Which Mouse Pad is Better for Aiming? (Hard pad vs. Cloth pad)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2020
- It seems like the hard pad has become extinct in the gaming world as cloth pads have taken over. In this video, I share my thoughts on the advantages and disadvantages of hard pads and cloth pads.
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I use my carpet for increased surface area
lol 😂
@@RonRamboKim Ron ccan you do video about mech keyboards and blue/red/black switches what in your mind is best? i have black ones im interested if anyother like red are better then black in reaction time and smooth clicking .
@@StevnYT It would be nice but I bet it would all be cherry switches again like all the other keyboard vids I see from people without them going into other switch types and brands.
@@WyattOShea yeah, cherry switches are not always the best, especially the blue switch
@@DP1AN Yeah I don't hate cherry switches at all but there are much better switches out there that no on seems to talk about in these top switches kinds of videos it's almost exclusively cherry with maybe a few outemu/gateron or kailh switches when there are so many more out there that I would like other people to review other than just that Chyrosan guy or whatever his name was.I mean sure I love his videos but it would be nice to have other perspectives too.
Him: hard pad vs cloth pad
Me: Math vs Science textbook
Yeah the math book has a lot of problems 🤣
Denzven Vadakkan good one LOL
Lol
PEPE ONZIMA lol
Me: desk or piece of paper
If you have cats, get the hard one, or you wont have any mousepad left within 5 days
hehe
It's true. I bought a new mousepad a couple months ago and it's already ruined 😌
@@TheLiquidCat calling it a mouse pad is just asking for cats to destroy it
calling it a mouse pad is just asking for cats to destroy it
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His friend: *uses cutting board as a mouse pad*
Me: *Uses my exam sheet holder as a mouse pad*
Me: criyng in laptop desk
Lmfao same
Why not just buy a mousepad wtf they're not expensive
Same
@@madnessman1520 Some kids dont have their own money yet/access to their own money and many parents will often say no when asked. Really not that difficult to comprehend but i suppose that;s difficult when you have easy parents lol.
On my way to buy a huge cutting board...
What have i done
I was gonna close the vid(then i did) but i saw the comment like 1 microsecond and come back for a like lmao
He has down the work of god
I use one
@@RonRamboKim You've Done goof
My first mouse pad was a hard pad and after a year of heavy usage It made my aim Inconsistent because It was so used and the surface was uneven. Then I bought a cloth pad and It's great my aim feels good and I feel like I have more control over my mouse movements, but I have to clean It every once In a while for good traction. Great video as always
Switching from hard pad to soft pad do u have to change sens?
@@memtub8782 you shouldn't change your sensitivity Just because you use a different surface. Mouse pad only changes the FEEL not your ability to click on enemy gamers xD
RIDER XC dude i have the same problem, i have the razer firefly which is 3 years old. The surface feels so weird and it wore my mouse feet real quick
@@RIDERXC666 ah okay thanks dude I thought maybe friction would hamper my aim or something
@@RIDERXC666 Different surfaces should change the amount of friction that your hand has to overcome to get the same flicks/movements. While the mouse movement will still correspond well to the crosshair, the amount of exertion from your hand to the mouse will be definitely different. So, it is not just the feel but also the force.
Holy shit I didn't even realize this was Rambo at first. A cs 1.6 legend when I played back in the day. This is sick. How bad is CS GO buddy, am I right? lol The good ol 3D days holy shit lol
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did u just call csgo bad ??
@@cosmikswordfish he did 5 months ago
@Bass0310 5 months ago wasn't the beginning 😂
@Bass0310 csgo was just so different... the ak spray pattern was aids...
that lint roller thing is genius ily
Yes I use a lint roller because I have a cat
@@synnix1978 don’t let your cat by your pc lol
Ikea stick bae roller go brrr
@LongShot I do have a cat. But he’s not allowed in my pc room lol
@LongShot lol
Hard pad actually erase mouse feet in no time
not if u have lexip ones
You can get aftermarket ones like Tiger Arcs/Hyperglides/etc that are durable enough
Depends on how much pressure you're putting on your mouse. I can get about a year of use before changing mouse feet.
@@lang8289 jojopad still tears apart those
@@titoepfx4272 Impressive. I have a glorious helios and my tiger arcs have lasted a few months now and still feel fine
i dont have a mouse pad at all i use a piece of cardboard LOL
Just buy a mousepad... It aint that expensive
lmao same
i know that its half a dollar here but its been lock down so ......
LOL my brother
its not he case here all the mouse pads that available here are from chinese market so they aint that expensive here but i am broke LOL
Thank you for linking them in the description I m going to buy one now
Rambooo been a fan since 1.6, and the love the angle you're taking on creating this type of content
Finally some love for hard pads. I use the Xtrfy Heaton for over a year now and no noticable wear on the pad or mousefeet.
Only disadvantage is that there is more dust on the mousefeet edges but it's easy and fast to clean :)
Hey RRK I actually view the ability to push your mouse in to a soft pad as a situational benefit. It can add more percussion to your flicks if at the end you push your mouse ever so slightly down creating more stopping force. Just an out of the box thought. Great video!
OMG the lint roller tip is one that im definitely going to use thanks :D
Ahh man Rambo! I didn't know you were still around, I'll never forget "WHOSE AUG IS THIS?"
Thanks Rambo. Very informative as always. Great last tip too, keep it coming!
Thanks, will do!
Bringing me back with those old school hard pads! Ice Mat! Great video, man.
Definitely one of the most informative video in the youtube about mousepads. Not like most of others bunch of unnecessary fast talk at the background to make people feel he knows much thing about mousepads :dd Good job man.
Small note about soft pads. The directional friction changes based on the stitching orientation. Basically all cloth pads move faster in one direction (i.e. north/south) because of the weave of the fabric.
Great point!
as a wrist/fingertip user i honestly didn't give hard pads a thought, i always thought the smoothness would make it harder to control. only to realize that the smoothness makes it easier for those micro adjustments, where a cloth pad has even more friction. once i started using hard i couldn't go back.
Hm edpi do u recommend bro
3:16 holy shit the guys Sens is lows as hell god damn
Holy my most liked comment
Swifty Chaos I play with 800dpi and 1,65 ingame sens, not too much space. But that looks like your arm would become tired after a few games.
He is niko 😇
He has to go to the ground to do a 360°
I can hardly imagine moving my mouse more than 1cm regular use, or max 2 cm for a flick, and the guy is using a full damn mousepad
He is one of the best professional aimers on csgo
Very informative! I have found that I am a person truly on the fence, because there are times that I prefer a hard surface over a soft one, depending on the content of what I am doing, and strangely enough, depending on what mood my body is in at the time, for sometimes I may want to change it out on a whim, even if doing the same type of content. I would say there are good reasons why you might want to have both, especially if you spend lengthy sessions using it, as just changing them can increase comfort, precision, or even both depending on the demands of your body at the time. It's always good to have options, if they are available and affordable enough. Good tip with the lint roller, too! I feel every little, annoying miniscule fleck of anything myself and it can drive you crazy!
I used to watch this guy play 1.6 back in his Team 3D days. Definitely a world class player.
i needed this video thanks.
Great video! Thanks for making it. I really didn't think there was that big of a difference between the two. It's good to see your personality come out a bit too. :P
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Awesome video man, helpful as always!
Lint roller is the way for cloth pad users. If you want your mouse feet & pad to last long, & be as clean as possible, & to have the most consistent glide for a cloth pad. I also personally use a microfibre cloth to wipe my hands after intense rounds, as I am a big hand sweater 😅
Good vid. This seal the deal for me for thin hard pads. I always used clean flat desks before instead of mouse pads.
*Laughs in 10cm of worn-down table*
Finn K Vince Staples fan
@@dezyy8489 ah you noticed the fish!
Lol yeah I listen to some of his music
OMG, thank you so much for helping me make my decision on what type of pad i should get 👍👍👍
thanks for the tip with the lint roller. soo useful.
Thanks for the tips !!
I wanted this topic so badly and you just made the video. Thanks man
Glad I could help
@@RonRamboKim thank you so much sir
Pro tip- if you want a huge hard pad, buy one of those green fabric cutting boards. They come in astronomical sizes
Damn that last pro Tip. Never thought about that, thanks ;D
Using that roll was bigbrain move! THANK YOU😮😃
Rambo! I've got to tell you since it seems like you haven't noticed from your streams, but you're actually using the Zowie FK2 Divina, not the S2. check the tag on your mouse!
omg. you're right! zowie sent me like 9 mice and i got them mixed up. thanks for letting me know!
This man has so many mouse pad
That when his friend comes to his home they can just use mouse pad as blanket
This helped a lot at the end because there always get dust and sweat on my mouse pad and he told me how to make the mouse pad cleaner thanks 🙏
I think the Logitech Powerplay removes a lot of the disadvantages of normal cloth pads. Its not super squishy, has a plastic bottom to stick to the charge pad, and has a great glide with not too little force needed and not too much.
Its way too small for me i gave it away aftet a week.
@@darrenluisis5067 its a decent size for a mousepad, especially for what it can do, but i agree. i dont actually use it anymore, nor am i still using a logitech mouse. i swapped to razer, because I'm upset that logitech uses the cheapest chinese micron switches in the world, and their unreliable asf. i would hold the trigger (left click obv) in a video game, and it would make me stop firing after a bullet or two goes off. it was extremely infuriating to lose fights because of that, but it took a lot for me to move away from logitech to anything else. I was reluctant to go to razer, but the Razer Deathadder V2 wireless mouse is the best mouse I've ever owned, and I'll never buy anything else.
Thanks, coach! Stay safe!
Thanks, you too!
Regarding your point of hard pads being small, the Glorious Helios is great quality; it can be moved several times while retaining its grip, it comes in a very big XL size, it is fast and after almost a year of use, the most worn area has a little bit more friction than the edges I rarely ever used. It does eat mouse skates though, if you want your mouse to act brand new, you would probably have to buy new skates every month and maybe get a new pad every 6 months, but that isn't necessary. I'm using it with their Model O mouse and it's a great combo.
I had the surface 1030 for years and lost it. But thanks to you I can get another one
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart
THAT TIP at the end with the sticky thing is life changing.
Another disadvantage cloth pad have is that suffer in some way of air humidity, my zowie g-sr is very sensitive to fluctuations in air humidity. A hard pad won't have that Issue.
My artisan is cloth and doesnt have this issue at all. Even on the hottest, humid summer days it still feels butter smooth. That being said artisan went out of their way to do this when designing the pads. Really high quality pads if you are ever looking to upgrade!
True
have a steelseries qck L cloth, everytime when its raining outside my mouse pad and mouse feels sticky and off, terrible feeling
@@guitarninja416 ^^ this
so true
If you still have that steelseries icepad, it is worth MONEY now. I would keep it tho, it’s so cool
Amazing explained thanks
i like your vids man keep it up
Every time I'm wondering about something in my setup u make a video about it at the same moment.
It also happened for the Chair and Table's height video and the "Gamer's pain" video. Thx a lot :)
Good stuff!
I feel I need a cloth pad just because of the extra force required because I don’t have the steadiest of hands (I don’t shake noticeably to the eye but sometimes in game it shows) when I used my first mouse pad which was a hard one I couldn’t play precise at all and that took a really big toll on my gameplay (I play cs and am an above average player now but not before) once I got my cloth extended mouse mat I felt unleashed. I could finally play as low a sens as I wanted with no consequences to my flicks because the mat was so big. It was also the fact that because they need more pressure, I would only have deliberate movements even with my shaky hand. Getting that mouse mat was the best change I’ve made to my setup and the most impactful
H y p n o t i c glad you found a setup there works well for you :)
I currently use a large hard mouse pad because I’m broke and got it from staples and I feel as though no matter how skilled I am in the game or hard I practice my aim it is still very inconsistent and not precise with small movements at all after reading this it feels like we feel the same way so I’m gonna buy a cloth mouse pad and I’m gonna tell you what happens
This is exactly why I'm getting a cloth one, my aim is visibly shaky sometimes so I need that extra friction. If I got a hard one, it would be too slidy.
03:59 Wow you just went in tune and perfectly with the background beat there😅😃
oh man icemats that's a throwback, had the clanbase one
Very useful video! I am now using my lab table desk as a mousepad instead of my tiny cloth pad. It is a definitive improvement.
Glad it was helpful!
I want that rgb ! Lol awsome video !
guess ima go ahead and try out a hard pad for this high sens ive been playing with for some reason my tracking is insane but my flicks have been off and your explenation actually makes a lot of sense
I've experimented with both hard and cloth pads over the years. Right now I'm rocking a deskpad, because I also play on a much lower sens than I used to, and also because I like resting my forearm on the desk and trailing the mat off the edge of the desk is smoother and more comfortable to run my arm over than my desk surface without using some sort of sleeve, where it would get stuck especially with any sweat.
I loved the glide of hardpads but would frequently find that I aimed a little slower as a result because there was so little friction that I ended up to overcompensate in order to control my aim. I like cloth pads with a smooth or fast glide - I find the cloth material inherently provides that little bit of resistance that helps me flick more accurately. (Plus I'm more likely to run out of arm than I am to run out of mousepad space lol.)
actually just binge watching your videos right now. concise and to the point, they really help me elevate my game. and then I realise I smashed my mouse during the covid 19 crisis, and I have to wait forty days for shipping - and I don’t have a replacement. whatever - great video as always.
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Perfect timing. I almost bought a new Mousepad last night, but didn't know what I should go with. I have cloth right now but feel that it maybe affecting me because it is getting old and dirty. But I think I'll stick with Cloth, since you said it better for Lower Sens players :)
The only problem I have with cloth is that it gets dirty and over time I I doesn't feel as smooth. Plus my room gets kinda hot and the humidity just makes the mousepad feel weird. I just washed mine and it just still doesn't feel right. I might have to go buy another new one.
@@RockyJayyy Yeah, I've watched videos of how to clean them. It works for the most part. but still looks kind of gross. Honestly not sure if it's as smooth as it originally was because I've used the same one for 6ish years and I
m just used to it.
@@xTheTamingx I'm about to get a new mousepad within the next couple days. I just don't like the way it feels, my qck+ is probably 6 months old and it just don't feel right. I love the way they are right out of the box but it doesn't last long. I'm pretty sure my problem is the heat and humidity in my room since it really wasn't dirty. I like the smoothness of the icemat glass but it's too small. Maybe I'll give the gsr a try since so many pro players use it.
So using hard pad with gaming glove/sleeve is win win combo. Good to know, thanks!
great video!! since a lot has changed in the past years, I'd love to see an update on the topic. Now we have things like the SkyPad 3.0, Razer Atlas and the Pulsar Superglide (which is even available in desk size), which are all large size hardpads. While pros aren't using them, there are many high level Valorant players that started using glasspads.
4:16 Thx!!😅
I use a old white t-shirt, pretty nice.
I use a smooth wooden floor tile. It works amazingly. I used to use Carnuba wax but after a few years I realized just cleaning it with rubbing alcohol was good enough. I also just started using weather stripping as wrist-rests for my keyboard and wrist protectors for my mouse hand (my wrist tends to drag across the edge of my desk).
almost seems easier to use a thin, soft pad & ptfe skates. Slightly hang the pad off the edge of your desk to mitigate wrist damage/pain. to each his own though, we like what we like.
thanks dude, i was wondering what to get in the future and this helped me decide. keep it up
Thanks for these videos, they are concise and informative. I remember watching 3D vs. W.E.W a lonnnng time ago. Would be sick to see a video of your thoughts on the players and teams during that era, and a retrospective of that time period. It holds a fond memory in my heart, those days.
Bro the lint roller is 200IQ, thanks!
It comes down to what your used to , for me cloth is what I played with for the last 7 years . I tried hard mouse pads but it makes my aim inconsistent cuz I'm not used to that low of a friction
Awesome video. Also, for people who have cats and other critters, you'll probably find that lint rollers don't work that well in the long term just due to the sheer volume of stuff you need to pull off. Myself, I just use packing tape. It's cheap and easy to use and convenient since ya just toss the piece when it gets too dirty. I just pull off a piece about two inches longer than my pad is wide, fold the ends over to make non sticky grip surfaces to grab on to, then start at the top, lay it down, squish it in contact with the pad from one edge to the other, then pull it up and take every trace of kitty/dog/critter fur, etc with it. I just do it in strips like this. Takes like 10 seconds to do the whole pad and those super fine hairs just come right up. I pretty much have to do mine every day since my particular mouse absolutely loses its mind with even a single hair in the sensor area. Ah well, better than cleaning mouse balls. :)
cloth pad are really inconsistent when they absorb moisture, the moisture in the air or from your hand can get on cloth pad and can make the surface of the cloth pad more rough or sticky. and when the room is cold meaning the moisture in the air or from your hand will be gone, the cloth pad will feel really smooth until you've sweat. this will impact people who plays with high sensitivities because the slightest roughness or smoothness of the cloth pad movement can change where the mouse lands when you move it. this can also be hard to train for muscle memory since it will depend on the temperature of the room. for context, i live in the philippines and its always rainy and hot
Have to agree with moisture part. I had to put my pad outside my room because while my room was hot, my table was cold and pad was sweating.
That depends on the type of cloth pad an actual CLOTH pad doesn't do that, but a mooshy/spongy type of cloth pad does what you described.
@@loic7867 What models could you tell as example?
I must agree with you as i feel the same with qck steelseries whenever its wet my mouse slow down and when its dry it feel normal again thats why i today started to think about getting second mousepad some day :D to get one at exchange.
i was wondering about this for a long period of time..wow thanks...
Thanks man this video reminded me that lint rollers exist
😂
Thanks for the tips Rambo
deff interested in that casethrone!!!
2:18 "check the bottom of yours"
me: looks at my mouse pad
my table: its just a piece of paper taped to me
Same lmao, it works soo well😂😂
You generally want to replace your Logitech G440 hardpad with a new one every 5-6 months or so if you are a frequent FPS player. I’ve found that after about 4-5 months of heavy use there’s enough damage to the mousepad surface to warrant changing. Also, be in the habit of swapping to a different mousepad if you’re not gaming and are just browsing your PC listening to music or doing other tasks. I always keep a clothpad beside it to swap to when I’m not in-game. That way I don’t needlessly wear the hardpad surface down when I’m not gaming.
I've come up with a foam/sponge rubber desk mat that turned out to be very comfortable and fairly mouse compatible, more like moderate sensitivity. Been using it for 3 years personally and my friends, so far it's been great so I've made a whole batch of them, it's called Fusionstrike Limestone Desk Mat if anyone interested getting one (currently ship within UK but could sort out international shipment too). The rubber is made from sustainable limestone rock instead of oil/petrol which makes it more environmentally friendly than most desk mats out there. It's laminated with super stretch smooth nylon so it's easier to clean it than most cloth mats.
Holy shit the lint roller tip just changed my way of life, I’m questioning everything
I legit use a Pokémon battling sheet thingy that has the same consistency as a cloth mouse pad, it’s also a full desk size. Got it from a Pokémon card box with those giant cards and the Pokémon battling sheet with it.
Edit: Realized they are called Pokémon card battling mats and not “battle sheet thingys”.
I feel u
Switched from a cloth ( Logitech G640 & Glorious XXL ) to a hard ( hybrid) pad Razer Sphex V2. Literally the best move in my gaming life. This pad is insane. Ultra light , only 0,5 mm in thickness and incredibly easy to clean. The feel is in between a cloth and hard pad , with speed and proper control. If you look for a new pad on the harder side , give this one a try. With 15-20 bucks it’s on the cheaper side too. Will never go back to cloth, my aim got so much better getting used to it.
Night and day difference in glide
U have ur own zowie gsr se, dude respect
that mouse pad looks killer. i want one if you have more to share. please and thank you!
High control soft pad only for me.
Feels like hard pads and EVEN the slicker cloth ones allow my mouse to slide, which means I have to use more effort to accelerate (change direction or speed), in other words I have to actively push against the momentum of the mouse and this seems objectively bad.
Control pads allow for snappy stop & go and the resistance I need to overcome from inertia feels more consistent.
Zowie GS-R Large is all I can use. Really wishing Zowie will make an XL version, as all larger pads to my knowledge are faster.
I personally prefer hard pads but you made some very good points.
That explains why I was aiming like a maniac when I was playing on my table without my mouse mat.
Good video. Have you tried and/or have any thoughts on the Shidenkai pads Ron?
cries in small table that is the length of my own monitor
Off topic, remember to dust.
I just ordered some front fans and so was motivated to reroute almost all my internal cables to outside the motherboard, and dusted with compressed air for the first time in 2 years.
1/4" thick dust bunnies on every single intake vent, even ones for empty fan slots.
Idle GPU temp from 50-55C to 40-44C. Actually runs noticeably faster.
Don't be a dumbass like me.
Love the lint roller
My hard pad surface has been ground down overtime and moving the mouse from the centre to the outside edges has a noticeable difference in friction and general feel.
I was literally just thinking about this... crazy
orami #4116 didn't even get that far into the video yet 😅
Im currently using the Logitech G440 Hardpad , I agree with everything that was said on this video, unfortunately I've read online that the Logitech g440 is not very reliable/durable that its surface scratches HARD over time , maybe I only play 3 - 4 hours and mostly use my mousepad for officework
Logitech G304 for Mouse
Logitech G440 for Mousepadd
P.S Logitech G440 is very expensive here in the Philippines :(
Yo Rambo, I'm interested in your take on Cordura pads (faster synthetic cloth pads) and the faster cloth pads by Artisan etc. I just ordered a Cordura. I use my arm for a lot of my target switching (with a higher friction arm sleeve) and obviously my wrist my micro adjustments. My hope is that I can get the best of both worlds with increased stopping power from arm pressure but the smooth wrist tracking and micro from a faster pad.
From my experience with my Logitech G604. The problem with the hard pad WAS the small adjustments to the mouse. I tried the Roccat Raivo and Alumic and both of them had their problems with my stock mousefeet and skates from Corepad. Just yesterday, I switched to a cheap, cloth pad and WOW, no weird tracking issues and no weird movement issues. Actually, there were no issues at all. I ordered a glorious sitch mousepad and I'm looking to buy the Hayate Otsu once it's available. BTW, my sensitivity is 1600 DPI. I even put a microfiber cloth under my wrist to lessen th sweat picked up by my hard pads but they still needed a wipe every few minutes
I use soft pad because i can over hang it a little so i get a cushion for my arm
Once i got fed up with my cloth mousepad getting dirty so i went to walmart and bought a plastic kids placemat and flipped it upside down and taped it to my desk. I used it for about 5 months
I bought a large finalmouse pad, and while the mouse glided over it very smoothly, the material was rough and didn't feel good to rest my arm on. even with a compression sleeve on. i tried gaming without a pad on my desk while i was washing it one day and found that I was aiming better because I could glide my arm around on my desk easier, there was no friction under my mouse, and i didn't have to worry about running out of room on the pad. turns out you don't even need a mousepad.
does your desk destroy mousefeet because i think same my desk is best mousepad
Same here I can feel each and every dust particle and lint on my mousepad XD
me watching this with an office mouse with a mousepad that is basically the 60cm table i have:
I use a 20x20" sheet of tempered glass that I frosted (etched) so that the mouse tracks perfectly on it. After a short break in period the surface is almost perfectly smooth, extremely easy to clean (literally just use a glass wipe) and doesn't wear my mouse skates anywhere near as bad as other hard pads, or my favorite cloth pad the Artisan Shidenkai.
Very informative