Are Glass Mousepads BETTER? ...Maybe - Skypad

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    Mousepads are very important for your setup, be it a PC or Mac, but it's almost critical for gaming. Unfortunately, there have been a lot of snake oil products out there that say they are the ultimate way to get better accuracy. So we check out these glass ones from Skypad.
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  • @KilobyteKeith
    @KilobyteKeith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1493

    Interesting idea, but it's a hard pass from me. The noise would drive me crazy and I bet I'd be able to feel every microscopic piece of whatever between the mouse and the pad.

    • @viiltelijamurhaaja7225
      @viiltelijamurhaaja7225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I feel every time I have a hair under my mouse and I have normal mouse bad. It really doesn't happen that often. But if you can feel smaller stuff when using that, it might be a problem

    • @viathenomad
      @viathenomad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I have the skypad, and for most of the time you don't feel anything benieth it, only sometimes when it's something big which is super easy to just wipe away thanks to the smooth surface, the benefits definitely outweigh the drawbacks. It's not so loud that I really noticed after moving and it just blends in after a while. It's super easy to clean and for someone who eats at their desk like myself it's real nice to be able to clean it so easily.

    • @neintails6459
      @neintails6459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't you wear headphones when gaming? It might not drive me crazy but it sure as hell will make my roommate kick me out.

    • @ryanb6503
      @ryanb6503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Heaven forbid it was anything capable of scratching the crap out of it

    • @celuldor
      @celuldor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      With the right skates its not a problem, its quite unfair with the wrong pads.
      I had this back in 2005 isch with the IceMAT and loved it, this might replace my LTT Mat :D

  • @testbenchdude
    @testbenchdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    I used an Icemat glass pad for years. Takeaways: the tiniest bit of dust or grit will instantly ruin your day. Also if your hand sweats, it'll show on the glass. It is super easy to clean though.

    • @mrtempertantrum
      @mrtempertantrum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My brother had one of those, which is where I got the idea to make mine. I will never, ever go back to a fabric, plastic or any other non-glass mat.

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mrtempertantrum Make?

    • @BloodShed4REAL
      @BloodShed4REAL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@EikottXD Icemats are basically frosted glass with colored film on the back.
      So making one yourself is relatively easy (depending on your skill of course).

  • @donaldmcduck8639
    @donaldmcduck8639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +745

    We had these some 20 years ago. They were called icemat and had the same teflon feet for my MX510. Sadly the noise does not go away but it was smoothhh AF for those times.

    • @witterdanwit
      @witterdanwit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep same. With MX500. The logical dual optical didn't play nice with the glass and was generally not as good. Still have the jcepad XL, but don't use it anymore because of the noise and the noise skates just wear away so quick.

    • @Rakadis
      @Rakadis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I still have, and use, mine...

    • @LantosAhim
      @LantosAhim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same here. I still have my old icemat and it still feels and looks like new. I used it with an all-time-favorit MX518.

    • @DamianWalczak
      @DamianWalczak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was waiting for this comment, YES I still have my icemat and and its still like new despite being almost an adult now

    • @tehBob
      @tehBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rakadis Same here. Love my IceMat

  • @Volker_A4
    @Volker_A4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    Artisan pads are only $55 to start (when in stock), so definitely less than 100.

    • @konchai5918
      @konchai5918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But not available in Asia apparently

    • @koivids_
      @koivids_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      love my hien soft, i wanna buy another for when my current one eventually goes bad

    • @Volker_A4
      @Volker_A4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@koivids_ it's kind of crazy to me that the best of the best mousepads are under $100. Pretty unheard of in the tech industry.

    • @turboxide
      @turboxide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not including shipping though

    • @Volker_A4
      @Volker_A4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@turboxide yes, but skypad shipping is the same anyway.

  • @gamebuster800
    @gamebuster800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +552

    the logo on small one is totally okay. The logo with the cloud or something would prevent me from buying it. It looks really cheap, like it's from one of these cheap stuff stores. Talking about these stores: these stores usually also sell glass cutting boards for a lot less than 100$. I wonder how a glass cutting board would compare. I'm sure you'll be able to find a matte/frosted one.

    • @alexdavis9324
      @alexdavis9324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I feel like you could go find a local "maker" and have them make you something that is way cooler for probably a similar price.

    • @TheMrbear186
      @TheMrbear186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Yeah that logo is horrendous

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah, I had that same reaction when I saw that ugly, cheap-looking logo in the big one, to the point that I started thinking if it could be removed with some acetone.

    • @Pantiesonheadretarded
      @Pantiesonheadretarded 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @ Way back in the day when Steelseries/Icemat made similar glass mousepads, people would customise them by stripping the paint on the back and painting their own designs on them. I'd be willing to bet money that these are painted in the same way on the back side, though you'd have to strip the colour layer to get at the logo. But then you simply have a clear mousepad or you can paint it again.

    • @ac.creations
      @ac.creations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      maybe just buy a glass cutting board and scuff it with 2000-3000 grit polish

  • @fnatic
    @fnatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thanks for recommending our DASH XD! We've got even faster glide on the horizon 👀

    • @ReivecS
      @ReivecS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Resurrect the func anti-friction liquid please. Unless it turned out it was hazardous or something in which case please let me know as I still have some. :)

    • @w1ndex
      @w1ndex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used a Boost XL Speed and also tried the Control version for a couple of years. I would try a Dash but I cannot think of a reason after trying the Skypad. And I don't have to buy a new pad every year...I have the 3.0 ordered. So maybe try staying in y'alls own lane?

  • @seettler
    @seettler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have had one of these for a few years now, when I bought it it included enough teflon pads for 6 mice/changes I think, in two different textures. They do wear but the reason I ever changed mine is due to folding or them becoming uneven for some reason. Its too bad they aren't included anymore because they are everything, without them I wouldn't bother. Sound is gone and its pretty smooth.
    My kind of only complaint is that you need to keep it really clean, dust will cause noise and impede movements. I just do it with my dishes. I don't mind though, cleanliness is good.

    • @viiltelijamurhaaja7225
      @viiltelijamurhaaja7225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good that it works for you, but I could never keep it clean enough. I try to get everything in my setup to just work without maintenance just so i don't need to do anything

  • @ericsankey5756
    @ericsankey5756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    All desk pads $30 is the only reason I bought one. It was so awesome to get the perfect size for my desk and not have to pay extra for it being "custom". Thank you Linus!

  • @7Uriel13
    @7Uriel13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "are glass mousepads better?" in my head all i see is someone slaming their mouse in rage and shards of glass ripping apart their hand...

  • @turrrret
    @turrrret 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Small suggestion: For mousepad reviews, at least have a few different mice and (aftermarket) mouse skates at hand. I'm having the feeling that the skates supplied with the 303 just aren't that well compatible with this mousepad, since glass mousepads are usually wayy faster than average cloth deskmats. I think you guys could manage that

    • @quasi25
      @quasi25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, the testing could be a bit more thorough. Could at least have had a set of aftermarket mouse skates and waited on the first party skates from Skypad.

  • @drvish
    @drvish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    I've been using the SteelSeries Icemat I-2 for ~15 years. Still looks and feels new, not a single scratch. Dust wipes off easy. Once you use a new mouse on it for a bit, the feet do get a bit more quiet as they wear in, but still audible when making large fast moves. But tbh, I don't notice it during a game. One thing to also be aware of is, it can feel a tad cold in the winter if you have a cold room. But again, once you're gaming for a bit, it warms up.
    Every few months, I debate buying the LTT cloth pad, but seeing how crappy my brothers Razer cloth pad looks after all the skin and grime, it does put me off cloth pads in general.
    Overall, I'm still very happy with my glass pad 15 years on. At this rate, I think it is going to out last me. Best ever £30 or whatever I paid back then.

    • @icediverfull
      @icediverfull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I guess your brother should wash his pad then. You can get them perfectly clean, but very few people do it.
      I throw mine just in the shower and give it a little scrub with warm water and soap. Looks like new afterwards

    • @mhammadalloush5104
      @mhammadalloush5104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@icediverfull Absolutely. Although I just handwash it but the end result is always worth it

    • @kimsballs
      @kimsballs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wash my cloth pad every few months on cold hand-wash cycle. It looks good as new. Not saying it's better than a glass one, just something to consider.

    • @morganghetti
      @morganghetti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perhaps your brother should clean it.

    • @WakoJacKooo
      @WakoJacKooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You stole the comment right off me . The ice pad was epic but i dropped a cup of tea on mine a few years back and smashed it :(

  • @majorbogart3476
    @majorbogart3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    If you want to help with the noise, peel the feet right off and let the glass lay on something like the desk pad. That air gap makes the noise louder.

    • @majorbogart3476
      @majorbogart3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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    • @Renee_R343
      @Renee_R343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@majorbogart3476 Yeah, I can't fathom how, despite everything that google/youtube is capable of, they can't get rid of this very specific spam, plastered under every video a thousand times. I get that it's posted by bots from different accounts, but the content of the comment is pretty much copy/paste. Getting rid of it should be easy.

    • @majorbogart3476
      @majorbogart3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Renee_R343 it works to their benefit in the long run to let it continue. The more of a toxic cesspool that the comments are, the harder it will be for creators to gauge their audience, and the easier it will be to take it all away "for our own good", so that TH-cam can move closer to the old school ways of media and entertainment. We tell you what to watch and when. We will determine if it is worth your time or not, and worthiness can be bought and paid for. To be clear, TH-cam does not care about the opinions, needs, or wants of it's independent creators or users. They are concerned with advertisers, and the multi-billion dollar companies that pay for promoted content. They have NO PROBLEM taking money from pyramid schemes, illegal online drug stores, and straight up scammers, and running their ads in the videos. Everybody has seen the ads that I am talking about, and yet it has never been a topic that really gets discussed, because we are all busy being mad at the dislike button being gone, or a particular creator being suppressed, or whatever blah-blah drama is going on...
      Never forget, this is a part of the company that felt it was necessary to remove "Don't be evil" from it's company values.

    • @GloomGaiGar
      @GloomGaiGar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@majorbogart3476 it's gone btw

    • @mkygod
      @mkygod ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The gap allows for the pad to resonate freely in the air. Putting it on a desk, or better yet, a regular mouse pad or foam shelf liner will dampen the vibration.

  • @Elazul_END
    @Elazul_END 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a former high level competitive CS 1.6 and CS Source player and I've been waiting ages for a mousepad like this to come out. I had an Icemat back when I was playing competitively and it was by *FAR* the best one I've ever used in terms of accuracy and smoothness. If it wasn't so small I'd still be using it today, but large mousepads were pretty uncommon back then and they never made a larger size. I will be buying two of these at least (just in case they stop selling them and I break one). Regarding the noise, you get used to it and filter it out to where you don't even notice it anymore. It's not loud enough to be intrusive, and if someone is in the room with you your keyboard and mouse clicking is far more of a problem than a soft scraping sound.

  • @feltmods
    @feltmods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I've had the Skypad for nearly a year. The noise is literally because of grime on the feet, and that the stock G303-SE feet are not rounded edges, they are literally trash on even cloth. The reason why they recommend the feet, is because they come with less impurities in the PTFE, and having more rounded edge. The only thing I will say as a con with the Skypad, is the noise because of the dust. Buy an air purifier, which, is always worth, and rounded feet, namely Tiger Arc 1, or Corepads as best value. Runner up being Tiger Ice, but you only get one set with Tiger Ice, Tiger Arc 2 are inferior in every way to all the others, and are only one set. Do not use glass feet, ceramic feet, etc on the Skypad. It will damage it. If you want less chance of dust, then use smaller feet. I recommend just using Tiger Arc 1 MS-3 style feet, they have really good rounding, are cheap, and readily available since they are purposely made for Microsoft mice, and any clones that use MS-3 style feet (Fantech XD5 and other products, Intellimouse Pro, etc.)
    On a side note, the best perk of the Skypad, is as long as you don't intentionally scrape stuff harder than glass on the pad, it is technically indefinite, and if there is any grime, windex / rubbing alcohol / lighter fluid, etc, perfectly clean, dries in under a minute, vs washing a cloth pad and waiting a few hours for it to dry.

    • @st33ldi9ital
      @st33ldi9ital 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      why the hell should anyone have to go through all that just for a mouse?!?

    • @haroldtrei
      @haroldtrei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@st33ldi9ital If it's not for you, just don't do it, that doesn't mean that other people can't take their hobbies seriously. It's kind of what runners do with running shoes, are they going to make you run 100 times better? Probably not but maybe a tiny difference in how you feel the ground is enough for winning the marathon.

    • @st33ldi9ital
      @st33ldi9ital 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@haroldtrei Yea sure whatever you wanna believe or makes you feel better. Idgaf about feet or pad or whatever. Nothing been new in that space for over a decade. Lol dude really said get an air cleaner.. for your mouse... Switch to trackball and ya never have to worry about any of that. Can use whenever and wherever. No pad needed.

    • @feltmods
      @feltmods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@st33ldi9ital You don't, for the most part with a dusty room, it rarely happens. Even if you ain't using a hard pad, there are very few mice that actually come with good stock feet. Anything from Razer after the release of the Viper is fair, Burst Pro / Kone Pro, Logitech generally just has the worst stock skates. They literally use a foam spacer so that they have to spend less on PTFE...

    • @feltmods
      @feltmods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@st33ldi9ital The purifier is just for laziness. Personally, I only gotta brush dust off the pad once every two days. And cleaning is literally a 2 min ordeal. Point of glass is mostly just having consistency, no matter what. Like the dude that was talking about using an Icemat for 15 years or w/e.

  • @tassadarforaiur
    @tassadarforaiur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've used an aluminum mouse pad before, and it's nice, until you get anything at all dirty on the pad or in the feet. You get friction spots / scratchiness that just sucks, and then your detailing the pad with your fingernail, or the bottom of you mouse with a toothpick, to get back to the good feel

  • @Fools_Requiem
    @Fools_Requiem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I've tried hard mouse pads before, don't like them. Don't think the surface being glass would change that.

    • @mrtempertantrum
      @mrtempertantrum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It does. Plastic hard mats are gross and gritty, I've tried them and hated them, but a glass pad is amazing.

    • @s.i.m.c.a
      @s.i.m.c.a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i tried hard mouse pads too - called desktop surface lol

  • @tmarritt
    @tmarritt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I remember my dad had one of the first lazer mouse to come out, you litterially needed a mirrored surface to run it on

  • @FreyrFox
    @FreyrFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    if its performing on par with a $30 deskmat in most ways, and is loud [unless you pay extra still] and smaller otherwise, I think im gonna go for a $30 deskmat
    tacky logo

    • @viiltelijamurhaaja7225
      @viiltelijamurhaaja7225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. Maybe worth it after all the accessories and stuff, but normal cloth is the best. I heard about aluminum one and maybe that's better

    • @evanteneralli6295
      @evanteneralli6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 artisan hien >>>

  • @Ryu-ix8qs
    @Ryu-ix8qs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:38 I was expecting a "pizza time" lmao

  • @starwarsnerd95
    @starwarsnerd95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I bought an aluminium mouse pad from corsair about 8-9 years ago now and it has been fantastic, best product they ever made even though I thought it was over priced when I bought it it has absolutely been worth it 10x over

    • @12chrisrob
      @12chrisrob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yeah same for me I still use my MM600 that I bought in 2015. Wonderful pad and I wouldn’t go back to a non-metallic pad.

    • @nazmulfahad3044
      @nazmulfahad3044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using mm350 pro from Corsair. Also have a backup Logitech g240. Both have been excellent servant to me. Although Corsair one is less sensitive to humidity

    • @jjjacer
      @jjjacer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How well do your mouse skids/feet last on them, almost all the offices ive seen people use hard surfaces for their mice (glossy wood tops, glass tops) is that the feed wear fast and eventually they burn through to the point the feet are gone and the mouse is rubbing on its plastic, which is also starting to wear. sure it moves ok across the surfaces but after the feet wear off it starts to feel gritty.

    • @starwarsnerd95
      @starwarsnerd95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12chrisrob I think my one is the mm600 but from before corsairs "yellow" phase so it has the origional corsair logo with plain black surfaces on both sides, it may actually be older than I thought it was.

    • @12chrisrob
      @12chrisrob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starwarsnerd95 Mine is the one with the original corsair logo as well and the line is red, not yellow.

  • @NigelMelanisticSmith
    @NigelMelanisticSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3D Printer nerds have gone from Glass Print Beds to Glass Mousepads.

  • @nioxic77
    @nioxic77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still got an old black Icemat lying around
    it's quite small compared to todays mousepads, but it's also tempered glass etc. looks very much like that one tbh
    though it's too noisy IMO.
    I like the elements ice from GGMR - though it's hard to clean

  • @Brotiussy
    @Brotiussy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still using my 2nd edition Icemat from 2005. They're extremely durable can be washed in a dishwasher.
    Only bad thing is the thumb nail on right hand is always a bit thinner where it scrapes the glass.

  • @demometalico8074
    @demometalico8074 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, a short-circuit video about skypad. Been my favorite for about 6 months now

  • @Kamel419
    @Kamel419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I got an Icemat when I was younger and spent most of my life gaming on a glass mousepad (I'm 36, that was around 2003-ish). It appears to be very similar to this. Here are my thoughts on gaming on a glass mousepad:
    1. The sound never really bothered me or anyone else, but I've been lucky enough that I've always had a private space to game.
    2. The consistency is the best attribute. I still have my mousepad, and it has the exact same friction as the day I got it. The only reason I stopped using it is it's too small. (also slightly suspect this is why they stopped making them - never need to buy another one).
    3. Palm sweat accumulates on the pad and so I found that I would wipe it off somewhat frequently. It didn't really impact my aiming though
    4. Tracking is way better than you might expect. Even super old mice like my razer diamondback 3g tracked on it perfectly, but some super cheap mice couldn't track on it (I'm going to assume this wont be a problem with any modern mouse).
    5. The lip of the glass against your wrist/forearm can rub and get a little bit irritated but honestly once you get used to it you forget about it all together.
    6. I was so worried about my mousepad at first, I carefully wrapped it each time I moved etc. Turns out it was for nothing, that thing is a tank. I've dropped it on concrete no issues at all. It is substantially smaller than these though, so I suspect these won't be as invincible.
    7. The paint on my Icemat began to flake away some on the bottom. It was black and the glass was frosted, so I filled it in with a sharpie and it worked perfectly.
    8. If you don't have mouse feet and/or the bottom wears too far down you can get a suction effect going on when lifting that's literally unplayable but hilarious. Fun for hours if you're ADHD like me.
    9. For best results use a new mouse with it from day one. The mousepad preserves the condition of the mouse and feet nearly never need changing. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't experience it first hand, but usually the "crappy mouse feel" comes from a mouse that's been tainted by being used on non-glass surfaces. This even extends to things you don't think of like stickers getting curled and snagged on cloth pads then scratching the mousepad.

    • @tili_
      @tili_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i heard glass pads delete mouse feet

    • @Kamel419
      @Kamel419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tili_ that isn't my experience with the icemat anyway. My mouse feet never got low enough to need replacement. Not sure how that would change across different ones though

  • @C.r.i.m.s.o.n
    @C.r.i.m.s.o.n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, Linus sure changes a lot every couple of videos

  • @sorak185
    @sorak185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had a pair of Icemat frosted glass pads for a good 14 years now, they are magnificent. Unbelievably smooth with good mouse feet, like on my G5.

  • @charliefox8311
    @charliefox8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Glorious "Element air" has been my go-to for a while. It's a 0.5mm piece of polycarbonate with very subtle texturing (kind of like an insanely high grit sandpaper) that lightly adheres to your desk. They're crazy easy to clean, last a couple years of regular use, and cost $25.

  • @ricardocamejomedilusa1038
    @ricardocamejomedilusa1038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you need to get the skypad 3.0 to test properly, 50% more faster and less noise and thiner

  • @andres4484
    @andres4484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I already have one of those, it came with my case.

  • @Enthayl
    @Enthayl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an owner of 3 of these Skypads (SkyPad XL 2.0[x2] and the new SkyPad XL 3.0) these are the best pads I've used in years. The noise you're probably hearing is some grime gummed up your your mouse feet. A new mouse or one with the teflon feet is super smooth and I don't hear a thing. Come on Riley!

  • @mkygod
    @mkygod ปีที่แล้ว

    The best one i ever tried was the "Corepad" which i still use to this day. It has a grill mark pattern like what you would see on a microwave or oven window. It's very slick and not matted or frosted like the Skypad (or the icemat that came before it). And it sits on a foam pad instead of rubber feet. All this makes it very quiet and just a little more noisy than a cloth mousepad. Also as with most glass mousepads, theyre very easy to clean.

  • @isaaccooke1892
    @isaaccooke1892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You also have to be very aware of the flatness of your desk/surface when using a hard top pad. If it's off by enough you're in wobble city.

  • @zzzacksnacxx1407
    @zzzacksnacxx1407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    who ever said KY jelly had me crying

  • @ShannonVampire5320
    @ShannonVampire5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been using an old Steel Series I-2 glass mouse pad for probably around 12 years now. I can't stand using mice on anything other than the tempered glass now. I've been so afraid of the day it might break and they don't make anything like it anymore. But now it doesn't seem I have to worry anymore. I think I'll try one of these.

  • @Wipspeed
    @Wipspeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember back in the day of 2006 using "The Icemat Mouse Pad" which is also made out of tempered glass. The only problem i had with it back then was when a little bit of dust or cat hair was on the mouse pad, you could feel it through the mouse and sometimes hear it

  • @qwertyferix
    @qwertyferix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Time to test mice with glass skates on a glass pad!

  • @pulsebuster4515
    @pulsebuster4515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    issue with it being glass it'll be freezing to use in winter that's why I prefer fabric.

  • @Degenerecy
    @Degenerecy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to use one of those 5 star ones as my old one dragged way too much, felt like carpet. Then the notebook warped. Still for the months I used it, it was the best, even grabbed a piece of pressed board(extra shelf from desk) and glued the cover on it. Didn't work too well. However it was the easiest to clean, wipe if off and it is as good as new.

  • @xbxb
    @xbxb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you doing to do that circular big motion? When I want a big left or right mouse movement, I just lift the mouse ever so slightly then swipe, swipe, swipe. My mouse barely move that much.

  • @NoSwitchyt
    @NoSwitchyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These might be cool if they came clear. Then you could get one to sit on top of your desk pad and keep the aesthetics.

    • @yaro_sem
      @yaro_sem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Optical mouse will not work on clear glass. Most mice are optical. Watch video "How does a Mouse know when you move it?..." from Branch Education

    • @UndrRatedEnt
      @UndrRatedEnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@yaro_sem ??? Thats not true at all lol I have a clear glass top on my desk and my MSI clutch GM30 works perfectly fine

    • @yaro_sem
      @yaro_sem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UndrRatedEnt use a microscope and see if you have scratches and roughness on the glass. By design, an optical mouse CAN'T work if it's not seeing surface details, which good new glass will not have at all. Watch that video.

  • @justinedzard
    @justinedzard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still using my Razer Scarab from back in 2011, I don't think glass will replace my regular hard pad soon

    • @SpideyDiG
      @SpideyDiG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was using my Razer Scarab up till one year ago then switched to a Zowie GSR and now the original glass Icemat. The Scarab I used for well over 10 yrs as it’s a perfect hard mousepad and works very well.

    • @justinedzard
      @justinedzard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpideyDiG Yep, it's small enough and got a carrying case, perfect to carry around

  • @Skywalker8510
    @Skywalker8510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering the fact that you guys put so much effort into the ltt mousepad I’m not surprised that you couldn’t really feel a difference.

  • @TheRogueAdventurers
    @TheRogueAdventurers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a glass topped desk, and my mouse wouldn't work properly on it, it might have been because the glass was thick before the black background so it distorted the sensor?

  • @Girz0r
    @Girz0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Long time Icemat user here.
    It's still going, and still kicking ass for FPS. The etching on the glass will eventually wear down and there will be less noise. You will go through mouse feet but w/e. Also, the pad will form weird optical reflections that the mouse will pick up. Spinning your character a million miles in a circle.
    Other than that I still love this thing.

    • @Peterpiperspickledpeppers
      @Peterpiperspickledpeppers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I shouldn’t have to wait for the product I bought to be the same as a cloth

  • @dahuman
    @dahuman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Man I've never been so not interested in something mouse related before, way too expensive and makes no difference for gaming for me personally since my mouse sensitivity is usually pretty high so I don't even need a pad that big.

    • @khandave143
      @khandave143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, i play on a really high sens and mousepads size M/L are more than enough for me.

    • @iamaemerald2869
      @iamaemerald2869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a difference if you use any after market mouse feet.

  • @Da_Thaxu
    @Da_Thaxu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been using a glass mousepad for years now.. feels nice and smooth. Also easy to keep clean.

  • @DJCW_
    @DJCW_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been useing the same Icemat 2nd Edition since 2006. This is just what I've been looking for as i always wanted a bigger one.

    • @profosist
      @profosist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Precisely why I picked one up.

  • @distelmarc
    @distelmarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the problem i always run into with cloth mousepads is that they get real dirty real fast, and usually they are dark colored so it really shows. Yeah, I can clean it, but it is much easier and quicker to clean a hard pad than a cloth pad

  • @ApfelJohannisbeere
    @ApfelJohannisbeere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Please get the teflon feet and test this again, I really am curious about the decibel and the smoothness/accurateness of this.

    • @ehdbom
      @ehdbom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      both feet are teflon/ptfe. Logitechs teflon feet are from experience though a little worse than corepads.

  • @akiraokami
    @akiraokami 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That noise really grates my ears, obviously can't make a complete statement without trying it in real life compared to how the mic picks up the sound, but pretty sure I would not be able to use that for any extended period of time based on how much the noise gets to me.

  • @GeekGarageDK
    @GeekGarageDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's funny how old tech gets a new life. back in the days when we ran frosted mouse pads, we just used teflon tape, the brown stuff like 3M 5451 and cut a few strips and taped on our mouse. cheap AF and that mouse had absolutely no friction what so ever. i think i still have a roll some where.

  • @davehumphries
    @davehumphries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Idk feels like they should have used the feet as a third (or fourth if they want to do it on the LTT mat as well) comparison.

    • @ehdbom
      @ehdbom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      true, but most likely no difference since both are ptfe/teflon.

    • @ehdbom
      @ehdbom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just different brandings, although Logitech stock is somewhat worse than the ones Skypad sell (corepads)

    • @davehumphries
      @davehumphries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ehdbom wasn't aware of that, thanks

  • @myanime101
    @myanime101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they probably used the worst possible mouse to try on that pad

  • @kyousuke6902
    @kyousuke6902 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iam using a random glass plate I took from the kitchen for a while now and it's quiet and so smooth feels like moving around an airhockey puck no friction at all

  • @Cruzz999
    @Cruzz999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love glass mypads. I've used the one shown off in this video for years, and they're fantastic. I'd say the best thing is how easy they are to clean, not to mention the feeling of using it.

  • @SpookySkeletonGang
    @SpookySkeletonGang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These are definitely for the more hardcore mouse enthusiasts. You see people on r/mousereview using these a lot. They do have a lot better glide and speed compared to something like a cloth pad, but there are some obvious downsides. And now that we're getting more glass mouse feet I think glass pads are going to die out.

    • @felicityc
      @felicityc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glass mouse feet were already tried and they sucked hardcore. They were really bad.
      It's actually less the speed and more the consistency.

  • @aviation_mv
    @aviation_mv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Me who uses no mouse pad😏

  • @marlo25alpha
    @marlo25alpha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plouffe being the resident ShortCircuit guy is great. He's so chill and nice.

  • @edwardkenway4659
    @edwardkenway4659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE Plouffe so much, having a honest to goodness mouse and keyboard enthusiast at LMG is awesome

  • @cncmasterw
    @cncmasterw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i still rock my icemat i have had for almost 12 years.
    I also feel using what looks like a crappy ergo mouse on a glass mousepad shouldn't be used for comparison. I use a G502 on my icemat and boy is it quiet. maybe not as much with cloth but with headphones i don't hear it.

    • @EliteProductions3129
      @EliteProductions3129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Crappy ergo mouse? It's a G303..

    • @cncmasterw
      @cncmasterw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EliteProductions3129 " Looks like a crappy ergo mouse " Those are words i chose yes.
      take away about 50-60$ to the price-tag of the mouse because of the wireless function and boom. its a 60$ mouse. While good to those who prefer those styles... it looks like a ergo mouse and not one id personally ever use.
      It having two huge mouse pads might affect the performance of the glide... and also note that because its been primarily used by a cloth mouse-pad stuff gets stuck under the teflon skids, which causes that grinding noise.
      There are little minor things about having a glass mousepad I happily deal with over a cloth mousepad... The biggest positive here.. If well taken care of, the glass mousepad will last your gaming lifetime.

  • @NienawidzeTaStrone
    @NienawidzeTaStrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    feel like this would end very badly if someone raged and smashed their mouse against it

    • @ROADRAGE21
      @ROADRAGE21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the skypad 2.0, it's built like a tank. I dropped it on the floor and the floor got damaged.

    • @tmarritt
      @tmarritt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your mouse would break first.

  • @Pulverpojken
    @Pulverpojken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Corsair MM600 Aluminum mousepad since early 2015. Such a great value. If you find a hard surface pad that you like you should get it. It's extremely high value since they don't really wear out.

  • @TheJQ54
    @TheJQ54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a metal mouse pad that has two separate textures on each side called a BX01 made by Blade Hawks and it has been amazing.

  • @ROADRAGE21
    @ROADRAGE21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I play overwatch at a pretty high level (4.1k peak) and I can whole heartedly say that it is the best mousepad on the market. I have an artisan hien and a g640 and switching from the hien to the skypad I went from 100k in gridshot to 120k in less than a week. not the best but still very VERY good.

    • @rufiooo7
      @rufiooo7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just out of curiosity, are you a wrist aimer? I feel like this isn’t the one for lower sens

    • @ROADRAGE21
      @ROADRAGE21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rufiooo7 I use my fingers for micro adjustments, wrist for aim and arm for close range aim and for 180 flicks, I have a 28cm/360. I have used it for arm aiming with a 48cm 360 numerous times in tac fps games the stopping power is there so it won't be bad by any stretch of the imagination but for tac fps I would recommend an artisan zero or if you want something cheaper a g640 or gp4. if you want a LOT of control and move your hand a lot the gpz1 isn't a terrible choice either just make sure you palm grip or palm claw with it because micro adjustments are practically impossible and leads to inflammation very fast

    • @Z3t487
      @Z3t487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ROADRAGE21 I play the old school Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory fps game on PC and my accuracy went from barely 30 accuracy to consistently 40 most of the time with hitscan smg guns (that have huge weapon spread to control in this game if these accuracies seem low to you) just using a 122 cm mousepad and lowering my eDPI to 400. I'm on about the 100 cm/360 sensitivity.
      I want to go even lower sensitivity with an even lighter lighter mouse and bigger mousepad (160x80 cm) and soon as i have a good high quality desk big enough for that monstrous mousepad.
      Ultra low sensitivity, ultra huge mousepad and light mouse = easy flicks and still room for a full 360 on a single swipe. You are just a tiny bit slow for the 360. It's just not as crazy fast as on high sensitivity, but you can be way more consistent aimer.

    • @abnormallynormal8823
      @abnormallynormal8823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “The best mousepad on the market”
      But also
      “Not the best, but very good”

    • @Moon_Presence
      @Moon_Presence 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      People still play Overwatch?

  • @Mint-tk5zn
    @Mint-tk5zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lol, I just watched baordzy’s review on this

  • @drichcymru
    @drichcymru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still rocking my 20 year old Icemat. I just buy self adhesive teflon off ebay and cut it to the shape of my mouse feet. Replace them every 4 to 6 months. Bought a meter of the stuff about 5 years ago and i've still got some left.

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a smooth Razer mousepad that sticks to my desk, only was like $10 or $15 and I love it for FPS games. I can blow on my mouse and it slides across lol.

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cloth pads are superior in every respect EXCEPT maintenance. Cleaning them is a horrible pain

    • @SanderEvers
      @SanderEvers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, I just put my cloth mousepad in the washing machine. Works perfectly.

  • @Belgaer
    @Belgaer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who uses a glass mousepad for gaming every day, I definitely feel like the Skypad was misrepresented here. This review was terrible.

    • @ehdbom
      @ehdbom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not sure I am myself a fan of these hard mousepads but other reviews on this mousepad has praised it so seeing this video was kind of weird.

    • @austin.paquette
      @austin.paquette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, if the Teflon pads are the make or break for the performance of the mat, I think the company should've considered sending some. They sent $500+ worth of mats in different colours and sizes, but didn't spring to send them any of the $8 feet? It didn't really help their case. It's not LMG's job to go out and buy the stuff required for the type of content on this channel.

    • @red_wheelbarrow641
      @red_wheelbarrow641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am curious how does it feel when its a hot day in summer? -is there a better feeling to it or worse compared to the "regular ones"?

    • @Belgaer
      @Belgaer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@austin.paquette Funny thing is, that Logitech G303 Shroud mouse they’re using in the video already comes with PTFE feet (Teflon is a trademarked name, not the actual name of the material). Most mice do these days. So I have no idea why those feet are so loud against the skypad in that video. I’ve tried several types of PTFE feet on my glass pad and it’s never been that loud. It’s possible the feet need to broken in, which is more of a Logitech issue than an issue with the mouse, because that would be the case on any surface. As for them sending him skates, you make a good point, but he also says that the skypads were sent, but then later says that he bought them… so who knows.

    • @Belgaer
      @Belgaer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@red_wheelbarrow641 So, my hands will occasionally leave some moisture on my pad when my hand gets a bit sweaty, but it’s never affected the glide in the way humidity affects most cloth pads.
      EDIT: I just realized you may not be talking about the glide, you might be talking about how it feels against your skin maybe? Hard to tell how you meant it. I’ve never needed an arm sleeve like this guy goes on about. I’m not exactly dragging my arm every which way. It’s worth noting that you don’t need to arm aim with a glass pad. One of the reasons I use a glass pad is because I have an old shoulder injury and a glass pad lets me wrist aim without losing the ability to flip around whenever needed, and without having my shoulder pain flair up. It’s not like I drag my whole forearm across my pad every time I make adjustments. Besides, the guy has a hoodie on… so he definitely gets no use out of the sleeve.

  • @xPetpet01
    @xPetpet01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I have a litteral glass at an xl size of a steelseries mousepad is it ok for gaming? dad doesnt use it anymore since its an extra glass windows on house

  • @a11aaa11a
    @a11aaa11a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the conversation from mm to cm, very helpful 😂

  • @NeoCyrus777
    @NeoCyrus777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A 14.5 minute video that presented almost no relevant information that a mousepad review should...
    It's a glass speed pad FFS, even with the garbage stock Logitech impure PTFE it should still glide significantly better than on any fabric pad.

  • @PitboyHarmony1
    @PitboyHarmony1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Its kind of disingenuous to do this without the teflon pads as recommended by the mousepad manufacturer ... and then complain about the noise. Anyone who wants and pays this much for a hard pad, is going to happily shell out for the pads. This review went half way ... and stayed there. LTT didnt give this a fair shake.

    • @yajaman
      @yajaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm assuming that the manufacturer sent them these mousepads for review like a lot of the products on here. If so, it was also 100% on them to send the teflon mousefeet as well

    • @ehdbom
      @ehdbom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well here’s the problem the mouse already has PTFE/teflon feet on it from factory. Although Logitechs stock feet are not as good as say corepads which Skypad recommemded, they are still very close and there shouldn’t be a huge difference.

    • @PAPAEMU
      @PAPAEMU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little annoying he didn’t know the prices or facts and had to ask someone off camera for info over and over.

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mousepads was sent to them from the maker, and they didn't include the feet, so they get a bad review.

  • @eyemastervideo
    @eyemastervideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the surface just straight up glass, or is it frosted, or even coated in teflon? I would think that just unfrosted glass would be sticky, even if you have teflon pads on your mouse.

  • @emmanuelferguson
    @emmanuelferguson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Currently using the Glorious Element Ice that I got on sale with a G Pro Superlight, can't really think of a better experience. It's to my smoothness with just enough friction to feel in control. One thing to note is that you've gotta keep it pretty clean (just water on a rag every now and then) to maintain that performance, but upside is your mousepad is alway clean.

  • @applebottomjeansbootswitht6745
    @applebottomjeansbootswitht6745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an old Steelseries glass mouse pad! Glass mousepads were used for the times when we used ball mice!

  • @Thunderdkfox
    @Thunderdkfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brings me back to the old days. all i knew where using Icemat. we used teflon tape on the mouse feet to lower the noise.

  • @bionicgeekgrrl
    @bionicgeekgrrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This kinda reminds me of the mouse pad that came with the optical/laser mouse for the Sun workstations my father had when I was a kid in the early 90s (he worked for Sun, hence having them). They were so much nicer than the ball mice on PC of the time.

  • @tabeseb
    @tabeseb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be curious to know how it feels after a few hours of gaming. My hands sweat a little after a bit, and i wonder if that would streak on the glass

  • @Bagelzend
    @Bagelzend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still got my Icemat from way back when, loved that thing so much. My mate who I lived with at the time, not so much.

  • @bestbattle
    @bestbattle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you buy a borosilicate glass (used for 3D printers beds) and use it as a mousepad?

  • @fkthewhat
    @fkthewhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this presenter. Very calming! The mousepad reminds me a lot of the build plate of my 3D printer. Wouldn’t it get a bit cold?!

  • @level8473
    @level8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what i've been looking for, I'm sure I won't hear the noice since I'd be blasting sounds through my headset, and since it's glass it's probably easy to clean and won't wear down over the years.

  • @Sophistry0001
    @Sophistry0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how slick and quiet it is with the special mouse feet. That should really be a package deal when you buy the glass pad, you get to choose a set of the mouse feet for the mouse you use.

  • @bbqR0ADK1LL
    @bbqR0ADK1LL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used a Razer hard mouse mat for years & it was good. It didn't have that horrible sound.
    I got a Logitech hard mat for my desk at work too. I was getting skips from the desk surface & that solved it.

  • @Bengy22
    @Bengy22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would be a lot more interested in buying one if I could get one the same size as my Glorious xl or the same size as the ltt one, need to fit my keyboard on top.

  • @reggiep75
    @reggiep75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I found that I couldn't go wrong with an A3 self healing cutting mat. Hard wearing, mildly textured surface, no snagging, no uber gliding.

    • @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
      @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmm, I thought about using a hard polyurethane sheet, and this about confirms that it's worth giving it a shot.

    • @reggiep75
      @reggiep75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart - Everything is worth a try but I can wholeheartedly recommend using a cutting mat. 👍

  • @patrickang7739
    @patrickang7739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That grinding sound - I'm not sure who in the right mind would consider this an option

  • @paradockz
    @paradockz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    have had my skypad for at least a year now, absolutely love it and don't want to use cloth ever again. most mice i would consider good, already come with teflon feet lol, and i've replaced mine one time in the time i've had the pad

  • @niqmb
    @niqmb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other reason to consider hard mousepad is the advantage of easy to clean/wipe and last longer. I'm using Razer Vespula V2 for few years with no issues (too bad it's no longer on sale).

  • @DegustoDelSol
    @DegustoDelSol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a very old SteelSeries hard pad, now called QcK and only in one size, while when i bough it they had big one and small to choose. Don't want to go back to normal ones, due to rigidity, its because im using it on my bed and normal pads roll up :)

  • @BrandonJanoski
    @BrandonJanoski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ceramic Mouse feet + Hard Mouse Pad is my favorite combo. The ceramic Mouse feet never wear down, but you do have to increase your mouse lift off range.

  • @williamcoburn4486
    @williamcoburn4486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is an AWESOME ad for LTT store desk mats

  • @DestructoMutant
    @DestructoMutant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a hard glorious mouse pad and it's what I prefer but there are some issues. Noise can be annoying but the thing that bothers me the most is when there is random particles that ruin the glide. Even when it looks completely clean, there can still be some random scraping that occurs.

  • @bloink3511
    @bloink3511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you had the colors stacked up it looks like the cutting board set at my work

  • @aaronbraich6262
    @aaronbraich6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an aluminium Corsair mouse pad. It has a smooth or a rougher side but it's sometimes scratchy and skips over tiny bits of dust or something you can't even see and I have to clean it weekly along with my mouse.

  • @sergiofagundes1972
    @sergiofagundes1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A friend of mine made these mousepads a long time ago, really long time ago, tempered glass, polished on one side, sandblasted, semireflexive paint and rubberized paint on the other. On a semicircle shape to follow movement from side to side. Yes the noise was louder than cloth but man, those things were smoother as water. But was the wrong time, the gamer pro doesn't even existed these years.

  • @zurgtheone
    @zurgtheone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i used to have the old IceMat glass pads back in the days, still miss it due to how easy it was to keep clean and just felt better for a long time compare to normal mousepads. but due to new ''lazer'' mouse was becoming a think they had trouble working on it. a lot of the times it would just start spinning around or move the wrong direction.
    only minus was the thinkness. long period of gaming would hurt a bit. so if i ever go back i would make it built-in my desk. so its nice and flush.

  • @mattdivito3581
    @mattdivito3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting to see how many people don't realize how diverse mousepads used to be in eSports years ago.
    Icemat (aka SteelSeries) made frosted glass mousepads back in 2001.