Regarding Loko's comparison of late EMS Sasuke and Madara, we have to remember that Madara also gets stronger during that fight. First he revives himself, and he is stronger because the Edo Tensei nerf is wearing off, but on the other hand he lost the fake Rinnegan he had. Then he absorbs Hashirama's Sage Mode, that's when he has his skirmish with Sasuke. Whether or not he let himself get stabbed, he does acknowledge Sasuke's strength and visual prowess but he still speaks to him nonchalantly, asking if he wants to become his subordinate, and then talking about taking Sasuke's eyes for the meantime after he refuses. Madara isn't concerned about Sasuke at all. So I do think he is above him, but maybe not by much. Another important statement happens after that, when he escapes staggering Sasuke and knocking down SM Naruto, and goes for the Biju. That's when Hashirama says he "is regaining his former strength", so blind SM Madara is still somewhat below his EMS version of the Valley of the End. This is consistent with Sasuke (during the Juubito fight) being said to have the potential to surpass Madara. In order to surpass someone, you need to still be below their level. Then Madara gets one of his Rinnegan back, and with that comes another amp. Then it makes sense that this Madara no diffed Sasuke. He used the Limbo clone to immobilize him, but I reckon he would still be able to beat him without it. But Sasuke came for a surprise attack in the middle of his philosophical monologue to Tobirama. He immobilized Sasuke and stabbed him with his own sword in order to echo Hashirama's words and prove that, in order to achieve peace, he would be willing to kill a friend, a brother, even one of his children (that being Sasuke, as one of his descendants). Besides, he had been previously interrupted by Tobirama himself, and he wanted to be done with it and become the Jinchuriki of the Juubi. Also, I think it's fair to scale this Madara above the EMS one because of the amp from the Rinnegan + Sage Mode, even though he still lacked the other eye. So to me the scaling goes: Early EMS Sasuke < Edo Madara < Revived blind Madara < Late EMS Sasuke < Blind SM Madara < Alive EMS Madara < 1 Rinnegan SM Madara.
Edo Madara and Sage Madara can be stronger than EMS Sasuke by some amount and would probably beat him in a fight, but for the purposes of this video all that really matters is that Sasuke stays on a comparable level to Madara. As long as this is the case, he should perform similarly against the Five Kage, if not even better than Madara did since it’s unlikely Sasuke would hold back to such an extent in character.
EMS Sasuke does have the Perfect Susano'o, but it's only the very latest version of him. At the end of the fight with Juubito, Sasuke covered Naruto's Kurama Avatar with the Majestic Attire Susano'o, which clearly is a form of the Perfect Susano'o. It has the same wings, the same samurai armor and the long tengu nose, as well as the swords. However, I think it's not fair to give him that feat before that point, because "why didn't he use it before?". I think Sasuke awakened the Perfect Susano'o at that moment, or towards the end of the fight, when it's stated that him and Naruto were starting to adapt to Juubito's speed.
Madara notes that he had the perfect susano'o in the warring states (at least by the time of the final valley). The anime shows it and although the backstory of Madara using the p.s. wasn't in the manga, the anime still was canon. Also, Madara mentions while showing his perfect susano'o that only Hashi can stop him. After his p.s. deactivates due to the edo's being released, he states that no one has seen it twice and lived (obviously false cause Hashi "killed" him) and lastly, we know that the majestic attire is perfect susano'o armor wrapped around Kurama
The 5 kage shat their pants at the sight of a perfect susano. So simply put, it’s just GG when sasuke pulls perfect susano out on them. (Exactly how it went with madara) This isn’t complicated at all. Ems sasuke negative diffs…
Ya'll be sleeping on EMS Sasuke (WAR ARC) for real. This dude was able to TANK an ALIVE Madara's burning Ash jutsu which blew back The Third Hokage and Sage Mode Naruto who even exclaimed how hot the flames were. Meanwhile, Sasuke just stood there with his arm up and suffered no damage and didn't even use Susanoo. He was able to react to SOSP Obito's attack before Naruto and Minato could, the same Obito who Hashirama said was stronger than him. He was able to combine his attack with KCM Naruto's which is a huge feat according to Tobirama AND he even matched his chakra when they did it again while Naruto was in KCM2. Stop sleeping on my boy, he would DESTROY The Five Kage with difficulty obviously because he's not Madara's level.....yet but Sasuke is still holding out really strong in this fight. Blaze Release would make the entire fight difficult for The Kages to even touch him, on top of that, Sasuke can quite literally react to ALL their attacks because no way is any of The Five Kages shooting out a jutsu that's faster than SOSP Obtio. Susanoo would just be overkill, not to mention he can run around and jump with the Susanoo. Also, Sasuke was able to put Amatarasu around him before Amped up Raikage can hit him and did the same thing again when Sage Kabuto was charging at him.
If Sasuke were to somehow, some way, get caught lacking with particle style…instant GGs. It’s Naruto Verse’s version of Hakai, 5 Kage in this scenario are NOT weak 😂
Sasuke is massively faster,scales higher,has more chakra and people are seriously downplaying him. It's crazy because he could maintain almost always armored susanoo and did crazy shit with amaterasu+kagutsuchi but somehow some haters think that he cannot defeat him 1v1 in low diff. C'mon if you say 1vs5 i could argue that the UNEXPERIENCED nearly awakened EMS I agree. But the final EMS Sasuke who uses the Majestic Attire Susanoo on top of senjutsu amped kurama is insane. He literally oneshot them. That Sasuke is also severely above KCM2 EDO MINATO.
Sasuke does not have more chakra than Tsunade - The uchihas don't have a lot of chakra compared to senju and uzumakis, they have more powerful chakra which is why they have the sharingan.
@@OkairMcLaren remember karin's word. Halfway througu the five kage summit he obtained way more potent and denser chakra than his CM2 state. That was even before he obtained the archer humanoid susanoo and the final armored susanoo which are two massive amps.
Nah. Amaterasu+kagutsuchi hard counters. Especially if we consider kagutsuchi susanoo who only Raikage has the speed to dodge it. So basically Tsunade,Mei and Gaara are deadass fodder. Mentioning Byakugou is inherently pointless. Even adult Sakura cannot heal from it. The only concrete strategies are dodge it,shedding it like the juubi or the orochimaru henge no jutsu or using izanagi like obito did. Ah yes,even shinra tensei or preta path are good strategies.
@@stefanocremonini2656gaara was able to block the susannoo and the Amaterasu with his sand right? The sasuke that showed up to the battlefield to start helping in the fight wouldn’t win but any version after that would
I think something something that deserves to be noted is that the susanoo clones durability scale above the real madaras ribcage, since tsunade was able to crack the ribcage but her strength proved to be not enough against the clones when she slams one down and it doesn’t crack at all
Wasn’t EMS Sasuke able to keep up to Juubito later? Juubito absolutely out speeds the kage and deletes them. Sasuke is faster and has the ability to spam Amaterasu and a Susanoo and just avoid their attacks
Depends on what "version" of EMS Sasuke this is. The one that fights Juubito and is EQUAL to Bijuu Sage Naruto (someone who's near to Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama level), then that Sasuke who DOES have the Perfect Susano'o is winning ZERO difficulty. Madara as an edo with the rinnegan states that him going full power is using the perfect susano'o, not any rinnegan abilities (granted he couldn't use the outer path or limbo since he was an edo) If this is Sage Kabuto fight then it's closer although I think the initial barrier to beat the Gokage war arc is Edo Itachi or Edo Nagato level, characters that are just below that initial KCM2 level. Sasuke even in EMS in lower susano'o forms was more of a match to Mastered KCM Naruto and still was capable of matching Mastered KCM2 Naruto. It's stated EMS Sasuke surpassed Itachi in every way and Itachi could see him as an equal in the Sage Kabuto fight. So version by version: Sage Kabuto version of EMS: high diff EMS Sasuke wins 5.5/10 Enters war version of EMS: mid diff EMS Sasuke wins 7-8/10 Juubito fight version of EMS (Sage susano'o): low diff EMS Sasuke wins 10/10 Juubito fight version of EMS (majestic attire/perfect susano'o): negative diff EMS Sasuke wins 10/10
@@HC-gm4fo Yes, Sasuke with perfect susano'o would win no diff. He had perfect susano'o cause the majestic attire stated to use the perfect susano'o armor
@@HC-gm4fo That is definitely not true. It's a high diff fight if the battle is close in majority of stats and both sides have equal chances of winning. The Gokage forced Madara to use his strongest move being the perfect susano'o against them. But it's clear through dialogue that Madara was pushing the Gokage and testing their limits to see if they were even worthy of being the Gokage but also gauging their strength while testing his new body. Also, the perfect susano'o is something that can be used multiple times, it's not like a "this is the only shot I got strongest move". If that was the case then sure I would agree. But it's not. It isn't like a kirin or even Nagato's version of chibaku tensei or even Indra's arrow. He can use the ability multiple times. So yea, NO DIFFICULTY
You forgot about the five kage ultimate finishing move they tried against Madara with all there jutsu combined, you think he's a way to get out off that? Because i doubt it.
Tsunade punched a clone. Madara has tanked hits stronger than tsunade's punch with minimal damage so it would be really strange if Tsunade was capable of tearing through the real body.. which that wasnt
Prior to watching: Babymode EMS - Loses EMS - Full body - Loses high diff EMS - Perfect Susanoo ( which he should have canonically) - Slams them High-diff Rinnegan - Chibakus them all low diff
The only reason Madara crushed the Kage so easily was because he had Rinnegan, absorbed ninjutsu, had Mokuton, was immortal and had unlimited chakra, without that he wouldn't have won this fight. Sasuke is unable to beat the five Kages before unlocking Rinegan.
He would, you are just assuming EMS Madara would approach the fight the same way Edo Madara would. All EMS Madara has to do is just Blitz them and one tap with Susanoo.
Bruh forgot 😂 when Madara pulled out the Perfect Susanoo the 5 Kage shat their pants and waved the white flag 🏳️.. Even They realize at that moment they stood 0% chance against Madara..
@@darth_uchiha8853 he only got the perfect susanoo only after meeting hagoromo and awakening rinnegan 🤦🏻 the only thing ems gave him was a pair of legs to his incomplete susanoo
I love Sasuke but 5v1 is too much for EMS Sasuke… Unless Sasuke Goes all-out AND is merciless Odds are heavily favored towards the 5 kage… But 1v1 or Gauntlet style EMS Sasuke Steamrolls
Sasuke dies, he doesn't have the rinnegan to deal with the combo attacks from the Kage. Edo Madara having the rinnegan (even tho he was holding back and practically Immortal) helped him deal with their combo jutsu. Tsunade would punch his Susanoo into pieces. Ohnoki amped the Raikage speed and Gaara sand because he lightened it. The Raikage is already shown to outspeed amaterasu. Mei can combo well with all of the other Kage. 100 Healings would be the end of the fight for Sasuke. I doubt Sasuke is smarter than the 5 Kage in any sense. They have much more experience in battle and wisdom.
Your admission that Madara was holding back basically invalidates your attempt to scale the Kage to Madara. It’s heavily supported that Sasuke’s ocular abilities were improved in every aspect, you’d have no way of demonstrating that Ay is still fast enough to dodge the Amaterasu. Even if this isn’t the case, Sasuke is still faster than Ay due ti better speed scaling. Amaterasu hard counters Tsunade’s Creation Rebirth.
EMS Sasuke during and after the Kabuto fight is relative to Itachi, who’s around a KCM 1.5 Naruto level, but then he goes on to being relative to KCM2, and then fighting on par with Bijuu Sage Mode Peak EMS Sasuke clears the 5 Kage, and probably the Akatsuki👀
@@koreyclark5677 When it comes to PEAK EMS-Sasuke, he is not losing to Itachi. EMS Sasuke is actually states to surpass Itachi in strength, tho Itachi is shown out-performing him through skill and battle knowledge during the Kabuto fight. EMS Sasuke then goes to fight on par with Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto. BSM Naruto is around Edo Hashirama level, who is above Edo Madara, who is indefinitely above Itachi. EMS Sasuke is even perceiving Juubito and reading his movements… And then after the Juubito fight, he tags BLIND SAGE MADARA with his sword. Either way you put it, EMS Sasuke scales above each member of the Akatsuki individually. And when I say solo, I mean he’s running the gauntlet, not that he’s beating them as a group. Though, you could make an argument for EMS Sasuke beating the Akatsuki all at once, you can even make an argument for him being on the same level as Edo Madara at the end of the Juubito fight. But he does solo the 5-Kage, like they just get bullied.
What’s Trump say … wrong ! 1 gara sealing ability 2 rykage speed 3 anoki instant death 4 tsunade instant regeneration 5 stacked mommy hot rocks and gas (distraction possibly ripped top) But still what chance does little itachi wanna be have?
Sasuke gets blitzed and oneshot, the Kage without Naruto defeated Kinshiki. Sasuke was practically fodder against Kaguya until it was time to seal her.
@@GeneFOX70 The 5 kage had Adult Sasuke backing them up against Kinshiki otherwise they get washed by Kin😂 They also get fodderized by Teen Rineggan Sasuke 1 genjutsu glance and it’s GG neg Diff
Yall are annoying! lol what do you mean that tsunade ohnoki and mei don’t have the speed to contend with sasuke movement and reaction speed are very different things and we’re not taking into account the range of jutsu that they can use! I doubt you’d ever see this but I would really love to have a conversation with you all about this topic. Forreal. I hope you look me up. Comedian and anime podcaster and I highly disagree with sasuke pre his later war upgrade taking the 5 Kage. Would love to discuss! Dope work as always
I don't think there really needs to be a debate about why someone like freaking tsunade or mei aren't comparable speedwise to ems sasuke who kept up with kcm 2 naruto while fighting juubito and even reacted to him with no troubles
@2_loko 1. The Raikage is fast enough to keep up with him, and dodge Amaterasu. 2. Gaara's sand is fast enough to protect himself and everyone else from Amaterasu. 3. Though trivial, Tsunade was able to punch away Madara's fire style jutsu in the anime by cloaking her arms with chakra. Maybe she could do that if Sasuke launches an Amaterasu at her. 4. Ohnoki's ability to fly, and use particle style however he wishes would always pose a problem for Sasuke. Even in his Susanoo. 5. Sasuke is not going to awaken the perfect Susanoo. There was no reason for him to do that (like training or hatred amp) other than plot. 6. Sasuke doesn't have the arsenal, or the huge power gap that Madara did to slack off or consistently let his guard down with the five Kage. 7. Sasuke's susanoo can be broken.
@@i.q.1979 Not sure if this is referring to Early War or Late War EMS Sasuke, but alright: 1. You’d never be able to demonstrate that Ay is relative in speed to any version of EMS Sasuke, at least without Onoki’s amp (which is unquantifiable and would not definitively make Ay faster than Sasuke). 2. Can you prove Ay and Gaara still have the speed to block/dodge Amaterasu? It’s heavily supported that Sasuke’s ocular abilities increased in every aspect after obtaining EMS, so scaling from the Kage Summit wouldn’t apply. 3. Unprovable possibility. 4. Sasuke’s long-ranged attacks make Onoki less of a threat, especially if he’s flying around enough to where Gaara can’t protect him with his sand. 5. What you said doesn’t decrease the likelihood of EMS Sasuke having the Perfect Susanoo. 6. Why does Sasuke require a “huge arsenal” when I’ve demonstrated that the abilities he does have are more than enough? Also, if we’re talking about Late War EMS Sasuke, I’ve already demonstrated his relativity to Edo Madara, so he would have the “power gap” between him and the Kage as well. 7. Sure, the Skeletal version isn’t all that impressive. However, the Armored and the Full Body versions have no antifeats in the entire series. You’d never be able to demonstrate anything outside of Particle Release could pose a threat to it. For obvious reasons, arguing the Kage could survive Sasuke’s Perfect Susanoo is out of the question.
They might be able to take him early in the fight but the longer it goes the more tge kages are dropping and the weaker they're getting. If Tsunade and mei takes a hit from amaterasu at rhe start of the fight they're already in big trouble. And i think the kages are going to be taking casualties early so sasuke wins
@@SoullessFN No need to give him the desert advantage.... His sands can block V2 Rikage in mid fight which makes he can counter Itachi's every attack and Gaara can fly which makes him untouchable by itachi and gaara can make sand without sand (mixing his sand and grinding rocks) and have sealing ability and put Itachi under sand like 200 meters... Any counter arguments?
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EMS Sasuke vs Edo Itachi..??
Sasuke wins, Itachi cant stand against Perfect Susano
EMS Sasuke>>>
Sasuke wins if he has a way to seal Itachi.
@@elhood4060 Amaterasu sword...
Itachi wins.
The raikage is not blitzing this version of sasuke
Yes he is! Especially with the lightened boulder jutsu enhanced raikage y’all wilding
Just hit play, but I love that the Poll was pretty close on who'd win, yet we all agreed it would be a HARD fight lmao
Definitely a tough fight!
Regarding Loko's comparison of late EMS Sasuke and Madara, we have to remember that Madara also gets stronger during that fight. First he revives himself, and he is stronger because the Edo Tensei nerf is wearing off, but on the other hand he lost the fake Rinnegan he had. Then he absorbs Hashirama's Sage Mode, that's when he has his skirmish with Sasuke. Whether or not he let himself get stabbed, he does acknowledge Sasuke's strength and visual prowess but he still speaks to him nonchalantly, asking if he wants to become his subordinate, and then talking about taking Sasuke's eyes for the meantime after he refuses. Madara isn't concerned about Sasuke at all. So I do think he is above him, but maybe not by much.
Another important statement happens after that, when he escapes staggering Sasuke and knocking down SM Naruto, and goes for the Biju. That's when Hashirama says he "is regaining his former strength", so blind SM Madara is still somewhat below his EMS version of the Valley of the End. This is consistent with Sasuke (during the Juubito fight) being said to have the potential to surpass Madara. In order to surpass someone, you need to still be below their level.
Then Madara gets one of his Rinnegan back, and with that comes another amp. Then it makes sense that this Madara no diffed Sasuke. He used the Limbo clone to immobilize him, but I reckon he would still be able to beat him without it. But Sasuke came for a surprise attack in the middle of his philosophical monologue to Tobirama. He immobilized Sasuke and stabbed him with his own sword in order to echo Hashirama's words and prove that, in order to achieve peace, he would be willing to kill a friend, a brother, even one of his children (that being Sasuke, as one of his descendants). Besides, he had been previously interrupted by Tobirama himself, and he wanted to be done with it and become the Jinchuriki of the Juubi. Also, I think it's fair to scale this Madara above the EMS one because of the amp from the Rinnegan + Sage Mode, even though he still lacked the other eye.
So to me the scaling goes: Early EMS Sasuke < Edo Madara < Revived blind Madara < Late EMS Sasuke < Blind SM Madara < Alive EMS Madara < 1 Rinnegan SM Madara.
Edo Madara and Sage Madara can be stronger than EMS Sasuke by some amount and would probably beat him in a fight, but for the purposes of this video all that really matters is that Sasuke stays on a comparable level to Madara. As long as this is the case, he should perform similarly against the Five Kage, if not even better than Madara did since it’s unlikely Sasuke would hold back to such an extent in character.
EMS Sasuke does have the Perfect Susano'o, but it's only the very latest version of him. At the end of the fight with Juubito, Sasuke covered Naruto's Kurama Avatar with the Majestic Attire Susano'o, which clearly is a form of the Perfect Susano'o. It has the same wings, the same samurai armor and the long tengu nose, as well as the swords. However, I think it's not fair to give him that feat before that point, because "why didn't he use it before?". I think Sasuke awakened the Perfect Susano'o at that moment, or towards the end of the fight, when it's stated that him and Naruto were starting to adapt to Juubito's speed.
Yep, I agree
loko genuinely can’t scale to save him life
Has seen a Sasuke focused video in awhile lol nice 💪🏻💪🏻
You know it
Dude has literally done like 2 40min+ videos talking about Sasuke, he did one like a week ago lol. Check it out BTW, good stuff.
Madara notes that he had the perfect susano'o in the warring states (at least by the time of the final valley). The anime shows it and although the backstory of Madara using the p.s. wasn't in the manga, the anime still was canon.
Also, Madara mentions while showing his perfect susano'o that only Hashi can stop him. After his p.s. deactivates due to the edo's being released, he states that no one has seen it twice and lived (obviously false cause Hashi "killed" him) and lastly, we know that the majestic attire is perfect susano'o armor wrapped around Kurama
The poor kage what did they do
😂😂
They’re getting victimized :/
The 5 kage shat their pants at the sight of a perfect susano. So simply put, it’s just GG when sasuke pulls perfect susano out on them. (Exactly how it went with madara) This isn’t complicated at all. Ems sasuke negative diffs…
Ya'll be sleeping on EMS Sasuke (WAR ARC) for real. This dude was able to TANK an ALIVE Madara's burning Ash jutsu which blew back The Third Hokage and Sage Mode Naruto who even exclaimed how hot the flames were. Meanwhile, Sasuke just stood there with his arm up and suffered no damage and didn't even use Susanoo. He was able to react to SOSP Obito's attack before Naruto and Minato could, the same Obito who Hashirama said was stronger than him. He was able to combine his attack with KCM Naruto's which is a huge feat according to Tobirama AND he even matched his chakra when they did it again while Naruto was in KCM2. Stop sleeping on my boy, he would DESTROY The Five Kage with difficulty obviously because he's not Madara's level.....yet but Sasuke is still holding out really strong in this fight. Blaze Release would make the entire fight difficult for The Kages to even touch him, on top of that, Sasuke can quite literally react to ALL their attacks because no way is any of The Five Kages shooting out a jutsu that's faster than SOSP Obtio. Susanoo would just be overkill, not to mention he can run around and jump with the Susanoo. Also, Sasuke was able to put Amatarasu around him before Amped up Raikage can hit him and did the same thing again when Sage Kabuto was charging at him.
Soon as I saw my guy Loko was on here I knew where this was going… he probably has Hebi Sasuke beating the 5 Kage 😂
Hey now 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Bruh probably have Hebi Sasuke over Ems Sasuke
Loko is a Sasuke meat rider and doesn't know how to scale to even save his life and his hebi Sasuke vs everyone shit he does is literal trash lol.
Smh somebody always gotta go too far
If Sasuke were to somehow, some way, get caught lacking with particle style…instant GGs. It’s Naruto Verse’s version of Hakai, 5 Kage in this scenario are NOT weak 😂
💯💯
Sasuke is massively faster,scales higher,has more chakra and people are seriously downplaying him.
It's crazy because he could maintain almost always armored susanoo and did crazy shit with amaterasu+kagutsuchi but somehow some haters think that he cannot defeat him 1v1 in low diff.
C'mon if you say 1vs5 i could argue that the UNEXPERIENCED nearly awakened EMS I agree.
But the final EMS Sasuke who uses the Majestic Attire Susanoo on top of senjutsu amped kurama is insane.
He literally oneshot them.
That Sasuke is also severely above KCM2 EDO MINATO.
Sasuke does not have more chakra than Tsunade - The uchihas don't have a lot of chakra compared to senju and uzumakis, they have more powerful chakra which is why they have the sharingan.
@@OkairMcLaren senju have more chakra not uzumaki in general 😂
@@OkairMcLaren remember karin's word.
Halfway througu the five kage summit he obtained way more potent and denser chakra than his CM2 state.
That was even before he obtained the archer humanoid susanoo and the final armored susanoo which are two massive amps.
W comment
Haven’t watched this yet but tsunade, onoki, and Gaara give him a major problem
Their teamwork is indeed crazy
Nah.
Amaterasu+kagutsuchi hard counters.
Especially if we consider kagutsuchi susanoo who only Raikage has the speed to dodge it.
So basically Tsunade,Mei and Gaara are deadass fodder.
Mentioning Byakugou is inherently pointless.
Even adult Sakura cannot heal from it.
The only concrete strategies are dodge it,shedding it like the juubi or the orochimaru henge no jutsu or using izanagi like obito did.
Ah yes,even shinra tensei or preta path are good strategies.
@@stefanocremonini2656gaara was able to block the susannoo and the Amaterasu with his sand right? The sasuke that showed up to the battlefield to start helping in the fight wouldn’t win but any version after that would
I think something something that deserves to be noted is that the susanoo clones durability scale above the real madaras ribcage, since tsunade was able to crack the ribcage but her strength proved to be not enough against the clones when she slams one down and it doesn’t crack at all
The full Susanoo form is more durabley the ribcage form.
@@justinarzola4584 yeah I agree but a lot of people say the clones are weaker because they are clones, which isn't completely
true
Wasn’t EMS Sasuke able to keep up to Juubito later? Juubito absolutely out speeds the kage and deletes them. Sasuke is faster and has the ability to spam Amaterasu and a Susanoo and just avoid their attacks
War arc sasuke vs 5 kage it’s no debate and this is without six paths power
People really sleep on itachis speed
Indeed
@@TheLightningBlade So basically I have speed scaling for Itachi.
Itachi >> Sage mode Kabuto > EMS Sasuke ~ MKCM Naruto
@@TheLightningBlade itachi perception blitz kabuto
@@Pinpin4kt only think I’ll say is that Kabuto also blitz Itachi. So it could imply they’re on relative terms of speed
@@TheLightningBlade do you have an discord or sum I would like to take a look at that scan
Depends on what "version" of EMS Sasuke this is. The one that fights Juubito and is EQUAL to Bijuu Sage Naruto (someone who's near to Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama level), then that Sasuke who DOES have the Perfect Susano'o is winning ZERO difficulty. Madara as an edo with the rinnegan states that him going full power is using the perfect susano'o, not any rinnegan abilities (granted he couldn't use the outer path or limbo since he was an edo)
If this is Sage Kabuto fight then it's closer although I think the initial barrier to beat the Gokage war arc is Edo Itachi or Edo Nagato level, characters that are just below that initial KCM2 level. Sasuke even in EMS in lower susano'o forms was more of a match to Mastered KCM Naruto and still was capable of matching Mastered KCM2 Naruto.
It's stated EMS Sasuke surpassed Itachi in every way and Itachi could see him as an equal in the Sage Kabuto fight. So version by version:
Sage Kabuto version of EMS: high diff EMS Sasuke wins 5.5/10
Enters war version of EMS: mid diff EMS Sasuke wins 7-8/10
Juubito fight version of EMS (Sage susano'o): low diff EMS Sasuke wins 10/10
Juubito fight version of EMS (majestic attire/perfect susano'o): negative diff EMS Sasuke wins 10/10
There is no war arc Sasuke that wins zero diff beside six path
@@HC-gm4fo Yes, Sasuke with perfect susano'o would win no diff. He had perfect susano'o cause the majestic attire stated to use the perfect susano'o armor
@@emssasukeisunderrated7946 If it takes your strongest move to win it’s a high diff fight
@@HC-gm4fo That is definitely not true. It's a high diff fight if the battle is close in majority of stats and both sides have equal chances of winning.
The Gokage forced Madara to use his strongest move being the perfect susano'o against them. But it's clear through dialogue that Madara was pushing the Gokage and testing their limits to see if they were even worthy of being the Gokage but also gauging their strength while testing his new body.
Also, the perfect susano'o is something that can be used multiple times, it's not like a "this is the only shot I got strongest move". If that was the case then sure I would agree. But it's not. It isn't like a kirin or even Nagato's version of chibaku tensei or even Indra's arrow. He can use the ability multiple times.
So yea, NO DIFFICULTY
@@emssasukeisunderrated7946 except you don’t know how many times you can use it at all.
We already saw how sasuke vs raikage would go and the poor guy lost an arm, what if sasuke summoned a 100 flaming shinra tensei’s like Madara did 💀
"EMS Sasuke" pay attention the version your referring to is rinnigan six paths sasuke
@@Potato_Sama even ems ssasuke raikage is getting clapped, only problem on the team is onoki
Great video!
Thanks bro!
I think it will be difficult but the 5 kage do win. Now late war arc sasuke is probably even stronger but early war arc i do honestly believe they win
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W video
Appreciate it boss 💪🏻
You forgot about the five kage ultimate finishing move they tried against Madara with all there jutsu combined, you think he's a way to get out off that? Because i doubt it.
Complete susano
Tsunade punched a clone. Madara has tanked hits stronger than tsunade's punch with minimal damage so it would be really strange if Tsunade was capable of tearing through the real body.. which that wasnt
Tsunade literally punched the real madara and he was spamming substitution jutsu as soon as his edo body regen'd to escape being sealed
@OkairMcLaren not at all bruh. They punched and sealed a clone.
@@OldFolkzif you're talking about garas pyramid,that was the real Madara.
@jmb47kkamikaze80 it wasn't. It was a wood clone
It wasn’t a wood clone lol
Ummmm… sasuke has no way of halting particle style
Prior to watching:
Babymode EMS - Loses
EMS - Full body - Loses high diff
EMS - Perfect Susanoo ( which he should have canonically) - Slams them High-diff
Rinnegan - Chibakus them all low diff
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Do a Naruto style video like this with him vs the 5 Kage.
The only reason Madara crushed the Kage so easily was because he had Rinnegan, absorbed ninjutsu, had Mokuton, was immortal and had unlimited chakra, without that he wouldn't have won this fight. Sasuke is unable to beat the five Kages before unlocking Rinegan.
He would, you are just assuming EMS Madara would approach the fight the same way Edo Madara would. All EMS Madara has to do is just Blitz them and one tap with Susanoo.
Bruh forgot 😂 when Madara pulled out the Perfect Susanoo the 5 Kage shat their pants and waved the white flag 🏳️.. Even They realize at that moment they stood 0% chance against Madara..
I somehow see tsunade surviving because of using a chakra shield like Naruto to avoid being hurt by amaterasu
Ems gave him perfect sussanno
When??
No it didn't
@@Life_is_miraculus yes it did an you telling me it didn’t means what ?
@@REALETH3REAL when he made the majestic attire sussaono an who told you it didn’t ? Since you know so much b
@@darth_uchiha8853 he only got the perfect susanoo only after meeting hagoromo and awakening rinnegan 🤦🏻 the only thing ems gave him was a pair of legs to his incomplete susanoo
Typical L loko in the video but W lightning
Good video 💥💥💥💥.
Appreciate it boss 💪🏻💪🏻
Nice vid
Thanks bro!
Sasuke can one hit all of them if they aren’t careful his move set with ems are one shots
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Early ems (kabuto fight) and edo itachi both loose against 5 kage
I love Sasuke but 5v1 is too much for EMS Sasuke… Unless Sasuke Goes all-out AND is merciless Odds are heavily favored towards the 5 kage… But 1v1 or Gauntlet style EMS Sasuke Steamrolls
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What makes you think that?
i love sasuke but not because madara was able to go toe to toe with he kage doesnt mean sasuke can
Sasuke dies, he doesn't have the rinnegan to deal with the combo attacks from the Kage. Edo Madara having the rinnegan (even tho he was holding back and practically Immortal) helped him deal with their combo jutsu. Tsunade would punch his Susanoo into pieces. Ohnoki amped the Raikage speed and Gaara sand because he lightened it. The Raikage is already shown to outspeed amaterasu. Mei can combo well with all of the other Kage. 100 Healings would be the end of the fight for Sasuke. I doubt Sasuke is smarter than the 5 Kage in any sense. They have much more experience in battle and wisdom.
It’s a crazy fight for sure 💪🏻
Your admission that Madara was holding back basically invalidates your attempt to scale the Kage to Madara.
It’s heavily supported that Sasuke’s ocular abilities were improved in every aspect, you’d have no way of demonstrating that Ay is still fast enough to dodge the Amaterasu. Even if this isn’t the case, Sasuke is still faster than Ay due ti better speed scaling.
Amaterasu hard counters Tsunade’s Creation Rebirth.
@@2_loko I wasn't scaling the Kage to Madara, I was saying that Edo Madara had the rinnegan where Sasuke did not.
Before watching this: the 5 Kage here especially with tsunade CLEAN sasuke with upwards of mid-high difficulty.
EMS Sasuke during and after the Kabuto fight is relative to Itachi, who’s around a KCM 1.5 Naruto level, but then he goes on to being relative to KCM2, and then fighting on par with Bijuu Sage Mode
Peak EMS Sasuke clears the 5 Kage, and probably the Akatsuki👀
How bout after the video? WE NEED A EDIT
@@trell_aems isn’t taking the whole akatsuki lol he debatably loses to itachi solo 😅
@@koreyclark5677 When it comes to PEAK EMS-Sasuke, he is not losing to Itachi. EMS Sasuke is actually states to surpass Itachi in strength, tho Itachi is shown out-performing him through skill and battle knowledge during the Kabuto fight.
EMS Sasuke then goes to fight on par with Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto.
BSM Naruto is around Edo Hashirama level, who is above Edo Madara, who is indefinitely above Itachi. EMS Sasuke is even perceiving Juubito and reading his movements… And then after the Juubito fight, he tags BLIND SAGE MADARA with his sword. Either way you put it, EMS Sasuke scales above each member of the Akatsuki individually.
And when I say solo, I mean he’s running the gauntlet, not that he’s beating them as a group. Though, you could make an argument for EMS Sasuke beating the Akatsuki all at once, you can even make an argument for him being on the same level as Edo Madara at the end of the Juubito fight.
But he does solo the 5-Kage, like they just get bullied.
LightningSnow Is 🥷Hokage Kakashi🥷 really stronger than Madara and Obito? please reply❤
What’s Trump say … wrong !
1 gara sealing ability
2 rykage speed
3 anoki instant death
4 tsunade instant regeneration
5 stacked mommy hot rocks and gas (distraction possibly ripped top)
But still what chance does little itachi wanna be have?
Good video tho, just took way to long to be wrong
Appreciate it man! It’s up to opinion i suppose 🤷🏻♂️ in any case thanks for watching!
@@NotAnotherTH-camr-_- Itachi is the goat. You aren’t so shh! 🤫
I think it was filler but didn’t itachi kill yagura with amaterasu?
I don’t think so because I because Obito controls Yagura after this at some point I believe
Fighting all 4 of the 5 Kage at the same it will be very hard for Sasuke...
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@@darkest_thief Mei doesn't count!
@@vrj8791 she’s literally a kage by name so
Teen rinnegan Sasuke vs the Boruto kage? (possibly excluding Naruto)
Not a bad idea 🤔
Sasuke gets blitzed and oneshot, the Kage without Naruto defeated Kinshiki. Sasuke was practically fodder against Kaguya until it was time to seal her.
@@GeneFOX70 The 5 kage had Adult Sasuke backing them up against Kinshiki otherwise they get washed by Kin😂 They also get fodderized by Teen Rineggan Sasuke 1 genjutsu glance and it’s GG neg Diff
You can’t compared God madara to sasuke. Lol 😂 sasuke sharingan is limited compare to madara
lightning tf you mean lol sasuke did not have full body in the fks lol that’s something he unlocked during the war
I said full extent he could man.. pls pay attention 😂
Sasuke strong but he getting jump onb
Yall are annoying! lol what do you mean that tsunade ohnoki and mei don’t have the speed to contend with sasuke movement and reaction speed are very different things and we’re not taking into account the range of jutsu that they can use! I doubt you’d ever see this but I would really love to have a conversation with you all about this topic. Forreal. I hope you look me up. Comedian and anime podcaster and I highly disagree with sasuke pre his later war upgrade taking the 5 Kage. Would love to discuss! Dope work as always
Appreciate it bro 😎
I don't think there really needs to be a debate about why someone like freaking tsunade or mei aren't comparable speedwise to ems sasuke who kept up with kcm 2 naruto while fighting juubito and even reacted to him with no troubles
Garaa solos
Oof 😅
I can see that, actually.
@@TheLightningBlade I can see that, actually.
Prove that?
@@2_loko garaa us a perfect counter
Sasuke dies but takes out Mei (and maybe Tsunade) as well.
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@@TheLightningBlade 😅😅😅😅😅 Are you free to talk about it?
@@i.q.1979What makes you think that Sasuke would lose?
@2_loko 1. The Raikage is fast enough to keep up with him, and dodge Amaterasu.
2. Gaara's sand is fast enough to protect himself and everyone else from Amaterasu.
3. Though trivial, Tsunade was able to punch away Madara's fire style jutsu in the anime by cloaking her arms with chakra. Maybe she could do that if Sasuke launches an Amaterasu at her.
4. Ohnoki's ability to fly, and use particle style however he wishes would always pose a problem for Sasuke. Even in his Susanoo.
5. Sasuke is not going to awaken the perfect Susanoo. There was no reason for him to do that (like training or hatred amp) other than plot.
6. Sasuke doesn't have the arsenal, or the huge power gap that Madara did to slack off or consistently let his guard down with the five Kage.
7. Sasuke's susanoo can be broken.
@@i.q.1979 Not sure if this is referring to Early War or Late War EMS Sasuke, but alright:
1. You’d never be able to demonstrate that Ay is relative in speed to any version of EMS Sasuke, at least without Onoki’s amp (which is unquantifiable and would not definitively make Ay faster than Sasuke).
2. Can you prove Ay and Gaara still have the speed to block/dodge Amaterasu? It’s heavily supported that Sasuke’s ocular abilities increased in every aspect after obtaining EMS, so scaling from the Kage Summit wouldn’t apply.
3. Unprovable possibility.
4. Sasuke’s long-ranged attacks make Onoki less of a threat, especially if he’s flying around enough to where Gaara can’t protect him with his sand.
5. What you said doesn’t decrease the likelihood of EMS Sasuke having the Perfect Susanoo.
6. Why does Sasuke require a “huge arsenal” when I’ve demonstrated that the abilities he does have are more than enough? Also, if we’re talking about Late War EMS Sasuke, I’ve already demonstrated his relativity to Edo Madara, so he would have the “power gap” between him and the Kage as well.
7. Sure, the Skeletal version isn’t all that impressive. However, the Armored and the Full Body versions have no antifeats in the entire series. You’d never be able to demonstrate anything outside of Particle Release could pose a threat to it. For obvious reasons, arguing the Kage could survive Sasuke’s Perfect Susanoo is out of the question.
Hear me out hidari vs the 5 kages since sasuke is seal up
Hmmm not a bad idea
@@TheLightningBlade after he gets his sharigan upgrade .
Are you smoking something because hidari literally fold all hokage in one
@@harshit1966 you acting like it wouldnt be a good match
They might be able to take him early in the fight but the longer it goes the more tge kages are dropping and the weaker they're getting.
If Tsunade and mei takes a hit from amaterasu at rhe start of the fight they're already in big trouble. And i think the kages are going to be taking casualties early so sasuke wins
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bruh the kage downplay is honestly ridiculous... this video is garbage
Appreciate it bro 😎💪🏻
Sasuke is my favorite character but 5 kage would beat sasuke.
Ohnoki is the only real problem
Definitely broken!
@@TheLightningBladegaraa solos tho
The video is null when you compared madara to sasuke lol
sasuke kinda gets washed lol
No.. no don’t say so 🥺🥺
I don’t think so sasuke knows his way around fights. Them included with everything he got stacked with in ems
Itachi could barely win because he’s intelligent. Sasuke can’t touch them I’m sorry.
War ark sasuke is taking them all out. Especially if we talking about rinnegan sasuke. They can put up a fight but won’t win!
Edo itachi clears? Can he beat War arc Gaara? 😂 that's the real debate..
People overestimate war arc gaara
@@SoullessFN He have feats though... Enough to Counter and negg Itachi's attacks...
@@Pain-106 lmaoooo no he doesn’t. That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard and also what your gonna grant him being in the desert surrounded by sand 🫵😆
@@SoullessFN No need to give him the desert advantage....
His sands can block V2 Rikage in mid fight which makes he can counter Itachi's every attack and Gaara can fly which makes him untouchable by itachi and gaara can make sand without sand (mixing his sand and grinding rocks) and have sealing ability and put Itachi under sand like 200 meters... Any counter arguments?
*Onoki blitzes EMS Sasuke BADLY. Thats that!*
EMS sasuke is relative to KCM2 naruto, unless you think KCM 2 naruto is much weaker than Onoki, sasuke should clear
That’s pure cap… even fks sasuke blitz onoki lol he was relative to v2 raikage 😅
Sasuke dies easily 😂
Hot take edo itachi wins because of infinite stamina and regen.