Cheating in Competitive TF2 Leagues

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  • As Team Fortress 2 grows older, with more bugs and exploits showing up, the community-ran leagues tighten their rules and regulations.
    Support on Patreon: / solarlight
    Discord server: / discord
    Twitter: / tf2solarlight
    Chapters:
    0:00 - Bots (in Casual Mode)
    2:07 - Exploits
    7:58 - Classes
    10:54 - Banned Mods
    14:30 - This game's a disaster
    Music: pastebin.com/rgVwHcTj
    I don't condone the use of cheats, or the use of any exploit that could be classed as cheating. My hope is that with increased awareness of these exploits, the TF2 community can submit fixes onto the TF2 workshop for Valve to consider.
    If your goal is to use these exploits in Casual mode, especially the more severe ones, you'd honestly be better off using actual hacks. Hackers are banned so infrequently (by Valve) that a lot of cheaters are running around with inventories full of unusuals, confident that they'll never lose access to them. The only time hacking has any real risk is when venturing into competitive, which is where these exploits suddenly have more use.
    Furthermore, these exploits are already public. A certain other TH-camr would have eventually posted about these.
    Despite my joke at the end of the video, Valve is actually starting to add community fixes into the game. It just didn't happen in the summer update itself, which surprised a lot of people.
    Subtitles were made by yours truly.
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  • @SolarLight
    @SolarLight  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1626

    On an unrelated note, we have just started a 100 player Medieval server. I'm planning on doing a quick video talking about how well it goes.
    If you want to join the 50v50 swordfighting, join the Discord at:
    discord.gg/SolarLight

    • @youngthinker1
      @youngthinker1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      100 Melee mode is the new best mode

    • @_dinnerbox
      @_dinnerbox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Imagine just 50 Demoknights which is commanding by Solar and Fat magic commanding 50 snipers using Huntsman xD, wait right?

    • @jasonbrody6837
      @jasonbrody6837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make wummer update video!!!

    • @mroostache
      @mroostache 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES

    • @Technobridger
      @Technobridger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      M

  • @JackScavs
    @JackScavs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5963

    Now I don't have to blame myself for being a bad spy and just assume everyone else is cheating

    • @loverofstars5676
      @loverofstars5676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +220

      ya man should've just stopped your opponent from abusing cheats L spy get good

    • @O5MO
      @O5MO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      But in all seriousness, Crit and Minicrit particles dont disappear for a while even if you are cloaked. If you have been healed by an enemy vaccinator, the icon above your head may persist until you switch classes, and in general a lot of effects in a non modified game can show your position. Not to mention spawning wallhacks, but those are disabled in competitive.

    • @eliescobis9922
      @eliescobis9922 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      let's be real everyone in this game cheats regardless so better safe than sorry

    • @yourdemiseishere
      @yourdemiseishere 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just hold out your knife.

    • @munchythetf2fan
      @munchythetf2fan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@O5MO it once happened to me with the vaccinator thing an enemy spy just kept dying to me cuz of that bug, its kinda sad but funny at the same time

  • @Mcskill
    @Mcskill 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2043

    Back on etf2l we had a really stupid strat. Run a heavy and spy disguised as friendly heavy, then while the other team is typing about us breaking the rules you just win the push 😂

    • @danielbailey2937
      @danielbailey2937 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +351

      this is such a gigabrain play haha

    • @haxyie
      @haxyie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      lmfaoooooo

    • @evanever
      @evanever 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      that's awesome

    •  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Gold gameplay.

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Could you explain this further? How was it a strategy

  • @ElliotKingStuff
    @ElliotKingStuff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2647

    This video has taught so many people how to cheat in a pseudo-legitimate way. On one hand, that'll hopefully result in fixes, on the other hand the game is gonna be wacky as all hell for those who choose to abuse it

    • @theowainwright7406
      @theowainwright7406 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

      Ahahahahahahahah ‘hopefully this results in fixes’. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

    • @apple-de8tx
      @apple-de8tx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

      I remember delfy used to get shit on for spreading map exploits lol

    • @PlagueDoctor-87
      @PlagueDoctor-87 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      I'm here for the Banana explosion effect. That sh*t is hilarious

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

      Valve has had a strange pattern of fixing problems a bit after Shounic highlights them in a video, so hopefully that pattern extends to this.

    • @kuba4ful
      @kuba4ful 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      On the other hand it actually made me interested in getting some particle mods, like the banana one showed in the video lmao

  • @bernardmontgomery8645
    @bernardmontgomery8645 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +531

    Fun fact:
    At 1:19 in the list of "cheaters" banned by the Anti-Cheat team there is at least one non-cheating player. That player is the guy in last place - fidus. He got banned circa a month ago for WH and as proof there is a SINGLE clip that could be summarised as:
    The map is KOTH Viaduct. There are 4 people in the clip, our "cheater" (pyro), his medic and heavy and the accuser (enemy spy). Spy is on top of the sniper cliff with the remaining three bellow it. They have no idea spy is there. Pyro is looking slightly up checking the ridge of the cliff, he sees nothing so he turns around to spycheck. There is noone behind him so he turns back to see the accuser disguised as a teammate jumping from the cliff towards our pyro (not to the health pack, rather directly at pyro's head while turning mid air). As anyone would do he presses M1, then he panic airblasts the spy into his own medic. The medic gets stabbed and spy runs away. End of the clip.
    One more note, the clip itself was recorded while inspecting the replay and we can hear audio of poeple inspecting it, we havetwo guys there the accuser and the Anti-Cheat team member. And I ALMOST feel sorry for the poor guy, cause the accuser is screaming into his ear that this is "ONE HUNDRED % PROOF THAT PYRO HAS WH! THERE IS NO WAY HE KNEW I WAS THERE! HOW DID HE KNOW IT WAS ME! HE HAS WALLS!" (you know the classic lines).
    As I said I almost felt bad for the admin. But like c'mon you're supposed to be good at spotting cheaters. First there was nothing wrong with the clip and second a single clip like this is nowhere near enough evidence to ban someone.
    Anyways thanks for reading all of this. I'm not trying to say that all banned people are innocent, just that banned does not mean 100% guilty. After all the ETF2L admins are just normal people like us. And everyone makes mistakes.

    • @Starlit_Juno
      @Starlit_Juno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      I ain't reading allat
      I'm happy for you
      Or sorry that it happened

    • @maxhadanidea
      @maxhadanidea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

      @@Starlit_Juno why did you even reply then

    • @diming7616
      @diming7616 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

      @@Starlit_Juno I hope this notification 3 months later slightly annoys you

    • @Stewie_eating_Heisenburger
      @Stewie_eating_Heisenburger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@maxhadanideaLike he said, he ain't reading allat

    • @simonnachreiner8380
      @simonnachreiner8380 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      I’m always sused out when a spy calls cheats. Like dude you’re playing spy sometimes you just get fucked.

  • @ninthfloor
    @ninthfloor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +423

    i remember back in, like, the early 2010s there was this one guy on tftv/ugc who was absolutely 1000% convinced one of the best snipers in highlander was cheating. like constantly accused them of it with increasingly shoddy reasoning. this eventually expanded to him accusing so many snipers of cheating that people felt bad for the people that *weren't* accused lol

    • @antusFireNova64
      @antusFireNova64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      If you get accused of cheating while you weren't, in a way it's a compliment

    • @lPuffalo
      @lPuffalo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are you referring to Axiomatic?

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​​@@antusFireNova64it is such an ego boost 😂
      Especially since im mid-tier to trash in most competitive modes

    • @Hildreth1101
      @Hildreth1101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      M4risa? I remember

  • @TheDandyChap
    @TheDandyChap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +329

    Wow, this takes me back. I used to be a bug hunter on TF2 near to the game's launch because I had experience modding source engine games from CS:S. I found a lot of these issues and pointed them out to Valve hoping they would update either the game *or* their engine, under the assumption that they would still make competitive games in Source, and god forbid they be inherited into Source 2. Instead, I equipped a bunch of cheaters with easily executed and unbannable cheats. :(
    Excellent deep dive though! Great video. :)

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      You were inadvertently the villain while trying to be the hero.

    • @simonnachreiner8380
      @simonnachreiner8380 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      This is a joke and I’m just taking the piss. That out of the way.
      “Nice job Oppenheimer, I’ll see you in hell”

    • @TheDandyChap
      @TheDandyChap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simonnachreiner8380 Lmao. I would have felt worse if people hadn't already discovered "$nocash" placed in the game's .vmt (material) files renders objects and players through walls (an exploit that was always known on the Source engine, even before TF2, so NO clue why it was never patched), but at least that problem was correctable with the sv_pure setting. For some reason cheaters focused on making injections to bypass sv_pure instead of doing the thing that took even less effort and brainpower, which was modifying other folders. Still, a pox on my house, I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @FenexDragonis
      @FenexDragonis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Valve just hopes someone like you or me eventually gets sick of their apathy and creates the fix for them..
      Funny thing is, fixes exist for many exploitable issues, but the creators refuse to submit them to valve, out of protest of what they have turned the game into over the last decade

    • @matiasenriquemaldonadoruiz5216
      @matiasenriquemaldonadoruiz5216 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Like the guy who created dynamite to help miners yet made a killer weapon lol

  • @sleepy1066
    @sleepy1066 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +327

    Ive talked to quite a few competitive players who ended up closet cheating, usually its because of this one major reason, and i quote one of them : *"after a certain point you become so good that you barely see any improvements anymore which really demotivated me because i thought i was never gonna get better"*
    Its basically like muscle growth when you start going to the gym or doing sports, first year or two you see alot of progress but as you continue to improve you start seeing it less and less, which to someone who enjoyed seeing rapid improvement can be mentally draining, so they tend to go to a more "darker" route, whether in tf2 with cheating or steroids in the gym.
    *this does not however excuse cheating in any shape or form*

    • @thataintfalco7106
      @thataintfalco7106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Imagine feeling that insecure

    • @zerefoex
      @zerefoex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "Darker route" BAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE A CIVILIAN!

    • @sleepy1066
      @sleepy1066 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@zerefoex you good bro?

    • @zerefoex
      @zerefoex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sleepy1066 ye u civi. I am a marine you subhuman.

    • @SioxerNikita
      @SioxerNikita 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@thataintfalco7106 Feeling that insecure?
      Imagine that most people are quite insecure in their life, but you still always have room for improvement... you are now at the top of your game, you wont really be better... that sucks...

  • @indecency7631
    @indecency7631 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +355

    did not expect to see my crosshair get clowned at 11:33, ITS GOOD OKAY

    • @free_playstation_2
      @free_playstation_2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      naw

    • @WiseMysticalTree81
      @WiseMysticalTree81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Sure chief

    • @Rodrigo-kq3js
      @Rodrigo-kq3js 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      shitass

    • @lightningkitten
      @lightningkitten 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      you could fit like 9 crosshairs inside it dude

    • @absoultethings4213
      @absoultethings4213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well why the fuck is it PURPLE then its ugly as hell!!!

  • @crimsonray9414
    @crimsonray9414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +482

    An Uncle Dane and SolarLight video in the same day, must be Christmas

    • @RickTests
      @RickTests 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      indeed

    • @Innuya
      @Innuya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And both videos in non-standard formats!

    • @Renorick1
      @Renorick1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      "It's like Christmas mornin'."

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or Smissmas

    • @PoshBeard
      @PoshBeard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Uncle dane did an unboxing video. I would hardly call that contemt

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1097

    Does feel crazy that even the highly skilled players would go down that road of cheating that I’m not surprised that some people get accused of hacking because of this

    • @MrDarkcrap
      @MrDarkcrap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Bruh do you even sleep

    • @Bnvnu
      @Bnvnu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      it's in fact more likely the more skilled you are, at some point you get frustated by the time it takes to make a miniscule gain, that almost becomes based on chance, so you cheat

    • @The-Random-fool1697
      @The-Random-fool1697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      “Crazy I was cr-“ nuh hu get out of my head

    • @tav_ish
      @tav_ish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hello good sir.

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@Bnvnu "speedrunners don't cheat to get a fast run, they cheat to get a fast run faster"

  • @bonafikam
    @bonafikam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1396

    Every day third party comp gets mentioned is a good day

    • @TFNCP
      @TFNCP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      third party comp is a cesspool

    • @ozone_au
      @ozone_au 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@TFNCP not really tbh

    • @lilthreadd
      @lilthreadd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@ozone_au tf2center is horrible but everything else is quite good

    • @phuroon
      @phuroon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lilthreadd if u r from eu and que into zack lobby thats where shit gets rough

    • @TFNCP
      @TFNCP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ozone_au you're au right? ozfortress fucking sucks

  • @crackdog1914
    @crackdog1914 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    I just wanna say, thank you for the amazing subtitles! I love how there are different words in bold, italic and in different colors. Makes the video feel like you put even *more* effort into it.

    • @lunarrity
      @lunarrity 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      really, it was helpful to just read instead of following the words when i'm in bed, eating, or just dont feel like listening

    • @patrlim
      @patrlim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i thought they were baked into the video, theyre actually youtube's subtitles

    • @VsAngeel
      @VsAngeel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It helped me a lot im actually blind but it made me read better

    • @finmin2k
      @finmin2k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@patrlim no they are not, these are so very clearly custom made ones

    • @patrlim
      @patrlim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@finmin2k what I meant was they are made using TH-cam's subtitle tools.

  • @uranusuranus144
    @uranusuranus144 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Im sorry but this 13:14 part of the video had me dying. My humour is so broken for laughing at the spy radiating fart shockwaves with the fart sound effect

    • @menofmayhemmm
      @menofmayhemmm 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the Banned sticker is also cherry on the top.

  • @ShayyTV
    @ShayyTV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    8:03 oh my god this got a great laugh out of me
    great video as always! your editing has only gotten better and better

    • @vastunliking3817
      @vastunliking3817 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      oh hi shayy

    • @absoultethings4213
      @absoultethings4213 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      since you already did undertale while cheating, do undertale as a demoknight

    • @mikubrot
      @mikubrot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      shayy undertale???

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    i'm gonna be honest, I think Phlog cancelling should count as tech rather than cheating. I know it's not a popular sentiment since everyone kinda hates the phlog but in a competitive environment I think it's a cool edge to a weapon that'd only really come out in hyper aggressive situations.

    • @EzekiesAcheron
      @EzekiesAcheron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Yeah most of these aren't really cheating, just a creative use of game mechanics.
      (Obviously the shit like editing game files is cheating. I just mean like the upward resupply through walls thing.)

    • @FletcherGoo
      @FletcherGoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@EzekiesAcheronMechanics implies its intentional. Abusing a bug is accurate.

    • @spectacledman
      @spectacledman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@FletcherGoothis is not a bug; the game is behaving exactly as it is supposed to in this circumstance.

    • @Bean41
      @Bean41 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@spectacledman
      I’d tend to call this an exploit, though kinda agree that it should be allowed because the Pyro must
      A: Deal 300 fire damage
      B: Get into a position above an enemy player or use the Thermal Thruster to get onto a part of map geometry (if there’s any on the map)
      If the Pyro uses the Thruster then they must deal 300 damage without a damaging secondary and if they use a flare gun then they must get above the enemy with positioning or a Det jump, both of which will likely just result in death. Lets be honest if a Pyro pull off a successful cancel the enemy team probably wasn’t paying attention and will get punished accordingly.

    • @asadi145
      @asadi145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Bean41respond to my comment with "no you 😎" to say that your gay

  • @RoundusMongus
    @RoundusMongus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    6:53 This can also be done without the exploit by using an infinitely looping taunt.

    • @twpsyn
      @twpsyn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      which is why most of them are also banned on comp item whitelists too

    • @AnAshenSpirit
      @AnAshenSpirit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@twpsyn they are banned cause you can see around walls in third person which makes them objectively pay to win this is a niche application

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, even SoundSmith brings it up

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@twpsyn To be honest, it's kinda stupid over the Beggar's Bazooka exploit, because that honestly jidt serves as another way to force comp players into running extremely specific weapon loadouts (namely, stock rocket launcher for Soldier)

  • @scuot666
    @scuot666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    13:11 best part😂

  • @SyToX
    @SyToX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I always suspected that people modified the decloak sound, but never bothered to look it up if it was possible. Some people do a sudden 180 even if you decloak a mile away from them, during a chaotic team battle, and some snap a 180 as you're approaching them.

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      That is normal if the spy is active
      Players memorize the time it takes for the spy to arrive from spawn, and once it could be possibly around they start checking often

    • @rainchopper898
      @rainchopper898 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same feels here.

    • @thatcampingmann9543
      @thatcampingmann9543 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is also a script that turns you 180 pulls out your melee and holds down mouse one and when you impress it it snaps you back to where you where looking

  • @DeletedTaters001
    @DeletedTaters001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    10:14 honestly though, this is just geometry.
    What if you crouch peek an angle? This one seems really easy to do accidentally.
    Good to see RGL is smart enough to realize this.

    • @autocorrect5456
      @autocorrect5456 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      when people are corner sniping it's very clearly intentional and it forces the other sniper to peek with a charge. sniper is garbage and should be banned anyways because highlander overemphasizes the class way too much. btw rgl allows rampant cheating anyway. extremely blatant aimbots and the sort that go unpunished, but if you say a bad meanie word then you're done.

  • @BlackHole22410
    @BlackHole22410 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I need more videos of people explaining to me the rules of tf2 comp like this, this was way too comforting to watch.
    Danke mate.

  • @Casual_PKBeats
    @Casual_PKBeats 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Ever since I heard about ETF2L banning the market gardener and loch n load I've been kinda put off by them LOL, but this is a really interesting video, it's great to hear about these types of rules that you don't see often. The sniper one was a new one for me, too! I don't have too much experience in competitive, but it's nice to see a lot of things like this explained. Lord knows third party competitive could use more videos on it in general. Great vid!

    • @BloneFGC
      @BloneFGC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did that due to how:
      1. In 6s it's an easy 1 tap tool to drop med during sac waves. (Sac waves aka a planned out wave of usually ths solly and demo jumping in. In 6s it's mainly always the med bu in HL it can be engies gun,sniper or med mostly, mainly latter to former.)
      Idk for the loch n load but it's prob for good reason tbh idk.

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@BloneFGC it's such a good ban reason, both of these bans are EU exclusive. oh did u know eu has the lowest level of 6s when looking at the highest level? they get owned by all other regions. but yeah their choice to ban the MG and lnl is obviously the right move... 🤡

    • @ryvn_ryvn_18
      @ryvn_ryvn_18 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BloneFGC loch n load allows demo to pipe shit from really far away (such as the enemy medic) and in very non committal positions which makes it really annoying. the reduced clip and lack of rollers are definitely downsides but the fact that it's less enjoyable to play against is enough for eu to ban stuff. but i'd say that the case for banning/unbanning the mg and loch are both really divisive esp since rgl allows both weapons still

    • @largin386
      @largin386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ryvn_ryvn_18 why is the direct hit ok then?

    • @ryvn_ryvn_18
      @ryvn_ryvn_18 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@largin386 direct hit requires more skill to use and you lose splash damage, which is essential to soldier's kit. you need to hit a direct when you use pipes anyway so it doesn't change much when it comes to the loch

  • @LuckyAceCard
    @LuckyAceCard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Kind of related, but I honestly have developed such huge trust issues with gaming now when it comes to cheating. Over the past 5 years, a solid 30-40 % of my friends ended up cheating in some way in games whether its through clients, ghosting, etc. I don’t understand it at all and I hate it.

    • @Dap1ssmonk
      @Dap1ssmonk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds like you jsut have bad taste in friends. I think I’ve had one “friend” ever cheat and he wasn’t even a friend, jsut a guy we traded with who turned out to be cheating when we tried to get him in the group.

  • @Bossatron9000
    @Bossatron9000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    As a spy main i felt my soul leave my body during this section 12:59

  • @EvelliosE
    @EvelliosE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cheating in tf2 has always been a strange case to me

  • @acee555
    @acee555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Great video, I absolutely love the custom captions. Such love, effort, and creativity put into a thing no one will ever see. Thank you!

  • @mixamasl
    @mixamasl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    0:06 That transition.🤣

  • @maxie3022
    @maxie3022 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    the retry thing got banned because people started using it to just go back to spawn when too many people would chase you behind in pugs 🔥

    • @maxie3022
      @maxie3022 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It spread to scrims after as well

  • @theclown2257
    @theclown2257 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    If you use the box trot taunt the bots have a harder time killing you. Fitting that metal gear taunt helps you sneak around them.

  • @Breadn
    @Breadn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    thank you demoknight guy for niche cheating scenarios tutorial

  • @heyitsmeobama4335
    @heyitsmeobama4335 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Solid ass video, especially since I’m not a TF2 player, but I find the overall game and community very interesting.
    Also wanted to compliment the closed captions- it’s ABUNDANTLY clear you put in a lot of effort, the highlighted words and different colors and the opacity being toggled between certain shots, so no important info is blocked.
    I think you’re one of, if not the only, TH-camr I’ve seen fully utilize the captions like this. Small details but very impressive and respectable.

  • @tappajaav
    @tappajaav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Nice showcase.
    Hilarious how large advantages can be gained through editing the TF2 files

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yeah really 'funny' how casual will be full of ppl with game modifications, record demoname; stop binds and all of these other ways to cheat for free

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tf_lecter First of all you're overestimating how many players actually want to spend the effort to get ahead others
      - and second, yes, it is HILARIOUS that the developers allow so much purely through customization.

  • @asckey
    @asckey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I think whenever the player count spikes up, it's generally a good thing because that gives a lesser chance that a new player sees bots, and quits the game right then and there.

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I didn't really get why skilled players would take up cheating, just to see what it was like, whatever. But now that i see how easy it is to do some of these to gain a slight edge i get it. Just isn't worth having that label above your head if you get caught.

    • @admiraltonydawning3847
      @admiraltonydawning3847 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They get frustrated at not being able to pull something off despite being already skilled, so they shortcut.

    • @tomp-f9543
      @tomp-f9543 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They also do it because they feel pressured by team members / viewers to perform well

    • @jty9631
      @jty9631 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It really isnt easy to cheat in leagues, skilled players can see it easily. Bans get served liberally.

    • @ilmel1381
      @ilmel1381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The answer is obvious, I will personally answer for myself 1:20 (ilmel), I got tired of the game and started resorting to third-party software, outside of official matches I just played and enjoyed the process, no more than I got a lock - a kind of vacation for several years to clear my head of junk and burnout.

  • @brennencramer2497
    @brennencramer2497 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just wanted to comment for "engagement" and to thank you for the work you did on the subtitles. I am not hard of hearing, but some people put fun stuff in there and you most certainly did.

  • @sgas
    @sgas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I so appreciate the caption edits and captioning everything

  • @SkyTied
    @SkyTied 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Even as someone who's pretty much never played this game in my life this video was super interesting, keep it up dude!

    • @iminumst7827
      @iminumst7827 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      play the game more :)

    • @SkyTied
      @SkyTied 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iminumst7827 I should definitely

  • @miltaire3235
    @miltaire3235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I remember over half a decade ago I had some of those exploit mods as a kid. One that removed the scope model from the sniper along with the black area when scoped in and another that replaced the spy decloak with the "surprise buttsecks" meme. Hell my entire game was almost unrecognizable because of the many skin mods I had from gamebanana.
    It didn't seem like much at the time, but that extra information was actually so OP. The spy decloak in particular because out of nowhere you'd just hear that stupid meme in the background alerting you of where the spy was.

    • @WiseMysticalTree81
      @WiseMysticalTree81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Casually playing the game
      "Surprise buttsecks!"
      Turns around and kills spy because of a shitpost

  • @DreamGuyKk
    @DreamGuyKk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The captions are well done, good job!

  • @jeffboy4231
    @jeffboy4231 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i just wanna say i appreciate these captions! they are really awesome

  • @Travingel
    @Travingel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    the ipad exploit is a bit hilarious, but mostly because i see it used in friendly servers or vs hale.
    but i would be miffed to see it in an actual match to hide information that would help me estimate and predict someones next action.
    great video!

  • @champion99999
    @champion99999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    bro really taught us how to cheat

  • @arcadiatf2
    @arcadiatf2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    great video! happy to answer your questions 😀

  • @leoergen766
    @leoergen766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    3:41 this is beyond spaghetti, this is fettuccini.

  • @ihazsucks
    @ihazsucks 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    appreciate the hand-made subtitles. they are more readable than youtube's automated garbage

  • @blubberking100
    @blubberking100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    For the sniper part, You can still hit the head hitbox but it becomes extremely thin. Basicly if they are able to still hit you, you can still hit them, its just a much harder shot.

  • @themomorain
    @themomorain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a fellow neighbour of yours beeing a cs player I really enjoyed to watch this video! Man people are so nerdy figuring all this stuff out I love it! :)
    Of cause not cheats or all the exploits but when something creative is beeing found.

  • @jackdaniels4547
    @jackdaniels4547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    epic editing and humor. loved the video!

  • @jkdontjudgeme
    @jkdontjudgeme 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    12:34
    "These explosion mods are actually pretty cool"
    Yes, sir. The Michael Bay Mod is still my favorite. ;)

  • @SpinosaurusStudios_
    @SpinosaurusStudios_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    11:04 you made the mod get taken down, why solar why

    • @AAAsFr
      @AAAsFr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is there any archive or any alternative way to install it? Asking for a friend

  • @kittentrucker7353
    @kittentrucker7353 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, i have Closed Captions on and you put a lot of effort into those.

  • @datboiJan
    @datboiJan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loving this new video style of yours!

  • @Bone_Incidents
    @Bone_Incidents 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Now I can set the spy decloak sound to the Fallout 3 version of the Mysterious Stranger appearing sound.

  • @puzzlepuddles6712
    @puzzlepuddles6712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    11:31 one of the most iconic screams in tf2 competitive

  • @Tuii
    @Tuii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the Pokemon Gale of Darkness music!
    Great video, now i can break every competitive rule at once!

  • @aydanwong7208
    @aydanwong7208 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My goodness both the vid and the subtitles are amazing

  • @CobaltIngot
    @CobaltIngot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Wonderful video! Really love the editing, pacing, visuals, etc on this one.
    Although I'd like to say that the majority of community fixes don't get added because they either:
    -don't actually have any code, it's just a suggestion/concept
    -the code is not their own
    -the code is not well written
    -the code may cause regression bugs AKA, bugs caused by fixing another bug, which is rather common for TF2

    • @chairwood
      @chairwood 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      r u the same cobalt as Eliana rivals

    • @CobaltIngot
      @CobaltIngot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chairwood yea

  • @alface935
    @alface935 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    13:30 That was a Jumpscare of a Joke

  • @sasadw95
    @sasadw95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the awesome subtitles.

  • @The_Burber
    @The_Burber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Valve just needs to file a lawsuit against bot hosters.

  • @MidnightFlight378
    @MidnightFlight378 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well... Not playing spy for a month after this video for sure. Casual lobbies will be nightmare.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This game truly is held together by globs of chewed bubble gum, Elmer’s glue, scotch tape, and morally grey intentions.

  • @abdul.rawi215
    @abdul.rawi215 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:14 i love how you almost broke down after that joke

  • @theoneandonlybananafrom1776
    @theoneandonlybananafrom1776 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hahaha you put moist critical right after he mentioned jesus. Absolutely amazing video!

  • @apple-de8tx
    @apple-de8tx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    BAHAHAHA 11:12 iconic

    • @lmno567
      @lmno567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But I thought it was all in le head?

  • @adrad
    @adrad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for reminding me of the Instant Uber Bug video. Had to rewatch it. A classic.

  • @driprappy
    @driprappy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your editing style is becoming the AsumSaus of TF2. It’s beautiful.

  • @Fatmagic
    @Fatmagic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    1:21 lmaooo I bumped into that imperator guy a bunch a few years back and he got sooo damn salty at my presence every single time even if I was barely doing anything. I was able to keep up to him as Sniper too so if he was cheating then, then that is a fucking RIP haha

  • @TashiTheChildOfApollo
    @TashiTheChildOfApollo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love how every Tf2 TH-camr is dunking on Pyrocynical for using the fat mod so funny

  • @alsnana00
    @alsnana00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these subtitles are so good compared to the non-stop subtitles most youtubers/shorts use nowadays, thanks.

  • @bobatea4732
    @bobatea4732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job providing closed captions

  • @tomynaumann
    @tomynaumann 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for exposing the reverse quantum crouch solarlight, now everyone who tries it will find out that it only works very rarely and they'll just be feeding the engies all the kills 😂

  • @Kris-2
    @Kris-2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks for showing everyone how to do these exploits.... i'm sure people wont start doing them in casual now...

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      literally the most braindead video to have been released in years, but can u be surprised. ppl in csgo promote gambling to children bc it gets them traffic. no surprise tf2 mfs will trade the ability to play the game for clicks on their video

    • @zelbekon
      @zelbekon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blame Valve for not fixing them for so long.

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats a strawman argument and holds 0 ground@@zelbekon

    • @ThyBigCheddar
      @ThyBigCheddar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tf_lecter No it really isn't

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThyBigCheddar mfw u dont know what a logical fallacy is... ur literally shifting the blame to valve and off of the rats exploiting

  • @Superkidra
    @Superkidra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video c:
    also I wanna play that neon Pink team vs Green team tbh qwq

  • @zenn_dragon
    @zenn_dragon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That bangin' Goldeneye music outro. Wew.

  • @Myahster
    @Myahster 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    And it's because of this that people are learning how to update their mods to work on casual servers.
    It's actually pretty cool

  • @StormTrooperEX
    @StormTrooperEX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    7:50 so thats why bot can see invisible spys thats so annoying

    • @SolarLight
      @SolarLight  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Nah, the bots use something called ESP. After all, they're hacking. Don't need exploits if you're already hacking.

  • @kisaragi-hiu
    @kisaragi-hiu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yet again, your subtitles are god tier.

  • @GumMagnum
    @GumMagnum 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every day a solarlight video comes out is a good day

  • @funtimes9670
    @funtimes9670 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    8:30 Velocity and speed aren’t the same thing in real life either

  • @KingKayro87
    @KingKayro87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    8:23 Actually, they're building up speed. It's the velocity that doesn't change, because velocity is dependent on displacement. Because they're stationary, they aren't increasing their velocity, but because they're accelerating, they are increasing their speed.

  • @mp5_Puppy
    @mp5_Puppy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your subtitles are fucking amazing, thank you!

  • @Hildreth1101
    @Hildreth1101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazes me to see Comp TF2 still going over 15 years since it began, it isn't as strong a scene but there were legendary moments and great memories, this video also reflects how hard it is to be a moderator, specifically a Senior one / Anti-cheat one, some accuse them of being fairly strict but I do think it is necessary for the integrity of the game.

  • @DappyFroggy
    @DappyFroggy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The title is very interesting to me🗿

  • @TheSpokenBanana
    @TheSpokenBanana 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    8:14 that's real life logic too...

  • @leosensey7026
    @leosensey7026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i like how he changes the color of subtitles and moves them around

  • @the_duda
    @the_duda 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful subtitles Solar!

  • @Raelyn
    @Raelyn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Oh boy. While I do understand that exposure is how some of this stuff gets fixed (in theory), I can't say I'm excited to know this video will teach a lot more players how to install that Spy cloak sound exploit. It's already an incredibly hard to detect mod in the comp scene unless the player is being very obvious about it. Again, exposure is hopefully what will lead to it being fixed, I'm just dreading it being more commonplace.

    • @Spokenword
      @Spokenword 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Valve is entirely to blame. They had ample time to fix it.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Spokenword They still *HAVE* time to fix it, they just choose not to give a shit.

    • @Xx_SuperPenis_xX
      @Xx_SuperPenis_xX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like people who are willing to cheat would already know about this

    • @chost-059
      @chost-059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gatekeeping sound mods

    • @stitchfinger7678
      @stitchfinger7678 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@chost-059 its literal cheating

  • @uncledoggo
    @uncledoggo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    2:00 Your first mistake was using Twitter.

  • @Awhmanlol
    @Awhmanlol 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’re on of my favorite TH-camrs as of late. Keep up the good work Solar :)

  • @Local_Shower_Shitter
    @Local_Shower_Shitter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the closed captions were great!

  • @lPuffalo
    @lPuffalo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    13:22 Ah, the Roadkill! special

  • @OmegaCorsair
    @OmegaCorsair 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    2:30 i like exploits are gold in Subtitles

  • @qwke
    @qwke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    babe new solarlight banger dropped

  • @spartacusthememelord6890
    @spartacusthememelord6890 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very big fan of the Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness Music in the background. This pleases me greatly.

  • @Fluxuation
    @Fluxuation 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Can’t wait to see all these bugs in casual now that you made a video about it… hooray…

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      for real ppl who make content like this are the ones killing the game. and then they give strawmen arguments like "valve wouldnt do anything otherwise" when in reality, only 0.001% of ppl were in the know about these exploits before. but now, anyone and their mom knows abt it.. the lack of self-awareness on display is shameful, trading the game's overall playability for clicks. 0 integrity type beat. or so conceited that he thinks this will get anything fixed (it wont, u delusional)

    • @Fluxuation
      @Fluxuation 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tf_lecter bruh it was a joke

    • @unsmoshed8190
      @unsmoshed8190 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tf_lecter valve had 10 years to fix these issues

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats a strawman argument, it holds no weight@@unsmoshed8190

    • @rane7784
      @rane7784 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tf_lecter cry about it LMAO. Already got the mod for 5 days and whacking retard spies for my f2p engie teammates has never been this satisfying. COPE

  • @m_affiliates
    @m_affiliates 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    someone should start a league where all of this is fair game if it hasn't been made already

  • @chrysanthex
    @chrysanthex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the subtitles!

  • @furryy5100
    @furryy5100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't even know you can remove tunnel vision from sniper, thx solar 🎉

  • @s942
    @s942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Oh god. Casual boutta be crazy huh

    • @simpIeidiot
      @simpIeidiot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.

    • @uphillwalrus5164
      @uphillwalrus5164 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simpIeidiot hilarious and original