All the Bots Got Banned
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edit: hi hi, just wanna say be cautious about the 16k number. the whole thing is super noisy. we can't really know the wave size unless bot hosters want to tell us exactly how much they went up or down by.
the 16k is mixed in with normal players coming in and out from steam maintenance, it could be idle bots being affected (they didn't come back, or got banned too lol), the timing steam polled player numbers, etc. regardless though it did look different to the previous tuesday downtime on the charts, there was two system messages* sent out about server downtime, where the last time they did that was (apparently) once on Oct 1, 2022, and you can hop in game and see the very clear lack of bots. i'm not aware of any exhaustive up to date list of bots globally so it'd be hard to make any estimations of the wave size. sorry if i caused any confusion here :>
* tf2 system messages: x.com/TFSysMessages
topic 2: i can't personally verify it but community bans are seemingly a big tent that encapsulates lots of varying kinds of bans underneath it. i've gotten reports that community bans do block access to VAC servers, and this reply (to this comment) that's seemingly a good summary of the lay of things:
@polistirex
Hi shounic, wanted to say, community bans will in some occasions but not always prevent you from joining a VAC secured server. I have several accounts which are marked as community banned that cannot join any valve server and in one case access the steam library at all. There are different ban reasons. If your ban is for any kind of account fraud OR game abuse like most bot accounts, it will be completely restricted. The same goes if you are caught buying an account off G2A for example.
here's 30 mins of me running around looking for bots
th-cam.com/video/3R2QRiH6cHQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/4brSl210Z88/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/DZ0gGRjZPuE/w-d-xo.html
As far as I know, there are also ZERO bots in Serbia servers, very rare occasion
Just let the game die man. We need more r6s player
@@Deezsirrer r6s is boring
@@Deezsirreri hope you die within the next year
@@Deezsirrerno sentinent being will ever support untersoft
Wave defeated, but there are more to come. Get to an upgrade station before they return.
This
engie do you have dispenser range
*cool electro riff*
Can I use the Gas Passer?
Just be wary of those damn high tours
No way are valve on the treadmill finally
they finally losing weight
@@MadContenderythe weight lost are the bots getting banned
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@@_sukuratchi They dropped the fists of steel!
They are not. This is merely *one* banwave. As of now there's no reason to believe Valve will keep maintaining the game and prevent further bot problems.
Do not stop protesting
Classic Valve
>do nothing
>then do something and say nothing
tbh I like the idea of them doing something and not saying anything. Yeah it keeps real players in the dark but it also keeps the hosters on their toes even more
Then go straight back into doing notting
typical introvert behavior
kinda gigachad move
@@stevefan8283typical incel comment
I saw a post about Valve putting bans on bot accounts but giving the connected main account(s) a warning. In other words, if Valve has detected that you have an account linked to the banned bots (how, I do not know, IP/MAC matches maybe), the host can still keep their main account. And if they continue hosting bots, then all of their accounts are affected.
In other words, Valve is now trying just to scare off the bot hosters. No real fix to TF2 has been made, not even a tweak to the Source Engine.
Personally I'd love to see some proper legal action against the bot hosters to put some actual pressure on them but beggars can't choosers. And I expect the bots to be back within a week.
It would be great, and actually a pretty good solution to this
Legal action isn't an option if the bot hosters live in Russia, sadly.
@@NerfPlayeR135they could invest in General Dynamics lmao
@@TheR00ndar You'd have to get in the Habit of Crossing Lines to go that far, probably, lol
This is great news. The worst part of this has been the lack of consequences. Using limited evidence to tie to main accounts and warn them is such a good thing.
WAVE COMPLETE
GET TO AN UPGRADE STATION
No way 💀
Shit 48 more waves
Time for wave 2 as they say
now we all need to download cheat clients for the upgrades
Bullet and Crit resistance is important for this wave
Literally TF2 cycle:
Its over > ITS NOT OVER > Its over > ITS NOT OVER
Tf2 is like Desinc, im fine, IM NOT FINE, im fine
It’s over
We’re so back
It’s over
We’re so back
This reminds me of everytime Sora ends his combo saying, "It's over!" Even though the boss still has like 10 bars of HP to go through.
IT'S NOT OVER YET, SNAKE!
it's over
WE'RE BACK
IT'S SO OVER
*WE'RE SO BACK*
"Oh, a background Casual game to watch while listening to the situation"
"*checks chat at 0:19*"
*"...oh"*
“What could it possibly be?”
“Just an average Thursday on AO3, it seems”
Even with the bots reduced, the people are still horrible
Well, it is your average tf2 game after all
That chat message is an original sentence
the horrors
“They’ll soon be back”
“And in greater numbers”
Could this be possibly the rare and unheard of "treadmill work"?
whats that
@@_Shadows__ work
@@_Shadows__It’s when you do work while walking on a treadmill
@@_Shadows__It's where you run faster because you are stressed
@@_Shadows__ it's when valve manually bans 10k bots but then immediately see 10k new bot accounts made, so all the work they did got them nowhere, like running on a treadmill gets you nowhere
-0:18-- Now that the bots are gone, we can observe the natural TF2 player talking in chat-
EDIT: It seems shou has censored the chat, respectfully so, since it was a bad taste shock comment about sexually assaulting Mr Beast because the natural TF2 player loves male pregnancy. Yeah...
To not make this comment contempt, at 0:33 we can observe the natural TF2 player's sexual orientation
bruh
dear god
ignorance was bliss
I can't believe people just share so openly about that shit...
welcome to team fortress 2 after 9 years in development, hopefully it was worth the wait
I wonder if he kept that clip in intentionally lol
The man who sacrified his Pwnage Saxxy to the Chaos Gods:
*they called me a madman*
I was online for that alert and had to do a double take
What are you talking about
@@VEE0034you know the saxxy statue melee right? the one that is so few and so rare that you can't get it anymore?
well, a day before the ban someone melt it into scraps in a casual which shocked everyone
In CS2 Valve is doing a thing where farming accounts are being silently banned; they seem to be VAC banned but there is nothing publicly visible on the account to indicate that it was banned, they just can't join official servers. farming bots used to be everywhere for months but I haven't seen any in a while now.
Clickbait?
OH LOL NOT
Lol i had to check the date
I expected a catch but there weren't any. I'm proud of shounic.
Same exact reaction here.
Shounic doesn't really do clickbait. Generally, his videos are as titled.
Are you calling him a traitor?
Dont be rude.
The tf2 cycle
> Casual is infected with bots
> #SaveTf2 #FixTf2
> Ban wave
> Casual no longer infested with bots
> Complaints stop
> Valve moves on
> Bots slowly trickle in over two years
> Casual is infested with bots again
> Repeat indefinitely
Sisyphus
sisyphean
Theadmill work
"Um actually it's not treadmill work because I said so"
Treadmill
They haven't gotten on the treadmill just yet, but they're putting on the sweatpants
Great!
As a side note, I've just checked and from 33 accounts I've reported >2 months ago (but I have no idea if anyone read that email at all, lol!), 14 are VAC banned ("1 VAC ban on record", "33 day(s) since last ban") and 19 are deleted.
Cheers!
Makes me wonder if some of the bots I’ve blocked, just to keep record of, are banned. I mean I assume so since I haven’t seen that variant of the bot in game forever now
is there a way to check accounts you reported after the fact through steam or are you like writing them down and checking manually?
"Is this valve treadmill work?" My brothers in christ, they merely hopped on it for a second. We need to see if they will keep walking.
My brain melted trying to analize this comment.
Edit: to those who think I'm talking about his statement: I do not. I'm saying debunking a sarcastic joke is unnecessary. That's why I wrote that initially, there's no reason to say this as an answer *to a joke* that didn't even imply what he debunks.
@@fantastikboom1094 It's not that hard to understand?
He's saying that we don't know if Valve is going to bother to continue doing this or is this just a temporary thing and all the bots will just come back immediately and basically amount to nothing. Because there's no way the bot hosters will give up that easily, the question is will Valve give up first or not?
@@scottmemelord6130 I'm not talking about his obvious statement. I'm talking about why he's even pointing this out. He quotes something that's completely unrelated to what he wrote.
@@fantastikboom1094 bitch if you can't spell Analyze it's no wonder your shit melted
@@fantastikboom1094it is, in fact. Completely related to what he wrote.
Damn Valve actually did something
Probably just typed "enable_cheats 0" which they forgot to, years ago
@@Jackfromshack
if (is_bot(player)) {
ban(player);
}
i am as impress as you are fellow toaster
How much is going to last
@@clementp7860 Reply section becoming a furry convention, 3... 2... 1...
"You've pushed them back.. For now. Get to an upgrade station for the next wave."
It took us 5 fucking years for us to finally beat that first wave.
I get a feeling that the "treadmill" problem of infinitely banning bot accounts would become a staple of TF2 from now on, i just hope that bot hosters would eventually get bored of it and move on
It’s been like 5 years since bots really became a problem, I think it’s safe to say they’re in it for the long haul.
Bored is not an option when TF2 and csgo are money making machines
@@papahemmy8587doeshotter and magic sparkle are both gone. Some of them do get bored with it eventually
@@unquestionableexistance8704not like they can take enjoyment since the TF2 community the moment a bot joined either kick it immediately or absolutely clobber their bots. I even have a dedicated direct hit battalions backup soldier loadout just for clobbering bots and man its fun seeing those snipers turn into a bloody gib even when theres 5 of them
Just make them lose enough money.
They can only talk if they spend a minimum of 1 dollar.
So one bot per dollar can add up.
Unless the requirement of activated steam account should be made. Then is a bit more money lost per account.
0:20 that Red chatter 💀
and there furries
Average mental health of a chronically online loser in tf2.
Still better than the average TF2 bot
Holy based the man knows what he likes
He likes Mr beast alot
1:00 that spy knifing the pyro is me lol
I feel like this just means the Summer Update is just around the corner.
*summer cosmetics crate and a couple community made maps. They're called updates but they're essentially automated with no work done in them.
@@capofantasma97 Well, they are updates. Just not major ones.
This is, completely unironically, with no hyperbole or exaggeration, the single best piece of news I've seen in fucking years.
the bots are completely all back 💀
Absolutely brother
@@kewlman5417 Pain.
0:31 found a bot
1:00 “impossible to find a bot”
"human grit always beats robot magic" - Jane doe
so here's what's *probably* happening over at valve:
they know about fixtf2/savetf2, but fixing the problem would mean getting rid of all bots and most cheaters forever or at least a very long time, which would take a whole company's efforts to do in a timely fashion, and even then, it would take quite a while
instead of being completely radio silent, they want the tf2 community to know they're working on the problem (even *if* it's just a dozen people) and went through with a ban wave for a very temporary solution for casual
but like we know, they have so much more data than engineers to work with the data, so even if another ban wave happens, it won't be for at least a few months since a very small portion of hours will be set aside to do that
nice oneshot pfp
People are going to see this ban wave and think the problem is solved and then be annoyed when the malicious bot hosters are back again in a year.
@@Reese-wg7jb
Gentleman, fire up the doxxing machine. (My lawyer advised me to say that this is a joke)
engineers? like in tf2?
There's a larger overarching problem with Steam which is how fast people can create bot accounts and use them to farm for drops in games like Banana or even their other games, and god knows about the cost of having potentially hundreds of thousands of new accounts being added to their databases in a day.
quick! play before they are remade
3 days, yes we all have 3 days to live!
Three days later: [Next round of MVM cue plays]
We can’t stop protesting, if they come back? We keep protesting. If we stop, we ourselves are refusing to do the very “treadmill work” that has held tf2 in its state for this long. Valves done something finally, and I believe the finish line to be near. Do not give up hope, because as a wise, lead poisened man once said:
“IF FIGHTING IS SURE TO RESULT IN VICTORY, THEN YOU MUST FIGHT!”
@@user-bb8fx2yh3k thats a beautiful sentiment. The protest is indeed a treadmill job.
@@user-bb8fx2yh3k dear god
They are back on Oceanic server this morning.
0:14
Chile, Peru and Brazil servers aren't as bot infested as the rest of the world (may I say these are the safest servers rn).
They're overlooked in comparison with Virginia, where it's most likely you get a botted server.
In conclusion, give it some time before the bots are fully back.
okay one or two or all of 3 things happened
1: valve did something and actually, forever, fixed the bots-ish
2: bots giving us false hope
3: bot hosters got busted/bored
4:sex 2 was released
Valve likely did something, as it appears that, although bots are man-managed, they can be uploaded and left alone with a simple algorithm. Recently the creators tied them in with the #FixTF2 movement, so this will significantly hinder progress to snuff out who is what by those merits.
But beyond that, we can only hope this is a proper fix, just keep tabs from three days to a week. A month at best if you really wanna be patient.
since they are still SOME bots that means either they did a manual botting wave which means those bots have the same cheats or they did something that detects those cheats and those other bots are using different type of it
None of them. Valve just banned bots for them to turn back like in 5 days
Edit: I am not telling that it is %100 useless. Just telling this is a weak step. That doesnt means be pessimistic.
@@hamsikral3055 Yeah I was gonna say, I don't think any of these things happened
@@hamsikral3055 Community: "Valve, please ban the bots"
Valve: bans the bots
Community: Wow what a weak step
???
Seriously what the hell do you people want?
Welp, within the hour a new wave of bots are all online and named some variant of “you can’t ban me”. They are right about this being treadmill work, you’d have to keep up with these manual bans all day
Then hardware ban would be needed but vpns are probably happening
@@oinkytheink1228 IP and HWID bans wouldn’t stop the bot hosters, I’m sure they use virtual machines to an extent, which in itself is extremely difficult to pinpoint
This is exactly what happened back in 2017~, Valve bans around 200k bots from TF2 and in the span of a week they all come back.
I suspect with this ban wave they targeted cheater bots but even then they'll most likely be back up within the week. The people behind these bot nets are wayyy too dedicated on keeping their cheater bots online and ruining people's fun in a 17 year old game.
Tf2 is hitting 90k players as of right now, all bots are completely back. Pointless video.
the game needs to be $40 again
This is good, but don't let off the pressure, make sure this continues.
"Guys if we just make one dev actually ban some bots they'll shutup" I give it a week
that's a start.
Heavy Weapons Guy, what is your wisdom
@@GewelReal sandvich.
holy crap tf2 heavy real
@@TeufortHeavy is nice
0:22 don't let the good news blind you from this beautiful chat message
mr breast
was about to mention that
I love the unfiltered nature of TF2. Sucks when it gets abused, but it's worth it
lol wtf
The most sane TF2 player:
"You've forced them to retreat. For the time being. For the next wave, proceed to an upgrading station."
Good work. You've beaten them back... for the moment. Get to an upgrade station before they return
This video literally bought so many players back to tf2. I watched in real-time as people joined and asked "are the bots gone?"
Valve is finally doing something good
Not for long
In 2 weeks when bots are back you will complain again that "VALVE isn't doing anything"
@@realdragon well yeah if they can just make more bots it's pointless. I hope they did something to prevent bots from populating servers
@@redwarrior118 It is pointless but try explaining it to TF2 community which doesn't want to wait for actual solution but they want this.
Bots will come back, players will boycott game again. The treadmill problem aren't bots but trying to shut people who think banning bots forever takes 2 lines of code
fingers crossed
Now we have to keep pushing for this.
For everyone saying 'finally' or variants of it:
lol no. Wait to celebrate in about 6 months or so, when and if the problem is clear it is not coming back. Until then, assume nothing is going to change, else we'll just repeat savetf2's premature celebration after the simple banwave, slight rework and valve response.
What's wrong with being a little happy when Valve starts to do something and not stopping yet?
@@ziphy_6471 He's not saying you shouldn't be happy, he's just saying not to celebrate yet. The bots could be back anywhere between three days from no to a year, just because Valve seemingly listened to us doesn't mean that thier solution was permanent.
@@ziphy_6471
They did ONE day of bans
Or maybe one week
That doesn't matter. The more we celebrate the more early they'll stop doing this.
Bans shouldn't be the only thing
SUE THE HOSTERS
@@korjezilla Most of the comments here are still hoping the protest will continue after this and Valve will continue to do this
@@ziphy_6471 I think that's what they are telling us. Keep in mind only a arund a dozen people at Valve work on TF2 anymore, this is probably their way of telling us that they have been working on the problem, and gave us a temporary solution to hold us off for a bit while they keep working on a more permanant fix.
Valve: "Banning bots was a treadmil work"
Feeding his son was treadmill work, so gabe stopped.
Treadmill work is such a joke term, the word they're looking for is "basic maintenance"
@@HappyGingerWolf "Banning 10k bots manually and see 10k new bot accounts the next day loosing all progress just like walking on the treadmill get's you nowhere."
They found out breathing air was treadmill work, after that every Volvo employee was found dead on site
This joke is so overdone...
“Monsueir, does this mean…team fortress is back?” “No”
I was playing on the trenches server when this update happened, and I remember joking about how awesome it would be if there were a manual ban wave. I’m shocked they actually did something
you can thank me, guys. It was actually me who banned all the bots.
...Who are you again?
Thanks :3
thank you good sir
@@leanmaxine1555 he's the guy who banned all the bots, duh! Can't you read?
@@leanmaxine1555 thats the guy who banned all the bots
Banning bots is an endeavour akin to Sisyphus pushing a boulder up a mountain, but it's not about the unreachable goal of having 0 people exploiting the game, it's about the steps taken to get there. Hope that Valve is finally doing something, but don't let up the pressure just yet. We need to watch over them and make sure they do everything in their power to actually address TF2's problems.
"Treadmill work"
one must imagine valve happy
They're all back again, time for another session on the treadmill valve
Man this better be only the beginning!!
They will likely keep doing it in waves. How long before the next ban wave is hard to say. You want to annoy cheat devs, so banning bot accounts as soon as they join is a bad move.
Instead, flag them and then ban them after some arbitrary timespan. That way, the cheat devs don't know what got them flagged, and it is harder to figure out how to avoid detection.
Beyond this, Valve could also be starting to crack down on botted steam account generation. Which will make ban waves a lot more meaningful.
> Instead, flag them and then ban them after some arbitrary timespan. That way, the cheat devs don't know what got them flagged
VAC already does this, While this works for closet cheaters that are actual humans or cheatmakers that advertise undetectable cheats, This doesn't apply to bot hosters that have blantant spinbots that only want to disrupt the game as much as possible
The real way is to find the real bot hoster irl and cancel the fk out of him...., sue them even , confiscate his server and if he is Russian , force him to enlist....
We’re heading into a generation of ai, everytime they ban a bot account it should also go into a database to train an AI to detect them. Even if bot creators avoid the thing that flagged them, many common points will continually show their face over time.
The only way is to find the real bot hoster and cancel him out....if he wants attention we give him the real attention ...( I think a youtube bot have been assigned to me to delete any comment i made ) .
@@kampfer91omegatronic? yeah he gets enough.
remember, just because they vac/deleted the bots, does not mean the protest is over.
it's not over until they actually fix the game.
Yep
yeah this is just the beginning not the end. We got a reaction. Lets keep this thing going so valve doesnt leave again leading to the return of bots...
The protest itself is treadmill work. If we can do it, so can they.
There is no fixing the game
and how exactly should they "fix" the game?
Valve when they use literally 1% of their power:
I can't think of a better moment for a gmod animator to make a classic vicious cycle video. Da, dada, dadada!
Hope they get ON the treadmill correctly this time.
Chances are if we hear glass shattering and screaming, they're probably running it backwards.
@@leanmaxine1555 don't forget the stock cat screaming sound effect
Yeah I've got the feeling they just walked over the treadmill this time...
They ate too many cheetoes
Wow, I'm impressed to see SOMETHING being done about this issue. The janitor, potted plant and intern deserve a raise for sure.
3 hours after this video came out I watched it and immediately went to play casual, so cool to be back.
Wave 1 : Mindless AFK Bot (and Cheat Bot) *[Defeated]*
Wave 2 : Bots acting like TF2 CPU to farm items
As if they wont be back in 3 days.
I mean to be fair I haven’t seen any bots in like a week or two.
most thankful and optimistic tf2 fan
oh my god stop being such a little pessimistic bitch
@@phyog4662 Does my tone of speech change the fact?
way 2 express any form of gratitude lol
i played a few games in a row yesterday all without bots and it genuinely felt like something was missing 😭
Stockholm syndrome 😔
@@self-proclaimedanimator fr
Well now, did not expect to wake up to this
Lessss goooooo
*All possible dances that exist*
This is a good start, but let's see if they can keep it up
You're Doin' Good Lad!
Valve looksmaxxing by hitting the treadmill finally
The treadmill work HAS COME
1:00 soldier in pink is a cheater, he’s racked up quite a few bans
He was the bhopping trolldier right
@@denizatik6534it’s the one with the butterfly text art name and pink crone’s dome, his name is “Brain” now
"don't give me hope"
Fr
Developers doing visible work.
Community: "fuck off!".
Developer: 🥲
@@droopy_eyes i said it as a meme, of course i hope they actually do something after all these years, just don't get me hyped and then disappear again
The damage has done.
we’ve cleaned up the puddle but now they need to close the hole
Gaben put a sapper on the 'little' bot nest the hoster's created:D
Imagine how funny it would be if the omega r34 is what convinced valve to do something. Just like "NOPE. WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT."
The what now
@@thedarteryou don’t wanna know
@@DOCTOR_ERROR_ on second thought you're absolutely right
Valve when bot hosters spread cp : I sleep
Valve when OMEGATRONIC gay porn : real shit
@@DOCTOR_ERROR_ I wanna know
Finally the moment has come
I don't think I've ever been happier to have tf2 news on my timeline thank you 🙏
0:28 no bots but it still tf2 (chat)
oh absolutely
Why did you do this
Thanks
Now I regret everything
tf2 chat is absolutely deranged
Oh no my feelings got hurt now!!
oh no not the dreaded treadmill work
"You've beaten them back. Find an upgrade station before they return!"
I played it two days ago after a long time and the situation was surreal, there were so many bots in the lobbies they kept kicking each other out. They would start vote kicking bots by randomly selecting players in the lobby, and all the other bots voted yes. Glad to see they fixed it, at least for the time being.
Finally, inner peace
Remember: this isn’t a win yet. It’s a start, but without a more permanent fix, the FixTF2 movement needs to continue.
our prayers have been answered.
for now.
gabe scoffs and uses 0.0001 of his power to do this with the snap of his fingers
We need to continue the pressure the hosters are gonna make more bots dont stop the demands ever
Who would ever want to do anything for a guy like you when this is how you respond to getting your way
@@TheGreenTaco999what.
@@TheGreenTaco999 okay... remember what happened last time? with savetf2?
your response makes no sense and has no actual meaning to this movement
at least bugger is saying something useful
@@TheGreenTaco999 So you suggest just stopping here and now? Mf what about the "cheese pizza" bots? What about megascatter's house being raided by SWAT because of false claims by bot hosters? This isnt just about a silly game anymore, they officially hit a new low that should be punishable by law.
Thank you Janitor for your continuous work on TF2! At least he's listening!
what, no way, how, this is truly epic
That one last dev cooked fr
Thank you valve pot plant and janitor, very cool
shounic be fr with me oh my god
Haven’t played tf2 since mid-January, good to see that stuff is actually being done.
A surprise but a welcome one, I'm going to load up the game as soon as I can
i know the bots will be back or at least attempt to come back, but in this short period I just wanna imagine:
there are bot hosters someone who are currently scurrying trying to get their bots back online ASAP to make the game unplayable on official servers and I just have to think: why
the only potential person with real incentive might be someone making money off of software that automizes the process for, whatever reason. And while I hate it, I understand why someone would want to fix that to keep making money. But if it's not that situation, I really don't get why anyone would bother putting the bots back up.
if it’s not about money, then it’s surely for attention
because some people are just complete dickheads with nothing better to do
The only reason is to hurt others fun. Unfortunately, there is a portion of people who get pleasure out of upsetting people for no reason, and they want to keep doing that. I also think it might be a power trip thing because of their determination to work around Valve's updates.
They do it because some people take casual being unplayable as a personal insult against everything they hold close. Those people tend to freak out in very funny ways, which they then review through chat logs, forum posts, TH-cam videos, etc. They're trolls, plain and simple
personally i always thought the bot hosters are secretly working for competing shooter games, trying to take out their competition. it's just a theory but i refuse to believe they are doing this much work and not getting paid for it
remember that this doesn't mean we should completely abandon #fixtf2 and change our reviews to positive. this is just the beginning
oh my god... it's enough to bring a tear to a grown man's eye..
eyyy, back to tf2 again!! i really missed it! (its been 3 months)
Remember that this brief period of no bots could just be temporary, it was like that with the 64 bit update for tf2, don't let go of fixtf2 just yet
We’re so back
Something i find "neat" in a way, is how this wasn't announced or anything, valve didn't respond to fix tf2 directly, it just outright banned the bots so the hosts had 0 time to prepare themselves. Idk just something i thought was fun to think about
I've noticed this about 2 weeks ago already. For a few days I have met literally ZERO bots. Then they returned, but they were different as they weren't spamming the voice chat + had an imperfect aimbot (sometimes they would even miss), and had cosmetics. So presumably it was a different hoster. However, there wasn't that many of them this time around, so kicking them was a much easier task. Also a few days ago I saw severeal of them being VAC banned instantly upon joining the server. Great to see Valve finally doing something.
Shounic is the unsung pillar for this movement.
Grounded
Informative
Straightforward
GIS
Groinfstr
Weird how some people see him as defending valve when he’s just giving his insight on valve’s internal structure
@@darrenchen964 Many lack reading comprehension and objective evaluation skills, which is even more apparent in text-based internet conversations
@@tappajaavthey're literally children most of the time, which explains the lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking