I put a VGT TURBO on my 5.9 CUMMINS! BD Diesel Performance Howler Kit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2020
- I put the BD Diesel Performance Howler turbo kit on my 2003 5.9 cummins! This is BD Diesel's Screamer turbo, its 64.5mm. I love this kit, the turbo spools nice, builds 40psi boost which is huge compared to the 25psi my stock turbo put out, and the exhaust brake is super powerful!
BD Diesel Performance Howler #1047140
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They also make the kit with a regular 6.7 turbo, as well as just the wiring harness and manifold if you want to supply your own turbo! Check out their youtube channel @BD Diesel Performance
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On m’y 3rd Ram with a VGT and love it. When you engage the exhaust brake while in tow mode (auto trans obviously) and let off accelerator- be prepared for a substantial launch forward of your head towards the windshield. Works amazing. Great video
Thanks man! Glad to hear the brake works awesome on an auto as well!
Subscribe yesterday, huge fan of doing it yourself! The truck sounds incredible! That brake really works! Love the drone coverage
Thanks buddy! I appreciate the support!
That blue has always been my favorite color. Truck sounds amazing too
The grill looks absolutely nasty man!!!!! Gotta love the sound of a vgt turbo nicely done
Thanks bud!
I drive semi trucks and the VGT is so amazing its hard to pass up, I'm about to get a ram myself and I'm going VGT, I can't go without having that amazing spool up and exhaust brake.
Really like the Truck! Nice Job!👍 Thanks for sharing...😎
Cool video. Iv been following for a few weeks now. Great content.
super clean build. definitely one of my favorite trucks.
Thanks buddy!
5-9 Cummins 👌the best power plant, that's just my appion.🔥✅💯
Just installed this on my 07 5.9 and really like this setup and I’m coming from compounds. Warmup and the exhaust brake is awesome, fitment is fantastic considering this is mostly factory parts. My compounds experience was ok I was running an HE351/S472 and had some issues with fitment and an oil leak I couldn’t get rid of due to a mount problem. I got frustrated and wasn’t going back once they were removed.
How is it warm up faster?
@@repairvehicle the same as the 6.7, the VGT constricts and loads the engine. Most exhaust brakes do this too. I really don’t know of any that don’t have this function.
Big improvement!!
Love the truck man !
Love your videos man!!! 🤙🤙
that exhaust brake sounds good
That grille is dope
Awesome job
Sweet! Sounds almost as nice as my 6.0 powerstroke now. Awesome truck
6.0s sound awesome, they are my favourite sounding diesel.
@@darkirondiesel
That’s why yours sounds so great, best of both worlds. Has the Cummins growl and Powerstroke whistle 💪
I heard this guy was from Saskatoon and I had to like as I'm from Humboldt fellow Sask buddy
Darn good looking grill .
your the reason why i want a common rail 😍
Sounds nice
I personally love the exhaust brake on my 2014, I turn it on as soon as I start the truck. It helps save the brakes on your truck and I figure the more you use it, the less likely you are to have a problem. So far the truck has 200,000 miles on it and no problems out of the vgt, the transmission is a different story, I hate it.
I’ve never heard of problems with a 68RFE?
Nice work That turbo sounds sick I basically have the same truck lol and I just put a bd sxe 364.5 turbo on and she’s definitely a little laggy
Man I just drove this thing to the lake and passing people on the single lane highway in 6th gear is so responsive. You just slightly press the pedal and you’re flying past then. I’m very happy I went this route!
Another good video
Thanks buddy!
That's awesome! I'm running a standard he351ve on my 04.5 with the 12 valve. A buddy of mine helped build a mechanical controller and we're trying to find the best way to get the exhaust brake working with it. I'm thinking a button under the throttle where it rests and then to a switch in the cab that I can make it stay off or come on when the throttle is let off. Possibly use a fuel shut off solenoid for the exhaust brake. The BD setup seems so much simpler but I don't like the coolant aspect or the price. These turbos get pretty pricey. I ended up picking mine up for free from a job I did for someone and decided to make it work. Good stuff, it sounds nice and runs probably just as nice!
Sweet buddy! If you get it figured out let me know, I’d be interested in hearing how you set it all up!
Man I love my fixed geometry, but damn that turbo sounds badass. I might consider changing to vgt in the future
Haha ya you really cant beat that jet sound in my opinion. But a fixed geometry turbo is definitely more reliable long term.
Nice truck
I have a he351ve on my first gen dodge project truck. I'm running a standaline controller. I feel in love with the turbo as I daily a 08. I bought a 67mm compressor wheel and 70mm turbine, just need to pull the turbo off and get the machining done. The controller I use is from Lil'black box vgt and there is app to custom tune the turbo so I can make changes to the vains depending on shaft speeds, super trick set up.
Thats deadly man! Cool you can custom tune it
@@darkirondiesel yeah I use my as the controller has Bluetooth, can load the updates with the app as well and data log. Well worth the 500$, you pretty much can run a vgt on anything
@@darkirondiesel also just found your chanel, great content
Thanks buddy!
Great music!
The exhaust brake is cool and all but does it spool faster and pull harder down low?
That sounds awsome..... Nice work.
My daughter has done videos of her truck and my son and me of our bikes on that road. So I know exactly where that is haha.
Haha 🤫
I’m looking at this for my 04 5.9. How is it performing so far? Worth the money? How does it tow?
Please let me know exactly what u put it n and where u got it from …I’m going to put this in my 05 -5.9 auto.!!!
Ur truck sold me !!! Need this exact set up - beast mode🤙🤙Hawaii needs this …
Better to put a boost gauge so you can measure the boost pressure and see how cool is the VGT!
Is this possible to run on a 2000 24v Cummins
Does this kit utilize the same coolant port as the factory block heater to feed the turbo?
I really love your truck and enjoy your videos. I do find it fascinating how 4th gen owners are doing 2nd & 3rd gen manifold and turbo swaps and here you are with a 3rd gen essentially doing a 4th gen swap! I guess it really boils down to what you are using the truck for. That VGT exhaust brake is intoxicating.
Did you replace with larger head studs prior to this install?
Any luck on mpg? How is it for daily driving with that
Any 1st gens with 6BT cummins 12 valves out your way worth looking at? Looking for one in good shape. 4x4 a must, standard or Auto, doesn't matter. 8 foot box, preferably. Extended cab, preferred.
Looks like this videos about 2 years old. Do you still like it? I have a 03 and I was looking at this kit, just curious if long term it’s still a good idea to do
I love your videos 👍 I own a 06 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 5.9 Cummins and have upgraded from Banks the exhaust, intake, Intercooler, tuner, Exhaust Braking System w/CBC SmartLock and now I would like to upgrade my Turbo…what would you suggest? I am retired so I only use my truck for daily and towing my travel trailer, I do not need/want for speed/racing just for towing, my truck has 88,000 original miles…Thank you for your videos
I’m having trouble finding a V band clamp I was just wondering what size the v band is ?
Does anyone know if I got this kit and later on I wanted to switch out the exhaust manifold that came with this kit for a 2nd gen exhaust manifold, I’d be able to hook it up to the rest of this kit?
If u tow wth that truck u will like that exhaust break
Would this effect it at all if i install this on a Automatic??
I don’t get it why don’t you do a second Gen swap with Sneed Speed stainless manifold and it would sound really neat and keeps the heat out of 5-6 cylinders?
What I’ll need for my ‘94
You runing a tuner? Which one? Also I gettin p0234 overboosting code. Now. Im not sure if its due to exhaust brake or not.
Sounds like a duramax when it’s idling with the exhaust brake on, not that it’s a bad thing of course
Where did you get your mud flaps for your pickup
Can you use the stock 45° down pipe with this turbo ?
Great video I keep coming back to! One question I have since you bought the 64mm screamer and plan on upgrading your sticks to 120, did you upgrade your clutch yet? If so, to what? I’m curious as to what you’ll think this thing will put down and what measures you’re taking tranny wise to reduce wear and tear with that much power!
When I bought the truck the clutch was slipping, so I put in a southbend dual disk clutch rated for 750HP. I’m hoping to put down 500-600 hp with bigger sticks so the clutch should be more then enough. I also did heavy duty push rods, valve springs, and apr head studs when I replaced my head gasket
Awesome stuff ! Would you care to share some insight ? Just getting ready to do some stuff to mine !!
Sounds awesome I look on the BD site all the time lol
Ya I had my eye on this kit for a while haha
I see you're towing your invisible trailer. I've got cabinets hanging out over my box from my welding skid and I still keep my mirrors down. Tried putting them up but the perspective drives me nuts. Any issues with this system nine months later? Thinking about it for my 05 3500.
Is it frowned upon? I keep my passenger mirror up. It helps me reverse into tight spaces lol. I’ve been told it looks like my truck is doing a 💪. (05: 6 speed Single cab dually)
you need to get custom tunes to take full advantage of that beast
I’m ordering 120hp sticks and a bigger CP3, once I have them installed I’ll get them to send me new tunes!
Awesome video. I think you just helped me solve my lack of exhaust break issue on my 5.9. Curious, what muffler/exhaust do you have? Really like the sound of your rig
5” straight pipe buddy haha
@@darkirondiesel wow, that sounds so much better than mine. Straight pipe as well and loud as fahq
wait you live in saskatoon? damn your only an arms length away ill keep my eyes out for your truck when im in Saskatoon, that truck is so sick
Haha ya I live near Saskatoon!
So I took your advice and bought the stock Howler. Going to install this week and I have one question. You installed the switch near the lighter/12v plug. Do you turn it off and on or basically leave it on all the time? My thought was to install the switch onto the shifter but if it is always on then there is no point, are you happy with your switch location? Lastly, your channel is awesome and super helpful....thanks again!
I pretty much leave the exhaust brake on all the time. Just install the switch wherever you prefer, it really doesn’t matter
You need to clean up your tune. That smoke is fuel and soot and the soot is really bad on you vanes in your turbo so the cleaner the burn the longer you vanes will continue to move. I know guys that leave the brake on all the time to keep them freely moving for a long time. Great video I watch them all and keep us up dated. I want to do the same thing but with a Sneed Speed exhaust manifold with a 2nd gen swap and I just hate the turbo in the back. This will be on a 05 Dodge 3500 4 door long bed dullay 5.9 and I bought this RIH new only thing I’ve done is twin fuel filters Balwin water separator with drain it’s 5 micron and cat filter is 2 micron and that factory filter I put a Baldwin 5 micron and a Fleece in tanke lift pump that makes 21 lbs at idle and 18-19 with heavy load and gauge for lift pump the factory lift pump would put out 5 lbs at idle and 0 at a hard pull . So what kind of price did BD charge you for VG turbo ?
The it’s sounds good video
I was woundring if you could put a VGT turbo on an older engine. I am building a 1936 dodge with a 2005 3.9L ISB. I like that idea.
On a 2015 and 2022 you can have the exhaust brake on with the cruise at 3mph over your set speed the EB will come on and bring you back to set speed.
Also, all videos are better with a pretty girl in them.
Love your channel,but Canadians talk funny...lol Luv ya from the Sullivans in the states
Would you or anyone know. If I install this setup on a automatic 5.9 will I still get that exhaust brake jet sound at the exhaust in park?
I’m pretty sure you would. You could call BD tech support and ask them too
Sounds fantastic. What was the cost of the upgrade to the howler kit?
It’s a little pricier because it’s a VGT turbo and has all the wiring and controller, but I don’t remember exactly what the cost was. Link to the product is in the description though.
Got a question maybe you can answer how would you hook this setup up my 5.9 is drive by cable but is an automatic? Anyway I can really wanting to do this!!!
I think it functions through tow haul mode and your accelerator pedal on autos
Think this turbo could handle 150 hp injectors towing or would that be too much fuel?
This is right off their website:
450hp-575hp towing trucks we suggest the 1047139 kit stock HE351VE turbo paired with stock or 60hp injectors
575hp-675hp trucks we suggest the 1047140 kit with Screamer turbo paired with 90-120hp injectors and a R900 CP3 pump
I put the screamer turbo on mine and am still running stock injectors. 120 injectors next on my list after I do a FASS
how difficult was the install? I was thinking of doing this once I saw your video. I have a 2006
Honestly it wasn’t bad at all. Probably the hardest part was forming the new turbo oil drain line and bolting it up haha.
@@darkirondiesel awesome thank you!
Id love to see a dyno run with stock fueling to see the gains also to see the diffrence when the torque gain comes on
Hoping to dyno it this summer but it will have bigger sticks and upgraded cp3
@@darkirondiesel you should talk to bd diesel and see if maybe they will sponsor the dyno runs for you since you promoting there products 😉. Love the truck man and the channel. Nice to be able to relate to a normal guy. I've got an 05 4x4 dually n.v. 6sp that I tow with here on the farm in Southern Ohio . Looking at running this setup but with the stock vgt not the howler . Have to keep it reliable. Maybe some tuning on the stock fuel system. Should make it feel like a new truck !
BD kinda sponsors me already, they give me really good pricing on their parts and in return I make videos on them
Great video!! I'm interested in doing the same mod to my 03 with a 6 speed NV5600 what additional parts did you need for the turbo coolant connection? How complicated is the wiring for BDD?
The kit comes with everything! But you will need to buy a 2005-2007 style downpipe like it says on their website, then a new v band clamp for the bigger flange. The wiring was mostly plug and play, you do have to splice into a couple wires on your accelerator pedal position sensor which is under your driver side battery, and splice into your coolant temp sensor signal wire. Just call tech support and have them email you the wiring diagram for the 2003 manual trans accelerator pedal position sensor. Follow their instructions and it’s super easy.
And honestly the hardest part was removing the factory oil drain nipple out of the block and installing/bending the new oil drain to the turbo haha
That's awesome I will just need the DIY wiring from BDD since I'm getting a stock 6.7 turbo with the OEM manifold and blocked egr from local seller.
By far you have the best video showing install and a functioning vgt on a 3rd gen thanks for the quick response!
So is it a normal working exhaust brake that you can use when towing and stuff or would an actual exhaust brake still be better?
It’s an actual exhaust brake and amazing for towing. All the new trucks come with these vgt turbos from factory. My 2022 Cummins is also amazing with the exhaust brake especially in tow haul.
I need to do the head gasket and wanted an exhaust break without spending $100k on a new truck. You upgraded the Valve Springs, rods and studs. Would you do this any different? Now that you have had it for a while, would you do it again? I have a 2005 6 speed G56 that we tow with. Your vid's are very helpful. Thanks in advance!
I’m really happy with this set up. I did valve springs, push rods, head studs, and then the turbo plus now 90hp injectors. If I were you and you’re just using it mainly to tow I’d probably get the regular howler kit, not the performance one. Exhaust brake is amazing and it’s got tons of power
So I took your advice and bought the stock Howler. Going to install this week and I have one question. You installed the switch near the lighter/12v plug. Do you turn it off and on or basically leave it on all the time? My thought was to install the switch onto the shifter but if it is always on then there is no point, are you happy with your switch location? Lastly, your channel is awesome and super helpful....thanks again!
I'm putting this kit on right now. Everything is going smooth except the oil drain. How the heck did you bend it correctly and get it on!!??
I’m having trouble finding a exhaust v band that fits
Head studs?
you think this will fit on a 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 5.9 cummins 24v
Yup
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Reliability is the only thing that scares me away from VGT. Otherwise it looks awesome. They are so prone to issues it gets expensive fast. Either the solenoid dies or the vanes get stuck and turbo needs a rebuild.
VGT don’t seem to fail much more than fixed geometry turbos
Where'd you get your mud flaps?
Just through my parts distributor. They are cheap, brand name is husky liners. Can probably find them on amazon
I guess it must just be a tuning thing my stock holset makes 40psi
I can probably get a bit more out of her when I put bigger sticks in and get new tunes
Dark Iron Diesel Yeah I’m sure it’ll make a hell of a difference! Sounds nice I wanna upgrade down the road
Right on buddy. I think these turbos govern themselves at 40 psi, but with that said 40psi of boost at 64mm is a lot more air flow then 40psi at 60mm. So even if they make the same boost the bigger turbo is pushing more air.
@@darkirondiesel sounds about right, have you towed with it much yet? I'm curious of the difference on take off when towing when compared with a fixed turbo
This was odd for me I spend time taking these of the 6.7 they are very trouble some and you are putting one on nice grill
Very trouble some? I’ve seen 2 trucks come in with bad turbos on the 6.7s and they were a 07 and a 08
@@AsianNIGMA yes I hate them they use on some of the industrial 6.7 asweell 🤮
My EB doesn't come on at idle even when its cold
nvm it starting doing it. my truck has gremlins
Will this fit a 2nd gen cummins
I don’t think so, I think 2003 is the oldest they make it for. But maybe have a look on their website, they may have other options for your truck.
Can you do this with a 06 auto ?
Yup
How much boost does it build??
40psi
In canada do they have the srtict as heck emissons law like we have in the u.s. ?
I’m some parts of Canada it’s pretty strict but not where I live. I’m sure that will change eventually though.
@@darkirondiesel hey can ya get me a tuner then ship to me?😁
Haha not if you live in the states. Check eBay, I think that’s where most guys been getting their tuners down there
Do you sell those grills?
Ctcfab.ca
This vgt comes with the exhaust brake already? Or you had to buy that separate? Thanks
The vgt turbo is the exhaust brake, it comes together.
Damn near sounds like a 6.7
Just out of curiosity, what made you decide on that turbo setup ?
Mainly because I don’t personally know anyone that has put a VGT turbo on a 5.9 Cummins. I know lots of people that have big singles or even compounds but no one that’s done this. Plus the exhaust brake is awesome on a standard transmission.
@@darkirondiesel you think ill be as happy with the money spent with an automatic? Im pumped on the exhaust brake aspect. What do you think now that its been innfor a bit? (I just watched the vid last night)
When you down shit try rev matching you might like it better it’s a lot smoother.
I’ll give it a try! Thanks
Wish I could afford it tho lol
Ya man diesel performance parts are never cheap haha
Why in the world would you do a 2nd Gen swap. I think you missed the bus on this one !
I meant to say why would you not do a 2 Gen swap on your truck you have it all apart !
I hate living in CA can’t even buy it for my 03 5.9
Damn I’d hate to buy that truck because id have to put a normal Turbo back on it
VGT turbos are “normal” these days. It’s nice having a 64mm turbo with next to no lag.
You must be new to diesels. If you've ever bought a newer diesel they ALL come with vgt turbos. Dodge introduced them in late model 07's and use them until now. They are the future.
CP Steve Miller I haven’t bought a newer Diesel only pre emissions. And I’m definently not new
Dark Iron Diesel Yea their normal due to emissions. If I ever bought a new truck it would get a normal Turbo and fully deleted
@@steve5912 Most guys towing or running transport like I was that went from vgt to fixed vane hated it. Smoke, egts, no exhaust brake unless you pay 1100 for an aftermarket one on top of the new turbo. Just from experience. Not one has liked them. Don't get me wrong they're great if the truck's just a toy or only pulls a load once in awhile but out west in the mountains vgt is a game changer. To each their own. Just don't buy a truck with one if you don't like them because most after market swaps are around 2500 bucks. No thanks😬
2014 Ram 6.7 cummins. Laramie/U-connect interior that has a dash button for full, auto, or no exh brake. My cruise works while brake is engaged.
My truck is running EFILive. Can something be modified in the ecm programming that can keep cruise from working if the brake is on?
Less music more engine
Installs a vgt turbo but ends up just talking and filming the exhaust brake... NO ONE CLICKED THE FUCKING VIDEO FOR A JAKE BRAKE! 🙄
Rude
BLASPHEMY
F@$k I wish i could do a delete on my 19 cummins in GA!! Thanks EPA 🖕🏽