Serie called Frieren talentless in relation to her age because Serie expects more for someone has lived more than a thousand years. (This is also why Frieren said that she isn't the mage Serie wishes her to be) Serie's capabilities are also way beyond what Frieren can do. Lernen, the old 1st-class mage was able to detect Frieren's real mana, compared it to Serie saying it's almost as big but what he fails to realize is that the mana Serie is projecting is also suppressed. This means that Frieren's full mana is only as big compared to Serie's suppressed mana. Another thing about Serie is that her words do not always reflect her action. She first did not agree with Flamme's will but then she established this system of having first class mages of who she closely mentors. She also said that the spell of flowers was stupid yet cultivates a greenhouse full of it. And finally, she regrets having human apprentice only to be excited to take Fern as hers.
Serie's a fun character. She's an OG tsundere. Despite how she talks down on her peers, she does seem to genuinely care about all her apprentices; otherwise, she wouldn't care to remember things like Flamme's favorite spell and dreams, or Sense's quirk of being silent when troubled. There's a lot of irony in her actions too. She didn't want to carry out Flamme's will, but 1000 years later, she chooses to head the Continental Magic Association. She calls the field of flowers spell useless, but she proctors her exam in a greenhouse full of flowers. She says constantly suppressing your mana is an unpractical, inefficient skill, yet she's mastered the ability to an even greater extent than Frieren. If their default mana suppression is 1/10th of their total mana (how Flamme instructed Frieren to do), then Serie's actual mana pool is 10 times the size of Frieren's. It seems to me that the way Serie speaks vs the way she acts is her way of coping with her own extended lifespan. She has to constantly downplay the importance of the humans in her life because she knows she'll outlive them all. As far as the dub's quality goes, it's pretty good and worth watching if you want to focus on the visuals. I don't think it hits as hard as the Japanese voice acting, but they still chose some really good voices for all the characters.
Regarding Serie's use of mana suppression. The technique wouldn't really be that useful for her in combat. She's so famous that it is highly unlikely it would prompt anyone to underestimate her in battle in any way that would be materially useful to Serie in a fight. And even suppressed she presents as having the largest mana pool of any mage alive in the entire history of the world as it is. So her using the technique is, basically, "on a whim." Like taking Flamme as a student was "on a whim". As in, she's doing it simply because it reminds her of Flamme.
She also is described as a war monger who claims to only care about talented mages, but she intervenes and changes the usual final test stage to one with zero combat, just so that the weaker examinees would not have to be exposed to a high risk of getting killed.
I think what Serie means when she said that Frieren is not that powerful for her age is not because Frieren is weak for an elf, she was the strongest in her village, she is a genius. I think she means that she could be much more powerful if she was like Serie, Frieren doesn't care about conflict and power as much
Yeah. Serie is judging Frieren only on combat power, and we know Frieren actually puts more of her energy and effort into learning non-combat magic. But of course, this also means that what we saw Frieren and her clone uncork in the battle in the last two episodes, is something that Serie would consider to be "weak".
If you rewatch episode2, when frieren use flower magic, Himmel face expression show that he not first time saw flower magic. This is the little detail.
Frieren IS talented. However, most of the skills we've seen have been honed over time. Her true talent, her genius, will be displayed in an upcoming arc.
Basicly Serie full release manna pull at least ten times larger then full Frieren mana pull and she is better then Frieren in terms of concealing it (probably it was Serie who teach Flamme how to use this trick in first place). . Lernen was able to detect that Frieren hiding her true mana pull (first in decades after Demon King himself), but he fail to saw the same in Serie. Fern was able to detect it
We do not necessarily know that for sure. It's not a given that a mage suppressing their mana will always reduce themselves to 10% of the their maximum. The visual representation of how much mana Frieren was showing was noticeably smaller during her fight with Aura than it was at the beginning of the mage exam when Lernen was observing her. So she likely suppressed it extra low for the sake of deceiving Aura, while for the mage exam she was letting it ride higher. Meaning that Serie very likely can also choose to display however much mana she wishes to. It may be that she is only suppressing her mana a little bit, because she's only using ability for sentimental reasons (in memory of Flamme), or she could be suppressing it a lot lower than 10% because she's just that good at it. So her mana pool relative to Frieren's can still range from maybe only 5 times as big to maybe even 100 times larger.
@@adamwu4565 Well, it's also based off of their current mana, not their total possible. She may have suppressed it even further to appear like she was expending an excessive amount dispelling Aura's curse
@@Алексей545-т6б Yes, but in that scene Flamme was only suggesting that value as a target for Frieren to practice at, near the very start of her training in the skill. There's no reason to think that the 10% number is somehow locked in as what Frieren always does. Indeed, since that scene was at the very beginning of Frieren's training, we would actually expect that she can likely do much more than 10% now if she wishes to.
@@adamwu4565Lerner said that Frieren's unrestricted mana was almost the same as Serie's mana, meaning he has seen how much mana Frieren has. He probably knows how to judge the true amount of mana someone has if he hasn't seen her with it unrestricted. We know this because of Serie's own comments that Lerner was the only one to have so much control and detection capabilities that he managed to see that Frieren was concealing her mana. But, at the same time she comments that even he was not able to see the fluctuation in her own mana, meaning that Lerner assumes the mana he sees her output is her total mana. And comparing the mana Serie is shown to output in the anime and manga, it is comparable to Frieren's output when she unleased it against Aura. Now, assuming that Serie taught Flamme the way to restrict her mana, a safe assumption since Flamme was taught by Serie since she was a child, that means that the restriction method should be the same, meaning 1/10 of the total output. That means that Serie's mana pool that we see is 1/10 of her maximum output, and that 1/10 is even larger than Frieren's total output. While we make some assumptions, those are all pretty safe assumptions to make I believe, and those assumptions are all almost validated later on in the story. In sort, Serie is an absolute monster, Frieren is a moderate mage for an Elf, and Fern has amazing potential. If Frieren ever had to face Serie in battle, then she would say the same thing Denken said, no thanks I'm bailing out.
I like how much of a tsundere serie is. She goes from saying she'll never have another human student to trying to poach fern like a few hours later. She refused flammes request of helping humans to spread magic to leading human mages the world over. says flammes spell to make flowers is useless but is in room full of flowers :D
The anime made a bigger contrast than the manga between Fern's silence (when she was asked by Richter whether she was Frieren's disciple) when she was upset with Frieren, versus her final proud and loud declaration that she is Frieren's disciple after Frieren had her staff fixed for her.
Heiter's dialogue in the manga in that flashback was a bit more clear in describing what Fern was realizing in the moment. He's basically just saying "Yeah, Frieren struggles with understanding humans. While this will make some people upset (like Fern), Frieren cares about the problems that she might create and will put in the effort to fix the situation/grow from it (which Heiter said he finds admirable about her in the manga)." Also, in the manga instead of saying "few masters are better than her," he says, "you will truly find no master better than her," which I liked better hehe cause Frieren is best master ofc. But we love Flamme and Serie, too.
I personally suspect Frieren is especially good at what she does because Flamme approved of how far she had gotten in her training 3 years in and later 50 (53?) years in. That, or Flamme was using a human measuring stick to hypothesize what an elf could accomplish in the long run?
Wait till you guys see the rest of the interviews. One of them is hilarious. Two of them are ballsy. Edit: Just realized Himmel could never win the Frieren Bowl cos he has blue hair AND is technically a childhood friend 😭
Inefficient and impractical if your goal is to achieve the ultimate in general magical combat power, as Serie values. But if what you value most is peaceful magic and the only reason you want combat magic is to fight Demons specifically, then the value metric is different.
No Frieren is very talented, like she said only the demon King only saw through her mana suppression, her analytical abilities are also top tier, she was the strongest elf in her village despite being a younger elf, serie dislikes her because they have opposing viewpoints, so she undermines her whenever she can
Really sad moment that is really easy to miss is that after Fern turns Serie down. Serie is looking at Fern and is smiling as she says "I'd be foolish to turn down a promising mage", but as she turns her head away she loses the smile and says you pass with her back to Fern. She loves magic in her way and i think wants to share it with others but doesn't have the emotional/social skill to deal with people who are orders of magnitude weaker than her. When she meets someone who she thinks can bond with her on nearly equal footing about magic she gets very excited, but it also leads to constant disappointment because they reject her or just fail to live up to her expectations. It leaves her very lonely, something she may not even completely realize with how dense Elves are when it comes to their emotions. A lot of it is of her own doing for sure, but i think Serie is a really tragic character and a great foil for Frieren and and example of how she could have turned out if she had never met Himmel
The spell Frieren talked about back in episode 26, when she said she hadn't been pushed so hard as to use it in 80 years, referred to whatever that force push she did on Fern was, what Fern called The Height of Magic. The spell Frieren did that killed clone Frieren was a simple zoltraak that she cast from under clone Frieren... that was the circle you saw on the ground, under clone Frieren's feet. So that wasn't the big spell she hadn't used in 80 years, the big spell was whatever clone Frieren did to push Fern back.
Thankfully there is enough manga content for a season 2, with it also having the pinnacle best arc perfectly placed to be the finale of a second season. But the real question is, is madhouse actually going to do a season 2?
Well they did overlord for 4 seasons now so why can't they do this also... frieren is topping the anime charts rating and on number 1... on animelist at 9.17
Serie and Ferien are foils. Both are strong, long-lived elves, but their philosophies on both magic and life are directly opposed. Could Ferien be strong at this point in her life? Yes of course she can, if she spent her all her time gaining combat experience and developing powerful spells. Ferien just doesnt believe thats worth while. She'd rather spend her time seeking folk magic, mostly because she enjoys the journey in finding it. And that leads us to the crux of the matter. To Frienen, the journey is more important than the end point, while Serie getting to the end (height of magic) is more important than the journey there. Also, you can tell by Serie's actions she knows Ferien is correct in her views. She's just too proud to admit it, and that annoys her to no end. Serie is a tsundere through and through. This is illustrated so well by Serie saying that a spell to create a field of flowers us useless, while standing and enjoying a field of flowers presumably made by that very magic.
So Serie compressed mana is much more than Frieren max mana 😭 She really can go h2h with the Demon King and bring peace to the world but she just doesn’t want too 😭💀
@@andrewli6606 Being a Demon he could easily be physically very imposing, and in one of the more recent manga chapters, Frieren says that a powerful warrior can defeat even the strongest mage if he attacks from a close enough range that the mage doesn't have time to react and cast any spells, and states that Stark could succesfully kill both her and Fern if he surprises them from within a distance of about half a room. If the Demon King was particularly fast and superhumanly durable, then Serie could struggle to defeat him on her own no matter how much mana she is or how many spells she knows.
@@adamwu4565 And not all magic in Frieren is about destruction, depending on the Demon King's magic, he could be a bad matchup against Serie, which would make it impossible for her to beat him.
@@1athn-780 I read the manga, and it was never stated or shown that she can beat him. We don't know the Demon King power or how old he is, he could been older than her, and again, the Demon King could've simple be a bad matchup for Serie, what would make nearly impossible for her to beat him, we just don't know
The fact that Serie's suppressed mana is equal to Frieren's unsuppressed mana that her actually mana pool much be so much more enormous. I wonder if she taught Flamme the surpression trick or did Flamme invent it herself?
I heard that the dub for Frieren is good, and I liked it based on the small clips I've seen here and there, so you might like it if you decide to watch it all again once it's done next week
Yeah, Serie and Frieren don't see the world the same way. Frieren couldn't care less about being a First Class Mage. Serie knows that and fails her because that's perfectly fine with Frieren anyway. Fern is the first one that could see that Serie is suppressing her mana because Fern could detect the fluctuations. Serie is better than Frieren at controlling her mana even though she said that suppressing and hiding it was a waste of time. Even then Serie cannot suppress her mana any more than Frieren's full unsuppressed mana. We don't know how much power Serie has, we don't know if we're seeing 10% of her mana or only 1%. It's no wonder that some see her as a Goddess while others hate and fear her.
The setup of purple hair with Frieren was a great touch or even essential reminder to why purple would care about her teacher. Ever since the mage battles , this turned from great writing but not my type of show to wait I like this. Guess all I needed was some actual consequences to be sprinkled.
Serie is in short: a tsundere...hehe From what she is saying is obviously the opposite, she says a spell of casting flower of beds is useless but in her place, it is surrounded by bed of flowers, she does not want humans to take an apprentice but asks fern who is a human to be her apprentice...
About "Frieren is not strong enough for her age" - basicly what Serie means - making hidden your mana to the point of perfection (otherwise you would fail to trick demons which are very sensitive to this) take a lot of time. Time you that can spend on lerning other things (destructive spells, advanced combat magic, whatever). Like hundreds of years which for humans is unsustainable (due short lifespan) - it better to use your time properly and lern something else. But Frieren could afford such "waste" for herself and she turn it into weapon against demons (to the point where only Demon King was able to look beyond her trick) . Serie basicly here praising Frieren for her tactic and amount of efford she put into this. More then this - considering that Serie even better at hidding her true manna then Frieren - it look like at some point of time she use that tactic herself
Maybe it wasn't for the same reasons as Flamme and Frieren. Her mana pool is so large that it is a hassle to meet other mages as they would be overwhelmed by that. So she almost always suppress her mana.
i dont know if its true or not but i hear theres a 2nd season for Frieren. I just saw it on X a few days ago. Hoping its true because next two Arcs are the best ones next to Aura's fight.
No, that goat arc is much better than Aura arc. I can't wait to see it! And the fact that this exam arc is known to be the worst arc in Frieren is crazy considering how good it was.
@@Ray-rz8hb nah. i still like Aura's KYS than the exams. the only thing I liked here is the Frieren clone fight and Serie getting juked by Fern next episode. Basically Frieren carried the exam arc like Serie said.
@@shrimps616-tiktok I'm not sure if Aura's KYS alone is better than all of the exam arc, but personally Aura's arc was better than the exam arc overall. I think you misunderstood my comment?
My theory is that Fern is going to be the Flamme of her generation because she improving at such a rapid pace. Stark was very underutilised this arc and why I was getting less excited for the next episodes. Frieren did say that she lost to 6 humans that were more skilled than her so could be true what Serie said.
I think Serie is basically the grandma that doesn't approve of her granddaughter's (which Frieren basically is) career choice as a TH-camr. "Why make these stupid videos when you could work as an engineer or something?"
Serier used the phrase 'us humanoids'. It lumps elves and humans together. She acts like a racist on the outside, but on the inside she respects humans more than anyone else and considers them family.
In the Japanese original, she called the humans "those children" and each of Flamme and Lernen "that child". She really sees human as an adult sees young children, rather than seeing human either as weak and useless or as competition.
Serie always says the opposite of what she means. She loves Frieren and Flamme so much. She built a flower greenhouse ,surpressed her mana and basically trained all powerful human mages and established the mage association.
don't know why fern was the basis of "the era of humans have arrived" when there are already strong humans before like himmel, heiter, lernen, and flamme. Not to mention the character hero of the south which frieren mentioned before to be mankind's strongest. So the era of humans should've started a long time ago. Or the era of humans means when humans start to see the fluctuation of serie's mana?
Age of Humanity already began when Flamme began to spread knowledge of magic. And Flamme is a freak of nature then being tutored by the greatest mage around, she is not part of the Age of Humanity But those Heroes are not mages. Most of them are warriors, even Hero of the South seemed to used his swords as main weapon. There was no human before Fern.
13:40 its funny to watch ppl telling Aura could have a good shot in EP 27, after they saw all that shit in EP 25-26... are you guys serious? Aura had no chance, not even slightly, same as Qual. just look at her spells, she could wipe Aura's entire army with that black Zoltrack her clone used against her. the only reason she didn't do it, is that she didn't want to damage those corpses. but if she was in danger she could just nuke Aura and her army at once. it was one-way fight, period.
All I did was quote Frieren herself... We also have been told and shown that Frieren isn't the world's strongest or most powerful mage. Keeping that in mind isn't necessarily a bad or negative thing.
@@TheGenreVerse, i mean, yea, she's not the strongest, just 2nd strongest of all who still alive. as for Aura, her army can be counter by simple levitation. Frieren doing what she did had 2 reasons: 1) she didn't want to damage those corpses Aura controlled and 2)she didn't want Aura to escape AGAIN, because she did escape from thier party ~80 years ago. Frieren wanted Aura to cast that spell on her, because it gauranties Aura won't escape. and Aura's arrogance was almost a guarantie of her not having a way to cancel her own spell. Frieren sayd she would be in trouble if Aura try to overwhelm her with nimbers, butcause in that case keeping those corpses undamaged would be almost impossible.
My theory for the test was half right I expected a Serie interview I just expected the main question to be what spell did the person want and if they refused like friren did years ago they passed but this works to so I'll give my self a little credit. Also as iv said nearly every week definitely recemend the dub the actors are great only real iffy one is specially when stark goes in scard mode the voice doesn't work as well but normall stark is great and the dubs diologe when they have to change for lip flaps or just the general changes you have to make from one language to another is also great last week's dubed episode had me laphing at a bunch of ubels lines
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That assumes she suppresses her mana at the same rate as Frieren. Could potentially be either more or less. In a straight magic fight, she'll always win. Specific circumstances or non-mage tactics would be needed to defeat her. Serie wouldn't regard herself as invincible.
Serie is more powerful than Frieren, she can kill DemonLord easily. Yet, she never wish the war to be end. War creates stronger mage. She don't care peace.
Disregard for characterization and lack of empathizing with characters will invariably result in this kind of reaction unfortunately. Thankfully it isn't near as bad as say, the S.O.S brothers, but it's still difficult to listen to theories and readings of scenes and characters that come from the flanderization of said scenes and characters.
Yes Frieren is weak compared to other elfs because frieren wasted a 1000 yrs of her life not doing much of anything to get stronger compared to other elfs that are currently alive
@@TheGenreVerse In a previous episode when Frieren rejected Himmel's first invitation (the episode where she was trying to recruit the Seine the priest), she had already said that she had not fought for 500 years by the time Himmel found her and she had forgotten how to fight even though her goal was supposed to be getting better until she could defeat the Demon King. That's a big chunk of her life wasted. Later (in Season 2) you will see why.
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Serie called Frieren talentless in relation to her age because Serie expects more for someone has lived more than a thousand years. (This is also why Frieren said that she isn't the mage Serie wishes her to be)
Serie's capabilities are also way beyond what Frieren can do. Lernen, the old 1st-class mage was able to detect Frieren's real mana, compared it to Serie saying it's almost as big but what he fails to realize is that the mana Serie is projecting is also suppressed. This means that Frieren's full mana is only as big compared to Serie's suppressed mana.
Another thing about Serie is that her words do not always reflect her action. She first did not agree with Flamme's will but then she established this system of having first class mages of who she closely mentors. She also said that the spell of flowers was stupid yet cultivates a greenhouse full of it. And finally, she regrets having human apprentice only to be excited to take Fern as hers.
yep Serie its an absolute monster
Thanks for sharing the context!
An absolute Tsundere 😂
I wonder how many people noticed the split second of Serie's disappointment on her face when she finally turned away and gave up on Fern.
You could see and hear she was truly excited at the thought of Fern as a student. That's why I called her thirsty.
Serie's a fun character. She's an OG tsundere. Despite how she talks down on her peers, she does seem to genuinely care about all her apprentices; otherwise, she wouldn't care to remember things like Flamme's favorite spell and dreams, or Sense's quirk of being silent when troubled. There's a lot of irony in her actions too. She didn't want to carry out Flamme's will, but 1000 years later, she chooses to head the Continental Magic Association. She calls the field of flowers spell useless, but she proctors her exam in a greenhouse full of flowers. She says constantly suppressing your mana is an unpractical, inefficient skill, yet she's mastered the ability to an even greater extent than Frieren. If their default mana suppression is 1/10th of their total mana (how Flamme instructed Frieren to do), then Serie's actual mana pool is 10 times the size of Frieren's. It seems to me that the way Serie speaks vs the way she acts is her way of coping with her own extended lifespan. She has to constantly downplay the importance of the humans in her life because she knows she'll outlive them all.
As far as the dub's quality goes, it's pretty good and worth watching if you want to focus on the visuals. I don't think it hits as hard as the Japanese voice acting, but they still chose some really good voices for all the characters.
Regarding Serie's use of mana suppression. The technique wouldn't really be that useful for her in combat. She's so famous that it is highly unlikely it would prompt anyone to underestimate her in battle in any way that would be materially useful to Serie in a fight. And even suppressed she presents as having the largest mana pool of any mage alive in the entire history of the world as it is. So her using the technique is, basically, "on a whim." Like taking Flamme as a student was "on a whim".
As in, she's doing it simply because it reminds her of Flamme.
She also is described as a war monger who claims to only care about talented mages, but she intervenes and changes the usual final test stage to one with zero combat, just so that the weaker examinees would not have to be exposed to a high risk of getting killed.
I think what Serie means when she said that Frieren is not that powerful for her age is not because Frieren is weak for an elf, she was the strongest in her village, she is a genius. I think she means that she could be much more powerful if she was like Serie, Frieren doesn't care about conflict and power as much
Yeah. Serie is judging Frieren only on combat power, and we know Frieren actually puts more of her energy and effort into learning non-combat magic.
But of course, this also means that what we saw Frieren and her clone uncork in the battle in the last two episodes, is something that Serie would consider to be "weak".
As someone who is a battle freak
If you rewatch episode2, when frieren use flower magic, Himmel face expression show that he not first time saw flower magic. This is the little detail.
Frieren IS talented. However, most of the skills we've seen have been honed over time. Her true talent, her genius, will be displayed in an upcoming arc.
Basicly Serie full release manna pull at least ten times larger then full Frieren mana pull and she is better then Frieren in terms of concealing it (probably it was Serie who teach Flamme how to use this trick in first place).
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Lernen was able to detect that Frieren hiding her true mana pull (first in decades after Demon King himself), but he fail to saw the same in Serie. Fern was able to detect it
We do not necessarily know that for sure. It's not a given that a mage suppressing their mana will always reduce themselves to 10% of the their maximum. The visual representation of how much mana Frieren was showing was noticeably smaller during her fight with Aura than it was at the beginning of the mage exam when Lernen was observing her. So she likely suppressed it extra low for the sake of deceiving Aura, while for the mage exam she was letting it ride higher. Meaning that Serie very likely can also choose to display however much mana she wishes to. It may be that she is only suppressing her mana a little bit, because she's only using ability for sentimental reasons (in memory of Flamme), or she could be suppressing it a lot lower than 10% because she's just that good at it. So her mana pool relative to Frieren's can still range from maybe only 5 times as big to maybe even 100 times larger.
@@adamwu4565 I based it on Flamme teachings to Frieren if we consider that it was Serie who teach Flamme how to hide her manna
@@adamwu4565 Well, it's also based off of their current mana, not their total possible. She may have suppressed it even further to appear like she was expending an excessive amount dispelling Aura's curse
@@Алексей545-т6б Yes, but in that scene Flamme was only suggesting that value as a target for Frieren to practice at, near the very start of her training in the skill. There's no reason to think that the 10% number is somehow locked in as what Frieren always does. Indeed, since that scene was at the very beginning of Frieren's training, we would actually expect that she can likely do much more than 10% now if she wishes to.
@@adamwu4565Lerner said that Frieren's unrestricted mana was almost the same as Serie's mana, meaning he has seen how much mana Frieren has. He probably knows how to judge the true amount of mana someone has if he hasn't seen her with it unrestricted. We know this because of Serie's own comments that Lerner was the only one to have so much control and detection capabilities that he managed to see that Frieren was concealing her mana. But, at the same time she comments that even he was not able to see the fluctuation in her own mana, meaning that Lerner assumes the mana he sees her output is her total mana.
And comparing the mana Serie is shown to output in the anime and manga, it is comparable to Frieren's output when she unleased it against Aura. Now, assuming that Serie taught Flamme the way to restrict her mana, a safe assumption since Flamme was taught by Serie since she was a child, that means that the restriction method should be the same, meaning 1/10 of the total output. That means that Serie's mana pool that we see is 1/10 of her maximum output, and that 1/10 is even larger than Frieren's total output.
While we make some assumptions, those are all pretty safe assumptions to make I believe, and those assumptions are all almost validated later on in the story.
In sort, Serie is an absolute monster, Frieren is a moderate mage for an Elf, and Fern has amazing potential. If Frieren ever had to face Serie in battle, then she would say the same thing Denken said, no thanks I'm bailing out.
I like how much of a tsundere serie is. She goes from saying she'll never have another human student to trying to poach fern like a few hours later. She refused flammes request of helping humans to spread magic to leading human mages the world over. says flammes spell to make flowers is useless but is in room full of flowers :D
The anime made a bigger contrast than the manga between Fern's silence (when she was asked by Richter whether she was Frieren's disciple) when she was upset with Frieren, versus her final proud and loud declaration that she is Frieren's disciple after Frieren had her staff fixed for her.
Heiter's dialogue in the manga in that flashback was a bit more clear in describing what Fern was realizing in the moment. He's basically just saying "Yeah, Frieren struggles with understanding humans. While this will make some people upset (like Fern), Frieren cares about the problems that she might create and will put in the effort to fix the situation/grow from it (which Heiter said he finds admirable about her in the manga)." Also, in the manga instead of saying "few masters are better than her," he says, "you will truly find no master better than her," which I liked better hehe cause Frieren is best master ofc. But we love Flamme and Serie, too.
I personally suspect Frieren is especially good at what she does because Flamme approved of how far she had gotten in her training 3 years in and later 50 (53?) years in. That, or Flamme was using a human measuring stick to hypothesize what an elf could accomplish in the long run?
Wait till you guys see the rest of the interviews. One of them is hilarious. Two of them are ballsy.
Edit: Just realized Himmel could never win the Frieren Bowl cos he has blue hair AND is technically a childhood friend
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Excited for it!
I know what you mean your definitely right about it, I can't wait for the next episode
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Inefficient and impractical if your goal is to achieve the ultimate in general magical combat power, as Serie values. But if what you value most is peaceful magic and the only reason you want combat magic is to fight Demons specifically, then the value metric is different.
No Frieren is very talented, like she said only the demon King only saw through her mana suppression, her analytical abilities are also top tier, she was the strongest elf in her village despite being a younger elf, serie dislikes her because they have opposing viewpoints, so she undermines her whenever she can
Fern becomes deeply attached to her staff; she definitely seems like the type who would resole her Red Wing boots after every battle.😂
Great reaction! Glad you're really enjoying yourselves! Been along for the ride the whole time.
Awww... Thanks! It's nice to be liked!
Really sad moment that is really easy to miss is that after Fern turns Serie down. Serie is looking at Fern and is smiling as she says "I'd be foolish to turn down a promising mage", but as she turns her head away she loses the smile and says you pass with her back to Fern. She loves magic in her way and i think wants to share it with others but doesn't have the emotional/social skill to deal with people who are orders of magnitude weaker than her. When she meets someone who she thinks can bond with her on nearly equal footing about magic she gets very excited, but it also leads to constant disappointment because they reject her or just fail to live up to her expectations. It leaves her very lonely, something she may not even completely realize with how dense Elves are when it comes to their emotions. A lot of it is of her own doing for sure, but i think Serie is a really tragic character and a great foil for Frieren and and example of how she could have turned out if she had never met Himmel
You could tell she had genuine interest in her as a student. I called her "thirsty" for it.
This episode is amazing! I can only imagine what the finale is going to be like. Either way it's going to be awesome!
The spell Frieren talked about back in episode 26, when she said she hadn't been pushed so hard as to use it in 80 years, referred to whatever that force push she did on Fern was, what Fern called The Height of Magic. The spell Frieren did that killed clone Frieren was a simple zoltraak that she cast from under clone Frieren... that was the circle you saw on the ground, under clone Frieren's feet.
So that wasn't the big spell she hadn't used in 80 years, the big spell was whatever clone Frieren did to push Fern back.
Thanks for the clarification.
Thankfully there is enough manga content for a season 2, with it also having the pinnacle best arc perfectly placed to be the finale of a second season. But the real question is, is madhouse actually going to do a season 2?
I can't see them not. The anime is being discussed as a possible number 1 of all time. Then again it's Madhouse lol
Well they did overlord for 4 seasons now so why can't they do this also... frieren is topping the anime charts rating and on number 1... on animelist at 9.17
I was waitin for this since the episode dropped lol
Awww. Glad to be entertaining enough to be a "can't wait" watch! Thanks!
Serie and Ferien are foils. Both are strong, long-lived elves, but their philosophies on both magic and life are directly opposed. Could Ferien be strong at this point in her life? Yes of course she can, if she spent her all her time gaining combat experience and developing powerful spells. Ferien just doesnt believe thats worth while. She'd rather spend her time seeking folk magic, mostly because she enjoys the journey in finding it. And that leads us to the crux of the matter. To Frienen, the journey is more important than the end point, while Serie getting to the end (height of magic) is more important than the journey there.
Also, you can tell by Serie's actions she knows Ferien is correct in her views. She's just too proud to admit it, and that annoys her to no end. Serie is a tsundere through and through. This is illustrated so well by Serie saying that a spell to create a field of flowers us useless, while standing and enjoying a field of flowers presumably made by that very magic.
So Serie compressed mana is much more than Frieren max mana 😭
She really can go h2h with the Demon King and bring peace to the world but she just doesn’t want too 😭💀
Well, we don't know the Demon King's power. He could have some OP power that immense magic alone wouldn't overcome.
@@andrewli6606 Being a Demon he could easily be physically very imposing, and in one of the more recent manga chapters, Frieren says that a powerful warrior can defeat even the strongest mage if he attacks from a close enough range that the mage doesn't have time to react and cast any spells, and states that Stark could succesfully kill both her and Fern if he surprises them from within a distance of about half a room. If the Demon King was particularly fast and superhumanly durable, then Serie could struggle to defeat him on her own no matter how much mana she is or how many spells she knows.
@@adamwu4565 And not all magic in Frieren is about destruction, depending on the Demon King's magic, he could be a bad matchup against Serie, which would make it impossible for her to beat him.
@@seiyajin8151 absolutely not serie can destroy him (as a manga reader) you’ll find out when u see her fight 😭
@@1athn-780 I read the manga, and it was never stated or shown that she can beat him. We don't know the Demon King power or how old he is, he could been older than her, and again, the Demon King could've simple be a bad matchup for Serie, what would make nearly impossible for her to beat him, we just don't know
The fact that Serie's suppressed mana is equal to Frieren's unsuppressed mana that her actually mana pool much be so much more enormous. I wonder if she taught Flamme the surpression trick or did Flamme invent it herself?
I'm thinking Serie taught Flamme but that it was Flamme that saw the utility to it's full potential. Maybe. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I heard that the dub for Frieren is good, and I liked it based on the small clips I've seen here and there, so you might like it if you decide to watch it all again once it's done next week
Yeah, Serie and Frieren don't see the world the same way. Frieren couldn't care less about being a First Class Mage. Serie knows that and fails her because that's perfectly fine with Frieren anyway. Fern is the first one that could see that Serie is suppressing her mana because Fern could detect the fluctuations. Serie is better than Frieren at controlling her mana even though she said that suppressing and hiding it was a waste of time. Even then Serie cannot suppress her mana any more than Frieren's full unsuppressed mana. We don't know how much power Serie has, we don't know if we're seeing 10% of her mana or only 1%. It's no wonder that some see her as a Goddess while others hate and fear her.
The setup of purple hair with Frieren
was a great touch or even essential reminder to why purple would care about her teacher.
Ever since the mage battles , this turned from great writing but not my type of show to wait I like this.
Guess all I needed was some actual consequences to be sprinkled.
Serie is in short: a tsundere...hehe
From what she is saying is obviously the opposite, she says a spell of casting flower of beds is useless but in her place, it is surrounded by bed of flowers, she does not want humans to take an apprentice but asks fern who is a human to be her apprentice...
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About "Frieren is not strong enough for her age" - basicly what Serie means - making hidden your mana to the point of perfection (otherwise you would fail to trick demons which are very sensitive to this) take a lot of time. Time you that can spend on lerning other things (destructive spells, advanced combat magic, whatever). Like hundreds of years which for humans is unsustainable (due short lifespan) - it better to use your time properly and lern something else. But Frieren could afford such "waste" for herself and she turn it into weapon against demons (to the point where only Demon King was able to look beyond her trick)
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Serie basicly here praising Frieren for her tactic and amount of efford she put into this. More then this - considering that Serie even better at hidding her true manna then Frieren - it look like at some point of time she use that tactic herself
Great points. Thanks!
Maybe it wasn't for the same reasons as Flamme and Frieren.
Her mana pool is so large that it is a hassle to meet other mages as they would be overwhelmed by that. So she almost always suppress her mana.
i dont know if its true or not but i hear theres a 2nd season for Frieren. I just saw it on X a few days ago.
Hoping its true because next two Arcs are the best ones next to Aura's fight.
No, that goat arc is much better than Aura arc. I can't wait to see it! And the fact that this exam arc is known to be the worst arc in Frieren is crazy considering how good it was.
Nope, there are no announcements so far about season 2
@@Ray-rz8hb nah. i still like Aura's KYS than the exams. the only thing I liked here is the Frieren clone fight and Serie getting juked by Fern next episode.
Basically Frieren carried the exam arc like Serie said.
@@shrimps616-tiktok I'm not sure if Aura's KYS alone is better than all of the exam arc, but personally Aura's arc was better than the exam arc overall. I think you misunderstood my comment?
@@ky8252 Anime Japan 2024 will happen right after season 1 ends. Very prime for a season 2 announcement there.
thanks for the react guys
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Land: Do I pass?
Serie: No
Land 2: Do I pass?
Serie: No
Land 3: Do I pass?
Serie: No
Land 57: Do I pass?
Serie: Fine
I hope that's not a spoiler because it woulda been funny as hell...
My theory is that Fern is going to be the Flamme of her generation because she improving at such a rapid pace. Stark was very underutilised this arc and why I was getting less excited for the next episodes. Frieren did say that she lost to 6 humans that were more skilled than her so could be true what Serie said.
I think Serie is basically the grandma that doesn't approve of her granddaughter's (which Frieren basically is) career choice as a TH-camr. "Why make these stupid videos when you could work as an engineer or something?"
4:00 Ubel is on the crazy/hot spectrum in the Stay Away box.
Funny thing... I cut a bit about Barney Stinson's Hot/Crazy chart. 😆
Serier used the phrase 'us humanoids'. It lumps elves and humans together.
She acts like a racist on the outside, but on the inside she respects humans more than anyone else and considers them family.
In the Japanese original, she called the humans "those children" and each of Flamme and Lernen "that child". She really sees human as an adult sees young children, rather than seeing human either as weak and useless or as competition.
Serie: Frieren, you gotta hustle
Frieren: nah I'm chill
Serie: fail! And don't talk to me in another 1000 years!
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Serie always says the opposite of what she means. She loves Frieren and Flamme so much. She built a flower greenhouse ,surpressed her mana and basically trained all powerful human mages and established the mage association.
don't know why fern was the basis of "the era of humans have arrived" when there are already strong humans before like himmel, heiter, lernen, and flamme. Not to mention the character hero of the south which frieren mentioned before to be mankind's strongest. So the era of humans should've started a long time ago. Or the era of humans means when humans start to see the fluctuation of serie's mana?
Something says her apart from all of that and more it seems.
Age of Humanity already began when Flamme began to spread knowledge of magic.
And Flamme is a freak of nature then being tutored by the greatest mage around, she is not part of the Age of Humanity
But those Heroes are not mages. Most of them are warriors, even Hero of the South seemed to used his swords as main weapon.
There was no human before Fern.
13:40 its funny to watch ppl telling Aura could have a good shot in EP 27, after they saw all that shit in EP 25-26... are you guys serious? Aura had no chance, not even slightly, same as Qual. just look at her spells, she could wipe Aura's entire army with that black Zoltrack her clone used against her. the only reason she didn't do it, is that she didn't want to damage those corpses. but if she was in danger she could just nuke Aura and her army at once. it was one-way fight, period.
All I did was quote Frieren herself... We also have been told and shown that Frieren isn't the world's strongest or most powerful mage. Keeping that in mind isn't necessarily a bad or negative thing.
@@TheGenreVerse, i mean, yea, she's not the strongest, just 2nd strongest of all who still alive. as for Aura, her army can be counter by simple levitation. Frieren doing what she did had 2 reasons: 1) she didn't want to damage those corpses Aura controlled and 2)she didn't want Aura to escape AGAIN, because she did escape from thier party ~80 years ago. Frieren wanted Aura to cast that spell on her, because it gauranties Aura won't escape. and Aura's arrogance was almost a guarantie of her not having a way to cancel her own spell. Frieren sayd she would be in trouble if Aura try to overwhelm her with nimbers, butcause in that case keeping those corpses undamaged would be almost impossible.
My theory for the test was half right I expected a Serie interview I just expected the main question to be what spell did the person want and if they refused like friren did years ago they passed but this works to so I'll give my self a little credit. Also as iv said nearly every week definitely recemend the dub the actors are great only real iffy one is specially when stark goes in scard mode the voice doesn't work as well but normall stark is great and the dubs diologe when they have to change for lip flaps or just the general changes you have to make from one language to another is also great last week's dubed episode had me laphing at a bunch of ubels lines
Serie is a tsundere that isn't cringe.
I hope madhouse take their time in s2 to save the quality
It's been amazing and must be held to this standard! I mean... I could take a little off the top to have to wait less than 3 years lol
Regarding the dub - Mommy Frieren is a voice that grew on me the more I heard it. If Sein could break the fourth wall, he'd approve.
Nice way of putting it 😆
A series review would be great!
Serie is just a tsudere baba Lol, I hope we don't have to wait long for second season.
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So Serie's mana is at least 10 times more than Frieren. So her age is at least 10k.
That assumes she suppresses her mana at the same rate as Frieren. Could potentially be either more or less. In a straight magic fight, she'll always win. Specific circumstances or non-mage tactics would be needed to defeat her. Serie wouldn't regard herself as invincible.
One more ep and the anime is done
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Eveb if Aura had used her forces her "legitimate shot" is still not enough. You seem to forget her flight with her fake replica.
I'm only quoting/paraphrasing Frieren herself. I'm sure she would have come out on top, but it would have been more challenging.
Serie is more powerful than Frieren, she can kill DemonLord easily.
Yet, she never wish the war to be end.
War creates stronger mage.
She don't care peace.
It's harder/takes more skill and patience to maintain peace then it does to wage war. You will always have minor conflicts to keep the blades sharp.
Serie: Peace is boring
@@TheGenreVerse not to Serie
Disregard for characterization and lack of empathizing with characters will invariably result in this kind of reaction unfortunately. Thankfully it isn't near as bad as say, the S.O.S brothers, but it's still difficult to listen to theories and readings of scenes and characters that come from the flanderization of said scenes and characters.
Well... Thanks for watching?
yes - try also the dub - you can chill more ans spreciate the animation more...
Yes Frieren is weak compared to other elfs because frieren wasted a 1000 yrs of her life not doing much of anything to get stronger compared to other elfs that are currently alive
Did she really waste 1k years or are we (Readers and viewers) assuming? If that's a spoiler, don't answer 😆
@@TheGenreVerse In a previous episode when Frieren rejected Himmel's first invitation (the episode where she was trying to recruit the Seine the priest), she had already said that she had not fought for 500 years by the time Himmel found her and she had forgotten how to fight even though her goal was supposed to be getting better until she could defeat the Demon King. That's a big chunk of her life wasted. Later (in Season 2) you will see why.
serie negs the verse
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frieren English dub is trash they have no emotion at all and just reading the script they are just like robots lol
We'll see...