[TF2] In Defense of the Bonk Atomic Punch

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  • @fishstickonastick-gaming
    @fishstickonastick-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +781

    Guys there's multiple ways to pronounce "Conch."

    • @thenamesandounts9807
      @thenamesandounts9807 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, like crotch.

    • @pogobod2128
      @pogobod2128 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      i pronounce it male chicken

    • @ExBronyPony
      @ExBronyPony ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@pogobod2128so… rooster?

    • @crokobos
      @crokobos ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Can I make the n silent

    • @rogueknightben
      @rogueknightben 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i fuckin love your voice

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 ปีที่แล้ว +2301

    I didn't even know this thing _had_ a negative reputation; I always assumed the general consensus was that it was just.. alright. Far from the worst option you could pick, at the bare minimum.

    • @yeafu1924
      @yeafu1924 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      It is alright, but compared to other scout secondaries, it's pretty underwhelming

    • @Her_Imperious_Condescension
      @Her_Imperious_Condescension ปีที่แล้ว +354

      ​@@yeafu1924
      How spoiled are scout mains that on demand invincibility is "pretty underwhelming"

    • @EdibleREAL
      @EdibleREAL ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It honestly felt just mediocre

    • @yadfud363
      @yadfud363 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      I think people think that the moniker of "Scout's worst secondary" means that the Bonk! is actually bad.
      Every single scout secondary can be, the very least, considered good, but some (the Guillotine and Milk) are better than the others, overshadowing them.

    • @joaorugeri9885
      @joaorugeri9885 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      ​@@Her_Imperious_Condescension its a "busted on paper, alright in practice" situation.

  • @X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X
    @X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X ปีที่แล้ว +821

    I once saw someone who would drink it, run to the enemy team, taunt, and run away. They kept doing this for the entire game.

    • @sansbros4929
      @sansbros4929 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

      That's the only reason I play scout anymore. It's hilarious watching the whole team stop and glare angrily at you.

    • @LazyAndFabulous
      @LazyAndFabulous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      ​​@@sansbros4929
      Thats some nice tactic, now that I think about it

    • @beautifulnova6088
      @beautifulnova6088 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Psyops.

    • @PootisPenserPow
      @PootisPenserPow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Based scout players

    • @jblazerndrowzy
      @jblazerndrowzy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Psychological Warfare

  • @selbi182
    @selbi182 ปีที่แล้ว +985

    Conspiracy Theory: This video is just unmarked advertising for Bonk. You didn't see the fat paycheck Fish received behind the scenes.

    • @yourdemiseishere
      @yourdemiseishere ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You mean funfact?

    • @yeafu1924
      @yeafu1924 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Big bonk is expanding

    • @thatinternetguyj5222
      @thatinternetguyj5222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Wait, its all Bonk Advertising?

    • @SnipingIsAGoodJobMate
      @SnipingIsAGoodJobMate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@yeafu1924There is place for only one Big Bonk.

    • @pokeperson1000
      @pokeperson1000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@thatinternetguyj5222always has been

  • @alexbarnes5359
    @alexbarnes5359 ปีที่แล้ว +1044

    Gotta respect the scout from 15:10 for seeing the tauntkill and walking back into it for the sheer funny

    • @satoruriolu6132
      @satoruriolu6132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

      Its funny to think this might be the most effective taunt kill because people choose to be killed by it

    • @abhaybhatt4286
      @abhaybhatt4286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      ​@@satoruriolu6132that flying ragdoll and sound effect is always worth it

    • @jsplicer9
      @jsplicer9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Neuron activation

    • @CatWithAMatch
      @CatWithAMatch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ey dont forget the scout & demo at 7:40

    • @Hack--rz1io
      @Hack--rz1io 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What a hero

  • @benjaminfrankson6759
    @benjaminfrankson6759 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    That feeling when you realize that your In Defense video was actually a cleverly disguised advertisement for the Bonk.

  • @charlesmieth2467
    @charlesmieth2467 ปีที่แล้ว +661

    12:06 As a medic main, I feel that crossbow shot on a primal level

    • @xeanderman6688
      @xeanderman6688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Monkey neuron activation

    • @Kernando
      @Kernando 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Am I crazy or smth cause I keep not seeing it

    • @recruit8921
      @recruit8921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      @@Kernando12:04 you can see the crossbow miss while he’s drinking the bonk

    • @Kernando
      @Kernando 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah ok I thought I was looking for a hit not a miss lmao@@recruit8921

    • @SnivyTries
      @SnivyTries 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

      "Oh shit that Scout's about to die, I'll use my thousands of hours of experience as medic to lead my shot and sav-wait why did he stop moving fuck"

  • @pumpkingpie2938
    @pumpkingpie2938 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    The legend of the Bonk Drinker 🗿

    • @JoeBidenIcecream
      @JoeBidenIcecream ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The Donk Binker

    • @TheSaltAlchemist
      @TheSaltAlchemist ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Bro thinks he's a force of nature.

    • @chettra9152
      @chettra9152 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@TheSaltAlchemist bro thought he was a sun on a stick

    • @doctorprepologedyedeyadede3542
      @doctorprepologedyedeyadede3542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@chettra9152He must be as strong as Sandman

    • @cursedbroly8576
      @cursedbroly8576 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ⁠@@doctorprepologedyedeyadede3542Strong as a Sandman, wow. He must be a good “Soda-Popper”

  • @AtomizerBaT
    @AtomizerBaT ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Fun Fact: The Inspector Bonk meme video predates the release of the actual item. (September 15, 2008 and February 24, 2009)
    It was even published when Bush was still in office, showing just how far TF2 memes go back

  • @_JustynkaPL
    @_JustynkaPL ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I love "In defense of" series. Please do not end it

    • @shanegiorgio4713
      @shanegiorgio4713 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I mean, it's hard to defend good weapons that people call bad when we're out of good weapons that people call bad. If there's any that we haven't gotten a video about yet I'd be glad to hear it

    • @_JustynkaPL
      @_JustynkaPL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@shanegiorgio4713 yeah I guess you're 100% right

    • @FoulUnderworldCreature
      @FoulUnderworldCreature 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@shanegiorgio4713has he done one for the back burner yet

    • @shanegiorgio4713
      @shanegiorgio4713 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FoulUnderworldCreature I don't know if there's a sizable enough group calling it bad, but we haven't gotten a video on the backburner yet

    • @FoulUnderworldCreature
      @FoulUnderworldCreature 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shanegiorgio4713 A lot of people think it's the worst flamethrower and write it off as gimmicky and inconsistent. I think the general consensus on ranking them is: degreaser, stock, dragons fury, phlog, backburner.

  • @frozenover_exe
    @frozenover_exe ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Genuinely one of the best uses I’ve seen for Bonk is on Steel Offence. If you play your cards right, you can back cap to effectively either cut the enemy team’s numbers in half or increase their respawn timers for a bit, since they’ll all be focused on dealing with the back cap, then crack open a cold one the moment things get hairy. It may not be the most consistent strat, but when it works, it fuckin works

  • @donaterdosi618
    @donaterdosi618 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Imagine if Scout could share his drinks Heavy shares his food items.

    • @TheMistermastermario
      @TheMistermastermario 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Bonk Engineer will become the new meta

    • @starmaker75
      @starmaker75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The second banana on scout would be really powerful, almost broken. Also a crit and cola heavy would be both hilarious and frustrating to face

    • @thegamingcheeseeater1061
      @thegamingcheeseeater1061 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@starmaker75Nah the chocolate bar would be. Imagine a 175 health scout with the ability to heal 2/3 of that every 10 seconds. No thanks

    • @starmaker75
      @starmaker75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@thegamingcheeseeater1061 yeah that too will be broken as well

    • @defensivekobra3873
      @defensivekobra3873 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@starmaker75point probably valid but i don't think that's what OP meant

  • @sheacorduroy5565
    @sheacorduroy5565 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Bonk’s viability as an escape tool is why it’s banned in sixes since it basically allows a scout to yolo himself at a med, pick said med and then get back to his combo.

    • @catpurrito5586
      @catpurrito5586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      its still pretty underused in pub, my guess is in pub its way too crowded to make this works all the times?

    • @Bnvnu
      @Bnvnu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@catpurrito5586 nah, it's just another case of comp players banning options because it breaks their immersion of what "elite" gameplay looks like (this is especially prevalent for scout's secondary options, he only has two, including stock) as for pub... compared to other options, bonk is very hard to use to it's fullest potential, on top of having a higher rate of new players, therefore less usage rate

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Comp 6v6 is a completely different game and shouldn't be taken as the source of balance.

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Bnvnu simple issue with bonk in pubs is that it requires team play for offensive bonk and to sometimes wait for bonk to recharge.
      annoying scout mains however main scout specifically to avoid doing those things.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Bnuvu Or maybe Sixes and Highlander are different gamemodes with different balance demands?

  • @randomalt9617
    @randomalt9617 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    15:10 Props to Gibby for respecting the taunt kill potential

  • @evanphillips4094
    @evanphillips4094 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    the main problem with the bonk is fighting the urge to schadenfreude immediately after drinking to escape an unwinnable situation

  • @Ang3lUki
    @Ang3lUki ปีที่แล้ว +33

    7:55 I love this, because this is actually something Jerma himself said about the Bonk back in the day when he made the spy scout video

  • @ImDaRealBoi
    @ImDaRealBoi ปีที่แล้ว +63

    One of the more interesting applications I've seen with bonk is as an anti bot tool. Not like mvm bots, but sniper bots. Those bots are built to ignore invulnerable people, so during those 8 seconds, you aren't just invincible but also invisible to bots. So you don't have to worry about getting pushed around or even avoided. If you stand in front of the path they're supposed to follow, they can't do a thing. And so people are using bonk to taunt kill bots like a sport. The tf2 community is really something

  • @uningenious
    @uningenious ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Bonk is actually pretty good for aggroing sentries and forcing heavies to back off. For example, if your team pushes, you can use bonk to distract the sentry to let your team finish it off at little risk, or bodyblock a heavy to prevent him from doing much damage. It has it's own team uses.

    • @outspade
      @outspade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      can confirm as someone who got trashed as engineer by a bonk scout and demoman combo
      it was cool to see actual teamwork in a pub so i didnt mind it was pretty cool

    • @SnackPatrol
      @SnackPatrol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm late to this video but yeah I do it all the time. The reason it doesn't work most of the time is because people don't communicate with their team what they're doing. A lot don't even realize the effectiveness of this tactic. If you say over voice chat "I'm distracting the gun gogogo get it!" and a good offensive class is near & understands what you're doing it's great.

  • @filthycasual6118
    @filthycasual6118 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    You'd have to drink a whole helluva lot of Bonk! Atomic Punch to get any of those side-effects. Like, full as a tick on Bonk!.

    • @financialzero5684
      @financialzero5684 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Anyone else notice that some of the cans have a blue baseball in the bottom? What’s up with that?

  • @Ratscallion_exe
    @Ratscallion_exe ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Fun fact: Baby face's blaster boost works with Bonk invulnerability.

    • @Kewertate
      @Kewertate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Ferb I know what we're gonna do today!

    • @jennbob5521
      @jennbob5521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Kewertatelol

    • @DoctorBones1
      @DoctorBones1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would actually be a great combo if baby face boost didnt go away to a stray cough

    • @whensomethingcriesagain
      @whensomethingcriesagain 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DoctorBones1Just go get more then

  • @PARTY_MUTT
    @PARTY_MUTT ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Dude the Bonk is my favorite scout item! I'll admit I use it way more for memes than actual strategic plays but its a very unique item.

    • @EmberTheFlareon3579
      @EmberTheFlareon3579 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lets you do what Heavies couldn't, tank sentries. XD

    • @bobertastic6541
      @bobertastic6541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Just standing in front of battlements spawn on 2fort and blocking snipers is funny

    • @PARTY_MUTT
      @PARTY_MUTT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bobertastic6541 I do that with a baseball bat taunt for
      The kill, gets them STEAMED LOL

    • @bobertastic6541
      @bobertastic6541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PARTY_MUTT especially funny if they stare at you for a solid second doing nothing to prevent dying then get mad in chat lol

  • @hammdogporkington3058
    @hammdogporkington3058 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    8:55 "Get a pick or two"
    *Deals 65 damage to a Heavy*

  • @yourdemiseishere
    @yourdemiseishere ปีที่แล้ว +98

    The winger itself is also underrated, you literally get to do the FaN jump spots for free while still having about 100 damage, PBPP is more subject to spread due to the fire speed and the winger stays as a good finisher in a shorter time, if it had 1 more bullet it could kill 125 pretty consistently. Use it with the soda popper to burst from weird angles or pop the 5 jumps and literally fly away.

    • @drivanradosivic1357
      @drivanradosivic1357 ปีที่แล้ว

      personally, if the Winger just had a mag size of 9 rounds that would make it better. PBPP is better off with a little damage debuff(it is a POCKET pistol meaning lower caliber) while having 12 rounds.
      I would also want a Soda Popper Hype edition(Get Hyped, has Bonk cans and the jumps) and Soda Popper Psyche edition(Get Psyched, Has Crit-A-Cola and minicrits) with a meter you fill up with damage. the only thing I am not sure about is should the Soda Popper Psyched mode be a Soda popper only minicrit buff or like the Cleaner's Carbine minicrit buff.
      I would buff the Sodas(Bonk and Critacola) by allowing them to give 50HP that can temporary increase HP(Bonk after the invulnerability wears off, and Critacola when you drink, might be even like a pocket small med kit when not used aggressively)

    • @OGuiBlindao
      @OGuiBlindao 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But just use the melee slot for an atomizer, that way you dont sacrifice your secondary, which is way more imprtant than the melee as a scout

    • @CrustyTheMoist
      @CrustyTheMoist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@OGuiBlindao Atomizer feels so clunky though

    • @shardar6809
      @shardar6809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@OGuiBlindaomelee slot is for the fish

    • @OGuiBlindao
      @OGuiBlindao 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrustyTheMoist for me winger feels like it changes nothing, even though it does, atomizer gices the triple jump which is noticable, and lets you keep a better secondary

  • @AtomizerBaT
    @AtomizerBaT ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One time, I was playing CP_Granary and below the dropdown before mid, there was a Level 3 Sentry. Fortunately, I had the Bonk and a Soldier with me. I drank the Bonk, dropped down, and let the Soldier take care of it. It's a simple example, but it's one of my favorite memories with the Bonk.

  • @lumber-smack410
    @lumber-smack410 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I was playing on an uncletopia server as engineer and had a rough time setting up, but a scout stayed behind while under bonk and soaked up shots for my level 1 sentry from spam. Crazy smart idea and unbelievably helpful

  • @farkrits
    @farkrits ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I thought we pronounced Concheror like that because we all just understood it was a pun on it being a conch but I guess we're all troglodytes.

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, fish is very wrong here. The word he's thinking of is "conquerer" with, you know, a q

    • @Vorox1027
      @Vorox1027 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Hate to burst you guys' bubble, but Conch is usually pronounced with a silent 'h'.
      SpongeBob lied to you all.

    • @mewmew8932
      @mewmew8932 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vorox1027 a coc

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@vyor8837thats the pun. it sounds like conqueror

    • @farkrits
      @farkrits 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Vorox1027 If you're American. In non-bald eagle hamburger miles per oil English you very much pronounce the "h".

  • @dvircohen2465
    @dvircohen2465 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    aw geez I'm going to die of radioactive poisoning

  • @Poppy_Krittycat
    @Poppy_Krittycat ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Great video man! I have always wondered why no-one seems to pay any attention to the Bonk despite it's obvious advantages, so I'm glad this video gives the Bonk the respect it deserved

    • @thisdeath
      @thisdeath ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wait how is comment from 16 hours ago when this is just uploaded? :0

    • @SocknessMonster
      @SocknessMonster ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thisdeathmemberships?

    • @thisdeath
      @thisdeath ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SocknessMonster ohh yea i noticed they are members i see

    • @januszpolak254
      @januszpolak254 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess because people only see those new f2p scouts that get thrown into corner by sentry or use it to get behind enemy lines and fail hard. Not to mention stigma of it being Dead Ringer for Scout when he don't need weapon like this.

    • @Poppy_Krittycat
      @Poppy_Krittycat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thisdeath Channel members get the video a day early

  • @thenamesandounts9807
    @thenamesandounts9807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:25 I love how you referenced old Festus here!

  • @keromora
    @keromora 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love him drinking bonk and leaving his medic to die cuz fighting a single pyro with a medic on u is too hard

    • @masonkay7024
      @masonkay7024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He had under 20 health left

  • @medic-ez9fo
    @medic-ez9fo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Funnily enough in the spanish translation of tf2. The Bonk is called Bonk! La bebida salvavida (the lifesaver drink). Giving your point as a main focus of the item

  • @totallynotdsl8507
    @totallynotdsl8507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bonk is literally mini uber, people just don't use it right, I use it to help team push sentry nests, or straight up tank an enemy heavy medic uber by body blocking

    • @Samagachi
      @Samagachi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could also use it to force snipers to fight in close quarters. Once it wears off, blast the sniper with the scattergun

  • @FluffyGoofball
    @FluffyGoofball ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for making this video. The conversation rarely comes up, but people never believe me when I say this thing is really useful maybe now people will see us true potential. Great video, Fish! ❤

  • @deacondracul501
    @deacondracul501 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who has always used bonk as a secondary on scout, it rly is an underrated tool for scout.
    As the many applications for it are very handy when you need it such as:
    -Potentially distract a sentry to try to pave way for your team to destroy it
    -Get out of jail card if your in deep, meaning you can run to safety (unless pyro's or sentries lock you in place)
    -Avoid effects of afterburn/bleed
    -Works with jumping effects such as: Soda popper, atomizer
    -Generally act as a distraction
    -Run behind the enemy lines with the bonk to harass and annoy the enemy team or destroy engi's teleporter to buy your team more time
    But that's what it is a tool for scout to get around or get out of situations or to use it to distract the enemy team!
    As for why i feel like its unpopular among scouts is cause they see bonk as a gimmicky secondary that strips you of other secondry choices such as dmg or healing.
    Anywho Great Video Fish!

  • @EpicGamerScout
    @EpicGamerScout ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The bit at the end of the video about how many other good options scout has I think really just nails it. Bonk is versatile, and has a few things it does amazingly(running through a hell choke/distracting sentry/meme tauntkills), but is really just overlooked because of how many additional great choices it has to compete with. For the situations bonk lets you barely escape too much damage, perhaps milk lets you barely get the kill instead. For the situations bonk lets you take a breather to reload, perhaps pistols let you barely get the kill instead. Etc etc
    Which puts it in the useful but weird middle-ground between playing really aggressive and really careful.

  • @fossfox
    @fossfox ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Bonk is an item that isn't always strong, but when it is, it's amazing. Perfect niche sidegrade.

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My only "buff" to the Bonk would be to have it give the player an extra (stackable with Atomizer) jump while invincible, as well as immunity to sentry knock-back. That'd cement its niche as the ultimate flank tool that can compete with the Winger, and ensure a bonk scout can consistently jump their way to the backline without being body-blocked by defenders or pinned by turrets.
    I put "buff" in quotation marks because this feels more like a QOL change that just lets it do its job more consistently.

  • @piggip869
    @piggip869 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It’s actually an amazing item because people are so used to bonk being used as a meme that when someone uses it to be effective people get surprised

  • @netnick7063
    @netnick7063 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pissing someone off while behind enemy lines and baiting them to 1v1 you is like mge but better, and you can do it so consistently with bonk, i love it.

  • @Squeebmax
    @Squeebmax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The "Spawn-Pestering" Scout is actually a really efficient playstyle that can genuinely help the team, from my experience. If top-scoring is anything to go by, at least. It works best on Payload and most Attack/Defense maps on either team, so long as you have enough room to run around actually behind the team, so usually after your enemy's spawn moves for the first time.
    The strat gets better if you can get in a voice call with a friend and coordinate. It counters sentries they might place to deter you, not to mention that being double-teamed by Scouts is a death sentence for most classes, especially if they're caught off-guard.
    It's a fantastic weapon, and I hope Scouts continue to not use it so I don't have to deal with people doing that to my team.

  • @SonicMegamanFan
    @SonicMegamanFan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Distraction Scout exists for a reason. Enemy teams can be completely steamrolled cuz "GET THA SCOUT" becomes the entire mindset

  • @666chaox666
    @666chaox666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best use for the bonk is what King Mudkip does, where he drinks it, blocks the path of a sniper bot and taunt kills it.

  • @MaestroMagnifico21
    @MaestroMagnifico21 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    my go to Scout secondary is Bonk! Atomic Punch mainly because i have a strange festive one from when it didnt have the slow down if you got hit while invulnerable. it is still a fun item for scout even with the slow down.

  • @wewserlethaldude9
    @wewserlethaldude9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Huh. Now I'm wondering if Bonked Scout can taunt-kill a dispenser.

  • @Gnome_Tank
    @Gnome_Tank ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of thd funnest things to do as a bonk scout is to just annoy the fuck out of the enemy heavy, whenever he is in a spot to shoot your teamates, pop bonk and just stand infront of him. Eat his bullets so he cant do anything, also a great way to ensure your heavy wins the heavy 1v1

  • @Carwinley
    @Carwinley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thinking about it, the Bonk basically turns you into a Medic who popped Uber on themselves only, since they have to hold the medi gun to keep the Uber active and therefore can't attack.

  • @cooldudemcswagcooldudemcsw4697
    @cooldudemcswagcooldudemcsw4697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    One day us TF2 players will learn that teamwork in this game will make items perform better

  • @RaynmanPlays
    @RaynmanPlays 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I was going to drink my drink but I forgot to drink my drink so I died. ...BONK ATOMIC PUNCH!"
    -Ster

  • @luigibros5000
    @luigibros5000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve been running bonk as my main secondary for quite awhile and I never really understood why people disliked it so much. The most common complaint I see is that you use it to get behind the enemy lines and the enemy team will just chase you down, but this is often a good thing. They could be doing the actual objective, but instead there chasing around some random scout who may end up killing them anyway. Either they ignore you and you can do whatever you want, or they chase you and multiple players waste their time dealing with you.

  • @arbitrary_thoughts
    @arbitrary_thoughts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bonk, Cleaver, and Winger are the Scout secondaries I use (in that order). Bonk is just really great for escapes, closing the distance between impossible odds, blocking enemies, and taking down nests.

  • @MegaChibirobo
    @MegaChibirobo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As much as I love Elmaxo, his legend of bonk drinker video really pushes that negative stigma of the bonk. Great video, very funny and entertaining, but put down by a misunderstanding of what the bonk is really meant to do. Glad to see another great creator doing their best to redeem it in the eyes of the community.

  • @thedoglovinggamer5825
    @thedoglovinggamer5825 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:47 Finally! SOMEONE GIVES THAT MASTERPIECE OF A THEME SONG CREDIT!!!

  • @moronribbons5774
    @moronribbons5774 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I started using bonk a while back when I decided to give the shortstop a try and it's actually really fun to use, especially getting in the face of a kritz duo and stuffing shots. Nothing feels cooler than running straight into the face of a heavy trying to gun my team down and jumping all over him like a flea while he's helplessly focused down, unable to return fire. It is also a great but still balanced and not always useful escape tool, and most soldiers or demos won't realize you're bonked at first so you absolutely can get them to do some serious self-hitting, especially in a scenario like the heavy one where they try to keep shooting your teammates, since you can just stand in the way blocking shots.

  • @watermelonprom7197
    @watermelonprom7197 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If it was up to me I'd just make the Bonk give you a slight speed boost & extra jumps but when the effect wears off you get a speed debuff & can't double jump for a moment

    • @watermelonprom7197
      @watermelonprom7197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now that I have actually watched the full video I actually just realized a really good strat use the bonk to get behind enemy lines & then use the force of nature to fling the enemy team out from behind cover

  • @toxagen1144
    @toxagen1144 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:47 oh no, don't tell Fish that the download link goes to Furaffinity or he's gonna get livid

  • @scantyer
    @scantyer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another way that agressive bonking is useful is that the scout can have clean meatshots which can very well kill the opponent or leave it at low HP that another shot + teammates can also kill them. Since the bonk effect is very subtle while stationary they'll usually react slower than the scout that is about to shoot them at point blank

  • @hoenntrainer3422
    @hoenntrainer3422 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact, Bonk use to cause slow speed now matter what back when it first released, and even back then, you could still negate the slow down in the same way. There was a video showing you could tap A,D back and forth while moving forward and it still works.

  • @resell_enjoy6
    @resell_enjoy6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bonk Atomic Punch on offense: get behind enemies to made sentry nests easier to deal with while also making flanking harder to deal with
    Bonk Atomic Punch on defense: Fatmagic easy mode

  • @bluec9151
    @bluec9151 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember I was on the last point of upward and managed to help my team push using the bonk. I was too bad at demoman or spy to take out their two level 3 sentries, but as it turns out they’re not very useful when locked onto a random scout with invincibility.

  • @kekskruemel05
    @kekskruemel05 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    15:30 you forgot cancer

  • @theonedude4322
    @theonedude4322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While watching this some points may already have been talked about but I need to say that one viable method I found with the Bonk is one thing: Bonk Surfing.
    Specifically for making tactical retreats and feign plays. When I play Scout I like to be a constant nuscience, doing the absolute most stupid stuff possible to make the enemy hate me. If the enemy hates me, they'll shoot me. And when they shoot me, I can surf off that damage to do even more stupid stuff. So if I combine that with the Bonk, I turn into a subclass of the Bird Scout: The Bonkers Bird Scout. Flying through the air, using damage surfing to bob and weave through danger, and the skies remain my home, all while taking absolutely no damage, whatsoever.
    For tactical retreats, I often use the Bonk as a distraction tool and more of a taunting method than anything. After all, annoying the enemy is good for my team, since they'll be too focused on *me* to stop a push of *11 other people.* Plus, it's funny to see the entire team trying to damage me as much as possible only for me to get away and do it all over again nearly half a minute later, as I'm in safety and the slowdown is meaningless unless there happens to be a Spy there.
    For feint plays though? Oh boy. Oooh boy. I can use Bonk to do so many flanks, so many impossibly stupid stunts that if I take a direct fight, I don't care if I die. The moment I use the Bonk to feint out my enemies it's satisfying to see the cart or point being capped because some Boston born idiot decided to drink a soda and get an 8 second Godmode buff. And if I win direct fights even with the slowdown it's even more hilarious, because most people assume a slowed Scout is an easy target.
    They're not.

  • @ZorotheGallade
    @ZorotheGallade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've often been using the Bonk as a crutch, but in time I kinda saw what kind of mind games you can play on the enemy team with it. When you zip past the enemy team to flank them from behind, you are putting them in a position where they have to either ignore you and risk an ambush, send one or two of their numbers to hunt you down instead of assissting, or worst case scenario (for them) they halt all their momentum briefly as they turn around to try and hit you when the effect ends, which can cost them dearly if your allies just so happen to be making an important push at the time.

  • @thomasthetanderloin
    @thomasthetanderloin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The bonk punch is actually pretty good in MvM.
    If you use it as the first part of each wave comes down, your essentially immune and can pick up the first few money drops without issue, immediately raising your health to 300+. From that point on you simply don't die the entire wave unless you do something incredibly stupid.

  • @fireboltchamploo7620
    @fireboltchamploo7620 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Ed, Edd, n Eddy sound effect in the opening clip threw me off so much.
    I love watching your vids, I'm about 500 hours deep in TF2 and I learn something new whenever I watch your vids Fish!
    Thanks for being peak Team Fortress 2 edutainment.

  • @wesleywheeler7891
    @wesleywheeler7891 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's always been one of my go to scout secondaries.

  • @noah-ux2cz
    @noah-ux2cz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can’t eat what ain’t bugs but apparently you cant drink what ain’t radiation. Sucks to suck Scout.

  • @garbotoxin_enthusiast
    @garbotoxin_enthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite bonk combo is with the baby face since you can run in, get speed, then run out with bonk using the speed to get out

  • @ityabean
    @ityabean หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fish: "We're gonna call this strategy Aggressive Bonking."
    Me, as my cat rubs his head on my laptop with the force of a Buick with its brake lines cut: "yeah I'm familiar"

  • @jafsrob
    @jafsrob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    with regard to comparing it to scouts secondaries, the bar is just REALLY high. Scout arguably has the best secondary selection in the game.

    • @VagueCastle649
      @VagueCastle649 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Scout has literally the best secondary selection in the game lmao

  • @itsslasheyy6958
    @itsslasheyy6958 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will always love the bonk, I fondly remember the game which I fell in love with it, all I did was drink the bonk, laugh at the enemy team, say thanks and then run away, peak scout gaming.

  • @theroguenetwork1083
    @theroguenetwork1083 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Videos like this are made possible by viewers like you.”
    My inner PBS child: 😀

  • @GigasGMX
    @GigasGMX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, this is more "advice for using" than "in defense of", but that's what Bonk needed so I'm not complaining.

  • @jasperrice8456
    @jasperrice8456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Bonk! is my favorite scout secondary, because it has all the qualities I look for in a tf2 weapon. It's a silly concept, with a fun gimmick, with great potential for meme play while also being a good offensive or defensive tool for serious play.

  • @The_Boondoggler
    @The_Boondoggler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So from what I’m gathering, the best strategy for bonk is “tactical meat shield”

  • @the_cosmic_clown100
    @the_cosmic_clown100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your content fish! not only funny but informative and entertaining!

  • @coolepic519
    @coolepic519 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    literally the baby faces blaster, you click once, get atleast minimum move speed back, and run away and live, and yeah also the funny force a nature and sodapopper kills

  • @noeldorritoni5884
    @noeldorritoni5884 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Phenomenal video as always! I most often see Bonk! being used as a panic button- a form of 'I fucked up, so let's do plan B!', which is a valid use! I don't know why people call Bonk! bad at all.

  • @ZeRedSpy
    @ZeRedSpy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Pokémon music in the background is wonderful, god the memories.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The concheror."
    What scout needs is a weapon called the "Bonkeror."

  • @geonsilberlicht4632
    @geonsilberlicht4632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dafuq? I don't think I ve ever heard someone use the old regi-fight theme as a background for anything - big fan of it, great choice!

  • @Peastable
    @Peastable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was doing the backscatter contract, this thing was amazing. Saved my life countless times and let me get away with silly things and escape scott free.

  • @budgetcommander4849
    @budgetcommander4849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:20 The main reason is because of target priority. Who's a bigger threat- The guy shooting at you, or the guy who will be shooting at you a few seconds from now that's immune to damage? Either they focus fire on you, and then get gunned down by your teammates who are actively shooting at them, or ignore you, and then get meatshot when the bonk effect runs out with their back turned. That's the true power of the Bonk. You present them with a choice, either make a stupid play or a different stupid play. Either way, they just left themselves vulnerable and distracted.

  • @maniacparty637
    @maniacparty637 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dang Bonk Atomic Punch has a lot of the same side effects as Sunset Sarsaparilla 😢

  • @psychospy9214
    @psychospy9214 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that inspector bonk song was my whole childhood

  • @Fluxuation
    @Fluxuation 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FINALLY!! Someone who realizes that bonk isn’t bad! I have no clue what everyone was thinking when saying it’s bad. Having on-demand invincibility is INSANE, no matter what class it’s on.

  • @HapLord
    @HapLord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think anyone is complaining about this, but if you have a presistant enemy that can cover the same distance as you (soldier, demo, pyro with the thrusters, or another scout), the atomizer can help you take paths that the enemy either can't take as quickly or can't take at all.
    Even though you are invinicble, its better to take flanks and not be seen. If your running past a hold, you should try to run and lose who ever may be chasing you, by losing line of sight with flank routes.
    Also, plan where you want to go before drinking the bonk. Running into a dead end is a result of poor planning and will get you killed. You have think more like a dead ringer spy who just used his dead ringer.
    Finally, Im very happy that someone has talk about the bonk and of how good it can be. Your using the bonk to flank and to be a lethal distraction, or to make more risky plays with a get out of jail card.
    I love your videos fsoas!

  • @Matheus-gc5fn
    @Matheus-gc5fn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok, altough it did not laughed out loud (wait-) i still wasn't expecting the "like father like son" joke

  • @VagueCastle649
    @VagueCastle649 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it's because Bonk's reputation is tarnished a bit by noobish scouts who run face first into the enemy, get pinned to the air by a sentry, die, and repeat.
    But this is like saying disguises are bad because noobish spies disguise as scout before running straight into the enemy team.

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love when scout drinks bonk and says "It's bonkin' time!" and starts bonking all over the place.

  • @sophiegrey9576
    @sophiegrey9576 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're going to have a hard time convincing me that this can of-
    "It even has its own theme song! "
    okay never mind i'm sold

    • @sophiegrey9576
      @sophiegrey9576 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      on a more serious route i kinda saw the "use it like a dead ringer/GOJF" thing coming and, man, that changes bonk from bad to criminally boring to me

  • @tugazu
    @tugazu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:46 You forgot to mention that it takes time for the bonk to kick in that being 1.2 seconds

    • @elecman748
      @elecman748 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, 1.2 seconds might be a death sentence for the class with the lowest HP in the game.
      Hell, I don't remember the last time a scout survived when they tried to use bonk

  • @crissis3263
    @crissis3263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would give it just one change. Make it heal you to full, or maybe just 50%. So you steal less health packs, and pull new players towards using it ass an escape tool

  • @crazybunnyproductions7287
    @crazybunnyproductions7287 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite use of Bonk is the Door Scout.
    Enemy Team pushing the choke? Door Scout. Newbie scout bumrushing intel? Close the door on'em. Medic popping uber to escape? What escape?
    You are the door, and for the next 8 seconds... you are stuck.

  • @mrbooboostankReal
    @mrbooboostankReal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pairs well with the BFB as you maintain boost when hit while bonked. Makes Bonk a good choice in payload situations with cramped/blocked flanks

  • @phone_gal
    @phone_gal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "woah ive never thought of the bonk that way, what a good video with a great end card- is that a leoplurodon.

  • @typhoon1575
    @typhoon1575 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yknow.
    It's because of these videos that I now run bonk and sandman on my scout.
    You helped me find their use cases.
    Bonk to escape.
    Sandman to slow down enemies to compensate for my bad aim

  • @koopatroopa7968
    @koopatroopa7968 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You could use both the SoaS alongside the Bonk! in a few niche situations;
    *encountering a Pybro alongside a sentry. (Keep in mind that you can't exactly see what's in every room in third person, and they might have been hiding in a corner you couldn't see)
    *not being able to get away from a Pyro that has a mobility secondary (Detonator, Scorch Shot, Thermal Thruster)
    *surprise Cow-Mangler brigade
    (These are just the few examples that I could think of.)

  • @booyah344
    @booyah344 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every Halloween on soulmill when spies stand at the underworld gate to get free backstabs, I'm reminded this item exists.

  • @ArkosMan
    @ArkosMan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That fallout: new vegas reference at the end was amazing! xD Got to love Festus and Sunset Sarsaparilla

  • @FairPlayClubChads
    @FairPlayClubChads 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finnaly🙌
    Legend says bonk drinker is still drinking to this day