WES CRAVEN'S ORIGINAL PLAN FOR SCREAM 5 | SCREAM

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  • We've known for some time that Wes Craven always intended on Scream 4 being part of a new trilogy. Dimension Films were so confident this would happen, they even signed up Kevin Williamson to pen Scream 4 & 5. So what went wrong? And what were Wes Craven's ORIGINAL plans for the new Scream trilogy. We discuss this and also highlight how the new Scream movie are attempting to honour Wes' legacy by attempting to do what couldn't be done in 2011.
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  • @michaelnealis1926
    @michaelnealis1926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +416

    I’ve heard that the original plan was that the hospital scene at the end of 4 would not exist, and it would end on a cliff hanger with Jill getting away with it, and not knowing who survived (Kirby or Sidney). Then in 5, they would both be revealed as alive, but Sidney would be suffering from amnesia and not remember that Jill was the killer. Jill and Kirby would be at college together, with a new killer who knows that Jill was behind it. That would be so interesting, and it’s a shame we never got to see it. It’s also a shame that there was never a proper conclusion to the tv series.

    • @stephenmcclellan7320
      @stephenmcclellan7320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Love this idea! Kinda brings a bit of IKWYDLS with the killer knowing a secret, and Jill could've even continued killing people in Scream 5 if they found out about her being the last killer, and she could use the new killer to cover her tracks by pinning the kills on them? Ugh, so much potential with this premise!

    • @michaelnealis1926
      @michaelnealis1926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stephenmcclellan7320 I know right!!

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      There's sort of a reference to that in 4 when Jill says "The real ending was supposed to be at the house. This is just silly."

    • @stephenmcclellan7320
      @stephenmcclellan7320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Xehanort10 "think of this as an alternate ending"

    • @canal.do.quintao
      @canal.do.quintao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Woow! That would be AMAZING!!

  • @shakethemDice123
    @shakethemDice123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I wish Scream 5 would have happened right after Scream 4, with Wes Craven’s original plan for it and Kevin Williamson original Script!

  • @quietkrys2705
    @quietkrys2705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Kirby taking over as the lead in the franchise would be pretty cool. It would've been new and Sydney's arc wouldn't be too milked if they written her off (at least temporarily). It could give the franchise a new story and a new way to go.

    • @bleeneo101
      @bleeneo101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's never too late

    • @ashleystubberfield3643
      @ashleystubberfield3643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The movie will always be about Sidney… that won’t change.. other wise the movies would suck and they would stop making them… scream 4 was the worst one, it sucked and so did all the characters

    • @quietkrys2705
      @quietkrys2705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ashleystubberfield3643 So by that logic Halloween 4 sucks because Laurie wasn't in it. If someone dumps on a movie because previous main character wasn't in it (even when their arc ended in the last movie) they're probably dumb as hell.

    • @ashleystubberfield3643
      @ashleystubberfield3643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quietkrys2705 no I like Halloween, I’m saying scream would be nothing without Sidney. She is what has made these movies. They wouldn’t have gone on if she wasn’t in them..

    • @benzo9059
      @benzo9059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ashleystubberfield3643 pretty subjective opinion that I don't think many will agree with that all the characters sucked, most people at the bare minimum loved Kirby.

  • @yinyangphoenix
    @yinyangphoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Jill was first shocked with the defibrillators (shock to the heart) and then shot in the heart, both by Sidney. She is DEAD. Kirby was still moving when we cut away, like Wes Craven said. It's credible that she died of her wounds, but it's equally believable that she lived. It even makes sense that Charlie couldn't kill her because he still loved her and that's why he walked away knowing she was still alive and moving on the ground. I would love for Kirby to return.

    • @dillonc1631
      @dillonc1631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope she’s in this movie! Kirby was that b*tch.

    • @destonholland5376
      @destonholland5376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yepp I agree Dewey always gets cut up and lives I thought for sure he was dead in scream 2 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @ijsxijijds8jcisj
      @ijsxijijds8jcisj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 years in the future but Kirby is in Scream 6 🙏🙏🙏

  • @patrickdempsy14
    @patrickdempsy14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    After seeing this I definitely think Kirby should have been the final girl for new franchise it is sad it didn’t come off

    • @user-fb4sb1zi8g
      @user-fb4sb1zi8g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes!

    • @_manofreal3133
      @_manofreal3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love her so much it hurts!!! 😭

    • @darricksmith403
      @darricksmith403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love Kirby but she’s the fun one the fun one always dies!

    • @yourmajesty2755
      @yourmajesty2755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is why y’all don’t write movies! Kirby should die .. she is not even related to Sidney .. wtf

    • @_manofreal3133
      @_manofreal3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@yourmajesty2755 you don't have to be related to Sydney fool. The whole point is Kirby was in relations to JILL AND ROBBY. she'd have continued a new chapter.

  • @lostlifevids
    @lostlifevids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I would’ve liked to see Kirby be our final girl for at least one film. I think she would’ve made a unique final girl because of her personality and I think Hayden couldve pull off the emotional scenes necessary to maybe even connect to Sydney’s character. We could’ve seen that in a sincere way to contrast the insincerity of Jill in the last movie.

    • @scottchaison1001
      @scottchaison1001 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @valysheev
      @valysheev ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@scottchaison1001 great reasoning Scott very helpful ffs

  • @megcollier3588
    @megcollier3588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Kirby is the final girl we never got 😢

    • @ryanarmitage872
      @ryanarmitage872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Was it confirmed that Kirby actually died? Imagine if she’s the killer of the new scream

    • @Dlatsch1
      @Dlatsch1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ryanarmitage872 Wes craven said on the scream 4 commentary- that we never see Kirby stop breathing

    • @TroyM777
      @TroyM777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We didn’t get her standing in the end, but she SURVIVED according to the new movie leaving her part wide open to come back like Sidney and Gale.

    • @BMW9661
      @BMW9661 ปีที่แล้ว

      And now she's back from Scream 6 so she very well may be the new final girl (Tara second).

  • @lucascarter5595
    @lucascarter5595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Kirby was such a good character and Hayden had one of the BEST scenes in the franchise and knocked it out of the park. I need Kirby to come back!

    • @larsludvigsen6843
      @larsludvigsen6843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I totally agree! I assume you mean the intense basement scene where she talks to ghostface on the phone? Soo good

    • @VerneditheSnail
      @VerneditheSnail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kirby survived, according to an Easter Egg in the awful 2022 film.

  • @IndigoPhoenix21
    @IndigoPhoenix21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Jill and Kirby are almost universally considered the most interesting additions to Scream 4, so it would have been cool to see Kirby's life explored. Funny enough, if she survived, she would have been given everything Jill wanted, fame, adoration, sympathy, fans. Jill's plan would have worked, just not for her.

  • @bulldogg2317
    @bulldogg2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It was actually Kevin Williamson who came up with the idea of a new trilogy and pitched it first to Wes Craven then the Weinstein brothers and they green lighted Scream 4. But problem is Williamson wrote the script and turned it over to the production company and Wes to make it happen and he went back to focusing on his TV shows at the time. And it was actually the Weinsteins who changed the ending to Scream 4 with the hospital scene that wasn't in Kevin's script and it didn't set up Scream 5 the way he had originally planned it to.
    That's why he never finished the next script for them to produce and the Weinstein company also no longer wanted to make the movies either. Hence why It's been on the shelf for 10 years.

    • @FuzzyDlop
      @FuzzyDlop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not correct. Kevin pitched a new trilogy years before Scream 4 but his problems with the studio were always there. Kevin NEVER finished writing the script and went back to his tv show. Kevin was promised things by the studio and they didn't keep their promises just like what happened before Scream 3. You can actually tell which scenes, dialogues and characters are mostly Kevin's in Scream 4 and which ones are not.

    • @bulldogg2317
      @bulldogg2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FuzzyDlop well yeah there were a lot of rewrites, done by Ehren Kruger but they had a finished script from Kevin they just changed it

  • @JJ-kj6ly
    @JJ-kj6ly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Wes was deliberate in EVERYTHING. Hell, he reshot Dewey’s scenes so he’d survive for the second because he loved the character. I could tell he had a soft spot for Kirby in how she was presented. I was hopeful she’d come back because she really was the bright spot in Scream 4 and even though they aren’t doing this, I’m glad the thought was there.

    • @jorgegodoy6824
      @jorgegodoy6824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Craven always loved his characters so much and knew what to do with them. Actually in Dream Warriors he never wanted Nancy to be killed by the end.

  • @emilym4358
    @emilym4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Scream 4 was my favourite (after the OG). It was a really solid cast, it’s a shame it didn’t do well, especially when you watch it after the fact.
    I’m not convinced on the new cast, and I’m really hoping there’s space for Wes’s original intentions to happen if not in 5 then in a scream 6 with Kirby. I can see such an awesome potential dynamic with her/Sidney/Gale.

    • @aprylwalk6887
      @aprylwalk6887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scream 4 was horrible I’m sorry but it wasn’t great, 1 and 2 were the best, 3 was just all over the place and scream 4 never should of been, idk this already looks. Enter than 4 but we will have to see, I think Sydney should get killed off, either way I’m going to watch it in theatres

    • @KillDozer44
      @KillDozer44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aprylwalk6887 are you high

    • @Skdndnsmsm
      @Skdndnsmsm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aprylwalk6887 scream 4 will always be next to the OG and scream 4 had the best revelation of killer on jill character

    • @all-in9365
      @all-in9365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aprylwalk6887 sorry scream 4 was good, scream 3 is the only weak one

    • @duchessravenwaves2834
      @duchessravenwaves2834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think scream 2 was the absolute worse. All the death scenes were cringe. Only good one and the best part of the whole movie was Sarah Michelle Gellar, who had about 15mins of screen time.

  • @HorrorParadise
    @HorrorParadise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    If there's one thing some people back then even now need to take into consideration it's how no one is ever considered "canon" dead officially unless we see a body. At least it wasn't a cutaway with her like Steve.

    • @FuckYou3700
      @FuckYou3700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. How can we be so sure Stu died from the tv?

    • @geoffmoore1828
      @geoffmoore1828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because if all of the broken glass severing arteries and the whole electrocution thing… Stu is dead. It’s why Wes ditched the idea of him coming back for scream 3

    • @osnapitzyomar
      @osnapitzyomar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geoffmoore1828 it was actually because the columbine school massacre happened while he was writing the story, stu was going to kill a bunch of high school kids in that version, but once columbine happened they scrapped it

    • @cancerthecrab
      @cancerthecrab ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FuckYou3700 no that would be an onscreen death if you pay attention...Stu gets stabbed about 10 times before that. Sooo he's dead

    • @cancerthecrab
      @cancerthecrab ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently people haven't seen the unrated version that shows him getting stabbed many times, over and over.

  • @Aphrodite-1989
    @Aphrodite-1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Kirby is my favourite character outside of Sidney. I would have loved to see Kirby come back

    • @jamespope7669
      @jamespope7669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kirby's dead, in Ghostface heaven with Randy and Stu

    • @jamespope7669
      @jamespope7669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lilly Wells she won't, she's dead.

    • @CarrieP1981
      @CarrieP1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamespope7669 We don't know that because you never see her die in Scream 4, not is it said. Even Wes Craven commented on it that she's still breathing and moving around the last time she's seen. So she could very well be alive. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @jamespope7669
      @jamespope7669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CarrieP1981 not possible. Wes Craven is dead.

  • @robertodegooijer5714
    @robertodegooijer5714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Jill as An ex-ghostface being stalked by new Ghostfaces would have been soooo cool. All the possibilities and situations coming from this. Also knowing she stands her own and knowing how to think as the killer, maybe even taking on the role of hero, with a very dark past.

    • @Icybubba
      @Icybubba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jill could still be alive, she was shot in the chest in a hospital and since when has a Ghostface ever died from getting shot in the chest? Plus she was in the hospital. Even if not in 5 they could bring her back for 6 maybe she's in like an asylum or something

    • @TheAmazingAdam
      @TheAmazingAdam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This was an idea I've toyed with. Why hasn't Scream, Movie or TV Series, ever done where the Ghostface is successful, then gets stalked by a new ghostface? That would of been amazing and I really enjoyed Jill as a menacing villain. She was scary. The scariest Ghostface since Billy imo.

  • @cherrydarling7937
    @cherrydarling7937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I really liked Scream 4, I thought it was slightly scarier than the previous ones, it stands on it's own

    • @dillonc1631
      @dillonc1631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. It’s my favorite horror movie besides Halloween 1978.

    • @jakecanten3246
      @jakecanten3246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Scream 1 and scream 4 are the best in the franchise

    • @jiyama
      @jiyama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      if they made a remaster with better lighting, color grading and lessen the blur if itd be awesome

    • @Youngleezy1989
      @Youngleezy1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakecanten3246 no

    • @jakecanten3246
      @jakecanten3246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Youngleezy1989 let me guess, you like Scream 3

  • @ghostfacestreet6523
    @ghostfacestreet6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beyond the Mask is the GOAT of scream content on TH-cam

  • @joshuahamilton2441
    @joshuahamilton2441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Thank you so much for posting things like this instead of constant spoiler videos.
    That being said, I would love to see what they came up with, but I am definitely more excited for Scream 2022.

  • @efenege2
    @efenege2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Scream 4 originally will end in a cliffhanger,.. after Jill is taken to the hospital surrounded by reporters (as we saw at the film) the police found another girl alive in Charlie's house, Dewey and Gale wondered about if Sidney is one of the survivors, a lot of people came to the conclusion that the survivor was Kirby and I love that theory because Jill wanted fame by herself and she would be really pissed off when she found out that another final girl steals her thunder.. as audience we know about Jill as a killer but I think Scream 5 will jump many years ahead from Scream 4 and both girls would be in another scenario in their lives, specially Kirby, perhaps Jill would become famous but Kirby wants to remain anonymous. Another murders would happen around Kirby and she and Gale Weathers at the end find out that Jill is behind these new murders by recruiting new Ghostface killers, sadly Dewey dies and the next chapter is the revenge of Kirby against Jill.. those were my ideas for Scream 5 and 6... hope this new film brings new ideas for the next chapters of the saga

  • @camlivani85
    @camlivani85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Craven said that Scream 5 would follow "ghosts that haunt the family of Sidney Prescott".

  • @sandragoth8293
    @sandragoth8293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Jill should have stayed dead and Kirby should have been our new final girl

    • @dench2695
      @dench2695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @fantasoda487
      @fantasoda487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dench2695 Yes.

    • @hbbheartbreakrecords6897
      @hbbheartbreakrecords6897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      jill is dead
      she did stay dead

    • @fantasoda487
      @fantasoda487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hbbheartbreakrecords6897 Wes said that she could have been a possible survivor, that’s why they didn’t go for the headshot in the ending of part 4

    • @osnapitzyomar
      @osnapitzyomar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fantasoda487 RIGHT CUS IN EVERY OTHER MOVIE THEY DOOO

  • @danwarner7816
    @danwarner7816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yeah having Kirby back would be great, i think it more likely lean on future spin offs of the series. Since the scream series were always focus on Sidney Prescott and her group from Woodsboro. i like Kirby taking central role, as it make for some surprising situations, while she is unaware of how horror films work and her being sole survivor would be interesting story to see

  • @tifferzturner
    @tifferzturner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish Kirby did survive .. I would’ve loved to see her return for the new movie ! She was my favourite character from scream 4 .. I guess we will see what happens .. anything can happen when it comes to Wes Craven movies ! R.I.P Wes ❤️

  • @justineharper3346
    @justineharper3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really hope that Kirby is still alive and comes back at some point. I think it’s the general consensus that she was best new character.

  • @TheAmazingAdam
    @TheAmazingAdam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love Jill and Kirby. Jill was such a menacing villain. I thought the Scream 4 ending should of been better.

  • @arielperez3613
    @arielperez3613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I honestly don’t get the hate for scream 4, I really loved it

    • @larsludvigsen6843
      @larsludvigsen6843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like most Scream fans really like it? I know I do

    • @WallofJohn
      @WallofJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoyed the twist

    • @WallofJohn
      @WallofJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larsludvigsen6843 yea agreed most scream fans

    • @jeremiah007
      @jeremiah007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too! Just thought the hospital scene was perhaps a bit long

    • @justineharper3346
      @justineharper3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really enjoyed it as well. It’s my second favorite after the OG

  • @SubinSerezka
    @SubinSerezka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagining that the fifth film develops immediately after the events of the fourth, I always wanted Jill to kill someone like Bell killed Paquin. Wanted this scene for the fifth movie. Towards the end, when she decides to act and stage a new third act.
    And, of course, the confrontation between Jill and Kirby - this is what I would expect from such a fifth part.

  • @knday
    @knday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have like the idea of Jill surviving and not being caught. Like Dewey suggested Sidney might not remember what happened, and of course Kirby surviving. Having Kirby unknowingly still being friends with Jill. Maybe Scream 5 could have started with Jill deciding she didn't like sharing final girl status with Kirby, finding a new fall guy/girl, and with the killings starting again Sidney starts to remember. Also, a surviving ghost face would be different, could be cool.

  • @leamason9006
    @leamason9006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favourite horror youtuber

  • @kallo.patrik
    @kallo.patrik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I always find so cruel to Kirby gets one stab and she’s dead meanwhile sidney get a lotof stab and kick and she survived…

    • @abrimfulofasha
      @abrimfulofasha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      All depends where you Stab someone. Kirbys might have been more fatal. I don't think kirbys dead though.

    • @mightybitchy
      @mightybitchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@abrimfulofasha She bled out on the floor. She was clearly stabbed in a vital organ…

    • @abrimfulofasha
      @abrimfulofasha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mightybitchy you never saw her die though and it wasn't announced she were dead

    • @charmedtommo8995
      @charmedtommo8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kirby got stabbed multiple times…

    • @omarslayz
      @omarslayz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@charmedtommo8995 she got stabbed once in the lower part of the gut or in her stomach, it’s more fatal if you get stabbed in the chest cause the heart and lungs and other systems are there whereas the stomach there’s more of a chance of survival

  • @_manofreal3133
    @_manofreal3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After just watching Someone's In Your House- it's HARD to come close to the gold that is scream. I strongly believe this movie is going to blow our socks off. That's my high hopes.

  • @qkqp
    @qkqp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s hard to really suggest whether Scream 4 would have done well otherwise, but one thing that I really do believe hurt it’s chances of doing well in the box office was it opened the same weekend as Rio-a family movie! Kid movies almost ALWAYS make more money! Because 1. It’s parents taking their kids (more ticket money) & they generally have a wider appeal. Not everyone does Horror. And they released it in April which is more of an Easter and summer anticipation season. They should have either 1. Released Scream 4 during the Fall during spooky season OR if they wanted to release it after that time period, they should have went with a release date where it didn’t have much competition; especially not with a family friendly movie!

  • @Bruue2011
    @Bruue2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Speaking of the upcoming trailer… am I the only one who thinks they’re gonna release it either in the theaters for the 25th anniversary/ when Halloween kills gets released?

  • @steviecapone
    @steviecapone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I definitely wanted Kirby to be the star and new final girl of Scream 5 & 6.

  • @amymelton4782
    @amymelton4782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would have loved to see Kirby. I would still love it. I wish she was written in Scream 5. But either way, I'm so excited for this movie!!

  • @bleeneo101
    @bleeneo101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect admiration and nothing but love for the man. Rest in peace forever legend. It was an honor and one of the greatest moments of my life meeting you. Thank you for it all 🙏 Salute to Wes Craven ❤️

  • @FuzzyDlop
    @FuzzyDlop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wes Craven never decided anything when it came to Scream as Scream was Kevin Williamson's creation. Craven was brought in for Scream on his request. There was no actual plan for Scream 4 to be part of a new trilogy because Kevin had a lot of doubts regarding the studio just like he did 10 years earlier. And he was right as the studio pissed off Kevin over again while he was writing the script(which is why he didnt' finish the script) just like they pissed him off over before Scream 3. Kevin had plans, not Wes Craven. But the studio screwed up in a big way by wanting to having control of the script and the characters.

  • @bsrdagoat2320
    @bsrdagoat2320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the consistency my guy keep up the hardwork 💪🏾💪🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @snowpriors
    @snowpriors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i saw kirby and almost screamed because her cell phone scene from scream 4 imo is sooo good her character was very intriguing as well

  • @mellmurder
    @mellmurder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No more Jill plz. Kirby is welcome.

  • @daveyleeriot
    @daveyleeriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remake, Reboot, Relaunch, I've grown to hate Re-everything in horror bc it's not innovative. Nobody wanna create their own product. They'd rather just "add their own spin" to something that already has a solid fanbase.

  • @randybadthomas
    @randybadthomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kirby was what everyone wanted to see it would make sense to keep Kirby around

  • @putacia
    @putacia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish we would of gotten A 5 & 6!! Cause I loved the 4th one !

  • @pensacolian211
    @pensacolian211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't want a trailer, and have no intention of watching any. I'm going into this movie cold. Trailers give too much away. The second this movie was announced I was already in. No need to hook me. I've been hooked for the past 25 years.

  • @sykoticwolf
    @sykoticwolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the film actually ended with Jill getting carried out the house by the paramedics and the popparazzi making us believe for once that the ghostface killer won, only for in 5 for it to be realized syndey survived. Idk woulda been dope

  • @robertboot850
    @robertboot850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally... I love all the scream films, and knowing small details makes it that much more enjoyable to watch. The biggest hook for me is the "who done it" I love a murder mystery. The movie references are just a little bonus. I also like when a film can make you think... what would I do in that situation???

  • @dianastc3710
    @dianastc3710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I watch your videos the more I want this movie to come out

  • @freecstyle4784
    @freecstyle4784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Interesting! About the reboot subject it makes since as to why 4 didn't do well. But I'm still pumped. I owe my my whole horror liking to the franchise. Withough Scream I wouod know the other classics. Jason. Freddy. Michael. Chucky. Pinhead and so on.

    • @21kburd
      @21kburd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Edit your comment before it's too late brother.

    • @caneimcdonald9226
      @caneimcdonald9226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. Because of the Scream franchise, i'm mostly a slasher movie fan!!

    • @spookyboi339
      @spookyboi339 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @FreeCStyle it ain’t a reboot xo

  • @autumnwind1216
    @autumnwind1216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm fine with the part 4 we got. It's my 2nd favorite in the series. Though the idea of Jill surviving & a new killer tormenting her knowing her secret would have been awesome. Too bad.

  • @bggsz4
    @bggsz4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jill being alive in an asylum, and escaping to kill would've been pretty stupid. There's no element of surprise, it strays away from what the Scream franchise has established itself to be, plus it would only be a secret if they kept her status unknown till the end of the movie when the killer is unmasked, but even then it would've been an "oh, we forgot to mention, she's still alive" moment, which just feels like a ridiculous movie plot twist. The reason the Ghostface reveals work is that we see the killer/s as a normal everyday individual among the rest of the characters and not just some hidden villain that appears physically without the mask in one scene. That's why Scream 3's reveal didn't work out much because Roman was nowhere in the movie, he wasn't important, just pushed in randomly until that final scene. Jill's Ghostface reveal was the best in the franchise in my opinion, because thinking about it shows how obvious it was that she's the killer, but when watching Scream 4 the first time, you have no clue it's her. Billy's reveal didn't work as an element of surprise for me because it was so obvious.

  • @ethandoyle4978
    @ethandoyle4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know about Jill , but I has some slight hope that Kirby is still alive and is in hiding with help from Sidney and Dewey.

  • @play-doh5863
    @play-doh5863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever I hear Kirby, I think of the little pink amoeba Nintendo guy

  • @stevensordoni8450
    @stevensordoni8450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If Kirby was alive and came back as a surprise for 5 I would be over the moon about it!!!

  • @filmgoblin5016
    @filmgoblin5016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I think part of the reason why scream 4 didn’t do to well in theaters is because it didn’t really have good marketing. I remember I didn’t even know there was a 4th film coming out at the time until after it had left theaters and was confused why I didn’t hear or know about it? It was odd to me at the time. And maybe because people just didn’t seem to have much interest because it was like 11 years after the 3rd movie which was controversial but feel like it’s gotten a lot more appreciation over the years. And maybe because of bad word of mouth that 4th movie wasn’t good and that people didn’t like the younger cast taking over. It was a odd time for movies back in 2011.

  • @bluehoneyfields112
    @bluehoneyfields112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im really hoping that kirby will be coming back for scream 2022 and it'll be the big reveal for when the trailer is finally released.

  • @Hi-on8nz
    @Hi-on8nz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It would be funny if Jill would be the killer and come back and be like “you should have went for the head.”

    • @legohorrorvideos
      @legohorrorvideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love that haha!

    • @shanedavis3189
      @shanedavis3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jill was the sexiest female ghostface lol you know who I think would make an excellent ghost face ? Avril Lavigne lol I have an ending for you , the reporter left for dead in the news van comes to , stumbles upon a stack of Every Avril Lavigne album on CD , Ghostface reveals himself and it's Avril , she's Billy Loomis' cousin lol and so Gale interviews her exclusively and in through the door bursts Sid , and she's all like ghetto on Avril and asks her why'd you have to go and make things so complicated ? Lol sorry Avril yes I'm losing grip lol

  • @nicksmyth8531
    @nicksmyth8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow David Arquette really gave away a lot in that last clip there lol

  • @Layziemuzik
    @Layziemuzik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kirby definitely could have survived. Look how many times Dewey was stabbed. Especially in Scream 2.

  • @Jackles22
    @Jackles22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Would love to have seen a new set of 3 films whilst keeping the 3 originals. Unlike many other horror films what’s so great about the scream films is the three original loved characters Sydney, Duey and Gail have all survived so killing them now would be a shame but it’s going to happen sooner or later to really get the deep emotion of the major Scream fans.
    Other than Judy who is returning for Scream 2022 no other characters from Scream 4 are returning so they have a real chance to really give it a go for this time round.
    Keeping Kirby would have been a fantastic idea (is there any chance she is going to be in it and this news just some how hasn’t been leaked) she was such a strong stand out role and she acted the part brilliantly but perhaps she will appear alive in the scream 6 film instead.
    Another few characters I would have loved to of seen in Scream 5 was Mark Kincaid. We haven’t heard of what happened to him….also another appearance of Martha Meeks or another member of Randy’s family.
    Really looking forward to seeing the upcoming trailer and look forward to your video on this as really getting into them you’ve done a fantastic job putting them together bro.

    • @danielowens2887
      @danielowens2887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Randy wife will apear in scream 5

    • @jayerm
      @jayerm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielowens2887 Randy didn't have a wife but I did hear that his sister would be in the new one.

    • @aryakamalie9669
      @aryakamalie9669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      randy’s sister + his niece and nephew will be in scream 5

    • @-.-.11
      @-.-.11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayerm That’s the joke. We didn’t know he had a sister until scream 3.

  • @danielowens2887
    @danielowens2887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think kirby not dying would been awesome but then who would try to kill her or sydney at this point in scream 5 if they have continued the triology

  • @dreambliss1048
    @dreambliss1048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want Kirby back ASAP no questions asked and no no’s she was the best and I hope she’s in this new scream movie as a surprise by not telling the fans she’s in it 😢😢😢

  • @weightycarlos
    @weightycarlos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kirby should’ve been brought back 😞

  • @scottwalker5379
    @scottwalker5379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Kirby is alive because we don't see her body and there is no evidence that she is dead can please do more videos about Stu please

  • @alexteasdale4599
    @alexteasdale4599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously can not wait for this one.!!!! Sidney has gotten better with age, looking hot.!!

  • @CodstersCamera
    @CodstersCamera 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i didn’t realize until today that the same actress that plays Kirby is also Sam from Until Dawn

  • @silmarilion2667
    @silmarilion2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wouldve loved for kirby to return. always believed she survived

  • @DeshayZion-ow2lj
    @DeshayZion-ow2lj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We should get Kevin’s timeline for scream 7 & Wes for 8, it’s a win win for everyone with dewy, hicks and kirby are alive again, the ogs including Sydney are back. I think I’d do great this time around

  • @TheGatuzomax
    @TheGatuzomax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly. Kirby’s mention in 5 probably sets the path for her on the 6th. 🤞🏻

  • @isaiahm6005
    @isaiahm6005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree! SCREAM 4 unfortunately came out at the wrong time.
    Oddly enough, there’s so much hype around SCREAM 5! We’re all here because we love the franchise but to be completely honest, I’ve never felt like many people appreciated or even respected SCREAM.
    I have younger brothers and apparently there is so much hype on social media (mainly tik tok) over this new movie! Kids changing their profile pics to Ghostface which is pretty cool!

  • @IcarusReborn
    @IcarusReborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scream 4 was really good.

  • @littlerhys
    @littlerhys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    all i ever wanted was to see Kirby as the new main character considering she was the only survivor of the 2011 Woodsboro Massacre, therefore a new Ghostface would've targeted her instead.

  • @Climinator-op6kh
    @Climinator-op6kh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scream 4 was my first Scream in the cinema and it was awesome!

  • @DericJackman
    @DericJackman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knowing that Kirby could've become the main character really saddens me, because she was such an awesome character! She would've been dope!

  • @bruh_hahaha
    @bruh_hahaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RiP Wes Craven.
    Thank you for the legacy. 🙏🍿
    You are still very much missed. 🙁

  • @Logan213
    @Logan213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I honestly think that Randy's sister Martha would be a twist to the franchise. She had a 2 min roll in the third movie. Now I could see her and stu having a kid. Stu wanting the revenge on sid and Martha avenging her brothers death. Now throw this into the mix but randy is still alive and was the mastermind behind the whole thing him and roman

  • @LayrtizParkProductions
    @LayrtizParkProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How dare Wes pass away! Damn you Wes! Damn you! Honestly… such a talent. RIP WC

  • @entertainmentwizard2703
    @entertainmentwizard2703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a shame Scream 5 didn't happen!

    • @ryansingletary3935
      @ryansingletary3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean didn’t happen

    • @entertainmentwizard2703
      @entertainmentwizard2703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryansingletary3935 The Scream 5 that was originally planned not the new film coming out next year!

    • @ryansingletary3935
      @ryansingletary3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@entertainmentwizard2703 with that original planned script of scream 5 could that could’ve been made in 2011 after the release of the fourth one

    • @entertainmentwizard2703
      @entertainmentwizard2703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryansingletary3935 Probably!

  • @cosmic8tar
    @cosmic8tar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im going as Ghostface for Halloween!!😊😊

  • @jschmeif
    @jschmeif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmfaooo just imagine Sid being the killer in number 5😭

  • @ActionJackson1982
    @ActionJackson1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing photos of the actress who played Kirby in the past year and she had Kirby’s haircut

  • @DarkandStormy86
    @DarkandStormy86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the footage at the end? Scream 5 teaser I missed?

  • @KurtisJamesThomas
    @KurtisJamesThomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ultimately the torch needs fo be passed to a new set of OGs this can be done with or without killing the original 3 as long as it’s done in the right way, the reason behind everyone loving Kirby isn’t down to her character it’s because she’s the only one outside of the original 3 that’s had character development, what’s made this franchise so great is the fact we’ve understood rooted with characters, I’m sure with the new film if they give us new blood that we can connect with will keep us wanting more without having to kill off any of the original 3 OGs

  • @JMoviesMedia
    @JMoviesMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you showing parts of the new trailer? because there's a lot in here not a part of Scream.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:13 Which would have made Jill the first Ghostface to be the killer in more than 1 Scream film.

  • @HappyHalloween1978
    @HappyHalloween1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure we will see trailers around when Halloween Kills comes out or just after as everyone will be going to see that film & talking about it then once November hits then promo for Scream will start leading up till January and release date

  • @MadeByDW
    @MadeByDW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Kirby isn’t in Scream 2022, like even referenced, imma be pissed. I’ll be even more upset if she is revealed as the killer. Kirby deserves to come back, Hayden was great.

  • @DrGamelove
    @DrGamelove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They waited so long to make part 4 that young new horror audiences didn’t even know what it was and only Scream fans were hyped about it. I fear the same thing happens again. Not to mention most successful horror was PG13 and supernatural at the time. Did they really have the nerve to blame Kevin’s script? Kevin’s scripts gave us Scream 1, 2 and 4. Kevin not writing the scripts gave us Scream 3 and the TV series… you can decide for yourself.

  • @franro2204
    @franro2204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scream 4 wasn't bad at all and kinda happy those ideas didn't pan out. I think now that time has passed and there has been enough time for new ideas, this new one appears to be more promising.

  • @hollywoodsaint57
    @hollywoodsaint57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5CREAM 🗡
    a pair of sadistic psychopaths obsessed with the scream/ stab franchise starts killing off the entire scream cast from 1-3 leaving neve Campbell for last where reality and the movie fiction intersect
    kinda like the "last action hero" where film and reality cross paths...

  • @Saulo_Santos
    @Saulo_Santos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Jill really die. Kyrby survived and Stuart is alive! 😏😏!!

  • @charmedtommo8995
    @charmedtommo8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the reason why scream 5 never happened until now was because Wes was sick of the fact the script kept getting re-writes at the last minute and wanted a final script confirmed before shooting. And it was that perverse vile man Harvey Weinstein who kept getting Kevin to do re-writes and Weinstein said he wanted more scream movies and was happy with how scream 4 did in the box office.

  • @ChuckReckin
    @ChuckReckin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone has ever seen Scream Queens season 2, I think that’s the route, Scream 5 would have loosely taken.

  • @rjgroovey8153
    @rjgroovey8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I would like to see what was wrs plan if he was alive but yes I hope kirby is back and I cant wait for the trailer reaction from u and we give are opinions

  • @PsychoKillertheGame
    @PsychoKillertheGame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They need to Stop revealing the killers and having them die. Id take a beast ghostfsce who survives for a twist...good soundtrack and slick lines

  • @jessicajurado5395
    @jessicajurado5395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After seeing the trailer of 5CREAM I doubt of Kirby coming back which sucks. I really liked Kirby she was my favorite character in SCRE4M. Pretty much every teen was killed off. Would have love one of them to survive.

  • @montrellwallace6468
    @montrellwallace6468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scream 4 was Successful at box office but it only made 97 million that’s why scream 5 didn’t get made cause of low box office and plus Wes craven passed away so mtv took the franchise new reboot direction with new characters new killers during each seasons so scream 5 couldn’t happen at time.

  • @AustinNGrayson
    @AustinNGrayson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scream 4 released during the height of horror remakes being released in my opinion. It was not ahead of its time, it was perfect for the time. The whole point of the movie is that the killers try to “remake” the original Woodsboro murders. Every Scream movie parody’s and references something in the horror genre. Wes Craven chose remakes as a topic for 4 which makes sense with when it was released. At such a high point for the amount of horror remakes being released. Like the terrible Rob Zombie Halloween remakes. Horror movies at the time were also known for having a certain type of drab/darkened lighting which Wes chose for Scream 4 and it worked out well in my opinion.

  • @MrZombiejoe
    @MrZombiejoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do We Really Want a Re-SCREAM??? Or do we want it to Stay in the Same World as the First 4???

  • @donniemorton162
    @donniemorton162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't remember if they actually showed Jamie Kennedys character die in the second could he be ghost face

  • @uravirginwhocantdrive1400
    @uravirginwhocantdrive1400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From what ive heard about what's going to happen in the new scream coming up......... Wes and Kevin's original idea and script would be much better.

    • @Jays6926
      @Jays6926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What have you heard?

    • @uravirginwhocantdrive1400
      @uravirginwhocantdrive1400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jays6926 without saying spoilers...... I heard one killer is revealed early on in the movie killing one of the OGs and the second killer is revealed towards the end with different motives than the first one implying they weren't working together. Also family stuff that in my opinion feels like an after thought because there was no indication in the movies before.