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Fabius Bile, originally just Fabius and also known as the Spider and the Primogenitor is a Chaos Space Marine. Prior to the defeat of the Horus Heresy, he was a Lieutenant-Commander and Chief Apothecary of the Emperor's Children. He is now an infamous mad scientist, specializing in genetic manipulation and the creation of Enhanced Warriors. Unlike most of the Emperor's Children, Bile does not follow Slaanesh, instead he devotes himself to science, and research into the creation of Space Marines. - บันเทิง
“Win or lose, the gods feast on our deeds. A man pets a stray, and his small pleasure in the act of kindness feeds Slaanesh. A woman strikes her crying child and that awful moment of elation she feels feeds Khorne. A Munitorum drone considers suicide. Nurgle grows fat on his despair. A merciful strategist devises a plan for bloodless victory, and Tzeentch is content. The Word Bearers think the gods crave worship. But the gods care for nothing save filling their bellies with our sorrows. Intentionally or not, we are all meat for the beast. Even you.”
Who said that?
@@jimkass7641 Narvo Quin I think, haven’t read Man Flayer in a while
@@moppelgames2107 thank you
"I'm doing my part, too!"
Yet for some reason nobody in the 40k universe seems to even consider to change their dietary focus somewhat. If they eat and reflect our sorrow why create such unreasonable amounts?
Listening to Fabius and Cawl talking to each other is one of the most surreal yet oddly humorous things you could hear in the 40k setting
So Cawl, Fabius, and trazyn all go into a bar
@@breakdown3317 and Orikan says: come again? So Cawl, Fabius and trazyn all go into a bar
Two of the most interesting characters in the setting imo. Both highly influential in the setting but not in the "leading massive armies into battle all the time" usual kind of way. The Great Work was awesome. I loved to glimpses in to Cawl's past.
2 Shadow Geniuses together)). Potential bromance moment?
@@user-pm3wk6lw6mthis... this right here, best 40k joke ive ever heard hands down. I dont have a medal for you but take my gratitude
Let's remember everyone: Fabius' Atheism is so strong that demons are weakened in his presence.
So much Reddit energy
It's the opposite; Everyone else's superstition literally feeds the Daemons and buffs them.
What earning reddit gold on r/atheism does to a man's chakra is between hell and the void.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the character rather significantly it's less atheism and more "why are you idiots worshiping the concept of gravity? This is dumb"
@@robrib2682yes. On his vision The warp IS The place/dimension where ideas create life, witch Means They are slaves of their Nature. Ex: Nurgle Cannot stop creatingNew plagues that kill people, khorne Cannot stop to Feel anger and The need to kill, Slanesh Cannot have a safe word, and tzench Cannot stop being a ashole and make Sense.
Chaos Gods manifesting in real space.
Fabious Bile: "Aurora Borealis."
"Aurora borialis, In this hive city, in this time of day, localised intierly within a cultist hideout?!"
@@TheHerrDoctor Yes!
@@collecter343 May I see it?
@@theelephantandtherider9536 Yes!
Steamed Hams but it's Fabius and Slaanesh
I imagine trazyn and fabius being like kids trading pokemon cards “ill give you my PSA 10 fulgrim if you give me your limited edition emperors children gene seed”
"Nuh Uh" Fabius Bile, chief apothecary, and general commander of the III legion, as his organs are shutting down from the strength of the ruinous power's gaze
I love the image of Slaanesh looking directly at Fabius Bile, and in response he just chants “GOD NOT REAL” and chugs every sedative known to man, and several that aren’t known
Bile would collect Skaven miniatures
He would kitbash his own skaven miniatures out of actual mice
He would experiment on rats to create his own skaven
@@MrManueldx Sounds like a good excuse to kitbash a Genestealer Cult army out of Skaven minis. "Where did they come from? Eh, Fabius Bile made them".
@@Bluecho4 look up Cheese-Stealer Cult army. It's already been done.
@@Speknoz I'm familiar with them, yes.
"Gods are cringe" - Fabius Bile
Addressing Slaanesh
"What gods?"
Nah thats a iron warrior. Fabio IS Just a Man of ciencia and drugs
- *_"I am a Keeper of Secrets, you deepest desires made manifest."_*
- _"...you're a figment of my imagination, go away."_
DK: I almost said semen.
DK, my guy, the hungry man thinks of bread
Holy fuck lol
Ayooo 📸📸📸😩
Bred lol
Shy's apparently been raiding Pixiv for Fulgrim and posting results in chat, real easy to get a man hungry if he walks past a delicious-smelling bakery :D
@@alexabaxter6658 chat? Is there a discord?
Im upset Brickford didn't expand on the Spider thing
Fabulous Williams spider arms have come to life through Warp nonsense and occasionally lay eggs. The thing that bothers Bile the most about this is he has no idea what the legs are mating with to produce eggs
He also didn’t make them able to do that. He finds it really odd but he’s not mad about which is funny.
Also those eggs hatch into smaller demonic versions of his spider arms that scuttle around strip the flesh off of things.
Another layer to all that is that Bile's ship is probably the only place that's really viable to happen. Bile's personal ship is a very old model that'd probably be considered a bit of a clunker compared to newer ones, but all the warp exposure has slowly turned it into an actual sentient creature complete with bits a little more organic than expected. Bile also has a habit of letting his projects wander off and go free range so to speak if he's pleased enough with the results to let it live, leading to entire wings of his shuttle that he hasn't checked for literal centuries that now support colonies of Bile-things and their offspring constantly exposed to warpstuff. So of course there's something in some corner that can mate with his animate robot arms, it's just pinning down exactly what which is the problem.
“Ok, we need to talk about this shit your doing, Bob. It getting out of hand.”
-Lucius the Eternal
When Lucius is being the sane and rational one, a line has been crossed.
The Fabius dressing up mice in costumes bit is likely a reference to an 1800s mini terrarium from France that featured two preserved frogs in human-esque posture and garb, frozen in a dramatic pose dueling with rapiers. Just goes to show they had memes long before the internet, and Fabius would 100% be the kind of guy to note that
Bile: "All I want is to make new race of human race and future for them."
Meanwhile, the clone of Fulgrim started his own crusade in Bile's name in which Bile began to make a call to certain a Necron Overlord.
A new one
That future didn't work out so well
I cannot believe that you didn't even pause at how hard of a line "I think therefore I am, they do not therefore they are not" truly is
Not only is it just cool, but it also encapsulates WHY Fabius doesn't believe in the chaos gods - Chaos is just an amalgam of mortal emotions and aren't sapient beings in their own right, demons do not think for themselves and are just driven by the emotion they are made out of.
That's why, to Bile, magic and demons are logically explainable phenomena, because the warp is its own "universe" with its own laws (which is explicitly molded by the thoughts of mortals), and as a result, the chaos gods (and demons) are equivalent to, like, gravity and magnetism
To him, people are "corrupted by chaos" in the same way an alcoholic is corrupted by alcoholism - it's just a personality flaw (or a dedication to being angry). Which, with how chaos works, is kind of the case anyway
It is like looking at a genie in a lamp. Some people see the power they possess. Other people see the chains that restrict and limit that power. I think bike is wrong. The 40K gods may have core things they can’t stop doing, but they get a lot of latitude about how they do the rest of it.
It's like a sickness, an illness the virus isn't alive by our modern definition of life yet we know it to be a factor/force
Chaos entities are a virus on reality, a natural event like a earthquake, the earthquake will never NOT be an earthquake, it will never question it's existence, it responds only to a static set of laws
He's not wrong in this sense, but it is a matter of perspective, his whole "you literally don't exist" schtick to slaanesh is kinda silly cause it violates his objective nature as a scientist, slaanesh exists regardless of what you might classify her/he/it as
One says a god
Another the perfect being, the route to pure ecstacy
Another an abomination
Another could says slaanesh is pure hell and torment
I saw it's a basic warp predator entity made of the psychic energy of mortal minds and hearts
Bile says it's nothing but he's wrong
@@isaachaahr8691 While they may be able to think about how to do things, they cannot think beyond that thing, so Bile is still right.
It also is a throwback to the early days of WH40k where Chaos fit into the trope of not-demons-but-extraterrestial-beings-that-are-demons-by-all-purposes.
Fabius Bile.
The only Chad in 40k Chad enough to look Slaanesh in the face and go:
“Nuh-uh.”
"Nuh-uh" he says, while actively pumping his body full of stimulants to prevent his organs from failing en masse. For the entire encounter he's like fighting off a heart attack and a brain aneurysm.
Slaanesh: “TF YOU MEAN NUH-UH.”
Bile: “Nuh……Uh.”
Bile was in no way panicked when Slaanesh was judging him, the gaze of the god however put such a massive toll on his body that his armor, by itself, decided to pump him full of enhancing drug to keep him ... well ... alive. One of his heart even stops in the middle of it.
He is not scared, he is defiant.
I’ve read the book. The man was definitely scared as well as defiant. Lol
Man is literally dying there and he's going "no, fuck yiu"
Nah he's definitely afraid even if a little
Also Bile’s understanding of the gods makes total sense. They’re not only NOT capital G gods, they’re bloated, parasitic, symbiotic warp manifestations. They do offer power, they can affect the world… but they’re only empowered, if not created by mortals. They aren’t gods in the sense that they create or oversee laws of nature from their inception. That’s where it can be tricky to see a distinction, as they command vast power and influence and have “aspects” that they connect with. His view is basically the same as realising that psykers power isn’t magic in the traditional sense. It is a genetic and psychic ability to use another dimensions power and energy to influence our own. There is a science to it and thus it can be de-mystified and de-mythologised, which removes power and grandeur.
It’s not that he doesn’t believe that they exist, he recognises they are a force that exists within the universe. He just doesn’t recognise them as an innate power to the universe. They are just a collusion of energy that mirrors mortal thought and feeling and grows fatter for it.
Really makes one question, what is a god really and what would qualify as a god?
@@collecter343 Totally!
I think from a monotheistic kind of perspective it is an entity that created and then presides over and governs the laws of nature/reality/space and time.
And in polytheistic religions, gods do tend to control aspects of reality too and their absence still has consequences.
I think what makes a god a god/God is that it is intrinsically tied to laws of the universe and their removal is impossible due to needing to be in place to monitor or sustain reality.
Warp gods in WH40k in my opinion are entities that fed on aspects that already existed thanks to realspace beings going about their business. There is no evidence those aspects they are tied to wouldn't exist without their existence. Such as without Khorne suddenly we wouldn't have wars/honor etc.
@@TheTrveMothlord What a mature and nuanced take on the nature of divinity. I've always had a hard time looking at characters in fiction calling themselves god because like you said, I see god/gods as something that should be tied to creation and being inherently unknowable because it should be impossible for a person to know everything.
Most 'god' characters in fiction are just powerful beings at minimum and avatars of certain ideals at max. As you said, the Chaos gods are just manifestations of certain emotions. These powerful beings are shaped by living beings just as much as we are shaped by them, way more in fact.
Don't forget that Fabius Bile straight-up looked Slaanesh in the eye and denied its existence. Edit: I'm glad Bricky brought it up. It's a great scene.
I thought bricky would use his speech as the quote
"Nuh-uh" - Fabulous Bill
@@shonklebonkle324”the fuck you mean ‘nuh-uh’?” -Slaanesh
He literally talks about it at the 50 minute mark
he blinked though and had to turn away. and eventually he ended up having to compromise.
Bricky: "you are referring to *Fabulous* Bile"
DK: "AH, *FABIUS* BILE!"
Notice how DK DIDN'T fall for the trap and did indeed say his name right when Bricky baited him. DK truly did know his name
Fabulous Bill
@@MarkoDash Fae Bob
@@MarkoDash Faulty Billhook
Very impressive coming from him
Minor nitpick, but when Slaanesh was judging Fabius, he wasn't having a panic attack; his body was literally starting to stutter and shut down from the direct attention of a CHAOS GOD on him. He pumped himself full of drugs to keep his hearts from stopping. Would recommend burialgoods for a reading of Slaanesh's judgement of Fabius. Great reading, dude's got talent.
I felt like that one custodes from If the Emperor Had a TTS.
I just was left stunned and all I could say was " What the-... what the fuck? " when he got the character right.
Kitten!
I recall Fabius first being in the flight of the eisentsein, with Saul Tarvitz finding out about commander Eidolon’s “new abilities”
I was thinking this.
He also appears earlier than that since he’s the one to take the Anathame blade from the medic bay before Loken can get it properly analysed, although it’s a very in name only appearance.
An hour long segment being described as “foot in the door” is the most warhammer lore statement I’ve ever heard
The Emperor's Children is like the joke about life being the best for masochists. When it's bad for them they feel good, when it's good for them they feel bad so they feel good!
"Feeling bad? Sounds like it's just feeling good with extra steps."
Fun fact, a big reason the Blight was such a big deal is a ship carrying most of the Emperor's Children Geneseed vanished.
This happened because Trazyn stole it. This whole thing was Trazyn's fault.
Why would he do that?
@@alastor8091 he wanted the geneseed for his collection. He then trades some of it back to Bile in return for the Fulgrim clone
4d chess @@thewerdna force the galaxy to shit itself in order to have a monopoly for galaxy paper. If only Tranzyn could do it on such a scale
Fabulous Bob is the kind of atheist to get stared at by a large chunk of Slaanesh, have his organs crushed or start failing by the act and go "nope, just galactic phenomena, nothing there but the wind"
It's not that he doesn't believe in him. He doesn't think they're sentient. They are slaves to the emotions they reflect, and do not have any choice but to play out that nature.
Ave Pater Mutatis! Ave Pater Mutatis! Ave Pater Mutatis!
The Bile series is one of my favorite trilogy’s!
if you haven't yet, read Genefather. Guy Haley does Fabius Bile justice and he plays a very prominent role. The admech + darkmech show up too and Cawl has some incredible moments in there.
You'll remember i told you Bricky and Dk to read primogenitor, clonelord and manflayer novels. They're a Chaos Space Marine Brutal Kunnin, a Warp based Infinite and the Divine.
*The best 40k books ive ever read*
My dear Bricky, you assume Ferrus is as brick headed as Dorn? Oh dear lord no. He is WORSE THAN DORN!
I wouldn't discribe ferrus with any kind of head metaphor
*Emperor's Children gets shot in the spleen* "Brother, I have soiled my jorts, bring me another!"
Up yours, I took psychic damage from reading that. Take my like.
20:21 ah, he did the original Palpatine gambit.
Interesting topic, as I finished Angel Exterminatus little over a week ago, and Bile was in it quite a bit. It's where Fulgrim says "hey I miss Eiodolon, bring him back". Fsbius is like "ok, his head yaps at me while I try to work, anyways."
There was an older story where a sister of battle was corrupted by Slanesh because she took such joys in killing demons. Slanesh gets in not by people accepting them, they get in because you feed them and if you do it enough, they will consume you whether you want it or not.
Funnily enough the same as an addiction
So Fabius doesn't have clone degradation in the sense of each one getting more and more insane; but a continuous side thread in the trilogy is that each clone seems to be succumbing to the blight a bit quicker than the last.
Also, to be fair, we find out the blight isn't entirely biological and some warp shenanigans are to play.
Bile is one of the beings who can actually make demons afraid. Let’s that sink in.
*HE. MAKES. DEMONS. AFRAID!*
I think the 2ed greater demon he encounters while boarding the Eldar craftworld even comments on how the previous demon cursed Bile because of the extraordinary discomfort his poisoned caused that demon as it was banished.
On tonight's episode of the Ridiculous Tour:
Bricky reveals a new 7 day course to make you a _man!_
DK has a chance encounter with an old college professor!
And Shy sighs dramatically before activating the sonic transducer and flying everyone into space.
All this to come and more, after it's all said and done.
The problem with primarch clones isn't that they're genetically imperfect. It's that they are likely missing the warp entity that makes a primarch special.
That was the case with the Horus Clone. But the Fulgrim Clone had the special sauce (probably thanks to slaanesh)
Horus' clone didn't have the mojo because OG Horus' actual soul was destroyed by the Emperor, while the Fulgrim clone's mojo was intact because the physical body of a being holds more claim to a soul rather than a warp body, which is essentially what the OG Fulgrim has become.
@@jaketoth2322the clone essentially swiped the soul away from Slaanesh.😂
@@jaketoth2322well Horus special sauce was completely destroyed he won't ever really come back
@ironmyron6840 Does consciousness transfer with the soul? If it does then I'm confused why clonegrim wouldn't commit an hero immediately when he found himself in a limiting body
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Slaanesh showing up like "Fabulous Fabius! Loving the work!"
Fabius: ;;>_>
Also worth noting, Fabulous Bill *may* be well on his way to becoming an actual god himself, as the Pater Mutatus
Yes! Fabius Bile is a personal favorite of mine but his books were my first introduction to the wonderful universe of warhammer so I might be biased. Not really though because he set a pretty high bar. He also attracts some interesting characters like a female in chaos space marine armor or a world eater that uses meditation (and drugs) to control the butchers nails. Also, he was in Flight of the Eisenstein because he was the one that saved Nathaniel Garro after he encountered a Slaneesh war singer
Fabulous bill is the epitomy of "fuck you your cringe" then whenever someone else pipes up like "YEAH GET OWNED GOOD SHIT BRO" then he just looks at them and says "when the fuck did i say i was on your side? Your cringe too"
The marine witht tongue bricky mentioned, he didn't stick them on spikes, he blinded one, and made the other deaf so they could never comfor eachother. I believe the story was "masters bidding"
Showing my man Seto Kaiba when talking about denying the obvious transcendent reality before one's eyes is the best editing I've ever seen.
I love fabius but you should have explained his unique strain of atheism more. Its actually very interesting, he sees the chaos gods as a non sentient force of the universe, a combination of the collective unconsciousness of the universe.
He believes in them but he does not believe that they are sentient thinking beings.
(Edit) dk actually read or listen to the full excerpt that bricky read like a fourth of. Its beautifully written
"He is a scientist, he has a -laboratory-"
Yeah, technically correct. But after reading the descriptions in Genefather, I think "SAW-inspired warehouse-sized bathroom" would be a pretty fit description of his "lab" aesthetics.
Mf got kink-shamed by Slaanesh. That's a lot. That's an achievement right there.
Not really. It's very clear they haven't read/listened to the books.
@@Gustav_Kuriga Okay, got it. Can't fault him for that, he's (hopefully) reading for book club.
I am genuinely getting flabbergasted that DK is just getting quote after quote correctly nowdays. This feels unreal…
The real story with the Fulgrim clone is a lot more complicated and emotional than you break it down to be. You really should read the trilogy, it makes you sympathize with Fabius. And it has a World Eater who is a professor who likes gardening
Please let this episode speak about what happened at Genefather.
On the pretty good chance they won't, what happened?
@devin6787 Fabius got the secret to making primaries marines
the books are also great philosophy pieces on the nature of gods and morality
like "without nurgle's gifts would you not have been motivated to accomplish so much?"
Fabius goes by many names, but never call him Bob.
Bobbert
Fabulous bill
I KNOW MY WORTH. I KNOW MY CRIMES!
Bile is my favorite character
fun fact notice how tall the old model's cane is. It never changed he just grew up
The irony that the gene flaw being cancer when the chapter homeworld is chemo
The idea that Trayzen didn’t take both Bile and the Fulgrim clone is both hilarious and kind of on point.
Bike might just make more things to put into the gallery later!
Though it’s still fun to think that Trayzen absolutely could have just boxed a Chaos Lord for the sake of it xD
"So he is having a chaos panic attack."
I mean... not really. His panic is his organs slowly shutting down due to the presence of Slaanesh. XD
Well done DK!! Names are hard. But you actually dropped my jaw when you rolled into the description. Was very happy they gave it to you. 👏👏👏
Fabulous Bile: From mortal to walking a measure with literal gods without flinching. He knows there's a god in any given room - and studies show, it's him.
The way the current plot of 40k is going, Cawl's going to be faced with some dire issue and be like "only one man knows enough about the Emperor's work to be useful to me. Bring me Bile."
The Pandora's box recollection was... Not quite right. Hope was the only good thing in the box, not the _worst_ .
The dark eldar only rendering him unable to speak of their flesh craft seems more like "okay, that's our fault, we didn't say you can't teach your monkey friends"
In his signature encounter with Slaneesh, my reading was that he was pumping drugs and hyperventilating because he kind of... died. Big S stopped like, everything around him and killed all the power. He was literally just spamming meds to keep one of his hearts pumping, etc.
Man we should have gotten a warframe lore video as a April fools joke rip
God i need an episode of Ahriman… hes my fave and i need itttt.
Burialgoods did a great reading of that scene with Fabulous Bill being judged. Recommend a listen. He also did one with Talos and another with the Death guard. Very good.
Glad to see another appreciator of small TH-cam creators here.
Just discovered burialgoods recently, but have been loving his content.
Fabulous Bill strikes again!
To date my favorite model conversion I’ve ever seen was bile as dr.frankenfurter from rocky horror and his little goon as riff raff
Huge shout out to burialgoods, dude does pretty sick covers.
Jackal and Mr. Sinister from Marvel mixed into one deranged person.
Would love a Fabius Bile bookclub.
I promise this isn't an "Um Acshully" Bricky cause you were half right! The thing the surgeon acolyte was pulling out was a progenoid gland which helps make gene seed. That was a DK almost got the qoute level of close
the full excerpt of fabulous bill meeting slaanesh is probably my favorite bit of 40k writing
its just the perfect depiction of both slaanesh, but also of biles refusal to acknowledge that they are more then just cosmic phenomena
its not that he plugs his ears and goes "lalala" while having a panick attack
its that the sheer precense of slaanesh is enough to send the physical body into a meltdown, and all while his entire body is shutting down hes just standing there going "this is a natural phenomena, there is no god above me, the stars have no thoughts or emotion, this is no different from a hurricane or earthquake"
hes not closing his eyes and wishing it away, hes staring it in the face and denying it is anything more then a natural disaster
and slaanesh is depicted as this insanely beautifull, but terrible, thing, where just the gaze of her alone is enough to cause your body to break down due to how overwhelming she is
i love it
Bile's face-to-face with Slaanesh is carried out really nicely. We got this dude that's been slipping down the chute of abject madness for ages and ages, and the scene could be just the visualization of a catastrophic mental breakdown happening for him, while he's defiantly clinging to this flimsy internal mantra of 'logic' he keeps telling himself, that a deeper level of him knows he's well past. And that deeper level of himself and his realizations is trying to make itself heard to him.
Not to mention he's actively trying to stop his body from just dying from mass organ failure due to the sheer pressure of being face-to-face with Slaanesh.
My man littrally saw the glimpse of slaanesh and said "gods ain't real stupid."
The part about fabius being able to talk about his skills from comerrah has been retconned in modern lore, i think. Since the 3rd fabius bile book is about him, his most loyal students, a few slannesh warbands on loan from fulgrim and a chaos titan fighting the coven.
Somone reminded me if not since that books ending is a bit funky since one of his gland hounds becomes a "perfect" possessed and his word bearers pet becomes a priest for him.
Yeah, I'm guessing the source that Bricky learned about it from covers older lore from the codexes or something; likely that was the original story of Fabius and the Coven before Josh Reynolds fleshed it out in Manflayer.
I believe the slaanesh marine with the slave twins was in the short story 'The Masters Bid' (idk if that's the exact name), and iirc one of them was blind and one of them was deaf, so they couldn't communicate with each other.
I seem to remember the marine getting super pissed off when the twins died, because they died hugging eachother and he hated that they should feel any happiness.
He also got his shit rocked by pretty much everyone else there because he was hated so much
A bit of a shame that they didn't find out that Fabius is actually on his way to becoming a minor Chaos God. I mean, Bricky was reading the very book that it was brought up! (The Dark Eldar book).
He's going to be a step-up to a Daemon Prince.
If that happens, he's going to be so pissed lmaooo
I don't think Bricky actually read Manflayer, since the events he described with the Coven of the Thirteen Scars in the video don't really match how things go down in the novel. Likely he's referencing older codex lore surrounding Fabius that was written prior to Josh Reynolds fleshing it out in the trilogy.
@@Derenyx Hopefully he can do a bookclub on those, then.
As a Fabius fan I just want to add a couple of notes.
When it comes the the original cancer blight, Fabius didn't just steal someones piss and pass the test. As the apothecary in charge he swapped his results with another marines, someone he considered a friend and sent them off to be 'murder cured' in his place.
On a more personal conspiricy note; In the HH novels, one of the Raven Guard books details how they used pure gene seed to create new armies of Raven Guard but the batches of marines were infiltrated and corrupted by the Alpha Legion. The Alpha Legion also successfully stole some of the original gene seed but made sure to hand over to Fulgrim only the corrupted stuff. Fulgrim immediately handed the corrupted gene seed off to Fabius. Its unclear how much this corrupted gene seed still messes with Biles experiments but side effects of Biles experiments and what happened to the marines in the Raven Guard batches always seem to match up.
We finally got the Funky Bunky episode, the Fabulous Bill chapter, the Frivolous Bro event.
Fabius's flesh coat makes me wonder if any emperor's children have tried to make an Ahegao hoodie
You guys should do the Fabius Bile book club! It's soooo good.
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I haven't heard many people even talk about Biles New Man project or whatever its called. They are scary strong. A normal sized female of Biles fought the OG Primaris and even over powered him at times. If Bile finds away to produce them in mass.... EVERYONE is in trouble
Yay! Fabulous Billy!
There is so much Bile content. They didnt even start into the creations of bile, any of his multiple runs of astartes hunting humans, or his description as gestating a 4th dimensional larva.
I can’t believe I’ve been listening to you guys for a year by now!! Im so glad to have been listening to you guys for so long, and I have listened to the same episodes over and over again! Thank you, for making the amazing content you do!
Best opening I can remember. DK pretty much gets the quote, then Bricky calls him "Fabulous", and then none of them remark on the irony of that over the quote used. Pure fucking perfection.
I have never been hyped more for an episode before. Fabius Bile, the anti-god chad. I love him ever since I've read the books. He's fighting over the spot of my favorite character with Cawl. "Genefather" were basically just blue balls for me. I cannot wait to be under-re-informed. Hail the Primogenitor, hail the Clonelord, hail the Manflayer, hail the Spider, hail the Butcher, hail the flesh god! Ave Pater Mutatis!
(Please daddy please, do the books in book club, at least the trilogy and Genefather 🥺🥺🥺)
Funny thing about Bile: despite constantly talking trash about the Chaos Gods, it's very likely that his work is gestating a nascent Warp entity that his creations call "Pater Mutatis". To explain further, I should probably describe the Aetheric Dominions, the mechanics of the Warp, and the potential fifth Chaos God.
When I first got into Warhammer, a big question I had was why the Chaos Star had eight points if there were only four gods. The use of phrase like "the Eightfold Path" only deepened my confusion. Turns out that there are indeed eight component concepts to the Primordial Annihilator. Four of them correspond to the Chaos Gods: Infernal Tempest (Tzeentch), Rapturous Sensation (Slaanesh), Putrid Corruption (Nurgle), and Heedless Slaughter (Khorne). We all know what these are about, but there are four others that reflect other aspects of Chaos, each with an associated entity that people often call "the fifth Chaos God".
Encroaching Ruin is what we think of as Chaos Undivided: destruction for the sake of destruction, entropy without end. In Age of Sigmar, the Great Horned Rat fills this dominion, while 40k has the Dark King (who I don't really understand). Malevolent Artifice is easy, because it's just Vashtorr and his evil engineering shenanigans. Ravenous Dissolution is Chaos's propensity for self-defeating actions, and it explains why the Traitor Legions fight each other more than they fight the Imperium. Also cannibalism, to complete the metaphor. The being associated with this domain is the Renegade God, Malice (Schrodinger's Canon says he's real for the sake of this argument).
That leaves Formless Distortion, the dominion of mutation, metamorphosis, and inconstancy of form (in my opinion, these rightfully belong in Tzeentch's portfolio, but whatever). At first blush, there are no entities that solely embody these concepts. Then you realize that Fabius Bile is worshipped by Chaos devotees across the galaxy as Pater Mutatis: The Father of Mutants. Granted, worship alone does not a Chaos God make, but consider the sheer scale of Bile's work: a new humanity, seeded across thousands of worlds, all wrought by a single fleshcrafter whose deeds have inspired numberless copycats. He even found a way to cheat death. And guess what Formless Distortion involves? To paraphrase its flavor text from the Burning of Ohmn-Mat: "death is simply one component of eternal metamorphosis."
All this from a guy who personally met Slaanesh and refused to acknowledge the existence of the Chaos Gods, even when it nearly killed him.
Excellent scholarly evaluation, how has nobody else picked up on this?
Also where can I read more about the eightfold path phenomenon? Any recommendations
@@secretname2670 The Burning of Ohmn-Mat is a free Horus Heresy PDF that gives tabletop rules for bound daemons, which is where the flavor text for each dominion came from. In fact, I think this was originally introduced through the Horus Heresy.
If you're interested in Pater Mutatis specifically, I recommend the Fabius Bile trilogy. There's a number of characters who talk about Bile's relationship with the gods.
I think the marine you were talking about is emmish ayie, he had twins as slaves. One was blind and the other was deaf, by his hands of course. He also cut off their arms so that they could never embrace. I think its from the short story 'The masters bidding'
The first noise marine is Marius, captain of the 2nd Company
No talk of Fab's ""NEW MEN'"❓️🤷♂️
the virgin emperor versus the chad Fabius. "gods exist but they're actually interdimensional horrors" isn't quite atheist skepticism its more rationalism. rather than just stars and void, there's interdimensional phenomena. kinda like people who believe in cryptids from a scientific perspective, in that they're weird paranormal stuff but can still be explained.
but contrary to the episode portrays him fabius is actually pretty philanthropic in purpose in wanting to create a race that will survive. him having the the mice dress up was just him wanting to have pets as a kid, and being said when they ate eachother. the reason why he couldn't fix the Blight is because it turned out to be a nurgle like infection.
The Blight which inflicted the third legion was a genetic infection, there wasn't any warp stuff in play and it was very much a physical phage. Now with Fabius himself, it's heavily implied that the blight has become a psuedo-daemonic warp entity permanently attached to him, acting like a cocoon for the nascent minor warp deity growing inside him (Pater Mutatis).
After this we absolutely need AdRic to do a book club on the Fabius Bile trilogy, some of BL's best writing and a constant reminder of how much of a shame it was that they alienated Josh Reynolds, that man got Fabius and the Emperor's Children like nobody else. So many of the iconic moments explained here (Meeting Trazyn, the Perfect Fulgrim Clone, his time in Commorragh, meeting 'Slaanesh') are portrayed so amazingly.
Plus the supporting cast is excellent; from the other member's of Bile's Consortium (Arrian Zorzi, Skalagrim, Saqqura) to the 12th Millennial (Savona my queeeeen) and the New Men. Daemon Fulgrim and the current day 3rd Legion also has an excellent appearance.
The Fabius Bile books are really really good. Would highly recommend. Went into the omnibus not really caring and thinking he was just a stereotypical mad scientist and came out with him as my favorite character.
i listen to these videos at 6 am driving for 40 mins to work crossing forests and a lake
Even the fanartists who drew those wonderful pictures of Fulgrim are not as desperate for his seed as several in-universe characters...
1:02:00 My man asking if Slaanesh needs consent.
Please do an another episode on Bile. There is so many things left to talk about but maybe it would be better for a bookclub. The trilogie is worth it.
As if Shy couldn't charm me any more than she has already with her ork painting and general attitude, she goes and pulls a Pratchett quote from one of my favorite books.
Well, I'm not surprised to learn the Emperor's Children for the most part hailing from what once had been Europe: I'm pretty much certain their history goes stretches back thousands of years to the 21st century's Berlin club scene.
Certain I say.
Great work with the discword reference
We love getting real next steps on deepening our knowledge more episodes should have book recommendations in the beginning.
I’m honestly curious if Fabius ever tried to clone the emperor.🐱
he basically threatens abbadon with doing that I think, when abbaddon fights clone-horus, commenting on how the blood on the talons abbadon wields also contain the blood of the emperor and what he could do with that blood
I loved the way they described Slaanesh. Beautiful and terrifying and awe inspiring all in one