@@pddofficial should have went with the bigger turbo anyways, but still impressive numbers with a stock turbo. I didn't know the compressors only 54mm on these trucks that is tiny!
You all are really amazing, to work so hard and to not be happy being less than 1hp short of what you promised. That sort of commitment really goes to show how much pride you take it doing things right and I can't wait to get my Cummins so I can order some products from your business.
Yeah maybe but they lived up to their word. Hell the actual offer is to double the power, not to make it reliable. They put more in the trans than in the motor. Now if they had said they would triple the power then yeah, they would be on the hook for a turbo. They did all this shit for free, oh well if he has to buy a turbo later
I bet that stock holset is still running strong. Iv been making 520 hp and over 40 psi at the manifold on my 2003 he341 for the last 6 years. 229k miles all stock still works great (besides things thag were upgraded its all stock)
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 you are making 40psi on a stock HE341? Highly doubtful considering that turbo is barely good for 24-25psi. I don’t wanna call anyone a liar so do you have a clipped billet wheel in it or something? That’s a bronze bushing turbo so 40psi would not only cook it it would over-run it.
@@titanary68 and that is what they would make stock with stock tuning. My assumption is the turbo is spinning upwards of 100k rpm faster than designed but it still works. A turbo is high on my list for much needed upgrades.
Sweet!! Perty cool to see those #'s on that tiny lil turbo 😂🤟 I ran 7x.009's for my first set of injectors with a Quad ADR & an HX-40(60mm). Tow monster & so dang fun to drive. He'll be loving that setup 👍👍 Nice work guys
Great work guys! Not touching the turbos, but giving the guy a transmission that can handle what you did to his engine - you made the right priorities, making sure this would be a good experience for him going forward!!!
Great work guys! Nice that you show the struggle as well as the success! That's what I love about your channel - you guys are real! No made-for-tv bs here! Pretty cool of you guys to do that for him! Thanks for the video!
This is pretty much how my truck is setup but with stock hx35 and a clutch instead of Hy35... If turbo goes then time for a 62mm, head studs and an exhaust manifold
I’m pretty dumb when it comes to this stuff, trying to learn, but why would the turbo not last with this setup? What causes extra stress on the turbo? All they changed was fueling
@@brickson98m More power means more air and fuel is used. More airflow means more work for the turbo to do. Turbos are only efficient between specific points. Ask too much of them and the shaft over speeds, the bearings wear very rapidly, and they destroy themselves.
Hey do y’all want in on this build ⚓️❓Just found y’all’s channel! I think we bought the rebuild kit from you. The engine is about put together Cummins factory NOT out of a dodge
I'm tellin' ya right now... those effing MAP/boost sensors can KILL these 24V trucks damned near dead in their tracks. Several years ago, I had one that was defective/bad in my stock '99 Cummins 24V 5.9L, auto, QC, LB, 4x4 pickup truck. She would fire up and idle just fine all day long, but she would barely move when driven. The problem literally came out of nowhere too. One day she was fine, next day she was fucked. She was so slow to accelerate, it was simply dangerous to drive on the road. At first I thought perhaps I had a major fuel delivery issue, either with the lift pump or injection pump. Thankfully, that turned out NOT to be the case. Strangely, she was throwing over a dozen codes in both the Chrysler PCM and Cummins ECU, all of which just didn't make any damned sense. So, along with my trusty OEM Dodge Ram Cummins service manuals, my basic electrical diagnostic tools, and 20+ years of being a mechanic, I tried fixing the turd myself, evenings after work for about a week. I simply refuse to just throw parts (aka: money $$) at unknown problems just in an attempt to fix them. Proper diagnostics is key! After I was about ready to lose all my marbles, I finally had to take it to a close friend who has been working on MOPAR stuff for over 30 years, and had access to the right diagnostic scan tool (DRB III). After nearly a week of dicking around with it evenings after work, he finally diagnosed it as the MAP sensor. It kinda blew us both away, but in the end, made perfect sense. We installed the new MAP sensor, cleared the codes, and it ran crisp, like a new truck again - even with over 200K on the clock. Freakin' amazing how one little sensor can screw up a vehicle. Damned computer controls, love 'em or hate 'em, we're stuck with 'em!
I am having this same problem, map/boost sensor code. I've put a new one on my truck but the code will not clear and is still in limp mode. Any ideals would be much appreciated.
If the engine management system is computer controled, and the vehicle has a display screen, why not have built-in diagnostics ?! Time saved is money earned...hello ? Is this thing on ? Oh, Map sensor.....
@@aaronhumphrey2009: Built-in diagnostics costs the manufacturer money. #1.) They aren't interested in doing that, for a million obvious reasons. #2.) If diagnostics are built-in, the diagnostic tools companies and the automotive shops would have much less ability to make money. #3.) Vehicle manufacturers do NOT want the average person to be able to work on their own vehicle. They never have. Expensive modern electronic technologies have made it even easier to prevent the average person from being able to do much of anything for themselves on a vehicle any more. Manufacturers want to sell brand new vehicles to the average consumer as often as they can, they do not want people keeping "old" vehicles up and running.
@@bbarnett6795 : Something else is most likely wrong. Just because a vehicle "throws a code", does not mean that the sensor that set the code is bad. Common fallacy that most NON-professional vehicle technicians just don't seem to understand. A diagnostic failure code that is set/showing simply means there is a problem somewhere in a given system. In your particular case, the Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure (or Turbo Boost Pressure in the intake) is likely too high or too low. There are several things that can cause this. Further diagnostics are necessary to figure out what's really wrong with your truck. Your problem could be a lot of different things. Start simple. Inspect your intake plumbing, boots, clamps, gaskets, seals, etc. Check for cracks, holes, leaks, loose clamps, etc. Inspect the air-to-air intercooler for any cracks or leaks. It may have to be removed and pressure tested to verify it doesn't have any leaks. Inspect your turbocharger. Make sure the wastegate on the turbo is functioning properly. Many mechanical wastegates eventually succumb to failure over time, due to corrosion and/or due to high engine operating hours/miles. There are various tests to do check for the proper functioning of your turbocharger and its wastegate. Has anyone dicked with the turbocharger/intake or fueling system in your truck? Boost foolers, tuners, and other aftermarket stuff can lead to problems if they are not used or installed correctly. Has your truck ever been hit or wrecked? Sometimes strange problems from accidents can crop up over time from prior collisions and not be an issue until days, weeks, months, or even years later. Sometimes, a code set can be caused by a somewhat unrelated problem as well. For example, when my truck had the code for the MAP, it also had about 12 other failure codes that were set during the same time frame. Even after clearing them all out, 2/3rds of them came back almost immediately after the next test drive cycle. This "pile-up" of failure codes being set was because of the "snowball-effect" of other problems that developed quickly from the bad boost sensor readings that were being sent to the truck's ECU and PCM. As I recall, there were about 6 codes in the Chrysler PCM, and another 6 in the Cummins ECU. Some similar, and some totally different. Ironically, everything checked out fine, except finally, by a very lengthy process of elimination (checking every "failure" and verifying the proper functions of what the failure codes were pointing to), we came to the conclusion that the MAP/boost sensor was my actual problem. After an exhausting amount of diagnostics and finally installing a new Cummins $150 MAP sensor, my "no power problems" went away. My point is, this will not always be the case, as each individual vehicle's situation MAY differ/vary.
@@turbodiesel4709 All true, unfortunately . That, the high price of a new Diesel truck, and depreciation are all excellent reasons for me not to buy a new truck. Once they're out of warranty, you've looking at potentially big repair costs.. ruinously high for the average owner...
Great video. Really enjoyed watching you make it happen and explaining what was going on. Loved how you took such good care of Jared with upgraded parts. Thanks guys.
Awesome. If I was Jarred I wouldn't have left your shop without buying a turbo. Would love to have you guys work on my 97 3500 12v with only 100200 miles on her.
Love the video the only thing I didn't like was you change the timing of the motor wasn't just adding a bigger Turbo and I flow manifold you would have got the same results
The only thing I disagree with is the stock lift pump is adeqent for stock hp. The stock carter lift pumps were crap and notorious for silently killing vp44's. I'd recomend a lift pump upgrade for any second gen, if not one of these nifty belt drive ones any quality electric lift pump would be a more reliable upgrade compared to the stock pump.
Now I’ve got 315000. Fixed the click in the steering. Another issue came up, steering box replaced. Then my batteries exploded. Replaced and replaced some cables. Hopefully the alternator will stop overcharging now. 👍🏽
Where do I drive my 2004.5 5.9 Cummins H.O w/ 6-Speed NV5600 Manual truck to have my power doubled?? It would make an awesome video since it’s a very desired truck 😁
I got a kick out of the similar situation I'm sitting in. My 06 Ram MegaCab was from Utah, I live in NC, work as a maintenance TL in Durham Aisin transmission plant and I'm doing "research" on how to double my HP as well lol! I think yall did a great job of explaining each step in the process and it's associated gain(or lack of 😒). I am currently running an Edge CTS and believe it is causing issues for a few reasons, so I'm now in the market for a new turner. What things are affected with your custom tunes? ie. Egt, boost psi, engine temp, etc.
You guys are awesome 😎 you did very well for the kid 👍 he's the future of diesel and you guys went above and beyond for him. That's why you guys will be getting my business. I love the brain power you have working for you. The guy that designed the mechanical fuel pump is a genius and I love how you give him the credit on the video. You can see the pride as he's describing it 😎 I'm sorry your day ended badly with the big motor blowing up but I know you guys will be back BIGGER BADDER AND FASTER 😎
PowerDrivenDiesel This is really an awesome thing to do for someone and just to show people what these tractor power plants can do! I have been running transfer dump trucks since I was 19 I am currently 33. Ran anything from 3406 cat to c7 c12 c15 and my favorite but far from the best was my personal truck was a Kenworth T800 with a ISX 450 Cummins2003! But since then I have wanted my Cummins in my daily since! About 6 months ago I got the only help I’ve ever had in life thru some inheritance. I bought a house and I got my 06’ 3500 ram 5.9l trusty and searched for months for the 6spd manual cause I’m a driver right! Spent 18k on it with 274k miles but supposedly a new motor and it looked new (NOT) drove it 3 hrs before it started to miss and knock ! I was heart broken, anyways it sat for 2 weeks while the only shop around here I live ( about 56 miles from Canada in Idaho Sandpoint, ID)! It looked great in my driveway lol but I had already order Banks big ram air intake manifold, the ram air intake and the automind tuner cause I wanted mpgs with a punch when I wanted. Well after the first month the decided it was just a bad head gasket 2k in labor and parts! Nope another month goes by and now it’s cylinder damage on 3 and 4! Sends it off to a machine shop in Spokane, another month and now it’s real great news! It was a rebuild but it had been bored past recommended specs from Cummins and sleeved with thick sleeves only on 3 and 4 ! And block was warped and had been cut past recommended specs! 3 and a half months and 5k and my truck had no motor and me vehicle! I used the very last of my inheritance from my grandfather to have one built by Black Water Engines out of Virginia and it’s a beauty forged connectors arp studs the works! 6k and another month to finally get it and 7k in labor so my dream truck of my allotted 20k has turned into our 34k and over 5 months and it’s been done for 3 weeks and I’ve drove it a Total of 12 hours! It’s been back to this stupid shop 3 times already and this last time was leaking oil from the front of the engine tranny fluid from where they took it apart and when I pulled up the brand new radiator I made them put in blew up! I’m a grown man literally trying not to cry right now cause you guys stoked this kid out so tuff and I have lived and breathed diesel for over 15 years and just so heart broken with my dream truck I don’t even want to drive it! Instead im getting ready to back out to my unheated shop at about 5 degrees and put a fuel pump in my old 91’ 4Runner 3.0 slow cause I’m afraid I’m gonna break my Cummins! Oh and I went absolutely into debt trying to build my dream nightmare truck that gonna have to sell it to keep my house! Build on guys it’s truly radical what you guys do and just wish I could share the passion still but my flames been put out by a crooked car salesmen!! Rather be Cummins than stroken and day! Don’t get me started on Izzy’s duramax! Unless it comes in Peterbilt or Kenworth it’s not diesel!!! Douces
Wonder how many speeding tickets he got on the way home with that new found power haha, I love my 400whp 12v. Never driven a vp truck but I would like to feel the difference with the electronic pump.
Built many many Dodge truck o drive transmissions. The BIGGEST killer was a restrictor in the cooler lines it stopped any fluid going to the back of unit. Burned o drive (in back). To a crisp!!. Built many owner pulled trailers. I retired bad health in 2007. Done a cpl for brother. He burned his 4l60e snow plow...
@@j.strachan2510 no shit, but its not going to lose that damn much. Not to mention my tuner alone will give me 175hp. Not to mention my injectors and cold air
PowerDrivenDiesel that mechanically drivin pump would sell like hot cakes on the powerstroke world.. I'm looking for 500 600 in my excursion and would love one..
I love you guys. And your products are absolutely great none better in qaylity or the amount of energy put into building them. I wish you would do something on driveshafts rear aluminium in particular. I'd like to see how much torque they will take before they shred I have one in my stock 2004 ram 24 valve so far so good even pulling a load of hay down the road around 33000 stock settings as far as I'm aware on timing.
This video is awesome. I recently purchased my first diesel truck. It's a 98 2500 4wd NV4500 Cummings. It has an Edge with attitude and an airdog 150 100 horse injectors and a big turbo. A southbend clutch and airbags in the back. The trucks been sitting for around 4 years it needs a lot of work. I know it needs a transfer case rebuilt and possibly a clutch. It currently will make 50 to 55 pounds of boost. Do I need head studs and fire rings?
Thank you for the reply. As I was definitely considering the fire rings. I am just trying to optimize what is already there. Rebuild the turbo. Different wheel in it. I don't want more boost just want it sooner. A different exhaust manifold that the turbo can bolt to and an intake horn to start. Are there any companies you would suggest sourcing parts from?
This is amazing. I have a 2002 DRW 4x4 that I tow my camper with. I would love to have a setup like this so that I can pull better and not have my foot on the floor when climbing hills. Thanks for the watch
Really impressed. Your dedication making tunes that work really paid off. Unbelievable power with stock components. Super stoked to see what you can do with my truck.
LOL as soon as he said how many miles are on that stock transmission, I was waiting for him to say "Um........... we should not be doubling your horsepower & torque then
How much does that good Torque converter cost? I have a stock 24 valve with the 48 transmission. And like you said seems like the Torque converter slips after we put and 75 horse edge tuner in it.
I’m from Utah as well in Sandy, #kelleymobiledetail having a 2014 Ram 3500 6.7L w/ Asian trans delete(which i feel is weak) S&B cold air, pedal commander, and today we’re looking at working on 2 injectors. Would love to meet and come by your shop. Love to learn and trade work if possible?
Not so simple. Did you watch Finnegan put one in his 70s ramp truck? I've got a marine 6.5 in my '84 suburban now, and I just added a holset hx35. Maybe in the near future....
I had a '98.5 24v/47re . Nice straight 2wd with a long bed. But the freakin' truck was literally falling apart around the engine and I couldn't keep up with all the repairs. I finally decided to cut my losses and sell it after the vp44 and the trans both took a crap within a few months of each other. Oh yeah, it was a 53 block.
What about doubling a stock 12 valve?? Have 97' Dodge ram 2500 4x4, Auto w/5.9 and with only 49,000 miles on it. Been garaged most it's life and looks like new with only few bumps ... one in front bumper and one in back bumper, which both going to be replaced. Anyway, use it for towing camper trailer and flatbed trailer. Noticed when on freeway it slows on hills a little more than want sooo.... my question would be what upgrades for the money do you think would work best to help it get up and move a bit better and do better at towing. Only thing i've done was add a Banks air box inlet. So, can you help a guy with his 1st diesel truck? Thanks, and can't wait to get it up and moving faster and performing better at towing.
You can see the life in this dudes face drain as he realizes they might be dropping cash on a turbo and then how ecstatic he was that they didn’t have to.... clowns
They should have put the $1,200 turbo on it instead of the $2,500 aftermarket VP44. I want to call them names for their buffoonery, but I want to try to stay civil.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but boy it sure seems like this video from that era put power driven diesel on the map! A million people can’t be wrong. I immediately went to the website to buy that mechanical fuel pump, but couldn’t find it anywhere? What’s the story on that? You guys are awesome!
My brother and i both got quadzillas and 150 hp injectors with stock turbo and easily made 411 to the wheels with custom tuning. Mine was never on a dyno but would take off on my brothers who had been on a dyno(stock auto trans but we don’t recommend that and he got lucky with how long it lasted before giving out) at least up until the top end cause my gearing is slightly different because auto vs 5 speed manual. If they really slapped a 2k hp convertor in here for free on top of injectors and a $1k tuner and new vp id be slapping a fat turbo and head studs at it asap. Lucky for me i have a manual and a southbend and head studs have been done. Finally got all my parts to slap the big turbo sittin in my garage at it to make some real power.
I’ll be ordering a bunch from y’all’s site I would love to be able to talk to you guys to see what all I need basically what parts go together that way I’m not bottling my truck
What about doubling horsepower in a common rail? I got a sick build I’m throwing together with a six gun on3 twin kit with Ppe twin cp3 and 100hp injectors what do you think I will make? I’m hoping to be at 750hp but don’t know if I spent enough lol I got valve springs and push rods to so I’m hoping for a good number what is your in put
I guessed 200HP to the rear wheels. It was 182HP. 400 something on the torque, still a nice tow rig even stock. I have a similar truck 2000, 2500, I bought it with a bad lift pump. Working on it now.
again you guys are awesome for doing something like this for your customers and fans. that mechanical lift pump is a great idea leave it to the all mechanical minds of power driven diesel.
Great video, but why would you use an exposed "belt" to drive the mechanical lift pump? If/when that belt breaks you are going to be in a lot of trouble.
I run a mechanical lift pump similar to this setup and it's a toothed belt that is NOT under tension. I assume PowerDrivenDiesel's pump is the same setup. If so, these belts will probably outlast the truck (if you live up here in Michigan where rust is destined to kill the truck) as the belts are really not under any kind of strain whatsoever. Even so, when doing a mechanical pump you also have the ability to use your factory electric pump as a backup, and to rig it up so that it automatically kicks in if the belt were to break. This will at least get you stock pressure for you to drive it home and work on it. That is how I run mine. The electric pump still runs for priming, and if my pressure drops below 10 it kicks in automatically.
Slowly you can see them regretting the decision of doing this for free
😂😂😂 this made me crack up
Looked really happy when they didn’t need to give him a free turbo lol
I saw it right when then hopped out of the truck lol
@@pddofficial should have went with the bigger turbo anyways, but still impressive numbers with a stock turbo. I didn't know the compressors only 54mm on these trucks that is tiny!
wrong, so wrong, the Man is as good as his word
You all are really amazing, to work so hard and to not be happy being less than 1hp short of what you promised. That sort of commitment really goes to show how much pride you take it doing things right and I can't wait to get my Cummins so I can order some products from your business.
Poor lil fella had all his friends convinced he was making 425 before he left North Carolina 🙄🤔😂
He's from the Carolinas I'm sure it's the fastest truck with that stupid lean
Ole Carolina squat
@@adolfii1893 hey from SC here that squat is gross not all of us are into it 😂
Ah he’s at 464hp corrected just not Uncorrected 😂
LOL
Do more vp 24v stuff. Please
Yes. Where do i sign up to have my trans and vp replaced for free?
Mad respect for putting in the long hours to keep your word. I’ve had that look on my face before and it’s never fun😂
Thank you Colton
That mechanical fuel lift pump is an interesting idea. That green truck was brutal
So pretty much he’s gonna need a turbo by time he gets home.
Yeah maybe but they lived up to their word. Hell the actual offer is to double the power, not to make it reliable. They put more in the trans than in the motor. Now if they had said they would triple the power then yeah, they would be on the hook for a turbo. They did all this shit for free, oh well if he has to buy a turbo later
I bet that stock holset is still running strong. Iv been making 520 hp and over 40 psi at the manifold on my 2003 he341 for the last 6 years. 229k miles all stock still works great (besides things thag were upgraded its all stock)
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 you are making 40psi on a stock HE341? Highly doubtful considering that turbo is barely good for 24-25psi. I don’t wanna call anyone a liar so do you have a clipped billet wheel in it or something? That’s a bronze bushing turbo so 40psi would not only cook it it would over-run it.
@@titanary68 yes. Many people have made 500 plus wheel with all stock 03-04 but with running their cp3 dry.
@@titanary68 and that is what they would make stock with stock tuning. My assumption is the turbo is spinning upwards of 100k rpm faster than designed but it still works. A turbo is high on my list for much needed upgrades.
13:00 into the video, “we shouldn’t have been doing this for free. fml”
That bolt on mechanical pump is a genious idea. major props to him for coming up with that
I need to check into a setup like that for my 3rd gen and research if that’s the way I’m needing to go with mine
I wouldn't want a pump that bolts to my oil pan bolts. I would rather go with a different set up.
Sweet!! Perty cool to see those #'s on that tiny lil turbo 😂🤟 I ran 7x.009's for my first set of injectors with a Quad ADR & an HX-40(60mm). Tow monster & so dang fun to drive. He'll be loving that setup 👍👍 Nice work guys
Todd you and Will and everybody at PDD deserve a pat on the back. I can't wait to meet and talk with you guy's. Just hope I don't bug you when I do.
Great work guys! Not touching the turbos, but giving the guy a transmission that can handle what you did to his engine - you made the right priorities, making sure this would be a good experience for him going forward!!!
Wow, you guys are awesome. Sticking with it till after 1am to get to the goal. That is dedication. Good job, well done!
Really makes me want another vp truck
Great work guys! Nice that you show the struggle as well as the success! That's what I love about your channel - you guys are real! No made-for-tv bs here! Pretty cool of you guys to do that for him! Thanks for the video!
350000 on stock injectors 😁😁😁😁😁 job well done Cummins
451k on my 12 valve
Mine has stock injectors and at 366,000+
@Jonathan Rajsl i hate that 2nd gear skip get it fixed i jus went overkill on my 01 24v cummins transmission
That turbos got to be hurting lol. That run down the track... Good thing Egts are just a number
Yep by not changing the turbo and advancing the timing the way they did for sure is going to burn that motor right up
But... but I thought the glowing molten manifold and pipes looked cool!
Should have titled this how to kill a turbo for 8000$
John geezee yep that turbo’s not gonna last...
This is pretty much how my truck is setup but with stock hx35 and a clutch instead of Hy35... If turbo goes then time for a 62mm, head studs and an exhaust manifold
I’m pretty dumb when it comes to this stuff, trying to learn, but why would the turbo not last with this setup? What causes extra stress on the turbo? All they changed was fueling
@@brickson98m More power means more air and fuel is used.
More airflow means more work for the turbo to do.
Turbos are only efficient between specific points. Ask too much of them and the shaft over speeds, the bearings wear very rapidly, and they destroy themselves.
I have an 06 original engine and transmission with 395000 mils and climbing and runs like a champion
Awesome. I have a stock 98.5 24valve with only exhaust and a cone filter.
Hey do y’all want in on this build ⚓️❓Just found y’all’s channel!
I think we bought the rebuild kit from you.
The engine is about put together
Cummins factory NOT out of a dodge
Never messed with the marine application.
@@pddofficial it’s a pretty simple little critter. Not much to it
Interesting... big question... to do all of these upgrades...." what is the cost parts and labor" including the transmission?
Do a first Gen, shouldn’t be hard to double its power. But show how to do it the right way...
Good job from a bunch of stand up guys.
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Man you guys are great. Jarred WON THE LOTTERY !! 😎👌Very cool.
I'm tellin' ya right now... those effing MAP/boost sensors can KILL these 24V trucks damned near dead in their tracks. Several years ago, I had one that was defective/bad in my stock '99 Cummins 24V 5.9L, auto, QC, LB, 4x4 pickup truck.
She would fire up and idle just fine all day long, but she would barely move when driven. The problem literally came out of nowhere too. One day she was fine, next day she was fucked. She was so slow to accelerate, it was simply dangerous to drive on the road. At first I thought perhaps I had a major fuel delivery issue, either with the lift pump or injection pump. Thankfully, that turned out NOT to be the case. Strangely, she was throwing over a dozen codes in both the Chrysler PCM and Cummins ECU, all of which just didn't make any damned sense.
So, along with my trusty OEM Dodge Ram Cummins service manuals, my basic electrical diagnostic tools, and 20+ years of being a mechanic, I tried fixing the turd myself, evenings after work for about a week. I simply refuse to just throw parts (aka: money $$) at unknown problems just in an attempt to fix them. Proper diagnostics is key!
After I was about ready to lose all my marbles, I finally had to take it to a close friend who has been working on MOPAR stuff for over 30 years, and had access to the right diagnostic scan tool (DRB III). After nearly a week of dicking around with it evenings after work, he finally diagnosed it as the MAP sensor. It kinda blew us both away, but in the end, made perfect sense. We installed the new MAP sensor, cleared the codes, and it ran crisp, like a new truck again - even with over 200K on the clock. Freakin' amazing how one little sensor can screw up a vehicle. Damned computer controls, love 'em or hate 'em, we're stuck with 'em!
I am having this same problem, map/boost sensor code. I've put a new one on my truck but the code will not clear and is still in limp mode. Any ideals would be much appreciated.
If the engine management system is computer controled, and the vehicle has a display screen, why not have built-in diagnostics ?! Time saved is money earned...hello ? Is this thing on ? Oh, Map sensor.....
@@aaronhumphrey2009: Built-in diagnostics costs the manufacturer money. #1.) They aren't interested in doing that, for a million obvious reasons. #2.) If diagnostics are built-in, the diagnostic tools companies and the automotive shops would have much less ability to make money. #3.) Vehicle manufacturers do NOT want the average person to be able to work on their own vehicle. They never have. Expensive modern electronic technologies have made it even easier to prevent the average person from being able to do much of anything for themselves on a vehicle any more. Manufacturers want to sell brand new vehicles to the average consumer as often as they can, they do not want people keeping "old" vehicles up and running.
@@bbarnett6795 : Something else is most likely wrong. Just because a vehicle "throws a code", does not mean that the sensor that set the code is bad. Common fallacy that most NON-professional vehicle technicians just don't seem to understand.
A diagnostic failure code that is set/showing simply means there is a problem somewhere in a given system. In your particular case, the Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure (or Turbo Boost Pressure in the intake) is likely too high or too low. There are several things that can cause this. Further diagnostics are necessary to figure out what's really wrong with your truck.
Your problem could be a lot of different things. Start simple. Inspect your intake plumbing, boots, clamps, gaskets, seals, etc. Check for cracks, holes, leaks, loose clamps, etc. Inspect the air-to-air intercooler for any cracks or leaks. It may have to be removed and pressure tested to verify it doesn't have any leaks. Inspect your turbocharger. Make sure the wastegate on the turbo is functioning properly. Many mechanical wastegates eventually succumb to failure over time, due to corrosion and/or due to high engine operating hours/miles. There are various tests to do check for the proper functioning of your turbocharger and its wastegate.
Has anyone dicked with the turbocharger/intake or fueling system in your truck? Boost foolers, tuners, and other aftermarket stuff can lead to problems if they are not used or installed correctly. Has your truck ever been hit or wrecked? Sometimes strange problems from accidents can crop up over time from prior collisions and not be an issue until days, weeks, months, or even years later.
Sometimes, a code set can be caused by a somewhat unrelated problem as well. For example, when my truck had the code for the MAP, it also had about 12 other failure codes that were set during the same time frame. Even after clearing them all out, 2/3rds of them came back almost immediately after the next test drive cycle.
This "pile-up" of failure codes being set was because of the "snowball-effect" of other problems that developed quickly from the bad boost sensor readings that were being sent to the truck's ECU and PCM.
As I recall, there were about 6 codes in the Chrysler PCM, and another 6 in the Cummins ECU. Some similar, and some totally different. Ironically, everything checked out fine, except finally, by a very lengthy process of elimination (checking every "failure" and verifying the proper functions of what the failure codes were pointing to), we came to the conclusion that the MAP/boost sensor was my actual problem. After an exhausting amount of diagnostics and finally installing a new Cummins $150 MAP sensor, my "no power problems" went away. My point is, this will not always be the case, as each individual vehicle's situation MAY differ/vary.
@@turbodiesel4709 All true, unfortunately . That, the high price of a new Diesel truck, and depreciation are all excellent reasons for me not to buy a new truck. Once they're out of warranty, you've looking at potentially big repair costs.. ruinously high for the average owner...
Great video. Really enjoyed watching you make it happen and explaining what was going on. Loved how you took such good care of Jared with upgraded parts. Thanks guys.
Awesome. If I was Jarred I wouldn't have left your shop without buying a turbo. Would love to have you guys work on my 97 3500 12v with only 100200 miles on her.
I believe they ended up putting one on for him according to a post jarred made
Torque is measured horsepower is calculated!!
Great group of guys to do this. Best Diesel channel on TH-cam.
Awsome job wish my truck was the lucky one haha still getting painted :)
Im getting 20 on my 2015 6.7 cummins
I need this for my stock 24v. Awesome work and products.
Love the video the only thing I didn't like was you change the timing of the motor wasn't just adding a bigger Turbo and I flow manifold you would have got the same results
You guys rock!!! Working late nights to hook up a winner with more hp. Keep em coming
The only thing I disagree with is the stock lift pump is adeqent for stock hp. The stock carter lift pumps were crap and notorious for silently killing vp44's. I'd recomend a lift pump upgrade for any second gen, if not one of these nifty belt drive ones any quality electric lift pump would be a more reliable upgrade compared to the stock pump.
Say what you will about that kid, hes got a well taken care of 2nd gen ram. He deserves it.
Kinda stupid if you ask me .add big exhaust big injectors,fueling programmer and not put a bigger turbo on it.😭😂 not to smart if you ask me.
I’ve got a 03 2500 with 295000 miles. I don’t want to double the HP. I want to double the MPG.
If I could get the steering wheel to stop clicking I would be happy. Thanks. @@pddofficial
A bit late to the party but my 99 gets 19 in the city, as long as you dont drive it like you stole it you should be fine.
Now I’ve got 315000. Fixed the click in the steering. Another issue came up, steering box replaced. Then my batteries exploded. Replaced and replaced some cables. Hopefully the alternator will stop overcharging now. 👍🏽
Truck still running well. I might go ahead and replace the alternator anyway. It’s old and may be starting to go out. 👍🏽
My Bullydog programmer put mine from 17mpg to 30mpg running 60mph.
Where do I drive my 2004.5 5.9 Cummins H.O w/ 6-Speed NV5600 Manual truck to have my power doubled?? It would make an awesome video since it’s a very desired truck 😁
Making a young Man Smile, inside and out......COOL.
I got a kick out of the similar situation I'm sitting in. My 06 Ram MegaCab was from Utah, I live in NC, work as a maintenance TL in Durham Aisin transmission plant and I'm doing "research" on how to double my HP as well lol!
I think yall did a great job of explaining each step in the process and it's associated gain(or lack of 😒). I am currently running an Edge CTS and believe it is causing issues for a few reasons, so I'm now in the market for a new turner.
What things are affected with your custom tunes? ie. Egt, boost psi, engine temp, etc.
The truck at the end is why I dont mess with whats not broken
You guys are awesome 😎 you did very well for the kid 👍 he's the future of diesel and you guys went above and beyond for him. That's why you guys will be getting my business. I love the brain power you have working for you. The guy that designed the mechanical fuel pump is a genius and I love how you give him the credit on the video. You can see the pride as he's describing it 😎
I'm sorry your day ended badly with the big motor blowing up but I know you guys will be back BIGGER BADDER AND FASTER 😎
I don't know about the 5.9 with the timing but I know you can kill a 12.7 Detroit with changing the timing
PowerDrivenDiesel This is really an awesome thing to do for someone and just to show people what these tractor power plants can do! I have been running transfer dump trucks since I was 19 I am currently 33. Ran anything from 3406 cat to c7 c12 c15 and my favorite but far from the best was my personal truck was a Kenworth T800 with a ISX 450 Cummins2003! But since then I have wanted my Cummins in my daily since! About 6 months ago I got the only help I’ve ever had in life thru some inheritance. I bought a house and I got my 06’ 3500 ram 5.9l trusty and searched for months for the 6spd manual cause I’m a driver right! Spent 18k on it with 274k miles but supposedly a new motor and it looked new (NOT) drove it 3 hrs before it started to miss and knock ! I was heart broken, anyways it sat for 2 weeks while the only shop around here I live ( about 56 miles from Canada in Idaho Sandpoint, ID)! It looked great in my driveway lol but I had already order Banks big ram air intake manifold, the ram air intake and the automind tuner cause I wanted mpgs with a punch when I wanted. Well after the first month the decided it was just a bad head gasket 2k in labor and parts! Nope another month goes by and now it’s cylinder damage on 3 and 4! Sends it off to a machine shop in Spokane, another month and now it’s real great news! It was a rebuild but it had been bored past recommended specs from Cummins and sleeved with thick sleeves only on 3 and 4 ! And block was warped and had been cut past recommended specs! 3 and a half months and 5k and my truck had no motor and me vehicle! I used the very last of my inheritance from my grandfather to have one built by Black Water Engines out of Virginia and it’s a beauty forged connectors arp studs the works! 6k and another month to finally get it and 7k in labor so my dream truck of my allotted 20k has turned into our 34k and over 5 months and it’s been done for 3 weeks and I’ve drove it a Total of 12 hours! It’s been back to this stupid shop 3 times already and this last time was leaking oil from the front of the engine tranny fluid from where they took it apart and when I pulled up the brand new radiator I made them put in blew up! I’m a grown man literally trying not to cry right now cause you guys stoked this kid out so tuff and I have lived and breathed diesel for over 15 years and just so heart broken with my dream truck I don’t even want to drive it! Instead im getting ready to back out to my unheated shop at about 5 degrees and put a fuel pump in my old 91’ 4Runner 3.0 slow cause I’m afraid I’m gonna break my Cummins! Oh and I went absolutely into debt trying to build my dream nightmare truck that gonna have to sell it to keep my house! Build on guys it’s truly radical what you guys do and just wish I could share the passion still but my flames been put out by a crooked car salesmen!! Rather be Cummins than stroken and day! Don’t get me started on Izzy’s duramax! Unless it comes in Peterbilt or Kenworth it’s not diesel!!! Douces
All this free upgrades = upgraded truck for sale? Buy me a real truck
Wonder how many speeding tickets he got on the way home with that new found power haha, I love my 400whp 12v. Never driven a vp truck but I would like to feel the difference with the electronic pump.
Stumbled into this video from hurricane Utah!
Does anyone know how that guys truck is doin thees days
I could be wrong but was the truck owner wearing a Hollister shirt!? If im right that dude should not be allowed to drive a cummins...
I’m from the east coast haha I spend a lot of my past time surfing.
What I find odd is that Hollister is just an old farm town turned bedroom community, how it made it onto some clothing wear line I don't know.
Roger that brother... skinny jeans are also not allowed but I do wear my Jordan’s sometimes!
Jarod Palmr and that has to do with what?
evil one he is trying to justify being gay haha
Lmk when yall wanna double or triple a 24v with a 6 speed manual plz :l
Quadzilla #10 most efficient way to turn diesel into scattered engine parts
Jason Engle whats your opinion on a bullydog triple dog power pup with crasy larry in a late 07 5.9 cummins?
@@bennyteichroeb1894 trash
Why not use electric pump next to fuel tank, something like airdog lift pump?
you looked very tired at 1am haha great video!
Built many many Dodge truck o drive transmissions. The BIGGEST killer was a restrictor in the cooler lines it stopped any fluid going to the back of unit. Burned o drive (in back).
To a crisp!!. Built many owner pulled trailers. I retired bad health in 2007. Done a cpl for brother. He burned his 4l60e snow plow...
You want to do another video with my truck ?
You should do a common rail 03-05 because we are the forgotten electronic Cummins
I agree, I feel like my '03 is lost in time.
My 05 came with 325hp stock. That one in the video is a dog lol. 180hp?! Wtf
@@teds4983 that's the power at the crank yours is probably more like 212 at the wheels
@@j.strachan2510 no shit, but its not going to lose that damn much. Not to mention my tuner alone will give me 175hp. Not to mention my injectors and cold air
ted s lol ya your tuner is giving you 175 hp...idiot
you guys should do a "new transmission and clean up that wiring mess"" contest.
i wonder how long before that little turbo blows up.
Most all i fi d is pioneers flex plates.
Cool video guys! The camera work was BAD (interviews were constantly rocking back and forth).
Love the videos you guys have me hooked to the channel.. time for some powerstroke stuff lol
PowerDrivenDiesel that mechanically drivin pump would sell like hot cakes on the powerstroke world.. I'm looking for 500 600 in my excursion and would love one..
Awesome video and that's awesome hooking that kid up with some good parts
Did this.................Kiss that fuel economy bye bye, I get the same mileage as a gas 460 baaaaad
So glad I’m p pumping my 24V tired of that VP
after 1pm he got fried
I love you guys. And your products are absolutely great none better in qaylity or the amount of energy put into building them. I wish you would do something on driveshafts rear aluminium in particular. I'd like to see how much torque they will take before they shred I have one in my stock 2004 ram 24 valve so far so good even pulling a load of hay down the road around 33000 stock settings as far as I'm aware on timing.
This video is awesome. I recently purchased my first diesel truck. It's a 98 2500 4wd NV4500 Cummings. It has an Edge with attitude and an airdog 150 100 horse injectors and a big turbo. A southbend clutch and airbags in the back. The trucks been sitting for around 4 years it needs a lot of work. I know it needs a transfer case rebuilt and possibly a clutch. It currently will make 50 to 55 pounds of boost. Do I need head studs and fire rings?
Thank you for the reply. As I was definitely considering the fire rings. I am just trying to optimize what is already there. Rebuild the turbo. Different wheel in it. I don't want more boost just want it sooner. A different exhaust manifold that the turbo can bolt to and an intake horn to start. Are there any companies you would suggest sourcing parts from?
Curious, is this truck still alive?
This is amazing. I have a 2002 DRW 4x4 that I tow my camper with. I would love to have a setup like this so that I can pull better and not have my foot on the floor when climbing hills. Thanks for the watch
Really impressed. Your dedication making tunes that work really paid off. Unbelievable power with stock components. Super stoked to see what you can do with my truck.
Thank you very much!
Gotta love that. Does reliability suffer?
Great video
I thought you were going to do a dyno run with injectors only? Was one done before the exhaust? If so what was the difference?
Lucky guy !!
LOL as soon as he said how many miles are on that stock transmission, I was waiting for him to say "Um........... we should not be doubling your horsepower & torque then
Lil buddy punches holes in drywall and calls his 19yo gf his “old lady.”
Do you have a link to your mechanically driven lift pump? I couldn’t find it on your website for this model.
This my favorite diesel channel!!
How much does that good Torque converter cost? I have a stock 24 valve with the 48 transmission. And like you said seems like the Torque converter slips after we put and 75 horse edge tuner in it.
that stock turbo was staying come hell or high water lol
@@pddofficial That's great guys, over all an excellent outcome, that original trans was already on deaths door I think
I’m from Utah as well in Sandy, #kelleymobiledetail having a 2014 Ram 3500 6.7L w/ Asian trans delete(which i feel is weak) S&B cold air, pedal commander, and today we’re looking at working on 2 injectors. Would love to meet and come by your shop. Love to learn and trade work if possible?
“It’s now about.. one in the morning... umm..” literally my weekly life lol
Now you need to do a DOUBLE YOUR POWER contest for the 6.2/6.5 GM diesel :) LOL
+mcgyverdude... Well hell, that's simple. Just transplant a Cummins. Done. LOL
Not so simple. Did you watch Finnegan put one in his 70s ramp truck? I've got a marine 6.5 in my '84 suburban now, and I just added a holset hx35. Maybe in the near future....
I had a '98.5 24v/47re . Nice straight 2wd with a long bed. But the freakin' truck was literally falling apart around the engine and I couldn't keep up with all the repairs. I finally decided to cut my losses and sell it after the vp44 and the trans both took a crap within a few months of each other. Oh yeah, it was a 53 block.
I enjoey 24 v really looking more out of 12 v i know i can turn up my fule pump and gane 30 more horse im happy auto matic trans
What about doubling a stock 12 valve?? Have 97' Dodge ram 2500 4x4, Auto w/5.9 and with only 49,000 miles on it. Been garaged most it's life and looks like new with only few bumps ... one in front bumper and one in back bumper, which both going to be replaced. Anyway, use it for towing camper trailer and flatbed trailer. Noticed when on freeway it slows on hills a little more than want sooo.... my question would be what upgrades for the money do you think would work best to help it get up and move a bit better and do better at towing. Only thing i've done was add a Banks air box inlet. So, can you help a guy with his 1st diesel truck? Thanks, and can't wait to get it up and moving faster and performing better at towing.
You can see the life in this dudes face drain as he realizes they might be dropping cash on a turbo and then how ecstatic he was that they didn’t have to.... clowns
They should have put the $1,200 turbo on it instead of the $2,500 aftermarket VP44. I want to call them names for their buffoonery, but I want to try to stay civil.
Not sure showing a grenaded engine at the end of the video was the best choice to sell your product.
I agree but these guys aren't all about money, they love the entertainment too!
Looked on the website for the mechanical fuel pump and cant find it. Do you guys sell these bad boys yet?
Which is a better engine
12 valve or the 24 valve
For over all power and tourqe
24 for power 12 for reliability 👍
Hindsight is always 20/20 but boy it sure seems like this video from that era put power driven diesel on the map! A million people can’t be wrong. I immediately went to the website to buy that mechanical fuel pump, but couldn’t find it anywhere? What’s the story on that? You guys are awesome!
The manufacture of the pump that we used stopped making it during covid and have not found a suitable replacement.
My brother and i both got quadzillas and 150 hp injectors with stock turbo and easily made 411 to the wheels with custom tuning. Mine was never on a dyno but would take off on my brothers who had been on a dyno(stock auto trans but we don’t recommend that and he got lucky with how long it lasted before giving out) at least up until the top end cause my gearing is slightly different because auto vs 5 speed manual. If they really slapped a 2k hp convertor in here for free on top of injectors and a $1k tuner and new vp id be slapping a fat turbo and head studs at it asap. Lucky for me i have a manual and a southbend and head studs have been done. Finally got all my parts to slap the big turbo sittin in my garage at it to make some real power.
I’ll be ordering a bunch from y’all’s site I would love to be able to talk to you guys to see what all I need basically what parts go together that way I’m not bottling my truck
Absolutely we have Tim and Griffith there Mon-Fri 8-5mst that would be happy to help!
What about doubling horsepower in a common rail? I got a sick build I’m throwing together with a six gun on3 twin kit with Ppe twin cp3 and 100hp injectors what do you think I will make? I’m hoping to be at 750hp but don’t know if I spent enough lol I got valve springs and push rods to so I’m hoping for a good number what is your in put
Wouldn't one need to also upgrade the differentials with the boost in power? Just curious.
I guessed 200HP to the rear wheels. It was 182HP. 400 something on the torque, still a nice tow rig even stock. I have a similar truck 2000, 2500, I bought it with a bad lift pump. Working on it now.
Do mine next, bone stock 04 3500 with 640,××× miles. She has been babied. I'll make it easy on you, she got an NV5600 and I dont need no darn muffler.
No Idea y’all were in cedar city, moving down there this august!
Jared looks like the kid from Jurassic Park who said he wasn’t scared of the raptors
You guys are amazing! Please keep these videos coming !
again you guys are awesome for doing something like this for your customers and fans. that mechanical lift pump is a great idea leave it to the all mechanical minds of power driven diesel.
Great video, but why would you use an exposed "belt" to drive the mechanical lift pump? If/when that belt breaks you are going to be in a lot of trouble.
I run a mechanical lift pump similar to this setup and it's a toothed belt that is NOT under tension. I assume PowerDrivenDiesel's pump is the same setup. If so, these belts will probably outlast the truck (if you live up here in Michigan where rust is destined to kill the truck) as the belts are really not under any kind of strain whatsoever. Even so, when doing a mechanical pump you also have the ability to use your factory electric pump as a backup, and to rig it up so that it automatically kicks in if the belt were to break. This will at least get you stock pressure for you to drive it home and work on it. That is how I run mine. The electric pump still runs for priming, and if my pressure drops below 10 it kicks in automatically.
great job at making the intercooler / turbo the weak part of the engine xD