Swiss Alpenflage vs US Woodland Camouflage Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, the effectiveness of Swiss Alpenflage is tested against US Woodland camouflage in the American South in winter. Alpenflage is distinct because of its unusual use of the color red. So does it only work in an autumn environment with copious amounts of red leaves, or does it perform decently in the setting of this video? Give your opinions in the comments section.
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It’s crazy how alpenflage actually works very well. I would have not think that.
I was doubting it too but wow
The Alpenflage was better suited for the overcast day. The woodland blended better on the sunny day. Interesting video!
The Alpenflage was less visible compared to the woodland from what I could tell
The Alpenflage did a lot better than I expected, honestly..
At the end of the video you basically summed up what I observed. Past a certain distance, you really can't see the red in the alpenflage at all, and it actually looks brown which blends in well with the surroundings.
I guess I never should have doubted German/Swiss ingenuity, but the red really did surprise me.
Both patterns are effective. Alpenflage is better for the short distance, because its segments are relative small. And Woodland is better for the long distance, due to large segments. In my opinion; every forest camouflage pattern performs well enough, so it is a matter of personal choice.
I used Woodland in the Eiffel region of Germany during the 90's for wild camping. I never got caught by a forest ranger.
Right on.. eluding German rangers is a great testament to woodland's effectiveness!
@@vikingshariayou have to try the Wasp II ZIIIA Pattern from phantomleaf it's a german Company located in Bad Säckingen. This pattern is for highley vegetated woodland environments in spring / summer time. This pattern is amazing propably the best woodland pattern you can get right now
Both seem to work well A;penflage does surprise most people in effectiveness. Plus it's relatively low-budget to purchase. Many offerings out there. Thanks!
Alpenflauge is best for Fall/Winter where vegetation is brown.
Woodland camouflage has alot of green, it will be better for spring/summer.
Alpenflage is surprisingly effective. The eye-catching red stops catching the eye as it moves away and works with the color spectrum to trick your eye. It's rather elaborate, though, and uses a complex pattern of seven colors. Woodland camouflage uses simpler pattern of four colors. The tan caught my eye as you moved closer.
A big fan of the "flage." Your stuff cracks me up. Lol.... 😅
Thanks, man. Glad somebody got a couple laughs out of it.
I preferred the Alpenflage. The warm and cool tones blended in better with the bark. The Camouflage was too green.
Right on, I have a newfound respect for Alpenflage.
I thought the same thing. It blends better with the dead vegetation during winter where the green actually stood out amongst the other greens. It's really weird how well the red plays into it all.
@@samuelneil2691red spectrum is hard to see at distance esp at night, dad laughed at my Taz 83 set till we went pig hunting in central texas brazos river bottom the pigges chased him not me and he lost me in woods several times and he was professional tracker.....he bought a set after he saw me pull down the mesh veil 😂
The alpenflage works good the red seems to disappear or fools the eye I believe alpenflage is more versatile
2 years later. WOW. I think that Alpenflage is a very good camo, but the Woodland was better in the sunny day while in the overcast both work at the same level... but I think the Woodland performed a little bit better. The woodland not only has a small pattern like the Alpenflage but also has a bigger patter of lights and shadows that makes it perform better in both cases.
Fun fact, the current Swiss camouflage is a mix between the shapes of the old Alpenflage, and the colors of the Woodland... The perfect mix for european forest
Had been a legitimate M70 alpenflage parka, they come with a veil built into the hood. I could see either until you popped up which i thought was very impressive for both camos. The alpenflage disappeared better overall from what i could tell though.
Alpenflage also has some cool IR response so you still blend under night vision.
The old BDUs did too, but you had to be careful about what kind of detergent you washed them; no color brighteners, and you didn't want to starch them, even pressing and starching was required. But I've heard that some, not me, kept a specific set of BDUs just for the field that never got starched and pressed.
I live in pa, and just got a good deal on some surplus Swiss camo and was worried it would only be good in the fall but after seeing this I think it’ll do. I wanted something different but effective and this seems to be it
Right on. And if it doesn't work out, someone commented on here that they used green dye on theirs. I've used black Rit dye on an ACU camo shirt and got dark shades of gray that looked a lot better, and it was a pretty easy project.
@@vikingsharia I thought about doing that if things don’t seem to work out but after getting my jacket, I’m confident enough in it and will most likely be hunting in it this year as is and all around enjoying this awesome gear because the quality really is impeccable for a $10 field jacket and $30 pants. I think I’ve found my camo!
Both pretty good although for fall hunting weather and in the video it looks like the redish alpenflage slightly wins. German flecktarn would be great for fall hunting weather too. Not sure if you tested it much but I have heard that digital comes work great up close but at further distances look like one solid color which actually draws the eye much more than clearly separated patterns like dpm, flecktarn, or that pimping Belgian camo. Any thoughts? Cheers
I haven't tested any digital patterns, but I did try out flecktarn and the desert tropentarn version this past fall/winter and was really impressed by them. I should probably make a video about that.
And lol that Belgian is pretty interesting
Might be different once the green leaves are back, but for now the Alpenflage appears more effective.
Yea I wanna do a spring/summer test now..
I adore both, but alpenflage hits different
Hi.
Great vid. I’m in the uk. We had the DPM which is just the best in our woods and forests, then it was changed to the MTP, which is rubbish in our woodlands but better on our moorlands, but to be honest, I think the Alpenflage looks better than both in Autumn, than either of them.
All the best👍🏾🇬🇧
The Ernst Rohn comment back to the commentor was awesome! About building the Viking sheild!
Lol glad somebody got the joke.
I would say the woodland was better suited
Alright a vote for Woodland!
I have the M70 (Alpenflage) jacket but have dyed it green. Not completely green, but just toned down the colours a bit. Works well in UK woodland.
Very cool idea!
no! this is absolute stupid idea.
this camo was ment for night operations so defezting night visions.
you are just potentially ruining its purpose
@@ZIC_lone_bee I am not doing night ops and nobody with nightvision is looking for me. 😂😂
My choice is Alpenflage! I especially like the tanker coverall!
Common Leibermuster W
Good vid. I'd like to see a comparison with the summer, or desert, version of the woodland. Subscribed.
Thanks man! I definitely wanna do more comparisons and it's a good excuse to expand the camo collection.
@@vikingsharia Yeah--I like to have camo for dark and light seasons. I've viewed a few more vids, and I'm glad I subbed.
@@vikingsharia I wanted to share one more thing. Check out the Alpenflage as night time camo. The white spots really throw off spotting an outline. Put a jacket over a bush at night and even shine a light on it. Sweet. Keep up the good vids.
@@TutorWindow That sounds interesting.. I'll give it a try. I wonder if chocolate chip desert camo would have a similar effect?
THANKS
Even the original Leibermuster was in fact more progressive and better thought out design than Woodland, in spite of being older.
This reminds me of "everything is better in Scotland" but with Germany haha th-cam.com/video/rv2BcBZan2A/w-d-xo.html
@Viking Sharia
O. K. But I am a Czech. Leibermuster provides makro/mikro camouflage. The whole idea behind the Leibermuster was: Patterns, that are effective at longer distances and break up the outline of the human body, lose much of their effectivenes at short distances. And vice versa: Patterns, effective at close distances, turn into one solid colour at longer distances, thus losing the properties and advantages of multicolour camouflage. Plus, the intended camo should have been effective in IR spectrum too. Leibermuster succedes in overcoming the makro/mikro camouflage dilema, while Woodland fails to do so. Leibermuster was copied not only by Swiss, but also by early Bundeswehr, Spanish army, and, since the WW2 in Europe ended in Czechoslovakia, thus making the German troops here the main users of this very last camo pattern, the Czechoslovak army copied Lwibermuster too. While woodland was used primarily by the u.s. vasal states, lacking their own capacity and expertise, needed for development of sophisticated camouflage pattern. Thats why I wrote what I wrote.
@@jankorinek2397 I was just joking around man but I appreciate you explaining your point. Do you think in my tests, Alpenflage beats woodland close and far away or do you think the distance needs to be greater to really demonstrate that?
@@vikingsharia
I am sorry, I didn't want to sound hostile. I think the distance is quite accurate to demonstrate the whole thing.
@@vikingsharia
The point is: Anybody can see and figure it out himself, that closing the distance would affect woodland effectivenes in a negative way, and increasing the distance would make the woodland concept more and more justifiable. On the other hand, Leibermuster is much more inert to these distance games. Thanks for your video anyway.
Gotta go woodland brother! Great video, very interesting stuff!
I lean towards woodland for most situations but I can't wait to test them again this fall..
@@vikingsharia Hell, yeah! Any other plans for videos testing out other commos?
@@vikingsharia I would also say that Alpenflage is most definitely the superior camo in the fall foliage
@@jaketungseth7600 I'd like to test sumpftarn or maybe some type of snow camo..
Swiss Alpenflage is allot better camouflage pattern.
Alpenflage doesn't look effective until you're far enough away
Hey where u get that Alpenflage hoodie😮
It's just a Swiss M83 field jacket with a Coleman hoodie underneath.
Where is my Alpenflage? Lol
Is that a alpenflage hoodie?
Nah it's an m83 field jacket.. it'd be cool if it had a hood.