@@TakiUdon Hey Taki, I think you need to revisit some of your previous devices. I know you're an early adopter and involved with the companies, but things do change over time. I haven't heard much complaints about screen tearing in a while. It's a common issue with Low QC, early screen batches, and unoptimised software.
LOL theres ALWAYS going to be a more powerful device in the future!!!! Everythings just going to get better! its how long you want to wait lol ive got rgb10 max 2 thoroughly happy with what it can do and happy to be tied over till something even better and affordable and small comes out thatss not a mini laptop or mini risk..... but im getting that collector voice in me now sayng oooh thats nice!!!!! if its 50$ then im in trouble lol rgb10 max2 has the right size.... its similar in size to vita / switch lite has dual symmetrical analogues and stacked shoulders...... theres a few devices out now that beat the power of it.... but for the price when i bought it, it was perfect for 100...... im happy to wait for future devices that match the rgb10max 2 in size and ergonomics, price and beat its power..... and with the speed these devices are coming out youre almost spoilt by choice and power and variation! the portable/handheld landscape is crowded as heck and as competitive as ever!!! wonder if sony will do a vita 2 now lol and what nintys next thing will be..... theyve got to compete with retro emulation of their very own legacy titles as well as compete with steamdeck or the aya neos etc im predicting prices of new portables from ninty or sony to be 300+ 350+ from now on.... no more 199
Lol I finally got a Miyoo Mini this week when it restocked at the official store and so I thought immediately of course something better comes out now once I've placed an order. However after seeing this I am relieved because the Miyoo Mini still seems like it's the better product. Whew!
@@AshTheAntiHero So I got a Miyoo Mini for a friend birthday back in June and had a chance to fiddle with it and just having the additional l2 r2 buttons and what seems to be a better screen, and the fact that it's cheaper, you totally made the right decision.
Miyoo mini was almost perfect. But it’s really fragile. my screen died from a very light drop while INSIDE the case. I’ll get this one while I wait for the upcoming miyoo mini horizontal
Another great review Taki. Its a nice looking device that has a few upgrades over the Miyoo Mini such as Bluetooth/WiFi + form factor yet for the asking price I'd still aim for the Mini as its surprisingly capable with some classic ports and the cfw/modability make it the go to pocket device... If only Miyoo finally released the landscape version we're all after as this one comes oh so close!?
Almost that GBA Micro form factor I'm looking for. If it had the auto resume of funkey OS with wifi for retro achievements I'd buy it. Conductive rubber buttons and a decent screen preferably too.
@@Pridetoons We need oled screen, at least 2 gb ram and this shitty handheld has ugly and poor buttons + trimui logo only for 99$. Holy shit 99 dollars. It's better to use some smartfon with oled and controller like ipega.
Hm. After the Miyoo mini, these things will have a hard time, when they such low res screens. Plus how they can mess up the scaling for GB and GBC _so_ badly is just incredible. Why not just go with Core Provided as defaults for all systems? You could still change them if you were to prefer something else. But a, what is it, 5:3 or 3:2 for GB/GBC gives headaches.
Thanks Taki, for always keeping us on top of what cool retro handhelds are coming.. Ordered a purple one. This one comes the absolute closest to GBA Micro screen size. And the size/comfort looks pretty great!
Dreamcast is a minimum these devices should run up to. Stopping at PS1 is just too limiting. I understand maybe not supporting PSP and GameCube, but Dreamcast is 1998 tech and pretty easy to emulate at this point, nearly a quarter century later.
@@Vulpas The Dreamcast is basically more powerful than the PS2, it's definitely not that easy to emulate on low-end SoC. Plus, that thing is meant to be portable, you need a bigger device to add a stick, it's not for the same market as the Retroid Pocket 2+ or the Ayn Odin at all.
@@MrCed122 Dreamcast is not more powerful than PS2, they're roughly equal in terms of power, but PS2 is harder to emulate like some systems tend to be (Saturn is weak but tricky to emulate). There's not much of a correlation between power and difficulty in emulation. Switch is easy to emulate but PS3 & all Xbox consoles are tough. In fact, most Nintendo systems are easy input N64 is tough.
I have a RP2+ but my interest in this is it's small screen size. 2.4" as opposed to 3.5". It's just a personal taste thing. But I look forward to playing gameboy advance roms on this due to it's smaller screen size.
@@MrCed122 the Dreamcast is not more powerful than the ps2... And psp emulation is easier to do than dream cast emulation to anyone who doesn't know that.
Despite that, it has lots of bezel space, and the screen is only 2.4inches size. It's not that much different in size to the PowKiddy V90, Anbernic 280V, PowKiddy RGB20 Mini, Miyoo Mini, GKD Mini Plus, or the new Anbernic RG353VS. But that USD $80 price does make this one easy to skip. You would be better off with one of the cheaper devices I listed above. Or even the BittBoy Pocket Go, PowKiddy Q20 Mini, Anbernic 300X, Anbernic RG280M, or PowKiddy RGB10S. These are fairly similar sized devices, coming at lower price and better community support. But these are all pocketable devices, so you should just skip all of them and get a very cheap Anbernic RG351p instead. If you want to splurge a bit, there's the Retroid Pocket 3, it's double the price but four times as useful. And for the real geeks out there, grab a Used Samsung S10+, 512GB microSD card, and Razer JungleCat. Will do what the capable RP3 can do but with a better screen, longer battery life, and loads more features.
Pros and cons with screen size. At least with this, you won't break the screen if you drop it. Lots of miyoo mini's shattering with the bezel being so thin. Wish it was about 20pct bigger with the select start buttons somewhere else but still has enough of a bezel to protect the screen.
@@Kevin-du5vf lol it’s all good bro! my run was great with me doing 11.11mi (i like angel #’s) with an avg pace of 8:40😏 also, the barnes and noble i got to afterwards had vol.11 of tokyo ghoul in stock (they rarely have the manga i want in stock). So, let’s gooooooo!!!!!
Hey taki, ever considered doing an expanded video on the aya neo air? There's some software on steam called lossless scaling which allows nearly any game to essentially be upscaled from a lower resolution which allows lower spec windows handhelds to run aaa games that don't have native fsr or nvidia upscaling. It would be nice to show off a video doing as such.
Well for PSX emulation will be simple button combine wil be the important thing for lack of l2 and r2. Here is my personal setup if the company can program it on the psx emu. (For L2 and R2 to work quickly just bind the trimui select button as L2 and rhe start button as R2 then using a combination of holding the menu button down plus tapping L1 trigger button will activate PSX select button, then holding menu button plus R1 trigger button will activate psx Start button for pausing in game and all that. Now for the emulator menu to appear for save state and Load state and exit emulator just hold menu button plus L1 and R1 to activate menu) And thats my personal setup if the company can update there emulator to do this all the fans can rejoice.
Thanks Taki, good stuff. I'm also glad you brought up the horizontal miyoo mini at the end. I was just going to buy a horizontal device and glad for this video. I was debating between the powkiddy q90 or the playgo v2. I wanted to stay under about 60/70$ and wanted to stay at ps1 /cps3 or under for consoles. What would your choice be? Or just hold off till the horizontal miyoo mini hits? I'll add that I like the form factor and screen size of the playgo the most. I see an "upgraded" or v2 version on Ali right now in black. I'd love to know you're thoughts
Q90 would not be in my consideration. It has the same screen tearing issue that I showed in this video, and the processor is not that good for PS1. There's no telling when Miyoo will release their horizontal device (they've been behind on releasing the P60 for 9 months so far), so that leaves you with used RG350 devices or a PlayGo as the best option for under ~$60. Both share the same processor, and I wouldn't pay more than $60 to get a JZ4770 in 2022. If you can find one for the advertised price of $60 or less, it might also be worth considering an RK2020. It can do a lot more than what you need, and it's better than the PGv2.
@@LolaliciousSmiley i disagree lmaoooooo. as a person who’s been a lifeguard for 6 years( im 22now and have finally quit bc of class scheduling), i’ve always found running easier to do and feel as though it’s more freeing ^ - ^
LOVE the look of it, been wanting a small but powerful emulation machine made to play 2D games perfectly. Shame about the lack of R2/L2 making PS1 games really limited. Also shame about screen tearing, that's a deal breaker for me. Maybe software patch will fix the issue.
This looks like a very nice device and a great pocket size. I think I'd personally prefer something just a little bigger. Something like a 3" 480p screen would probably be ideal without starting to get too big. I think I'd go with the landscape miyoo mini between the 3
I am really digging the size of the device, but wished that they could somehow fit a slightly bigger screen and done stacked shoulder buttons for those L2/R2 buttons. It automatically ixnays PS1 titles without the extra buttons which is what I would have wanted it for. Anyhow, happy with my Miyoo Mini until then.
I just got the Trimui model S the other day for something to jump in and out of during work breaks. I'm not sure why it being slightly thinner makes me more comfortable having it in my pants pocket compared to the Miyoo Mini. Maybe I'm just too overprotective of these cheap little handhelds lol
I've had the A66/Model S for a long time now. It's great. Extremely tiny and perfect for taking on the go. Even with my wallet in my pocket as well. My biggest complaint was the Very loud buttons, which this seems to have as well. I also don't like the look of this new model. Although it is much more powerful and the battery is twice the size.
I fell in love with PocketGo early on and I still think the white finished plastic is the classiest thing on this market looking exactly like Arctic White GBA, just above some of the metal cases like RG280. So I hunted down up to 3 of them for under $99 total with case bundles and other nick nacks, a really good choice. Granted, as complete package Mini is the nicest looking pocketable and needs a bit of care as well. 3 miYoo originals aren't that much worse in performance, none of the competition really pushed to "actually good" levels like reliable PS1 and Arcade emulation. But on that flipside they already got down the passable perfomance back then, and with swapping SD cards the combined battery life is just crazy levels. To begin with PocketGo eats SO LITTLE of its battery by not having any bells and whistles like wifi. They have some old 50hz mobile phone screen that looks nice with colors and is really sturdy, not that having 3 I would need to worry about breaking one or run out of spare parts. You can tell they really amke an effort on the casing jsut being desigend smart, and avoid a lot of problems like with the PowKiddy plastic matchboxes. I had a huge problem with Vita in that I just don't have the heart to bring it ANYWHERE. Pocketgos I take literally EVERYWHERE, the question is how many. If I have time to play an JRPG I might take the time to play a platformer at the same time as well, or run a game side by side in different languages.
As of August 2023, this is my favorite (chinese) portable console, because it is actually portable, fits in my pocket and only weighs 100g. And it plays cps3 games and has the best dpad on any chinese console I have ever tested, excep the trsimui model s has an equally good dpad. There is nothing else remotely comparable to this device on the market now or even in the past, unless you count the gameboy micro, which I also have. If I have the space/weight (which is rarely do in my pockets), I would take a ps vita slim or a new 3ds of course, but who has that kind of space/weight allowance in their pockets?
Cool for SNES and some PSX games that don't require the joystick, however you would be better playing GB games on a GB micro, and because of the previously mentioned lack of joystick makes it a suboptimal option for some of the best PSX games (MGS, RE trilogy, Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve 2, GT, FFVIII, FFIX, Dino Crisis 2, Spyro trilogy, Vagrant Story, Chrono Cross, Ape Escape, Crash 2, Crash 3, Wipeout 3...), not to mention that Tekken 3 doesn't work. So you have to really love SNES games in this form factor and be okay with having this and a second device for playing joystick supported PSX games.
I was hoping to see a Powkiddy A66 and an Anbernic RG300X within that collection of handhelds you displayed. Actually, the same program and interface of this Trumui Smart is on the Powkiddy A66.
@@ben66562 It is a very unique and impressive micro handheld for sure. Both the PowKiddy A66 and the Powkiddy X17 are underrated and not mentioned enough.
I have a Miyoo Mini... I use it when I need something ultra portable and my Steam Deck is just too big to take around everywhere. Even the little bigger screen makes it a better value. I was hoping this was MORE powerful than the Mini but, I guess not. Most PS1 games are fine on the mini.. I'll stick with the mini, thanks for the vid...
I’m trying to decide between the rp3 and the Miyoo mini. I want to be able to take it to school so I can play whenever I have some time where I’m not doing anything. I like how small and cheap the Miyoo mini is compared to the rp3 but I like how the rp3 can play more consoles. Which do you think would be the best option for me?
Very capable little machine, and well thought thru!! - i was about to buy the powkiddy q36, but opted for the retroid pocket 2 (my current handheld) cuz of the screensize, greets Levi in Sweden
I think it doesn't get talked about too often because a lot of people just can't tell; unless they are watching slow motion video or the system has slowed down so much that a regular person can notice.
Looks cute, only things that put me off are it's a little pricey and the screen is rather small. I think you could still keep the same form factor and have a slightly bigger screen if the buttons were better placed.
I'd like to see Wonder Swan's button layout in a spiritual successor device like these. Basically a second D-pad along side the main D-pad to play vertical orientation games properly. Also horizontal games that have their vertical moments. So far the 8bitdo Lite controller made that possible, but that's not a built in controller thing.
This is almost perfect for what I want to do with it. Gift cute little sleek toy looking handhelds to the family PERFECT form factor to compliment the old school handhelds. Some companies overdo it
I like this one. I have a pocket go and I really like that it is small. The sound isn't so good on the pocket go so something that can play SNES and Genesis and it small is pretty cool to me.
I guess the dpad is good, although I wish more detail was given regarding fighting game suitability, (can you do dragon punches?). Since it is a pocketable device, would be good to know how it is in the pocket. And the 2 player wifi is a unique feature which would be very good to know about. As would the ability to connect an 8bitdo zero 2 to it via bluetooth and play 2 player games.
For me this portable missed the opportunity to go full on retro Gameboy design. If one of these portable came with only two A and B buttons, instead of four A, B, C, D, it could make those two buttons bigger like the original Gameboy ones and truly own that 8 bit and lower system feel. With only one L and R shoulder buttons it's not like PlayStation is going to practical anyway, so I think it's a bit of a missed opportunity to nail that low system Gameboy, Master System, and NES feel in the hand.
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's an exact hardware clone, meaning you can just take the SD card formatted for either and it will work for both Q90 and pocketgo/miyoo original. Powkiddy V90 might also be and that's really popular, in practice it will be compatible with same CFW. That's not to say they are "the same company" or that they're different, they just all swim around the funky chinese copyright law. And yes, there IS one, it' s just not the same thing as Google copyright in the West. The "same people" making any of these devices, well, there's 1B of them, they're called The Chinese. So do not go assuming Miyoo Mini or Playgo are compatible. Basically all these "companies" are just dropshipping companies like Soulja Boy. They don't ALL pay license like the Sony Phillips license that goes with EVERY DVD sale, they just DO the job. A "company name" like MiYoo exists only for branding, so that it seems to be the same device in the eyes of the buyer. It's basically like being "the company" that makes all the JPG files, it's nonsense. But if you DO make a JPG, obviously it has to open with MS Paint. This is a bit hard to imagine in the West where every IP not owned by google is behind lock and key, and a million ways to forbid ANYONE to create copies without explicit permission. And without usury.
So why is the Miyoo Mini not a good option for a device at this size? I haven't heard any overall negative reviews about it anywhere online. I also have it and think it's great. There are other good options as well like the Anbernic 280v. And honestly if I want performance better than PS1 I'd prefer a device with a bigger screen.
I need to know if the wifi will allow me to hunt for retroachievements on this thing! It at least gives me hope that CFW will come along and give us that functionality
My favorite handhelds have clicky buttons and they are usually a safe bet for companies like this because they are so simple, but these guys already know how to make good rubber buttons, so it's a shame they didn't on this.
Always annoyed when they give you a device powerful enough for quad shoulder buttons but they insist on GBA style dual shoulder buttons. I already have a lot of retro handhelds so why would I bother with this one when it's not only missing buttons, but it's more expensive than the superior Miyoo Mini?
It would be nice for these small devices to have stereo which would really help offset the lack of immersion with such a small screen. (One thing I really like about the Retroid Pocket 2+)
May I ask what's the pt for powerful CPU for games like psx when you can't even have enough buttons to play psx games? And the screen of miyoo mini v2 is the smallest screen I can bare before it went into just plain novelty item like a game gear mini. You are really not going to play that for more than 15min before putting it down and grab another bigger screen device. A no go for me. Thanks for the preview/review tho.
They made the tearing less, but it is still there. I showed the software "fix" in this video. You can see that it still has screen tearing. It's just less than what it was originally. Watch from 04:07 and compare to the device at 04:25. That is the difference between stock PocketGo firmware and the "fixed" firmware. It's better, but it still tears.
Can you even get PocketGo anymore? The way these work is the specific build is supplied with old mobile phone screens et cetera, so they're basically limited releases. Of course clones like Q90 will be around adn the support forums will never go away, nor will the aftermarket. lol at you tho for going "basically unuseable" and display f-ing Pokemon. What graphic is going to break, the sprite sliding into the battle? The whole point is to see manufacturers and the community work with what they've got. It's the same way all GBA games are already not worth playing, because the audio rendering is really terrible on software level and Nintendo made all the devs work with THAT. There's no point praisng pocketgo for graphics or make excuses for it, but I play portable kind of games like Minsh Cap, One Piece Mansion and Shadows Of Mystara FINE on it. Occasionally Megaman X3 and 4, but just being portable is a bigger hindrance than the screen tearing, to choosing those kinds of games in such a hurry I can't even go home and sit down with a nice controller.
One point I kinda disagree with is that, if other devices already offer rubber buttons, then that's even more reason for there to be an alternative like this for people who prefer it this way.
😄 That is what I was thinking as well. People are comparing it to the switch and steamdeck, but I think the better comparison is the Odin. I think it should be decent for retro gaming since it has the play store. Few people have currently mentioned this. I hope you do a review. I really appreciate your content. Have a great day!
Having seen a gazillion reviews f devices with the same or more power not being able to fluidly play the systems that this can does tend to illustrate how software can often the real Achilles heel to satisfaction. This one has a screen that is too small for me but its actual performance is impressive for what is under the bonnet (hood).
I still have my 10+ years old Gp2x Wiz with OLED screen. Gave me many many hours of fun thoughI can'tof course play anything beyond 16bit era but for those I have my PSP or PSVita. I never tried any of the current models so does anyone know how the WIZ holds up to them? The only thing I dislike on it is the mushy dpad and buttons.
I managed to luck out on handhelds with a $100 second hand GPD XD. Idk this little thing in the video doesn't look that appealing to me, for the most part you're restricted to GBA, SNES and anything that came before those. Missing buttons for ps1 is a problem. The overall size is awfully small, to the point you're holding the entire thing with only the tips of your fingers. Though I guess that's the charm of the "super tiny" handhelds. Dome buttons are something I personally like, DS and 3DS had some clicky buttons and I loved them very much, GPD by comparison uses incredibly soft rubber for the buttons. Battery looks tiny, makes me worried about how many hours one can actually get out of it. Though it's not running the super bloated android so it should beat the 3DS' battery life, I'd like to see that tested. At least it being a generic cell means getting a replacement shouldn't be a challenge. It having 8gb of internal and not opening that up to the user feels like they have really cheaped out on the nand and did this lock to prevent wear on it. And the pricing is also not great, I checked the link while watching the video, $80 discount price with a $100 marked as the original price, the portability really is at a premium here. Idk, this needed R2, L2 and maybe 2 more dedicated macro buttons, in my head, at the $100 price point, the emulation device has to be fully capable of ps1.
Thanks for the video. I love these smaller devices too, but still think there is room for a better pocket device...these are too thick. The old TrimUI for me was closest. Something so thin that could can put in your pocket without noticing. I get why people like the Miyoo Mini, but I hardly ever use it. Too small to want to play at home when I have an RP2+ that is way better and still a good small option. And if I want a device to throw in my pocket, the Miyoo is still thick enough to make me hesitate to always grab it. The older TrimUI/A66 was perfect in this regard, so small I didn't notice it. Unfortunately the quality issues and performance there was bad. Mine broke after a week and some buttons were sticky out of the box. Was really hoping this would be a true successor but they made it way bigger.
With half resolution and more powerful processor, the performance should be very good. I think there will be some interesting points with the wifi like the use of moonlight, remote roms, netplay, third apps or content dl
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3:27 - IPS (Even though I wish it was OLED)
Yeah, I too, was surprised. Does someone actually makes such small OLEDs?
@@Artemas_16 Yes, but not in the aspect ratios that are useful for devices like this.
And is it actually 320x240 just rotated 90 degrees?
@@TakiUdon Hey Taki, I think you need to revisit some of your previous devices. I know you're an early adopter and involved with the companies, but things do change over time.
I haven't heard much complaints about screen tearing in a while. It's a common issue with Low QC, early screen batches, and unoptimised software.
@@Artemas_16 yes circular screen are small and amoled.
This handheld looks so profesional and minimalistic
I hope they design a much more powerful device in the future
LOL theres ALWAYS going to be a more powerful device in the future!!!! Everythings just going to get better! its how long you want to wait lol ive got rgb10 max 2 thoroughly happy with what it can do and happy to be tied over till something even better and affordable and small comes out thatss not a mini laptop or mini risk..... but im getting that collector voice in me now sayng oooh thats nice!!!!! if its 50$ then im in trouble lol
rgb10 max2 has the right size.... its similar in size to vita / switch lite has dual symmetrical analogues and stacked shoulders...... theres a few devices out now that beat the power of it.... but for the price when i bought it, it was perfect for 100...... im happy to wait for future devices that match the rgb10max 2 in size and ergonomics, price and beat its power.....
and with the speed these devices are coming out youre almost spoilt by choice and power and variation! the portable/handheld landscape is crowded as heck and as competitive as ever!!! wonder if sony will do a vita 2 now lol and what nintys next thing will be..... theyve got to compete with retro emulation of their very own legacy titles as well as compete with steamdeck or the aya neos etc
im predicting prices of new portables from ninty or sony to be 300+ 350+ from now on.... no more 199
Yeah so far this is my favorite of the "mini" ones. Even though it's not tiny like the gameboy micro. It's small enough for my tastes.
This comment aged like wine lol 😆🤣 about to get this and the trimui smart pro
I love this form factor, especially the type c port with it.
Lol I finally got a Miyoo Mini this week when it restocked at the official store and so I thought immediately of course something better comes out now once I've placed an order. However after seeing this I am relieved because the Miyoo Mini still seems like it's the better product. Whew!
I'm in the same position, I myself waiting for my miyoo to arrive, and seeing this got me unsure on whether I made the right decision
@@AshTheAntiHero So I got a Miyoo Mini for a friend birthday back in June and had a chance to fiddle with it and just having the additional l2 r2 buttons and what seems to be a better screen, and the fact that it's cheaper, you totally made the right decision.
I'm going to buy both Handhelds.
It'll take a while before something better than the miyoo mini releases for the same price tag. Honestly this device is not even close.
Miyoo mini was almost perfect. But it’s really fragile. my screen died from a very light drop while INSIDE the case. I’ll get this one while I wait for the upcoming miyoo mini horizontal
Another great review Taki. Its a nice looking device that has a few upgrades over the Miyoo Mini such as Bluetooth/WiFi + form factor yet for the asking price I'd still aim for the Mini as its surprisingly capable with some classic ports and the cfw/modability make it the go to pocket device... If only Miyoo finally released the landscape version we're all after as this one comes oh so close!?
I think this device is for people who want a GameBoy Micro replacement like me.
Almost that GBA Micro form factor I'm looking for.
If it had the auto resume of funkey OS with wifi for retro achievements I'd buy it. Conductive rubber buttons and a decent screen preferably too.
I really miss small handheld gaming devices like this!
Same here, I'm looking for a GameBoy Micro replacement. This might be it.
I think this is what people wished the GBA micro was.
@@Pridetoons We need oled screen, at least 2 gb ram and this shitty handheld has ugly and poor buttons + trimui logo only for 99$. Holy shit 99 dollars. It's better to use some smartfon with oled and controller like ipega.
@@Fioletowooki got mine for $27
That performance and portability is very impressive. If only it has l2 and r2 button for ps1 gaming.
@@spritsfal5088 a handful yeah like spyro and crash iirc
@@spritsfal5088 in Final Fantasy VIII you should press L2+R2 if you want to run from random battle.
completely not for that specs/ poor optimization ruins everything
Hm. After the Miyoo mini, these things will have a hard time, when they such low res screens. Plus how they can mess up the scaling for GB and GBC _so_ badly is just incredible. Why not just go with Core Provided as defaults for all systems? You could still change them if you were to prefer something else. But a, what is it, 5:3 or 3:2 for GB/GBC gives headaches.
Commercial failure? Original hardware is better.
Yeah that scaling looks terrible
The Miyoo Mini kinda hit it right with the screen size imo.
Thanks Taki, for always keeping us on top of what cool retro handhelds are coming.. Ordered a purple one. This one comes the absolute closest to GBA Micro screen size. And the size/comfort looks pretty great!
How is it?
I'll stick with the retroid pocket 2+
It just does way more. Psp, and Dreamcast, are enough to make it worth it imo.
Dreamcast is a minimum these devices should run up to. Stopping at PS1 is just too limiting. I understand maybe not supporting PSP and GameCube, but Dreamcast is 1998 tech and pretty easy to emulate at this point, nearly a quarter century later.
@@Vulpas The Dreamcast is basically more powerful than the PS2, it's definitely not that easy to emulate on low-end SoC. Plus, that thing is meant to be portable, you need a bigger device to add a stick, it's not for the same market as the Retroid Pocket 2+ or the Ayn Odin at all.
@@MrCed122 Dreamcast is not more powerful than PS2, they're roughly equal in terms of power, but PS2 is harder to emulate like some systems tend to be (Saturn is weak but tricky to emulate). There's not much of a correlation between power and difficulty in emulation. Switch is easy to emulate but PS3 & all Xbox consoles are tough. In fact, most Nintendo systems are easy input N64 is tough.
I have a RP2+ but my interest in this is it's small screen size. 2.4" as opposed to 3.5". It's just a personal taste thing. But I look forward to playing gameboy advance roms on this due to it's smaller screen size.
@@MrCed122 the Dreamcast is not more powerful than the ps2... And psp emulation is easier to do than dream cast emulation to anyone who doesn't know that.
The screen is like 1/3 of the device lmao
Despite that, it has lots of bezel space, and the screen is only 2.4inches size. It's not that much different in size to the PowKiddy V90, Anbernic 280V, PowKiddy RGB20 Mini, Miyoo Mini, GKD Mini Plus, or the new Anbernic RG353VS. But that USD $80 price does make this one easy to skip.
You would be better off with one of the cheaper devices I listed above. Or even the BittBoy Pocket Go, PowKiddy Q20 Mini, Anbernic 300X, Anbernic RG280M, or PowKiddy RGB10S. These are fairly similar sized devices, coming at lower price and better community support.
But these are all pocketable devices, so you should just skip all of them and get a very cheap Anbernic RG351p instead. If you want to splurge a bit, there's the Retroid Pocket 3, it's double the price but four times as useful.
And for the real geeks out there, grab a Used Samsung S10+, 512GB microSD card, and Razer JungleCat. Will do what the capable RP3 can do but with a better screen, longer battery life, and loads more features.
Miyoo mini is the new standard, the bezel on this looks ridiculous
Pros and cons with screen size.
At least with this, you won't break the screen if you drop it. Lots of miyoo mini's shattering with the bezel being so thin. Wish it was about 20pct bigger with the select start buttons somewhere else but still has enough of a bezel to protect the screen.
@@Angultra What bezel?
It's basically a GameBoy Micro replacement. I want this handheld.
Let's go!! Something to watch while I dump my insides in the toilet this fine Sunday morning!
LOL
damn… u made fun of me and got a reply from him…smh
God Damn, that's so gross!!! 🤣
😂😂😂 sorry I had to
@@Kevin-du5vf lol it’s all good bro! my run was great with me doing 11.11mi (i like angel #’s) with an avg pace of 8:40😏 also, the barnes and noble
i got to afterwards had vol.11 of tokyo ghoul in stock (they rarely have the manga i want in stock). So, let’s gooooooo!!!!!
Hey taki, ever considered doing an expanded video on the aya neo air?
There's some software on steam called lossless scaling which allows nearly any game to essentially be upscaled from a lower resolution which allows lower spec windows handhelds to run aaa games that don't have native fsr or nvidia upscaling.
It would be nice to show off a video doing as such.
Well for PSX emulation will be simple button combine wil be the important thing for lack of l2 and r2.
Here is my personal setup if the company can program it on the psx emu.
(For L2 and R2 to work quickly just bind the trimui select button as L2 and rhe start button as R2 then using a combination of holding the menu button down plus tapping L1 trigger button will activate PSX select button, then holding menu button plus R1 trigger button will activate psx Start button for pausing in game and all that. Now for the emulator menu to appear for save state and Load state and exit emulator just hold menu button plus L1 and R1 to activate menu)
And thats my personal setup if the company can update there emulator to do this all the fans can rejoice.
Due to the limitations of control inputs, we can’t go beyond 16 bit console and some arcade games.
that FFTA demo, for the GBA section.
just earned you my sub.
This looks pretty clean👍 Edit Taki voice is so cool, be sure to bring him back.
Thanks! Dome switches? - great! Clicky D-pads and buttons are my favorites now :)
Thanks Taki, good stuff. I'm also glad you brought up the horizontal miyoo mini at the end. I was just going to buy a horizontal device and glad for this video. I was debating between the powkiddy q90 or the playgo v2. I wanted to stay under about 60/70$ and wanted to stay at ps1 /cps3 or under for consoles. What would your choice be? Or just hold off till the horizontal miyoo mini hits? I'll add that I like the form factor and screen size of the playgo the most. I see an "upgraded" or v2 version on Ali right now in black. I'd love to know you're thoughts
Q90 would not be in my consideration. It has the same screen tearing issue that I showed in this video, and the processor is not that good for PS1. There's no telling when Miyoo will release their horizontal device (they've been behind on releasing the P60 for 9 months so far), so that leaves you with used RG350 devices or a PlayGo as the best option for under ~$60. Both share the same processor, and I wouldn't pay more than $60 to get a JZ4770 in 2022.
If you can find one for the advertised price of $60 or less, it might also be worth considering an RK2020. It can do a lot more than what you need, and it's better than the PGv2.
It’s mid-2024, the Miyoo A30 and Anbernic RG28XX are now released and I just bought the Trimui Smart for just under £30.
let’s go!! something to watch while i head to the lake to go run this fine sunday morning!
It's easier to swim!
@@LolaliciousSmiley i disagree lmaoooooo. as a person who’s been a lifeguard for 6 years( im 22now and have finally quit bc of class scheduling), i’ve always found running easier to do and feel as though it’s more freeing ^ - ^
@@fairyboy444 sorry it was a bad joke about running on a lake. I hope you had a nice run!
LOVE the look of it, been wanting a small but powerful emulation machine made to play 2D games perfectly. Shame about the lack of R2/L2 making PS1 games really limited. Also shame about screen tearing, that's a deal breaker for me. Maybe software patch will fix the issue.
I won’t ever be buying this because of that and the price. It’s also a commercial failure for 3D games.
This looks like a very nice device and a great pocket size. I think I'd personally prefer something just a little bigger. Something like a 3" 480p screen would probably be ideal without starting to get too big.
I think I'd go with the landscape miyoo mini between the 3
Be sure guys to put minUS on this device
I am really digging the size of the device, but wished that they could somehow fit a slightly bigger screen and done stacked shoulder buttons for those L2/R2 buttons. It automatically ixnays PS1 titles without the extra buttons which is what I would have wanted it for. Anyhow, happy with my Miyoo Mini until then.
What games would you possibly need an L2/R2 for on a device this small?
I just got the Trimui model S the other day for something to jump in and out of during work breaks. I'm not sure why it being slightly thinner makes me more comfortable having it in my pants pocket compared to the Miyoo Mini. Maybe I'm just too overprotective of these cheap little handhelds lol
I love the Trimui S! Only thing that sucks is the short battery life. Which is understandable given how thin it is.
I've had the A66/Model S for a long time now. It's great. Extremely tiny and perfect for taking on the go. Even with my wallet in my pocket as well. My biggest complaint was the Very loud buttons, which this seems to have as well. I also don't like the look of this new model. Although it is much more powerful and the battery is twice the size.
Nah,being overprotective of a handheld is normal if you got attached to it. I have a Funkey S and i treat it like he's my baby
I fell in love with PocketGo early on and I still think the white finished plastic is the classiest thing on this market looking exactly like Arctic White GBA, just above some of the metal cases like RG280. So I hunted down up to 3 of them for under $99 total with case bundles and other nick nacks, a really good choice. Granted, as complete package Mini is the nicest looking pocketable and needs a bit of care as well.
3 miYoo originals aren't that much worse in performance, none of the competition really pushed to "actually good" levels like reliable PS1 and Arcade emulation. But on that flipside they already got down the passable perfomance back then, and with swapping SD cards the combined battery life is just crazy levels. To begin with PocketGo eats SO LITTLE of its battery by not having any bells and whistles like wifi. They have some old 50hz mobile phone screen that looks nice with colors and is really sturdy, not that having 3 I would need to worry about breaking one or run out of spare parts. You can tell they really amke an effort on the casing jsut being desigend smart, and avoid a lot of problems like with the PowKiddy plastic matchboxes.
I had a huge problem with Vita in that I just don't have the heart to bring it ANYWHERE. Pocketgos I take literally EVERYWHERE, the question is how many. If I have time to play an JRPG I might take the time to play a platformer at the same time as well, or run a game side by side in different languages.
is possible to use the multiplayer Wi-Fi funcion for co-op play with the RG351v?
As of August 2023, this is my favorite (chinese) portable console, because it is actually portable, fits in my pocket and only weighs 100g. And it plays cps3 games and has the best dpad on any chinese console I have ever tested, excep the trsimui model s has an equally good dpad. There is nothing else remotely comparable to this device on the market now or even in the past, unless you count the gameboy micro, which I also have. If I have the space/weight (which is rarely do in my pockets), I would take a ps vita slim or a new 3ds of course, but who has that kind of space/weight allowance in their pockets?
Cool for SNES and some PSX games that don't require the joystick, however you would be better playing GB games on a GB micro, and because of the previously mentioned lack of joystick makes it a suboptimal option for some of the best PSX games (MGS, RE trilogy, Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve 2, GT, FFVIII, FFIX, Dino Crisis 2, Spyro trilogy, Vagrant Story, Chrono Cross, Ape Escape, Crash 2, Crash 3, Wipeout 3...), not to mention that Tekken 3 doesn't work.
So you have to really love SNES games in this form factor and be okay with having this and a second device for playing joystick supported PSX games.
Agreed.
My Playgo is still my go to for these!
The PlayGO is great we NEED more handhelds like that. I'm hoping the KT R1 will be the same with PS2 emulation.
I was hoping to see a Powkiddy A66 and an Anbernic RG300X within that collection of handhelds you displayed.
Actually, the same program and interface of this Trumui Smart is on the Powkiddy A66.
I still maintain that the Powkiddy A66 is the best handheld I've owned. I don't know why it's not talked about more
@@ben66562 It is a very unique and impressive micro handheld for sure. Both the PowKiddy A66 and the Powkiddy X17 are underrated and not mentioned enough.
I have a Miyoo Mini... I use it when I need something ultra portable and my Steam Deck is just too big to take around everywhere. Even the little bigger screen makes it a better value. I was hoping this was MORE powerful than the Mini but, I guess not. Most PS1 games are fine on the mini..
I'll stick with the mini, thanks for the vid...
Do you have any predictions on when the Anbernic RG505 will be released?
I’m trying to decide between the rp3 and the Miyoo mini. I want to be able to take it to school so I can play whenever I have some time where I’m not doing anything. I like how small and cheap the Miyoo mini is compared to the rp3 but I like how the rp3 can play more consoles. Which do you think would be the best option for me?
Taki, would you consider doing a top 10 "pocketable" retro consoles? I think there are enough out now for your expertise.
Very capable little machine, and well thought thru!! - i was about to buy the powkiddy q36, but opted for the retroid pocket 2 (my current handheld) cuz of the screensize, greets Levi in Sweden
Awesome video, very informative. I'm still thinking thinking about getting the Miyoo Mini, but not sure. Also why can't I remember that intro sound XD
Gonna buy one,thank you Taki!
I think it doesn't get talked about too often because a lot of people just can't tell; unless they are watching slow motion video or the system has slowed down so much that a regular person can notice.
Is this the longest lasting battery for ps1 device
Looks cute, only things that put me off are it's a little pricey and the screen is rather small. I think you could still keep the same form factor and have a slightly bigger screen if the buttons were better placed.
How is the WiFi performance? With the display's ribbon cable above the WiFi chip I'd be worried about RF noise causing some minor interference.
So is it IPS or OLED @Taki Udon you said IPS but showed OLED on screen?
due for a follow-up video. i just got mine about a week ago and love it! on the latest release of Tomato OS
I'd like to see Wonder Swan's button layout in a spiritual successor device like these. Basically a second D-pad along side the main D-pad to play vertical orientation games properly. Also horizontal games that have their vertical moments. So far the 8bitdo Lite controller made that possible, but that's not a built in controller thing.
I loved my ambernic rv280, the tiny one but year later it just fried up.
Miyoo Mini >>>
This is almost perfect for what I want to do with it. Gift cute little sleek toy looking handhelds to the family PERFECT form factor to compliment the old school handhelds. Some companies overdo it
Makes me wanna buy one just because it's cute.
Even if it could run Cyberpunk at full speed, no L2 and R2 = no sale
Just wondering, does the usb c slot have support to plug in an external controller? That would be really useful for playing on ps1
How does this compare to the A66? Surprised it wasn't shown here.
Does this come with games or do you have to add them?
I like this one. I have a pocket go and I really like that it is small. The sound isn't so good on the pocket go so something that can play SNES and Genesis and it small is pretty cool to me.
I guess the dpad is good, although I wish more detail was given regarding fighting game suitability, (can you do dragon punches?). Since it is a pocketable device, would be good to know how it is in the pocket. And the 2 player wifi is a unique feature which would be very good to know about. As would the ability to connect an 8bitdo zero 2 to it via bluetooth and play 2 player games.
would love to see pico 8 with splore in this
I hooked up my PS-VITA to my Samsung Tab S7 11 " as a portable screen and even extend to my tv through the same HDMI dongle...🤯🤓
For me this portable missed the opportunity to go full on retro Gameboy design. If one of these portable came with only two A and B buttons, instead of four A, B, C, D, it could make those two buttons bigger like the original Gameboy ones and truly own that 8 bit and lower system feel. With only one L and R shoulder buttons it's not like PlayStation is going to practical anyway, so I think it's a bit of a missed opportunity to nail that low system Gameboy, Master System, and NES feel in the hand.
If possible can you try soul blade with the full review 🙂 great videos as always
How does one perform in comparison with Rasperry Pi Zero 2W with retropi when it comes to emulate PS1 games
Don't forget the Anbernic 300x 🙏🏽🤘🏾or the powkiddy Q90
Q90 has tearing like I showed at 04:07. I had RG300x off camera in this video. I didn't get a chance to include it.
@@TakiUdon so is the pocket Go 1 the same as the powkiddy Q90 ??
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's an exact hardware clone, meaning you can just take the SD card formatted for either and it will work for both Q90 and pocketgo/miyoo original. Powkiddy V90 might also be and that's really popular, in practice it will be compatible with same CFW.
That's not to say they are "the same company" or that they're different, they just all swim around the funky chinese copyright law. And yes, there IS one, it' s just not the same thing as Google copyright in the West. The "same people" making any of these devices, well, there's 1B of them, they're called The Chinese. So do not go assuming Miyoo Mini or Playgo are compatible.
Basically all these "companies" are just dropshipping companies like Soulja Boy. They don't ALL pay license like the Sony Phillips license that goes with EVERY DVD sale, they just DO the job. A "company name" like MiYoo exists only for branding, so that it seems to be the same device in the eyes of the buyer. It's basically like being "the company" that makes all the JPG files, it's nonsense. But if you DO make a JPG, obviously it has to open with MS Paint. This is a bit hard to imagine in the West where every IP not owned by google is behind lock and key, and a million ways to forbid ANYONE to create copies without explicit permission. And without usury.
Allwinner S3 SoC is 40nm process, from September 2017
So why is the Miyoo Mini not a good option for a device at this size? I haven't heard any overall negative reviews about it anywhere online. I also have it and think it's great. There are other good options as well like the Anbernic 280v. And honestly if I want performance better than PS1 I'd prefer a device with a bigger screen.
The vertical layout just doesn't work for me.
Miyoo Mini is less comfortable, and I've had two and they both broke. Also the dpad isnt quite as good.
I need to know if the wifi will allow me to hunt for retroachievements on this thing! It at least gives me hope that CFW will come along and give us that functionality
Were you ever able to find out if it can do retroachievements? That's literally what makes or breaks this device for me.
It’s so cute!
Is there a fast forward option ? Used it a lot on PC emulation for GBA and Pokemon
The specs in the video state the screen is OLED, but what is verbally said is IPS. Which is it?
oops
So which is it?
I find it funny you ask for rubber membrane over dome switches, when I just want a handheld with nice, clicky micro switches for all the controls.
My favorite handhelds have clicky buttons and they are usually a safe bet for companies like this because they are so simple, but these guys already know how to make good rubber buttons, so it's a shame they didn't on this.
Probably sourced the rubber membrane from other device leftovers, so there would be a limited number available.
2:09 great ASMR
Can you please take a pic of this next to Mario/zelda game n watch? I wanna know the size difference and thickness too.
Just bought this after watching yiur vid, Taki. Here, take your affiliate money. Thanks
Always annoyed when they give you a device powerful enough for quad shoulder buttons but they insist on GBA style dual shoulder buttons. I already have a lot of retro handhelds so why would I bother with this one when it's not only missing buttons, but it's more expensive than the superior Miyoo Mini?
It would be nice for these small devices to have stereo which would really help offset the lack of immersion with such a small screen. (One thing I really like about the Retroid Pocket 2+)
Rg300x
Hey taki ever think about doing a video on the Funkey S?
What advantage does this have over the retroid pocket 2 plus?
May I ask what's the pt for powerful CPU for games like psx when you can't even have enough buttons to play psx games? And the screen of miyoo mini v2 is the smallest screen I can bare before it went into just plain novelty item like a game gear mini. You are really not going to play that for more than 15min before putting it down and grab another bigger screen device. A no go for me. Thanks for the preview/review tho.
Looks beautiful
A good device to compare this would be rg300x, which has bigger screen with almost no tearing
Do the buttons align to the games?
I want this with my RG353p, GKD Mini Plus, and KT R1!!! 😍
How would you compare this to the rg300X?
does this have a sleep mode function to it
4:12 the PocketGo fixed the screen tearing with software and the versions that ship out have the patch already applied now
They made the tearing less, but it is still there. I showed the software "fix" in this video. You can see that it still has screen tearing. It's just less than what it was originally. Watch from 04:07 and compare to the device at 04:25. That is the difference between stock PocketGo firmware and the "fixed" firmware. It's better, but it still tears.
Can you even get PocketGo anymore? The way these work is the specific build is supplied with old mobile phone screens et cetera, so they're basically limited releases. Of course clones like Q90 will be around adn the support forums will never go away, nor will the aftermarket.
lol at you tho for going "basically unuseable" and display f-ing Pokemon. What graphic is going to break, the sprite sliding into the battle?
The whole point is to see manufacturers and the community work with what they've got. It's the same way all GBA games are already not worth playing, because the audio rendering is really terrible on software level and Nintendo made all the devs work with THAT. There's no point praisng pocketgo for graphics or make excuses for it, but I play portable kind of games like Minsh Cap, One Piece Mansion and Shadows Of Mystara FINE on it. Occasionally Megaman X3 and 4, but just being portable is a bigger hindrance than the screen tearing, to choosing those kinds of games in such a hurry I can't even go home and sit down with a nice controller.
Will you check win 4 as well?
One point I kinda disagree with is that, if other devices already offer rubber buttons, then that's even more reason for there to be an alternative like this for people who prefer it this way.
Taki, thoughts on logitech handheld?
Happy that a big company is in the market!
He'll most likely review it. However it's most likely going to suck.
😄 That is what I was thinking as well. People are comparing it to the switch and steamdeck, but I think the better comparison is the Odin. I think it should be decent for retro gaming since it has the play store. Few people have currently mentioned this. I hope you do a review. I really appreciate your content. Have a great day!
Having seen a gazillion reviews f devices with the same or more power not being able to fluidly play the systems that this can does tend to illustrate how software can often the real Achilles heel to satisfaction. This one has a screen that is too small for me but its actual performance is impressive for what is under the bonnet (hood).
Do you think this will be capable of running PSP games?
There is an emulator that can run on this, but even simple 2D games only run at 3 FPS.
What handeld is the one at 4:43 ?
Thanks for the content btw!
Powkiddy Q36: th-cam.com/video/V-BWdsjXTZw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks!
I still have my 10+ years old Gp2x Wiz with OLED screen. Gave me many many hours of fun thoughI can'tof course play anything beyond 16bit era but for those I have my PSP or PSVita. I never tried any of the current models so does anyone know how the WIZ holds up to them? The only thing I dislike on it is the mushy dpad and buttons.
The lack of L2/R2 caused me to immediately make this comment letting you know this is basically useless.
I managed to luck out on handhelds with a $100 second hand GPD XD.
Idk this little thing in the video doesn't look that appealing to me, for the most part you're restricted to GBA, SNES and anything that came before those.
Missing buttons for ps1 is a problem. The overall size is awfully small, to the point you're holding the entire thing with only the tips of your fingers. Though I guess that's the charm of the "super tiny" handhelds.
Dome buttons are something I personally like, DS and 3DS had some clicky buttons and I loved them very much, GPD by comparison uses incredibly soft rubber for the buttons.
Battery looks tiny, makes me worried about how many hours one can actually get out of it. Though it's not running the super bloated android so it should beat the 3DS' battery life, I'd like to see that tested. At least it being a generic cell means getting a replacement shouldn't be a challenge.
It having 8gb of internal and not opening that up to the user feels like they have really cheaped out on the nand and did this lock to prevent wear on it.
And the pricing is also not great, I checked the link while watching the video, $80 discount price with a $100 marked as the original price, the portability really is at a premium here.
Idk, this needed R2, L2 and maybe 2 more dedicated macro buttons, in my head, at the $100 price point, the emulation device has to be fully capable of ps1.
Thanks for the video. I love these smaller devices too, but still think there is room for a better pocket device...these are too thick. The old TrimUI for me was closest. Something so thin that could can put in your pocket without noticing. I get why people like the Miyoo Mini, but I hardly ever use it. Too small to want to play at home when I have an RP2+ that is way better and still a good small option. And if I want a device to throw in my pocket, the Miyoo is still thick enough to make me hesitate to always grab it. The older TrimUI/A66 was perfect in this regard, so small I didn't notice it. Unfortunately the quality issues and performance there was bad. Mine broke after a week and some buttons were sticky out of the box. Was really hoping this would be a true successor but they made it way bigger.
Taki sounds like he needs a hug in this video 😅
Great video as always otherwise!
With half resolution and more powerful processor, the performance should be very good.
I think there will be some interesting points with the wifi like the use of moonlight, remote roms, netplay, third apps or content dl
THIS LOOKS SOO CUTEE!!!
I wouldn't mind this for all my pokemon romhack games
I would definitely change the battery to the bigger capacity one...