ABSOLUTELY DO A FOLLOW UP. If they claim it's fixed... Then let's see it. And I'd recommend the same exact car, but with their patch installed. Not some handpicked model VinFast wants you to try.
on the other hand, imagine turning on lane holding and then complaining because it holds the lane. maybe they could compromise and let heavy braking cancel the lane holding feature.
I remember an Audi hire car with the lane assist would shake like mad if I changed lanes without using the indicators it was at midnight and I was the only one on that particular road 😂
Many cars do it, but it might give some insurance benefits to have. Might. The annoying part is that the vehicle will likely keep a warning light on if you turn off 'safety' features. If anyone wonders what a better implementation is, my nissan's wheel vibrates when i go over a line without blinkers. You know you're wrong, and you're still in control without needing to be yelled at either. That's it
The fact that it blocks you from changing lanes without the blinker is so dangerous. I've had plenty of situations where I needed to avoid some obstacle on very short notice (pot holes, animals, debris, even other cars etc.) the car might not see, and had to go over the line slightly. This car would just push me back into them
I was thinking this EXACT thing. Sometimes you NEED to be able to suddenly jerk the car away from an obstacle and ffs you can't wait for your blinker to turn on first.
It's cheaper to send off something and deal with the problems that are brought forward than to spend millions testing before delivering a product! That's the world we live in now... Sadly.
You know what is the worst part? Wanting to avoid an accident and LAS taking control of the steering wheel because you didn't use the turn signal... That's a nightmare...
@@BeardedBear69 but that's not how I avoid an accident. sometimes you need to gently steer away, not jerk the car into another lane, and possibly a worse accident. Shit's retarded yo.
My hyundai has lane assist/lane keeping. With it turned on, if I don't signal, it gives a nudge/resistance, but it isn't something that'll stop me at all if i have to make an emergency lane change. That's just how lane assist works. It's meant to nudge people back into the lane if they weren't paying attention to the road. But it's useful if, say, i want to take a sip of water and the highway isn't perfectly straight.
@@willyolio9590 My Lexus has the same feature and it is one of the best on the market... and i still hate it. But this car whatever the name is, it is the worst i have seen...
@@tardigrade0708 grade it by the type of getaway. Kindergarten drop-off vs. zombie apocalypse vs. slasher film. This video: Kindergarten drop-off Karen with a walker ✅ with caveats that you can't rely on the blindspot detection and may get continuously triggered by the chimes thinking it's the bell from Karen's walker.
Maybe some of the software bugs. But you can't OTA you way out of that poorly tuned suspension, and that would be a deal breaker for me. Crazy part is Vinfast got their start building rebodied BMW SUVs. Some of the parts on the VF8 look to be last gen BMW parts bin stuff. They've apparently learned nothing from BMW despite being able to build BMWs on their production lines for several years.
@@andrewthacker1389 and at least the yugo sold at a super low price (msrp 3999) which means at today's dollars you could drive out between 7-8k. Granted it was a slow slush bucket but it was the 80's (most cars sucked during that time anyway).
I would like to note something about the startup sequence: it's dangerous. One of the things I like about a traditional turn-key-to-start is that if it's late at night or I'm actually in a dangerous situation, turning on the car and flooring it only take a couple seconds. Idgaf about a seatbelt if I've got some person with a knife after me.
Truth be told the start up takes long, but in all reality you can step in disengage the ebrake and put it into gear before the system loads. If you're waiting to check your back up camera then you're toast lol
@@gdm2200 I believe that for your average push-to-start, but is that true for this car? I'm assuming you've driven one/looked it up/know someone who has.
I don't know if buckling the seatbelts is actually required for the car to move. But Tesla also has a "no ignition" start sequence. You get in and just put it in gear and drive. There is a brief "power on" delay but that isn't any longer than starting a regular gasoline engine car and driving away. Chevy now has a feature you can enable; "buckle seat belt to drive", which I find incredibly irritating (I work in car rental) so I typically turn it off.
Quite the opposite imo. Starting with a key requires a couple of steps (turning the key, waiting for ignition, pushing the brake, shifting into drive) and critical seconds. The startup sequence in the VF8 is simply seatbelt on, push the brake, and drive. Much quicker and much safer.
@@GarrettBroadnax It does look like it has a regular shifter which is nice. It has parking assist which I think is a bit weird but at least I can choose not to use it. The deal breaker for me (and to be fair you see this on a lot of gas cars now too) is the massive touch screen controls for everything. Touch screens have no place in driver controls in a car.
@@van3158 yeah because they keep trying to appeal to i toddlers and not car people. It's like video games, they're not made for gamers, they're made for cynical content creators and critics. It sucks
Unfortunately, with increasing amount of soft features and computer usage in cars, this is the future of all cars. Oh and bsod too. Can't have a real computerized car without an occasional bsod
Yeah! I mean, it's much better and makes a lot more sense to buy a whole new car right?! Or having to send it back to factory or exchanging expensive parts... and update right?! Wth were they thinking about?
Is this an example of a new "let the customers beta test it" attitude in a lot of manufacturing now? Not all manufacturer's do this but some doo, and it is rampant in the software world for sure. I think you did a fair take on this car. I am also glad that most auto manufacturer's do not put cars this far from satisfactory on the market.
I think letting the customers beta test is a good strategy to see what you need to get right. Let them complain and you fix it. However sometimes you may have to take it to a shop to fix it
@@ummmbye1228 But beta testers usually get some kind of compinsation for their time, they don't here. To me, that's just wrong. But then again cell phone makers have been doing this for years now when they release a new phone or update the OS. They save money and we get to complain about them till it's fixed.
I don't really play video games anymore, but I'm still immersed in the industry's news. Their analogy is scary to think about with No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk. The "release product now and fix later" mindset is one thing when it's about a harmless video game. It's another when you are talking about a very expensive purchase that can risk your life. It's a mindset I can easily see Germany and America's top companies doing. They know they have a sizeable demographic who will buy their products regardless of their safety. Let's just hope that regulations are set in place so we don't have everyone driving down the road, not being able to change lanes without blinkers, and stalling in the middle of the highway.
@pappi8338 The funny part about the video game analogy is that car manufacturers are now dabbling in Microtransactions and monthly subscriptions for features already installed on the vehicle. We're in the Era of on-disk dlc except in car version.
If this was a budget offering, it would have some intrigue to it. Being more expensive than the Ioniq 5 (that is a genuinely awesome car) is egregious.
There's a reason why when companies like Honda, Toyota, Datsun/Nissan, Hyundai, and Kia (back when the last two were not the same company) started here, they started with budget-minded vehicles. People will complain about budget-minded vehicles, but if they're of limited means, they'll probably still buy them as that's potentially all that they can afford. When entry-level luxury automakers come in to a new market, they're relying on the reputation of the brand in their other markets to offer a reason for entry-level luxury car buyers to consider them. That sort of reputation can take many, many years to build, and if the luxury car market is already reasonably crowded, can be a challenge even for a proven brand. Tesla, for all their faults, realized that it was going to be tough and chose to use another manufacturer's car body for their first product, focusing on the powerplant and energy source. The car they used as a base was already decent enough as a rolling chassis goes, and being marketed solely as a sports car it would make itself more easily excused for any flaws that it did have. That allowed the company to develop itself before it started offering family-suited cars of its own design.
@@TWX1138 everything you’ve said here though is irrelevant. This ISNT a budget brand. They’re pricing their car above those established brands. You can persuade people to cope or ignore major faults when your product is genuinely significantly cheaper. This isn’t, so the issues are just unforgivable.
As a Vietnamese who has fed up with headlines about how amazing it was and how much it being sold, this is the thing that not just me but pretty sure alot of Vietnamese would like to see. So i really appreciate your honesty
Americans love options and I’d love to see Vinfast succeed but it’s already a crowded market. If the company can improve it’s product and possibly undercut the competition in price then it could do well but right now it’s a 6 year old company without a proven track record with a car that has issues and is priced above it’s established and brand name trusted competitors.
It's an amazing car for not being able to flee from the Vietcong. Can't start it quickly, can't accelerate with it quickly, it tortures Americans with all sorts of beeps and seasickness, the mirrors give a false sense of security and when the Vietcong cuts the car off in an ambush, the American driver can't steer, since in such a stressful situation it's very ease to forget to use the indicator.
@@mattkennedy6115 It needs to be competitive in its pricing vs what it offers. This does not look like a $50,000 car. It looks like a $25,000 car. I could see it competing with, say, the Bolt. But a Model 3 is a MUCH better car in every aspect, and also significantly cheaper.
@@Courtesyflush52I live in a third world country (slightly less so than Vietnam, but still not first world) and it's very common around here for the media to appeal to nationalistic pride for clicks. It's just a form of clickbait in the end.
It seems very brazen to me for them to dare to sell this car for $50,000... especially when reputable brands are selling competing vehicles for significantly cheaper.
Please please please do more followup episodes on Vinfast. You guys have a chance to document the rise (or fall) of a new company and that's pretty amazing. Not to mention with you guys covering the issues, it puts a light to the problems and will help them be fixed and or known.
The parent company, VinGroup and the VN government literally won't let it fail. It's become a source of pride in Vietnam, the first Vietnamese car company, and as such they have a vested interest in keeping it alive no matter what. The embarrassment of it failing is not acceptable to the VN gov or the owner of the parent company, as well a not acceptable to the province it's in. I work right near where they built the factory and watched them quasi-legally take over the island and force around 10-12 thousand people out of their homes with barely any compensation to make the factory, and at the annual provincial bragging meetings I'm invited to VinFast is considered one of the bright points for the provincial government.
@earthknight60 people truly don't realize how horrifically corrupt and awful the world can be to so many, once the wheels of industry decide to land in your area. It's so sad to hear about all of those people forced out because of money. And worst of all, as you said they barely got any of the money being made despite being forced out of their homes and lives. The "money at all costs" attitude is poisonous
@@earthknight60 Vietnam has learned nothing from the other Asian countries (especially Korea) and how their corrupt giant conglomerates almost took down the entire countries economy when they eventually failed. They all go from invincible to overloaded with debt and bad decision making sooner or later. And by that time they are too big to save.
I don't know where you got the information when you said VF forced many people to leave their homes when VF built a company without compensation. In Vietnam, moving people to new places is compensated. with money or arrangements to resettlement. The people you said did not receive compensation when they left, I am sure their use or stay at that place is illegal and does not belong to them. What do you think when you build a house or live in a place that does not belong to you and when asked to leave, the government or the owner of that land must compensate you?@@earthknight60
No glycol cooling system,no exhaust system, no petrol system, no forged pistons, no forged rods , no block casting, no extensive engine milling , no extensive engine assembly, no emission system, no catalytic converter, no emission certification …. The price is absurd (for most e cars) (at least tesla gives you “more car”)
“Just make a car that’s electric powered. You don’t have to make it all weird.” Couldn’t agree with you more. At this point I’d happily pay a premium for that.
Give me a BMW E46 that uses electric motors and maybe some stiffer suspension to compensate for the batteries and motors. That's all we need. Or take the shell of a 2010 Honda Civic and put batteries and motors into it. Don't touch the interior or exterior. Just leave it alone.
No Dont give me a piece of garbage electric car anyway that ways 5600 pounds is a glorified wrecking ball and doesn’t even sound good and is achually worse for the environment than an gas car they are GARBAGE I have a 1999 Mercedes and I love it no stupid chimes sounds great runs forever and is easy to work on without waiting 30 minutes to charge and needing a genius to work on get outta here man.
I like the comparison to video games being released too early. That happens a lot in software. And it seems like the more software-controlled vehicles become, that trend will sadly continue.
I would love to see if they can fix their problems. New companies have growing pains, as long as they work hard to learn from those and grow, they will do well. Would love to see if their updates actually fixed anything.
Welcome to how a lot of product releases are handled in Vietnam. The first adopters are the test subjects because the companies didn't finish their resting prior to release. It's not all companies, but it's pretty common here.
@@dansanger5340There are Tesla drivers who have had their car cause a crash, but because they’re believers in the future of self driving cars they still religiously drive autopilot.
As a Vietnamese, thanks for your honest review. If we, a Vietnamese reviews as fair as you are, a numerous vinfast fans will curse and yell at me as an evil enemy.
A Vinfast dealership opened in my area & their cars are extremely dusted over. Their back lot looks like those vehicles have not been touched since they were parked there. It's insane that they wouldn't even bother to keep them clean lol
The driving aid not allowing you to change lanes without blinkers is seriously scary! What if you have to avoid a kid or something that's suddenly running out in front of the car? D:
That feature is just retarded altogether. An assisting system that prevents the driver from turning the wheel just because you didn’t blink should be considered as a safety hazard and never should get a type approval. This car is dangerous and shouldn’t be on these streets.
Keep in mind: Vinfast is a Vietnamese company manufacturing cars. Vietnam is a country composed of a population that primarily drives scooters and motorbikes.
Correction: VinFast does Not make VF8 car. They just assembled it for China to try to harm Americans like they do with Fentanyl. My only advice to everybody: stay away from it.
@@chinbosschinboss2484 Of course, I did. But no, It's not about whether the car is garbage. It's about what hungta5679 said. What he said does not make sense. Look at Korean and Japanese people, at the time they built cars and exported to the world, there were not so many of the their local people has cars. So Vietnam's current condition is not the problem here.
I hope they fix that lane change issue. If you have to make an emergency lane change to avoid a collision, the last thing I'm thinking about is putting on my blinker
True, but on the other hand a lot of drivers these days seriously need this! Maybe use the chime thing, if you're changing lanes without the turn signal it lets you but yells at you, maybe that will teach a few people to use their #@%$ turn signal!
@@quillmaurer6563 Then the Arnold Voice would be Nice: Put on the Blinkers cause there's a car behind there, This blinker thing should really annoy the BMW and AUDI Drivers who are just harassment on the roadways, Their Subscription Plans shitshow with that they should make this Blinker warning as a feature which would only be removed by a subscription if they won't buy this then the Blinker or Lane departure warning in Arnold Voice show annoy them in their whole vehicle experience,😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@superblaster7297 So you're saying BMWs would have a system that nags the driver about using their turn signal unless they pay a subscription fee to turn it off? Brilliant! I visualize the classic BMW driver being like that meme of the sweaty guy trying to decide between two red buttons.
Lol, this thing is like learning to drive with an over anxious parent. Constantly nagging you, turning the wheel while you're driving and making you wait forever just to turn on the car. 😂
they sued Vietnamese owners for complaining about the cars here. I'd say they deserved all of this. What do you expect from a manufacturer abandoned their gas engine after like 1 year of production anyway lul
@@cheesecurd100sI took the mirror of my friends bmw or the car did. I was riding the yellow line due to parked cars swerved over to miss a car parked to far out and sent me right back into it
This is the basic feature of the car already. If you intentionally change lanes, you will still be allowed to change lanes. sometimes you neglect the lane keeping feature which can startle you. You can turn it off on vinfast.
The problem is they criticize the car unresonably, like constantly jumping on the paddle, which shows how fabricated they are, not the brand of the car
@@Goonercry why would someone make up criticism for no apparent reason? Car makers that has been in the car industry for decades can't even get it right at times. What makes you think a relatively new to car industry with not much research and development gets it right away? Even Chinese car brands now put in millions of miles into researching engine and gearbox, road conditions for their cars.
I remembered similar complaints when Japanese cars were first introduced in America in the 70s, yet consumers were willing to buy because they were much cheaper and affordable. For me to gamble on a car from an known company, it has to be a lot cheaper, like $20K.
well the vf8 has an MSRP of 46,000, mind you I had to actually DIG through the website to find it. They advertise cars by the monthly payment which is already disgusting. The volume model of the VF8 is 51,800 msrp. Their next model is the VF9 which is a 3 row big suv that will start at 89,000. Total sham of a company
I was in vietnam earlier this year and saw a vinfast there and was mostly fascinated. I knew it'd have problems, but its neat to see something being tried by another country. Also, its probably largely because buying a car in vietnam is absolutely insane because of import taxes. your standard camry or civic can run almost 70k usd.
It's the same everywhere in South East Asia. Domestic car brands get all the love from the government so that they will avoid competing with cheaper foreign car brands so they put insane import tax/tariffs so only the rich could buy them and the average consumer will have to resort buying local car brands
@@aerithofmyoreI disagree there. It’s actually quite the opposite. Import tax are for cars that is not available by the manufacturer. Reason that is its to push the manufacturer to also make the cars that is not available to be produced in the country. Not only the country get more access but more income from manufacturing and workers to be able to benefit from it aswell. Basically trade deal that benefits both. But since these cars manufacture is not doing it then they have to be tax.
Those safety equipment issues just make me appreciate my focus rs so much more. A modern car and has no stupid stuff to tell me how to drive or try and drive for me
Dumb comment. Ever seen those videos of car crash compilations? 80% of all of those accidents, hell 80% of all traffic fatalities/injuries/crashes would NOT happen if the majority of cars on the road were equipped with good driver's aids.
@@cenciende9401 Dumb comment. 80% of them wouldn't have happened if people were better drivers or took defensive driving courses. You can't rely on the car to save itself and you. My car is a driver's car, you wouldn't understand clearly.
@@FaeraOthronus I see what you're saying but when there are 80 plus year old drivers still driving who have terrible motor skills I'm glad technologies like automatic emergency braking exists. Unfortunately not everyone in the world is going to be a competent driver and these kinds of newer safety aids can really help prevent somebody who can actually drive from getting hit by somebody who can't.
@@FaeraOthronus Absolutely nailed it. I love my 1990 Volvo 240 Wagon for the very reason it lacks all of the modern tech everyone has gotten to used. I want a car like that so I can not get distracted or annoyed by it being akin to a overbearing, paranoid parent being a backseat driver and critic, and so I can ensure I'm always keeping 100% attention to everything all the time while driving. Its akin to airliners now days - everyone is trained and so used to using the autopilot features, that most modern crashes are caused by a lack of experience and confidence in knowing their planes when they need to take over from it. Or people being utterly clueless navigational because all they know is GPS.
Agreed, to much focus is put on the "Real-mechanic channel" where they just other people content for thier own content. I want a return to the old new show everyday format.
That is one of the most patently absurd things I have heard in a while. From my extensive experience with embedded sensing design, I am almost certain that what happened is this: They (correctly) assumed that the sensor could suffer two distinct failure modes (open circuit and short circuit). short circuit would indicate full power and open would indicate 0 power. Additionally, the sensor might have a single faulty reading due to electrical noise in the vehicles power distribution, probably owing to undersized power distribution cabling, and not enough capacitance (both are common faults of cost cutting efforts). So to avoid this problem, they put a software lag to prevent spurious readings from causing unwanted acceleration. This "solution" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of safety best practices, and was clearly implemented by some individual or group with zero practical safety critical sensor experience. Every other drive by wire sensor system is designed so that electrically they only use a smaller range of the sensors output (typically 20% to 80%). This approach allows the computer to detect every electrical fault because electrical faults will always register outside of the 20-80 percent range. Someone stomping on the accelerator will only result in a reading of 80%, however, and the computer can distinguish between such an input and a fault condition. In short, this engineering failure is extremely worrying and is an indicator of inexperienced / unqualified engineers designing and implementing safety critical systems. This is a huge red flag. DO NOT DRIVE this vehicle; it is very likely to have other dangerous safety critical faults.
But if the car doesn't accelerate in the moment you want it to, it acts in unwanted ways ALL the time. Can you imagine pre-throttling just to overtake another car? Horrible. I hope you can turn it off.
I used to live in Hanoi, Vietnam. Lots of Vietnamese people have VinFasts. There was a running joke among my Vietnamese friends that had them that you could only drive them in Hanoi because if you dared to take them to the countryside, you'd never make it back to Hanoi.
@@Sashazur If you read the comments again, you'll see that they say there's no charging station. This is not true because every 30km in Vietnam there is a fast to super fast charging station of Vinfast cars. They have invested nearly 1 billion dollars for charging stations throughout Vietnam.
FINALLY!! my ex used to work for them - the blackmail and corruption is fucking horrible. We were forced to sell her motorbike to buy a vinfast scooter (she was a vinschool teacher) because the automotive side was failling. They threatened to fire her, take away pay, bonuses, they would lock her out of the gated community until she bought one.... we tried to fight it so hard
SHARE THIS WITH YOUR FRIENDS! Dear my American friends, there is a "Vietnamese" community in the US is spreading a lot of hate and political propaganda, trying to stop Vinfast from advancing. They belonged to a defeated puppet regime in the past and have been very salty about their own losses that everything seems like a "development" coming from Vietnam will become their target. Don't be lead by them, trust your own experience!
That start up was pathetic. I have an EV and that's exactly what I expected the start up to be. Get in, put on your seatbelt, brake and drive. I'm pretty sure it would have taken most EV drivers around 15 seconds to figure it out.
Best part was tracking how the whiteboard items kept changing, and the random order in which they were filled. 4:44 Sunroof is next. 4:46 Sunroof is gone, Driver Aids have already failed 5:32 Sunroof is back, chimes are un-bad, no driver aids. 6:09 Chimes and aids are bad again, no sunroof.
VinF..k are Chinese cars, assembled in VN. Low quantity, high price, unreliable, but Vinf..k has the largest vc paid commentators on the web. Did you know vinf..k called cops and took a customer to court for complaining about faults on his new car (Lux 2.0) that vinf..k couldn't fix ??? That's how vc operates....😂😂😂 Thanks for the hand-on, straight review guys!!!
@@khangNguyen-qg3nm Thời đại 4.0 dzồi, sao lại không? "Diệt nôm" đã làm được chiếc xe máy ra hồn chưa mà đòi làm xe hơi ??? Chẳng qua ráp đồ tàu thôi ai mà o biết?
Honestly between their promise to patch all the software issues out and the "Special After Sales Policy" it sounds like they really do care, even its a bit embaressing to need to do all that in the first place.
Most judge on your recovery after you fumble. So hopefully they get it done and show they care. I really do believe this company can go far if they keep it up
It's hard to give them a chance after they basically bullied reviewers and journalist into giving them positive reviews before the car shipped to the US. Did you read about their borderline mafia tactics during their initial showing in Vietnam, too? Following journalist around, not letting them do anything the company didn't allow, nor were they allowed to actually drive the car they went there to review. Don't get me started on all the shills they pay to troll comment sections on automotive websites and start arguments with people who dislike the car. They deserve to fail.
If they cared at all they wouldn't have rushed the release of this thing. Not only does that show a lack of the respect to the customers, but it's also potentially dangerous! Frankly, I hope they fail. If we start tolerating this kind of reckless nonsense with cars (things that we literally trust with our lives) then other car companies will follow suit. Soon, we'll have day one patches for buggy EVs like they're a bloody video game! If they had just made a safe, reliable, good car instead of trying to make a quick buck, they'd probably be doing fine!
@@arcanondrum6543 yup. German cars and German “engineering” are complete hype. Over engineered crap. And when it breaks, Germans will blame you for lack of maintenance. Meanwhile a Corolla drives forever with just oil changes.
@@Immigrantlovesamerica true german cars are associated more with prestige rather than performance and durability. In my country rich people who own german cars use them for social media hype and to blend in with other people.
@@rampagingronin German brands are absolutely marketed as performance brands. Take Lexus or Acura. They're just as luxurious and yet they last 10x longer.
Remember in the olden days when a company would ruin their reputation and be suited for false advertising when they released a broken product on the market and not get multiple years of grace to fix/patch the problems? Those were the days.
Seems a $30k car at best. And that's with a working blind spot/ accelerator pedal and steering that let's you change lanes without having to indicate(like swerving to avoid a head on crash)
This is one of the best car channels on TH-cam. Thanks for all the honesty and humor. I also like the positive attitude you have and the criticisms you do are legitimate.✌️
I went to the auto show in LA and on the way in was approach by a woman asking if I'd like to tro sign up to preview a vinfast. I didn't even know she was talking about cars. With a name like that, I honestly thought it was some kind car title or buying service. Wasn't until I saw their booth inside that I realized she had been asking if I wanted to take a riding tour in a car...
I live in the mountains of Vietnam. I see dozens of Vinfast cars every day. All new. Most are, stylistically, cheap looking copies of other top selling brands. And yes, they are more expensive than better cars here too. I recently bought a new Kia Sonet, and couldn't be happier with it. It gets 730km to a tank, and gas is cheap here, and the detail and features in it are incredible for $30k. I didn't even consider Vinfast because of base-price alone.
Here in Vietnam, seeders praise this car with words like "Top-notch" or "Peak product". And what pisses me of the most is the fact that there are so many of these MFs around, doing the work for free. They even attach loving Vinfast to patriotism: If you don't love Vinfast Unconditionally, you're a fucking treason! I get it a new product/brand will need to learn a lot to improve. But the key to that lies the user/supporter community, which Vinfast doesn't have. So when Vietnamese recognize the harsh truth that making a car does not get them to the top of the world, and there are a lot more to be done, Vinfast may have a chance. Until then, it's just a waste of everyone's time and money.
I feel you bro. My 12th grade military study teacher keep praising on the brand, I literally out laugh the Joker since it was an online class so nobody would know I'm laughing at him.
Tens of thousands of VinFast EVs including VinFast electric motorbikes, e34, VF8, VF9, and VinBus known as VinFast fully electric public buses carrying 50-60 passengers at a time, have been manufactured and currently on the road safely in Vietnam since 2018, when the first electric motorbike - Klara was introduced. Most importantly, hundreds of units of VinBus-electric public buses have been providing service between the cities, every day from morning to night - from 5:00 to 21:00, 7 days a week transporting about 300,000 passengers daily in Vietnam since December 2022, and so far, not a single unit of VinBus catching fire or exploding or losing control resulting in any death, has been reported! In addition, thousands of units of Vinfast e34 as electric public Taxi cabs have been on the road in Vietnam since 4/2023, and there has been no problem so far. Similarly, thousands of units of VinFast e34 (a smaller version of VF8) and VF8 have been delivered to customers since 10/15/2021, and 9/2022, respectively. All the Vinfast EVs are currently on the road safely without any accidents of catching fire, exploding or losing control in Vietnam since then. This clearly explained the quality and safety standards of Vinfast EVs.
@@lightofwisdom17 lmao bro. In my college people would be like: “Eww, isn’t that the rip-off version of my 5 series?”. And I can totally understand where that comes from. Great vehicles for the price, but they aren’t in control of the technology.
@@gaolutsoctrang4507 Oh many VF owners prepared their own fire-proof suicide note in case there is smt happen to them. All "intentional" accidents are reported by that one-state dictatorship propaganda media while all the independent reporters get sued by VF immediately for spreading "false information" if they speak up about anything negative about the shitty cars. Who gonna believe in that dictatorship statistics, only you man. Nobody in America knowing about freedom of press believe in your sh*tty numbers.
I'm Vietnamese and I laughed at all of my friends when they asked if I was going to lease this vehicle. Growing up I was always told to never question what meat was in the food, why is there always a loose hair in the food. We also never bought anything Made in Vietnam except for their food (ironic right?). Their response is the typical "What you want, what you want? I give you $5 go away" mentality.
@@MrBuihongmanh bruh he's not mocking his origins so much as airing out general grievances every Vietnamese have had. Keep pretending the problem isn't there and wonder why our country still considered poorer than others in Asia.
Great video. I live in Việt Nam and with a 200% import tax on foreign cars coupled with the pride of having a Vietnamese produced car, they completely dominate the EV market here. Plus VinGroup are a massive conglomerate here too.
Have you ever owned a car? Do you think Vietnamese consumers are stupid? Vinfast is the only electric car company that provides a wide system of telecommunications stations throughout Vietnam. Foreign car companies do not have a charging station system in Vietnam. Would you buy an electric car that you can only take home to charge?
The car industry is legit like the video game industry; dlcs, micro transactions, every company thinks they can charge premium prices, and now unfinished products
They're trying to move to "subscribe monthly to enable x feature" model, which will fail spectacularly. Either people will buy older used cars, or jailbreak the new ones.
You know even with all this cars problems it’s kinda nice to see a company offering cash and trying to fix the problems instead of just selling you the lemon and moving on, like most American car companies
that's just not true. If that happened to you, you may have an unethical person at a specific dealer, but as a whole that just is not true. I have owned multiple dodge and ford vehicles over the last 20 years, and have never once had a problem with having something about the car that was "lemony" (if that makes sense) replaced. The main unethical thing about American car dealers I don't like is the fact that they all try to upsell you with features and extras you don't want or need, but lets face it, that is rampant in just about every industry or segment in America. But any problems, multiple dealers I have dealt with have always taken care of whatever problems that have arisen In fact, most times I've had a problem with something that should not have happened, the dealer has gone out of their way to do extra - last American car I had was a Challenger. One day it wouldn't start (when the car was still pretty new, and there was no way it could have been the battery or ignition going out). The dealer brought a tow truck out, took my car in, diagnosed what the problem was and fixed it (some kind of relay or something was defective), and for free did like a full all points inspection while it was in there for free. When it was done, as I live alone, they sent a car to pick me up and get me to the dealer so I could drive her home. With things they replaced that they didn't need to yet (filters, belts, etc), the main repair, and labor, I had well over $1000 worth of service done for free.
So if they give you Cash to fix the issues but later you keep encountering the same problems after purchasing the car, who would be responsible? You? What if you kill someone? What if you are hospitalized and the total cost exceeding the price of car, who would be responsible? 😒?
voting for another vinfast video to see how they progress and if they can fix their bugs and issues. they are a new company so it will be interesting to see how they work through their problems
Yeah, you can't really fault growing pains, "throwing money at problems" in this instance is more or less just the cost of being a start up, especially a car manufacturing start up.
In Vietnam the roads are full of motorscooters, so the paranoid bleepers and acceleration delay might make more sense in it's natural environment. Granted, it was a big oversight for export models, but you could do a Vietnam episode, and also check out some popular bikes here, the traffic in Saigon is pretty crazy.
@@cheeselouise Nope, all the seatbelt fasten thing is for safety. it could be more confusing for first-timers than others (I don't really know since I've only tested the only EV of VF), but from the 2nd time onwards, it's no more complicated than an automatic car for me.
If the car is put in Sport mode, it is expected some sort of sensitive acceleration. If navigate through crazy traffic, then lazy accelerator in comfort/eco mode is more appropriate. And, the beepers don't help in crazy traffic since you are surround by motorcycles. All you can do is navigate slowly through them.
True, but if they don't rush, and take too long time from the design to consumers their product will be obsolete when it comes out on the market, New car manufacturers have close to 0 chances to compete with the big players nowadays.
They are communist scam. They buy parts from China and assemble them in US to scam tax, credit and stocks. In Vietnam, they have police intimidate any customers who gave bad reviews framing them as anti government.
I can’t imagine trying to perform an evasive maneuver and being forced into a crash because I didn’t turn my blinker on in the panic to not get creamed!
I dont know how strong the steering motor is on this particular car, I drove a skoda once with lane assist and the steering wheel was just softly suggesting to stay in the lane. I could easily overpower it and go where I wanted to.
I drove a rental with this feature. Unless it’s totally broken on this model, it doesn’t prevent you from turning without a blinker, it just pushes back slightly. You can easily overpower it. In an emergency you probably wouldn’t even notice it.
Looks like most of issues are software related. As a SW engineer, I would say, if they force too hard to deliver an incomplete package, to be sure it will fail fast.
This is likely what happen when they don't set the priority of the design correctly. I'm a firmware guy and I can tell you these lags are likely putting too much real time stuff into non real time, having single core doing works requiring multi cores, and not having the architecture set correctly. It would take someone with experience to do that right and they probably didn't hire the right people to start the architecture.
As you said the car was released to early without being tested accordingly. VF reminds me how Hyundai introduced itself to the US market back on the 80’s with so much issues as the years went bye , Hyundai is refined and have good cars that compete with other cars within its car type category. Impressive N models , SUVs and EV/Hybrid cars. VF seems to rely on tech developed by other EV companies, using that to push their product in the market, I hope it’ll not be a Frisker Karma like flop. Also for $50K I ain’t gonna buy one, I am gonna buy a petrol/gas powered vehicle and use it till their be no gas in the earth. I will always pick a combustion engine over a EV.. I want to hear the engine and be the one to decide when and where I can buy my own gas, without worrying how far the car will take me… I almost forgot I do like cars that are fuel operated with actual shifting transmission automatic or manual. All that cVt transmission crap is a huge NO for me.. I want a car that’s a car not one that operates like a snowmobile or EV…
6:13 imagine if you are trying to avoid a rear end from stopped traffic? The car won’t let you change lanes in an emergency, you have to remember to signal in an emergency!
They are communist scam. They buy parts from China and assemble them in US to scam tax, credit and stocks. In Vietnam, they have police intimidate any customers who gave bad reviews framing them as anti government.
The steering is not a new thing. In a Tesla, it will also not let you change lanes without a blinker (unless you turn that off in the setting), but if you yank the wheel hard enough, it will still change the lane, for both the Tesla and the Vinfast.
12:50 Preach it. This is my biggest issue with EVs, on top of being insanely expensive. Fixing things that aren't broken and re-inventing the wheel. Tesla being the biggest offender.
You haven't driven a Tesla. There's a lot of things that are different, but for a reason. If you cant handle any change, then I guess stick to legacy manufacturers.
@@ncvwrx2759 No and I never will. Sure, there might as well be a reason. Not a good one. The problem is, all manufacturers seem to be moving to electric only and while the biggest offender, Tesla isn't the only one that's replacing simple to use mechanical switches and buttons with stupid screens.
The bizarre thing in the EV space is if the components are less and maximum amount of budget goes for Batteries and Software then how come these things aren't cheap from the Legacy Manufacturing ICE vehicles like shouldn't this be the main question after their claim of this EV being clean energy, On the Tesla front shouldn't they be selling a Good Quality cheap cars in US instead of Some Uber expensive Sports car beating Sedan, like they did it for Publicity but take the case of Dodge were they known just for their Challenger and Charger they have their space but their are also other cars which catered to other economic class also, So for better EV adoption shouldn't they just lower the prices or make some Cheaper Fun to Drive car to cater to everyone instead catering to those people who are in Higher range of category who can afford Super Car beater Sedan and their shit services like really afford some tantrum services, where the company has their tantrums and their customer base behave like some sort of person in abusive relation, This is the thing which isn't understandable that these so called EV manufacturers claim making EV cheap but then again, they price it near or in some cases higher from the ICE vehicles and then make ads to fool people into adopting into some expensive EV cars which then comes out as half baked and Make consumers the Lab Rats or rather BETA Testers of their own hard earned money, like isn't this just a simple mockery of the people who pour their hard earned money into these so called BETA projects and get screwed,
hi, a vietnamese here. This is the first time i have ever heard of insight about this car although im local to this model (since vinfast control the media quite aggressively). So, i have several surprises after watching this -The car is actually cheaper than in Vietnam (same msrp, but Vietnam has like 15k worth of voucher to make it up). To put into perspective, old model crv cost 50k and performance car cost x3 -its actually less bugs than i expected. i have read on forum about a man got his battery died twice, one time on highway at night, without any road lights, with tons of issues like couldnt turn the signal on. But yeah, mostly battery issue. About softwere, my mom who has some of her friends work at vinfast said they are trying to not rely on existing patent to cut down cost (by making their own technology). And apparently, they can fix bugs that fast bcs there are tons of vf8 running as taxi (and also users' complaints) About that sensitive sensor, I think its because of the traffic in Vietnam. Basically its like a junior version of India, a bit safer but fkin insane In the end, dont buy this car. It is indeed unfinished product and even with vietnamese like me, its not very wise to buy this. Unless, you are given the voucher, living in Vin facility and wants to buy an electric car in Vietnam
Yes, we all know that you are Vietnamese. There are two kinds of Vietnamese. The proud Vietnamese and the American's dog Vietnamese. 🎉. U just win a prize. Here is your treat. Good dog.
@@kenjile24 bro, i literally applause them for being less buggy, sell cars cheaper than most of their competitors and đefen them about the sensor and stuff. The vf8 is literally bad but if they can improve it in the new vf7, i would buy it fr
The No Man's Sky comparison is, I think, very apt. They will likely iron out all these issues and might just as well add interesting features at some point to make it a worthy competitor. Looks like they, at the very least, are not just taking the L and are strapping in for a slew of fixes. I can respect that.
@@charlot6590 Why not? Tesla sacrificed the lives of dozens if not hundreds of Americans in their stupid quest to do it all by themselves. And even today it doesn't work. Last week I nearly had an accident because an idiot was illegally using the broken Autopilot system and it interpreted slowly upcoming traffic jam as a queu to start instant panic-braking to maintain the full distance to the car in front. A normal driver would slowly reduce the gap as the speed slows and that way the space between cars is the buffer. And because Tesla's dumb system acts like that, effectively you have no space to stop and are guaranteed to have accidents. I barely missed the dumb idiot and the Tesla driver gave me the dumbest cow-eyed look when I honked like "What's wrong with keeping a 50 meter gap in a standstill and forcing you to nearly crash?" is normal for him. I'm not saying a company injuring and killing people to get their act together is good, but once that is the precedent it becomes unfair criticism to hold others to a higher standard.
I think the chime was supposed to be designed for the Vietnamese market. In Vietnam, there are constantly small scooters driving around and very near your car while you are driving. They often keep following distances of less than 5 meters and can move very unpredictably due to their size. The chimes are probably designed to alert drivers in this situation which is very uncommon on American suburban roads
Might not be such a bad idea, depending on the neighborhood. Walking's one of the best exercises around. If Bernando LaPallo lived to be over 100 while walking 2 miles every day (though that's surely not the only reason why he lived to be that old,) and if walking reduces depression, I'm pretty happy about having a lot of walks.
I got pissed off when BMC fitted a female voice that repeated the same message every time the car was started. Luckily, I was only a passenger in the car and only at weekends. My brother sold the car 6 months later.
I remember my parents 1976 Subaru station wagon… I now drive a 2010 Outback, premium edition… Yea, there are flaws and weaknesses, but if a manufacturer is providing extra services, to help consumers improve their personal experience, after purchase, it means they are going to put that customer’s experience into future developments… Sounds like many of the things you’re complaining about are “not what you’re used to,” rather than “is this going to get me to and from, safely.” Roads and driving habits are different, in Vietnam. I like to point out, that you boys are big. Those cars were made by ppl a foot shorter, and 2/3 your weight. If the car was designated to carry 300 lbs, and you put 500 lbs in it, you’re gonna have issues. If you change components, to handle the extra weight, required for the American market, that will probably go away… What I’m getting, from your story has me excited. It sounds like a company that wants to work with customers, to have an enjoyable experience with their product, and begging for feedback. That commitment to customers is what made Subaru such a great car. Hopefully they continue a path, that leads to customers being able to easily upgrade and modify their vehicles, to fit our personal needs… 🤞
@@DeadNoob451 I used to race snowmobiles. I was 5’9”, 160... My buddy was 6’6”, 320lbs… We had nearly identical sleds, but we had the adjustments COMPLETELY different. “Passenger weight” becomes much more of a concern, when the weight of the vehicle is more. That car is more made for “in town driving”… What I’m hoping for, is they are working on making that more adjustable, keeping the customers in mind… People will always want to change, and personalize things. If they provide a good base to start with…
Yes please review it again once they have some time to fix issues. I didn't know this brand existed before now, and I am interested to watch the journey of them either making it or breaking it. More!
To be fair, a lot of blind spot monitors don’t start working until you reach a certain speed. Also Lane Keep in most cars will pull the vehicle back into the lane if you’re just lightly changing lanes without a blinker. There’s usually settings to change the sensitivity of the system or it’ll stop when it realizes you’re pushing through it.
I am so grateful for this car. The material it provides for this and hopefully future hilarious videos is actually priceless. I can't wait to see what they send us next.
Would have been nice to hear the actual owner's opinion after living with it for a while. I thought for sure we were gonna get a 30 second fast take when they mentioned her.
You don't, because Vinfast technically don't sell any VF8 in the US now. They only have a rental program to let people rent it out. If you see any VF8 on the road, it is either a manufactured tag VF8 or VF8 cars have been given to TH-camrs in return for their opinions. I think those TH-camrs do get paid though.
The shudder in reverse would likely show on an incline, where the auto parking brake feature is engaged. Reversing up a slight incline from park, would do it.
I'm from Canada and I drove one at the CNE (Canadian national exhibition) and I was impressed by its acceleration in sport mode, I thought it was a good looking car as well.
I really liked this review. The only part I dislike about electric car reviews that happened in this video specifically is when a manufacturer says they'll fix things with a software update. Comparing this car to early video game releases seems problematic in that vein. A video game has zero chances of harming me or people around me, a video game is also entirely made of software. This car is not made entirely of software, it's made of many hundreds if not thousands of individual components and no manufacturer should ever get to slide on faults with "we'll fix it with a software update". Much like the Chevy Bolt battery, they attempted to fix it with "software" and failed because the failure was entirely physical, waiting for the real fix to come (in the form of a recall of the part) people lost cars and had homes catch on fire. The lack of acceleration, the faulty driver assist, could all be down to using faulty or inferior hardware but are brushed away as software by the manufacturer. Even the lack of a stop/start button might seem trivial but it seems like a cost cutting measure more than a convenience thing. It's also not intuitive as you've shown in the video, in a world where people confuse the gas peddal and brake peddal and harm people because of that, having a clear and visible start/stop button is just sensible.
@@SSGoatanksya bro rent forever and just throw away money. Don’t spend money on an asset or your own vehicle where you have autonomy and privacy. Just take an autonomous ride hail service bro Like I cannot believe this isn’t satire and someone really feels this way.
@@MrGoodeats You're still throwing money away with Insurance, Gas, DMV Renewals, and Maintenance. Can't believe you're letting greedy car companies brainwash you into owning a car when there are more affordable options 🚄🚋🚐🚇🚴
@@SSGoatanks is this satire? 1) in Texas where I live there are no alternative options 2) I’m not a broke loser so paying for the convenience of having my own ability and the FREEDOM to move on my own schedule I don’t care how much it costs. I would much rather drive my comfortable Tesla than sit in the bus with a bunch of literal peons. That is disgusting.
I'm not sure if y'all mentioned this, but if you cannot change lanes without a blinker, that is a severe hazard. If there is something in front of you and you need to swerve out of the way, it may not let you and that could cause crashes
So...starting the car shouldn't have been a mystery to them if they've ever been in a Tesla. You get in and just drive. There's no "start" button. The car recognizes you using the key fob and/or a phone app and it only operates for that person.
@@tonyedgett4243 That it won't, but there are some real issues. BYD in Europe disables the dashcam because Germany has extreme crybaby privacy laws where it is a literaly criminal offense to use a dashcam under most circumstances. So put in a different software version and voila: 360 degree dashcam at no extra cost.
@@tonyedgett4243 Software can be fixed online. Hardware can be fixed through recall/part replacement or they leave it like that for the first owner, while silently fixing it for the later owners.
follow-up yes please. I would love to see progress, and also a new manufacturer enter the market on principle, so I absolutely think they deserve a chance to figure their sh*t out and try to redeem themselves
The chimes are pretty easy to explained. The traffic here in Vietnam is… not good, so the manufacture decided to put a bunch of sensitive sensors to make the driver stay on guard. Vietnamese people on roads usually are pretty wreck less. On the roads is like filling the blank space or take chances to go through every possible gaps. Feel kinda bad for American people to use the same software as us.
12 years ago. Since 12 years ago, Tesla had cars where you get in, your fob is in your pocket, you put foot on brake, it starts and you drive. Where are these people from that for over a decade this is a surprise?
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ABSOLUTELY DO A FOLLOW UP. If they claim it's fixed... Then let's see it. And I'd recommend the same exact car, but with their patch installed. Not some handpicked model VinFast wants you to try.
Exactly!
yes
nah, they said the same thing in Vietnam but 1 year later nothing happened
Man cars needing patches and updates is so crazy and dystopian lol
It doesn't auto update?
Imagine trying to avoid a collision but the car refuses to steer because you didn't turn on the blinkers
Yeah pretty dangerous. On the other hand everyone should use their blinkers
on the other hand, imagine turning on lane holding and then complaining because it holds the lane.
maybe they could compromise and let heavy braking cancel the lane holding feature.
A lot of cars do that nowadays. Not just Vinfast.
I remember an Audi hire car with the lane assist would shake like mad if I changed lanes without using the indicators it was at midnight and I was the only one on that particular road 😂
Many cars do it, but it might give some insurance benefits to have. Might. The annoying part is that the vehicle will likely keep a warning light on if you turn off 'safety' features.
If anyone wonders what a better implementation is, my nissan's wheel vibrates when i go over a line without blinkers. You know you're wrong, and you're still in control without needing to be yelled at either. That's it
The fact that it blocks you from changing lanes without the blinker is so dangerous. I've had plenty of situations where I needed to avoid some obstacle on very short notice (pot holes, animals, debris, even other cars etc.) the car might not see, and had to go over the line slightly. This car would just push me back into them
fr wtf were they even thinking with that
If you steer hard enough you can switch lanes
I was thinking this EXACT thing. Sometimes you NEED to be able to suddenly jerk the car away from an obstacle and ffs you can't wait for your blinker to turn on first.
@@bmwe30serieslmao Fighting with your steering wheel is the last thing you need when you’re trying to dodge an obstacle in the roadway
Steer hard enough, it will change lane. Tesla cars behave same way. It is a safety feature that can be turned off.
I hate when companies make consumers their beta testers! In this case it can be downright dangerous!
It's cheaper to send off something and deal with the problems that are brought forward than to spend millions testing before delivering a product! That's the world we live in now... Sadly.
@@theminicooper what's the cost per day though to the manufacturer? oh right, $100/day if you're VinFast.
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@@ndtung,bullshit !!
And the customer pays full price for the privilege of doing Vinfast’s R&D for them.
You know what is the worst part? Wanting to avoid an accident and LAS taking control of the steering wheel because you didn't use the turn signal... That's a nightmare...
You can override it but turning directly instead of lightly
@@BeardedBear69 but that's not how I avoid an accident. sometimes you need to gently steer away, not jerk the car into another lane, and possibly a worse accident.
Shit's retarded yo.
My hyundai has lane assist/lane keeping. With it turned on, if I don't signal, it gives a nudge/resistance, but it isn't something that'll stop me at all if i have to make an emergency lane change. That's just how lane assist works. It's meant to nudge people back into the lane if they weren't paying attention to the road.
But it's useful if, say, i want to take a sip of water and the highway isn't perfectly straight.
@@willyolio9590 My Lexus has the same feature and it is one of the best on the market... and i still hate it. But this car whatever the name is, it is the worst i have seen...
Must be really bad. Considering how many POS there is the car market.
If you eventually do a "Did Vinfast fix their issues" video, I vote for including a getaway skit.
Lmao yes, I agree they should give them a shot.
slasher film with the vf8
@@tardigrade0708 grade it by the type of getaway. Kindergarten drop-off vs. zombie apocalypse vs. slasher film.
This video: Kindergarten drop-off Karen with a walker ✅ with caveats that you can't rely on the blindspot detection and may get continuously triggered by the chimes thinking it's the bell from Karen's walker.
Maybe some of the software bugs. But you can't OTA you way out of that poorly tuned suspension, and that would be a deal breaker for me. Crazy part is Vinfast got their start building rebodied BMW SUVs. Some of the parts on the VF8 look to be last gen BMW parts bin stuff. They've apparently learned nothing from BMW despite being able to build BMWs on their production lines for several years.
W vid idea
It's like this car managed to put all of the features I hate about modern cars in one vehicle.
I would 1000% rather have a yugo. Or a horse
@@covid19virus59 in which language
Sometimes less is more. There's nothing wrong with an entry vehicle with early 00's options.
@@andrewthacker1389 and at least the yugo sold at a super low price (msrp 3999) which means at today's dollars you could drive out between 7-8k. Granted it was a slow slush bucket but it was the 80's (most cars sucked during that time anyway).
@@Kia_SoullessIt can be in German (depending on context). But I don’t think anybody cares about it when referring to the car.
I would like to note something about the startup sequence: it's dangerous. One of the things I like about a traditional turn-key-to-start is that if it's late at night or I'm actually in a dangerous situation, turning on the car and flooring it only take a couple seconds. Idgaf about a seatbelt if I've got some person with a knife after me.
well put.i would never own a car with so many ways it wont let you get moving. vinfail.
Truth be told the start up takes long, but in all reality you can step in disengage the ebrake and put it into gear before the system loads. If you're waiting to check your back up camera then you're toast lol
@@gdm2200 I believe that for your average push-to-start, but is that true for this car? I'm assuming you've driven one/looked it up/know someone who has.
I don't know if buckling the seatbelts is actually required for the car to move. But Tesla also has a "no ignition" start sequence. You get in and just put it in gear and drive. There is a brief "power on" delay but that isn't any longer than starting a regular gasoline engine car and driving away.
Chevy now has a feature you can enable; "buckle seat belt to drive", which I find incredibly irritating (I work in car rental) so I typically turn it off.
Quite the opposite imo. Starting with a key requires a couple of steps (turning the key, waiting for ignition, pushing the brake, shifting into drive) and critical seconds. The startup sequence in the VF8 is simply seatbelt on, push the brake, and drive. Much quicker and much safer.
If this car had used a diesel engine, it would've been called VinDiesel
Hahaha! 😂
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If they ever come out with a sequel to the car, it will be VinFurious
I have VinThere
this car doesn't need to be fixed....it's got family
"Just make a car that's electric. Don't make it all weird!" 100%, wish that was a thing from any company.
Volvo EX30
@@GarrettBroadnax It does look like it has a regular shifter which is nice. It has parking assist which I think is a bit weird but at least I can choose not to use it. The deal breaker for me (and to be fair you see this on a lot of gas cars now too) is the massive touch screen controls for everything. Touch screens have no place in driver controls in a car.
Electric cars are dumb
@@van3158 yeah because they keep trying to appeal to i toddlers and not car people. It's like video games, they're not made for gamers, they're made for cynical content creators and critics. It sucks
They did and people were not buying them.
Vinfast: You must signal before the steering wheel will let you change lanes
The deer running out into the highway: *Now no one can stop me*
I turned off my lane departure system in my Mazda. It was correcting itself. Too many road construction going on to confuse the system.
No moose test for you!
Bmw driver antithesis
Better than HYUNDAI
@@newchannel1220 Better than Ionic 5 that won world car of the year?
Imagine literally having to "UPDATE" your car before going on a trip 💀
In this case, sure, but the concept of updating isn’t that bizarre. Tesla , Ford, and several others software update their cars.
Unfortunately, with increasing amount of soft features and computer usage in cars, this is the future of all cars. Oh and bsod too. Can't have a real computerized car without an occasional bsod
I have a tesla for 4 years and it seems they update software every 2 weeks.
Going on a trip with this car, are you kidding me
Yeah! I mean, it's much better and makes a lot more sense to buy a whole new car right?! Or having to send it back to factory or exchanging expensive parts... and update right?! Wth were they thinking about?
Is this an example of a new "let the customers beta test it" attitude in a lot of manufacturing now? Not all manufacturer's do this but some doo, and it is rampant in the software world for sure. I think you did a fair take on this car. I am also glad that most auto manufacturer's do not put cars this far from satisfactory on the market.
I think letting the customers beta test is a good strategy to see what you need to get right. Let them complain and you fix it. However sometimes you may have to take it to a shop to fix it
@@ummmbye1228 But beta testers usually get some kind of compinsation for their time, they don't here. To me, that's just wrong. But then again cell phone makers have been doing this for years now when they release a new phone or update the OS. They save money and we get to complain about them till it's fixed.
I don't really play video games anymore, but I'm still immersed in the industry's news. Their analogy is scary to think about with No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk. The "release product now and fix later" mindset is one thing when it's about a harmless video game. It's another when you are talking about a very expensive purchase that can risk your life. It's a mindset I can easily see Germany and America's top companies doing. They know they have a sizeable demographic who will buy their products regardless of their safety.
Let's just hope that regulations are set in place so we don't have everyone driving down the road, not being able to change lanes without blinkers, and stalling in the middle of the highway.
@pappi8338 The funny part about the video game analogy is that car manufacturers are now dabbling in Microtransactions and monthly subscriptions for features already installed on the vehicle. We're in the Era of on-disk dlc except in car version.
“Fix it in post.”
If this was a budget offering, it would have some intrigue to it. Being more expensive than the Ioniq 5 (that is a genuinely awesome car) is egregious.
Wow! And I thought the Scion TC sucked. I have driven a Vin, and You're right on the money; this potential Death Mobile is an overpriced POS.
There's a reason why when companies like Honda, Toyota, Datsun/Nissan, Hyundai, and Kia (back when the last two were not the same company) started here, they started with budget-minded vehicles. People will complain about budget-minded vehicles, but if they're of limited means, they'll probably still buy them as that's potentially all that they can afford.
When entry-level luxury automakers come in to a new market, they're relying on the reputation of the brand in their other markets to offer a reason for entry-level luxury car buyers to consider them. That sort of reputation can take many, many years to build, and if the luxury car market is already reasonably crowded, can be a challenge even for a proven brand.
Tesla, for all their faults, realized that it was going to be tough and chose to use another manufacturer's car body for their first product, focusing on the powerplant and energy source. The car they used as a base was already decent enough as a rolling chassis goes, and being marketed solely as a sports car it would make itself more easily excused for any flaws that it did have. That allowed the company to develop itself before it started offering family-suited cars of its own design.
If the owner of this channel is in Vietnam they will be sued by Vinfast and may go to jail... 😂😂😂
I love my TC tho
@@TWX1138 everything you’ve said here though is irrelevant. This ISNT a budget brand. They’re pricing their car above those established brands. You can persuade people to cope or ignore major faults when your product is genuinely significantly cheaper. This isn’t, so the issues are just unforgivable.
As a Vietnamese who has fed up with headlines about how amazing it was and how much it being sold, this is the thing that not just me but pretty sure alot of Vietnamese would like to see. So i really appreciate your honesty
Americans love options and I’d love to see Vinfast succeed but it’s already a crowded market. If the company can improve it’s product and possibly undercut the competition in price then it could do well but right now it’s a 6 year old company without a proven track record with a car that has issues and is priced above it’s established and brand name trusted competitors.
Do you think the headlines are genuine? Or does it seem like someone is pulling some strings in the background to make the car seem better?
It's an amazing car for not being able to flee from the Vietcong. Can't start it quickly, can't accelerate with it quickly, it tortures Americans with all sorts of beeps and seasickness, the mirrors give a false sense of security and when the Vietcong cuts the car off in an ambush, the American driver can't steer, since in such a stressful situation it's very ease to forget to use the indicator.
@@mattkennedy6115 It needs to be competitive in its pricing vs what it offers. This does not look like a $50,000 car. It looks like a $25,000 car. I could see it competing with, say, the Bolt. But a Model 3 is a MUCH better car in every aspect, and also significantly cheaper.
@@Courtesyflush52I live in a third world country (slightly less so than Vietnam, but still not first world) and it's very common around here for the media to appeal to nationalistic pride for clicks. It's just a form of clickbait in the end.
It seems very brazen to me for them to dare to sell this car for $50,000... especially when reputable brands are selling competing vehicles for significantly cheaper.
I'm okay with all the issues , only if this car was $15k new. At $50k I can't handle anything
Understandable
exactly that if this was marketed as a super budget friendly option it would be ok but at that price ill pass
At 50k for the car it's just an insult! VinFast? More like "VinGarbage"! 😅
@@AB0BA_69As a Vietnamese, I can agree the car isn’t good. I would rather buy a Tesla Model 3
Some of these issues are not acceptable even for a $15k car 15 yrs ago.
Please please please do more followup episodes on Vinfast. You guys have a chance to document the rise (or fall) of a new company and that's pretty amazing. Not to mention with you guys covering the issues, it puts a light to the problems and will help them be fixed and or known.
The parent company, VinGroup and the VN government literally won't let it fail. It's become a source of pride in Vietnam, the first Vietnamese car company, and as such they have a vested interest in keeping it alive no matter what. The embarrassment of it failing is not acceptable to the VN gov or the owner of the parent company, as well a not acceptable to the province it's in.
I work right near where they built the factory and watched them quasi-legally take over the island and force around 10-12 thousand people out of their homes with barely any compensation to make the factory, and at the annual provincial bragging meetings I'm invited to VinFast is considered one of the bright points for the provincial government.
@earthknight60 people truly don't realize how horrifically corrupt and awful the world can be to so many, once the wheels of industry decide to land in your area. It's so sad to hear about all of those people forced out because of money. And worst of all, as you said they barely got any of the money being made despite being forced out of their homes and lives. The "money at all costs" attitude is poisonous
@@earthknight60 Vietnam has learned nothing from the other Asian countries (especially Korea) and how their corrupt giant conglomerates almost took down the entire countries economy when they eventually failed. They all go from invincible to overloaded with debt and bad decision making sooner or later. And by that time they are too big to save.
I don't know where you got the information when you said VF forced many people to leave their homes when VF built a company without compensation. In Vietnam, moving people to new places is compensated. with money or arrangements to resettlement. The people you said did not receive compensation when they left, I am sure their use or stay at that place is illegal and does not belong to them.
What do you think when you build a house or live in a place that does not belong to you and when asked to leave, the government or the owner of that land must compensate you?@@earthknight60
"This car sucks... nothing works properly"
"Yeah... we know. We will patch it with an update"
Didn't knew EA was doing cars now.
It’s priced 3x higher than it should be
No glycol cooling system,no exhaust system, no petrol system, no forged pistons, no forged rods , no block casting, no extensive engine milling , no extensive engine assembly, no emission system, no catalytic converter, no emission certification …. The price is absurd (for most e cars) (at least tesla gives you “more car”)
$5k from tata motors ? They can do it
@@guysumpthin2974 No dude, that thing should not exist at any price !
@@boobothey should pay you for driving one
IN SOCIALIST VIETNAM, CAR CRASHES YOU!
A family died in the Bay Area after this car crashed itself into a tree !
Link pls
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Maybe he's testing the car. Anyway, this car is very safe. You should get used to the EV for 1 hour before taking off like flying.
@@Hahah-e1i 🤔
“Just make a car that’s electric powered. You don’t have to make it all weird.” Couldn’t agree with you more. At this point I’d happily pay a premium for that.
90% of the attempts at making these new electric cars look futuristic have been utter failures. So many bad designs...
Give me a BMW E46 that uses electric motors and maybe some stiffer suspension to compensate for the batteries and motors. That's all we need. Or take the shell of a 2010 Honda Civic and put batteries and motors into it. Don't touch the interior or exterior. Just leave it alone.
No Dont give me a piece of garbage electric car anyway that ways 5600 pounds is a glorified wrecking ball and doesn’t even sound good and is achually worse for the environment than an gas car they are GARBAGE I have a 1999 Mercedes and I love it no stupid chimes sounds great runs forever and is easy to work on without waiting 30 minutes to charge and needing a genius to work on get outta here man.
@@melh4809 full stop
lmao imagine paying a premium for a electric car
I like the comparison to video games being released too early. That happens a lot in software. And it seems like the more software-controlled vehicles become, that trend will sadly continue.
But John, when Pirates of Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don’t eat the tourists
@@RealUnclePerryPirates always care those tourist man.
Look at the iPhone, they keep updating the software over and over….
The problem is when games are buggy people just make TH-cam compilations, when cars are "buggy" people will be killed.
@@infinitesquarez Exactly, the future is scary lol
And unlike a buggy game, a buggy car can actually kill you. Don't forget that part.
Yeah, nobody is going to steal a Vinfast car - even if you left the keys on it 🔑🚗
Or people around you, which could be worse than just you(or I) were dead because of a glitchy car.
Xe này ở việt nam chúng tôi cũng không dám mua
A very high risk, no rewards game
And fck this is not a 60euros game.. this costs thousands.
Not to mention how ironic it is to fuel the chinese market for the sake of ecology.
I would love to see if they can fix their problems. New companies have growing pains, as long as they work hard to learn from those and grow, they will do well. Would love to see if their updates actually fixed anything.
The car that makes you depressed and sick when you drive it. Awesome.
man i didnt know i got turned into a car
i have to have one
jokes on them, I'm already depressed and sick
😂
Just like communism
That "Special After Sales Policy" is like being paid to be a beta tester. Insane.
Or get paid to keep your mouth shut
That's just mind games, making me feel like I've won something when I got .....ahhemm, you know.
Welcome to how a lot of product releases are handled in Vietnam. The first adopters are the test subjects because the companies didn't finish their resting prior to release. It's not all companies, but it's pretty common here.
Unlike Tesla which makes its customers pay thousands to beta test FSD.
@@dansanger5340There are Tesla drivers who have had their car cause a crash, but because they’re believers in the future of self driving cars they still religiously drive autopilot.
"This is the kind of company that throws money at problems" TOO DAMN TRUE, They gotta get their sht together if they don't want to fail
Nolan said that bro
they will fail in the usa market 100%
And the Vietnamese kids say they're proud because of this, bruh😂😂
that kid is called “Redbull 🐄 🐮 “😅😅😅
Viet cars and businesses are a joke.
@@bourbon369
I call them "red cow"
As a Vietnamese, thanks for your honest review. If we, a Vietnamese reviews as fair as you are, a numerous vinfast fans will curse and yell at me as an evil enemy.
I know right. Hahaha
bác không cần phải tên là bình đẳng để comment bình đẳng về hãng xe của việt nam trong 1 cái video chỉ trích đâu bác ơi
Evil enemy luôn ak
Inferiority complex plagues most Vietnamese.
@@nguyentrananhnguyen7900 thấy khó nghe quá hả Vino? , khi người ta nói sự thật thôi mà, còn tên gì kệ người ta
A Vinfast dealership opened in my area & their cars are extremely dusted over. Their back lot looks like those vehicles have not been touched since they were parked there. It's insane that they wouldn't even bother to keep them clean lol
The reason for that is their cars sat in the port of Long Beach for 5 months due to their inability to pass homologation
you really expect a corrupt Vietnamize company to be clean?
If the owner of this channel are in Vietnam they will be sued by Vinfast and may go to jail 😂
They only sold 128 cars so far, in NORTH AMERICA
Worked right near one up until a few weeks ago. Kept meaning to go drive one for the lolz. Never saw a customer there
The driving aid not allowing you to change lanes without blinkers is seriously scary! What if you have to avoid a kid or something that's suddenly running out in front of the car? D:
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You can turn that feature off
Every car with lane keep assist does that. In an emergency situation (wheels rotational speed is faster) It won't do that I believe, not sure
That feature is just retarded altogether. An assisting system that prevents the driver from turning the wheel just because you didn’t blink should be considered as a safety hazard and never should get a type approval. This car is dangerous and shouldn’t be on these streets.
Vinfast's owner here.
Of course, Without blinkers you can still change lanes, you just need to use more force with the steering wheel.
Keep in mind: Vinfast is a Vietnamese company manufacturing cars. Vietnam is a country composed of a population that primarily drives scooters and motorbikes.
Correction: VinFast does Not make VF8 car. They just assembled it for China to try to harm Americans like they do with Fentanyl. My only advice to everybody: stay away from it.
so what?
Ok and they are in a world market.
So the car is garbage.Did you not watch the video?It's a terrible product cause fifty thousand dollars and it does nothing right@@harryduong99
@@chinbosschinboss2484 Of course, I did. But no, It's not about whether the car is garbage. It's about what hungta5679 said. What he said does not make sense. Look at Korean and Japanese people, at the time they built cars and exported to the world, there were not so many of the their local people has cars. So Vietnam's current condition is not the problem here.
I hope they fix that lane change issue. If you have to make an emergency lane change to avoid a collision, the last thing I'm thinking about is putting on my blinker
True, but on the other hand a lot of drivers these days seriously need this! Maybe use the chime thing, if you're changing lanes without the turn signal it lets you but yells at you, maybe that will teach a few people to use their #@%$ turn signal!
@@quillmaurer6563 Then the Arnold Voice would be Nice:
Put on the Blinkers cause there's a car behind there,
This blinker thing should really annoy the BMW and AUDI Drivers who are just harassment on the roadways, Their Subscription Plans shitshow with that they should make this Blinker warning as a feature which would only be removed by a subscription if they won't buy this then the Blinker or Lane departure warning in Arnold Voice show annoy them in their whole vehicle experience,😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@quillmaurer6563Absolutely disagree. That’s a driving culture issue.
@@James-eg3nf Any ideas for how to improve it?
@@superblaster7297 So you're saying BMWs would have a system that nags the driver about using their turn signal unless they pay a subscription fee to turn it off? Brilliant! I visualize the classic BMW driver being like that meme of the sweaty guy trying to decide between two red buttons.
Lol, this thing is like learning to drive with an over anxious parent. Constantly nagging you, turning the wheel while you're driving and making you wait forever just to turn on the car. 😂
That’s a good point. It’s like constantly having a backseat driver.
Least overbearing asian parent
That's why it took me so long to learn how to drive because my mom would freak out over the smallest thing
If the owner of this channel is in Vietnam they will be sued by Vinfast and may go to jail 😂
@@ianfinrir8724 lol, same!
they sued Vietnamese owners for complaining about the cars here. I'd say they deserved all of this. What do you expect from a manufacturer abandoned their gas engine after like 1 year of production anyway lul
hater
@@ThanhTran-in7pyterrible cars
@@ThanhTran-in7pyso?
@@ThanhTran-in7pycope 🤡
@@ThanhTran-in7py 🤡🤡🤡 who doesn't hate trash?
I CANNOT COMPREHEND why a new company would offer such an expensive car.
To get headlines.. to get on the map
That no lane switch thing is really dangerous, it could detect a diagonal line in the road at a corner and steer you off the road
Yeah, that scares me. I've had to swerve into other lanes to avoid animals and apparently I was wrong to do that and I'm sorry.
In Minnesota I've seen lane assist try to kill people when it can't tell whats stripes ot snow or not
@@cheesecurd100sI took the mirror of my friends bmw or the car did. I was riding the yellow line due to parked cars swerved over to miss a car parked to far out and sent me right back into it
This is the basic feature of the car already. If you intentionally change lanes, you will still be allowed to change lanes. sometimes you neglect the lane keeping feature which can startle you. You can turn it off on vinfast.
I think the biggest problem here is an unknown company trying to sell a car at 50k.
The problem is they criticize the car unresonably, like constantly jumping on the paddle, which shows how fabricated they are, not the brand of the car
@@Goonercry why would someone make up criticism for no apparent reason? Car makers that has been in the car industry for decades can't even get it right at times. What makes you think a relatively new to car industry with not much research and development gets it right away? Even Chinese car brands now put in millions of miles into researching engine and gearbox, road conditions for their cars.
@@Goonercry are u a Việt Cộng
@@Goonercry that correct what I saw too... they try to show something else! Bias review
@@duyvu1539 are you 3////?
I remembered similar complaints when Japanese cars were first introduced in America in the 70s, yet consumers were willing to buy because they were much cheaper and affordable. For me to gamble on a car from an known company, it has to be a lot cheaper, like $20K.
well the vf8 has an MSRP of 46,000, mind you I had to actually DIG through the website to find it. They advertise cars by the monthly payment which is already disgusting. The volume model of the VF8 is 51,800 msrp. Their next model is the VF9 which is a 3 row big suv that will start at 89,000. Total sham of a company
If the owner of this channel is in Vietnam they will be sued by Vinfast and may go to jail 😂😂😂
There were zero comparative complaints about Japanese cars in the 70s.
Japanese cars (at least toyota) never had "growing pains" of this magnitude, and this is before factoring in price then & now
@@user-rs1fo2dd9b And Toyota already said EVs are a big mistake
how to start? Electrics don't typically have key or start button. push the brake is a good start.
I was in vietnam earlier this year and saw a vinfast there and was mostly fascinated. I knew it'd have problems, but its neat to see something being tried by another country. Also, its probably largely because buying a car in vietnam is absolutely insane because of import taxes. your standard camry or civic can run almost 70k usd.
It's the same everywhere in South East Asia. Domestic car brands get all the love from the government so that they will avoid competing with cheaper foreign car brands so they put insane import tax/tariffs so only the rich could buy them and the average consumer will have to resort buying local car brands
@@aerithofmyoreI disagree there. It’s actually quite the opposite. Import tax are for cars that is not available by the manufacturer. Reason that is its to push the manufacturer to also make the cars that is not available to be produced in the country. Not only the country get more access but more income from manufacturing and workers to be able to benefit from it aswell. Basically trade deal that benefits both. But since these cars manufacture is not doing it then they have to be tax.
I’m VNmese bro and yeah the tax on imported car are ridiculously high, specially supercar, a huracan lp580 in Viet Nam prices around 700k
The import taxes is the reason why this exists.
high vehicle import tax is government ways of stealing money from rich people
Those safety equipment issues just make me appreciate my focus rs so much more. A modern car and has no stupid stuff to tell me how to drive or try and drive for me
Smart cars for dumb people
Dumb comment. Ever seen those videos of car crash compilations? 80% of all of those accidents, hell 80% of all traffic fatalities/injuries/crashes would NOT happen if the majority of cars on the road were equipped with good driver's aids.
@@cenciende9401 Dumb comment. 80% of them wouldn't have happened if people were better drivers or took defensive driving courses. You can't rely on the car to save itself and you. My car is a driver's car, you wouldn't understand clearly.
@@FaeraOthronus I see what you're saying but when there are 80 plus year old drivers still driving who have terrible motor skills I'm glad technologies like automatic emergency braking exists. Unfortunately not everyone in the world is going to be a competent driver and these kinds of newer safety aids can really help prevent somebody who can actually drive from getting hit by somebody who can't.
@@FaeraOthronus Absolutely nailed it. I love my 1990 Volvo 240 Wagon for the very reason it lacks all of the modern tech everyone has gotten to used. I want a car like that so I can not get distracted or annoyed by it being akin to a overbearing, paranoid parent being a backseat driver and critic, and so I can ensure I'm always keeping 100% attention to everything all the time while driving. Its akin to airliners now days - everyone is trained and so used to using the autopilot features, that most modern crashes are caused by a lack of experience and confidence in knowing their planes when they need to take over from it. Or people being utterly clueless navigational because all they know is GPS.
I really miss when donut had the shows, like wheelhouse, money pit, and James, giving us an up to speed story on his dad.
I agree
I agree
Agreed, to much focus is put on the "Real-mechanic channel" where they just other people content for thier own content. I want a return to the old new show everyday format.
@@SrHurtadoSuit guys? when did this happen. Can I get an up to speed about it
James dad is Scotty Kilmer?
Before test : Vinfast
After test : VinFUCK !!!
About the pedal, they called it as a safety feature to avoid unwanted actions. So the pedal's "lag" is a feature
Dumb.
That is one of the most patently absurd things I have heard in a while. From my extensive experience with embedded sensing design, I am almost certain that what happened is this: They (correctly) assumed that the sensor could suffer two distinct failure modes (open circuit and short circuit). short circuit would indicate full power and open would indicate 0 power. Additionally, the sensor might have a single faulty reading due to electrical noise in the vehicles power distribution, probably owing to undersized power distribution cabling, and not enough capacitance (both are common faults of cost cutting efforts). So to avoid this problem, they put a software lag to prevent spurious readings from causing unwanted acceleration.
This "solution" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of safety best practices, and was clearly implemented by some individual or group with zero practical safety critical sensor experience. Every other drive by wire sensor system is designed so that electrically they only use a smaller range of the sensors output (typically 20% to 80%). This approach allows the computer to detect every electrical fault because electrical faults will always register outside of the 20-80 percent range. Someone stomping on the accelerator will only result in a reading of 80%, however, and the computer can distinguish between such an input and a fault condition. In short, this engineering failure is extremely worrying and is an indicator of inexperienced / unqualified engineers designing and implementing safety critical systems. This is a huge red flag. DO NOT DRIVE this vehicle; it is very likely to have other dangerous safety critical faults.
Gotta love cats that react unpredictably as a “safety feature”. Nothing better than not knowing what the hell the thing will decide to do on the road
But if the car doesn't accelerate in the moment you want it to, it acts in unwanted ways ALL the time. Can you imagine pre-throttling just to overtake another car? Horrible. I hope you can turn it off.
@@ericschumann4213
Hopefully they didn't put a safety delay on the brakes, to keep them from wearing out too fast.
I used to live in Hanoi, Vietnam. Lots of Vietnamese people have VinFasts. There was a running joke among my Vietnamese friends that had them that you could only drive them in Hanoi because if you dared to take them to the countryside, you'd never make it back to Hanoi.
You must be mistaken for another brand car. And Vinfast in Vietnam has a charging system all over the country, you can go anywhere
@@mrhuong3588It sounds like the comments were about poor reliability, not the lack of charging stations.
@@Sashazur If you read the comments again, you'll see that they say there's no charging station. This is not true because every 30km in Vietnam there is a fast to super fast charging station of Vinfast cars. They have invested nearly 1 billion dollars for charging stations throughout Vietnam.
I have never heard of any joke like that. It is your BS.
@@mrhuong3588 eerrrr. wrong. read again
People in Vietnam are scared to write bad reviews for Vinfast's cars because of the evil billionaire behind the company. Thanks for your honest review
FINALLY!! my ex used to work for them - the blackmail and corruption is fucking horrible. We were forced to sell her motorbike to buy a vinfast scooter (she was a vinschool teacher) because the automotive side was failling. They threatened to fire her, take away pay, bonuses, they would lock her out of the gated community until she bought one.... we tried to fight it so hard
Vin Group like mafiosi!! Ugly vin group
Didn't knew it was that bad!
They"ll call police.😅😅
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Dear my American friends, there is a "Vietnamese" community in the US is spreading a lot of hate and political propaganda, trying to stop Vinfast from advancing. They belonged to a defeated puppet regime in the past and have been very salty about their own losses that everything seems like a "development" coming from Vietnam will become their target. Don't be lead by them, trust your own experience!
That start up was pathetic. I have an EV and that's exactly what I expected the start up to be. Get in, put on your seatbelt, brake and drive. I'm pretty sure it would have taken most EV drivers around 15 seconds to figure it out.
Yeah what are they complaining about? It's the same as starting a Tesla
Best part was tracking how the whiteboard items kept changing, and the random order in which they were filled. 4:44 Sunroof is next. 4:46 Sunroof is gone, Driver Aids have already failed 5:32 Sunroof is back, chimes are un-bad, no driver aids. 6:09 Chimes and aids are bad again, no sunroof.
Didn't want to remove the cameras stuck to the sunroof
The camera in the centre of the dash is more zoomed in so you can’t see the sun roof closer to the front…
Do you expect them to go on and off and on and off on the 405 to test them in exact sequence that would take bout a week on light traffic
VinF..k are Chinese cars, assembled in VN. Low quantity, high price, unreliable, but Vinf..k has the largest vc paid commentators on the web. Did you know vinf..k called cops and took a customer to court for complaining about faults on his new car (Lux 2.0) that vinf..k couldn't fix ??? That's how vc operates....😂😂😂 Thanks for the hand-on, straight review guys!!!
Nice bro ! Hay lắm
Sao bạn biết
@@khangNguyen-qg3nm Thời đại 4.0 dzồi, sao lại không? "Diệt nôm" đã làm được chiếc xe máy ra hồn chưa mà đòi làm xe hơi ??? Chẳng qua ráp đồ tàu thôi ai mà o biết?
Hàng nào lắp ráp ở Việt Nam sẽ có vấn đề, đừng đổ lỗi cho người khác nhé! Đây là tất cả những vấn đề ở đất nước của bạn.
Honestly between their promise to patch all the software issues out and the "Special After Sales Policy" it sounds like they really do care, even its a bit embaressing to need to do all that in the first place.
Most judge on your recovery after you fumble. So hopefully they get it done and show they care. I really do believe this company can go far if they keep it up
It’s communist bribery. They will get bodied if they actually stand up to the third point which they won’t because of the supply and tech shortages.
It's hard to give them a chance after they basically bullied reviewers and journalist into giving them positive reviews before the car shipped to the US. Did you read about their borderline mafia tactics during their initial showing in Vietnam, too? Following journalist around, not letting them do anything the company didn't allow, nor were they allowed to actually drive the car they went there to review. Don't get me started on all the shills they pay to troll comment sections on automotive websites and start arguments with people who dislike the car. They deserve to fail.
If they cared at all they wouldn't have rushed the release of this thing. Not only does that show a lack of the respect to the customers, but it's also potentially dangerous! Frankly, I hope they fail. If we start tolerating this kind of reckless nonsense with cars (things that we literally trust with our lives) then other car companies will follow suit. Soon, we'll have day one patches for buggy EVs like they're a bloody video game! If they had just made a safe, reliable, good car instead of trying to make a quick buck, they'd probably be doing fine!
The "After Sales Policy" is just an attempt to avoid a class-action lawsuit.
Cars aren’t video games, these safety system issues should cause a vehicle recall. Not just patch notes and updates
To be fair, the issue @11:43 that happened to Tom Peng describes exactly what happened to me too not once, but twice, in my 2021 Audi e-tron lease.
I get a bit tired or hearing about German cars being "so awesome". Owning one convinced me not to own another. I'm not alone.
@@arcanondrum6543 yup. German cars and German “engineering” are complete hype. Over engineered crap. And when it breaks, Germans will blame you for lack of maintenance. Meanwhile a Corolla drives forever with just oil changes.
@@Immigrantlovesamerica true german cars are associated more with prestige rather than performance and durability. In my country rich people who own german cars use them for social media hype and to blend in with other people.
@@rampagingronin German brands are absolutely marketed as performance brands. Take Lexus or Acura. They're just as luxurious and yet they last 10x longer.
@@Immigrantlovesamerica agreed 👍.
Remember in the olden days when a company would ruin their reputation and be suited for false advertising when they released a broken product on the market and not get multiple years of grace to fix/patch the problems?
Those were the days.
Remember when companies used to do long-term testing, instead of using the general public?
Gee that old LaSalle ran great, those were the days.
Corporations own the politicians, so the laws to protect consumers have been cancelled.
Seems a $30k car at best.
And that's with a working blind spot/ accelerator pedal and steering that let's you change lanes without having to indicate(like swerving to avoid a head on crash)
I wouldn't pay $30k for it either
20k at best , 15k sounds about right
@@deairreoh but make sure you have parts and service in the future, I doubt it
This is one of the best car channels on TH-cam. Thanks for all the honesty and humor. I also like the positive attitude you have and the criticisms you do are legitimate.✌️
I went to the auto show in LA and on the way in was approach by a woman asking if I'd like to tro sign up to preview a vinfast. I didn't even know she was talking about cars. With a name like that, I honestly thought it was some kind car title or buying service. Wasn't until I saw their booth inside that I realized she had been asking if I wanted to take a riding tour in a car...
I live in the mountains of Vietnam. I see dozens of Vinfast cars every day. All new. Most are, stylistically, cheap looking copies of other top selling brands. And yes, they are more expensive than better cars here too. I recently bought a new Kia Sonet, and couldn't be happier with it. It gets 730km to a tank, and gas is cheap here, and the detail and features in it are incredible for $30k. I didn't even consider Vinfast because of base-price alone.
You made the smart choice
@@sc705i appreciate those.
You made a good choice in your life, not like the other “trẻ trâu” who don’t know anything in reality, but always “VN tự hào quá VN ơi”
@@AI_MIT_71 Dude, that's more of a mockery of Vietnam than of pride
@@vinhvu5986 Yes, it’s a mockery for those “trẻ trâu” who never step the foot out of the village bamboo ramparts.
Here in Vietnam, seeders praise this car with words like "Top-notch" or "Peak product". And what pisses me of the most is the fact that there are so many of these MFs around, doing the work for free. They even attach loving Vinfast to patriotism: If you don't love Vinfast Unconditionally, you're a fucking treason! I get it a new product/brand will need to learn a lot to improve. But the key to that lies the user/supporter community, which Vinfast doesn't have. So when Vietnamese recognize the harsh truth that making a car does not get them to the top of the world, and there are a lot more to be done, Vinfast may have a chance. Until then, it's just a waste of everyone's time and money.
I feel you bro. My 12th grade military study teacher keep praising on the brand, I literally out laugh the Joker since it was an online class so nobody would know I'm laughing at him.
Tens of thousands of VinFast EVs including VinFast electric motorbikes, e34, VF8, VF9, and VinBus known as VinFast fully electric public buses carrying 50-60 passengers at a time, have been manufactured and currently on the road safely in Vietnam since 2018, when the first electric motorbike - Klara was introduced. Most importantly, hundreds of units of VinBus-electric public buses have been providing service between the cities, every day from morning to night - from 5:00 to 21:00, 7 days a week transporting about 300,000 passengers daily in Vietnam since December 2022, and so far, not a single unit of VinBus catching fire or exploding or losing control resulting in any death, has been reported! In addition, thousands of units of Vinfast e34 as electric public Taxi cabs have been on the road in Vietnam since 4/2023, and there has been no problem so far. Similarly, thousands of units of VinFast e34 (a smaller version of VF8) and VF8 have been delivered to customers since 10/15/2021, and 9/2022, respectively. All the Vinfast EVs are currently on the road safely without any accidents of catching fire, exploding or losing control in Vietnam since then. This clearly explained the quality and safety standards of Vinfast EVs.
@@lightofwisdom17 lmao bro. In my college people would be like: “Eww, isn’t that the rip-off version of my 5 series?”. And I can totally understand where that comes from. Great vehicles for the price, but they aren’t in control of the technology.
Thế được lái thử xe chưa 😂
@@gaolutsoctrang4507 Oh many VF owners prepared their own fire-proof suicide note in case there is smt happen to them. All "intentional" accidents are reported by that one-state dictatorship propaganda media while all the independent reporters get sued by VF immediately for spreading "false information" if they speak up about anything negative about the shitty cars.
Who gonna believe in that dictatorship statistics, only you man. Nobody in America knowing about freedom of press believe in your sh*tty numbers.
I'm Vietnamese and I laughed at all of my friends when they asked if I was going to lease this vehicle. Growing up I was always told to never question what meat was in the food, why is there always a loose hair in the food. We also never bought anything Made in Vietnam except for their food (ironic right?). Their response is the typical "What you want, what you want? I give you $5 go away" mentality.
No one cares or values you higher when you mock your own origins. Just remain inferior
@@MrBuihongmanh bruh he's not mocking his origins so much as airing out general grievances every Vietnamese have had. Keep pretending the problem isn't there and wonder why our country still considered poorer than others in Asia.
Vietnamese but living in Cali for sure🙄
Great video. I live in Việt Nam and with a 200% import tax on foreign cars coupled with the pride of having a Vietnamese produced car, they completely dominate the EV market here. Plus VinGroup are a massive conglomerate here too.
Sorry to her that you have to drive daily this.
Have you ever owned a car? Do you think Vietnamese consumers are stupid? Vinfast is the only electric car company that provides a wide system of telecommunications stations throughout Vietnam. Foreign car companies do not have a charging station system in Vietnam. Would you buy an electric car that you can only take home to charge?
@@AK.__he never bought this car. He just have been hearing about it, like you :D
@@nguyenhieu1687 Valid point. But in such case better to buy some ICE car rather then this EV.
@@nevco8774and they actually sold one?
The car industry is legit like the video game industry; dlcs, micro transactions, every company thinks they can charge premium prices, and now unfinished products
They're trying to move to "subscribe monthly to enable x feature" model, which will fail spectacularly. Either people will buy older used cars, or jailbreak the new ones.
Toyota must be the best game, then; most of their cars are super reliable & inexpensive whilst also being fun-ish to drive.
I did say *most,* though.
You know even with all this cars problems it’s kinda nice to see a company offering cash and trying to fix the problems instead of just selling you the lemon and moving on, like most American car companies
Nice try communist scam car
finally someome with brain.
I do give them credit for at least trying to fix these mistakes.
that's just not true. If that happened to you, you may have an unethical person at a specific dealer, but as a whole that just is not true. I have owned multiple dodge and ford vehicles over the last 20 years, and have never once had a problem with having something about the car that was "lemony" (if that makes sense) replaced. The main unethical thing about American car dealers I don't like is the fact that they all try to upsell you with features and extras you don't want or need, but lets face it, that is rampant in just about every industry or segment in America. But any problems, multiple dealers I have dealt with have always taken care of whatever problems that have arisen
In fact, most times I've had a problem with something that should not have happened, the dealer has gone out of their way to do extra - last American car I had was a Challenger. One day it wouldn't start (when the car was still pretty new, and there was no way it could have been the battery or ignition going out). The dealer brought a tow truck out, took my car in, diagnosed what the problem was and fixed it (some kind of relay or something was defective), and for free did like a full all points inspection while it was in there for free. When it was done, as I live alone, they sent a car to pick me up and get me to the dealer so I could drive her home. With things they replaced that they didn't need to yet (filters, belts, etc), the main repair, and labor, I had well over $1000 worth of service done for free.
So if they give you Cash to fix the issues but later you keep encountering the same problems after purchasing the car, who would be responsible? You? What if you kill someone? What if you are hospitalized and the total cost exceeding the price of car, who would be responsible? 😒?
I loved how the poor cameraman on the seats behind had to use his hardware to stand the checklist on a board.
voting for another vinfast video to see how they progress and if they can fix their bugs and issues. they are a new company so it will be interesting to see how they work through their problems
Yep, they deserve another chance.
Yeah, you can't really fault growing pains, "throwing money at problems" in this instance is more or less just the cost of being a start up, especially a car manufacturing start up.
In Vietnam the roads are full of motorscooters, so the paranoid bleepers and acceleration delay might make more sense in it's natural environment. Granted, it was a big oversight for export models, but you could do a Vietnam episode, and also check out some popular bikes here, the traffic in Saigon is pretty crazy.
I guess the starting procedure is to combat drunk driving too 😅
@@cheeselouise Nope, all the seatbelt fasten thing is for safety.
it could be more confusing for first-timers than others (I don't really know since I've only tested the only EV of VF), but from the 2nd time onwards, it's no more complicated than an automatic car for me.
Yeah but they planned to sell in the US from the start.
If the car is put in Sport mode, it is expected some sort of sensitive acceleration. If navigate through crazy traffic, then lazy accelerator in comfort/eco mode is more appropriate. And, the beepers don't help in crazy traffic since you are surround by motorcycles. All you can do is navigate slowly through them.
If you drove this thing in Vietnam with their road conditions, there would be no ending with the chimes.
This is why you don't rush out a product. Entertaining video and kinda makes me want to do a test drive!
PLEASE do. I did, and I quite liked it, and saw NONE of the issues above. 🤔
Well said. First year models can be great or stink.
Bring some Dramamine just in case, motion sickness is really icky 🤢🤢
True, but if they don't rush, and take too long time from the design to consumers their product will be obsolete when it comes out on the market, New car manufacturers have close to 0 chances to compete with the big players nowadays.
They are communist scam. They buy parts from China and assemble them in US to scam tax, credit and stocks. In Vietnam, they have police intimidate any customers who gave bad reviews framing them as anti government.
I love how they put the Amazon 1 star thing
like it’s sold on Amazon
I can’t imagine trying to perform an evasive maneuver and being forced into a crash because I didn’t turn my blinker on in the panic to not get creamed!
I dont know how strong the steering motor is on this particular car, I drove a skoda once with lane assist and the steering wheel was just softly suggesting to stay in the lane. I could easily overpower it and go where I wanted to.
it's not that hard, these guys exaggerated, and also, you can turn off all the assist
I drove a rental with this feature. Unless it’s totally broken on this model, it doesn’t prevent you from turning without a blinker, it just pushes back slightly. You can easily overpower it. In an emergency you probably wouldn’t even notice it.
@@Goonercry
Why would I buy a car with driving aid if I need to turn it off to not get killed? tf
Yeah review it again. I'd watch it, for sure. I'd love to see how the company comes back and fixes mistakes.
Looks like most of issues are software related. As a SW engineer, I would say, if they force too hard to deliver an incomplete package, to be sure it will fail fast.
In about 2-5 years when mechanics have to start fixing them, that's when we'll see what actually is wrong with them.
@@mrfreeman1763this exactly.
You can’t tell what’s really wrong until it’s been out for a while
This is likely what happen when they don't set the priority of the design correctly. I'm a firmware guy and I can tell you these lags are likely putting too much real time stuff into non real time, having single core doing works requiring multi cores, and not having the architecture set correctly. It would take someone with experience to do that right and they probably didn't hire the right people to start the architecture.
As you said the car was released to early without being tested accordingly. VF reminds me how Hyundai introduced itself to the US market back on the 80’s with so much issues as the years went bye , Hyundai is refined and have good cars that compete with other cars within its car type category. Impressive N models , SUVs and EV/Hybrid cars.
VF seems to rely on tech developed by other EV companies, using that to push their product in the market, I hope it’ll not be a Frisker Karma like flop.
Also for $50K I ain’t gonna buy one, I am gonna buy a petrol/gas powered vehicle and use it till their be no gas in the earth.
I will always pick a combustion engine over a EV.. I want to hear the engine and be the one to decide when and where I can buy my own gas, without worrying how far the car will take me… I almost forgot I do like cars that are fuel operated with actual shifting transmission automatic or manual.
All that cVt transmission crap is a huge NO for me.. I want a car that’s a car not one that operates like a snowmobile or EV…
6:13 imagine if you are trying to avoid a rear end from stopped traffic?
The car won’t let you change lanes in an emergency, you have to remember to signal in an emergency!
I hope they fix their issues and can make tangible improvements because I like the styling and definitely support a new brand building cars in the US.
they actually seem to have a solid start for being founded in 2017
It's going to be hard to compete here in the USA. The market is very strong. Tesla, Chevrolet, and others
@@DavidGarcia-re9qh LOL Chevrolet
They are communist scam. They buy parts from China and assemble them in US to scam tax, credit and stocks. In Vietnam, they have police intimidate any customers who gave bad reviews framing them as anti government.
Ironically the design is the one thing Vinfast did not do themselves but outsourced to Pininfarina.
As someone who drives a lot (compared to most), having a car that lags on the gas and fights your steering……i feel it would’ve killed me by now.
The steering is not a new thing. In a Tesla, it will also not let you change lanes without a blinker (unless you turn that off in the setting), but if you yank the wheel hard enough, it will still change the lane, for both the Tesla and the Vinfast.
Good Lord I fkn died at James "This is the worst car to escape a murder in", "How do you start it?!" Sound effects and all, this is why I love ya'll.
Worst car if you're running away from an axe murderer
12:50 Preach it. This is my biggest issue with EVs, on top of being insanely expensive. Fixing things that aren't broken and re-inventing the wheel. Tesla being the biggest offender.
You haven't driven a Tesla. There's a lot of things that are different, but for a reason. If you cant handle any change, then I guess stick to legacy manufacturers.
EVs are cheaper long term when taking into consideration cost of ownership
@@ncvwrx2759 No and I never will. Sure, there might as well be a reason. Not a good one. The problem is, all manufacturers seem to be moving to electric only and while the biggest offender, Tesla isn't the only one that's replacing simple to use mechanical switches and buttons with stupid screens.
@@trstnhn If you're buying a new car, sure, probably.
The bizarre thing in the EV space is if the components are less and maximum amount of budget goes for Batteries and Software then how come these things aren't cheap from the Legacy Manufacturing ICE vehicles like shouldn't this be the main question after their claim of this EV being clean energy,
On the Tesla front shouldn't they be selling a Good Quality cheap cars in US instead of Some Uber expensive Sports car beating Sedan,
like they did it for Publicity but take the case of Dodge were they known just for their Challenger and Charger they have their space but their are also other cars which catered to other economic class also,
So for better EV adoption shouldn't they just lower the prices or make some Cheaper Fun to Drive car to cater to everyone instead catering to those people who are in Higher range of category who can afford Super Car beater Sedan and their shit services like really afford some tantrum services, where the company has their tantrums and their customer base behave like some sort of person in abusive relation,
This is the thing which isn't understandable that these so called EV manufacturers claim making EV cheap but then again, they price it near or in some cases higher from the ICE vehicles and then make ads to fool people into adopting into some expensive EV cars which then comes out as half baked and Make consumers the Lab Rats or rather BETA Testers of their own hard earned money, like isn't this just a simple mockery of the people who pour their hard earned money into these so called BETA projects and get screwed,
Day 378 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
378 days wasted
@@randysgut3214he could get there
@@randysgut3214maybe some day. You never know
Up to speed is discontinued.
No more
It took me 5 minutes to figure out how to start my new car coming from a vehicle that was 23 years old.
hi, a vietnamese here. This is the first time i have ever heard of insight about this car although im local to this model (since vinfast control the media quite aggressively). So, i have several surprises after watching this
-The car is actually cheaper than in Vietnam (same msrp, but Vietnam has like 15k worth of voucher to make it up). To put into perspective, old model crv cost 50k and performance car cost x3
-its actually less bugs than i expected. i have read on forum about a man got his battery died twice, one time on highway at night, without any road lights, with tons of issues like couldnt turn the signal on. But yeah, mostly battery issue.
About softwere, my mom who has some of her friends work at vinfast said they are trying to not rely on existing patent to cut down cost (by making their own technology). And apparently, they can fix bugs that fast bcs there are tons of vf8 running as taxi (and also users' complaints)
About that sensitive sensor, I think its because of the traffic in Vietnam. Basically its like a junior version of India, a bit safer but fkin insane
In the end, dont buy this car. It is indeed unfinished product and even with vietnamese like me, its not very wise to buy this. Unless, you are given the voucher, living in Vin facility and wants to buy an electric car in Vietnam
Yes, we all know that you are Vietnamese. There are two kinds of Vietnamese. The proud Vietnamese and the American's dog Vietnamese. 🎉. U just win a prize. Here is your treat. Good dog.
@@kenjile24 bro, i literally applause them for being less buggy, sell cars cheaper than most of their competitors and đefen them about the sensor and stuff. The vf8 is literally bad but if they can improve it in the new vf7, i would buy it fr
No in vietnam they lease battery instead of selling cars, so it seems cheaper but in reality it is not!
The No Man's Sky comparison is, I think, very apt. They will likely iron out all these issues and might just as well add interesting features at some point to make it a worthy competitor. Looks like they, at the very least, are not just taking the L and are strapping in for a slew of fixes. I can respect that.
you can do that with a video game, not with a giant metal death machine
@@charlot6590
Why not? Tesla sacrificed the lives of dozens if not hundreds of Americans in their stupid quest to do it all by themselves. And even today it doesn't work. Last week I nearly had an accident because an idiot was illegally using the broken Autopilot system and it interpreted slowly upcoming traffic jam as a queu to start instant panic-braking to maintain the full distance to the car in front.
A normal driver would slowly reduce the gap as the speed slows and that way the space between cars is the buffer.
And because Tesla's dumb system acts like that, effectively you have no space to stop and are guaranteed to have accidents. I barely missed the dumb idiot and the Tesla driver gave me the dumbest cow-eyed look when I honked like "What's wrong with keeping a 50 meter gap in a standstill and forcing you to nearly crash?" is normal for him.
I'm not saying a company injuring and killing people to get their act together is good, but once that is the precedent it becomes unfair criticism to hold others to a higher standard.
The chimes and driver assist is enough to make a person walk!
I think the chime was supposed to be designed for the Vietnamese market. In Vietnam, there are constantly small scooters driving around and very near your car while you are driving. They often keep following distances of less than 5 meters and can move very unpredictably due to their size. The chimes are probably designed to alert drivers in this situation which is very uncommon on American suburban roads
@@thienphucn1Good point, too many too often (chimes) and ppl get desensitized or just tune it out.
Might not be such a bad idea, depending on the neighborhood. Walking's one of the best exercises around. If Bernando LaPallo lived to be over 100 while walking 2 miles every day (though that's surely not the only reason why he lived to be that old,) and if walking reduces depression, I'm pretty happy about having a lot of walks.
I got pissed off when BMC fitted a female voice that repeated the same message every time the car was started. Luckily, I was only a passenger in the car and only at weekends. My brother sold the car 6 months later.
I remember my parents 1976 Subaru station wagon… I now drive a 2010 Outback, premium edition… Yea, there are flaws and weaknesses, but if a manufacturer is providing extra services, to help consumers improve their personal experience, after purchase, it means they are going to put that customer’s experience into future developments… Sounds like many of the things you’re complaining about are “not what you’re used to,” rather than “is this going to get me to and from, safely.” Roads and driving habits are different, in Vietnam. I like to point out, that you boys are big. Those cars were made by ppl a foot shorter, and 2/3 your weight. If the car was designated to carry 300 lbs, and you put 500 lbs in it, you’re gonna have issues. If you change components, to handle the extra weight, required for the American market, that will probably go away…
What I’m getting, from your story has me excited. It sounds like a company that wants to work with customers, to have an enjoyable experience with their product, and begging for feedback. That commitment to customers is what made Subaru such a great car. Hopefully they continue a path, that leads to customers being able to easily upgrade and modify their vehicles, to fit our personal needs… 🤞
What kind of junk car can only handle 300 lbs ?
Even a Honda Civic can do far more.
@@DeadNoob451 I used to race snowmobiles. I was 5’9”, 160... My buddy was 6’6”, 320lbs… We had nearly identical sleds, but we had the adjustments COMPLETELY different.
“Passenger weight” becomes much more of a concern, when the weight of the vehicle is more. That car is more made for “in town driving”…
What I’m hoping for, is they are working on making that more adjustable, keeping the customers in mind… People will always want to change, and personalize things. If they provide a good base to start with…
Yes please review it again once they have some time to fix issues. I didn't know this brand existed before now, and I am interested to watch the journey of them either making it or breaking it. More!
To be fair, a lot of blind spot monitors don’t start working until you reach a certain speed. Also Lane Keep in most cars will pull the vehicle back into the lane if you’re just lightly changing lanes without a blinker. There’s usually settings to change the sensitivity of the system or it’ll stop when it realizes you’re pushing through it.
Yes but it won't just straight up overpower your input. They fight a bit and make a noise, but will let you change a lane.
Yes! Gotta do a follow up video! I love terrible cars and am 100% here for this
Who would pay $50K for a piece of junk like that? I would rather take out a student loan 😅
I am so grateful for this car. The material it provides for this and hopefully future hilarious videos is actually priceless. I can't wait to see what they send us next.
Cars are so good these days, it's comical to see such a thing on the market
@@sc705way too good in fact.
This car makes me to spend money hapily for my Volvo XC60 maintenance . In the future a very well maintained Volvo will worth its weight in gold.
Vf8 very bad.
Would have been nice to hear the actual owner's opinion after living with it for a while. I thought for sure we were gonna get a 30 second fast take when they mentioned her.
It's too embarrassing for her to show her face to the world owning such a deplorable car
You don't, because Vinfast technically don't sell any VF8 in the US now. They only have a rental program to let people rent it out. If you see any VF8 on the road, it is either a manufactured tag VF8 or VF8 cars have been given to TH-camrs in return for their opinions. I think those TH-camrs do get paid though.
Oh yeah, there are TH-camrs from Vietnam. They purchased VF8 and they tell you exactly their experience, but you have to understand Vietnamese hahaha.
@@AlanNguyen-bj8gkVinFast 8 in California even costed $124.000.
@@purwantiallan5089 $124,000? Dang! Where did you get this number? people who purchased VF8 cars In Cali?
The shudder in reverse would likely show on an incline, where the auto parking brake feature is engaged. Reversing up a slight incline from park, would do it.
I'm from Canada and I drove one at the CNE (Canadian national exhibition) and I was impressed by its acceleration in sport mode, I thought it was a good looking car as well.
vinfast just started producing electric cars 1-2 years ago. I'm not too surprised to see many bugs but as a Vietnamese I'm glad you like it
I really liked this review. The only part I dislike about electric car reviews that happened in this video specifically is when a manufacturer says they'll fix things with a software update. Comparing this car to early video game releases seems problematic in that vein. A video game has zero chances of harming me or people around me, a video game is also entirely made of software. This car is not made entirely of software, it's made of many hundreds if not thousands of individual components and no manufacturer should ever get to slide on faults with "we'll fix it with a software update". Much like the Chevy Bolt battery, they attempted to fix it with "software" and failed because the failure was entirely physical, waiting for the real fix to come (in the form of a recall of the part) people lost cars and had homes catch on fire. The lack of acceleration, the faulty driver assist, could all be down to using faulty or inferior hardware but are brushed away as software by the manufacturer. Even the lack of a stop/start button might seem trivial but it seems like a cost cutting measure more than a convenience thing. It's also not intuitive as you've shown in the video, in a world where people confuse the gas peddal and brake peddal and harm people because of that, having a clear and visible start/stop button is just sensible.
There's no point in owning a self driving car - it's more efficient to rent one or use ride shares like Waymo or Cruise.
@@SSGoatanksya bro rent forever and just throw away money. Don’t spend money on an asset or your own vehicle where you have autonomy and privacy. Just take an autonomous ride hail service bro
Like I cannot believe this isn’t satire and someone really feels this way.
@@MrGoodeats You're still throwing money away with Insurance, Gas, DMV Renewals, and Maintenance. Can't believe you're letting greedy car companies brainwash you into owning a car when there are more affordable options 🚄🚋🚐🚇🚴
that is 100% bullshit, unless you only use a car for 20 miles a week, owning is cheaper, and by a massive margin too, and 10 times more convenient
@@SSGoatanks is this satire? 1) in Texas where I live there are no alternative options 2) I’m not a broke loser so paying for the convenience of having my own ability and the FREEDOM to move on my own schedule I don’t care how much it costs. I would much rather drive my comfortable Tesla than sit in the bus with a bunch of literal peons. That is disgusting.
When I went to the Toronto International Autoshow, the VinFast VF8 literally shut down whilst I was inside of it.
Then it began rebooting.
Is it running Windows ME 😂
@@FWDSUXARSE 🤣
I'm not sure if y'all mentioned this, but if you cannot change lanes without a blinker, that is a severe hazard. If there is something in front of you and you need to swerve out of the way, it may not let you and that could cause crashes
So...starting the car shouldn't have been a mystery to them if they've ever been in a Tesla. You get in and just drive. There's no "start" button. The car recognizes you using the key fob and/or a phone app and it only operates for that person.
Love how software updates will add parts to the car.
its like downloading more ram and faster gpu for the xbx its amazing
Right! How is a software update going improve a garbage suspension? A terrible ride on a $50000 modern car is utterly ludicrous.
Car companies are going to start rushing out buggy vehicles and patching them into usability like video games.
@@tonyedgett4243
That it won't, but there are some real issues. BYD in Europe disables the dashcam because Germany has extreme crybaby privacy laws where it is a literaly criminal offense to use a dashcam under most circumstances.
So put in a different software version and voila: 360 degree dashcam at no extra cost.
@@tonyedgett4243 Software can be fixed online. Hardware can be fixed through recall/part replacement or they leave it like that for the first owner, while silently fixing it for the later owners.
follow-up yes please. I would love to see progress, and also a new manufacturer enter the market on principle, so I absolutely think they deserve a chance to figure their sh*t out and try to redeem themselves
The chimes are pretty easy to explained. The traffic here in Vietnam is… not good, so the manufacture decided to put a bunch of sensitive sensors to make the driver stay on guard. Vietnamese people on roads usually are pretty wreck less. On the roads is like filling the blank space or take chances to go through every possible gaps. Feel kinda bad for American people to use the same software as us.
i believe this features can be turned off.
12 years ago. Since 12 years ago, Tesla had cars where you get in, your fob is in your pocket, you put foot on brake, it starts and you drive.
Where are these people from that for over a decade this is a surprise?