Mark must be chained to his desk to edit this much content, no wonder he keeps getting so many divorces. We’re swimming in Geese videos. This is the best week ever!
What about Toyota USA GR Corolla 1.6L Turbo 3cylinder that bust into 🔥 ? That issues still ongoing without any warranty or recall? Or it just US Toyota Quality issues to be blame? And also 2025 US GR Corolla didn't update dashboard layout worst with that infotainment rob visibility. Just look 2020 Toyota Japan GR 1.6L Turbo 3cylinder didn't have any news car goes to flame 🔥. 2025 GR Yaris Improvement facelift & interior massive update from previous model. Big change "the dash layout is you don't have the old infotainment sitting proud on the dash" it's actually 5cm lower & that means you get better visibility.
Imagine being a badass engineer and because you're a badass engineer now you have to learn a whole new language so you can answer questions from Savagegeese's resident man-gorilla.
The thing about engineering terminology is that it can be completely different between languages. So not only do you need to know the basic 'speaking' words you have to know the specific engineering terms and references that won't always have a direct translation
Does the automatic come with an 84.9 MPH speed limiter? You know, since Toyota officially states engine fires are to be expected at 85 MPH and above. Because of the, ah, *checks notes* tires.
Wow, at 9:10 he says we will look in the future into the heat issue...so the heat issue hasn't been solved. It's an entry level sports car according to him...???guess no GR Corolla for me
@@myusernameadDepends on how you use it tbh. The issue only happens after 3 hot laps on a track, and some people haven't had the issue. If you're just gonna be doing some spirit daily driving should never encounter it.
@@BDA0531 EN is good if you don't plan on making big power. WRX also has open diffs, and the handling isn't close unless you splurge for the TR or the upcoming Ts which is manual only which puts you over 40k. WRX auto is a CVT..
Sakamoto san interview was super interesting. Im a muscle car guy, but the 2 times he has been on the channel made me appreciate this car. Much to my fathers dismay, lol.
Agreed! Looks like a smooth ride and that would be a lot of fun on track. Low stress, cut it loose, aren’t bankrupt if you wreck it. As fun track days should be 😂
I think you highlighted an important aspect of what Savage geese is trying to encompass at a macro point. Which is that in engineering with a team is focused and dedicated (with funding) they can make anything sound cool and work well. That's something outside the brand recognition that we all can respect and enjoy.
@@Epicacactus "arent't bankrupt"?? this thing is ove 60 grand after dealer markup lmao. like the type R, they are good ideas on paper but not good for the common man whos passionate about driving. The dealer's fault too. If there was a law that the car must be MSRP, we would not have lost SOO MANY sports cars today. I shyed away from tons of vehicles just because I was excited to pay 35 or 40 grand for something nice, but at 50+, forget it. Insurance also goes up.
@@twrcrew8852 I'm in CA and my employer has a fleet of Toyota Siennas. Our service rep at the dealership told me they sold a loaded GR Corolla for 80k!!! Just absurd! I paid 35.5 OTD for my STi with just 9k miles on it. There is nothing special about the GR that makes it worth a penny over 40k, and I wouldn't trade my Subie for one straight up even if I could.
Hearing chief engineers speak is honestly so satisfying. My biggest complaint about the car is going into limp mode, but hearing him say the car should be treated as entry level for Motorsport is refreshing. The car is super easy to drive and gives a lot of confidence, but it’s not meant for an experienced driver pushing the car to its limits. He obviously can’t directly say you should get a different car for intense Motorsport activity, but he was indirectly hinting at it.
Possibly indirectly hinting about a GRMN trim, as well - they've been caught testing a GR Corolla on Nurburgring that seems to have additional front end cooling ducts/air outlets, so that leads to think about an even more aggressive trim.
I don’t get the Dave Grohl reference either. He’s been married twice and is currently still married to his second spouse. Hardly controversial ** yawn 🥱
Ah man that 50k price tag is a killer man, that's why the only GR product I'm interested in is the GR86 which is nearly 20k cheaper than the top line Corolla.
@@royshavrick right, but if you're talking about affordability, then talking about a fully loaded car makes no sense. You'd have to compare to a BRZ tS or GR86 Hakone, which are ~$35,000, and don't offer the auto...so you're then comparing against a manual premium plus, which would drop the difference to about $10,000. Apples to apples, that makes sense - the GR86 isn't meant to sit on that tier within the GR lineup, but the prices fall more in line with a normal delta.
I’ve had my 24 GR Yaris automatic for a couple of months and close to 5kkm. I was super doubtful about the AT, having experience with Toyota’s and Lexus’ sporty automatics from the past, but it truly is fantastic. I’d compare it to a 8hp in BMW’s, speed wise. The gearbox programming in GR Yaris is rather aggressive. It rarely slips on the converter, during steady load it always keeps the revs above 2000 rpm even in Eco mode (about 2500-2800 rpm in sport more). The downshifts are immediate, it can kickdown multiple gears. It’s really impressive in mid range. I’ve noticed it was learning my driving habits for the first 1-2kkm, was occasionally sluggish, but now I can’t fault it. I just wish eco mode was more relaxed for everyday driving. I had my doubts about this gearbox, but it’s fantastic. I don’t think it reduces anything from the driving experience, if anything it helps to utilize massive mid-range surge of the engine. Love it.
"I’d compare it to a 8hp in BMW’s. " You mean the ZF in rear wheel drive BMWs? I understand the GR Corolla has the *same* 8-speed Aisin gearbox as in transverse-engine BMWs and MINIs -- i.e., the same gearbox as in the BMW 128ti, BMW M135 XDrive, BMW M235 XDrive Gran Coupe and recent Mini Cooper S ICE variants.
@@TassieLorenzo Oh no, I meant the ZF 8hp. I had experience with M340i and in the M2, and the shift speed, response and violence (if you will) is quite similar, if not better in the Yaris. That being said, I wish the 1-5 ratios were shorter. I’m not really sure if the UC80 is the same as the models you mentioned, it might be the same family of gearboxes. Though the M135 I drove had definatelly more sluggish response and slower shift times.
Just like when the GTI introduced their dsg, this is going to help to sell more cars. And more cars sold means a longer run of the manual version of this car as well. Every enthusiast car that has only been manual has had a hard time selling, especially within the last decade. The entire ST line at Ford were solid cars but limited themselves to manuals, while great for cred and "real car guy reviews", doesn't keep the lights on for too long.
No it wont. They cant make enough for the demand of only the manual car. Now they will divert some of that production to auto, so those who want manual are still screwed. All theyve done is reallocate away from those who want a manual. Granted, it makes for a much faster track car.
Huge fan of SG and thankful we have a connection to GRC designers. Last GRC videos we were told you would ask about the AWD overheating…. what a waste of an opportunity to push them on the AWD overheating question. No solution in 3rd model year ? I’m an “entry level” driver and 3 track days have lead to 5 overheating sessions. We finally had a chance to have an answer and didn’t even get the question. If it’s an ECU programming question why did they not solve it? If it’s a mechanical issue why are there no solutions?
I appreciate Toyota for making this car, so please don't think I am hating on this car. The #1 problem right now is not the car itself but the dealers that sell them. I keep hearing "Base Price Under $40k" No dealer within 200 miles of my home will sell you a GR with a manual for under that price. I walk into a VW dealer and can get a fully loaded Golf R with DSG for $47k and they will work with you. I have been in both cars. Say what you will about VW but the Golf R for around the same price point (realistically) is just the better value. Keep in mind that most likely 95% of these cars on either side will ever see a race track. Most if any may autocross the car but they will never see a race track anyway. The VW rides better, has more options as standard and is just more comfortable to be in and not to mention bone stock will hit 60 in 4 seconds flat. I am leaning towards the Golf for the dealer experience too. VW comes to me and right away will work with you. Toyota and the GR? This is what we are selling it for with our markup if you don't buy it someone else will mentality just really turns me off. That's been my experience thus far. Haven't bought anything yet, but leaning towards the VW.
I agree. The golf r is overpriced in my opinion but compared to the competition the value is amazing. The interior and reliability is miles ahead of the gr. The golfs take tuned really well too. I miss my mk7 gti, was a phenomenal car, but the cost to upgrade to an r was too much to justify for just adding awd
@@eppyz an F-150 lol. There's too much traffic around for any spirited driving and the roads are terrible for low profiles. My GTI was a base model and I really wanted adaptive cruise for all the traffic and keyless entry. If I couldve afforded to keep it I would've. My only qualm with it was android auto disconnecting and front wheel drive. It was hard to not spin the tires with a tune. If they made a golf truck I would definitely buy it lol
Toyota has by far the worst dealer experience that I've encountered. You can't even place an order for the car and spec you want like literally every other dealer lets you do. You have to place an allocation and "hope" the dealer can get the car in the spec you want. They don't even have the Toyota reliability excuse to fall back on with the GR Corolla compared to the golf.
@@khonjel_singh ALLEGEDLY, Garand Thumb cheated on his second wife (he also allegedly cheated on his first wife) after grifting as a Christian “family man” for the past however many years.
So, they made all of these changes to make it a more “track-focused” car, but have not actually fixed the major, dealbreaker problem for track use, the diff overheating assumed value issue? This car has so much potential but this is a very silly thing! The engineer basically said that they designed a $50,000 car for first-timers to do parade laps around a track.
It's really bizzare. It can't be that difficult to fix. At least the Type R cooling issues can be addressed in the aftermarket...although I haven't needed to yet. I can run my FK8 9/10ths at Daytona for full 20 minute sessions without overheating. What's the point of dragging around an AWD system if it's FWD on track?
@@SlowDriverSean They could probably code it out! And promptly grenade the diff. Engineers didn't add that code to be a wet blanket. They know the mechanical limitations and added the fail safe in the ECU to keep the drivetrain from exploding. The GRC is still built to a price point. And frankly, you get a lot for the money, 300HP, four doors, AWD, and good brakes. Sure, it can only handle 15 minutes of hot lapping, but that's better than a lot of cars, even "sporty" ones. If you track a car regularly enough that you need more seat time, it's probably time to upgrade to one of the other GR vehicles and leave the GRC for daily driver duty.
I obviously don't know your situation, but when I was in high school Honda announced the S2000 was coming. I worked hard for scholarships and made sacrifices like living with my parents through college. I got into a job that was paying OK, had no family, and lived in a modest apartment. All this to say I made choices to limit my expenditures and was able to buy my dream car - a used S2000. It was $24k in 2006 money, equivalent to just less than a brand new base GR Corolla in today's money. I kept the S2000 for a dozen years. You may or may not be able to do the same, but here's to hoping you can align your trajectory to allow the purchase of a GR Corolla in the not-too-distant future.
I dig the fact this transmission is an option. I injured my ankle and can’t drive a manual anymore. I like the idea of this over a Golf R, which I’ve never liked the brake feel of. Now if it were only like $40k loaded and it’d be on my short list, $50k is just a bit too much for me right now.
I find so cute how Americans think having to pay 1 year worth of their salary for a sports car is ridiculously expensive when in my country the cheapest, most decrepit shitbox is worth like 5 years the average income. Don't get me wrong, You all have the right to complain as much as you want, I just find it funny as someone watching it from a 3rd world country haha.
@@DioTheGreatOne 👈😂 rather than engage in wealth envy, you should just look at LEGALLY immigrating to the US & participate in the purest form of capitalism to the extent that it survives under the current regime.
Everyone who shops this car should ask if it's REALLY worth 10-15k more than an Elantra N. Obviously some parts are non-negotiable for certain buyers(AWD, Toyota badge, etc) but that's a pretty penny to pay for those features...
The Golf R is not a particularly fun car to drive though. It's a bunch of work just to make the steering feel and throttle response OK, why VW tune it to be so numb is a mystery. [You can go into the steering module with VCDS and turn off the overly aggressive pull-drift compensation filtering called "straight line running" to get some steering feel back; while there is not that much you can do about the silly time-delay algorithm VW programmed into the throttle, throttle controllers only mask it really. Both of these things (the most basic inputs/outputs being "wrong") would annoy enthusiasts a lot.]
I think your $60,000+ gr corolla build has jaded you somewhat or taken away your realistic reference point for this car. For someone who has never driven a modified gr corolla, I’m sure these changes will be more pronounced or noticeable. Either way, thank you for producing this video and for asking all of these questions!
@TML34 well he should make videos on his expirence cause just saying it in the comments is just proving my point that the golf R is the better/safer route
I own a 24 GRC Premium, and my 2 concerns are the 85 mph corpo side problem and the transfer case cooling problem. It isnt even addressed yet for the cooling side of things, which has been a big talking point of owners and enthusiasts alike since the car came out. Im surprised they barely talked about it at all themselves here. If it's not even reading real current temps, just an assumption, surely they could start there?
Its disappointing they didn't fix the diff issue. Sakamoto San pretty much said that it'll overheat for the same users. No sensor. Better cooling. I'll assume they re calibrated their model of load. Hopefully it means you can get a few more laps in.
A 3rd year build with a single issue of overheating and NO answer from Toyota on a response? Ridiculous that they can just dodge the question of a solution
9:38 Wish we had the GR Yaris or the fun wild factor of the Yaris. Sakamato-san confirmed they mean to keep the Corolla as a stable, easy to drive, less wild model
@@The_Stanman CAFE footprint rule would be very punitive against trying to sell a Yaris-sized car with a "large" 1.6 turbo engine, unfortunately (same for the Fiesta ST).
@@mesopotamian97Damn dude, you look like the type of husband which asks Wife’s boyfriend if he can buy mid trim Minivan. Stop with the soylent. No offence…
May have been designed as an "Entry Level Sports Car" but the sales and marketing department got a hold of it and its now just shy of a Type R in price. Certainly not entry level attainable.
I'd keep the old sway bar with the new setup. Sounds like diff overheat remains the same. Even though I've been racing a long time, I think its still fun on and off track - just needs more rear rotation which is easy enough to change.
My hope is that the upcoming GRMN Corolla will alleviate most of the cooling issues. I feel the 2025 model is more of an update to the transmission kind of based from what I am seeing.
As someone w/ a messed up back and can no longer daily a manual, this is awesome news. People gatekeep and rant about poseurs (I used to) but this is a win for car lovers. The longer and more we can produce these awesome enthusiast machines the better. Might be my next daily but with a G70 it could be awhile.
To me, if you have a valid reason to not drive manual I get it. For me I'll drive manual until I die or lose limbs, but I don't judge others for getting an auto.
TBH its faster and it looks like they actually tried with this auto instead of just throwing in the same auto of a base corolla with slightly tuned shift mapping. These days autos only suck when nobody cared when they developed it.
Idk them adding coolers is their way of saying we knew it overheated from the start but released it anyways. Also, doesn’t sound like they fixed the overheating transfer case issue…I assume the auto will definitely have a less chance of overheating (if manual mode isn’t used) but still sounds like it wasn’t fixed. I guess we will see. Till then I’ll stick with my manual 24 GRC with fog lights 😎
With a refresh they had a chance to update the interior and change that $30 baby monitor looking head unit, but nah. You'll have to endure the rental car looking dashboard in your 50k car. IMO They made the front uglier too.
@@ShaiyanHossain That's neither her nor there. Toyota still could've updated and improved the interior, regardless if that's not the main reason why people buy this car.
The English was kicking his ass alil hit ... But this is probably the only channel where you're going to get a actual questionnaire / interview from the actual engineer 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💯👍🏽😊
Isn't SavageGeese already at saturation for people who are interested in technical deep dives into enthusiast vehicles? If you are interested in that, you'll already be watching SG. SG's subscriber base has grown considerably since 10-12 years ago when the videos averaged 10-20k views!
The dif issue was the final nail for me. I really, really wanted this car since the US didn't get the GR Yaris (and there's no WRX/STI in wagon/hatch form), but the value just isn't there when you look at what else you can get for the price.
Should just do Tarmac /Gravel /Snow…… and keep them always variable depending on the type of terrain used. And maybe even a FWD mode…. So you can use a spare tire safely
Not a bad update to this car. 0-60mph is around 6.7sec for the 8-speed automatic. I’d love for Acura to offer either their wonderful 8-speed DCT, or wonder 10-speed in the Integra Type-S.
Makes you wonder why it took so long for Toyota to bring the GR performance option. They realise the auto industry is in huge change and anything to extend current platforms is a win. I think at 50K this will struggle against the Golf R a more complete and proven package. But competition is always good.
It seems like Toyota is learning how to build Subaru’s SH AWD system from 2000s. Maybe Toyota should just work with STI and come out with a collaboration Corolla. It seems like they’ve learned so slowly. The rear differential tuning should be way more advanced than STI and Evo but yet it seems they just figured out. $45k car that barely outperforms a stock WRX
Still sounds like a solid vehicle. I would still go manual. I’m just about a year away from (most likely) selling my ‘13 wrx hatch and using those funds as a down on one of these-potentially.
Few thoughts on this. The gr corolla stands as a hallmark of Toyota deliverying an in house sports option. I think they accomplished what they intended. I do wish they would soup up the gr corolla more and then split a lower fwd lsd option with this motor and actually make it a civic si brawler. Arguably the civic si (forgive me chat but it's for the argument point) is the ideal babys first sports car. It's reliable. Simple. Under 30( (barely) and it has the driving dynamic attention from a team who cares about the driver/car interaction. Swelling to 50k isn't entry level that's almost day 2 or middle of the road. 50k is a mustang gt or a Nissan z. My thoughts anyways I'm grateful to see into 2025 we have some spunky ice cars. And we will still have them for at least a few more years
I want one of these with 17 snow tires this winter so bad. I suspect the transfer case issues would melt away in snow driving. Roof rack and some skis ftw!
2 nit-picks, piano black on the interior needs to go, scratches easily and is super reflective, and all GRC's should have the bigger wing they offer. No GRC should have that dinky small wing.
I have to wonder if the change from being a fixed 50:50 split in track mode is there way of not having to fix the issue of it going into FWD after a few laps. I think this may be the first 8sp auto I have ever seen where every single gear is an underdrive. Not even 8th gear is 1:1.
Is the civic type R overpriced as well? What car with this level of performance isn’t overpriced? Elantra N is your only go to and even Hyundai techs say it won’t last. The Toyota brand carries this car for sure. Hope they don’t let ppl down.
@@ALT3REDB3AST Prices are set to what the market will bear. Prices will be cut when a model can't sell as many units as the manufacturer intends to sell, like the Dodge Hornet having its prices slashed. AFAIK, being able to shift the small numbers of units Toyota intends to sell is not a huge issue with the GR Corolla at its current prices.
we, in south east Asia, WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE if this car costs $40-50K USD here. Check the price for car here in South East Asia, and you will be grateful you live in USA where car is cheap and income is high (also don't forget to check what is the average income here in South East Asia)
They still haven’t installed an armrest? I almost rented the plebeian spec of this car. Got into it a Hertz, got out immediately and went to another car. I can’t believe at this price they don’t have an armrest.
I'm bothered by the story that a GR Corolla owner's car caught fire under the hood, and Toyota allegedly denied any warranty coverage due to third party records that the car had exceeded 85 mph. 85!
40k for this is ridiculous. If subaru can sell you a wrx for low 30s... This is ridiculous. This car will get cancelled soon enough anyway when dealers still mark up this thing and treat it as this monolithic super limited edition car...
Except that in its market and price point it’s still an amazing option with the Toyota brand behind it. There’s no dealers sitting on these. Toyota is selling the limited numbers they make as fast as they ship them. If it’s canceled it won’t be from lack of sales based on the 2023/2024 builds.
There are *SO many corners cut* on the Subaru to achieve A low 30s base model! The interior with bargain basement rental car cloth, an engine lifted almost directly from the Subaru Ascent with negligible re-engineering, open front and rear differentials, the feeble Subaru 6-speed manual transmission instead of the Aisin 6-speed that used to come in the STi... When you get to a decently specced model with nice trim, Brembos, Recaros etc like the tS or TR it's mid to high 40's is it not (even though it still has the Subaru gearbox and not the better Aisin manual)?
I have only ever seen a single GR corolla on the streets in Orlando while I'm in my Type R and yet I see R's all over the place. I just don't think they hit this one out of the park, seems a bit lacking. I know it's a good car and all but perhaps a miss. I wish we could see a new Celica coupe come out with 300 plus HP. The GT86 just never did it for me, I want to see something a bit more powerful and still around 40k or less.
I can't remember seeing any GR Corollas aside from Toyota promo cars in Australia either. The GR Yaris was pretty common when it first launched with a $40k AUD ($26k USD) base model 4-5 years ago though.
Nail ---> Head. Complete no-brainer on so many levels, 2 of which: BMW won't void your warranty for driving over 85mph & the level of bang-for-your-buck is way way in favor of the M240i now (especially since there's only Automatic transmissions)
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Mark must be chained to his desk to edit this much content, no wonder he keeps getting so many divorces. We’re swimming in Geese videos. This is the best week ever!
He probably wishes he was chained to his bed instead
tyrone didnt let mark go to the corolla gr event. he's currently dusting his house.
@@Jkub101 all of Mark's standing desks aren't going to dust themselves.
a ton of shit is still shit lol
What about Toyota USA GR Corolla 1.6L Turbo 3cylinder that bust into 🔥 ?
That issues still ongoing without any warranty or recall?
Or it just US Toyota Quality issues to be blame?
And also 2025 US GR Corolla didn't update dashboard layout worst with that infotainment rob visibility.
Just look 2020 Toyota Japan GR 1.6L Turbo 3cylinder didn't have any news car goes to flame 🔥.
2025 GR Yaris Improvement facelift & interior massive update from previous model. Big change "the dash layout is you don't have the old infotainment sitting proud on the dash" it's actually 5cm lower & that means you get better visibility.
Imagine being a badass engineer and because you're a badass engineer now you have to learn a whole new language so you can answer questions from Savagegeese's resident man-gorilla.
English is the official business language 👍🏻 So it makes sense that he's bilingual. Still a heavy accent of course
Yeah yeah yeah
The thing about engineering terminology is that it can be completely different between languages. So not only do you need to know the basic 'speaking' words you have to know the specific engineering terms and references that won't always have a direct translation
That's what makes Japanese to English speakers so impressive to me. German is actually alot easier to direct to English. Per se @@chkndnts
Does the automatic come with an 84.9 MPH speed limiter? You know, since Toyota officially states engine fires are to be expected at 85 MPH and above. Because of the, ah, *checks notes* tires.
This comment should have way more likes 😂
While I love their products, Toyota corporate deserves flak for what they’ve done.
Off of my wish list with that stance from Toyota for sure!
The audacity to have this press event on a racetrack lol
I’ve been crossshoping the golf r and the gr- ended up deciding to go with the R due to this, what a horrible move
Customer base - "Can you fix the transfer case heat issue?"
Toyota - "Best I can do is an automatic."
😂😂
Wow, at 9:10 he says we will look in the future into the heat issue...so the heat issue hasn't been solved. It's an entry level sports car according to him...???guess no GR Corolla for me
@@myusernameadDepends on how you use it tbh. The issue only happens after 3 hot laps on a track, and some people haven't had the issue.
If you're just gonna be doing some spirit daily driving should never encounter it.
@@DragonKnightX12EN & WRX both don’t have overheating issues and are both cheaper than the GRC
@@BDA0531 EN is good if you don't plan on making big power.
WRX also has open diffs, and the handling isn't close unless you splurge for the TR or the upcoming Ts which is manual only which puts you over 40k.
WRX auto is a CVT..
Sakamoto san interview was super interesting. Im a muscle car guy, but the 2 times he has been on the channel made me appreciate this car. Much to my fathers dismay, lol.
Agreed! Looks like a smooth ride and that would be a lot of fun on track. Low stress, cut it loose, aren’t bankrupt if you wreck it. As fun track days should be 😂
I think you highlighted an important aspect of what Savage geese is trying to encompass at a macro point. Which is that in engineering with a team is focused and dedicated (with funding) they can make anything sound cool and work well. That's something outside the brand recognition that we all can respect and enjoy.
@@Epicacactus "arent't bankrupt"?? this thing is ove 60 grand after dealer markup lmao. like the type R, they are good ideas on paper but not good for the common man whos passionate about driving. The dealer's fault too. If there was a law that the car must be MSRP, we would not have lost SOO MANY sports cars today. I shyed away from tons of vehicles just because I was excited to pay 35 or 40 grand for something nice, but at 50+, forget it. Insurance also goes up.
@@Epicacactus dunno what kind of money you got, but most us regular folks would be bankrupt wrecking a 40-50k car we just bought.
@@twrcrew8852 I'm in CA and my employer has a fleet of Toyota Siennas. Our service rep at the dealership told me they sold a loaded GR Corolla for 80k!!! Just absurd! I paid 35.5 OTD for my STi with just 9k miles on it. There is nothing special about the GR that makes it worth a penny over 40k, and I wouldn't trade my Subie for one straight up even if I could.
We made the transmission automatic. We also use your data to deny warranty if the car spontaneously combusts.
You mean the lying kid trying to get a payout since he wrecked it first
Great translation
😂😂😂 i was gonna say the same thing
2 out of close to 10,000 made. My god they're all burning to the ground!!!!
@@UnstoppableMileage
Whiteknighting for multibillion dollar corporations is crazy work I know u old asl 💀💀💀
I love the interviews with the chief engineers. Great stuff
Hearing chief engineers speak is honestly so satisfying. My biggest complaint about the car is going into limp mode, but hearing him say the car should be treated as entry level for Motorsport is refreshing. The car is super easy to drive and gives a lot of confidence, but it’s not meant for an experienced driver pushing the car to its limits. He obviously can’t directly say you should get a different car for intense Motorsport activity, but he was indirectly hinting at it.
Possibly indirectly hinting about a GRMN trim, as well - they've been caught testing a GR Corolla on Nurburgring that seems to have additional front end cooling ducts/air outlets, so that leads to think about an even more aggressive trim.
can agree with that interpretation. GR yaris will be a likely option if users are experienced drivers pushing the car to its limits.
Dave Grohl may not have saved our marriage but he did teach me to love roast beef again.
I don't get it
I don’t get the Dave Grohl reference either. He’s been married twice and is currently still married to his second spouse. Hardly controversial
** yawn 🥱
@@nextleveljourney6612he recently announced that he just had a child with someone who isn’t his wife. That’s the source of the memes.
Ah man that 50k price tag is a killer man, that's why the only GR product I'm interested in is the GR86 which is nearly 20k cheaper than the top line Corolla.
$42k for the Core with the DAT auto, so that's ~$8k closer. The ~$50k is a top of the line Premium Plus w/DAT.
@@aprtur well that's why I said top line corolla
And in exchange you'll give up two doors, the hatch space and the good engine.
@@royshavrick right, but if you're talking about affordability, then talking about a fully loaded car makes no sense. You'd have to compare to a BRZ tS or GR86 Hakone, which are ~$35,000, and don't offer the auto...so you're then comparing against a manual premium plus, which would drop the difference to about $10,000. Apples to apples, that makes sense - the GR86 isn't meant to sit on that tier within the GR lineup, but the prices fall more in line with a normal delta.
@@aprtur I suppose that's true, but 30k to 40k still is quite the jump
I’ve had my 24 GR Yaris automatic for a couple of months and close to 5kkm. I was super doubtful about the AT, having experience with Toyota’s and Lexus’ sporty automatics from the past, but it truly is fantastic. I’d compare it to a 8hp in BMW’s, speed wise.
The gearbox programming in GR Yaris is rather aggressive. It rarely slips on the converter, during steady load it always keeps the revs above 2000 rpm even in Eco mode (about 2500-2800 rpm in sport more). The downshifts are immediate, it can kickdown multiple gears. It’s really impressive in mid range.
I’ve noticed it was learning my driving habits for the first 1-2kkm, was occasionally sluggish, but now I can’t fault it. I just wish eco mode was more relaxed for everyday driving.
I had my doubts about this gearbox, but it’s fantastic. I don’t think it reduces anything from the driving experience, if anything it helps to utilize massive mid-range surge of the engine. Love it.
Also, no rear differential issues on 15-minute stints on a short, twisty racetrack! So maybe they’ve changed something they won’t communicate.
"I’d compare it to a 8hp in BMW’s. " You mean the ZF in rear wheel drive BMWs? I understand the GR Corolla has the *same* 8-speed Aisin gearbox as in transverse-engine BMWs and MINIs -- i.e., the same gearbox as in the BMW 128ti, BMW M135 XDrive, BMW M235 XDrive Gran Coupe and recent Mini Cooper S ICE variants.
@@TassieLorenzo Oh no, I meant the ZF 8hp. I had experience with M340i and in the M2, and the shift speed, response and violence (if you will) is quite similar, if not better in the Yaris. That being said, I wish the 1-5 ratios were shorter. I’m not really sure if the UC80 is the same as the models you mentioned, it might be the same family of gearboxes. Though the M135 I drove had definatelly more sluggish response and slower shift times.
Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the Yaris transmission a 9 speed dual clutch?
@@stefanwinter1377 no, 8-speed torque-con AT
Just like when the GTI introduced their dsg, this is going to help to sell more cars.
And more cars sold means a longer run of the manual version of this car as well.
Every enthusiast car that has only been manual has had a hard time selling, especially within the last decade.
The entire ST line at Ford were solid cars but limited themselves to manuals, while great for cred and "real car guy reviews", doesn't keep the lights on for too long.
No it wont. They cant make enough for the demand of only the manual car. Now they will divert some of that production to auto, so those who want manual are still screwed. All theyve done is reallocate away from those who want a manual. Granted, it makes for a much faster track car.
GTI is priced quite differently and gets more casual buyers. Not this
Does the 2025 GTI still come with a manual?
GTI isn't 49K starting out itll be a tough sell
Sadly, production will probably still be low, and now split 50/50 with 6mt and auto...
Mark is so fluffy and quiet for once!
Love that Jack apparently asked for a timeout before lapping to put eurobeat on carplay
Huge fan of SG and thankful we have a connection to GRC designers. Last GRC videos we were told you would ask about the AWD overheating…. what a waste of an opportunity to push them on the AWD overheating question. No solution in 3rd model year ? I’m an “entry level” driver and 3 track days have lead to 5 overheating sessions. We finally had a chance to have an answer and didn’t even get the question. If it’s an ECU programming question why did they not solve it? If it’s a mechanical issue why are there no solutions?
I appreciate Toyota for making this car, so please don't think I am hating on this car. The #1 problem right now is not the car itself but the dealers that sell them. I keep hearing "Base Price Under $40k" No dealer within 200 miles of my home will sell you a GR with a manual for under that price. I walk into a VW dealer and can get a fully loaded Golf R with DSG for $47k and they will work with you. I have been in both cars. Say what you will about VW but the Golf R for around the same price point (realistically) is just the better value. Keep in mind that most likely 95% of these cars on either side will ever see a race track. Most if any may autocross the car but they will never see a race track anyway. The VW rides better, has more options as standard and is just more comfortable to be in and not to mention bone stock will hit 60 in 4 seconds flat. I am leaning towards the Golf for the dealer experience too. VW comes to me and right away will work with you. Toyota and the GR? This is what we are selling it for with our markup if you don't buy it someone else will mentality just really turns me off. That's been my experience thus far. Haven't bought anything yet, but leaning towards the VW.
I agree. The golf r is overpriced in my opinion but compared to the competition the value is amazing. The interior and reliability is miles ahead of the gr. The golfs take tuned really well too.
I miss my mk7 gti, was a phenomenal car, but the cost to upgrade to an r was too much to justify for just adding awd
@@xXlURMOMlXx so what did you sell your GTI for? The GTI is one of America's most underrated cars.
@@eppyz an F-150 lol. There's too much traffic around for any spirited driving and the roads are terrible for low profiles. My GTI was a base model and I really wanted adaptive cruise for all the traffic and keyless entry.
If I couldve afforded to keep it I would've. My only qualm with it was android auto disconnecting and front wheel drive. It was hard to not spin the tires with a tune.
If they made a golf truck I would definitely buy it lol
Widen your search area
Toyota has by far the worst dealer experience that I've encountered. You can't even place an order for the car and spec you want like literally every other dealer lets you do. You have to place an allocation and "hope" the dealer can get the car in the spec you want. They don't even have the Toyota reliability excuse to fall back on with the GR Corolla compared to the golf.
Best car review channel!!! Keep it up fellas!!
As long as Mark isn’t taking marriage classes from Garand Thumb, I think he’ll do just fine.
Huh? Wha happen?
You should join him
@@khonjel_singh ALLEGEDLY, Garand Thumb cheated on his second wife (he also allegedly cheated on his first wife) after grifting as a Christian “family man” for the past however many years.
@@njad3 I’ll pass, I know how to keep it in my pants
Scott from Kentucky Ballistics?
So, they made all of these changes to make it a more “track-focused” car, but have not actually fixed the major, dealbreaker problem for track use, the diff overheating assumed value issue? This car has so much potential but this is a very silly thing! The engineer basically said that they designed a $50,000 car for first-timers to do parade laps around a track.
I dont track but this turned me off the grc so I went to fl5
It's really bizzare. It can't be that difficult to fix. At least the Type R cooling issues can be addressed in the aftermarket...although I haven't needed to yet. I can run my FK8 9/10ths at Daytona for full 20 minute sessions without overheating. What's the point of dragging around an AWD system if it's FWD on track?
@@ryanmcfarland1900 Especially because it's a software thing. They could probably code it out!
@@SlowDriverSean They could probably code it out!
And promptly grenade the diff. Engineers didn't add that code to be a wet blanket. They know the mechanical limitations and added the fail safe in the ECU to keep the drivetrain from exploding.
The GRC is still built to a price point. And frankly, you get a lot for the money, 300HP, four doors, AWD, and good brakes. Sure, it can only handle 15 minutes of hot lapping, but that's better than a lot of cars, even "sporty" ones. If you track a car regularly enough that you need more seat time, it's probably time to upgrade to one of the other GR vehicles and leave the GRC for daily driver duty.
Man idk what it is with these cars but i LOVE THEM. I know theyre not the fastest but theyre so awesome. I pray i get to own one, one day
I obviously don't know your situation, but when I was in high school Honda announced the S2000 was coming. I worked hard for scholarships and made sacrifices like living with my parents through college. I got into a job that was paying OK, had no family, and lived in a modest apartment. All this to say I made choices to limit my expenditures and was able to buy my dream car - a used S2000. It was $24k in 2006 money, equivalent to just less than a brand new base GR Corolla in today's money. I kept the S2000 for a dozen years. You may or may not be able to do the same, but here's to hoping you can align your trajectory to allow the purchase of a GR Corolla in the not-too-distant future.
It’s a lot of fun good luck on your plan!
The one and only review we been waiting for
Love you always put initial D Eurobeat while full send on the track lol
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I dig the fact this transmission is an option. I injured my ankle and can’t drive a manual anymore. I like the idea of this over a Golf R, which I’ve never liked the brake feel of. Now if it were only like $40k loaded and it’d be on my short list, $50k is just a bit too much for me right now.
Fragile
50k is too much honestly for 300hp. Maybe if it was 400hp.
Get the mid trim. Only thing the top trim really adds is the carbon roof.
@@phatgringo2.0 you are an absolute knob
@@phatgringo2.0 quite literally why I can’t drive a manual 😂
The “poverty” model is $39,000.00? Jesus, I really must be beyond poor.
I find so cute how Americans think having to pay 1 year worth of their salary for a sports car is ridiculously expensive when in my country the cheapest, most decrepit shitbox is worth like 5 years the average income.
Don't get me wrong, You all have the right to complain as much as you want, I just find it funny as someone watching it from a 3rd world country haha.
@@DioTheGreatOne 👈😂 rather than engage in wealth envy, you should just look at LEGALLY immigrating to the US & participate in the purest form of capitalism to the extent that it survives under the current regime.
@@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings-m6x Not until I make sure Harris has lost the election.
No, you just haven't kept up with inflation. And the unmitigated greed of the corporations.
@@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings-m6x Can't, too poor to do that.
I am proud to own my GR Corolla manual......love it
The more the engineer says “Entry level sports car” the more I question paying a cent over $35K.
By that he meant for the type of driver that has limited or no track experience. It’s a forgiving car that wouldn’t bite a novice
@@jfishcake average new car costs $50.
Everyone who shops this car should ask if it's REALLY worth 10-15k more than an Elantra N. Obviously some parts are non-negotiable for certain buyers(AWD, Toyota badge, etc) but that's a pretty penny to pay for those features...
Yeah it's not a sports car in any way
Awd automatic hatchback.....🥱
Car enthusiasts need to stop living in 2015. $35K is entry-level in 2024.
Choosing this over the golf R at the same price would be crazy
I did. The golf R is more premium but doesn’t touch the fun of the GRC
now just imagin paying 70k for this....because that is how much it is here in canada
The Golf R is not a particularly fun car to drive though. It's a bunch of work just to make the steering feel and throttle response OK, why VW tune it to be so numb is a mystery. [You can go into the steering module with VCDS and turn off the overly aggressive pull-drift compensation filtering called "straight line running" to get some steering feel back; while there is not that much you can do about the silly time-delay algorithm VW programmed into the throttle, throttle controllers only mask it really. Both of these things (the most basic inputs/outputs being "wrong") would annoy enthusiasts a lot.]
This car is what I wanted the new Mazda 3 Turbo to be.
I think your $60,000+ gr corolla build has jaded you somewhat or taken away your realistic reference point for this car. For someone who has never driven a modified gr corolla, I’m sure these changes will be more pronounced or noticeable. Either way, thank you for producing this video and for asking all of these questions!
Kind of telling even with about double the price thrown at it, he still wasn’t impressed or happy with it
My 2024 just hit 40K miles. No issues what so ever. Haters will hate
Whats the highest mph you got up to
@@BlitzDragoon-with that username, you know he’s hypermiling his GR. 😂
@@BlitzDragoon- 130+ it does it easily
@TML34 well he should make videos on his expirence cause just saying it in the comments is just proving my point that the golf R is the better/safer route
@BlitzDragoon- I post on Reddit and Facebook. I'm rotating a GR and Type R both have 40K miles
Fantastic and very informative video!
I own a 24 GRC Premium, and my 2 concerns are the 85 mph corpo side problem and the transfer case cooling problem. It isnt even addressed yet for the cooling side of things, which has been a big talking point of owners and enthusiasts alike since the car came out. Im surprised they barely talked about it at all themselves here. If it's not even reading real current temps, just an assumption, surely they could start there?
They totally avoided it here. Bait and switch puff interview 😊
Its disappointing they didn't fix the diff issue. Sakamoto San pretty much said that it'll overheat for the same users. No sensor. Better cooling. I'll assume they re calibrated their model of load. Hopefully it means you can get a few more laps in.
A 3rd year build with a single issue of overheating and NO answer from Toyota on a response? Ridiculous that they can just dodge the question of a solution
9:38 Wish we had the GR Yaris or the fun wild factor of the Yaris. Sakamato-san confirmed they mean to keep the Corolla as a stable, easy to drive, less wild model
Ya that'd be fun, but unfortunately the sub-compact segment is dead in the US.
@@The_Stanman CAFE footprint rule would be very punitive against trying to sell a Yaris-sized car with a "large" 1.6 turbo engine, unfortunately (same for the Fiesta ST).
My wife just bought another hermes bag. Says I need to save up for another bag but I can buy a corolla. I guess this is it.
@@anotheran get an Hermes watch instead.
Get rid of the wife. Problem solved.
Dang. can't wait to divorce mine.
@@mesopotamian97you and me both!
@@mesopotamian97Damn dude, you look like the type of husband which asks Wife’s boyfriend if he can buy mid trim Minivan.
Stop with the soylent. No offence…
I would have preferred an automatic fire extinguisher and an automatic note on my display that i just lost my warranty when i cross the 85mph line
And yet the person who complained about this bought another one and didn't tell the *REAL* reason why Toyota denied his warranty. Coincidence?
May have been designed as an "Entry Level Sports Car" but the sales and marketing department got a hold of it and its now just shy of a Type R in price. Certainly not entry level attainable.
They said the same for the z it's a sports car for everyman. And it's starting around 38 and swells to 70
Love Jack, love in-depth reviews, love dog, 'ate 3-cyl, nearly $50k Corollas; simple as.
I'd keep the old sway bar with the new setup. Sounds like diff overheat remains the same. Even though I've been racing a long time, I think its still fun on and off track - just needs more rear rotation which is easy enough to change.
My hope is that the upcoming GRMN Corolla will alleviate most of the cooling issues. I feel the 2025 model is more of an update to the transmission kind of based from what I am seeing.
Awesome job Jack!
As someone w/ a messed up back and can no longer daily a manual, this is awesome news. People gatekeep and rant about poseurs (I used to) but this is a win for car lovers. The longer and more we can produce these awesome enthusiast machines the better. Might be my next daily but with a G70 it could be awhile.
To me, if you have a valid reason to not drive manual I get it. For me I'll drive manual until I die or lose limbs, but I don't judge others for getting an auto.
TBH its faster and it looks like they actually tried with this auto instead of just throwing in the same auto of a base corolla with slightly tuned shift mapping. These days autos only suck when nobody cared when they developed it.
My 2013 Evo X MR was 38,000 and it's still faster than this car. 295hp and 300ft lbs. I love this little car.
I'm trading in my Ram. Will this fit a whitetail deer in the back?
Idk them adding coolers is their way of saying we knew it overheated from the start but released it anyways.
Also, doesn’t sound like they fixed the overheating transfer case issue…I assume the auto will definitely have a less chance of overheating (if manual mode isn’t used) but still sounds like it wasn’t fixed. I guess we will see. Till then I’ll stick with my manual 24 GRC with fog lights 😎
With a refresh they had a chance to update the interior and change that $30 baby monitor looking head unit, but nah. You'll have to endure the rental car looking dashboard in your 50k car.
IMO They made the front uglier too.
Nobody is buying this for the screen
@@ShaiyanHossain That's neither her nor there. Toyota still could've updated and improved the interior, regardless if that's not the main reason why people buy this car.
@@ShaiyanHossain for 50k I am not sitting in the same interior as 20k Corolla, period.
@@stansid3326 all of the sport compacts in this price tier are based on economy cars
Who the frock cares?
$50k OTD for a Corolla is insane, idgaf anyone says 😂
This car is competitively priced with anything in its segment.
@@joncaseyclarywhat else is in its segment?
@@RobertOfStAlbans_ CtR, Elantra N, Golf R. If budget is your main goal the EN is a great deal. They are all good cars.
@@joncaseyclaryyou forgot the WRX TR
@@SuzukiKid400 I did
Interesting. That will help sales
Dude - great content as usual. These cars actually look great in person.
They did all that work to make it more track focused, but they'll void your warranty if you drive over 85 mph...
As much as like the GR Corolla, I like my basic Corolla SE hatchback.
$50K for a 3 cylinder is mental.
Hoping we will get an edgy one at some point. Proper cooling, more track oriented brakes and suspension tuning that isn’t so… dull?
The English was kicking his ass alil hit ...
But this is probably the only channel where you're going to get a actual questionnaire / interview from the actual engineer 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💯👍🏽😊
I still don't understand how you don't have more subs
Isn't SavageGeese already at saturation for people who are interested in technical deep dives into enthusiast vehicles? If you are interested in that, you'll already be watching SG. SG's subscriber base has grown considerably since 10-12 years ago when the videos averaged 10-20k views!
3cyl + turbo? What is the expected life of the engine, 80k km?
The laws of physics. You can bend them but they cannot be broken. On the other hand, it is a Toyota.
Jack's back! Thank God, I thought he was dead because he wasn't in the BMW video with the b58 MOTOR. Now I can stop "sitting shiva"!
Ah, bright and early right before I head to work. Savagegeese giving me something to look forward to again.
Stop it, you work from home
The dif issue was the final nail for me. I really, really wanted this car since the US didn't get the GR Yaris (and there's no WRX/STI in wagon/hatch form), but the value just isn't there when you look at what else you can get for the price.
I'm so glad I went with an OG M2 when cross shipping this.
Removing fog lights is always a mistake on any car
Should just do Tarmac /Gravel /Snow…… and keep them always variable depending on the type of terrain used. And maybe even a FWD mode…. So you can use a spare tire safely
Well Done.
Can it go 85 mph without voiding the warranty?
Not answered here so imho NOPE!!
It'll snitch on you too!! NAISE.
The tires are only rated to 186 mph, which means the engine will catch fire at 85 mph or above.
To answer your question; No.
definitely prefer an auto for daily with occasional track use
Not a bad update to this car. 0-60mph is around 6.7sec for the 8-speed automatic. I’d love for Acura to offer either their wonderful 8-speed DCT, or wonder 10-speed in the Integra Type-S.
it’s a civic. It would have a CVT lol
The corolla has gotten farther from what the corolla once was
Makes you wonder why it took so long for Toyota to bring the GR performance option. They realise the auto industry is in huge change and anything to extend current platforms is a win. I think at 50K this will struggle against the Golf R a more complete and proven package. But competition is always good.
Does the extra cooler prevent it from catching fire? 😅
It seems like Toyota is learning how to build Subaru’s SH AWD system from 2000s. Maybe Toyota should just work with STI and come out with a collaboration Corolla. It seems like they’ve learned so slowly. The rear differential tuning should be way more advanced than STI and Evo but yet it seems they just figured out. $45k car that barely outperforms a stock WRX
Still sounds like a solid vehicle. I would still go manual. I’m just about a year away from (most likely) selling my ‘13 wrx hatch and using those funds as a down on one of these-potentially.
Few thoughts on this.
The gr corolla stands as a hallmark of Toyota deliverying an in house sports option. I think they accomplished what they intended.
I do wish they would soup up the gr corolla more and then split a lower fwd lsd option with this motor and actually make it a civic si brawler. Arguably the civic si (forgive me chat but it's for the argument point) is the ideal babys first sports car. It's reliable. Simple. Under 30( (barely) and it has the driving dynamic attention from a team who cares about the driver/car interaction. Swelling to 50k isn't entry level that's almost day 2 or middle of the road. 50k is a mustang gt or a Nissan z.
My thoughts anyways
I'm grateful to see into 2025 we have some spunky ice cars. And we will still have them for at least a few more years
Need a comparison vs DCT Elantra N ASAP
I want one of these with 17 snow tires this winter so bad. I suspect the transfer case issues would melt away in snow driving. Roof rack and some skis ftw!
2 nit-picks, piano black on the interior needs to go, scratches easily and is super reflective, and all GRC's should have the bigger wing they offer. No GRC should have that dinky small wing.
Its a way to point out and make fun of someone for not getting a higher trim 😂
@@ShaiyanHossainyou still won’t get the bigger wing even with top trim. The Circuit Edition wing ended with the 2024
Damn you dropped this video just as I was rewatching most of the fine print series, it has been a while since the last one hasn't it?
Absolutely fantastic 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🏎️🏁
Great video Jack thanks❤
12:49 Toyota Raisin🍇
I have to wonder if the change from being a fixed 50:50 split in track mode is there way of not having to fix the issue of it going into FWD after a few laps. I think this may be the first 8sp auto I have ever seen where every single gear is an underdrive. Not even 8th gear is 1:1.
Doesn't orange bar have to appear for launch control?
I was wondering about that too. Didn’t even sound like launch control
$40‐$50k for a Corolla is insanity.
Is the civic type R overpriced as well? What car with this level of performance isn’t overpriced? Elantra N is your only go to and even Hyundai techs say it won’t last. The Toyota brand carries this car for sure. Hope they don’t let ppl down.
@@joncaseyclary yes, they all are. Car prices are absurd now across the board.
@@ALT3REDB3AST Prices are set to what the market will bear. Prices will be cut when a model can't sell as many units as the manufacturer intends to sell, like the Dodge Hornet having its prices slashed. AFAIK, being able to shift the small numbers of units Toyota intends to sell is not a huge issue with the GR Corolla at its current prices.
we, in south east Asia, WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE if this car costs $40-50K USD here. Check the price for car here in South East Asia, and you will be grateful you live in USA where car is cheap and income is high (also don't forget to check what is the average income here in South East Asia)
New wrx vb might make more sense as its got more space in the back, more comfortable, cheaper with more potential for tunning.
Is there a way to get the Toyota slides/powerpoint you referenced in the video? Because nerd.
someone posted them on the GR Corolla forum
@@pan4632 Thanks!
Wish acura put this much effort for their 10 speed manual mode😢
11:48 "Launch system unavailable" LOL
It's not a manual or a Honda so Mark probably would have just blindly s*** all over it lol 🤣
This car cannot compete with the Ridgeline pal.
85 this, fire that, interior blah. Haters gonna hate on something.
They still haven’t installed an armrest? I almost rented the plebeian spec of this car. Got into it a Hertz, got out immediately and went to another car. I can’t believe at this price they don’t have an armrest.
You get over it pretty quick. I thought I’d miss it but never have.
The 8 speed DCT in the I30N is the minimum standard at this price point, Torque converters just dont cut it.
I'm bothered by the story that a GR Corolla owner's car caught fire under the hood, and Toyota allegedly denied any warranty coverage due to third party records that the car had exceeded 85 mph. 85!
40k for this is ridiculous. If subaru can sell you a wrx for low 30s... This is ridiculous. This car will get cancelled soon enough anyway when dealers still mark up this thing and treat it as this monolithic super limited edition car...
Except that in its market and price point it’s still an amazing option with the Toyota brand behind it. There’s no dealers sitting on these. Toyota is selling the limited numbers they make as fast as they ship them. If it’s canceled it won’t be from lack of sales based on the 2023/2024 builds.
This is quite a bit better than a Subaru.
This car is more desirable than the WRX and the resale value on the used market reflects that.
There are *SO many corners cut* on the Subaru to achieve A low 30s base model! The interior with bargain basement rental car cloth, an engine lifted almost directly from the Subaru Ascent with negligible re-engineering, open front and rear differentials, the feeble Subaru 6-speed manual transmission instead of the Aisin 6-speed that used to come in the STi... When you get to a decently specced model with nice trim, Brembos, Recaros etc like the tS or TR it's mid to high 40's is it not (even though it still has the Subaru gearbox and not the better Aisin manual)?
@@MJ_868the WRX lineup from the base model to the TR has some of the best residuals in the industry. Better than the Corolla lineup.
I have only ever seen a single GR corolla on the streets in Orlando while I'm in my Type R and yet I see R's all over the place. I just don't think they hit this one out of the park, seems a bit lacking. I know it's a good car and all but perhaps a miss. I wish we could see a new Celica coupe come out with 300 plus HP. The GT86 just never did it for me, I want to see something a bit more powerful and still around 40k or less.
I can't remember seeing any GR Corollas aside from Toyota promo cars in Australia either. The GR Yaris was pretty common when it first launched with a $40k AUD ($26k USD) base model 4-5 years ago though.
@@TassieLorenzo yeah cause that's decently affordable
15:02 5 seconds penalty.
Did he say "affordable?"
The prices for these cars are pretty high, especially the Circuit Edition.
nearly 50k for that thing.
All things are relative. If it make you fell any better, last year's RAV4 Prime is 50k.
@@krane15 at least the RAV4 has a lot more uses. The GR Corolla is just a small, sporty hatchback with awd.
So how long do you have to wait to get a Circuit Edition this time? Still 1-3 years?
How about an eternity. Circuit Editions are discontinued. Perhaps wait for the GRMN edition if you will be able to stomach the inevitable markup
Gotta say, Mark looking like a real ladies man in this one🔥
50k for a corolla even a super hot hatch is pushing it. Id rather get a b58 powered M240i any day of the week for that money.
Nail ---> Head. Complete no-brainer on so many levels, 2 of which: BMW won't void your warranty for driving over 85mph & the level of bang-for-your-buck is way way in favor of the M240i now (especially since there's only Automatic transmissions)
Sakamoto San also owns/races a Miata.