China vs. USA military strategy deep dive
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- Many in the defense industry are pointing out the fact that we are now in the foothills of a cold war with China.
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Just five months ago it looked like the two superpowers were going to be able to resolve their disputes, times have changed fast. Today’s episode will rundown the main points of how the top military analysts believe a fight between the US and China would play out. I also have some of my own opinions in here but this isn’t set in stone, after the video I want to know what important things you think I missed or got right so comment your thoughts below and I’ll answer.
Instead of just guessing at what will happen I based all of this on research of where each military is spending their defense budget. The 2020 defense budget for the US Forces were a total of $738 billion. You should note, whenever the RAND Corporation or Janes Defense Forecasts run the numbers they find something strange about how much China claims to spend on defense every year.
There is an unofficial estimate of China’s actual defense spending that their government puts out which is always way lower than private estimates. One estimate that puts their defense spending at around $500 billion.
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hear that boys? battlefield six is gonna be operation locker, on every map.
Hell yea
can i destroy the bathroom stall again? and i don’t mean with#2
My favorite. Sign me up.
so we should expect to see a bunch of aek's, acw-r's, and mtar's
As long as it's not metro. That shit turns into a slog.
7:27 " Both *the United States* AND *the U.S* are invested..."
😂😂🤣
We're all humans and make mistakes. It Just caught me off guard.
2 AMERICAS???
I had to double back for a sec
noticed this too lol. had to play it back
This war won't be cold. If they were going for cold war, they would say "look how big I am" not "don't worry, we aren't spending an insane amount"
or maybe they want you to think that
Most definitely not , the tunnels have been dug, the energy sources secure, the contingencies set
The USA has woken up to this, Russia and China have closed with it way too fast and they know it!
@@JB-pu8ik I mean, it's effective. Plus, that's what people do during war. Pocket some rocket/nuclear scientists and whatnot.
That is a stupid opinion, ultimately the Chinese will never fight a total war against the US. It would absolutely cripple both countries to the degree that both countries become unrecognisable and collapse as major powers.
It will be more like the cold war with proxy conflicts, and the Chinese using their massive military to do things like make shows of force and blockade Taiwan. A full on confrontation between both powers will never happen
This is the exact same thing the USSR did with stuff like its nuclear missiles, it’s gonna be cold
You've never heard of the Mekong river? The delta was an entire AO in the Vietnam War. It's critical to all of the nations you listed, naturally making it a prime target.
Americans don't know geography outside a 50-mile radius outside their homes, generally. Blame a terrible public education system.
apparently its not the Mekong.......its the MAHKahn......
when i thought of the Mekong river, i only think of how China would pressure the downstream countries by threating to dam up the river
i have no idea there would be battle on the river itself
@@tranquoccuong890-its-orge there were years of hard fighting in the river delta between the Viet Cong and US military, particularly the brown water navy and US Army units that constituted the Mobile Riverine Force.
The delta is a biological treasure trove. It is Vietnam’s most productive/critical agriculture and aquaculture region.
Chinese dams and pollution are wreaking havoc on the Mekong river and delta. In typical CCP fashion they’re raping the environment for their needs entirely, and it’s fuck everyone else.
Exactly. He does not known anything about the war in Vietnam.
As much as I prefer this type of "deep dive" analysis, it's so much better when you don't read the notes and just tell it like a story. It comes across as more natural and draws you in. I think you've improved in more recent videos. Thanks for bringing us interesting information and making us more aware of world-wide issues.
Your infantry tactics are significantly different when you don't mind losing 10M or 20M men.
China will have a major economic crisis on their hands in a few decades if they do not thin out their current adult population, due to the low relative number of children they have.
A large war would be very convenient for this.
When they start throwing 10 Million Chinese at you, you just have to pay 10 Million Indians to be thrown back in return
@@thorodinson5034 Especially since the Indians are probably better fighters + have actual body armor.
They applied human wave tactic in Korean war and failed
@@Kannot2023 they managed to push us south pretty far with their tactics. Even if it was unexpected.
Its interesting to note that with the Chinese one child thing, being a KIA could pretty much end your family bloodline.
Good
Lots of Chinese have more than one kid.
It also means the parents of every soldier who becomes a casualty would have nobody to take care of them in their old age. That combined with the end of a bloodline could really take a toll on support for any war they get into that drags on.
They are both Nuclear powers so it would pretty much be the end of everybody's bloodline.
@@MrTJPAS Right, if anything the Chinese will become war weary faster when so many of their only sons disappear on deployment. Short of a ground fight on the Mainland itself (which won't be happening), the CPC has no plans to reinforce home front morale after one or two years.
one thing about china is that they have civil defense tunnels under every city joining all the major buildings, so there is a purpose built fighting tunnel for them to tunnel fight in while drones stomp the surface flat
What about Tungsten rods.
Nuking the surface and flooding the tunnels might do it
@@charliehotelromeo284 there was a ww2 plan to “shake and bake” places during the strategic bombing campaign which used high explosives to rip off the roof and then incendiaries to go into the structure and flatten it - used on places like tokyo and dresden. as a result the tunnels are built like navy ships with damage control measures to seal off damaged sections so the deeper parts may survive.
Lol I know a q-tard who thought the troops were training for tunnel fighting in order to invade and destroy deep-underground military bases full of reptilians in the US.
Keeping a straight face was very hard during that conversation.
@@tackytrooper You call it a conversation, I call it entertainment. Was the dude a pog?
I like a military with patches that are actually attached to the uniform
Because that’s what matters
Okay boomer
For a self-proclaimed Visceral guy, that was a great Cerebral performance. Thank you for giving us such a great research and analysis, and the usual entertaining delivery.
10 points for pronouncing Laos correctly ลาว!!! Minus 10 points for an ARMY Vet not knowing about the Mekong River ;)
Love the content! Thank you for what you do :)
Someone never watched 80's Vietnam war movies...
You're not supposed to pronounce the s? I didn't know that.
@@ahandgrenade3640 Lao or Laos works, you just wouldn't say "Laos people" Lao more refers to the ancient ethnic group that makes up the country. Remember, the english spelling of asiatic words isn't neccesarily the correct spelling/pernounciation considering the difference in how certain letters or combinations of letters make different sounds in these languages than they do in english
@@ruy195 in the English language I’ve heard either Laos or Lao are correct. Just not Layos please. That’s like Eyeran and Eyerack.
Great whisky as well.
Funny enough the UK's Household cavalry which is an Armoured reconnaissance regiment has just undergone 'tunnel warfare' training which I thought was a little weird
Yeah instead of fighting there going in tunnels
Don't count uk into anything is just too weak 😒
That’s because in some of there cities they built a lot of tunnels for gorilla warfare and in Russia they have lot of tunnels big tunnels just for military right under there cities
@@felixhabarugira7680 Um UK has being fighting for a long time they contribute to WW1 and WW2 very much not because they army has been low doesn't mean they can't kick your ass.
You know the UK has troops in the middle east and there's plenty of tunnels there?
Words cannot describe how much I do not want to be stuck fighting in some underground tunnel network. That being said, I’m not sure what would suck more: fighting in some jungle in Southeast Asia (again), fighting in some mega city, or fighting in a godforsaken tunnel.
All in all another good video, but a few hiccups in the editing where it sounds like you cut your audio off by a few tenths of a second.
That’s what chemical warfare is for
@@austindecker7643 Oh great, so instead of the regular horrors of fighting underground now we get to fight inside gas-filled tunnels where any damage to your PPE means you get to drown while your gas mask fills up with your own blood. Nice.
This new focus on tunnel fighting might be a driving factor in the military's recent interest in wider deployment of suppressors for infantry. The noise and concussion of gunfire in concrete tunnels is debilitating.
I'd hate jungle warfare mosquitoes snakes etc throw me into a subway I'm sure there's less of those
@@mannythrash508 probably fewer snakes. But a lot more rats
Watching this makes me so depressed about our own corrupt government. We'll have to deal with the Chinese and our own overlords. It's like two bad guys fighting each other.
If we do nothing and continue to help it function, then we are the bad guys. Cope with it. We are what we are.
@@1mnot4rrogant90 You may be the bad guy, but I know who I am. There's no reason to cope with that. Ours will self destruction eventually anyway, corruption has that effect.
What evil oberlords in the US do you mean? Sorry, but it sounded pretty nonsencial to me.
@@abraham2172 You probably don't understand if you're not American. I never said anything about evil either, but a massive government that doesn't have to adhere to it's own rules and restricts freedom however it pleases is an overlord. There is a class of people the law applies to, and a class that does whatever it wants,. The latter is the overlords.
There's a very simple reason the Chinese army doesn't use body armor. It's expensive to equip an army larger than the entire population almost every country on the planet. Teamwork is also a big factor, though. That's an important cultural difference between us and them
Plus a Chinese life is worth 1/100th of an American life in terms of training, equipment, and life insurance to surviving family.
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The quality of the video definitely improved more than the last video
@@TaskPurpose1stSquad please keep uploading on stuff like this there's not many channels on these subjects that are trustworthy
I wouldn’t trust this guy cappy, sounds like he’d side up with his commie buddies...
@@minimurphy289 lok
@@minimurphy289 haha exactly, or maybe he’s just a intrigued by the Soviet Union. Let’s hope it’s the latter.
What are you doing here
I love this so much it’s like the forgotten weapons Channel but of military tactics
If you ever read one single book on Vietnam you'll hear about the Mekong Delta. I have no idea how you're unfamiliar with that
YUP AND JUST HOW SIGNIFICANT AND PRECIOUS A BIOLOGICAL TREASURE THAT WHOLE RIVER SYSTEM IS ITSELF TO THE EARTH!
Cappy, I don't know if you'll even see this since this video is so old, but I had to comment. I watch your videos almost every day. I stumbled across this one in my feed. I can't believe how much you've grown in your presentation skills. Don't get me wrong, this video was great and informative, but you have become truly polished compared to the person I saw here. To me, that says you put in a ton of work and learned to grow. Your presentation improvement is really impressive, and I thank you for all of the content you generate. I always learn something.
Mass respect! I'm a big fan of all your essays. Top shit. Keep doing it.
Yo man, Adam & Eve, I see your browsing history has caught up to you via cookies :3
3:00 "appear weak where you are strong" - sun tzu (probably paraphrasing)
Close enough.
Its appear strong when ur weak and weak when u are strong stuiped state ment because basically u can appear as u are it makes no difference
@@Kevin-id5hx You must suck at military strategy! XD
from stories I have heard from civil servants (firemen, police, ect.) who went abroad for international training. the Chinese have precision drill, and if faced with a singular problem they are drilled to perfection to resolve that problem asap, but as soon as you throw a dynamic problem at them they fall apart. they fall apart in glass houses, hostage situations, and other evolving training scenarios.
This was the case forty years ago. The Chinese have been a disciplined nation since ancient times, but the current society has given people more room for development, and the creativity and resilience of young people today is no worse than that of any country.
@@XX-wn8xv its very superficial, and its even more evident in the political outrage perpetuated by the CCP. its really funny but they will trash all of the products of a brand, even to their own detrament, when ever the CCP puts a "hit" out on a brand, person, or product. they don't think its just outrage. this kind of out rage system extends to their cost guard, maritime civil defense force, and fishing fleet. their fishing fleet will actively fish where they are not licensed and the maritime civil defense fleet will attack the coast guard of the nation that is defending its waters as well as local fishing boats acting in a defensive manner. once they have contol over a water space they will actively attack the fishing ships of the nation they demanded control from. there is a litiniy of hipocracy and were it the US we would have decleared open war gainst them long ago, but the local nations cannon stand up to china's navy so the US, Australia, and India having navies that can stand up and being local enough have offered support to these nations, but because the US is very stand offish with the CCP all we do is freedom of navigation, which is to chase their civil defense ships around the ocean so they can't hurass fishing ships or the nation of territory's fish rights.
the UN actually voiced its support for stopping china but because the CCP sits on the security counsel and its all bureaucratic bullshit.
so no they aren't, they just like to puff their chest and pretend they are better than everyone, which sitting back and saying "I told you so." is a good political strategy for the US right now, hence the Chinese cold war that could become very hot very soon.
@@fuge74 The United States, hehe, the world's largest shit-chucking stick. Wherever there is American power, there are wars and massacres, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. Originally, the South China Sea was only an internal issue in Asian countries. The United States must come in and disrupt the situation. As if the South China Sea is about to fight a world war, do you think the United States is the root of all evil?
@@XX-wn8xv no, and I would like for them to issue letters of marque for Chinese fishing vessels and the so called maritime self defense force for the harassment of allied and friendly nations.
@@fuge74 Originally, you and your neighbor were quarreling about a trivial matter. At this time, an outsider came and said that your neighbor was sharpening his knife and wanted to kill you, and advised you to act first.
This video had some insightful commentary that you don't typically get from a typical media outlet or just overview of forces, and I rather enjoyed the humor mixed in to keep it lively.
Hey man. I just stumbled onto this channel from your main one so of course I'm hitting the like and subscribe but I paused the presentation to take a second because i wanted to say thank you. I appreciate what you do so much. Knowledge is power and I really believe that you do your utmost to give unbiased and fact based information. More than once with the conflict in Ukraine you were able to help me take all the stuff I gather and see on my own and present it in a way I can actually understand and in a lighthearted sometimes comical tone. There's a fine line between lighthearted and disrespectful but you navigate it well which I also think is important with subjects as serious as what you cover. I'm far beyond the point of taking the news for face value. It feels farcical at best these days and completely dishonest at worst. That was a terrible realization but channels like yours make up for it and that's why it means so much to me. Sorry this was so long and not just a clever one liner but I just wanted to show you my gratitude for your time and effort in getting the truth out there. And thank you for your service, sincerely.
7:31 “So both the United States and the U.S.” hilarious
I am from Hong Kong. While I understand most of your observations, the only thing I want to comment is that you are relying on official Chiense media information, and they are notoriously faked.
So are we underestimating or ove-estimating
I agree, one is here claiming USA or Italy is the one who made and launched Covid. ;p
@@eee9034 mix of both, we cant fully encompass the might, but if anything that big ego of any nation is their might. 2.8million is plausible. Their naval force is arguably weaker depending on what they can do, if it is offense expect the sea to become a Chinese ship graveyard. Maybe because they can reach farther, means because they have reduced explosives in them missiles. Their base grouping is small, unfortunately that may mean we will include a lot of innocent lives due to the dense pop. Their weapons are iffy, rattle when they fire, but effective enough, the design is enough to make people wonder, quick training cycles lead to undisciplined and rowdy groups. The propaganda going through their head may lead to more direct and almost suicidal charges even. Their special forces lack strength and endurance, and their weapons are probably arent too different, selection may be chosen from die-hard athletes. Lack of body armor and mass leads to the equivalent of a COD mw2 lobby getting multi kills and the bullet passes through like a hot knife through butter, rations arent enough to get through the day when, stress, discomfort, fatigue stressed units come into play. There could be more but, their might of 2.8 can be 1.6 for volunteers gone, 1.45 due to desertion, 1.2 from lack of food and morale.
1.0 to die hard units
.7 to possible soldiers leaving due to the battle.
Edit: I am a fool so correct me on this subject for anyone new reading this.
Stay safe
@@michaelsilva4844 loool you really under estimate people, depending on where the war is fought there's going to be casualties hopefully it never happens but to say their sof teams are weak and lack endurance. Our country will probably fall internally before we even fight China.
Anti Chinese sentiment in Vietnam has always been very high, especially since the last Sino - Viet war in 79. The US should take advantage of that feeling and help build up Vietnam as a stronger ally. I also don't see a major ground war being a smart move, best strategy should definitely be to squeeze their supply lines to a point where their economy can't keep up. By that point internal strife might do what the US military can't. -- I'm just a hopeful American who doesn't want to be drafted in their 30s lol. I hope peace reigns and we china finds more in common with the rest of the world then we have different
you could always frag your CO
US be like: peace and development, just nobody get ahead of them. China: Rule Rule Rule
We actually have tried to get with Vietnam but they really just want nothing to do with it. They'll go against whoever shoots them first, so probably the Chinese.
@@user-gu1hl2kx2k What?
i think Chyna has tried to do that but with a different strategy
"Army marches on its stomach." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Infantry that is not fed well (pretty much all of the Chinese soldiers recorded here) will not work well.
Food supply chain for China is not secure. We know because we feed them.
Them boys who did the video shoot with tires probably had to recover for days. It just looks stupid.
They can eat anything, dogs, dirt, trees, metals.
china will win this war simply because one of the biggest things about war is "know your enemy" this is directly from the art of war.
statements like yours clearly shows the west knows nothing about china.
For food, china is literally 90%+ self sufficient in basic foodstuff. imports cover mostly luxury goods ie: wine, nuts, seafood etc, or they are used for animal feed, ie: corn and soy.
this self sufficiency is in addition to their massive stores of strategic food stuffs, including but not limited to, enough stored grains to feed everyone in china for literally an entire year. a couple months of pork reserves. and sugar for months.
starvation is not a major issue in china like it is in india, all the issues on food supply you hear about in china is due to the raising middle class looking to eat more than just basic grains and vegetables. but in an world war, basic grain will do just fine.
the videos on chinese army exercises and such are widely known to be and are all more or less just a pose or movement the camera team asked them to do because they think it looks "cool". it does not represent what their army is actually like. the PLA is actually very conservative with regards to letting info out( a legacy of having to face both the soviets and the americans from a position of weakness), many things you wouldn't think is a big deal is considered secret, as such tv and videos shows very little about what the PLA is like.
there are many things people knock the PLA down for (lack of real experience, too few NCOs etc). starving soldiers is not on that list. mostly because only idiots and people living in the 1960s would think its an issue.
@@mxn1948 I don't know man there's a channel that tests MREs throughout history and all over the world, by far the Chinese have the worst MREs in the entire globe.
Just put in this perspective not only he eats different MREs the guy eaten a British ration from 1875 and still survived and was okay with zero problems. Then he ate a Chinese MRE three separate occasions and had to be rushed in the hospital at least ones but felt very ill after the other two times.
So far Spain and Italy have the best MREs in the world, US is somewhere in between but still pretty good, they're German MRE pretty good probably better then the U.S. but China has the worst.
@@mxn1948 Not true actually. China imports over a third of its food. Most of its Soybeans are from the Us.
I don’t doubt much of the rest too much. Army exercises are nice but are all flash and no fury.
@@thomasalvarez6456 you literally didnt read my comment before replying to it.
i'll quote myself here
"imports cover mostly luxury goods ie: wine, nuts, seafood etc, or they are used for animal feed, ie: corn and soy."
It's interesting watching this in 2024, and comparing it the videos entailing China/Pacific interests have panned out so far. Good stuff cappy
I watched Soviet training videos from the 80's where they were throwing kettlebells around and leaping thru flaming hoops like tigers, but used folding napkins for socks!
That is not a folding napkin. It's a foot wrap. It's been commonly used for centuries and is still common in many countries.
@@ptonpc Thank you. Foot wraps are superior in some ways to socks and its only recently that Russia reduced using them and switched to wool socks.
those were films of athletes training for the 1968 Olympics fazole.
Do you realise it was never part of the military training?
"Comrade Soldier". I saw it in BCT in 1984.
I'm no geopolitical expert or analyst, but I think the US would win this hypothetical "war." That said, I think an x-factor is India. Just my personal opinion though.
Well you know that if it kicks off with China, North Korea will go in as well, Russia will pop off and maybe Iran too. The god news is NATO alliance will go in on Europe, pretty sure Japan will help out with the Koreas, and here is to hoping the Philippines will not be assholes and let us stage our navy to go into China along with India Australia, maybe the Philippines, and hope that Pakistan doest want to mess with India to side track them. Maybe Isreal, and the Saudi’s will deal with Iran? Turkey is a wild card and you know them and Greece will use it as an excuse to throw down
But what the fuck do I know, just a keyboard warrior
@Clayton Chapman I didn't mean to come across that way, my apologies. I was just prefacing my statement by saying that I'm no expert and could be wrong. The situation is very complex and I didn't want to come across like I know everything about it
@Clayton Chapman it's ok! I can see how that could come across that way especially over text and not being said
@@Reticulosis looks like you are doing your homework. Europe is lazy though, not sure they will be ready. Pakistan probably will side with China. They will be a battlefield and not want to be part of it, but China will only go to war if they have confidence they would win and have Pakistan with them.
You're really onto something with your format on this channel, Mr. Cappy. A very nice blend of published articles, personal anecdotes and levity, in a somewhat long-form fashion. All delivered in a way that doesn't suggest you're right or wrong, but rather, the viewer can come to their own conclusions. Definitely has me watching the entire video. Thanks!
Thanks for the informative and entertaining content. Appreciate your perspectives
You are super dialed in. This video was very informative, keep it up! 🇺🇸
Great channel and content idea! Just try and flow with your speech like you do in the OG T&P videos. Felt a little verbally stunted and like you were reading a script for the first time! I know it’s not a problem for you because you already know how to do it! Looking forward to the next video!
@@TaskPurpose1stSquad still a good job man, especially for someone trying a new format like this after only doing basically the same old one for so long
Man, that Chinese ammo sure is smokey... it wouldn't be hard to pick out enemy firing positions, and if we end up fighting in corridors underground, it'll look like a civil war battlefield lol
I noticed that tooo i also noticed the flash
Those are all blanks. If the muzzle device looks like one on the M14 but fatter and with a “collar” at the base, it’s a blank firing adaptor. The standard QBZ muzzle device (w/o the blank firing adaptor) looks similar to the bird cage flash hider on the M16.
@@cabbage6015 good to know. The idea that they may be blanks did cross my mind, but I didn't know what to look for. Thanks for the info!
Probably the ammo was made in the same place as all the cheap fire works
@@hobbyoftheday4017 qbz go boom
One minor thing is that China has actually started getting body armor for its troops, since February of last year
@joe ortega I’m not sure, I couldn’t find any information about that when I was reading
Did they buy it from the Wish catalog?
@joe ortega check the info on the chinese peacekeepers deployment in South Sudan they were wearing heavy armor similar to those used by US and Russian. Now how wide spread this is remains to be seen
@@Corvus_Blackwood There is indeed Chinese news report mentioning that and the UN peace force has equiped such stuff.
Made in chy-nah .... 🙄
Looking pretty lit up there mate. :)
Cappy - you and your type of soldier are the reason I have hope that we will survive. This type of analysis by a grunt is outstanding. I salute you!
Do a video about the situation in Ukraine and the recent troop build-up by Russia.
I think he made one just a bit ago
Yeah how did that pan out? More fake news. The drills are over and they all went back to their bases....
@@cs-rj8ru *ahem*
Oh yes,this is going to be good.
“I like a military that shows a little ankle.” 😂
Scandalous!🥵
Wait tell the Beijing Bikini appears!
You need to remember how China values their conscripts. I talked with some Korean War veterans at a Marine Corps ball. They described being absolutely overwhelmed by the amount of man power. They had about 1 rife for for 4-5 troops. They have a rifleman and ammunition to spread out with their “team”. Russias spec ops has not done well at all with Ukraines military and volunteer civilians. Their vehicles haven’t preformed we’ll much like their conscripts. If owning land of another country wins wars China already own some of our land. America hasn’t fought a war to win, every war we’ve had since 1945 we have lost in Washington D.C. Let our troops do what they’re trained to do.
No one's talking about the Adam and Eve ad targeting Cappy at 13:15 ? 😂
I’m loving the genuine commentary that seems minor but is EXACTLY what everyone is thinking like DAYUM this ANKLES
HUGE improvements! Only thing, try and find a 4k background. Maybe another graphic design or something with abstracts. Current one is a little low res. Would make a big difference i think!
Nice video. Non biased, no underestimating the “enemy”. Very detailed and I’m very impressed with the comments too, very civilised.
Good job everyone
When you brought up underground warfare I thought about Metro.
Nobody should overestimate the quality of Chinese-made military gear.
overestimates can lead to defeat. Germany thought they were the best, you know the rest
Hopefully the Chinese do.
@@helmsscotta Of course they do, their leadership are raging narcissistic com_ies who, much like the leadership of the USSR, cannot admit to mistakes or flaws.
I really like this video. Its a very realistic analysis of the relationship between China and the US. Good Job cappy
@@TaskPurpose1stSquad Would you consider a video on cyber-warfare aspect on infrastructure. Like how all business shuts down each Black Friday, but done on everyday? Or how they could access unprotected systems like street lights to cause delays and destroy morale at home. It seems to me that either side could prevent mainland invasions by sueing for a preferable deal this way. I’m curious of your opinion on this.
I honestly feel like China isn’t as good tactically as we think they are and it’s just propaganda. They seem to be all show and pick what paints the best picture for them, but we do that too, just more honestly
It is. China legit doesn’t have running water In half of there country and we as Americans are scared of that ? Wtf even if ur a lowlife and a bum here there’s still running water everywhere
yeah i mean this country was literally built on war and has never known defeat apart from the inside, id like to think that as long as we have similar military power that we’d win just off of little things like better training, weapons, troops actually wearing armor, and most importantly troop morale of fighting for their country
Probably, but one big lesson one would learn from fighting any war is: Never underestimate your enemy.
TBF war has always been about influence. It is very influential to say "Either you let me do this, or I shove this sword through you" to someone who doesn't even have a spear
Spear beats swords, but I see your point.
I like this video bro. Subscribed
The US really isn't ready to jump back into the Mekong.
Glad to have longer videos
The improvement in quality is faster than my demotion from Company grade art15
The quality is getting better
Scary stuff Cappy. Underground and away from drones.
Haven't you watched Vietnam War movies Mee Kong River
Something to factor into the war games. The US won't get much help from NATO, they've got their hands full with Russia. The USA is already conducting a proxy war with China and also with Russia in their vain attempt to maintain global dominance. China's military build-up is in response to that proxy war and, as you pointed out, is largely designed for defence and not for projecting military might as is the case with the US military.
The US track record is significant. In their almost constant state of war since WWII the USA hasn't faced anything remotely resembling a peer military and has always had complete air dominance. Even then the largest and most expensive military the world has ever seen hasn't always won and the US and NATO trained and equipped Ukraine military, the 2nd largest in Europe, are not doing well against a peer military. But then, they were always a disposable pawn of US hegemony as is Taiwan. Maybe having a military/industrial complex in private hands with a primary interest in maximising shareholder profits rather than a primary interest in maximising military effectiveness has something to do with that.
The US has massive, but limited, combat experience whereas China has next to zero combat experience, but they have a M/IC in state hands with a primary interest in providing an effective military for the state. They also have military tech the US doesn't possess, EG hypersonic missiles. (Goodbye US Pacific fleet in the first few hours of the US emerging from behind their disposable pawns.) What's more they would be defending their homeland and the USA hasn't done well with that in the past.
I'm not surprised you haven't heard about the Mekong river. One thing I discovered as an Australian Vietnam vet is the US inability to learn. We brought world's best practice jungle warfare to Vietnam and your mob didn't want to know. It was no surprise to hear the commander of the (illegal) invasion of Iraq saying as they started to encounter insurgency action that they had no experience of this. They had 10 years experience of it in Vietnam and learned nothing.
With much higher casualty rates than any of their allies your M/IC is obviously far less interested in training and leadership than they are in selling weapons, 46% of the world's weapons and lots of warm meat for cannon fodder and, as a vet, that really gets up my nose.
You have unscrupulous pirates running your foreign and domestic policy who don't give toss whether you win or lose, either way they make a ton of money.
BTW Chinese debt traps are an invention of the USA with no examples of it evident anywhere. For example in bankrupt Sri Lanka around 10% of their debt is to China, mostly for infrastructure which retains value. Nearly 50% of their debt is to Wall St; Blackrock, JPMorgan, HSBC etc, the usual suspects who also sell on debt. It's a Wall St debt trap but the US is marvellously adept at blaming their crimes on others along with the finest mainstream media money can buy to peddle their BS.
Don't forget what happened
In Korean war ,
They are not afraid to waste their troops on assaults.
But china's one child policy makes it harder for china to waste millions of troops that were the only sons in the family. Also families of those who died will be left with nothing to take care of them. China already stop the one child policy but the damage was already done. High cost of living and high unemployment rate resulted to low birth rates. The new generation is more focus in career and earning money that making babies. China is now facing the same issues as japan. By 2040 there will have hundreds of millions of retirees that is not productive and will be spending more money. China can waste more troops but can it take the consequences after that internally? Nevermind political and economic sanctions that will shake china after the war. They are the biggest exporter but they are also the biggest importer. Weeks of naval blockade from choke points in SCS and indian ocean crash china's economy first and deplete its supplies. They consume 12 million barrels of oil but only produce 4 million a year.
One thing to remember about Chinese Defense Spending is that their "dollar" has a lot more purchasing power as their manufacturing costs are a fraction of those in the US. Of course, they have major issues with QC, and their corruption is much worse than even that here in the US (trust me; I have seen Congress in action and it's far from remotely honest).
Their Yuan is artificial.
I like the feel of this video, just feels like a live podcast, I already like the video and they should only get better with more polish
You my good Sire, is a very humble being...
I LOVE your channel! You tell it straight but with humor but (and this is purely constructive) a little hard to follow because you speak quickly and your enunciation is sometimes indistinct. I know. I'm from Brooklyn.
It kind of makes sense for the US to lose to China in a war game around Taiwan due to speed and logistics. Imagine how the Chinese will do in a war game around Puerto Rico. Logistics rules warfare. Great vid.
Well the US has bases in Okinawa and Japan, coupled with the alliances in Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, and Singapore will all be open to help the US. So theoretically a war would only last 3 to 4 weeks long
@@zenmastergaming6424 You're joking me right? Those countries will not be helping the U.S. They know that if China falls, the U.S will turn its attention towards the Asian countries/allies.
America would NEVER allow a Asian country surpass her.
The war won't last 3-4 weeks long....against a superpower like China? Take a look at the Korean war to educate yourself.
@@zenmastergaming6424 Americans always underestimate and ignore those countries, you talk as if they're pawn pieces that belong to the US and will do what they want for you at their expense. They won't. Number 1 they don't want war in their backyard, neither does China, US doesn't mind because its not their backyard but someone else's. Also a lot of these countries have a lot more trade, investment and cultural ties to China than US. They would never back a US war, period. You're projecting what you want rather than seeing what is there
It wont be just china it will be china russia North Korea vietnam cuba and Afghanistan
@@funbarsolaris2822 What an ignorant comment. Japan pretty much is one, by virtue of the JSDF being severely limited and the US military basically acting as their military. South Korea is close to one, with a MASSIVE US troop presence. And Philippines, while not a pawn piece, does have a _very_ close relationship with the US.
Anyways, it wouldn't be asking those countries to go to war. The US can just deploy from the large amount of bases they already have there. They wouldn't expel the US presence because, aside from not wanting an expansionist China to grow, they would be severely under-defended and likely be targeted anyways. The CCP and DPRK hates both. Even with the SK military draft, it wouldn't be enough to hold back the tide of CCP and DPRK troops at their door. No disrespect to SK soldiers intended, because they're badasses.
Whether they could actually stop an invasion of the ROC though, I wouldn't know.
The subterranean stuff is scary, reminds me of the war against skynet in the terminator movies
Id be thinking starship troopers
You should look up combat in Warhammer 40K
It becomes less scary when you have thermal and night vision. Also guns that peek around corners and through holes. They can be as simple as an endoscope like thing or a mirror.
@@markvincentcocjin underround combat is bullshit, it favors the defender 80/20 or more...you could put mines down literally everywhere and blow up tunnels on command at any time...
There is a old saying ( Never get involved in an underground war in Asia).
Unless you're the Mongols right?
Yeah right, tell the tunnel rats that, oops too late!
I have a question: Who needs to flip tires in a nuke fight anyway? All you gotta do is push a button.
Looks like the US army is expecting Metro 2033 to be what the future battlefield looks like.
China stops making toys and we literally cancel Christmas.
Idk a lot of kids that look for toys tbh. Unless you're talking about "those" toys...
@@jjverona8249 Either way China won't attack it's best customer.
@@tonymirarchi if not with bullet then it will be propaganda, if not propaganda then it will be money
If not money then will be virus,
, the country we are talking about is most inhumane nation , it always attack
@@eee9034 I'd have to say the most inhumane nation is North Korea
Oh the Mekong, the river that was traveled by an orangatang, a hamster, and an old lady in three vastly different boats.
First thing I thought of too
That took me a minute.
Man, I love that PBR.
The Meekong river delta was a pretty big hotspot during the Vietnam war. Lots of swift boats were deployed there.
Chinese soldier:Combat roll!!!
Ac130 crew loading the 25mm:”that’s cute”
Me: sliding into a fire position on both knees, as indicated in TTP/SOP
DVA: "Sorry, the injuries to your knees are not service related"
Sooo WW3 is basically gonna be Metro? Well, that's gonna suck...
Great video Cappy!
Well, US isn’t alone in this fight. You could make a rundown on US allies on your future videos as well. Would be dope
Not if we talking about trade wars. Economical interests are way more separated than the military alliance.
Yeah, after the disaster that came of the botched withdrawal/surrender in Afghanistan, and the French submarine debacle, we’ve pissed off many of our most staunch allies and shown out weak underbelly to the rest of the world.
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9:14 is cut off. Amazing video though man!
The Chinese military does use "body armour" and always has. Your armour is the bodies in front of you!
They have more troops, but less capable equipment, no logistics, no support. They are literally men with guns.
They have more ships, but 80% of their ships small Coastline vessels. The total tonnage of USA ships is 5 million tonnes. While China is 2.7 million.
Chinese not wearing body armour is a huge mistake. Britain and the USA have fought 1000s of battles and are the most experienced militaries in the world.
China has not fought a battle in 60 years.
It like a first-timer going rock climbing with a pro. The pros wearing boots, the first-timer says he don't need it, he knows best and sticks with heels
Great video, especially considering the rate of which China is expanding as the global superpower if it isn’t the top already. As you say influence is more important than shooting, it makes us wonder what trade sanctions would look like if China ever goes to war.
Definitely isn’t the top yet. I don’t even know how people get that idea in their head. Chinese infuance is minuscule compared to the US. And when you consider they’re going up against the “west”, they have nothing.
With america being so politically divided, i think china has a big advantage
yep, china is actively working to influence politicians and media here in the US, to fuel that division.
Agreed; however, gentlemen, they’re gambling. I don’t care if you voted for Trump or for Biden- we’re a sleeping giant, and although we may quarrel internally I don’t think we’d stand for an outside invasion force encroaching on our land.
@@SalvationIsInChristAlone not sure I agree. I would hope that some external, existential threat would unite us, but the thing is that a huge faction on the left HATE us, and want to destroy this country. they dont like anything about it, and they are ready to murder those that are opposed to them.
America should become a one party state
@@tjti2631we were meant to beat the chinese not join them
7:29
"Both the United States and the US."
The ghillie suit they used in the video is the exact same one I bought off amazon 💀💀💀
A hypothetical war between superpowers that only involve conventional weapons will never happen. And remember that the Chinese effectively kicked U.S fat butt during the Korean war even when they are not industrialized. Btw, the U.S was the only nuclear power during that time. It only ended in three years of stalemate. Chinese military strategy is also rapidly evolving and they only let you see what they want you to see. So probably all the discussion here is far apart from reality.
Wrong US kicked the shit out of China during the Korean War! China briefly drove outnumbered Americans back only because the US forces ran out of ammunition and when the US regouped they kicked China's ass with a much smaller force! If you want to bring up China's military history they have already gotten there asses kicked Mongolia England kicked there ass twice Japan even Vietnam kicked there ass! China couldn't even fight the Japanese without the US saving there ass! China also copies almost all there military tech from US Russia or other European countries! China is way overrated!
China didn't kick anything. McArthur's piss poor tactical decisions and lack of having the proper forces and equipment for the type of campaign he was trying to run hurt America. The kill rations for American to Chinese troops is hilarious even though the Chinese far outweighed the US is man power.
the chinese called a mortar “futuristic technology” while laser-guided munitions, stealth technology, and sonar jammers are all just a regular occurrence for the us military lmao
when?
@@chengda85
i saw a short from a chinese news channel with the title stating “futuristic technology to fight our adversaries” or something along those lines, and the entire video just showcased a 60mm mortar and a few banzai-looking infantry charges lmao
@@young.angry.devildawg Interesting, got source link?
South china sea. Is not near the mekong river.
Its near the west philippine sea
I think an interesting player is japan. They’re the third largest economy, and China is still VERY adamant that ww2 actions haven’t been forgiven. They rely on America and have a peaceful constitution, but they seem to be realizing it’s gonna be hard to stay that way with China for a neighbor. Look at their two “totally not aircraft carriers” they were able build recently.
The government is pro military while the population is extremely anti war.
The laws are slowly being changed to allow more military interactions.
In my opinion China is undergoing a laying down movement meaning laziness is at a all time high and most of China's economic growth comes from giving other countries goods.
Surprises me to learn you had never heard of the Mekong River. This river system was a primary route of the NVA/VC to move arms and supplies during the Vietnam War, and was patrolled quite heavily by USN patrol craft. China is going down to the same path the old Soviet Union did, and that is quantity over quality, stealing technology where they can be never being able to develop it adequately to meet its needs. China is barely able to feed its own people, let alone keep its military supplied. If there is going to be a confrontation between the US and China, the South China Sea seems a likely area, especially when you consider how important Taiwan is to both sides. But I really laughed when you compared the lack of discipline your squad would have in carrying out an order, to that believed to be possessed by the Chinese military. Maybe that's the problem with the US Army. Give the same directive to a squad of Marines and it would be carried out without hesitation.
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Just one B2 taking out the Three Gorges dam...
Let's kill thousands of civilians great idea
@@Gongolongo total war go: BRRRRRR
@@Gongolongo Let's face it, if China starts the war, it will most likely be because they attacked a civilian population. At that point, all bets are off.
Let me state unequivocally, that the stronger the Chinese military gets the more certain it becomes that any conventional conflict between China and the US (and by default it’s East-Asian allies) would end it China’s total defeat.
The certainty of America’s victory is only questionable if the following are either assumed or ignored, which ever is appropriate.
1. Victory is defined at the physical occupation of mainland China.
2. The United States would put its industrial base into overdrive a la 1941-1945.
3. All internal Chinese problems are ignored.
4. China was not critically in need of maritime trade routes for its daily energy needs. [and everything else].
* [bonus fact] China is a one coast nation surrounded by significant, wealthy, industrialized American Allies who have great defensive capabilities in their own right.
"2. The United States would put its industrial base into overdrive a la 1941-1945." this is rich :)))) what will they produce? Netflix and Harley Davidsons? :))))))))) isn't Taiwan like the one holding 80% of the advanced cpu chips production in the world? You'll go 1941 all right, producing Shermans if Taiwan is attacked :))) meanwhile the Chinese are looking to start to produce those kind of chips themselves.
Flipping and spinning capabilities are irrelevent when your 5' 3 and 130 lbs and engaged in hand to hand with a enemy that is 5' 10" and 175 lbs and often much larger
How often are modern Wars fought Hand to Hand though? It doesn't matter how big you are if that Smaller Guy is filling you full of 7.65 ammo. Also the average Chinese are just as tall as Average Americans its the Japanese that are shorter.
Look at the Vietnam war I dont think height really matters if we have ww3 millions will die if it goes nuclear its game over
I used to play in the storm drains in my neighborhood. There was an access point in the ditch out front of my dad's house. There were huge underground concrete "boxes" for lack of the correct term, connected to concrete tubes that stretched out in all directions, that lead either to more huge "boxes" or opened up into the creek.
Guy never heard about the "Mee-Kong" river. Says US investing heavily there. Wow. Is this dejavu all over again?
Anyone else notice that Chris said the United States and the US around 7:30 instead of China and the US 😅😅
Americans can't even find Canada on the map lol. It's not just them being threatened by these commie pricks. China's desperately trying to look tough and the sepos are too busy being scared
It's really this simple; US military: actual (almost unending) war experience for the last 60 years. Chinese actual war experience: not since the Korean War. Team a has played football for years. Team B has talked about playing football for 60 years. The last Chinese military engagement I am aware of (several months back) involved them and Indians getting into a literal stick fight at the ZAC with the Chinese "little emperors" getting their asses handed to them...in...a...stick....fight...
They actually had war experience after the the Korean War, they fought a short war with Vietnam after the Fall of south Vietnam.
@@taeheethomas I understand the points you are trying to make but they're false equivalencies. Training is the necessary precursor to experience but it is not the thing itself. Their weapons and systems are not more advanced than ours to give them a technological edge. China's command structure is highly centralized, i.e. just like Iraq's during Desert storm and look what we did to them. China would stand alone against a coalition of nations who have our weapons, systems and have trained with us while standing alone (also like Iraq). In multiple (little reported) engagements with India recently they have shown a lack of fighting spirit. Its also important to understand that the PLA is the army of the Communist party which is very unpopular in China among its citizens. i.e. low moral. China's military is conscripted. All their enemies forces are volunteer- very different g mentality. The list of reason China would fair poorly in any real armed conflict is far longer than this and not at all hypothetical. why do you think it was so important for them that Biden replace Trump? Their own analysts are terrified of going to war with pretty much any of our allies.
7:29 "Both the United States and the US..." cappy is off his meds again
"I like to keep this handy"
*click clack*
"For close encounters"