Update - I've bought a SW150 and it's bloody marvellous! Just feathers in to bring out a wonderfully full and detailed bass where my otherwise good stand mounted speakers just run out of grunt. Placed it out of the way behind my listening position but provided I don't whack it up too high, the bass image comes out right along with the main soundstage. Excellent !
Can I do that wiring to my fosi audio v3? Or should I just hook the sub via line level input from my DAC and from sub line level output to my v3? Thanks
Crikey, that's a live room you've got it set up in! I'd have to put some rugs and drapes up to dampen things down a bit. Anyways, useful clip. A top to help set it up. You can buy an SPL meter off amazon for less than £20. Spotify qobuz amazon music all do a frequency sweep with a spoken scale, so that plus your ears will quickly work out where your speakers roll off. You want the sub to cut in around that frequency. In my room and speakers that about 40Hz, bear in mind room interaction is the biggest variable in hifi sound. You might, like me also have some other odd spikes, I've got a node at around 80Hz where the volume drops around 6-8dB which I can't fix with the sub, as the speaker port and room have a resonance around 55Hz which I don't want to boost any more. If you've hit the cash you can always set up an auto room correction using a phone app, sonos does this really well.
I find you it best to set the subwoofer volume while playing some average sort of music that you know how it should sound. Set the sub so it fills the bottom end the speakers don't cover. That gives a nice, natural sound. Obviously if you prefer the thump thump and to have that "I have a sub woofer" thing, then set it the way you like. I personally prefer natural. I have 2 SW-150's paired with a recently purchased set of Wharfedale Diamond 12.2's and they really work well together, complimenting the sound and giving that nice, fairly controlled bass. I do find the SW-150's tend to be a little lazy in their response. They don't give a real punch, it's a bit slower and a little lazier sounding, but not really cloudy or muddy.
you can use rca's with filters on them on the output you want about 211 Hz you could put it against the wall and flip the phase or have it pointing towards the speakers. If using the speaker terminals you smaller gauge wire 22 -24 gauge wire that looked about 16-gauge what you had
If you feed the ‘sub in’ with the signal direct from source, then send out to powered speakers, will the speakers only handle frequencies above what is set on the sub crossover? It would seem better to have only the sub handling lower frequencies, without the powered speakers also trying to drive down to there too, freeing up the speaker for higher frequency duties.
I have one of these still new In the box, as I didn't realize that It didn't have a Sub In, and my amp doesn't have a sub out (Like Yours). I have two of It's bigger brothers In the Cinema, and the Onyx amp can drive two at a time. 7.2. So going to try this and see what happens, thanks for sharing this. Fingers Crossed.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK I managed thanks. I got the walnut model. I listened to Fanfair for the common man for a quick sound test. Now i'm lstening to Dom Whiting in Darwin from 3 months ago. Worth a listen =) th-cam.com/video/SZGyi9km_6E/w-d-xo.html
How do I connect the subwoofer to the Marantz pm 6006? On the same row of terminals I put the speakers and subwoofer or on the top row I put the speakers and on the bottom row of terminals I put the subwoofer and press the AB button? Thank you.
Hello sir, jaz watch Ur video. So U can connect a subwoofer even speaker A and Speaker B can't play together? Please help Me out, as planning to hook up subwoofer on My vintage Pioneer sa 7000. Thank U
Hi, I want know whether the speaker level input only works on amplifier only or does it supports direct connected speakers, course mine in that input they are not responding at all connections
I was just trying that with RCA cable connected but i think you'll need it wired in like he has on this video. I wasnt getting any sound with RCA cable.
Great review! I’d been looking at this as my trusty old Mission760i’s are a bit light on the bass; but I can’t justify spending a fortune on a new set of decent floor standing speakers. I was confused about how to wire it into my amp which just has a single set of speaker terminals. Now clear as day, and for £150 as you say, it's got to be worth a punt. Just got to negotiate the spend and “another bloody box !” with the Domestic Director of Operations! Am I correct in assuming that placement isn't really an issue and I could bung it in a corner out of the way if necessary? Cheers mate 👍
Yeah got approval, after a little negotiation! 😂 It shouldn't really matter where you put it. It may sound a bit louder in a corner but you can just turn the volume down. Some people spend time crawling around on the floor with the subwoofer on a chair, trying to find the best spot! 🤦♂️
Hiya mate, just got myself same as yours [2nd hand] and again same that i have old technics SU-A909s/SU-C909u to connect with A + B speakers output. and watching another video with different connection intructions, parallel/series, this is to not to overload the ohms from your amp for 2 more sets of speakers. correct me , i might be wrong. love you energies of your video, CLASSIC.
just purchased this sub in mint condition for 40quid , noob question it has L & R input and output on back which one do i use when connecting to my amps sub socket? i guess i will need a cable with L&R going to a single input cable
You'll need a y cable with the single lead going into your sub output on your amp and the double going into the left and right input on the sub. amzn.to/3EdDdLN
Noob question here guys. My amp allows 2 pairs of speakers running in parallel at 8-16 ohms. If I ran my wharfedale 9.1s through this sub, then connected the sub to my amp. Could I then hook up a pair of 8 ohm speakers straight to the amp? I'm aware that my amp can only handle 4 ohms or above. Would the 9.1s be powered by the sub and therefore not affect the resistance? I'm worried I'm gonna break my amp
@@DarrenWhittington If second hand also listen for speaker rattle If you turn It up to loud. It will sound like a BUUUUURRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHH, means they drove It to much. Could explain the hum, as mine Is silent as well.
@@TheBudgie29 my ears start bleeding if I turn it too high, surprised that they can be driven too loud as they should be rated for their own amp. Just sold mine and gonna buy a cheap X201 from work
I have Edifier R2000DB speakers running through my PC with a Creative Sound-blaster Audigy internal soundcard. it pumps out a nice amount of good quality audio/volume. I'd like to add a Subwoofer to this setup but the Edifiers don't have a Subwoofer output at the back of the speakers although they do have a spare line in port. Could i run the Subwoofer directly out of the Soundcard from my PC is my basic question? Thanks to anyone who can answer.
Yes but it will be a bit convoluted. Since the Audigy uses mini DIN plugs, you'll need to get a mini DIN to RCA converter (jack or cable). Presumably your speakers use mini-DIN as well so you'll need to get a mini-DIN to dual mini DIN adapter, plugged into the "front out" port and from there to the speakers and sub. Problem is those adapters are horrible - I've never found a decent make. They cause awful distortion, feedback and hiss noise. I had the same problem and got an Asus Xonar Essence STXII card which comes with proper RCA outputs. This connects to a Marantz amp which in turn drives the speakers and sub. You might also want to skip all this and get a DAC /mini amp like the Fosi Audio Q4.
Hi The way the speakers are connected along the sub will create a drop in the overall impedance on the amp speaker circuit. Luckily it may work for some time but certainly it is creating an overload that with higher volume will cause sound distortion then may blow the amp. Good luck
The sub has speaker level inputs with a low-pass crossover. It won't bring down the ohms load on the amp. It also recommends this type of connection in the manual for amplifiers without a line level output.
why are music listeners using L.F.E Low freq. effects a movie standard coded into movies to be used by A.V.R.s how is this incorporated into 2 channel music? via L.F.E. In a 2 channel music system it's not stereo bass. line input in a 2 channel system is. now you'll hear a bass sound but what is it ? is lfe a movie code giving you a true stereo bass ? nope it wasnt designed to do that not in a 2 channel music sys. line out/in does plus in that application your sub becomes a low freq stereo trap.
I have a pioneer vsx 422k hdmi ARC and a Yamaha A-520 amplifier. Can I set this up exactly the same way? I was going to use a amplifier bridge module from jaycar electronics to bridge my Yamaha A-520 to get 150 watts RMS? Any reply appreciated? Cheers from Australia 🙂 subbed and liked 👍
Update - I've bought a SW150 and it's bloody marvellous!
Just feathers in to bring out a wonderfully full and detailed bass where my otherwise good stand mounted speakers just run out of grunt.
Placed it out of the way behind my listening position but provided I don't whack it up too high, the bass image comes out right along with the main soundstage. Excellent !
Used for a few years great sub. Interesting how the high level input connection was demonstrated learnt something new.
you are very enthusiastic great video love your personality and your hard work towards these videos
Thank you so much!
I've been looking at one of these on Amazon since the weekend, you've just convinced me to get one.
How’s it going for you? Been torn between this and the Q acoustic 3060
@@jonjamesbailey1375 I purchased one of the above two weeks ago, Unfortunately, I went into hospital and only got out Yesterday. So watch this space.
its a killer sub , had mine for about 3yrs with wharfedale AT-400 floorstanders =) on a Denon amp
Just received this sub for my setup based on this review.
Have you set ti up yet?
@@UTILITARIANTVUK not yet. It arrived about 30 minutes ago. But I am looking forward to hearing in with a set of 9.1’s
5:28 - I liked your way of expressing it 😀
Great video ! Ive got mine set up exactly as yours at 6:58. I didnt know how to tie it in with speakers, until I saw this. I used my ears ! Subbed.
Thanks, glad it helped.
this subwoofer is really good. was able to pick up one near enough new for £70 from FB marketplace
Just purchased this sub to compliment my bookshelf speakers. Thanks for the video. I've subscribed. Like your style. 😂👍🏻🔊
Thanks for the sub!
thanks for this, been pulling my hair out how to set mine up correctly
Excellent work!! Thanks for the tips
Thanks for playing an wonderful music 🎶
man, i love your energy...i subscribed within 10 seconds
Thank you!
Can I do that wiring to my fosi audio v3? Or should I just hook the sub via line level input from my DAC and from sub line level output to my v3? Thanks
Thanks, just bought a used model to have a play with. Have subbed.
Thanks 💪
Great review. I just brought this sub.. Love it.
Crikey, that's a live room you've got it set up in! I'd have to put some rugs and drapes up to dampen things down a bit. Anyways, useful clip. A top to help set it up. You can buy an SPL meter off amazon for less than £20. Spotify qobuz amazon music all do a frequency sweep with a spoken scale, so that plus your ears will quickly work out where your speakers roll off. You want the sub to cut in around that frequency. In my room and speakers that about 40Hz, bear in mind room interaction is the biggest variable in hifi sound. You might, like me also have some other odd spikes, I've got a node at around 80Hz where the volume drops around 6-8dB which I can't fix with the sub, as the speaker port and room have a resonance around 55Hz which I don't want to boost any more. If you've hit the cash you can always set up an auto room correction using a phone app, sonos does this really well.
Underrated channel. Awesome video mate 👍
Thanks!
Sounds very balanced to me, good video mate.
Thanks!
I had to give you a like for the cuddles lol great video 👍
I find you it best to set the subwoofer volume while playing some average sort of music that you know how it should sound. Set the sub so it fills the bottom end the speakers don't cover. That gives a nice, natural sound. Obviously if you prefer the thump thump and to have that "I have a sub woofer" thing, then set it the way you like. I personally prefer natural. I have 2 SW-150's paired with a recently purchased set of Wharfedale Diamond 12.2's and they really work well together, complimenting the sound and giving that nice, fairly controlled bass. I do find the SW-150's tend to be a little lazy in their response. They don't give a real punch, it's a bit slower and a little lazier sounding, but not really cloudy or muddy.
8 inch Edifier T5 might do give that extra punch....just ordered one over the WDsw150 for that very reason...I am that hoody.
you can use rca's with filters on them on the output you want about 211 Hz you could put it against the wall and flip the phase or have it pointing towards the speakers.
If using the speaker terminals you smaller gauge wire 22 -24 gauge wire that looked about 16-gauge what you had
Yes! No need to run thick wires into the subs 100+ ohm high-level input, as only ~1/16th or less of the total power goes to the sub.
Very informative,Thank you.
If you feed the ‘sub in’ with the signal direct from source, then send out to powered speakers, will the speakers only handle frequencies above what is set on the sub crossover? It would seem better to have only the sub handling lower frequencies, without the powered speakers also trying to drive down to there too, freeing up the speaker for higher frequency duties.
I have one of these still new In the box, as I didn't realize that It didn't have a Sub In, and my amp doesn't have a sub out (Like Yours). I have two of It's bigger brothers In the Cinema, and the Onyx amp can drive two at a time. 7.2. So going to try this and see what happens, thanks for sharing this. Fingers Crossed.
Nice. I just got one of these for my new Marantz pm6007.
I haven't connected it yet but any ideas as to how i take the grill/cover off?
I don't think it comes off on the newer models?
@@UTILITARIANTVUK I managed thanks. I got the walnut model. I listened to Fanfair for the common man for a quick sound test. Now i'm lstening to Dom Whiting in Darwin from 3 months ago. Worth a listen =)
th-cam.com/video/SZGyi9km_6E/w-d-xo.html
@@UTILITARIANTVUK I managed thanks.
I got the walnut model. It sounds and looks great =)
wow that tweeter is piercing my ears with my earbuds in
Ordered one today 🙌
How do I connect the subwoofer to the Marantz pm 6006? On the same row of terminals I put the speakers and subwoofer or on the top row I put the speakers and on the bottom row of terminals I put the subwoofer and press the AB button? Thank you.
Hi ,
Mix L-R to subwoofers.
Where are speaker go to ?
Hello. Tell me the characteristics of the speaker. I can not find. Or something that can replace it. Thanks.
Thanks for the tutorial.
Thinkinh of buying this, but on my amp I have 1 RCA SUB output. These speakers seem to have more than 1 RCA input. Any ideas please? Thanks.
Something like this amzn.to/4e20UGf
Hello sir, jaz watch Ur video. So U can connect a subwoofer even speaker A and Speaker B can't play together? Please help Me out, as planning to hook up subwoofer on My vintage Pioneer sa 7000. Thank U
Hi, I want know whether the speaker level input only works on amplifier only or does it supports direct connected speakers, course mine in that input they are not responding at all connections
Will the sub play at low volumes
Nice demo!!! Is it okay if i pair it with my bose s1 pro ?
I was just trying that with RCA cable connected but i think you'll need it wired in like he has on this video. I wasnt getting any sound with RCA cable.
Great review! I’d been looking at this as my trusty old Mission760i’s are a bit light on the bass; but I can’t justify spending a fortune on a new set of decent floor standing speakers. I was confused about how to wire it into my amp which just has a single set of speaker terminals.
Now clear as day, and for £150 as you say, it's got to be worth a punt. Just got to negotiate the spend and “another bloody box !” with the Domestic Director of Operations!
Am I correct in assuming that placement isn't really an issue and I could bung it in a corner out of the way if necessary?
Cheers mate 👍
Yeah got approval, after a little negotiation! 😂 It shouldn't really matter where you put it. It may sound a bit louder in a corner but you can just turn the volume down. Some people spend time crawling around on the floor with the subwoofer on a chair, trying to find the best spot! 🤦♂️
Great video! You sound like you live in South Wales 🏴
Yes I do! 👍
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Do you know anyone local to Cardiff that could re-foam a set of old kenwood speakers? They are not great but hold sentimental value.
@@Ben_Horne There's Peter Ellison Audio Services on Crwys Road. I've not used them so I can't say if they're any good or not?
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Will definitely look them up tomorrow. I think it’s an easy enough repair to do but wouldn’t want to risk it myself.
How do you hook this up to a AVR receiver in my case a "Denon-x1700h" with a single Subwoofer cable?
Just connect AVR to Subwoofer line IN using a single subwoofer RCA type cable. You can connect to either left or right.
Hiya mate, just got myself same as yours [2nd hand] and again same that i have old technics SU-A909s/SU-C909u to connect with A + B speakers output. and watching another video with different connection intructions, parallel/series, this is to not to overload the ohms from your amp for 2 more sets of speakers. correct me , i might be wrong. love you energies of your video, CLASSIC.
Sounds good but if you turn your amp up have you got to do the same on the sub
Depends on the amp but usually, most outputs are variable. This means the amp will raise and lower the volume on the sub.
just purchased this sub in mint condition for 40quid , noob question it has L & R input and output on back which one do i use when connecting to my amps sub socket? i guess i will need a cable with L&R going to a single input cable
You'll need a y cable with the single lead going into your sub output on your amp and the double going into the left and right input on the sub. amzn.to/3EdDdLN
@@UTILITARIANTVUK ty very much 👍 gave you a sub too
Noob question here guys. My amp allows 2 pairs of speakers running in parallel at 8-16 ohms.
If I ran my wharfedale 9.1s through this sub, then connected the sub to my amp. Could I then hook up a pair of 8 ohm speakers straight to the amp?
I'm aware that my amp can only handle 4 ohms or above. Would the 9.1s be powered by the sub and therefore not affect the resistance? I'm worried I'm gonna break my amp
What amp do you have?
@@UTILITARIANTVUK I have an old JVC AS-5
under the terminals it says it can run 8-16 ohms in parallel and 6-16 when only using speakers A or B
I’ve got one of these, I can here a low level hum from the transformer do you hear this from yours or is it completely silent?
Mines silent, no noticeable hum.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK will take a look at the caps then, was second hand
@@DarrenWhittington If second hand also listen for speaker rattle If you turn It up to loud. It will sound like a BUUUUURRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHH, means they drove It to much. Could explain the hum, as mine Is silent as well.
@@TheBudgie29 my ears start bleeding if I turn it too high, surprised that they can be driven too loud as they should be rated for their own amp. Just sold mine and gonna buy a cheap X201 from work
I have Edifier R2000DB speakers running through my PC with a Creative Sound-blaster Audigy internal soundcard. it pumps out a nice amount of good quality audio/volume. I'd like to add a Subwoofer to this setup but the Edifiers don't have a Subwoofer output at the back of the speakers although they do have a spare line in port. Could i run the Subwoofer directly out of the Soundcard from my PC is my basic question? Thanks to anyone who can answer.
Yes but it will be a bit convoluted. Since the Audigy uses mini DIN plugs, you'll need to get a mini DIN to RCA converter (jack or cable). Presumably your speakers use mini-DIN as well so you'll need to get a mini-DIN to dual mini DIN adapter, plugged into the "front out" port and from there to the speakers and sub. Problem is those adapters are horrible - I've never found a decent make. They cause awful distortion, feedback and hiss noise.
I had the same problem and got an Asus Xonar Essence STXII card which comes with proper RCA outputs. This connects to a Marantz amp which in turn drives the speakers and sub. You might also want to skip all this and get a DAC /mini amp like the Fosi Audio Q4.
Out of curiosity, why didn't you use the tape out to connect the sub ?
Presume it's because the line out is fixed volume
That's correct, if you turn up the volume of the amp, the sub will remain at the same volume.
Any port noise, shuffling ?
I didn't experience any.
hi whats the peak power of the sw150 i know the rms is 150 but i would like to know its peak power
None of the literature gives this info.
i found out its 2 times the rms
Hi
The way the speakers are connected along the sub will create a drop in the overall impedance on the amp speaker circuit. Luckily it may work for some time but certainly it is creating an overload that with higher volume will cause sound distortion then may blow the amp.
Good luck
The sub has speaker level inputs with a low-pass crossover. It won't bring down the ohms load on the amp. It also recommends this type of connection in the manual for amplifiers without a line level output.
This is actually the best way to connect to ensure the sub receives the same signal as the amp. Mine is connected exactly like this
Can i use may electric guitar to that set up?
Yes, but you'd need to get an adapter to connect your guitar lead to RCA.
nice one mate
Thanks 👍
You will find the main power relay fails in them, mine is just over 12 months old. Nice sounding Sub but beware.
ooohh! i forgot to ask you what is that little gadget on top of your amp.
It's a Bluetooth transmitter/receiver.
Are those the SX60s on the stands?
yes
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Nice.
Damn, I feel like I'm the only one having the Wharfedale SW300 sub lol coz I can't find any review on youtube for it.
No en tiendo TU idioma pero lo explicates Bien gracias
Muy apreciada 👍
👍👏🏻
Whot this woofer name
0:21
Jeff
Jeff
I must be deaf. I could hardly tell the difference between the sub off and on. And I tried twice.
Oh mate....bloody hell. Tickled me that did.
😃
why are music listeners using L.F.E
Low freq. effects a movie standard coded into movies to be used by A.V.R.s
how is this incorporated into 2 channel music?
via L.F.E.
In a 2 channel music system it's not stereo bass.
line input in a 2 channel system is. now you'll hear a bass sound but what is it ? is lfe a movie code giving you a true stereo bass ? nope it wasnt designed to do that not in a 2 channel music sys.
line out/in does plus in that application your sub becomes a low freq stereo trap.
Needs earphone in to hear the difference. Subtle
No sub on phone 😅
No difference b/n sub on & sub off
im gonna need the name of that dnb song at 5:30
Twelve Speed - Slynk th-cam.com/video/jsTEUi-kegE/w-d-xo.html
@@UTILITARIANTVUK thank you! Very helpful video btw, was thinking about buying one of these subs
I have a pioneer vsx 422k hdmi ARC and a Yamaha A-520 amplifier. Can I set this up exactly the same way? I was going to use a amplifier bridge module from jaycar electronics to bridge my Yamaha A-520 to get 150 watts RMS? Any reply appreciated? Cheers from Australia 🙂 subbed and liked 👍
I'd imagine you'd be able to set it up the same way.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK thanks for the quick reply 👍👍👍