Technology a $75k 2016 Ford F450 should have!
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- Since obviously a crap load of people don't understand the point of this video, I'll explain. Previous comments have made me out to be a "ford Fan boy" apparently. This video was simply made to point out that I didn't just blindly buy a Ford Super Duty and think it was the best truck out there without even considering trucks from RAM and GM. When you are spending over $70k on a truck, it's smart to look at what you're getting for that money. If I were buying a base model or even a mid line model, then "little details" might not be as important to me. If I were buying this truck to use exclusively at our ranch (Ranch truck) then I also wouldn't care about many of the luxury features. This truck is primarily used to pull our Fifth Wheel, the occasional Goosneck at the ranch as well as other "toys" comfortably and over long distances (with my family). It sounds so stupid to hear comments from people saying "It's a truck, you're supposed to abuse it, dent it, drop blocks from 5' into the bed, and let it get scratched and rust". These comments obviously come from kids who have never had an expensive vehicle or simply never had to pay for their vehicle. Furthermore, if they did buy a new vehicle just to treat like crap, then they have no appreciation for property or care little about resale value. I've owned trucks that were older and had over a hundred thousand miles on them. And yes, I was more likely to abuse them and not really care for them cosmetically. However, when you grow up and start spending some real hard earned money on vehicles (especially newer ones) you tend to treat them with more care. Shoot, I wanted every vehicle I owned to look good, regardless of how much it cost or how many miles were on it. Again, the point of this video is that when you are spending a crap ton of money on a new vehicle, you do need to shop around, look at ALL the differences in both features and function that other brands put into their trucks and make an informed, educated buying decision. The things like Push Button start as well as a slow dropping tailgate might not be an important or noteworthy feature to someone buying a XTL F150, or RAM Tradesman, or Silveraldo because the feature isn't available on them at that price. When you are in the $70k+ category, the trucks become so well equipped that every detail "should" matter, including stupid little things like the things I mentioned. End of Rant. Sponsored items may be in this video. Research all sources before making a purchasing decision. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
this truck is made to do work and make money not a luxury cruiser.
whoodiestyle: it's not an XL package friend. It's a platinum truck that costs $40k more than a "truck designed to work and make money". Though it does work well towing and doing work
whoodiestyle my Chevy Duramax high country is super luxury and I paid 60,000. and my truck also has all the features discussed in this video.
Joe Mckay: I'm sorry, but your truck does not. Actually, it lacks ALL the features I mentioned aside from the soft dash and better door seals and front parking sensors. Still No rear AC vents AT ALL. No soft drop tailgate, No HID headlights (projector but not HID),
Big Truck Big RV I have soft drop tailgate
Joe Mckay. Didnt know that. Thanks
Buys a f450, expects to be a 2016 s class :/
rj c well Mercedes just released a pickup so his problem is solved 😂😂
Never did he say anything like that. He just mentioned some very minor features that he would have liked that other trucks provide. Just because you're ok with a shit package doesn't mean everyone else has to.
samuel ellis.... he must have been satisfied because he bought the truck. stop being pretentious and think about your insults before you spew them. fucking A class idiot.
Samuel Ellis wow you guys rly overreact
Connor Forhan
Shut the fuck up.
Be glad you have a key. Push buttons fail. Keys will always work
Grant Sipos: Great point! I tend to agree. I've had 5 vehicles personally with Push Button start and it really is convenient when your hands are full and you're trying top open your tailgate or get into your truck without fishing for your keys. Also, key ignitions do get worn out if you have alot of stuff hanging from you keys. I'm fine with it, but it's just something that would have been nice.
Grant Sipos not true. Many keys are chipped keys that communicate with a black box under the dash. Black box fails the key won't work.
no chip in the key of a 1993! if it has a chip its a key shaped computer. not a real key
Remember when all trucks used to be cheap, tough, and dependable, doesn't matter what brand? I miss those days.
ThatGearHead: That was back in the 70s or 60s my friend. Trucks have gradually become far more expense than most cars. Shoot, my first Chevy 2500HD back in 2002 was $45,000 and that was 16 years ago.
Hehe you should see the European market trucks. The whole 'Trucks as luxury vehicles' thing has only come over here in the last 3-4 years. So essentially all of our trucks up until very recently are mechanically simple, cheap & tough. Most of what we use I think would be American mid size (Ford Ranger sized) with 2.5-3.0L turbo diesels.
The XL is pretty basic and 25k cheaper. I dont miss manual windows and door locks which as of 2016 it was still an option, probably still is.
Push button start is terrible, and so are those HUGE fobs that go with them. Those things are meant to go in a purse, not a pair of jeans.
Damn straight.
they can cost up to $1000 to fix... just stick with key ignition.
push buttons starts can be hacked and are quite easy
The worst thing about push button start is walking away from the car or truck and leaving it running. Don't laugh, it's happened to everyone I know when they first brought a vehicle with this feature. But I've NEVER done something silly like that myself ☺️
Army Vet13 normal cars can also be hacked
I only wish they would bring back vent windows.
Agreed
Install one yourself lazy ass
Ok. Heres what im seeing here. YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A FLIPPIN CADILLAC OR BMW! Seriously? Complaining about lack of flashy tech and having hd wheels on a ton and a half truck? Damn thing is meant to do real work. These aernt luxury trucks! A f450 is meant to earn its keep not pull around a weekend camper! If you absolutely needed a diesel pick, a 1 ton would have been plenty of truck. And guess what? Every FLIPPIN auto maker has been using hard plastic in they're vehicles and they've been doing that for 30+ years! And push to start belongs no where near a hd truck!
Isaac Housley for $75000, I'd be disappointed too.
it's meant to work, but for 75,000, i'd want to work in more comfort than he can
Isaac Housley you don't know what you are talking about. Platinums are all about luxury. Sitting in a truck all day can either be very comfortable or it can be terrible. When it's my money on the line I always pick comfortable. Drive a couple hours with air conditioned seats then switch to an old school vinyl bench seat. Fancy trucks are awesome to spend time in. Why would you want a crappy uncomfortable rig to ride around in?
Tyler Proud ultimately hes b*tching about the lack fancy gadgets and other items completely inconsequential to the actual comfort of the truck. Also from what i have seen, if you want a comfortable ford truck, just get a lariat or king ranch. All you get with the platinum is a few little fancy trinkets and some fancy trim panels. It's really not worth the extra money in my opinion. At least with the extra cost of the king ranch, you get a leather interior.
And dont get me started on just how stupid of an idea a soft open tailgate is
Didn't include a, "slow opening tail-gate"
Didn't even know that there was such a thing.
Just hold the gate until it's down, no??
It can be hard to do that when your hands are full. It sounds unnecessary but once you have one you'll never go without.
It's a tailgate on a truck. Just let it drop, for cryin' out loud!
playsinmud stupidest thing I ever heard. No one listen to this. Slow tailgates are great. Power tailgates are where it's at. Do not let your tail gate drop freely. Mine has a step an led light and a back up camera. Crazy expensive to replace.
Tyler Proud They are engineered to drop. The manufacturers torture test these things and abuse them far more than most owners ever will. Saying that what I said I the stupidest thing you've ever heard makes me want to think that you're either very sheltered, or get butthurt at the drop of a....tailgate. See what I did there? lol
playsinmud you are giving bad advice. The only thing I'm sheltering is my expensive tailgate from excessive abuse. When it's your tailgate be as dumb as you want to be. I don't care how beat up your truck is. You can abuse it till your hearts content. Drive around in a beat up abused truck that you paid $75000 for. That's your right.
the problems your talking about are not really problems
anyone buying an F450 is normally using it in extreme conditions and needs to be built beyond its needs but at the same time things like the tail lights need to be fixable on the go that's why they are still the oldys because you can get them in any parts store and even most filler stations
if you want a loaded truck your best option is to buy an XL with the extras you wanted then have a shop add on the bits and bobs that way is cheapest
the reason you payed 75k is that strip of "platinum" makes the price jump 10k just for the trim level
VK70001.P: please do me a favor....read the factor options included with the platinum trim and then do A side by side spec comparison to a XL trim.....
Big Truck Big RV i understand what your saying but an XL is like 50k-60k and a platinum is 70-80 i dont see 20-30 thousand dollars is differences in options name 1 thing your platinum has that an XL dont have
wanna know what a 2016 youtube video should come with?
more than 360p
I don't understand people. They buy a fully loaded work truck, and expect features that 100,000 dollar Mercedes have. Seriously, it's a work Truck not a Maybach.
Bernard Mozejko: No, a work truck is an XL Package Super Duty that sells for $30k. This is a Platinum package that sells for $45k more
Yes, but anything bigger than a 150 or 1500 is classified as a work Truck. Majority of the people buying those trucks use it for work, not just a toy hauler or city driver.
no start button is a good thing
A 2016 $75,000 truck doesn't have push button start? That's crazy!
it should never have it either!!
I don't understand why push button start is such a desired feature... I dont have a problem with it, but my preference is still a standard key
this video should be titled "people who were actually dumb enough to spend over $30k on a Ford truck."
I hate the fact of trucks having push button start, push starts are for a Prius, not a truck
Daniel Klassen: Power windows should only be in luxury vehicles too right? Power door locks and shoot even power steering. Trucks are for messing up and only used to abuse. Great post!
You have a $75 thousand dollar truck but have a $25 dollar camera
Jaden Antal: filmed in 4k but compressed to 360p for quicker upload
if you didn't want 19.5s why'd you upgrade to a 450? a 350 will do exactly what your 450 will and you don't have to have the 19.5s. would have saved some money as well when you look at it there isn't much if any difference in the 350 and 450 and honestly speaking a 450 for what they're rated for are more truck than most people need without going to a sport chassis
$75k just for a truck with extra bells and whistle.... That's the reason why I always buy the work trucks and add the extra stuff I need on later for cheaper
The thing that blew my mind on the 2015 F350 I had, was the lack of a light to tell me when the washer fluid is low. Not sure if the higher end packages have it or not, but I figured if my uncle's old 1995 dodge cummins had it, the Ford should of had it too?
As far as power goes. If you don't really tow with the trucks you'll never notice the difference. The Ford is tuned to only deliver max power when needed, like pulling up hills etc. My 370hp/800tq Cummins felt like it would mop up my 440hp/860tq Ford when they were both unloaded.
Mac102004 Farms; you know, I test drove a 2016 RAM Laramie longhorn with the 30k towing package (4:10.1 and Aisin tranny, w/900lb ft), I liked the interior quite a bit, but really hated the way it felt while driving. It felt very surgy (like it really had a bad throttle response). I drove one back in 2013 and it felt the same way. Plus, the ride was horrible compared to my F450. Nice truck otherwise.
They say the Aisin is like that, I've never driven one. Mine is a 68RFE. Can't comment on the ride too much, the dodge was definitely better, but the Ford had an extra leaf in the rear for more payload I never drove it bone stock. One thing I did like about the Ford was the lighter steering feel, I find my Cummins is a bit stiff/heavy to steer. I also miss having the number pad on the door.
Mac102004 Farms: I actually have a ton of respect for your videos. I know ppl give me crap on here because they think I'm just whining about a truck. Unfortunately most ppl don't understand that the point of this video wasnt to complain, it was to explain to all the haters that commented on my other videos, claiming I was a "Ford Fan Boy" that I still found things about the other brands that I liked better than my F450. Most don't know. but we own quite a bit of property by the King Ranch (450 acres) and we have a mixture of vehicles we use out there. Most are Ford, but a few RAMs and a couple old GMCs. We raise cattle and also sell Hay Bales. I work as an Engineer, so we live in the City nearby. nice international in your video.
btw, we have a Terex 760B, at Genie GHT-844 (which maxes my towing out right at 31,050lbs, which is 50lbs shy of my max towing) and a Cat 420E. we have a few Big Tex and Kaufman gooseneck to tow them.
Thanks man. Not everybody understands that no truck, or any vehicle for that matter is perfect. They are all going to have their pro's and con's.
I must admit, I don't tow much with our trucks. We have a 20ft bumper pull rated for 10k lbs and that's all we need. My Ram is a 2015 3500, I would have went with the 2500 but I haul 2 ATV's on a sled deck and wanted the extra payload.
Take er' easy. Going to check out some more of your vids.
i have a sled deck, they sit on top of the box, not a trailer lol 3500 SRW, gets 20mpg....
I hope someone from FORD is watching fit and finish is a big deal in automotive products.
I would of never bought a Ford f-450 because if I would be towing I would go with a Cummins and not a powerstoke
Fuck ford
bigboyindaho0d fuck you
+camomaster94 Fuck me ? No fuck you !!
people in these comments don't understand. It doesn't matter what kind of vehicle it is. After it goes over a certain price point. Little nit picky things matter so much to quality of life. Weather its a production vehicle or not, you should not be using the same plastics and materials in your higher end models; Like how he complains how the dash. Thats ridiculous.
douglasdtlltd then don't buy a 75,000 dollar truck
Wouldn't trade my Ford for any of them.
except a chevy
like I said, any of them.
Come back of the year. Do you live your life one IFS at a time? :D
dre04mach lmao, you must not know anything about vehicles do you? I can tell that you must not know too much since you're a mustang fanboy, don't you have some crowds to run over? So pretty much, unless you're doing serious off-roading like rock crawling or going through mud pits ALL the time or putting massive tires 37+, IFS will do perfect. It rides a million times better and handles a million times better. You really made yourself look like a complete dumbass with that comment.
I only run over crowds in my solid front axle jeep, much better for reliability, but you wouldn't know anything about that. I hear those IFSs also last a very long time with a boosted launch... Especially those awesome tie rods they put on those things... ROFL.
Should have gone with GMC, best interior quality and with the new engine update its truly a workhorse!
I've had a Ram a Silverado an F250 and a F150. All have had different features that I liked and things I didn't like. Thanks for your honest approach to truck ownership.
I agree with all your points about downsides. Mine would also include Ford radios. Not quite on par with Ram. Still love my truck though.
What fool would buy an F-450 farm truck for luxury use
What fool would even buy a truck in the suburbs/city?
To make all the neighbors jealous.
HERO: because a civic can't tow a 14,000lb fifth wheel..........or can it........... plus we own a ranch in Kingsville, Tx......so.....have a good day
It's still a nice truck. Fords are the best.
Push button start actually has been around since the 1940's
Man I'll take a key ignition any day have you seen how much it costs to replace those crapy plastic push button ignitions when they brake
BloodyCobra/haroforever Thank you
BloodyCobra/haroforever same here my dads a dealer and if he has to replace a key for a car lets say he loses it, go to the dealer give them a vin number theyll give you a non chip key for $20 push button? Way outta there
BloodyCobra/haroforever they still have the key ignition so they can still get stolen easily lol
BloodyCobra/haroforever they still have the key ignition so they can still get stolen easily lol
if only people knew the amount of work and engineering it takes to accomplish the construction of a vehicle this intricate. sadly 75k isnt as much as i would think. try to build one yourself for 75k. you wouldnt even get the suspension done
Cody Moreland check out dieselsellerz give aways. They do it for a lot less all the time. This guy got fucked.
Holy cow dude who cares what sound the door makes? $75,000 buys you OCD.
You'd think differently about the push buttons when you're dealing with dead batteries in your fob. I'd take a key any day.
Dj Deertz; I've had 10 cars with push button. you know the fob works even with a dead battery.
Big Truck Big RV never had a car with a push button but my girlfriend does and has had a lot of problems with not being able to start it with a dead fob battery.
Dj Deertz; press the start button with the fob. the fob has an RFID chip in it ( just like regular keys) and still works.
I would much prefer a key to start, not a push button.
Fred Youpa push button is far better. It's no less likely to fail than a regular key which is electronic anyways and it's convenient as hell to just leave your key in your pocket and go.
someusername121 push button start won't work if the battery is dead
Flexi 02: Actually it will. Just like regular keys, a Wireless Keyfob has a Passive RFID chip in it. You can simply press the Start Button with the actual Keyfob and it will start, even with a dead battery.
this man expects a rolls Royce out of this truck, and who puts carpet in the bed just saying.
Most of what you mentionned are fit and finish issues, with a few exception being lack of features (parking sensors, push button start and slow-opening tailgate etc.)
The complaints about fit and finish issues on the truck are undeserved. At the end of the day, a Ford is a Ford and will have the fit & finish level of a Ford. This is an expensive ford because they load it full of performance upgrades to make it one heck of a capable tool, that's what you pay for.
Sure you could buy an Audi A4 with better fit and finish, and I feel like that's the benchmark you're giving this truck because it cost even more $, but I don't think it's a fair benchmark to have. You're essentially saying you expect the achievements of one product (fit and finish of a luxury vehicle) to be applied to another (heavy duty truck) because the second is as expensive and therefore should have it too. It's as unreasonable as complaining about the towing capacity of a bentley.
these wheels are designed to have a e+ rating on tires. it's designed to be a heavy duty truck, and used for towing
I think setting conditions for the video should have happened in order to give your audience an idea about your truck. Year, engine size, why you purchased the truck over another and not just what was offered with respect to comfort. Not a bad video. You do talk with a purpose and you don't stumble over your words like a lot of people do. Thanks for taking the time.
I'm sorry that you bought a 2016 instead of a 2017! you missed out!
The Fault in Our Cutie Marks: Not sure I missed out. I bought this truck in Oct 2015 and still upgrade soon
Big Truck Big RV Oh I see. I thought you'd keep the truck for a long time but I imagine it wouldn't keep any good resale value after 10 years or so...
Omg the tail gate comes down to fast what am I gonna do lmao city guys sir you need to stick with half tons
The slow opening tailgate already installed in factory would probably add $2k to the price
I don't even need to watch the video to agree. I actually own a new f450 king ranch and the features in it are non existent, even in comparison to the Gmc. Only good thing is the 6.7 powertrain. The top things it should have is blind spot alert and Heated steering wheel.
Deplorable#294,094,374 7 it has blind spot monitoring it's called a mirror
You have your own blind spot monitoring system, your neck.
This is what happens when Kids comment on grown men stuff they can't afford
When I meet a super duty on the highway, the low beams at night are still very bright. It's not safe to have all these extremely bright lights because there's no way of diming them for oncoming vehicles. If you want extra light, buy a 20 inch light bar to put in the bumper and call it a day. So much light more light when needed and can be turned off
Did you actually look at this before you bought it? In 3 words, I can answer all your problems: IT'S A TRUCK. Good luck with it.
We bought a 2008 F-450 last year, (2015), and after the engine blew out, air conditioning died, two sensors went out, and the turbo died.... It's a really nice truck. Fortunately we bought the extended warranty so we only have about 1500$ in repairs, but I was disappointed that a truck with only 70,000 miles on it was so easily broken. It's been running great now and it is a beast. I still really like the truck...just hope the transmission dies before the warranty does!
I HATE push button starts. It's dumb, it dosent make it any harder to steal then a key, and it's expensive to replace.
Leona Suma lol try to steal a remote start car... you cant
"than a key". Than. Not then.
Paul Granado You can't steal a key either without taking apart things witch most newer cars you can't even take it out.
I know someone who payed $700 to replace it in her Nissan.
@Paul Grandao - Actually quite the opposite - they can be very easy to steal with the right tools. www.autoblog.com/2015/09/18/keyless-ignitions-car%20theft/
Everything you mentioned I have noticed on my 16' F250 Larriet except I have factory 20's. My sticker was $68K (with dealer addons) not what I paid.
Why did you buy the truck if there are so many cons you don't like about the truck
GamerTV456 because the good outweighs the bad by a long shot
Branson Becker true
Bud Williams wow, good one!
sooooo this dude bought a truck and then complains about it? makes sense
rich guy logic: oh it doesn't come with the built in diamond factory i wanted. . . better throw it away and have another one express ordered to my door overnight from a 3rd world universe until they get it right. . .
are you saying if you bought a very expensive car/truck you wouldn't complain? not one thing?
Joshua Brumbalow if you watched the first five seconds like I did you'd hear that he was talking about the cons because people gave him shit for talking about how much he loves it.
IMO, push button, auto start/stop, 360 deg camera and blind spot monitoring should all be standard on every new vehicle. These are low cost gadgets that can greatly enhance the convenience and safety of vehicles on the road but relatively difficult for the consumers to put in aftermarket. I know cars as lowly as the Honda Fit has them so why not these trucks?
If you don't like the 19.5" tire situation you shouldn't have bought a medium duty chassis.
Ford gets the payload and gooseneck tow ratings based on the load rating of the tires.
Also, when towing heavy the heavy sidewalk will help control sway better than your standard load range e tire.
Brad Sankey: Hey buddy, so you are incorrect here. However, you would THINK that the reason Ford put 19.5s were for the payload and towing...Not the case. The 19.5s are simply a marketing tool. Why? Because an F450 pickup will never have enough payload capacity to require the use of 19.5 Medium duty tires. Now, on the other hand, an F450 Classic Cab could. The difference in payload is almost 5000lbs between the pickup and Chassis Cab. Case in point, the RAM 3500 (properly equipped) has a higher payload and towing than the F450 but while using 17" tires. 19.5s sure look good, but aren't required. That's why they should have opted for a 20" wheel. I've learned alot about 19.5 wheels since buying my truck. Don't get me wrong, I love them, I just wish I had a greater tire upgrade option.
It's a truck not a gtr quit complaining about push button start
It is 75k and a Dodge Dart has push button start for 1/4 the price.
what the hell does push button start do for you? we have that crap at work on some of the ski boats, it sucks & doesn't always work as it should
wiibaron I really don't give a shit about push button... It's a waste of money to me.
Jack Rossman thing is it costs more than a gtr, and the platinum dually f-450 itself costs more than twice as much as the base model or even xlt model superdutys.
Yes its a work truck, but the gtr is a race car. Both "technically" shouldnt have any gadgets and wazzoos, but they do. And to have substandard low quality parts in these vehicles regardless of their purpose is shameful.
Jack Rossman Gtr? They come standard on a 17k Altima.
really now? i would take a key for my car/truck vs that dumb push button start.
That underpowered truck pulled the gauntlet 10 seconds faster than the Ram and its refinement absolutely kills this one. Enter the 2017 with all its new power and now it's even on paper the best if both worlds.
Ford has been using that same bed design for many years. From the back i would have thought it was a 2003 f450. Guess they don't want change it.
pros and cons to any brand/model and most people try to defend the brand they own (human nature) I think it depends on what you want to do with the truck each brand has their issues, if having push button start is a dealbreaker I guess you bought the right truck.
It's a truck. Not only does it not need all those things, it shouldn't have them. It should cost a bit less, but it is a truck, not a limo. Buy a new Peterbilt and see what you get. Pushbutton starting? Really? You're kidding right? That is an F450. It is a commercial truck, whether you like it or not. LED tail lights? My father in law had LED tail lights on his '02 Ram. One failed, and the whole assembly had to be replaced at over $300. Trucks don't need technology. They need to be tough and get the job done. For the next several decades. You want luxury? Get a Mercedes SUV
One thing that could have been mentioned, are the wheel flares on the Ford dually. Aren't they still separate composite pieces bolted to a standard bed? Whereas GM and Ram have incorporated dedicated dually beds, or at least body skins… But relatively minor downmarket details are to be expected of the Fords. It keeps the prices down, which makes Ford the commercial fleet sales leader that they are.
Not just non-LED taillights, there's no separate amber rear blinkers on the Super Duty! On a $15k Fiesta Ford throws that in with the $600 upgrade from a sedan to a hatchback...
The wheels remind me of the TRX ones on '80s Ford cars, particularly the Foxbody Mustangs.
So you bought a work truck and you complaining that there isn't luxury features
bobhilly546312156332 exactly
except he bought a 40k work truck with 35k worth of luxuries...
bobhilly546312156332 a platinum isn't a work truck.
Tyler Proud its a f450 superduty. It is a 1 and a half ton work truck It has 19.5 wheels. It a dually. Its a diesel. What part of the truck makes it not a work truck besides the platinum trim? If you look back, the f450 was designed to be a work truck. Ever heard of the f-super duty? Basically the f450 of the Late 1980s/ 1990s. You had to custom order one of those. So tell me again how a 1 and a half ton truck is not a work truck.
You have the the truck right between a commercial and a I would say residential this is more of a commercial grade so your not gonna get all of that super nice stuff. But it is a very nice rig
not really. I have the highest Luxury package Ford makes for the 2011-2016 Super Duty Pickup truck line. The 2017 model includes pretty much everything I want. Just evolution.
Wait 6 months and it will be worth $30,000
Wheel problem can be fixed with a sick ass set of american forces.
LED taillights suck if you live where it snows. When you get the snow swirling around the rear of the truck and sticking to the light, LEDs throw no heat, so it's more difficult to see them. Good old incandescent bulbs warm up the lens, melting some of snow and helping make them visible. If you run with your lights on, that is. I dislike automatic headlights because hardly anyone turns their lights on during the day in inclement weather and auto lights normally will not trigger because it's not dark enough. That's my ranting done. :)
to get solid sounding doors put dynamat or other sound deadner on the inside of the door
Should have bought a 2017 this platform this so old you can't compare it to newer platforms like the dodge with the leds and push to start. They are apples to oranges if you understand how the car market works.
i have an 02 F350 with the 7.3L. no emissions equipment to fail. doesn't make as much power as these new ones, but it never fails.
The push button start, sensors and slow tailgate are things that I would become fed up with. The door sound is not very big of a problem. The skylight I would rather do without. The parking sensors just become an obnoxious beeping. Something that would do better is off-road cameras. I agree with the lights though. To be a little to honest, this whole truck may not be worth it. If you won't be hauling with it than get a different one. When you do haul just live with it. I like small ford trucks. They seem to work so much better
I'd be really pissed if I spent that kind of money, when in the next year the truck is like 1000% improved!!
out of all of it one thing that you mentioned. on thing will bug me and it is not having 360 sensors. i bought a Nissan Titan XD 4x4 and im so gald that 20 + ft long. i would say maybe back the trucks where not made that bulky with less blind spots then now.
Yar Nunya , have you looked at the manual dodge? It's only rated at 660ft-lb of torque compared to the 900ft-lb of the automatic.
Would be nice if you could get everything you want in a single vehicle. Not sure about the push button start, it's more of a gimmick that everybody wants. Give me a key in a keyway any day, I could say if it aint broke don't fix it but gm proved other wise. So did ford when the had to stop production of the ranger because they were having problems with the rear axle. Pretty sure that a model T had one of those so this isn't like this is new tech. Probably a bean counter thing saved 2 cents per axle only to cost production downtime. That lack of thunk that you want on the door is design feature oddly enough. So if things hold true everybody should wait til next Oct to buy a new HD truck. As the first year of production of any vehicle can be fraught with problems. Assuming that chev introduces a new truck at the Texas state fair which starts this 30th.
I'm still trying to get over the fact that someone would plunk down that much money for something other than a house. I remember the days when 4k would get a brand new truck off the showroom floor..makes you wonder what the price of a new truck will be in 30 years.
how old are you?
Fordfanone it's called inflation brother.
why would you spend 75k on a truck in a couple years the price is going to go down
these new truck aint built to last and they are made of too much plastic
Save the keys! who doesn't love turning that key to start it up
They had push button starts in the 50's
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Have driven a '47 Cadillac Fleetwood and a '48 Chrysler. Both had push button start.
Jags in the 50s and 60s kept them around, too.
SkuzzyJ I didn't know that they had them in 47' thanks for the info man!
Joe's Junkyard
They're the oldest cars I've driven, personally. There's no telling when push-button started vs when a "bumpable" lock cylinder was first produced.
Push button start is a novelty that has appeared in cars sporadically over the decades, which traces it's roots to aviation. For most vehicles though it's kind of a gimmick, I'm not sure how the lack of it could be seen as a real fault.
Mista Butterworth I've heard people say that push to start is a gimmick and I laugh. Push to start is such a huge convenience. During the extremely cold and hot months I can leave my car running with the heater/AC on and be able to lock the car without having a second car key by just having the key FOB in my pocket. I could go on and on about how convenient push to start is but you always have these clowns who are stuck in 1930!
there are so many components to a keyless entry and start from rf transmitters and recivers to the button on the fob and in cab. if any one of those components fail you are stuck, and the repairs (aside from battery replacement) will be astronomical.
not to mention. you can copy a key for a few bucks, but replacement of a lost FOB is usually dealer only and will cost sever hundred dollars.
So, as convenient as the keyless system is. I love mine, it has some major pitfalls. Pitfalls that I feel don't make it worth the risk.
Shawn Hall you haven't been able to "copy a key for a few bucks" since like 2000 when they started putting "chips" in keys to stop ignition jimmying.
Why do you care about simple things like the way the door sounds when you shut it, or how fast the tailgate opens, or having parking sensors. I get that it's a 75000 dollar truck, but there will never be a perfect vehicle.
I think that the new SDs ('17 and beyond) are exactly what you are looking for. Push button start, lots of sensors and that tailgate (with hidden step assist). I am waiting to get my hands on one for a real shakedown to find the little things but since there are a lot of features that Ford is transferring over from the F150, I really think that they finally have hit the new SDs out of the park.
As for the wheels, still stuck with a 19.5" :(
I tend to agree. I'm going to wait another year to see if they make any early changes.
Honestly some of these features you mentioned, why would you ever want. Xeon headlights, yeah great so now when your headlight goes out, instead of a $25 bulb, you need a $250 bulb. Worse yet a $500+ controller. Led tail lights, yeah great now when a taillight bulb goes out, instead of a $5 bulb, you need a $200+ tail light assembly. Push button start, yeah great now instead of just a standard ignition key, you have smart fob, that if lost or damaged is $200+ and typically requires to truck to be at the dealer to program. Even worse if the controller goes on those they can $600+. Its obvious that ford built this truck for the sole purpose of cheap to maintain, incredible reliable, and incredibly strong to do work. I honestly think this truck is more suited for a commercial use, than a daily driver, and that is why it lacks some of this stuff.
i personally think the 2004-2008 models had the best headlights. they had insane reach around the truck.
I think push button start would be a hindrance to the truck. As a wrecker driver I can't stand push button start cars, and they often fail
Regular light bulbs are better. You can always switch them for LEDs and it's cheap to do. Trouble with integrated LED lights is when they go bad (and they will... after the warranty is over) replacements are $300 - $500 and after 10 years, nobody is making them. :( Whereas you will be able to replace those light bulbs for the next 30 years.
This guy has a 2016 Platinum F450, but has a camera that can only shoot 360P...
watched this and the "not every truck is a work Truck" video, I agree with you. as much as these things cost I expect better soft touch materials inside, slow opening tailgate, spray bedliner, power towing mirror and good quality tires. I was just talking about it yesterday, I feel like Ford didn't update their Super Duty bed/rear end in years, until 2017. Hell, I'm still mad someone backed up into me and dented me bumper.
you'll probably like the new 2018 silverado HDs. They have a newly redesigned duramax that's more aggressive putting out a lot more power than the current model...and it has an awesome functional hoodscoop
That is some very very small personal issues go buy a comparable truck from international or some other heavy truck producer ou will spend 50k more and not even close to as happy.
RAM & FORD 450s & 550s are standard & rams are only available with 19.5" rims
I'm with you on the quality concerns too. This money in England would buy a near top of the line Mercedes S-Class. It's very reasonable to expect top of the line build quality and equipment levels at this price point, and Ford are just not giving it to you. They do seem to have got it right for 2017 model year, at least on apperiances. The new interia especially is a huge step up on materials used. I'm picturing a black metalic F-Series with tan leather in my mind. Very appealing proposition. As long as the quality is right. I'd want that new box-section chassis (frame) fully wax-oiled though.
push button start was on some of the trucks from the 50s were you turn the key and then press the button I'm pretty shure
one thing I don't get is why other trucks don't offer adjustable headlights like the Toyota Tundra does. of course it isn't in the same league as the 3/4 amd 1 ton trucks, but if anything they should have them. with the tundra you can point the headlights down when loaded so they aren't pointing up blinding oncoming traffic amd impeding your vision at night. That is one feature that every truck should come with in my opinion.
Put sound deadener in the doors they will sound better when they close and road noises will be reduced
Shoulda bought a Cummins or an old 7.3
Some of these points are some things I don't like about my f250 either
Lol you're complaining about shit that does not matter. It's a truck.. not a lexus.
Here is a simple reason that super dutys do not come with LED tails, or projector headlights.
The majority of super dutys are purchased by large corps that dont wanna spend 400 dollars to replace a taillight when an led section goes out or fails, (that they can be fined by the DOT for) the regular bulbs are quick and cheap to replace, same with headlights. HID bulbs are still up around $100 a pc, (if you dont want ebay specials) so for cheap truck maintenance, thats out.
There is a reason SD's are so widely used in construction and by large corps, because they are cheap to maintain, crash parts are readily available, and they are the King of work trucks.
I agree with you on the consumer side these as options would be nice, and like you said not sure why they arent even offered.
VTWINKIE: You are kind of right the LED pricing, but wrong when it comes to fleet vehicle usage. Fleet versions of F-Series pickups do not have LED taillights or headlights for that matter. No do Fleet versions of most cars (Police Interceptor Cars do not have the same LED taillights as their Taurus sibling). The LED lighting package on all F-Series trucks (F150+) is an option on Lariat and included with King Ranch and Platinum trims 99% of the time. XL and XLT as well as base Lariat models do not get them.
I think you misread my post, i stated the reason they DO NOT come with LED's
Be thankful you do not have a push button start. Lots to go wrong that keyed vehicles do not and at a friendlier price when they do fail.
seriously ill be very happy to pay 75k for a truck like this is australia. we have to fork out 165k here in Australia for one of these. considering the exchange rate at almost parity.
If you have carpet in the bed of an f-450 you're doing something wrong.
Matthew Scott: Then thank god I don't have carpet in the bed of my truck.....look up Bedrug, mr Guy that lives under a Rock.
Almost everything you wish your truck had is on the '17. Even though the '17 doesn't have front parking sensors, you would never need them on a platinum or truck equipped with the 360 degree camera system. I had a '14 350 king ranch and it had all the same Caviods that your '16 has. I recently upgraded to a '17 platinum and love it. Much quieter, all the creature comforts and much more powerful. The worst feature on your gen is the air vents. They are so big then don't have much force even though they have great volume. I live in AZ and it was very bad for AZ.
You have to remember; the chassis and design is sort of old tech and that's worth the upgrade. You would be very pleased with the 17.
Gebhardt Insurance Group: Thanks for the great comment! I am holding out until mid next year for the Job2 model of the Super Duty. I've already started hunting for a F450...... Might end up getting one sooner if I see one at a local dealership :). Thanks for the great info though. Are you on FTE?
the thing about the super duty is it looks the same for what, 10 years now? i could be wrong. but this thing is a work horse and i think ford knows that. work trucks don't need 20 inch wheels. while I do agree for that price you should expect premium features. I like the truck. I'm not a ford guy but i respect ford for keeping the same design on the super duty for so long and keeping it a work truck
I will have to say...you sure had to look high and low to nit pick over some of the most trivial items to complain about. It's a TRUCK...not a Rolls Royce.
I agree. that's why I bought the truck. Wish list doesn't mean a must have list.... obviously.