Is the 2023 Nissan Z a better sports car to BUY than a Toyota GR Supra Manual?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- The new Z is here and Nissan is bringing some big changes for 2023. Under the hood is a 3.0L twin-turbo V6 that now pumps out 400HP & is mated to a 6-speed manual gearbox. On the outsie you will see a very clean design that ties in the past Z heritage. On the inside there is a 9in infotainment system, power seats, and new digital gauge cluster. Is the 2023 Nissan Z a better sports car than a Toyota GR Supra Manual?
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I like Joe's enthusiasm everytime he goes on throttle! Like a kid in a candy store. 😂.
You know it brother! Thanks for going on throttle with me!
@@RaitisRides good
that, the chirping tires, and the Twinkie jokes are so on brand for him lmao
Mans laughs of enjoyment, are enough for me to get this Z. 😂
I can see the sweat dripping off, the work he puts in for us is truly incredible
Thank you brother! That really means so much!
He is the best. So much Power!
@@RaitisRides😊
everyone: "break-in until 600 miles"
Raiti: "ON THROTTLE"
You are hilarious! This Z has over 6,000 miles!
@@RaitisRides does this Z have an owner?
It's a worn-out, abused press car.
@@bmlove81 It's a press car, casual. What's wrong with y'all? New to the world?
@@bmlove81 Yes, the owner is Nissan and they give it to all journalists/reviewers to abuse the heck out of it.
You can tell that Joe is a truly genuine dude and loves the heck out of what he does. Thanks for bringing the zonks Joe! Love all that you guys do and can’t wait for that upcoming Type R review!
First Nissan been excited about in a long time, and actually would love to take a test drive. Keep up the great work Nissan!
I know right!
ZF doesn't make the automatic transmission in the Nissan, they use a JATCO JR913E. ZF makes the 8sp in the GR Supra.
Love the comparison. The pros and cons of each. Lots of reviewers don't give their true opinions in their videos. Raiti's Rides always delivers.
Aa Really brought home how bad the situation is when the guy at the end expressed gratitude for simply having enough space to stand up inside his shared apartments.
Awesome 👍
I feel like a king 🤴 now in 600 sqf apartment, I could never live in Hong Kong under those conditions 😐. Poor people, the government should change their policies.
yes, agreed
These is,nt good in the sense that it ends up affecting civilians financially in different angles of life
We see complains here and there on social media ,from different people in different parts all around the world
This design looks sick imo (has a nice retro twist to it) and I have a feeling there are gonna be a ton of cool drift-style body kits for it, very soon
Nissan absolutely nailed this new gen Z!!! A piece of rt on wheels it is!!! I love it!!! Inside and especially outside, they got it right!!! Simple. Clean. Purposeful. Onto the expedited Massachusetts bound transporter please and thank you very much!!! Amazing review Joe Lori and Steven!!! We see you Joe, hooning this Z before wringing it out on the roads!!!
This is the one I've been waiting alllllllll year for Joe!!!!! Your drive review of the new Nissan Z!!!!
Joe, Been a fan of the Z since I was a kid. Great review, thanks for you and Lori getting out there in the heat and bringing us this review.
Thanks Steven keep rocking out and can't wait to see you in the new Z
Another great video as usual, Joe. You’re sweating something fierce too!
What a beauty, I'm definitely going for it as soon as it comes to Western Australia 🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️, thanks Joe for the honest and awesome review as usual you never disappoint
Love the car, thanks for full in-dept description of my favorite car. Not Thrill about the Z nomenclature but is still a beauty.
Keep up the great content 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼You guys are the best!!!
Love ❤️ the new Z, but…will not be affordable due to over zealous stealerships.
Thanks to Lori for all the hard work making it all look great!!!
Great review as always Joe! The Z seems to be great touring sportscar for the road as you said so probably more comfort than the Supra but I have not driven either one. I know you are mostly about performance but would be nice to give opinion about the audio system performance in the cars. Not important to some people, I get it. Even if not done on camera opinion would be great. Look forward to your reviews always!
Such a lovely review, you’re one of the few honest car reviewers showing the good and bad!
You chose right to get the manual! Not many cars left with a manual these days! My pick is the supra with the manual. When I saw your video about it the GR team does wonders and you really enjoyed it too
I am going Supra as well.
Its a BMW kid ... get it right
@@ACommenterOnTH-cam grow up "kid"
@@sryofcrwsntme9517 KMA M'Fer ...
@@ACommenterOnTH-cam corny asf
Joe you’re the best, I watch all of your reviews, man I want this sports car!
Another great video!
Nice review keep up the good Joe
Dude you crack me up. Great review.
Nice Nissan Z I really really think this truly the Apostle to the Sports Cars I love how it look. Very Very good design.
I really want one after watching this. Best Z review that I've seen. I much prefer the Z over the supra. Not a big fan of Toyota given that I've enjoyed Infiniti G35 for 10 years previously, replacing it with a 325hp, 3.7-liter engine v6 qx50. Looking forward to getting the base Z model next year for daily driving.
Watch the review of this car from @throttle house, let’s see what’ll you think of the car after, I hate that no other person is reviewing this car strictly
@@bibobrabernard1091 or check the one from savagegeese
This is basically a 370z. Which was basically a 350z. The rear suspension is all 370, as are the windows, roof and a about 20% of the rest of the car. The transmission came from a pickup truck. The suspension rocks and rolls, pitches and heaves. Look how much body movement there is when he goes from first to second in the parking lot. They took an out of date chassis, gave it a spit shine with a handful of parts from the parts bin, styled it to look like the older cars, like the Americans have been doing on the mustang, camaro and challenger for the past 15-20 years and are hoping you don't notice.
Absolutely wonderful review. You're the man Joe. Love this car!
I really appreciate your awesome support!
Glad we have these type of cars back, even tho they ain't as original or unique like the 90s, it's still good to have em
its like watching an mma match - put that work in! respect
As soon as I click this video, it's about that time to see ON THROTTLE ACTION IN THIS 2023 NISSAN Z!!
Joe you crazy😂😂👍
I’m on vacation in NC, but I had to tune in for this one. Love the new Z and Manual Supra. So it’s a coin toss for me. Great stuff Joe! Thanks for bringing it to us.
I choose the Z. Even tho the Supra is a bit faster, the Z is still hella fast.
I won’t be driving the car at a race track, so I don’t care about track performance, it looks better in my opinion, the ride seems to be more comfortable than Supra, I like the Z’s interior better than the Supra’s (although the Supra’s interior materials are more refined -BMW after all-). It’s reliable as well. And it’s a bit cheaper. If I want a fast car with a lot of tuning potential, I’d just buy an used GTR, and would make a monster out of it.
*That katana!* 😂
I LOVE the rear retro style lights and overall design of the car.
Interior looks so nice but that digital dashboard should've been retro as well.
For 50k+ i'd go with the less expensive MX-5 Miata.
Great review!
Exhaust sounds Bad, I won't even lie. That being said, I know for a fact, ones you install an after market exhaust, it will sound Amazing! because this car has an exactly the same engine as in Infiniti Q50S and Q60S and I heard how those cars sound with a proper exhaust and let me tell you, Woaw!
That need to be changed.
Mans laughs of enjoyment, are enough for me to get this Z. 😂💯💯
I love this new Z so far, Joe! It looks amazing.
Another great review!
Thanks man!
Joe you should get some Raiti's Rides sweatbands to help keep the hard work out of your eyes. Put your R on it. I'll buy some xD
Appreciate the hard work though, genuinely :)
That is a very good idea!
Joe probably got zonked by the cops pulling those stunts in the parking lot
Love this and I love the color line up, could see a lot of aftermarket potential with this but I’d have to say my favorite part is the rear, my least is the digital dash, would prefer gauges myself, wish I could get a fun weekend car, this would definitely be near the top if I went new.
I like the way you think!
It has a few gages in it
Love the styling of this Z so smooth and simple with that 240z shape …..
Very clean for sure!
I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the good work and I love the video lot real true and I love the car z look good 👍
Oh yes!! This is my dream Nissan sportscar.
Terrific job with your content as always Joe.
Not a dream cuz u can reach it.
the GTR's mine
I’m saving up for a GR Corolla right now man 😎
BMW Supra and 400Z can wait
You do the best car reviews ever !!!!!!!
Thank you so much Rodrigo!
I only have 7 inches but yes I definitely use all of them 😆! Great review, great lookin car Joe
Gorgeous hot car. Great review as always Joe. Thanks for sharing. 🙏🇺🇸
Love the review.
Thanks man!
good video Joe gorgeous car this is a classic and they bought it back
Oh man that yellow is awesome looking and the sporty style look is other win.
It really pops!
@@RaitisRides exactly and I freaking love that.
19:53 ON THROTTLE!!!!!!!!!!! Wowwwwww that sounds cool yeahhhhhhhhhh
What up Joe? NISSAN TIME!!!
“Noah actually used this on his arc “ 😂😂😂😂 best part of the video
Love the color!
Dude u doing a great job, but hope when u do SUV, pls show the space between mid row and 3th row that how much leg room they got.thx
You got it Danny!
Joe, I know you love the manual, but would you go auto or manual here?
Also, not much info or pictures on the base package. Any suggestions? Thank you buddy. Great as always!
The worlds oldest key fob had me rolling
Dealers are gonna kill this car with markups, with all the reviews in showing the Supra still is the better performance car and now it has a manual.....these dealers charging Porsche money for this Z are going to be stuck with cars but hey people aren't very bright it's people paying 50k for Integras lol 🤣🤣🤣
$50k for a civic motor 😂😂😂
@@thefastforte2854 lol 🤣 I'm so confused. Like how did they convince you to do that.
@@thefastforte2854 is it really a civic motor ? Lol
@@donchikis3575 in the Integra, yep. 1.5 only thing diff with car is interior from reviews I seen. Damn shame. I haven't seen one in my area, dnt think anyone fell for that.
@@donchikis3575 the Integra has always had a Civic motor and it's always been based on the Civic. Thats not a knock on it but it's just one of those cars it's hype was always more than what it actually was
I love this car see this Z will be much better than last generations. See Nissan is engineering their cars much better now including the Pathfinder so let's see how this new Z going be love the looks and color.
You are so right Ramon!
Eh. Probably not better than a Supra, but I'm glad it exist. We can't all drive Supras.
Maybe it's 60% recycled but it attracts attention to the brand and enthusiasts like it.
For me, not only it looks way better than the supra, I think it will also age way better. The design is sporty, but nothing crazy and it has that old school feel.
Smooth and simple design. Improvement on the overtly bulbous Supra. I would say it is the finest looking Z car to date. IMHO.
10:31 WOWWWWWW THAT SOUNDS COOL
Beautiful car. We need too stay building turbocharged, supercharged and naturally aspirated car's 👍.
Joe please give us your opinion. Which 2 door 2 seater would you get? Supra or Z? And why? Manual of course on either.
Hate the two-tone treatment. That should be an option, not standard on any trim.
That cupholder with the sliding top just by the way how it opens implemented the Z in its design 😏
Love what Nissan did with this Z. Looks pretty good and it's great for driving but at the same time it is still a practical car (nice donut, by the way).
Thanks brother man!
I choose the Z. Even tho the Supra is a bit faster, the Z is still hella fast.
I won’t be driving the car at a race track, so I don’t care about track performance, it looks better in my opinion, the ride seems to be more comfortable than Supra, I like the Z’s interior better than the Supra’s (although the Supra’s interior materials are more refined -BMW after all-). It’s reliable as well. And it’s a bit cheaper. If I want a fast car with a lot of tuning potential, I’d just buy an used GTR, and would make a monster out of it.
Both are sporty and reliable. So, it comes down to style aesthetics ( 25c word of the day LOL ) and brand loyalty.
I have no issues with the rectangle, in fact I really like it. I do, however, HATE the spilt grill, I think it’d do wonders to have it be a single piece painted METAL honeycomb. Maybe there’s an engineering reason for the spilt but I ain’t digging the aesthetics.
@Raiti's Rides - Jo, the gear box and clutch is it still manly? The one thing I love around the 350/370 is the heavy clutch and chunky gearbox, feels nice and heavy? secondly, WHICH WOULD YOU get, the Z or the Supra? if it was your own money?
As a 350Z Roadster owner... that front for me is the ultimate let down... no LED's on the front... it's just so square and tbh a little dull... it needed to be more rounded... side profile and rear solid... but the Supra looks better... and this really needed to be the 390Z or 400Z... I don't like how we've lost the numbering system which to me points that this could be the last Z car?
1). Terrible front end, really bland compared to the 350/370.
2). No Brembo? logo's Nissan?
3). Needed some cross drilled discs looks really cheap. Bridgestones come on, they're a poor quality tyre for the modern era... Michies needed!
4). Side profile is dull, no Z logo on the front sides? Come on... the front fender looks really bland and too big without a vent or logo?
5). Door handles nice, but they always were nice and flat like previous gens.
6). Nice to see proper calipers not the sliding calipers, thank god for that.
7). The rear for me is the highlight very old school, more old school loving the 300Z reference... lights lovely.
8). Nice exhausts from a looks perspective. Sound wise very very average which we seem to get with alot of turbo engines nowadays... disappointing especially on throttle, Turbos just seem to kill sound... needed better exhausts!
9). Wish they'd not gone turbo... was always ncie having NA power I know for emissions etc, but wish we still had NA power. Considering this has 2 turbos the power increase isn't THAT much really over the old 3.7litre? Turbo delivery for me, is sooooo different and one of the things with the Z cars was the NA mini muscle car engine, now it just feels like any other car... but that's just me.
10). Interior... 12:35 what the heck is going on with the overlapping stiching on the door stitches, that looks horrible. Nice integration on the screen though not some horid bolt on... although grain in a 2022/23 car... come on Nissan!!! No contrasting colour? Grey fest? Mmmm shame... nothing sporty with that interior, would've been nice to upgrade the interiors over the old Z cars, all just too dark... be nice to see yellow stitching or something? Nice pedal box all aluminium and thats good!
i love the rear design classic look but the front i was thinking they could've done better especially those fake vents, huge chunk block space that could've a great functional vent design
Usually with the big grill cars/suvs/trucks they have to block off some of the grill for the front brace. its for safety reasons so that if you hit another car or someone it wont cause too much damage. When i look at my 2023 z i can the fake part but they wouldnt be able to hide it due to the front brace
That front doesn’t have fake vents 😐 it’s literally made that big to cool off the engine since it’s turbocharged now
@@IPL_VIC i think they are talling about the covered vents which it does have in the front. it is just a few though but again its for the crash brace bar.
@@johnjuice933 he talks about it like the Supra fake vents…you are right though, since it’s built on the 370z chassis it has that crash bar. My infiniti has that same crash bar. I have a feeling the nismo will use some of the front bumper to introduce real vents for cooling purposes this time around.
Joe who makes the wrist watch you're wearing in this video? It's a cool one.
Thanks for saying that! It is a Citizen!
For this guy everything in the Z is excellent including the parts that he don’t like. Very objective
Now that's an amazing loaner!!!
Nissan Ceo: we wanted Z to be affordable at 39,995.
Dealers: I think we can mark this up to 85k!
Dude they were marking up regular ass civics and elantras…of course they’re gonna mark up anything new and sought after
did you have any problems with 2nd gear grinding while giving it the full beans?
Joe ~ I looked at that engine with my eyes, heeheehee. what no CVT ?!?! who wants a car without a CVT ?!?! plus it's a manual ? pretty strange for a Z ( lol ). that was me being sarcastic. I think it's a close race between the Z & the GR, I dig the interior - center stack is above average. ya look pretty good behind the steering wheel. sweet dash, gauge cluster = nice. the cargo space reminds me small bed truck, ya could cram a ton of stuff back there. twin turbos sounding racy, you get pretty speedy with this one. boy it's a tough choice. hmmm I like your theory about the GR being a track car & the Z is more like an everyday road car. I think I'd lean to the Z - Nissan needs money heeheehee & for a mid 50's price range I think that's pretty fair. wonderful report. tony
They look better now .than before .
Joe do you think a Nismo Z will be worth the extra money?
I drive an elantra N and trust me, any gloss black, get it wrapped in PPF immediately. Tell the dealer not to wash/detail when it gets delivered!
Good call man!
Rav4 xse owner, took amazing care of my gloss black and a year in its spiderwebbed to shit. I won't get anything with gloss black on it again, it looks great but you're right, without a coating it doesn't last.
The legendary Sports car is back from the dead am excited
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Thanks Joe. Appreciate the updated thoughts. I really can’t make up my mind in the Z. I won’t be beating it, more nostalgic for me, but lots of up and down reviews out there. Supra is BMW so no go for me. GR86 has the RTV PROBLEM. May end up with a Z by default. I’m 6’3. Will I fit? Lol
i sat in one at the NYAS, you have head room but your right leg may have issues with room im 6'5 btw
@@BigsGaming what’s the issue? Too narrow? Thank you for feedback.
@@hoopofficial4371 my knee was bumping the bottom left edge of the infotainment and i couldn't get the steering wheel to raise enough to getvmore room, i would sit in one if you can it might be more manageable for you
@@BigsGaming thanks. Definitely will if they ever show up. Lol.
If you’re knocking the supra because of bmw partnership, you’re missing out. 😂
Joe, I gotta ask, how does the driving experience of this Z compare to the GR Corolla?
Raiti i'm not sure you have ever driven the canyon lake/tortilla flats road in Arizona but please let me know if you do I would love to join ya. '22 WRX
Nice review! Interesting forgot about Infiniti Q60 red sport with same engine. Perhaps manual Z makes big difference.
Oh it does!
I got 15” and I use it everyday!
This car is nothing but nostalgia bait and I love that they are paying homage to some of the best features of previous models. Love it!
Joe you need to incorporate the 11:00 part of this review into all you future car reviews from now on! 😮😂
We will see what we can do?
Does it handle the same as the infiniti red sport?
That thing is a beauty!
Unfortunately the VR30 were integrated exhaust manifold, it means it can't run LTH (long tube headers) which sounds godly on previous VQ on 370Z
I would definitely go the Z over the Supra. A turbo and suspension upgrade would embarrass more expensive cars out there.
I rather get the Supra yea the z looks good but the z is all left over parts Infiniti motor 370z frame whatever there truck is infotainment
I rather get the Supra because the Supra is really a bmw and bmw is great
@@EazyTheRecon yeah until it's not great.
I choose the Z. Even tho the Supra is a bit faster, the Z is still hella fast.
I won’t be driving the car at a race track, so I don’t care about track performance, it looks better in my opinion, the ride seems to be more comfortable than Supra, I like the Z’s interior better than the Supra’s (although the Supra’s interior materials are more refined -BMW after all-). It’s reliable as well. And it’s a bit cheaper. If I want a fast car with a lot of tuning potential, I’d just buy an used GTR, and would make a monster out of it.
My answer is the Toyota Supra Manuel because is better
Smart man
@@Nick-hz2kl yes I am
I like this car in mt i have watched another review on yt that noted some delay in throttle response from stop.
Hey what's happening Joel it's awesome because you need to find a parking spot in front of someone house the Toyota GR has a longer hood but the Nissan z it's better because the Toyota it's part of BMW Nissan is Japanese no other part & thanks for sharing your videos with me 👋🙂♥️
Shady dealerships are going to mark it up.
ON THROTTLE HERE WE GO!