Why We Left the Mormon Church: A Coming Out Story
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- This is the most vulnerable thing we've ever posted. We know that some people will have strong feelings about us leaving the church--but if you will open your heart to our family's unique journey, we believe we can build bridges of understanding. At the end of the day, we're all just here to walk each other home. Sending love to you all!
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My very soul resonated with this, I cried watching and listening to this testimony. You see, my husband and I and our 4 children have a very similar testimony and are on the same journey, just from a different religion. We left the amish in 2019, lost all our extended family and friends and started over , with Jesus Christ as our center, and only Him, not a bishop, nor the many rules. Thank you so much for sharing and I pray blessings upon your family.
This sounds so incredibly difficult and I wanted to let you know how brave you are. ❤
A good friend of mine left the Amish. She told me that it was tough, but she now has a happy and fulfilled life! I wish you the best on your journey ❤
Ours is a similar story of leaving a cult, just a different one but making Jesus Christ the centre and Him only in our lives. We are in South Africa but same story.
We are so blessed to be Latter-day Saints. Covenants are there for us to guide us in our eternal journey to return to Christ. All roads don't lead to Christ. Very thankful living prophets are here to guide us through perilous times.
@@blizzard2oo I respectfully want to ask how you resolve the problem of the obvious sin within the life of Joseph Smith...the founder of your faith...and how its contradicts with the teachings of Jesus Christ and His word? How has this sinful man been given authority to change the gospel message? And challenge the authority of scripture?
I am a muslim woman! I cried and cried so much watching this! It doesn’t matter which religion, but there is “man’s hand” in most everything they say “it’s divine”! Nothing that breads hatred, division and gives privilege to only “chosen ones” could be divine! What’s divine is that we are all created equal - men, women, nations, queer or straight! Love to all 🙏🏼
If only more Christians could show the love you demonstrated here 🙏❤️
It took me a lot of years to understand all that I now understand, and I’m half afraid of what more there is to learn! But that which underlies divine creation is love. And whatever we do really does need to be done in love. 💕
Yes!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
this is beautiful!
perfectly said!
Cults don't feel like Cults, when everyone you know is in the Cult. It's all consuming
Your video is done articulately, with respect, humility and dignity. God bless your little family and your journey.
"A faith that can't be questioned is probably not a faith worth having" - that's so true.. thank you for sharing your story, It's both heartbreaking and heartening! I hope you two, AND your beautiful family, find joy and happiness and experience all the wonders and infinite diversity that this world has to offer.
Yet this isn’t true. Our faith teaches you to question and pray with an open heart and contrite spirit for an answer. Yes we do believe in accountability.It’s apparent this family is suffering emotionally and spiritually right now. It’s much easier to turn to the world than to live differently than the rest of the world.
The only way to have joy is through JESUS CHRIST.
READ GENESIS and John, in the Bible.
Except that it can be questioned! They are so wrong about that, and that's the fault of their leaders and parents for making them think there is no room to question. James 1:5 will be true for everyone, Always! "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God"
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@@wesbyEric only blind faith. Understanding faith is actually something that gets it stronger, because you learn the reason behind the beliefs and traditions. Take Saint Thomas Aquinas, one of the greatest philosophers and theologian of Catholic Church, yet he was one who made some of the most complicated questions regarding faith, the harder the question was to answer, the greater his faith became.
“What is sacred to some, comes at a cost of trauma to others who do not fit the privileged narrative.” This line hit me so hard. An explanation of how I’ve been feeling since coming out and leaving the church. Thank you for such a strong and beautiful message.
Thanks for your courage. God bless. God is about Love in Action. All religions are man made.. all false gods.. The LDS is a fraud.. very money-centric. The LDS Church is a major Vendor of Salvation.. one must pay tithes to LDS church in order to receive salvation and exaltation ordinances.. The True JChrist condemns all Vendors of Salvation .. see 3 Nephi 27:32 in the Book of Mormon
Yes it was trauma for me and my kids especially me and my teen daughter they don't see what trauma they cause I been out since last year they made my twin sister go no contact with family who left it hurts she my twin sister and I feel like I missing something
@katielouisecunninghamsmith4312 Under no circumstances would anyone require your sister to “go no contact.” If she did … that would be something with her and your family personally.
@yofred2023
You'll probably never see this cuz your comment is a year old, but NO, not all religions are man made!! Read the Bible!! Such a silly statement you wrote.
It's heartbreaking to me that you went to your parents and they were unable to help you. That must have been absolutely terrifying to both of you to speak that truth out loud, and to have to sort through all of the church documents on that. I'm so sorry. You both have had to go through so much.
I left Mormon church 18 years ago. It was not easy to leave all good sisters and brothers. But this was the right decision I had made in my life. I am glad my kids grew up in Christian church.
You didn't leave them. They left you. That's what cults do
❤❤❤❤ the grass is definitely greener on this side 😊 😍
This video is a gr8 reminder of the power of brainwashing. Glad this couple saw the light and have been liberated.
@@hearsay516 In Christianity, It’s not up to the church to decide how you live your life, they just preach the word. If you are around people condemning you and judging you at church, you’re in the wrong church. That is not what we are called to do as Christian’s. But just as with everything else, there are parts that are corrupted by greedy selfish people… sadly
"Going through a faith deconstruction is like standing at the edge of a cliff that you've been told all your life that you would die if you jumped from. " I also like your analogy of going through a year that was a dark night of the soul. A faith crisis is so traumatic. This was beautifully done. Thank you both so much for opening up and sharing your story; it is a very important one to share. And I am so glad you also are able to remember some of the good things that you took from your upbrining while being able to change.
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How do we know right side up is not upside down?
Live our Heaven now❤️ I loved that part about this beautiful video ❤️
Yes I agree first bit be doing for last year I like standing in kitchen with my gf and little girl who is 4 I randomly singing a children's song from the church I am for goodness sake growing up church you have songs in bloody head it hard for sure
"a faith that can't be questioned isn't worth having" prophetic indeed.
Jesus answers All your questions, if you are sincere in asking……..
Thank you. Truly. My now son is experiencing this struggle. Im open with live support and most of all kindness. So many are quick to judge. I tell them Just BE YOU. You are the most amazing person. I prayed to have you. What a special joy that is. To have a mighty spirit. Thank you both for your truth. ❤❤
As a 17yr old female, i was taught that men could be sealed to multiple women. That was all i needed to hear to leave the church.
Thank you for sharing your story to the world.
You were taught incorrectly and did not do your research IF this is true.... which is doubtful.
I agree with Steve. Rowena, you were taught incorrectly or maybe you misunderstood
It's actually the opposite, in the LDS church a man can have multiple women sealed to him (eternal polygamy) but a woman can only be sealed to one man. So if the wife passes away, the man can marry another woman and they will both be his wives in the afterlife according to LDS theology. If the man passes away and the woman wants to remarry, she has to get the sealing to her first husband annulled by the leaders of the church then she can remarry.
Haha sorry guys. How embarrassing. I meant men can be sealed to multiple women. Have corrected. Not sure why so many people have liked my poorly-worded comment!
@@dalebrimhall1071nasty
❤ I left Mormon church at 47 and am now 55. I finally feel peace. I don’t feel like I am constantly falling short. I now believe as a woman I have the right and am even smart enough to make my own life decisions. So grateful that I left and have been able to experience this!! I now love myself and am ok with not having all the answers and am ok with not being perfect. If you’re doubting, do it!! Find your truth it’s the best!!
Jesus is always calling to His sheep. And His sheep know His voice.
There are many sheep caught up in religion, in Mormonism etc.
You are the sheep of the Lord as you listened to His call and came out of that religion.
Those that don't know the Lord's voice will remain in religion. They love their religion more than the truth, and that truth is Jesus.
God bless you!!
Praise Jesus, forever and ever.
Thanks for your courage. God bless. God is about Love in Action. All religions are man made.. all false gods.. The LDS is a fraud.. very money-centric. The LDS Church is a major Vendor of Salvation.. one must pay tithes to LDS church in order to receive salvation and exaltation ordinances.. The True JChrist condemns all Vendors of Salvation .. see 3 Nephi 27:32 in the Book of Mormon
I left at 32 I almost 34 I had my son and adopted a child in the time I left single handedly I glad I did
@@yofred2023 exactly I see that now as divorced from the men who kept me there with abuse .
Thank you for the truth.
“At the end of the day, we are just here to walk each other home.” 💕💕
Hummm.... well if truth doesn't really exist is that really what we are suppose to be doing? How are we suppose to know that we are suppose to be walking each other home or taking advantage of each other or worse?
I would like to answer your question. I have wondered the same thing, I mean without a Church community or some religious belief, how can you know how to behave? Did you know elephants feel grief at the loss of other elephants their close too? A Mother mourns the loss of her baby and doesn't want to leave it. The elephants are close knit. They weren't taught these things, and it goes beyond just instinct. Why should we lack any less empathy or want to exercise good behavior even if we didn't sit in church for most of our lives? So yes in the end, we can walk home together, if we choose to.
John 4:33
But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
Let us know Him as He is not as everyone labels Him to be. There is A Way, there is A Truth and there is A Life.
Spread the Light and be ye sinless, depart from it. Sin is a fight, but Life has its challenges.
May God have mercy and may we be steadfast. In Jesus Christ's name Amen!
@@livingmombirth4005 exactly
Amen
This was refreshing to watch. When you said "On our journey my heart has almost just broken open with love that I didn't know existed" .... you had me in tears. Imagine if religions would bring people to that same conclusion every time. Our world would look nothing like it does today. Thank you so much for having the courage to share your story and your journey. You are a beautiful family.
What I also saw there was a sense of the very joy that foolish, foolish man said no one outside the LDS church could have or know.
I think at base level most religions do end up the same place. And I think that says a lot about human beings
appreciate you guys sharing your story. i think its extremely important that there are resources like this- where people can go and see and really feel that the forces that cause people to leave are not sinister, not entrenched in that darkness and vitriol that the church frames them as. that people who leave find far more capacity for love and peace and joy than they ever had before, that people who leave are normal, are exactly like friendly good people you would expect to meet at church. not hateful, not miserable.
i left mentally when i was a sophomore in high school. its one of the hardest things i've gone through and yet i so cherish having been able to do it, am so deeply grateful for it. the sad irony is that life outside the church is where is found the highest joys one can experience, and the high standards for love and compassion, that the church asserts itself as the source for. i have the capacity to be such a better and fuller person than i ever did in the church, i'll be a better father, neighbor, husband, citizen. i don't have to reign in my moral impulses to conform them to someone else's boundaries, i can be the best version of myself that i could ever be
Not sure how YT's algorithms led me to this video, but I'm glad they did. I'm a non-religious person who moves between atheism and agnosticism. You're both incredibly courageous. Your children will have parents who love and support them, while encouraging intellectual curiosity and religious exploration. I sincerely hope that the kindness and generosity you give to the world will return to you tenfold.
I originally came to look for a crochet legwarmers tutorial and ended up here!
“The nearly 17-million member, Utah-based faith said in a statement that church doctrine would continue to consider same-sex relationships to be against God’s commandments. Yet it said it would support rights for same-sex couples as long as they didn’t infringe upon religious groups’ right to believe as they choose.” - Associated Press
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You sound like a true atheist
I've been watching and listening to street preachers since 2017 (Gabe the street preacher, Cleveland street preachers, David Lynn, Dorre Love)... they all were preaching on 'pride parades'... it was sad to see the hate and rejection of the word of God... Jesus Christ is the truth, the way and the LIFE !!! Man and man cannot produce life, woman and woman cannot produce life... btw -> there are many former homosexuals, transgenders who say that they were abused as children, but Jesus healed them! pray to God, that he may help you find the identity that he has prepared for you!
I have no ties to the religion and I’ve never watched your family but I’ll just say this video is so well done. I am surprised this doesn’t have more views. It’s very captivating, from the home videos to you speaking directly into the camera.
Yes, same here. I've no idea how this video was on my YT home page...but I watched it and it was very well made. Props to them for the great production. 👏🏼
Mormons is another cult.
I totally agree and am completely here as well!!! I have so many more questions. Through the dysphoria has he made any decisions? I guess that sounds dumb but I need more education.
It's not about a religion it's about a relationship with God . Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life , the only way to the father. God came to Earth in the form of a man his name was called Jesus. He lived was crucified died and was buried and rose again. He restored us back to Father God. We had been separated because of the sin that Adam and Eve committed. The spirit of God called the holy Spirit will guide us and lead us into all truth once we have given our lives to Jesus Christ. We believe in our heart that he's the Savior and that God raised him from the dead. We died with Christ all our sins were forgiven and now we are risen with Christ and one with him and with the father. God is a three-part being call the Trinity Father son and holy Spirit. When we believe and receive Christ as our savior we become one with the trinity. They make their abode in US. As we yield to them they work in and through us. We are the temple of God. Not a temple made with hands. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son Jesus Christ that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 the King James Bible. I pray that this beautiful couple will find the true Jesus and start the real journey of eternity.
@@larealmitchell4366 😊😊😊😊😊
My husband and I are both going through our own faith deconstructing, and it has been heart wrenching and extremely painful. Finding this video was incredibly validating and I cried with you guys. Thank you for your courage in sharing your story so authentically and genuinely ❤️❤️❤️
It's so interesting to hear other people describe what I went through 40 years ago. Back then I felt very alone and lost in the world (I left my country and travelled alone for years so i really was). But i didn't have the perspective to understand what was happening to me. It has taken decades to heal from the trauma of growing up with a questioning mind and free spirit in a strict fundamental family and church. Thanks for sharing your story. I think I need to share mine.
please, share yours! wish you blessings and healing. I was a mormon too.
This… should win an award. I have no words.
Meghan I couldn't agree more. I tried to write a comment but I was speechless. So, so good.
I changed the likes from 666 to 667, ha. 🤪 (I'm an estranged Christian-adjacent adult, but for some reason that previous number is still a bit scary. 😅)
@@miak4006 It should be scary 😳. The devil 👺hates us. The good news is God is not a God of fear but of love ❤, forgiveness 😪, mercy 😇, hope ✝️ and wisdom beyond our understanding . And so much more. 💖.
So we’ll done I agree .Beautiful family .
@@francisgalton2678 This was sad, but eye opening. I agree I, deserves an award
You two have a very bright future in making documentaries /films. This was extremely well done, VERY professional and interesting to watch.
I wholeheartedly agree. It was just unfortunate and sad to see that they missed the point of their entire upbringing and so easily fooled.
How did they miss the point of their entire upbringing?
@@livingmombirth4005 They escaped to the truth of God, and left the worship of the false profit and child abuser, Smith.
@@christinedunn5709 exactly
@@zebeart8808 you are absolutely correct, they left a big ring pedophile church ⛪️
Thank you for being so vulnerable. Thank you for being so honest. I think what I took away from this very moving story is how much you both attempted to hold on to your faith and have the LDS church stand behind you. Hold you, and to guide you. My heart is broken that you were not able to get this when you needed it most. You have made a wonderful life for you and your family since leaving and have gained such a more sincere love for each other. Thank you again for posting.
This was so beautiful, I'm so glad I watched it as i accidentally had it come on in my pocket. Thank you both for sharing your story, it was so moving. I am so glad that you and your children have reached this together, it's so sweet!
On another note, the editing made me laugh a couple of times because its pretty funny, thanks to whoever was behind that.
I’m actually a direct descendant of Fanny Alger. And I love the history behind my family. But leaving the church has been one of the hardest processes. I’m only at the beginning and scared. This video gave me courage. Thank you.
YOU GOT THIS!! it took unimaginable courage to take that first step. If you just keep that same energy towards your new life, then there is nothing you can't do, or achieve. You are going to do great things in life, so please don't feel scared or anxious. You decided to jump into the drivers seat and take the wheel in your life, and in what direction you choose to go is all yours 🙏✌️💕
you are strengthened in Jesus name
Satan wants you to be scared, don't satisfy him.
@@skybee001 God will direct your path. He is faithful.
Start listening to people who have experienced NDE'S .. they can tell you the truth. And it has everything to do with your own divine self and your birthright of making your own choices. And it has nothing to do with institutions and (white) men placing themselves in between tge you of this incarnation and your divine all knowing grand soulself
“What a miracle it is to exist at all”
This is something I’ve thought very often since leaving the Mormon church. I am so much more grateful for my life than I ever was as a member. It’s interesting that since ‘loosing’ my eternal perspective, I’ve gained such a rich, full, & present perspective on life. This video brought me to tears. Thank you!
Same here❤
"And maybe the point of all of this is to experience heaven right now" - Eternity is now. Enjoy!
This song captures that sentiment better than any other I've heard.
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I couldn’t have said this better myself!!!!!!! ❤️❤️
@Riley Allen Exactly! In fact my very devoutly LDS Step Dad would say "Some People are so "Heavenly Bound They were no Earthly Good!" 😁. I never forgot that. Life here is so full of wonder, so full of wonderful experiences. Even all my loved ones who have already passed on, have left me their love and I feel it everyday. 😊
Thank you, sweet little family. Your truth brought me to tears and gave me a feeling of kinship I haven't often felt in this life. I am not (nor have I ever been) a member of the LDS Church and so I can't claim to know your trials, but you've given me much to think on and be thankful for.
Thank you for sharing your difficult journey to truth and the conversion of your hearts and intellect from Mormonism. I’m an ex Mormon too and understand how the de-tanglement is so complex. Thankfully, I found my way and my husband followed. We are closer to God now more than ever and I’m hoping and praying that my adult children follow. The pain of that is another subject. Circular reasoning kept me from accepting the glaring truth until I could no longer make sense or ignore the lie and I had to leave. May God always protect you both and your children as well. The two of you show love and courage that shines through so beautifully and powerfully. ❤🙏🏼
I want to applaud the courage it took for you to create & post this video. Pretty sure my husband & I taught you in primary many years ago. To me it feels like another lifetime. We too have left the church, not long after the time we taught you. This video brought tears to my eyes. I’m so happy you guys have followed your hearts & found a path of truth for yourself.
Mormons is one of the SYNAGOGUES OF SATAN. Hope that many will come out fr them.
Nicely said - bless you for sharing & speaking the truth to this young man. Im so glad you know the truth. Blessings & love to you!
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When you have problems with your own testimony, that's one thing! But when you're trying to take others with you, that's just Evil!
@@stardustgirl2904 I invite you to seek out a real Christian church based on the bible.
@@Number4lead I'm not sure what you're missing, we have prophet's and apostles, we have Temple's we have baptism by immersion, we pray in Jesus Christ name to our Heavenly Father! We have the Book of Mormon another testament of Jesus Christ, we have priesthood authority, we have the laying on of hands for blessings, and being set apart! The prophet holds the keys we have patrichal blessings, we have personal revelation, we have the power to bind families together for all eternity! We teach about the three degree's of glory written in the Bible! We believe in the God head! We just had the most spiritual conference with the prophet and apostles, God's words we're spoken along with his truth! You have free agency to believe in whatever you want to, it's your life and your choice! But for me the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints is the true church upon the Earth ❗🙏🏻 I have been all over the world 🌎 and never felt the spirit of God in any of them. Instead of feeling the spirit,I only felt everything that was missing in those churches! As a Temple worker I have performed the sacred ordenances and witnessed the miracles of the Temple and I have felt the spirit of God in the Temple. May the Lord 🙏🏻 bless you in the path you take!
Turns out, your parents were right about you becoming a prophet, Shaye. You making this video, that was certainly hard to make, will bring comfort to many and make them feel they are not alone. Who knows how many people will not commit suicide because of you.
You can be proud of yourself. And of your supportive spouse.
True that , I also thought as much ... they are both prophets of the highest order 👆😁
Your confusing people and trying to lead them away. Sounds like your dad had some mental health issues. Should have gotten help for the mental health issues.
@@bjtaylor4360 Are you ok?
I was thinking the same thing. A prophet is a teacher and a truth teller. It may be a word with too loaded a religious meaning. But I think people with prophetic wisdom upset the status quo and bring other people into a deeper level of spiritual enlightenment.
Yes, and being a circuit breaker for your family history so you aren't passing on this psychological damage
Beautiful video. Thank you so much for having the strength and courage to share your story. ❤
What a beautiful family and story! Thank you for sharing your struggle and triumph.
I’m from St. George too! Watching this was like feeling a big warm hug of understanding. I left the church for all the same reasons also. At first my family was nicer to me than ever (which, honestly it was a relief to be treated nicely after growing up experiencing parentification, neglect, and abuse. As one of 8 kids, I’m the oldest girl in my family and have severe ADHD that I was punished and ostracized for, but was also expected to help take care of younger siblings and always be home to help my mom with the never ending housework), but after my family realized the niceness wasn’t achieving the goal to re-convert me it has gone back the other way. It’s pretty disheartening when all my siblings get together to laugh about how we were raised and I’m over here in therapy still healing from it.
Anyway sorry to ramble. Thanks for making this. It’s exhausting and re-traumatizing trying to explain myself to members who genuinely want to know “why”. This helps tremendously.
I get it, I've got similar trauma from my upbringing as well. I've learned to couch it in general statements rather than give any details, especially to friends and strangers. If you give details, people somehow feel like they have the skill and the right to judge you on whether or not you deserve to feel traumatized by what happened. They do not. Just tell them you are recovering from trauma (don't even tell them what kind!) and then tell them how much you appreciate the fact that they haven't pressed for details. If they don't take the hint, time for smarter friends.
I was never a Mormon; but I am a Christian. I'll pray for God to heal you completely., and that He will open the eyes of your family members to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. May God bless!
I totally understand the Parentification and ADHD aspect as a youth. We weren’t raised in any sort of church unless they were handing out food baskets! I am the 4th of 6 children and the only child who has graduated on time, with honors, went through college for teaching and always made the Deans List for excellence in grades. I held a teaching career until retirement. I’ve never been caught up in drinking, drugs, bar hopping, sexual fortification, etc.
I got married young, 19, had our first daughter at age 21, second daughter at age 23.5. I was done with having children. I never wanted my own children to be put into the place I was placed as a child growing up.
Thanks for your courage. God bless. God is about Love in Action. All religions are man made.. all false gods.. The LDS is a fraud.. very money-centric. The LDS Church is a major Vendor of Salvation.. one must pay tithes to LDS church in order to receive salvation and exaltation ordinances.. The True JChrist condemns all Vendors of Salvation .. see 3 Nephi 27:32 in the Book of Mormon
I am so very sorry for all you have had to endure. Praying for you. Always remember that Jesus is there for you and loves you beyond all measure. Sending love, hugs and prayers.
I’m ExJW and my family and I escaped in 2017 after being born and raised in it. Mormonism is quite similar to what, and how we were taught. I’m so glad you’re out! And I’m so GLAD you are sharing your story!
Same here, and the creepy old "Quorum of 12 Apostles" dudes remind me of the JW "Elders"... Projecting their own shame and guilt on the congregation as a means of control and manipulation.
From my understanding two men set out to create their own religion. After being un-able to agree, one created JW and one Mormonism in the late 1800's. I'm ex JW myself. I love how they talk as if they were at the table with Jesus himself.
“Escaped” lol.
@@cindyyanetta5510 I was raised as a JW and like the Mormon religion they looked down on black people and thought less of them. JW's are not like that today but the founder of the religion had the belief and had followers believe the same for a long time.
@@tndyamond2 yes they do and I seen they say they cursed as someone who is 89 baby born into with twin sister my family left accept her and husband and my ex when. Born into this you know different the first thing drank was coffee I took my name and my kids name of record's now so we no longer members
This is a beautiful video that tells a beautiful story, thank you for sharing. I know it will help many others who may make the similarly difficult, but rewarding, journey that your family has made!
Thank you so much for sharing your story and all the work you put into this video, especially your research!!
I’m still reeling from my reaction to my emotions after watching the video a few days ago. I was born and raised in Utah and punched all the tickets with my husband before leaving the state in ‘ 84. I had never seen the videos you included as I became inactive for nearly 30 years and recently came back to worship for a time and recently “ quiet quit “ for lack of a better term. I’m on my own journey to really dig deep and find answers I can live with. I find that the closer I get to Utah culture the more uncomfortable I feel. This video was amazing beyond words and I wish you nothing but the best on your journey forward ❤️
I love how you've included the church movies and music in your video. It really had a huge impact on my life. I think coming to terms with the emotions and truth can be hard.
@enchantinglysimple Only they cherry picked random, unrelated clips with no context to steer the narrative. You can splice almost anything to make it sound favorable to your point of view.
Absolutely brilliant and powerful! Thank you for being so real and honest!
Oof, this felt like I was reliving the scary, beautiful, painful, rewarding experience of leaving the church all over again. Thank you for using your platform to make this.
I agree. So many good and sad memories. I felt alone after I decided to leave. I went into the military and lived the gospel while I served
As an Ex- Mormon this is one of the most powerful and moving videos I have ever seen. Thank you for using your platform in such a raw and comforting way. Wow. I am blown away.
But, I didn't hear about what they believe now.
I pray that they will find the truth. JESUS CHRIST, ALONE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER GOD ONLY ONE.
Read the Bible.
Genesis, John e more.
The Bible is the only book
Ephesians 2:8-10., John 14 and more.
God bless u!
What scripture says there is only one God only one ? You mean when Paul is teaching pagans not to worship idols . He is the only God not their pagan idols . Let’s read the whole complete story and why that was said .
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I un-liked this post several times only to be able to hit the thumbs up button again. Great quality video and insane testimony!
They don't need to "believe" in any god or religion.
“What a miracle it is to exist at all. And maybe the point of all of this is just to experience heaven right now.” 🥺😭❤️ Just absolutely so brave and vulnerable of you to share. Thank you.
That one hit me in the most glorious of ways. So often we work hard for the future and don't fully appreciate the now. So eloquently said. Thank you for repeating.
This is such a sad sad story…to leave a life long religion, and to still be deceived by the enemy of your soul😢
Seek a relationship with Christ Jesus, and be born again✝️ John 3:3
Thanks for sharing your journey of awakening. Loving all people and celebrating the good within them is the pinnacle of humanity. Your children are so fortunate to have parents that will love them, without exception or expectation..
Thank you for this loving and tender exposing of your experience. I’m so happy for the two of you and your beautiful family.
I have no connection to the Mormon religion and only minimal knowledge about it. I am heterosexual but have family and friends who are not. I've seen their struggles. I'm not sure how I stumbled onto this video but am so glad I did. What a beautiful, honest, loving family you are. I am of the age where I am evaluating the life I have led and that which I have left. Your statement about experiencing Heaven here on this earth touched me so deeply it brought tears (of joy) to my heart. You two are inspiring to all.
I think many people mix up sexuality with gender. A gay man or woman is not the same as a person dealing with transgender dysmorphia. A gay man is comfortable in his male body. However, he is sexually attracted to men. A person with transgender issues, literally does not agree with the image in the mirror. Imagine looking in the mirror and seeing yourself with a face and body of the opposite gender. It must be terrifying!
Also, a man can be trans and still be sexually attracted to women. Caitlin Jenner is an example. She is still attracted to women.
I am so proud of you. For years I wondered how LGBTQ community in the Mormon religion survived. It's so sad watching the things that church does and it's called indoctrination. The conservative communities scream that it's happening in the schools but it's actually the religious cults that indoctrinate their children through the church and their homeschooling. I don't blame just Morman religion I blame all Catholic, evangelical, Scientology they are all cults. They use their religion to hide behind their bigotry.
So proud of you and I know you will have a long happy life the way you feel the most comfortable I will never judge you.
@@bflogal18 thank you for bringing this up. I think the confusion many people have is because trans people are part of the queer rights LGBTQ+ movement, I think a lots of people don’t realise that the T is for trans. I had this with my x husband and our youngest child, when they came out as trans a year ago they asked me to tell there Dad and he just couldn’t seem to grasp that being trans is not being gay! I am thankful that I as their Mum have a good amount of knowledge (have still learned a ton in the last 16 months!) due to me fact I am a lesbian (who struggled with this for way too long due to growing up and educated Catholic through the 80s and early 80s. ‘It’s complicated’ is the best fit why I didn’t accept and come out until my very late 30s) and I am blessed to have a few trans friends, one of whom is a close friend (she is a lesbian trans woman the same age as my Mum who has been an amazing support for me learning how to support my youngest and helped me to get the right help for them and give the best support. However for the longest time I had no idea where their sexuality sat on the spectrum because as I have to tell people way to often, gender identity is not sexuality! It is also none of my dam business until they chose to share that with me.
@@bflogal18 thats so sick,
@Carol Bassant Regardless of a person's sexuality or gender the person is still a child of God. Instead of making judgmental and hurtful remarks try following God's Commandments. Love thy neighbor as thy self. Not judge. Listen to the individuals experience with an open mind. I spent the late 80s through 2000 working in the HIV field. I started working with at risk youth in 2000 who identified as LGBTQ and still do work in the community today. If I have learned anything over the last 30 + years it is the beauty of God's Grace. I have witnessed the evils of hate and I have seen the personal relationships with God comfort those dying from HIV/AIDS. It is through God's Grace that we can find tolerance, understanding, acceptance and love for all God's children.
the conclusions you have come to, as tortuous as the process must have been, are truly beautiful. good luck to your family and much love.
Beautifully said, and exactly what I needed to hear. Bless you for your courage.🥰❤️
The Mormon LDS has been what I feel in my heart “cult affiliated” for many decades, my sweet mama (who now is in Heaven) she escaped the Mormon church, their beliefs at the young age of 16yrs old in 1950 … so much of this entire experiences that is being shared here, my mama shared her story, her life of 16yrs in the Mormon upraising, she left Utah/Idaho came too Missouri met/married my father .. gave birth too myself, my 3 brothers, my parents were married 60yrs .. my father was a Baptist minister 57yrs .. I have a story too share of mama’s
Her entire family denied her the rest of her life, she was removed from a large estate will, disinheritance
Sorry about the long comment .. this young couple story surfaces the pain for my sweet mama, I never knew any of my mothers people 😭😭😭
Is your mothers bad life experience associated with a family who struggled with true love for their daughter or with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? The church is not Cult Affiliated or Cult like in any way. In your opinion what is the difference between a religion and a cult?
@teresawilson2803 There is no overarching scenario that would require “escaping” from the LDS church. If one does not want to be a member, they simply have to move in in the life they choose. If “escape” was a genuine necessity, it would have been a very isolated situation and not associated with accurate church doctrine.
@@chienpo672 you show no insight whatsoever regarding the psychological trauma a human being must go through to leave a life built on a particular set of traditions, values and beliefs, or for the courage it takes to build a new one. Your comments are dripping with self righteousness and ignorance.
@@mzee4076 Occult is secrecy. What goes on the temple stays in the temple sounds pretty secret to me. Tell us why you wear the Mormon underwear?
as an outward commitment to God and the covenants we make with him in the temple. This is why we wear a garment. @@tiedyehobo
This video was so courageous, that you would share you incredible journey is a true blessing for all of who love your family. I was raised in the Catholic Church and heard many of the same falsehoods
After being sexually abused for many years by the “holy “men of God I left the church. After many years I consider myself a Christian and I focus my life on trying my best to follow only Jesus.
I pray for God’s blessings and peace for both of you and your beautiful children 🙏🙏❤❤❤☮️🕊
It's wonderful you found Christ 🙏💙 even though you suffered terrible abuse from those who 'cower' behind religion to carry out their evilness.
Glory to God, sister! I'm sorry for all the abuse you endured. Let us fight the good fight. Victory is already ours in Christ Jesus.
So happy for you. I left the Mormon church years ago.and found the lord Jesus as my savior . I married a non Mormon person and went through some confused and difficult times so I prayed for god’s direction in my life and which way I’m to go. And the scripture in 1 Corinthians it says do be unevenly yoked and to follow my husband who was a Christian. I lost my first baby and the Mormon women told me it was because I married a non Mormon. And we’re so negative towards outsiders of the Mormons. But my husband church family prayed for me and with me and just loved me and showed me Jesus. All we can do is tell our stories to others and pray for them to know Jesus in their hearts and except him.
Oh wow Stephanie, that's an amazing testimony. I'm a Christian too and I'm so happy to see that someone who used to be Mormon, turned to the true Jesus. God bless you!
@@NoyzRose492you’re a Christian and your support the LGBT?
Of course not @@blak238
I just came across your channel through watching five to love Im very grateful that I have.
Thank you for sharing your amazing journey. I look forward to watching more and hearing more about your life’s new journeys and blessings to come! Best wishes to your family!
Carey
Sending so much love to your family. Thank you for sharing your story. I resonated with it a lot. 💗
I am in awe of the courage it took you to both leave the church and share this video. Thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your story. Inspirational!
Trust me, it takes more balls to be attacked than to move over to the attacker.
They are weak furryw
I was in the mormon church for 41 years, and I've been out for 1. This is a beautiful story of evolution and love while moving away from a church that claims to be all about family, but ignores the individuals in each family. Bravo, thank you!
You won’t find a perfect church anywhere on this earth because man is imperfect. Well wishes on your journey.
@@babymoon5282 You won’t find a perfect cult….
@@tedgarrison8842 you can leave the Mormon church safely and at will . Can’t say the same about a cult though.
@@babymoon5282 it is a cult. Not only was I a card carrying cult member for five decades, served a mission, temple marriage 27 years, I worked protecting their leaders and property. When I went to my bishop saying that I lost my faith, I was told that I better quit my job or they would fire me. When I told my wife, she said I needed to leave our home..
Safe?
F your cult!
Baby moon is very triggered by this video and that people resonate with it, so please disregard their invalidating comments.
My spouse and I left in 2020/2021 and you're so right. My spouse felt they had to endure their burdens in silence, and their family was shocked when they found out. Ot wasn't a shock of emotion and coming to their aid, it was shock they would have the audacity to voice their pain.
"If you chance to meet a frown change it to a smile" all happy compliance and no time for real compassion. The church is lonely for those who suffer from the othering.
I'm so sorry for the pain you've undoubtedly experienced and still experience.
Wow. You explained the story of so many of us so well! 👏 👏 👏
Wow! What tremendous courage it took for you to make this video. So well done and sincere. Your gentleness and authenticity shine through. I too was a member of the church from birth in 1954 until 1992 when my husband and I and our three children left the church. We did this after years of research within church documents and realized the church is NOT true and we had to leave. Our lives have been SO much better since we left. My thoughts and prayers are with you as you take this journey together. Thank you for sharing.
So very proud of Shay for living his honest truth! You have a beautiful family and I’m praying for all of you!
This is such a beautiful video, and I applaud you for looking into things on your own instead of remaining passive. Your family will thrive; I have no doubt of that!
You two traveled through darkness that some people will never experience. I'm so happy that you have come out on the other side and expanded in your love for yourselves. Growing in your love for all people is a beautiful side effect. I wish you and your children all the best.
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve gone through so much of that same process
Your story is a gift and I thank you for it. I am hopeful that your story finds everyone who has ever needed it and gives them strength
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As an ex-Mormon queer woman, thank you for making this. Leaving the church can be such an isolating experience. The Truman Show mention startled me, because watching that movie for the first time was unexpectedly emotional as someone who grew up being taught to be in the world but not of the world. Though the process can be long and difficult, leaving has taught me how to love, trust, and support people in ways I didn't realize I could not before. I'm proud of you and your family for speaking out about your experiences and choices.
@@Lbhacksaw Did you watch the video? She mentioned it as a point of understanding and relation to Shaye and that they had to deal with the way the church speaks about gender. They would have the same in relation to queerness. You may not like it but it is relevant to the topics brought up so no need to react like that. Are you also commenting like this on the posts of people mentioning that they don't understand as they are straight and cis but are happy for them or is it just queer people that get this response?
@@Lbhacksaw because it's important to the video? Also people can talk about what they want. Sexuality is an important thing. It isn't hurting anyone. People like you make it hard to be open. This comment wasn't necessary at all.
@@Lbhacksaw - I understand you, BUT let me try to explain something.. I have a transgender granddaughter & niece! They didn’t talk about their gender but it was very OBVIOUS! If we don’t talk about these things, their struggle will continue, nothing will change. Everyone has a right to be who they truly are, to love who they love without judgement. Hopefully, someday, no one will have to talk about it, but that will be because of all the brave ones that have paved the way! 🤞🏼
@@Lbhacksaw I never made any assumptions about your sexuality in my comment so that is a non sequitur. Not sure why you decided to bring that up. Do you like saying how you are *not* talking about it? What do you mean with manners? If you mean me, just because I don't go out of my way to be obsequious in how I speak doesn't mean I am rude. I have flat affect in how I speak and write. It is what it is. Read my comments with a straight face and a shrug and you will have a basis for where my reaction lies.
Also people do make allusions to their sexuality or assumptions about the sexuality of others all the time. Just because it isn't blatantly said don't mean subconsciously it is not there. Simply stating a orientation doesn't need to be a 'private matter' or do you immediately start thinking inappropriate things when someone makes a statement of fact like that? I agree it would be nice to live in a world where people don't have to bring up things like that but we don't, because there is a lot of marginalisation and baggage that can be associated with that, which many people do need to talk about to unpack. I am very happy that is not the case for you and the people you know.
And I had no particular reaction. I wondered why you said what you said is all. I don't care if you stand by your words as I don't begrudge you them. But you decided to complain that someone brought up something relevant and related to the topic of the video so I asked why. You are entitled to make your comment so I am entitled to mine as well right? I just was curious as to why you decided to say what you said to someone stating they were queer and not on one of the comments stating they were straight (there are several) and wondering if you considered why you picked this one over the others. It comes over as sexualising everything a queer person does even though you say you apply it universally, whether that was the intent or not. Also people are allowed to talk about what they want to talk about it. Discourse is good. It's how we grow and learn and relate to each other. If it is not for you you don't have to be a part of that particular conversation but I hope you get to have fun and stimulation conversations you do enjoy.
@@Lbhacksaw thats your own opinion, about GOD, but you will find out soon, hope you are ready,
Thank you for sharing such a revealing & powerful story...it was moving. I'm only a recent subscriber, so I've still got a lot of your videos to watch. I'm really looking forward to the experience. Wishing your entire family nothing but the best 🙂.
Thank you for sharing your beautiful story. I can feel the overwhelming love that fills and pours out of your hearts.
Beautifully made video and a great message. As a person who has also left the Mormon church, i felt so much comfort watching this video knowing that others felt exactly how i do. Wishing you all so much happiness and peace.
Thanks for your courage. God bless. God is about Love in Action. All religions are man made.. all false gods.. The LDS is a fraud.. very money-centric. The LDS Church is a major Vendor of Salvation.. one must pay tithes to LDS church in order to receive salvation and exaltation ordinances.. The True JChrist condemns all Vendors of Salvation .. see 3 Nephi 27:32 in the Book of Mormon
As someone who went through a faith transition around the same time, I can’t tell you how grateful I am to you for sharing your story. It’s so scary to loose so much of your community, and this makes me feel a little less alone.
Ironically, I started having severe panic attacks a year ago. Nights became the worst for me. The only thing that soothes me and helps me get through to the morning are the TH-cam videos like the music Shay is playing in the very beginning of this video. Those who make those videos are such a blessing to people like me.
PAUL WILBUR,'S. ALBUM, " JERUSALEM ARISE" IS BEAUTIFUL ANOITED, WORSHIP MUSIC, THAT WILL GIVE YOU PEACE IN YOUR HEART!!! I CAN ATTEST TO IT!!! ❤
Amazing you guys. Thank you so much for telling your story and being such open, kind and loving people❤️ good on you shay for finding the courage and coming to accept and embrace yourself!
“Maybe the point of all of this is just to experience heaven right now” THAT♥️
@@stephtimms1776 That’s again.. not true.
Nope.
Amén! That’s what we Christians believe ❤️ we are here for a reason and God’s will and joy is to see us enjoy the life He has given us; that we are happy and wise, and that we do on earth as it is in heaven! Why wait until we get to heaven to love one another and live a peaceful life? His word says: Matthew 6:10 “your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” ❤
Thanks for your courage. God bless. God is about Love in Action. All religions are man made.. all false gods.. The LDS is a fraud.. very money-centric. The LDS Church is a major Vendor of Salvation.. one must pay tithes to LDS church in order to receive salvation and exaltation ordinances.. The True JChrist condemns all Vendors of Salvation .. see 3 Nephi 27:32 in the Book of Mormon
Oh my Goodness this world is not Heaven!!!! But yes everyday is a gift and a chance to be a light to shine for others and to try to make this world a better place.
I’m blown away by how similar our experiences of Mormonism has been. I’m Gay, and being gay and Mormon has basically been the challenge of my entire life. It’s been a long-fighting 30 years of struggle, but I have finally made the decision to leave the church. But I leave it, thankful for all the beautiful and positive moral standards that I’ve built my entire life around. I’m still a God-loving son of God and I will do my best to spread good around the world. My belief in God is stronger by making this decision, and I hope that when I pass on, that God will be happy with how I chose to live my life. Separating God from Mormonism felt strange at first, but has brought a lot of peace to me in the after-math. Thank you both for sharing your beautiful story, and it’s great to know that I’m not the only one going through this transition. ❤
Beautiful!! Institutions are MANmade. And we are all one, and one with the divine. We came to this incarnation to experience. Experience what? That which you chose with your own council before coming into this incarnation. All for your own Soul's Purpose
This was truly a great testimony to how we should always question and look for the answers that help us stay close to the Lord. I am a Christian, and was taught that the Morman faith was a cult. I am not sure about that, but no one is perfect, nor lives a perfect life, therefore, there is no perfect religion. And if there are no answers, you should question your faith, as you did.
I am a 70s girl, and love the Osmonds, and Donny is still my teen idol even now! But I pray for the entire Osmond family to seek the truth from the Holy Bible, not some secondary Bible book. There is only one faith and one Bible. That is all that is needed to seek our salvation with the Lord.
@@sherrie2tube no perfect religion you say? With that said, do you believe that there can be good in other religions other than the one you currently belong to?
I hope many more families will be liberated and set free from cultish religions. Bless you guys!
I second that
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true church Jesus Christ on earth today.
@@sherylparsons2104 Sure Jan :/
@@sherylparsons2104 How do you know ?
The book of mormon contradicts the true teachings of god in the bible. Joseph Smith is the imposter that the bible talks about. @@sherylparsons2104
Thank you so much for sharing! This story will help alot of people.
Thank you so much for sharing. It was so heartfelt, genuine and perfectly shared. So many of us share your sentiments and you put it all into words. Thank you ❤
Wow this was a really powerful watch all around but I had to comment that while it isn't the core message being shared, I got teary-eyed at sensing the love between you two! The love between you is palpable. I have to imagine that a lot of Mormon couples may have similar stories except when one partner shares a "struggle" they've had that doesn't align with church values, their partner may stick with the church and turn away from their partner. The fact that your love for each other allowed you to walk through this together is really beautiful.
Thank's for your video. Now I know that you can feel an air of freedom, that something heavy from your back has gone. and see life with better understanding. Love you guys!!!!!
Thank you for this video. I wish you all much joy.
1. Thank you for sharing your journey. I feel very honored to have come upon it.
2. When the Family Proclamation came out, I knew one of my best friends would eventually leave.
It took him 18 years, and I'm happy for him.
He finally realizes that God really is just.....LOVE and God is not confined in an institution, a proclamation, or a book. That LOVE is infinite and eternal.
This was so important, and I’m so thankful that you guys were honest with yourselves and came to the conclusion that you did. Love really does make everything work - love wins!
Those end clips got me 🥺🥲 thankyou for your very informative and eye opening video.
Wow! I just watched this, and while not a Mormon (thank god) I have studied the LSD Church and your "testimony" of leaving and finding Life is tremendously moving and appreciated. I hope your new life journey continues for all of you as a family in whatever blessed dimensions it grows. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this. It was so moving and beautifully done. Great editing and found footage too. Wishing you all the very best ❤️❤️❤️
Wow! I’m speechless and in tears here. All I can say by now is thank you, thank you guys so much for this wonderful video! God bless you and your beautiful family with a life full of love, joy, health and accomplishment. 🙏🏻❤️❤️🤗
You are both so loving and beautiful and courageous! Thank you for sharing your story. Much love to you and your family. I am so proud of you.
My boyfriend is an ex LDS member and he is traumatized from it. Luckily, his entire immediate family is no longer a part either so he didn’t have to experience being shunned by his own family. I feel sad that he never got to experience the real love God can offer because the LDS church is about control, not love.
Your marriage here on earth is not for eternity. The Bible says.. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Mormonism is a cult.
You guys are so amazing. You for being compassionate,supportive, loving and Shea for being brave, honest, finally authentic. It takes a lout to be one hundred percent vulnerable and authentic. Showing every part of who we are is scary, but beautiful, also. I hope the best for both of you and your family. I hope that if Shea decides he would like to transition that you both hold on to these feeling because as hard as it may be it may be liberating and loving to each other.
Wow. I sincerely commend you guys for having the courage to release this video. I know how scary it could have been. As someone who grew up with so many questions regarding the religion I was taught to believe, this video hit so close to home. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
This is very powerful . Thank you for sharing this with the world.
THIS!!!! Thank you so much for making this video! 💗🙏
I am a queer Latter-day Saint going through the same cognitive dissonance. Thank you so much for laying out your reasons in such a beautiful, thoughtful, and respectful way. While I still see myself remaining a part of this church, stories like this are incredibly valuable to me. I feel seen, validated, acknowledged, but also not pressured to abandon something that still means too much to me to let go. Your family should be commended for your integrity and faith to jump off that cliff of belief and dive into a life that is healthier and happier for you. More people need to hear stories like this so that they can more clearly decide for themselves how they want to proceed with their faith. Leaving doesn't make you evil. Leaving doesn't mean you've been led astray by lies and deceit. Leaving does have very valid reasons.
@@jimwills2094 That's a really interesting question. Short answer: yes, I believe I would be accepted into heaven.
Long answer: I believe that Jesus cares about each and every person, deeply and individually. I believe that God looks on the heart of every person. My intentions have always been to learn and follow God's commandments. Even though I'm struggling with aspects of my faith, I still live up to every promise I have made to God to the best of my ability, and I repent when I do wrong. None of us mortal beings will ever achieve perfection, and I believe that God knows my intentions. I believe that I am doing what I can, and because of my faith and actions, I am loved and welcomed by Him and Jesus Christ.
@@roftherealm3418 correct that's when Jesus' plan. The Jews were told to sacrifice animals for a temporary covering for our sin until the Messiah came and He would then be the Lamb of God who's blood will take away our sin permanently. He is the blood atonement. Our redeemer. He random Himself for us. The debt was paid for our sin in full. He said His last words on the cross it is finished.
Well said
Wow! I am so proud of you guys for the courage to speak out your truth. These are the first steps to heal your wounds/traumas.
Thank you for sharing your story. It's important for people to hear your truth.
What an inspirational journey your family has experienced. Thanks for sharing it with the whole world.
Thank you so much for being brave enough to share your story. So glad your family found the love in knowing each other fully and completely and honestly.
This is one of the most bravest heartfelt videos I’ve seen on TH-cam. Your story was deeply moving. God bless.
This was really well done. Thank you for sharing your compassion with others ❤
Incandescently beautiful! 🥰 Thank you both for sharing your story 🤍
You both are such beautiful spirits and I’m grateful for your courage to put this out there. Also… the editing is TOP level! I remember so many of those clips. I wish you both the best.
I love your story. I left the church after 30 years of being raised in it and trying to conform to it and I couldn't do it anymore. Now I'm trying to find my place without it
🙏 Love and prayers to find a Blessed Life.
@@brendabrownen6684 Consider finding a solid Bible-teaching local church! But first find out who God/Jesus is by reading the bible. I left the LDS after 23 years and wandered a long time. A lot of opportunities and joy squandered, and bad experiences. God is real and wants relationship with you, unless a man is born again he will not see the kingdom, John 3.
I am having this same problem. I left after 40 years. I’m afraid to go anywhere else. I can’t bear lies anymore. It’s just me, my Bible and my prayers.
@@helenwalker716 Amen. I phase in and out of struggles as we all do, yet I have church, faith in Jesus, and Bible. But fellowship with brothers and sisters in Christ is imperative!
I second Teejay. Find a Bible teaching church. A church that preaches verse by verse chapter by chapter. Keep it simple! Find a church that prunes you and directs you to the truth. Also stay away from"Spiritual experience" and churches that guilt you into giving money all the time.
Thank you for sharing your painful yet most powerful story. I know that you will help many who are struggling through their own personal pain. I hope that you can find comfort in knowing that by sharing your story you have aided others along their difficult paths. Thank you. I want to hug your entire family!
I'm agnostic after growing up Episcopalian, blessings to you both and your JOY exudes from you both! ✌️& 💗 thank you for your testimonies!