Kakashi & Obito vs Minato & Tobirama is CRAZY..?
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Who’s Your Favorite and Why? Minato or Kakashi??
Definitely Kakashi!
@@johnmilo7629 💪🏻
Tobirama
Kakashi
Tobirama, the genius!!
They might have a better chance if Kakashi just gave his eye back to obito
Honestly 😂
Izanagi wins
As impressive as Kakashi is now… I feel like Minato and Tobirama would overwhelm them..
If they Used Hokage Kakashi I’d take him and Obito
@Edjuyl Hokage Kakashi is sixth paths tier without the sharingan
@@J-gritty yup
th-cam.com/video/slaEMXrr-2g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T0d_0fZIYLwRPU_e this explains his power since the 4th ninja war
He never impress me
Tobirama is one of the most shafted characters in Naruto when it comes to vs battles, he'd definitely not get caught easy, he was a specialist when it came to fighting against sharingan and his knowledge in jutsu is insane, Minato and Tobirama win for sure
2 words: Double Kamui
3 words: Flying Thunder God
@@donovan42224 words: Double Kamui GG
He won't have hashirama cells so there will be a limit with his dms
@@mc_rysiek5277 lol wtf is a “double Kamui” anyways?
Obito owns kamui. Kakashi is helpless lol
Obito Phasing won't be compromised if any of them get Kamui. The dimension is infinite. The only problem is that both Kamui eye teleport to the same spot in the dimensions. But if Obito teleports them himself, they should be far from his phasing spot.
Obito can also store fire jutsu in Kamui. That means the jutsu must have be Frozen in the dimension somehow. Unless you have Kamui. You definitely won't be able to move in the dimension.
Funny thing is that Kakashi knows most of Tobiramas suiton jutsus and raiton is enough to take him on.
yeah but kakaschi did them with water around
Can we get 1000 LIKESSSSSSSSS
@@DygoKnight we definitely can 💪🏻
Kakashi was able to tag 10 tails Madara with Kamui before Night Guy keep in mind this is the same Night Guy that was running circles around 10 Tails Madara I think it’s fair to say Kakashi can even Tag the Yellow Flash in KCM
Minato is capable Of Teleporting to both of them he tagged them both with marks when they joined Team Minato so it’s in his favor unless they are aware and smart enough to bait him to use them.
So we assume that Kakashi and Obito will just let Minato brief Tobirama on Kamui? Also, why would using Alive Minato and Tobirama be "redundant"? You're giving Minato and Tobirama effective immortality, uber-fast chakra regeneration bordering on infinite chakra supply, *and* KCM for Minato. It seems... very cherry-picky.
Minato has barely beaten kid Obito, and even that was because of Obito holding back/being cocky (take your pick) *and* having incomplete knowledge on FTG. Now you're putting Minato against Obito with an additional 17 years of experience *and* the Rinnegan amp?
Kakashi has used Kamui offensively against Deidara, was about to use it against Kakuzu before Naruto and co arrived, and intended to use it on "Madara" straight away during the Kage Summit arc. And other than full-body Kamui, he has no way of permanently dealing with an Edo.
We've seen Kakashi matching KCM Minato's movement speed. We've seen *Sharinganless* Kakashi out speeding Byakugo Sakura, who has reacted to one of Kaguya's chakra arms (the one Six Paths Naruto considered "super fast"). The idea of Kakashi being "way slower" than Minato and Tobirama is objectively wrong.
For the millionth time, KAMUI IGNORES TRANSPARENT OBSTACLES. We've seen Kakashi using Kamui on Gyuki while being inside Kurama's avatar. Kamui didn't make a hole in the avatar, it sucked Gyuki in. As long as Kakashi can see Minato inside the avatar, he can snipe him. Also, a reminder that Kakashi's Kamui has already blitzed KCM Minato's perception when he tried to warp Gedo Mazo, and now he has Obito to double the speed of Kamui and/or run interference.
Lol, what? Jinnchuriki distract Minato and Tobirama, allowing Kakashi and Obito to blindside them. The end. This is ridiculous.
Kakashi has clones too, you know. And as far feats go, he's by far the best feinter here.
No, you're not giving Kakashi and Obito the "benefit of the doubt". You're giving it to Minato and Tobirama. In fact, this video could be summarized as "Minato solos... somehow".
Yeah, there's no contest here. Kamui bros ftw.
Agreed.
I agree with most of your points, lots of people are so biased its just dumb, also even when they are edo they cant spam ftg it seems to be a really costing jutsu meanwhile obito can spam his kamui like its nothing minato and tobirama chances to win is very low. obito could probably beat them both alone.
You guys should do Obito and Madara vs Minato and Hashirama. Could be more interesting than an initial glance. Also why were the other Rinnegan abilities just ignored for Obito? The chakra rods could disrupt/immobilize Edo tensei like what happened to Tobirama and Hashirama.
nothing beats hashirama, hashirama wasnt even full out on madara the times they fought, probably only using 80-90% of his power, which still is alot, considering no one else could even force him to use 10% of his strength in the series
This is already an off analysis. Boruto has confirmed in the recent chapters that flying raijin works across dimensions so Minato and Tobirama as whole bodies can escape the Kamui dimension
In Boruto database it states "With the help of Koji Kashin, Boruto develops his own variant of the technique, which could technically be considered an entirely separate jutsu. Compared to Minato Namikaze's Flying Raijin Jutsu, it has more limitations". Minato and Tobirama couldn't get to Kaguya's dimension and were about to reanimate Madara in order to figure out what happened at all. It was only Hagoromo who was capable of bringing them back and it's important to note that they both had seals on them already. Boruto's jutsu works differently so they're not getting out of kamui
@@metroplextitan8816 yeah I did the same Google search you did found the same thing … except I kept reading like good anime nerd and read the explanation. It’s different bc boruto uses physical objects (pins, swords, etc) as marks instead of seals. It has the same name bc it’s the same jutsu with a different process. Also, that was an AI generated answer that used non canon, fan-made information … not very reliable
@@willjones548 wdym it's unreliable when it's on Naruto official site. Also Boruto uses the seals the same way, his sword is marked just as Minato's kunais or Tobirama's are and toads are carrying objects on which we see the seals. I don't know where you got the idea he doesn't use seals when that's literaly how the jutsu operates also we saw Boruto teleporting to the tree where Sasuke is. There's no difference between teleporting to a kunai or a metal square and we've seen that Minato's and Tobirama's seal are different in terms of looks so that argument doesn't work either
@@metroplextitan8816 thanks for re-explaining the Justus while misdoing my point. Not my job to help you understand the story so I guess have fun and do you bro 😂😂😂
Boruto isn’t canon
You do know Kamui's transfer speed can be adjusted to instantaneous, right? Obito doesn't need Kakashi to instantly teleport others' away and vice-versa. Remember what Konan said, it takes Obito longer to pull himself in, then another person or object, which is why Kakashi and Obito both performed Kamui at the same time to double the transfer speed for Obito.
They can instantly warp others away, just not themselves, It takes a bit longer.
We know. We said something else in regards to Obito affecting Kakashi’s speed from his end later in the video
Yah but kamui is useless against flying rijin users because they can just teleport back
@@Mochaherrera909not in the Kamui Dimension
@@Edjuylspace-time ninjutsu users and users of teleporting techniques can escape the Kamui dimension search it up buddy
@@Mochaherrera909 kamui is stated to be a seal dimension the only way in or out is kamui, being able to teleport to other dimenions doesn't help once you're in kamui
ok but whats stopping kakashi giving Obito his eye back and swapping it for the Rinnegan. i mean he probably wouldn't use it as good but he does have all the info on how it works and i mean DMS obito would be a problem at that point (DMS obito susano siuuuuu) and kakashi can just be back up and annoy the FTG bros from a distance or try and pull the marked kunai to disrupt their movement etc.
would run out of chakra instantly
Minato and Tobirama are the ones who'd stop that
@@Clashy69the idea a Rinnegan user would run out of chakra is a joke, just absorb chakra non stop
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964from who
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 exactly and Obito has the uchiha body so his full sharingan wouldnt drain his much but i sgree FTGbros wouldnt just let them pull of that strat but maybe obito//Kakashi can hide out in the kamui subspace at the start of the fight and emerge with new eyes
Minato and Tobirama kind of hard counter Kamui since they can just teleport out. And they both have as good or better speed scaling to Kakashi/Obito.
Tobirama would just become a terrorist and teleports to kakashi and blows him up
Kakashi just gives Obito his eye back, Obito then proceeds to Susanoo and kamui spam to win
@@zerogoodcontent7293 Obito doesn't have hashirama cells when he has both eyes in the anime, thus, him bleeding out his eyes
@@streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933he has Hashirama’s cells. Remember half his body was fixed with that. He was probably bleeding because he doesn’t have eternal mangekyo.
Spam? With what chakra? 😂 on the other hand Minato has Kurama’s chakra & can keep up with Susanoo
I feel like putting 2 semi-immortal hokage against anyone feels unfair 😂
@@Julnz in regards to most teams yes but the Kamui duo is pretty deadly
Who’s immortal
@@RandoRandy-o5j Edo Tensei have basically infinite chakra and can regenerate their bodies, so they’re basically impossible to kill because they’re already dead
Kakashi matched kcm minatos speed when they attacked zetsu
Imagine obito if he had both sharingan
He shits on everyone
@@devinhanna53 😟😟
A healthy Obito who ain’t dying would be above DMS Kakashi which is insane
@@zerogoodcontent7293 with what proof.kakashi kamui raikiri is crazy.regular raikiri speed blitzed regular obito the moment they steppped into the kaamui dimension.raikiri scales above obito so kamui raikiri should still be above dms obito.
@@NateKh-i6t because a Sharingan is always better when used by its original owner. Kakashi never speed blitz Obito with or without Raikiri, Raikiri doesn’t scale above Obito.
Obito’s DMS would be superior too DMS Kakashi’s. Obito would be able to imbue his attacks with Kamui too just like Kakashi and if the Naruto series didn’t forget about the copy feature of the Sharingan Obito would be even more busted
Couldn’t Kakashi have Obito grab on to either Minato or Tobirama and Kamui Tag them. Obito would just phase out of it it completely and it would directly counter Flying Rajin if it’s used.
That wouldn’t work since Minato knows about Kamui to some extent and would’ve informed Tobirama. Plus both former hokages have some of the best reaction speed feats up to that point.
Couldn’t they just use FTG to teleport away?
@@donovan4222 if Obito is able to use a Rod he can negate FTG
@@Edjuyl that’s true
I wouldn't wanna be the person to clean up that mess
@@ivanbluecool foreal 😂😂
Immortal Minato is unfair unless Kakashi can tag him. Tobirama and Minato wins it majority of the time.
Well against the Kamui duo it’s actually pretty tough with how fast they are with their own respective Kamui and now that it’s doubled speed it’s even more difficult
Well Obito already lost to Minato and tobirama is a senju so I would assume he has more chakra and is physically stronger than kakashi... Also didn't Minato put a marker on kakashi as a kid? ...You know that one time he saved kakashi's ass on a mission when kakashi barged in on some cocky shit with his chidori. If I'm correct that's an instant kill and Minato also marked Obito when they faught already soooo... Yea Minato solos and tobirama just kinda assists as a great distraction 🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂... And if this is edo Minato and tobirama they have regeneration and Minato has KCM 😲... Also y'all are wrong FTG can jump from dimension to dimension so kamui can't trap them. They would fuck up if they kamui them into that dimension because they can put a mark in the kamui dimension and teleport back and forth to counter kamui and if it's Minato they're fucked because he can spam it like it's nothing 😊
The thing is only boruto's ftg is dimensional. And you're literally comparing a 14yo obito to an adult version with a whole rinnegan...
And if Tobirama and Minato can teleport out of the kamui dimension then they can't be edo as neither Obito nor Kakashi has a way to kill them
@@Vulpesio ok so Minato kills kakashi because he is marked and Minato kills tobi because he is marked. Renigan or no renigan neither of kakashi nor tobi are fast enough to react to Minato... Especially edo Minato with KCM 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@bigc4197 what does that have to do with them being edo? Bro in the video said they are edo in the scenario. Even if they aren't Minato is still light years faster than both kakashi and tobi and both kakashi and tobi are already marked by Minato so Minato is literally a hard counter to both of them
@@Vulpesio also they never stated that boruto is the only one who can FTG from dimension to dimension. It's a technique. He didn't buff it, he just uses it. He even said he's not as good at it as Minato was... Soooo that means, if Minato is better at it and boruto (WHO LITERALLY ADMITTED TO BEING WORSE AT IT THAN MINATO) Can jump from one dimension to another then so can Minato 🤦🏾♂️🤨🤦🏾♂️
Tobirama is way to strong to be in the match with these 3 clowns.
Except all three of them would mop the floor with Tobirama in a 1v1
@@kumarayush9950cap
Idk@@jamaalmike8611
@@kumarayush9950 Facts.
@@jamaalmike8611Cap? U Tobirama is not him. Sit tf down
Minato and tobirama doesnt get caught by kamui and sealed dimension meams it a pocket dimension and not "if i get teleported there i cant teleport out"
If you make a claim back it up with some facts snow ,dont be like the troll dygo
Going off the data book statement man lol look it up it calls Kamui a sealed demension meaning at very least it’s up to interpretation
@@TheLightningBlade Boruto was able to travel dimensions with flying raijin so kamui won't be effective. Kakashi should just give obitos left eye back and sit back
@@ubaidmughal6825 i haven’t really read Boruto a whole lot so I wasn’t really taking that into account
@@TheLightningBlade yeah that’s fine if you didn’t know but kamui won’t keep them in the kamui dimension, they can get out
@@ubaidmughal6825 I mean it is up to interpretation because it’s unknown if the demension that Boruto traveled from was “sealed” or not. Whereas the databook says Kamui is a sealed demension specifically
dumb video, 10min in nothing but yapping, if they used fact and logic for 1min the winners would be determined but no.
"synonymous" does not mean what you think it does my bro
Kamui is a sealed dimention, but shouldnt minato and tobirama be able to escape by teleporting while the kamui portal is open?
Yeah that’s definitely a possibility if they are precise enough
Boruto used it to teleport into another dimension.
I was intrigued until bro introduced dygo 😔
😂😂😂😂😂😂yooooo
@@Micheal-qd8cn nah bro I’m so serious like he genuinely has some of the worse takes ever I’ve ever heard like and I’m fair asf everyone who uploads genuine well informed Naruto content I’ll tune in and listen to your stream or videos while doing other things and just listening but when you’re spittin hot bullshit like Dygo idk man it’s pretty hard to just sit there listen😭I’ve seen quite a few of his vids and he literally argued against FACTS and true statements or look at info written by the author and be like “yea that’s just not true” like wtf😭😭😭
Why no one is talking about Genjutsu? Obito’s obviously 🤔
They think it won't be affective one because both these guys are God's we think tobirama won't fall for a genjutsu cause he fought Uchihas all his life and if genjutsu would work on Minato he would have done it when he fought him
I don't agree because Obito fought Minato before literally all of his Genjutsu feats.@@shadowrksstudiosandenterta4520
Interesting topic
UCHIHA WIN THIS
Does kakashi and obito's eye resonate to create a susano?
no
Kakashi is too weak here. He doesn't have intangibility nor anywhere near ss much chakra as obito which kinda just make it easy to jump kakashi and then obito. Obito also doesn't have too much support defense.
Also this is Edo so obito is the only one who can permanently get rid of them and he only has 1 TSO that is much slower than the FTG duo
Hey lightning Can you make a video on the true power of dms kakashi like you know many people still downplay him And also many people fail to acknowledge the fact that he blitzed a version of kaguya who was exponentially faster and stronger than naruto and sasuke as stated by black zetsu also the word exponentialy means he is above and beyond naruto shippuden characters except kaguya since when you think about it exponents are way higher than multiples especially as the number gets bigger and bigger so if you say that kaguya normal form is equal or faster than naruto and sasuke than she was said to be exponentially fatser which means she was millons of times faster than them both but kakashi blitzed her so he blitzes any naruto shippuden character and coming to boruto we should scale kakashi on the place where we scale kaguya so kakashi can definitely scale to bs naruto and current boruto
Why are we saying minato is used to fighting kamui? He only fought against it once it’s not like he has all the ins and outs of the jutsu
And yet it was enough to at force Obito to retreat. I’m sure a couple more scuffles and he’ll have it figured out.
@@TheLightningBlade probably but you guys acted like minato was the kamui whisperer the whole video when he only fought against it once
@@RandoRandy-o5j i mean if you say so but the only part I remember when regarding that is that it’ll be very helpful for Minato to at least give that info that he has already on Kamui to Tobirama so at the very least be a little more wary of what to look out for 🤷🏻♂️
Kamui doesn’t hurt Minato or Tobirama because they can just teleport out of it.
Obito didn’t have to retreat he has a healing factor & white zetzu to heal him
I can see why be high dif but i would lean to minato and tobirama more since evn if teleporr tobirama to the dimenson now obito cant phase against minato or he slash by tobirama in the kd or sum clone
all fun and games until tobirama lets them get an attack in so kamui wont work as their attacking, then minato uses the round robin with a rasengan in his hand to finish one of them
Dygo and lightning is my favorite two man 😏
Appreciate it 😏💪🏻
Itachi victims
L rage bait
loses to evryone here
space-time ninjutsu users and users of teleporting techniques can escape the Kamui dimension
Not really. The only reason Boruto could travel through dimensions with it is because he can sense the markers across dimensions. You need Six paths sage mode, Rinnengan or Otsutsuki sensory to do that.
Love your unique ideas for the videos can you make a crossover video between Naruto vs Eren Yager
eren what get deleted😭
just watching 5 minutes into this ik ya didn’t watch the war arc lol you do not have to be touching to double the speed of it obito can use his version like he did vs juubidara and that was when both used the ms together they can use both versions and double it
If you say so in any case thanks for watching bro 😎💪🏻
Kamui vs FTG nice vid idea
We all know why DYGO wouldnt know this lol. But Boruto has shown recently that FTG can indeed cross dimensions. Unironically
@@ontoya1 I know it can cross demensions. My argument is that with Kamui being called a sealed demension that there might be a way that FTG can’t get out of Kamui. It’s not stated whether the demension that Boruto traveled from was sealed or not
@@TheLightningBlade I know bro, I was just poking fun. Love y'all both, great video
@@ontoya1 appreciate it bro
Didn’t Boruto FTG to another dimension?
Because he made changed to it
His technique is different
What if Kakashi just gives fresh obito the other eye and he boots up a full body DMs kamui susano… (Minato and Tobirama are cooked)
Nope, because dms Obito no longer has hashirama cells, so he can't spam
It really doesn’t matter who’s taken by kamui. Boruto proved that ftg can be used to teleport between dimensions 😊
Baruto can do that because he made changed to it
difference between the dimension boruto teleported to and from is that they aren't stated to be sealed dimensions while Kamui is stated to be a sealed dimension.
Sealed for those that can't teleport.ftg moves across dimensions so they can teleport to ninja realm@@thesurvivlist5440
@@abp_gvo_2275 head cannon
@@abp_gvo_2275 actually sasuke summoned a bird to kaguyas dimension. So I reverse summoning or teleportation should be possible
Nice vid
Appreciate it man!
Kamui brothers supremacy 🗿🗿🔥🔥
Definitely 😎💪🏻
Get dygo out of here
Nahhh
I give this to Obito and Kakashi but because of the rinnegan being able to summon the juubi… I honestly don’t think it comes down to Kamui vs FTG because they have a good grasp on how each others abilities work especially Kakashi and Obito understanding how ftg works more so than Minato and Tobirama understanding Kamui. Even if Minato placed seals on Kakashi and Obito, Kakashi would be aware enough of the seals and if you can guess where Minato / Tobirama are teleporting too than it’s easy to react and counter. Minato just wouldn’t recklessly teleport behind them with their guard up and both Obito and Kakashi have Omni-directional ways of protecting themselves
Obito lets his guard down more however he has a lot of healing factor and defense that Rasengans won’t be enough to take him out.
I feel like this battle would be heavily Taijutsu based with Kakashi stalling Minato while Obito makes quick work of Tobirama then Obito backing up Kakashi.
The plot demands that the next generation surpasses the one before it lmaooo 😭
@@slimxjimki LOL in what world does Obito beat tobirama?? 😭😭🙏, definitely not reality, where is ur source coming from that Obito let's his guard down more then KAKASHI?????
Kakashi aint stalling minato.
Lots of holes. First, no Juubi summoning without tailed beasts. You speak of “omni- dimensional defences” Obito & Kakashi have. What defences are these? Obito simply has Kamui which is more than enough but Kakashi…what does he have to match Minato’s Kurama form?
We already know what Minato can do against Obito with no rinnegan.
We know Kakashi's Kamui can be dodged even just by flying away (Deidara), so much more by teleporting.
Yeah unless we have Obito and Kakashi at their very last versions in the war arc (Jubito, DMS Kakashi), there's no way they'd win this.
Ur really going to use a first time kamui user as a reference point? Gtfoh
@@ramikpark8387 If you mean Minato vs Obito: It's a solid reference point coz the topic is kamui vs hiraishin and that fight was exactly that.
If you mean Kakashi vs Deidara: The point is Kamui is fast but isn't instant. It can be dodged if you're fast enough.
@dakila101 I'm talking about Kakashi's. When he used it, he was a noob. Now he can snipe a moving KCM2 Naruto's rasengan out of the air while he is fighting WM Obito. "Just Flying away" as an example isnt going to cut it.
And since u brought it up, that was an Obito w/ NO RINNEGAN. We can talk about how YM Obito attack no longer holds as much water
Why ppl hate dygo?
Boruto fans hate him because he speaks the truth
He an uchiha dick rider but most importantly can back up his claims
For so many reasons. Since I'm a professional Dygoknight hater, i can list some.
This dvmb@ss believes Naruto is weaker in Boruto than in the War and his only evidence was "Might Guy was bending space-time." Even when confronted, he still doubles down on it.
There are other instances where he was just straight up wrong like his Hebi Sasuke scaling over the Sanin even tho there is direct evidence that debunks this from Sasuke himself.
I hate his stance on many videos/topics
I personally hate the way that he talks in most of HIS videos. In other people's vids, it's somewhat tolerable. With that being said, i hate his voice as well 😂
I feel like Kendrick on Euphoria
@@ramikpark8387 I see dygo as a troll at this point for views hell say any rubbish that comes to his head to lvl up sasuke or itachi,tg and virthue are on the same shit(they try to make it not as obvious as dygo)
@@ramikpark8387 lmao
tobirama the water boy and benchwarmer of this fight 😭
I think Obito and Kakashi win regardless of the scaling because if one of them dies first, then the other one would just give them the MS like what happened with DMS kakashi. I think we all know DMS Kakashi slams or DMS Obito
no more drinking today for you LOL!
Flying Rajin right into this Kamui 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Yeah no....
@@SasukeY2JItachi who does bro think he is 😭😭🙏🙏
hes fought obito before, and tobirama entire existence is to have jutsu that counter the uchiha, use ur head child😆