I’ve had the Ioniq 6 for over 1 year and find the cameras are generally better than mirrors. More sensitive at night and better in the rain. I drive different cars and have no trouble going from one to another. I’m also older than most. The car is brilliant.
I also think so, and I’m somewhat surprised by the fact. I’ve had the car for 2 months, and it’s amazed me how well the camera has worked in rain-storms and slushy weather alike. And I’m sure most people won’t be convinced until they extensively try it out, which is likely never (most would opt for the mirrors)
Totally agree on digital/camera mirrors, as you say no depth of field, also if wet and other vehicles have headlights on then the lights cause flare in the image, so you can’t really see what’s coming up, and if a side of the vehicle is in heavy shade then you may not see too much either
Well Marek is talking about the Ioniq 6, and I suspect he has a relatively short time with it, however he straight away identifies a major issue with it, depth perception, now I will drive about 500 miles week, approx 800 km, in all weather conditions and at all times of day. Traditional mirrors work, camera mirrors are flawed, we don’t need to reinvent the wheel.
As a current Tesla owner, I want to like other EVs and I do, but I just can’t get over how much more expensive and less efficient other EVs are. Our Tesla model 3 rear wheel drive with the LFP battery averaged 13.8 kWh/100km over 9 months and 24,000 km. We paid $37k USD, and $25k USD after incentives (we live in Colorado and bought a discounted inventory car). We recently traded in our model 3 for a model Y LR dual motor. We paid $44.6k USD, $32K USD after incentives and it was also an inventory discounted car. Our Model Y has averaged 17.2 kWh/100 kms over 3,000 kms. The equivalent Hyundai/Kia costs $15k-$20k more when equally equipped than the equivalent Tesla and is much less efficient. I should note that our consumption figures include Colorado winter driving and highway driving at speeds up to 150km/h. I just can’t justify other EVs as much as I want to. 😢
Hi Dave, great input and a direct conclusion that You happen to have an outstanding nose for a good deal lol. That being said, I must ask - how's the suspension in the Teslas? I'm keen on looking into either a Model 3 or a Model Y but I'm a bit afraid of the stiff suspension, I have a 3 yo boy who's a bit sensitive when it comes to bumpy rides. We got a BMW iX3 and that one's fairly balanced between stiff and "boaty" suspension, from what I see online Tesla seems to be on the stiffer side. What's Your experience?
@@zaneverovati our model 3 was stiff but so fun to drive! We test drove a new model 3 and it is much improved in quality over ours and the suspension is better too. If you are in a place with good roads the new model 3 will be no problem. We went with a model Y because it has the comfort suspension. It is much more comfortable than our 3 but not nearly as fun to drive. Sacrifices have to be made. 🤷🏻♂️ If comfort is important, I think you will be fine in a new model 3, but with a child, I would go with a Y for practicality. The Y is much easier to get stuff and people in and out of. I also bet the refreshed model Y that is coming will be even better. 😉
@@davetravels9273 thank You for the quick response, as well as for a good summary on what to expect. I suppose a test drive of the refreshed Model 3 is to be postponed until the refreshed Model Y is released, then it's just a side-by-side comparison. As luck would have it, we've outgrown the need for a stroller and are about to acquire a front-facing child seat, so the sloping roofline and a bit more compact cabin of the Model 3 shouldn't pose an issue. I'm more keen on the Model 3 mostly due to its efficiency, but if the Model 3 is more comfortable while the ride comfort is even better than in a Model 3, I'd go for a Model Y then. Exciting times, just as they are incredible - Tesla keeping up with legacy owners in terms of build quality after less than 2 decades of mass production. Talk about continuous improvement. Wish You a great day, and many happy kilometres with Your cars.
It's disappointing that such good-looking/streamlined EVs get about 20 kWh per 100 km. I'm getting similar or better stats with my bricklike Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV...
Thanks for the review Marek. When car companies started focusing more on efficiency and environmental concerns this was the type of design I thought we were going to get. Instead we got them all producing the same, boring fat SUV shape. Kudos to Hyundai for at least trying something different. I am also not a fan of the digital side mirrors but at least it's an option. It seems like a lot of trouble for not very much gain. What I do like, however, is that the wheelbase is long enough that the wheel wells are away from the cabin. I'm hoping this car is at least successful enough for other makers to consider producing something similar.
The dumbest thing about the camera mirrors is that the displays are not on the sides of the dash. What's the point if your still have to move your head?
You should really drive one before judging … your arguments may have sense in theory but real life situations are totally different. I own an Ioniq 6 and literally took me 10 minutes to get used to the screens. Besides, all the additional help from blind spot monitoring etc, as pointed out in Marek ‘s review, help assessing the situation. One thing that Marek didn’t mention is how good they are at night on highway, for example, especially in bad weather conditions. The cameras don’t get wet and you always get a very good view, much better than a traditional mirror. All in all, it’s an optional, not to everyone’s taste, but I personally love mine and wouldn’t go back to a traditional mirror after having experienced my Ioniq 6
@mauri2117 comfort is in the butt of the beholder :) AFAIR this car on 20s wasn't as comfortable, as I'd like. I suspect it would have been better on 18s. Having said that, I realise wheel size is tied to trim levels. It's a paradox that if one wants the ultimate luxury on a given model, one usually has to sacrifice comfort.
@@MarekDrivesENGI’m not arguing that smaller wheels provide more comfort. What I’m trying to say is that when someone write “always buy the smallest wheel” that can be misleading because it gives potential buyers the impression that unless you go for the smallest wheels you’ll have an uncomfortable car, which isn’t true.
The IONIQ5 had a groundbreaking design when it appeared. The '6' looks pretty much the opposite to me, boring and dated - and weird. The rest of the car is not exactly a trendsetter either. Anyway it was a good review as usual.
Hi Marek, thanks for this lovely review...Same time, this whole week I been in....Poland. Łodz and other provinces....Seen no full electric cars at all, and only some quite old hybrids.... With today's tendency of electric cars sales dropped around the world, looks like we go back to normal cars....
I haven't been to Łódź in ages, so I can't tell, but there are quite a few EVs around Warsaw and Wrocław. That being said I don't expect EV sales to pick up around here. They are expensive, and they are a hassle to deal with, as infrastructure charging leaves a lot to be desired.
I like the design a lot. But I'm wondering what it would look like without that whale tail. I'm also thinking I'd like a shooting brake design more as it would give more luggage space and headroom. And while I'm thinking and wondering a lot, I think that the digital mirror images could all be stitched together onto the main rear view mirror. Now that would be kooky. Thanks Marek for a fun review!
TBH I think it was designed as a limo for Hyundai execs in markets, where Genesis is not available, so boot space wasn't a priority :) But a shooting brake would look good.
@MarekDrivesENG years ago my parents liked to use my S class but now it's just my kids I share with, yes I share, the seat only takes couple seconds to sort, it's the empty tank and rear view mirror that takes the time.
V2L is a huge deal! I didn t expect you to understand it, but I appreciate your mental gymnastics. If you have an offgrid cabin or camper trailer you can have a solar system without batteries, where the car is the battery
You're the first one to bring up an off-grid cabin. It's hard for me to think of every scenario. Luckily some scum broke a bottle in the middle of my filming location, so I found a way to use V2L :) I have solar, and I charge for free(ish). Also I have net metering, so I get to take back 80% of what i put into the grid.
Thanks. It sounds different depending on the device. On my monitor headphones the levels are even(ish). On my laptop speakers the music sounds too quiet, etc. Smart TV viewers complain about loud background music or uneven levels between talking head and voiceovers.
I had my hearing checked some 10 years ago, when I was getting a drone license (back then it was a full check-up in the aviation medical institute, but luckily without the centrifuge :) ) and I thought I aced it. The lady asked my age, looked at the results, and sighed disapprovingly. I blame it on open-face motorcycle helmet, and not the age 👍
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Actually, it looks like a SAAB 92.
Another great job. It surprises me every time how you don't have more subscribers. Cheers from Portugal 👏
Thank you so much 😀
I'm taking it slow :)
I’ve had the Ioniq 6 for over 1 year and find the cameras are generally better than mirrors.
More sensitive at night and better in the rain.
I drive different cars and have no trouble going from one to another.
I’m also older than most.
The car is brilliant.
I also think so, and I’m somewhat surprised by the fact. I’ve had the car for 2 months, and it’s amazed me how well the camera has worked in rain-storms and slushy weather alike. And I’m sure most people won’t be convinced until they extensively try it out, which is likely never (most would opt for the mirrors)
Hyundai went from cool in the IONIQ 5 to downright weird with this one. I really don't like it. Gives me that creepy Beetle vibe 😅😅
Totally agree on digital/camera mirrors, as you say no depth of field, also if wet and other vehicles have headlights on then the lights cause flare in the image, so you can’t really see what’s coming up, and if a side of the vehicle is in heavy shade then you may not see too much either
Actually, it doesn't get flare at all, you see way better in the dark, you cannot be blinded by Model Y's and to clean them it takes .5 seconds.
Well drive an ADL Enviro 400 bus and you will get flare, but the biggest problem is the lack of depth perception.
@@adamkeys1548 you know... I don't think busses use the same cameras as an ioniQ 6, as a Lotus, as an Audi, as a Mercedes New Actros, etc...
Well Marek is talking about the Ioniq 6, and I suspect he has a relatively short time with it, however he straight away identifies a major issue with it, depth perception, now I will drive about 500 miles week, approx 800 km, in all weather conditions and at all times of day. Traditional mirrors work, camera mirrors are flawed, we don’t need to reinvent the wheel.
As a current Tesla owner, I want to like other EVs and I do, but I just can’t get over how much more expensive and less efficient other EVs are. Our Tesla model 3 rear wheel drive with the LFP battery averaged 13.8 kWh/100km over 9 months and 24,000 km. We paid $37k USD, and $25k USD after incentives (we live in Colorado and bought a discounted inventory car). We recently traded in our model 3 for a model Y LR dual motor. We paid $44.6k USD, $32K USD after incentives and it was also an inventory discounted car. Our Model Y has averaged 17.2 kWh/100 kms over 3,000 kms. The equivalent Hyundai/Kia costs $15k-$20k more when equally equipped than the equivalent Tesla and is much less efficient. I should note that our consumption figures include Colorado winter driving and highway driving at speeds up to 150km/h. I just can’t justify other EVs as much as I want to. 😢
Hi Dave, great input and a direct conclusion that You happen to have an outstanding nose for a good deal lol. That being said, I must ask - how's the suspension in the Teslas? I'm keen on looking into either a Model 3 or a Model Y but I'm a bit afraid of the stiff suspension, I have a 3 yo boy who's a bit sensitive when it comes to bumpy rides. We got a BMW iX3 and that one's fairly balanced between stiff and "boaty" suspension, from what I see online Tesla seems to be on the stiffer side. What's Your experience?
@@zaneverovati our model 3 was stiff but so fun to drive! We test drove a new model 3 and it is much improved in quality over ours and the suspension is better too. If you are in a place with good roads the new model 3 will be no problem. We went with a model Y because it has the comfort suspension. It is much more comfortable than our 3 but not nearly as fun to drive. Sacrifices have to be made. 🤷🏻♂️ If comfort is important, I think you will be fine in a new model 3, but with a child, I would go with a Y for practicality. The Y is much easier to get stuff and people in and out of. I also bet the refreshed model Y that is coming will be even better. 😉
@@davetravels9273 thank You for the quick response, as well as for a good summary on what to expect. I suppose a test drive of the refreshed Model 3 is to be postponed until the refreshed Model Y is released, then it's just a side-by-side comparison. As luck would have it, we've outgrown the need for a stroller and are about to acquire a front-facing child seat, so the sloping roofline and a bit more compact cabin of the Model 3 shouldn't pose an issue. I'm more keen on the Model 3 mostly due to its efficiency, but if the Model 3 is more comfortable while the ride comfort is even better than in a Model 3, I'd go for a Model Y then. Exciting times, just as they are incredible - Tesla keeping up with legacy owners in terms of build quality after less than 2 decades of mass production. Talk about continuous improvement. Wish You a great day, and many happy kilometres with Your cars.
looks terrible
its like two car attached together
Has it been left out in the sun and melted
lol
Yep, looks like a dog pooping.
It's disappointing that such good-looking/streamlined EVs get about 20 kWh per 100 km. I'm getting similar or better stats with my bricklike Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV...
Winter, and I was a bit more frisky with this one.
Yeah, I like this car. I'm often drawn to whacky designs - this could be one of them
Thanks for the review Marek.
When car companies started focusing more on efficiency and environmental concerns this was the type of design I thought we were going to get. Instead we got them all producing the same, boring fat SUV shape. Kudos to Hyundai for at least trying something different.
I am also not a fan of the digital side mirrors but at least it's an option. It seems like a lot of trouble for not very much gain. What I do like, however, is that the wheelbase is long enough that the wheel wells are away from the cabin. I'm hoping this car is at least successful enough for other makers to consider producing something similar.
It’s ugly and has zero resale value. Period.
V2l would save me by powering a fridge in summer or a gas furnace in winter. Both of which can use 120v. (For power outages)
Do you experience power outages often?
The dumbest thing about the camera mirrors is that the displays are not on the sides of the dash. What's the point if your still have to move your head?
You should really drive one before judging … your arguments may have sense in theory but real life situations are totally different. I own an Ioniq 6 and literally took me 10 minutes to get used to the screens. Besides, all the additional help from blind spot monitoring etc, as pointed out in Marek ‘s review, help assessing the situation. One thing that Marek didn’t mention is how good they are at night on highway, for example, especially in bad weather conditions. The cameras don’t get wet and you always get a very good view, much better than a traditional mirror. All in all, it’s an optional, not to everyone’s taste, but I personally love mine and wouldn’t go back to a traditional mirror after having experienced my Ioniq 6
Absolutely never order the digital mirrors! Never! Always buy the smallest wheels possible
If you can afford to spend 60k on a brand new EV do you really need to look miserable wearing the smallest wheels just to get slightly better economy?
@mauri2117 screw economy. It's about comfort.
@@MarekDrivesENG my car is fitted with 20s and it’s comfortable. Even on shitty English roads
@mauri2117 comfort is in the butt of the beholder :)
AFAIR this car on 20s wasn't as comfortable, as I'd like. I suspect it would have been better on 18s.
Having said that, I realise wheel size is tied to trim levels. It's a paradox that if one wants the ultimate luxury on a given model, one usually has to sacrifice comfort.
@@MarekDrivesENGI’m not arguing that smaller wheels provide more comfort. What I’m trying to say is that when someone write “always buy the smallest wheel” that can be misleading because it gives potential buyers the impression that unless you go for the smallest wheels you’ll have an uncomfortable car, which isn’t true.
I still prefer the shape of the Ionic5 and agree the 6 looks like a merc and Porsche thrown together.
The IONIQ5 had a groundbreaking design when it appeared. The '6' looks pretty much the opposite to me, boring and dated - and weird. The rest of the car is not exactly a trendsetter either. Anyway it was a good review as usual.
Hi Marek, thanks for this lovely review...Same time, this whole week I been in....Poland. Łodz and other provinces....Seen no full electric cars at all, and only some quite old hybrids.... With today's tendency of electric cars sales dropped around the world, looks like we go back to normal cars....
I haven't been to Łódź in ages, so I can't tell, but there are quite a few EVs around Warsaw and Wrocław. That being said I don't expect EV sales to pick up around here. They are expensive, and they are a hassle to deal with, as infrastructure charging leaves a lot to be desired.
Side rear view cameras look futuristic. But...If some antisocial person will brake it, that will be very expensive fix.
Thank you for another comprehensive review. Yes, nice external design. Everything else, not for me.
It would be on the list if I was after an all electric.
I like the design a lot. But I'm wondering what it would look like without that whale tail. I'm also thinking I'd like a shooting brake design more as it would give more luggage space and headroom. And while I'm thinking and wondering a lot, I think that the digital mirror images could all be stitched together onto the main rear view mirror. Now that would be kooky. Thanks Marek for a fun review!
TBH I think it was designed as a limo for Hyundai execs in markets, where Genesis is not available, so boot space wasn't a priority :)
But a shooting brake would look good.
Ive had memory seats in cars for 35 years and never set one memory ever.
Are you the only driver or do you share the car with someone?
@MarekDrivesENG years ago my parents liked to use my S class but now it's just my kids I share with, yes I share, the seat only takes couple seconds to sort, it's the empty tank and rear view mirror that takes the time.
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V2L is a huge deal! I didn t expect you to understand it, but I appreciate your mental gymnastics. If you have an offgrid cabin or camper trailer you can have a solar system without batteries, where the car is the battery
OK, so in my world an off-grid cabin and an EV don't mix. Also an off-grid cabin (or a cabin period) is not something I need in my life :)
@@MarekDrivesENG It mixes if you have a big enough solar array, you drive for free.
Also, you make the reviews for your viewers or for yourself?
You're the first one to bring up an off-grid cabin. It's hard for me to think of every scenario. Luckily some scum broke a bottle in the middle of my filming location, so I found a way to use V2L :)
I have solar, and I charge for free(ish). Also I have net metering, so I get to take back 80% of what i put into the grid.
@@MarekDrivesENG My bad
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Great review as always but the changing background music is too loud and quite annoying.
Thanks.
It sounds different depending on the device. On my monitor headphones the levels are even(ish). On my laptop speakers the music sounds too quiet, etc. Smart TV viewers complain about loud background music or uneven levels between talking head and voiceovers.
@@MarekDrivesENG Thank you Marek. Or maybe I'm getting too old and my hearing too sensitive 😆😆😆 Kind regards to Warsaw from Northern Ireland. 🚙
I had my hearing checked some 10 years ago, when I was getting a drone license (back then it was a full check-up in the aviation medical institute, but luckily without the centrifuge :) ) and I thought I aced it. The lady asked my age, looked at the results, and sighed disapprovingly. I blame it on open-face motorcycle helmet, and not the age 👍
@@MarekDrivesENG It could be indeed. I assume that is why some bikers wear ear protection plugs these days. Have a great weekend 😀
Thanks, you too!
We loved both awd and rwd versions ..we d have one over Model 3 !
did you get your booster too?
other faken ev