Octavia St. Laurent - trans model calls out Eddie Murphy & down low men!
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- Octavia St. Laurent - trans model calls out Eddie Murphy & down low men!
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I was just re-watching the 2005 documentary lol
Here's my question request on this video 📸⁉️❓📷: what did the great actor kenneth try to be a blond?
I wish you would’ve included the video of 2003 where she was talking at a college. She dropped sooo much tea in the video.
You should do one on Tracy Africa 💜💜💜 sn- I had the pleasure of meeting Octavia inside a dinner very sweet woman 💝
So SORRY… either you are male or female
The whole world is F-up trying to make you accept this BS
Nicole Murphy looks like Octavia
Great observation
💯 I thought the same. Octavia was Gorgeous 💖
True
Good eye !!!
Umm hmm!
It's been a poorly kept secret that Eddie has sugar in the tank for many years now !
Michael Jackson knew. Whatzupwitchu
No secret. We all saw it. There's pictures. It was in the news, flooding entertainment news. Front page. That's when he stopped acting and comedy until fairly recently.
Lol 😂
right u can look at how he dressed in delirous 2 see he was bisexual
No! We all know about Eddie, well people my age. Another to look out for is LL. Cool J.
I remember that Eddie Murphy scandal. I think some of us were shocked and, of course, the excuse he gave no one believed it.
Being shocked about anything that happens in Hollyweird tells me people still idolize celebrities. They’re just human beings
That was the funniest excuse lmao
@@natashka1982I wasn’t born when this went down, what did he say??
@@slurpee4203 literally said he goes out at 4am and gives money to hookers to help them as charity
Oh yeah, I remember that back them. Eddie gave ride to transgender I was very shocked. I said Eddie, Seem like sweep under the rug. Well Eddie Murphy denied 😂 back them.
I can see how she inspired so many characters in Pose -- especially Blanca. Thank you for sharing diverse and fascinating life stories. ❤
Oh yes 🙌🏼
Yes I see it
I loved Pose,
Yessss
And Candi…
The fact that Eddie made that "Boogie In Ya B*tt" song back in the day told me EVERYTHING I ever needed to know about his proclivities! How quickly we've been allowed to forget that!
Ha yes ma’am ! I remember that song Dr. Demento (DJ) would play that song quite a bit on radio it was funny to me when I was a little girl but now it makes a lot sense now that I decided to listen to this song again it was lot going on thanks for reminding me it made me laugh “Say Put me in your b*tt”. lol Now tbf this album was for a stand up comedy parody in his early career I remember owing a vhs tape (my mother loved her some Edwina) but you know what they say ‘there’s a grain of truth in every joke’👀.
"Nocturnal Philanthropist" sounds like a euphemism all by itself. 😮
😂 And no one has come out and said a damn thing about his Good Samaritan deeds. Ever. Not ever. 😑
She took all the abuse and mistreatment and called it out. Kudos
*he*. Stop be delusional
HE
She didn't expose anybody. Eddie's arrest was national news
Sure was
International news! News reach the U.K. It was big news here in London at time and we still talk about it. No one here believe Eddie story. And I still don't!
Sure was.... I was like 10 years old and that shit was on CNN!
Yup.. someone chasing clout again
Yes but they both added conflicting context. He said he was trapped. If you are right, she’s just injecting herself into a national news story. That ain’t much better..
Shalamar was murdered. I heard about this story back in the day when it happened. She was unalived to keep her quiet. So sad!
Eddie did that shyt.
@@datgurlky1no he didn’t! Are you serious?
@@datgurlky1yes!
I thought it was AIDS related...
WHO IS SHALAMAR
Eddie never looked the camera in the eye. He kept his head moving while talking 🤥
Some Pinocchio ish 🤥🤣
This is why Eddie is engaged to Paige. They'll probably be together for the balance of their lives because her type is more tolerant of his orientation.
I agree ! I know alot of down low men with women like her !
My thoughts exactly. Some even believe that BM with palm colored woman are DL.
🫢 riiight. That's probably why so many of them marry/date ...😮
Yall sound like scorned people. Lol,
When people ask what’s the secret to some long “successful” marriages some of their secret is turning a blind eye to their husband’s foolishness.
I remember walking up to Octavia in the early 90s at The Latex Ball and told her how beautiful she was. She gave me that warmest hug and wouldn’t let go. She was strikingly beautiful in person. Especially during that time. She was absolutely perfect. Continue to Rest In Peace Octavia. Thank you for Karine for shinning the spotlight on this Icon.
I’m glad she was honest about her true identity when ppl ask
Why does that make you “glad”?
@@Joie_totheworldbecause she lived in REALITY.
@@Joie_totheworld because with her being upfront, it gives whomever she might of had sexual relates with the opportunity to decide whether or not to deal with her like that. Transgender being dishonest or misleading has gotta many or then hurt or killed. Also it shows she wasn’t disillusioned by what she really was.
@@Joie_totheworldAnd people can accept her without lying to themselves she is a woman.
@@blkanv1502 if you look (GOOGLE) most of the cases of transgender women they were MURDERED BY MEN THAT KNEW WHO THEY WERE- just like in this video you just watched EDDIE KNEW and wanted it to just go away.Most of the time it’s NOT about the woman being honest it’s about these men not living in their truth and are willing to do ANYTHING to keep things 🤫
Some men love trans men but don't want nobody to know about it.
Those men are gay. 😅😅😅
Many men love Trans women but don't want nobody to know about it. Some men also love Trans men but don't want nobody to know about it. FIFY.
It's Trans women smh lol
Because they still want the straight label instead of bi.
You mean trans women
Nicole Murphy gives Ballroom Scene FACE, so Eddie has a type
Yep!!
Nicole does give I had the best surgeons and hormones.
I admire Octavia for living honestly and not deceiving anyone.
Exactly! May Octavia and all who rose to prominence in the gay ball culture who passed away rest in peace! Paris is Burning is a MUST see for the Black LGBTQ community. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️💐
@@danavixen6274 unless he repented. he will never rest in peace.
Octavia was absolutely beautiful
Stunning!
Looked like a hybrid of Lynn Whitfield meets Kimberly Russell. ❤
she was..
yes at least Octavia was honest with herself and not a hypocrite. That is commendable. We live in a cruel world where people with money will have people murdered...it is terrible!
A man dressing like a woman is not “honest”. And it’s HIMSELF not “HERSELF”.
It's a game for them...Murder by Numbers
He’s not honest with himself
So we gonna ignore how the news anchor sarcastically said that about Eddie Murphy… ok 🙃😂
That was Gayle King Oprah’s girlfriend
@@jamarkushudson6723I was just going to say!! Lmaoo
That was Oprah's Gayle.
Gayle knows some things... 👀
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Eddie Murphy is bisexual. Don’t forget they are on the down-low too. Thank you for talking about Octavia in a beautiful light.
Ok and why do you care?
@@AnAdorableWombat1because he pretends that he’s not!
@@stephi6792 Exactly. He has gone OUT OF HIS WAY to make fun of gay people, and he is clearly gay himself and falls under LGBTQ. Murphy just isn't brave enough to admit it.
That's why I Eddie Murphy had all those kids to prove that he's not gay😂😂😂😂 but I think he loves men also we have to remember he let Johnny Gill stay on his couch for a couple of years there and we all know Johnny Gill don't have no kids, no wife,no girlfriend 🤗🤗🤔
You shouldnt accuse anybody for being perverted, what if he spoke the truth.
I lived in LA in the early 90’s. There was a club called Peanuts that had a Trans girl night. I had a friend who was mid-transition and it was from her that I found out about Eddie Murphy, long before it hit the tabloids. All the T-girls knew him. My friend also claimed to have dated Dolph Lundgren (not sure about that one) - it was well known that a whole lot of straight male celebrities were not as straight as they seemed or claimed to be. Glad that is now common knowledge
You found out from him
My ex coworker used to be a punk rocker on Hollywood Blvd. He and some buddies saw Eddie in a fancy red car, and Eddie invited them to get in a come over. My co workers gay friends went with him. They said he was really nice and paid well. That was in the 80’s 🤷🏾♀️
Not tryna be funny but there were some clips where Octavia looked crazy similar to Nicole Murphy.... Great video Karine. If I were famous and exceptional, I would want nobody but u to tell my story. U r pure GRACE N CLASS🙏🏾
I was thinking that but thought I was reaching.
@@Antilles86. shidd there r way worse people to look similar too!!! Lmao
She looks like Nicole but Octavia is actually prettier.
And oddly enough Nicole looks way more masculine than Octovia. I always felt that Eddie was attracted to Nicole because of her androgynous look. Seems like a lot of closeted gay men or bisexual men like an androgynous looking biological women. Just been my observation but I'm not the be all that ends all.
She lived in the wrong time, now she would be invited to the White House.
She was to real and not hypocrite to go to the white house.
@@malcrich8302like Blair white
Whew chile ... Not Gale King throwing major shade. 😂😂
most def!😂
That was before journalists were puppets!
I never clicked on a video so fast. I LOVE this channel. Didnt know about this diva, RIP Angel 👑
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@@KarineAlourde why won't you talk about B-dubs wearing bonnets house shoes tattoos nobody cares about this trans but you want to bash black men smh
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXXWhat? Lmao...secret lifestyles in comparison to bonnets? Did you think before you typed that sir?
@@ericaminnis4676 yes stop wearing bonnets and house shoes Keisha just another b-dub trying to say a black man is gay tear him down I'm so glad I avoid y'all Keishas 🤢🤮
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX ••• BOT ........??? 🤔🤔🤔
“Bitter” is always a word thrown around when a major violation has been committed. When we hear “bitter”, we should immediately start evaluating the situation for the truth, because someone is deflecting 😮
It sounds like Octavia may have been Intersex if her body was producing more estrogen despite being born male.
Right
He was assigned male by God in his mother's womb.
From earlier pictures when he was a child, it was apparent that he was a boy.
@@Kim-ze5gclooking like a boy doesn't make it obvious
@@Kim-ze5gc Did I say Octavia wasn’t? You can be born male and still be intersex. Dominique Jackson from the show Pose was born a male and started to develop as the opposite gender during puberty.
@@gitslover9834Exactly some people need to be educated that this is a thing. As well as being born a hermaphrodite. Some people are literally born with both, just like being born with other gene mutations that cause other things. It’s science…lol
Eddie had a Banana in his tailpipe😆
Whoa! Just in time for his Netflix Beverly Hills Cop sequel! SAVAGE! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Once Eddie said she likes to party all the time. I already knew he liked sugar.
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂bruhhh
😂😂😂😂
Thank you so much for this !!! Being a femqueen ( transwoman ) in the ballroom scene , it feels great to see one of our idols represented so nicely . Thank you ❤️❤️
"Nocturnal Philanthropist" lol! 🤣🤣💀💀
SHE IS CORRECT. DOESNT SHE LOOK LIKE...."NICOLE MURPHY?"💯💯💯💯💯
👀yesss
Eddie Murphy had trans girl friends in new york as well
I know! I remember and I have names. I used to go to Sound Factory. He was well known
Look at young Gayle King in that old news clip. Still feisty 😂
Exactly! 😂 The shade was real. 😂
😂
Just Messy asf! 😂
There ain’t no Kale without Okra Winfrey!
Eddie Murphy’s alleged DL ways were a poorly kept secret. Saint Laurent was on point about DL dudes.
DL?
@@cheriwynne8693 Down Low
I am not here to judge anyone but Ms Octavia St Laurent lived her life even though she was born a male,I may not know much about her but she had a fighting spirit within herself,she will be missed rest peacefully in heaven.
And she knew she wasn't a woman and that didn't stop her
@@sakuraesther6309THATS RIGHT SHE WAS NOT A WOMEN AND SHE WAS NOT A MEN SHE WAS A SPIRITUAL BEING LIVING IN A HUMANBODY AS A VEHICLE TO TRANSPORT IT AND BE A ACTIVIST AND A FIGHTER FOR THE GAYS RIGHTS AS A HUMAN BEING.ON THIS CRUEL JUDGMENTAL EARTH.
He was definitely male!@@josuetorres2394
I was just being a good Samaratan in that part of LA at that time in the morning ? Yeah right! 😂
Got him 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Up there looking stupid just be real 😂😂😂😂😂😂
13:11 Kale aka GAYLE always been messy 😂
I walked the Balls in tne 90's. Knew many on the scene. Beautiful people that welcomed me, non-trans, as they usually had 1 female-by-birth in their Houses. Eddie was known to have those secret desires (as did/do other celebrities and politicians, etc.). He was definitely responsible for that 'accident' that causedvthe demise of a trans perdon. Down-low guy, but so many are aware. Eddie spends his life pretending to be someone he isn't. I said what I said. Anyway, Octavia was beautiful, inside out. 🙏🏽🎉❤
You do know a majority of most men all they care about is sex. Woman cannot have sex with random partners like men, unless they’ve sadly been in certain circumstances. If eddie murphy like other celebrities paid services to trans because that is their job, then why mess up your bag outing them? If you watched pose, look at how once Elektra got bottom surgery, her high expensive male client cut her off and found someone different. You need to look into the shadow side of males. If i was a trans escort, i’d make my money and mind my business.
If u think of Eddie as 'down low' n therefore consider yourself a man.. then look n act like a man instead of embarrassing the rest of us
Thats why he got all those kids. Many DL men uses that as a disguise, to make then seem hetro. IMO
What was the accident?
I never knew about Octavia. Thanks for sharing.
Those pics of Eddie staring in the camera 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Octavia was absolutely gorgeous. Also I agree with you. If you can’t live in your truth, and are ashamed, don’t indulge in that lifestyle. Simple as that
I’m sorry they passed away, very beautiful person.
Oh so this is why Eddie suddenly started ranting about David spade being racist bc he called him a fallen star… this story has resurfaced. I guess he forgot about Tim meadows making fun of him when he said an snl star has never made fun of another snl 🤣
Yup
Frfr 😂
“…I’m not trying to be a woman, just BEAUTIFUL…” ❤
BS, he is trying to be a woman.
But lived her life as a woman
Lived "His" life.
@@efreeholdings1575 but you trolled and don’t have any respect
@@erinlevere6881 What are you talking about? You logically dont make any sense. I am not trolling. Im stating the reality not his or your delusions. That is a HIM. It is just like males and you pic mes to allow males to get away with disrespecting the feminine essence and our construct.
Rip Octavia , what a beautiful spirit
Yea let’s all just “be who we are” and see where that gets us. Follow his lead and you’ll find out.
@@d.c.5033 How did you get here? Watching this video. 🤡 live in your truth. Stop being miserable & hating.
@@d.c.5033cry shut up
@@d.c.5033You are so redundant.
Before I watch, Karine I want to thank you for bringing members of our community to your platform, especially my beautiful Trans-sisters. I really appreciate this. I also want to thank you being a mentor for me as well, and giving me as I like to put it “Big sis” talk lol. Love Ya✨
Aww you are so welcome! Everyone’s stories should be told without discrimination ❤❤
I roll with the house of extravaganza in NY, half of my friends were in the tv show Pose and Octavia was my best friends trans mother. Thank you so much for making this @KarineAlourde I’ll have to show them 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
Octavia was fearless so GORGEOUS! RIP💐
I love her comebacks & wisdom … I don’t worry about humans I worry about god now that is confidence
My mantra
He would've lived as a man if cared what God thought 🤔
@@imher2462right she/he sounded very confused
@@imher2462👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾‼️
@@Camerashy03whole community is confused. But GOD is NOT the Author of Confusion. So...who is behind All this confusion? Satan
Great deep dive, Karine 👏 You amazed me again....I forgot about Octavia! Thank you 😊
Glad you enjoyed it! 💖💖
@@KarineAlourdeI am completely hooked on your videos. I learn so much and your presentations are always very classy. I absolutely love your style 💖
She did not play💯💯💯💯
He.
@@charlotteziggy8353 SHE could take your man 😭
Powerful Story. God bless Octavia and Shalamar. R.I.P❤❤❤
I didn't know about this lady. Also, it's rumored Eddie and Johnny Gill had had a long relationship before during, and after his first marriage. JG lived in Eddie's guest house for a while too. I have always known about Eddie.
Not Johnny Gill!! 🙀
Only thing I remembered is when he got pulled over with a transformer. Just a couple months ago Im a big boxing fan a few boxers said Jonny Gill went down on Sugar Ray Leonard at a party.
July 3, 2024 - People TOTALLY forget that "Pebbles" aka Tracy Edmonds and Eddie were married. And were married VERY shortly. Tracy is the ex-wife of Babyface. Tracy divorced Eddie after only ONE WEEK of marriage because he still had Johnny Gill living in his back yard guest house after their marriage. Yep', Tracy heard the RUMORS about Eddie but he basically proved those rumors true as far as she was concerned, smh'. Tracy gave Eddie an ultimatum to move Johnny Gill out of their home. Of course, Eddie chose Johnny over his gorgeous wife Tracy at the time. Recently, a few months ago Tracy and Deion Sanders quietly ended their long-term relationship.
I remember seeing a picture of Eddie and Johnnie Gill, the vibe was very suspect..
@@801ToniBaby Yeppity', yep-yep, yep.. 👍🏼👀
Ha! I saw the thumbnail and thought it was Karyn White!
Wow, this story opened my eyes. I hope one day there will be less prejudices.
I love watching Paris is Burning. Octavia was definitely an icon ✨
Intersexed, it's more common than being trans, people just don't know biology does that too.
That’s a Lie!
@@G.G.276it’s true
@@G.G.276 It's fact, there are whole medical teams dealing with intersexed babies. And even then they don't always know how to designate the child. Intersexed children far outnumber visible trans people but they don't show it so people don't know about it.
The 1st 45 seconds though! Octavia was speaking facts on top of facts. 🙌🏾
HE is disrespectful to real women!!!
I'm offended !!!!!!!!!!
A man WITH extra!
You sound big mad or nor.
Are u trolling?
She was absolutely beautiful! I love your channel & the way you give the back story from the very beginning with context. You provide a wealth of info about your subjects! You're doing an excellent job utilizing your platform to educate & bring awareness ✨️♥️✨️♥️✨️
I was her neighbor and was in her house as little girl. She gave me a black & white autographed photo. She sang, taking my love to the limit. Lenox Road. Really.
2 the Limit was sung by Octavia Lambertis.
when im in need of self affirmations. im going to play this on repeat! you go Octavia!
To Octavia and all of the beautiful cast of Paris is burning ,alive and dead. I don’t think these people will ever know how iconic they are and were ,how much they changed so many lives. They truly were cultural heroes that created something so powerful and wonderful.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ from the moment I watched this documentary. All of their stories forever made Mark in the softest spot of my heart.
All of this is new info to me🍿🍿
Me.too
I like her sass… and I like how she accepts that she isn’t a real woman… in essence she was able to love herself as she was and not as a delusional fantasy. I respect people that live their life how they want but stay in reality. Good for her…. And by the way… always love your videos, always impressive how you really get to the nub of a person… respect from Australia 🇦🇺
I just really love how inclusive your channel is . I enjoy it & appreciate that you always cover different topics . Thank you so much for sharingg❤❤❤
How come trans women back in the day knew they were not biological women?
Because they weren't. The notion that you can change your gender is false, and utterly ludicrous. This is common knowledge to most people. Proponents of the pride movement started to fabricate new identies, ideologies, and morals in an attempt to justify and conceal the perversion/ degeneracy that permeates their community. There's no factual foundational basis to modern gender ideology, they just expect you to believe it while propagating fallacies.
Notice how the goal post changed from "sex and gender are different," to now referring trans women as male to females? Exactly. It's not meant to be consistent or make sense, you're just expected to believe it at face value. It went from "let us live" to forcing everyone to conform to their delusions to validate an identity that they themseleves don't even believe in very quick.
Their real agenda is dark and predatory, which is why they're targeting the most vulnerable and impressionable demographic to instil their values in ie. children. I'm 19, and the amount of children that are actively being groomed into transitioning is staggering. Not to mention most of these kids are on the spectrum or either neurodivergent, consequently making them even more vulnerable to radical ideologies/echo chambers online. They know what they're doing.
Honestly, if Octavia was alive today, I don't think he'd approve of what's currently going on. However, I do respect his honesty, perseverance, and ambition while also unapologetically being himself.
Because they weren't. The notion that you can change your gxnder is false, and utterly ludicrous. This is common knowledge to most people. Proponents of the pride mxvement started to fabricate new identies, ideolxgies, and morals in an attempt to justify and conceal the pervxrsion/dxgeneracy that permeates their community. There's no fxctual foundational basis to modern gxnder ideolxgy, they just expect you to believe it while propagating fallacies.
Notice how the goal post changed from "sex and gxnder are different," to now referring trxns women as mxle to females? Exactly. It's not meant to be consistent or make sense, you're just expected to believe it at face value. It went from "let us live" to fxrcing everyone to conform to their delusixns to vxlidate an identity that they themseleves don't even believe in very quick.
Their real agxnda is dark and predxtory, which is why they're txrgeting the most vulnerable and impressionable demographic to instil their values in ie. children. I'm 19, and the amount of childrxn that are actively being grxxmed into trxnsitioning is staggering. Not to mention most of these kids are on the spectrum or either neurodivergent, consequently making them even more vulnerable to rxdical ideologies/echo chambers online. They know what they're doing.
Honestly, if Octxvia was alive today, I don't think he'd approve of what's currently going on. However, I do respect his honesty, perseverance, and ambition while also unapologetically being himself. Also yes, I misspelled things purposely so youtube wouldn't mxderate this comment.
Karine you always do an excellent job!
Still watching and Working ;) Was that Gayle King on the news channel with sarcasm lol about eddie
you chewed with this one, love your inclustivity
Im going to check out " Paris Is Burning " never heard of it before...thanks Karine
Ayyy! 🙌🏽 I’m so ready. I love her. She was such a trip. 💯
I'm supposed to be sleep but I had to click on this bc I looooovvvee Octavia!
'Nocturnal philanthropist'😂😂 needs to be on a t-shirt
I'm sorry, Karine. I do not agree. People should go out of their way to avoid these lifestyles if they want to see The King when this meat suit we all wear inevitably fails. I only bring this up because this person said "I don't pay attention to human beings, it's God they care about." in their last statement. I don't know what God Octavia is referring to but The God of the Bible is very clear on the whole gamut of that lifestyle. Worldly life is a test, and it's pass or fail, you either make into the Kingdom of God or that deplorable place under our feet. I don't believe any person should be encouraging people to fail the most important test ever, how you live, by telling anyone to "be themselves", "live in their truth", etc. if being themselves is contrary to the word of God. Those struggling with wanting to act on ungodly desires must entrust it to the Lord and shun those demons with their God given authority in the name of Jesus, like with any other sin. God wants us with Him in our peaceful and beautiful eternal home safe from evil but WE as humans choose to separate ourselves from Him so we can have "fun" on earth. I pray for all those suffering with being engulfed in sinful lifestyles. I really hope Octavia repented before passing.
1 John 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Jesus said in Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
God doesn't put people in the wrong body. He is perfect, just yet merciful, and He makes no mistakes. Much love and God bless. Christ is King.
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☝🏾💖🙏🏾👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Yes so true ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You are correct and very wise thank you for sharing, saying to “be yourself” or “live in your truth” is contrary to what God says, he wants us to live for him….that is letting go of what we want and letting go of living our truth and living the way he wants us to , these are all spiritual battles based on worldly lies, chemical unbalances are also apart of the equation, but i really dont want to make anyone feel segregated for their differences and battles
Hey ms.susie nobody knows who God his nor will you will ever know actually God is inherently evil itself Jesus want do it for Noone so be careful about the Bible it is a dangerous book to begin with
Thank you so much for covering this beautiful legend ❤❤❤❤
☕️ Bobby Browns oldest sister and assistant to Whitney said that Whitney told her why her and Eddie stopped dating. She said Whitney told her that Eddie received a call at her home from his "lover". Bobby Browns sister has not been sued and did not say allegedly. ☕️
A lovely person with a sad and tragic life. RIP Diva.
But he said he was happy with who he was.
@@KJ-df9oz *She. That is the terminology she preferred as it said in the video, you know it. This is not the place for you if you are here to make shady Transphobic comments.
@@KJ-df9oz He/She also said "I'm not a woman, I'm not a man, I'm Octavia"
I thought that was Jody Watley in the thumbnail.
😮😳 How
In Thailand, they call transgendered individuals “the 3rd” sex and they are pretty much respected in their country. I often wonder in America, if we took the male vs. female debate out of it, and just use the term “3rd” sex (which would be transgendered individuals) would there be so much fighting? Anyway, thank you for remembering Octavia’s life in a respectful, kind and loving manner. She was one of the good ones ❤
I think that would be wonderful but there are a lot of people that are proud for being ignorant. They call it traditional and values but like so many people couldn't be themselves back then either but I really think it will take some time to create the 3rd gender or identity just like it did for gay rights back in the early 2010s
that’s exactly it. they don’t want their own lane. they want to be lumped together and seen as bio women. THATS where the fighting starts. idgaf how they want to look and dress but you’re not going to tell me you’re the same as me a bio female!
@@JuJuForREALthat part
the 3rd sex thing are lady boys that are just a fetish(thailand has trans women too)
trans women have gender dysphoria which comes from the womb,its different❤
@@JuJuForREAL true I respect gay and transpeople, but after hearing some of them forcing a competition with women I don't think so!
Women have been through enough we're not gonna fight. They are still men and can fight amongst themselves. Since war and fighting is the male spirit !!
They aren't women and they never will be women!
They can have their own bathrooms.
Men will Fck anyone dead or alive .
Yes!!! I agree. People should be honest and live in there truth. That way you won’t hurt anyone. She lived her life on her terms. I don’t think Octavia was bitter at all. Thank you for sharing!!❤️👍
You make the best informative videos. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾. I was so intrigued by this story. Thank you
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @KarineAlourde I know you and I don't always see eye to eye. But I already know this story. This is going to be a good one!💞💞🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
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To know octavia was to love her … miss her everyday
Thanks for covering this ……..
Miss him
@@Foodforyoursoul022 watever makes you feel better ….
I wish you would’ve included the footage of 2003 where she was talking at a college. She dropped sooo much tea in the video. Chile!!!!
Love she is no hypocrite and says she is a transwomen and not a real woman like in this times
They had respect for Real women back then. Today they hate real women
She was absolutely gorgeous. I heard that the character of Angel Evangelista on the show Pose was partially based on Octavia and a few other trans models especially the ones who appeared on Paris is Burning.
Thank you for shedding light on this. ❤
She’s gorgeous, just stunning
I love that you did this. SHE was beautiful in so many ways.
It’s actually believed Charlie Sheen had motive in the murder mentioned and flew into a rage when the victim was writing a tell all book.
Wow.
Motive in the Shalamar murder?
@@Deevine_ Was a client allegedly....Flew into a rage.
If he is not ashamed to be a man...why are you calling him she?
She only call him a she becuase Octavia look and felt like a woman. But didn't mind telling people who didn't know that she was born a he
Some of you Transphobes just aren't happy no matter what. If you weren't complaining about this you'd be here commenting some BS about Octavia trying to 'fool' men. Grow up.
And before you jump in and say you're not making a deliberately Transphobic comment, at it is clearly stated at 09:55 in the video, "Despite Octavia being open and saying she is a boy, she liked to be called her and she." So you didn't even actually watch the video at all, you're just here to be inflammatory. Facts
Because that's how she lived. She looked better than you most likely lol the nerve
I'd say Octavia has a condition called C.A.I.S
Ooooohhhh Karine you ate it for this! ❤yessss
OCTAVIA was one in a million while many others at the time were trying to be stealth she CHOSE to stand alone and be indifferently beautiful ❤️❤️RIP ICON🕊️
Octavia was gorgeous. Paris is burning Darling 🔥
This you tube channel is incredible! Thank you for this!❤❤❤
What a beautiful being! Just gorgeous ❤❤❤
Thanks, Karine!💕Enjoyed this… especially your commentary at the end.💯 👏🏾
You did this video with such class 🙏 thank you ❤