One of you guys should get one so you can make some comparison videos with Tedward!
Buckle up for an unforgettable ride
partially looks like a modern train driver's cabin:)
looks like a fun reliable suv
18:20 Nice balance
25:50 Boxy is back, with poor MPG
which do you think is better offroad? this or LX600?
$6500 watch, dang. I was looking at them and a Zenith.
But GX 470/460 has V8 engine....
It’s weird to think that the “premium” model for this Lexus is considered a “Base” model…🤔
That's so strange my 2014 GX460 had cutouts for the tonneau cover in that tiny space with the third row seats up. You just folded it up and pushed in the end caps and it snapped right in.
There was no space though for my all weather cargo tray, that had to be left at the side of the road, haha!
You guys can bring a water bottle with you to set on the engine bay to compare vibrations lol
Chris and Chris, This model of GX has too much rim and too little sidewall. 😁
Giving that Speedmaster a break from your wrist?
What’s mpg for this new GX. The old one is terrible. Don’t think it improves that much despite more HP and torque and over priced
Jeremy Clarkson V-8 'motur' reference. lol
Taking the V8 every day
The way they both say "a liiiittle" is so similar 😆
That thing rolls like a speedboat, haha. I still want it though. 😁
Does AVS (in the Luxury +) help tame the body roll?
Not really, body roll feels about the same tbh - just stiffer with less ride comfort.
The shape of the vehicle reminds me of the defender
Interesting, this will take a K&N filter.... hmmm... That is another 12 - 15 horse power with very little downside(assuming you are aggressive with oil changes.) The only problem is the wheel + tire sizes are terrible(at least according to tirerack.)
K&N are trash for keeping out finer dust. Do NOT use K&N if you do any moderate amount of offroading.
What is the current markup for the base model?
i want this car so bad
Having the 460, I cannot stand the sound of the v6 in this.
same
This or a 5th Gen 4Runner TRD Pro? 🤔
For some reason I thought this was the 2024 lexus tx premium
“They’re boxy… but they’re good…” 😅
you should change fps on camera for that screen flickering 📷
Does it have all speed cruise control?
lexus gx is good
22-23 GX 460 over this any day. Not even close
the market does not agree with you lol.
@@Veyronp87based on what data?
@@brucesuitt993 The markups you'll see. Also, didn't preorders for this thing sell out in like 30mins in Germany? This thing is the Type R of SUVs.
@@xCaLLMeGHeTToType R wins against its peers. This is brand new ground up and lost against older designs already. I guarantee this won’t be in production for 13 years. Build quality ain’t the same pal.
@@yaqalp "Lost against older designs" Huh? Source on this?
What does the ECT button under the drive mode selecter do?
do you know fitra eri?
Awesome review guys👍
Could you guys do a review comparing 2021 lexus lx570 to the 2023 GX460, I know you did a similar video with a 2012 Gx 460, but some of us are considering, at the current price levels of the 2023 GX 460, a slightly used LX 570 would be a better option.
Thanks
4Runner owners, please take notice. Do not try to race a GX550 if you see one at a stop light.
Why would you race a 4Runner?.. When people think of racing vehicles 4Runner’s are the last vehicle you would think of.
Nit picking aside, the GX 550 stomps a mud hole on the rest in class, and OBTW I forgot how gray and ugly Michigan, depressing 😞
For some reason, it just doesn't appeal to me very much. It looks like its supposed to compete with the G class from MB but in trying to do that it looks like Toyota has kind of lost the plot. I'm not exactly sure for what they were really going for as the vehicle is rather basic and I suppose its alright compared to the G class, but it doesn't have a V8 and it is kind of an eyesore. It reminds me of a Japanese import rather than a modern brand new vehicle. It looks like they took the Land Cruise and the LX460, combined them and added too many chromosomes, then mixed in the Land Rover Discovery, none of which is a complement in the slightest. It seems as if Toyota have decided against their own philosophy of car design.
Since when Premium means base?
Car companies should start to use their logic😅
Day 3 of asking to review a 2010 cmry😢
Besides the offroading capabilities
GX550 or CX70?
This is an upgrade to the 4runner and not to the GX460
this looks not as solid as gx460 in fact....lots of "plastic and cost reduction feel"
The hood is overly long
"lacking in tech and features"... thank you ill pay more just for that alone.. tired of all the "tech"
Omiwatari > Snowflake
Had an older GX460 back in 2012. It was reliable, horrible milage, 30 year old engine, the plastic was bad, the fridge door was awkward, the infotainment was outdated and laggy.
It seems nothing has changed. Overpriced, ugly over designed Toyota, outdated interior design. Lexus still think they are reliable and have a right penny pick you for 360 camera etc. Since then I had range rover autobiography and supercharged, and well as GV80 prestige. And was looking at this with curiosity, but it's still a huge, inefficient, overpriced Toyota, that is not even Japan build anymore. And the infotainment and navigation is straight from 2016.
Hideous dashboard. Looks like they took one out of a 80’s car and jammed a bunch of screens in. Why can’t we get a car with European styling and Japanese reliability?
Because then all the whiners would say that Lexus was being a copycat of Mercedes or BMW I mean a lot of people will find a lot of things to complain about no matter what smh
..my X5 (not even $70k) has M adaptive sus...or air sus as an option
even Grand Cherokee has air sus. now a day...
but Lexus, u got to get the top trim to have the adaptive suspension....that's just sad...
and basic sunroof for a car that's priced over $64k...for real??
Unless you live in the middle of trail, make over 150k with fewer than two dependents, no mortgage or debt, what is the point of buying such expensive car…. Other than feeding ego is the top priority in your life.
First owners will lease it, then buyers will take it on in 3 -4 years.
Life is short and everyone is going to die. Before that happens, enjoy life and if you can swing it~ go for it. You can’t take your money with you. 🤷🏽♂️
5:40 Know I'll get assholes replying, but just fyi that's a slur, derived from the one G word used against Romani peeps.
Was it edited out? I couldn’t catch what you meant.
@@anthonyp4385 Yeah he cut it out :)
Again & Again Toyota making small little SUV's that are un comfortable..Old Landcruiser & now the new Lexus.. No back seat room. Disappointing for the outrageous costs..Also too narrow
Love that GS!!!!