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I'm still convinced that the whole "River Song" - "Melody Pond" twist was the best thing ever happends to us.
despite being very cheesy
@edmundprice5276 Youre entitled to your own opinion. But i must ask, how do you interpret it as 'cheesy?
@@TheDiamondMelon it's soooo soap opera, it's like I'm waiting for the duff duffs
@@edmundprice5276 Eh, to each their own, fair enough man
Also, why didn't River just tell the two parents that had been desperately searching for their kidnapped daughter that it was her. So stupid.
River: "Well he's never noticed before"
Doctor: *stands in front of her completely offended* Maybe he'll notice now
😂😂
since they were on derilium for 24 years I’d say that the Doctor definitely had time to interrogate her on what she meant by that
The only way that bit could have been improved is for Peter to squint and say "WHAT?!" like David used to.
I don't know what's more funny about this the fact that this implies she done it before or the fact she doing in front of him
Beautiful Story Ending for Rory & Amy & the Doctor being sent back to little Amelia as it is Recounted the many lives they touched before their Romantic last Journey together❤a big Fan, Shawneequa Wyche
12’s like, “Wife, you’ve stolen my car more than once and never told me?!”
I haven’t seen anyone mention it here so I’ll just do it: when the Doctor gives River her sonic, he isn’t just waving it in her face to be cute. He’s scanning her into the sonic’s database so that his younger self can upload her to the Library. One last thing for his love.
I never thought of that!
I was thinking that was obvious from the day it was released.
if she can be uploaded, she could be downloaded into an android body. so waiting for that.
When I saw the screwdriver I immediately recognized it from The Library and started crying like a child, remembering what she was going to go through and how the Doctor just goes "I know myself. I wouldn't JUST give her a sonic screwdriver"
How did I miss this!
The doctor making sure a restaurant is built, just so he can take river there is incredible
he loves her SO much. ALWAYS. like even when she thinks he cant see her and he is like 'i can always see you. i can always hear you. it hurts' or whatever he says lol
I love it when he says, Whenever you need it most, there is a Song (River Song). The singing towers are an ode to River Song.
(3:48)
"Its your daughter's name, in the language of the forest-
except...they don't have a word for pond, because the only water comes from the _river_ "
Jesus christ this line gives me goosebumps every damn time.
That line was first spoken by the Tardis to Rory as a whisper before her body died.
"The Doctor is not stupid enough and certainly not in love enough to be standing here with me!"
*The Doctor, standing there with her*
"Hello, sweetie"
*UGH MY HEART I LOVE THEIR RELATIONSHIP SO MUCH 💙
Not just for Christmas.
Same. I love husbands of river song. Their story is so cute
"might take th age down a little just gradually to freak people out" that is the most in character explanation as to why she gets younger and younger
I love the 12th doctor hamming it up when he gets to pretend he's seeing the tardis interior for the first time.
"Finally. Its my go"
Me too hahaha
He just wanted it to be done right
I also love how it almost looks like he's speaking to the audience after! "Sorry. I've always wanted to see that done properly ;)" 😂😂 And then his face at the secret drink compartment lolll
@@flamingarbre1284 It's the best TARDIS.
“I hate you.”
“No you don’t.”
Starts out as flirting, then turns into their version of ‘I love you’
I always say the "No you don't" at the same time they say it, every rewatch after the first time, every time it gets me, I do it without even noticing xDDD
The fact that her time line was properly closed, and interestingly told throughout multiple showrunners, Davies and Moffat, is a wonderful feat, and a testament to how great this show has been, throughout the years. I had a years long argument with friends about whether or not her sonic screwdriver in her first episode with the 10th Doctor was one of the Doctors or her very own screwdriver. I was on the side of it being given to her as a gift by the Doctor, so you can imagine the smug face I gave my friend once everything played out the way it did. I love River. Favorite companion ever.
basically just one writer but i get what you mean
wdym by davies
Didn’t she say in the library episode that she was given the screwdriver by the Doctor, her Doctor? It also was rigged with her mind, or essence or whatever so she could live on inside the computer of the library. She had no way of knowing what was going to happen in there as long as they played by the rules they set.
But at the same time they gave the ability for her to come back if she was ever needed by pulling her from that computer system. It was a small bridge they built incase they wanted to bring her back while also finishing her story.
She wasn’t a companion. She was his wife.
@@tmmmc9805 , I would love to know who the eye-patch lady was who kidnapped Emilia to steal River/Melody at birth.
1:54 When River tells the Doctor who she is and he gets all giddy because he realizes his closest companions are related, meaning his wife is a Pond... One of my favorite moments
That little giggle Matt gives is one of my favorite moments in all of Who.
That means we... yes
literally m yfavorite!!!! he gets so excited!!!!
I think he was super excited about being a Pond himself. With the way he calls Rory and Brian a Pond, I am sure with their marriage, he would consider himself one as well.
The Doctor knew that he couldn't change River's future, because he'd actually witnessed it. It's heartwrenching.
And also that was their meeting, when she died, and when he told her he could change it she told him "don't you dare! Not those times, not one line!" The fact that he tells her something very similar later always gives me a thrill.
Well they both knew the consequences.
That reveal of Melody Pond being River Song was brilliant writing. They must have written Amy Pond into the series just so they could connect River song and Amy together, which is brilliant writing.
That must have been a 10 dimensional thinking. What i have always found astonishing in case of reboot, is how it all at one point... at n! points falls together and makes sense.
They definitely thought of it after the fact
The greatest part of that bit was that I got it at the exact moment that Steven Moffat wanted me to get it. Maybe his best bit of writing since Blink.
@@propogandalf oh yeah they hinted the doctor and River being married in River's debut but Amy and Rory were created purely to tie it all together but it was definitely decided from the start of the 11th run, also some of the stuff they did in the series with river were already entries in the diary used in the Library so there was some thought to River's character from creation and the connection to the doctor but definitely the fine details were decided at the start of Smith's run
Its also cheesy and hella soap opera corny
I love the husbands of river song because the entire episode is The Doctor trying his absolute HARDEST to point out that he is The Doctor aside from outright saying it and River fails to get the hint EVERY. SINGLE. TIME
"You've decided that the Universe is better off without you, but the Universe doesn't agree."
Sometimes, when having a bad day, we all need to remember this.
The “He’s never noticed before.” sent me because she just ratted herself out 😂 He’s certainly going to notice now 😂
"when you least expect it, but need it the most... there is a Song" I think this is one of the best lines in the series with all the context.
Mother ****er... I hadn't made that connection... wow. Thank you thank you thank you
Also before that him saying “When the wind stands fair” echoes River’s speech at the end of Forrest of the Dead
My favorite part of The Husbands of River Song (after River's incredible monologue where she relates her love of The Doctor to loving a sunset) has to be River just constantly missing the blatant hints The Doctor keeps dropping for her.
River: You're very quick
Twelve: Yes, for a _Doctor._
River: Yes
Twelve: Seriously?
What was that hinting at?
Yes! it's brilliant.
@@LB0206 He is The Doctor. With a hair cut and a new suit.
The whole time he's telling her who he is... She's like I steal it and he never notices and he's just like oh really.
River Song Iconic Moments: every single one of them because River Song *is* iconic. She deserves to comeback, and she deserves a spin off all for herself onscreen.
Not to mention that Alex Kingston is the single most dedicated actress to her character I have ever seen. She wrote a whole damn book! An AMAZING book btw!
The spinoff would have to be the book she wrote that was a audiobook
@@omegagamer4124 agreed! That book is so good! I've listened to the audio alongside with the book... ugh, so good. Alex Kingston is amazing, I love her 😫💕
@La Catrina Except she can't because her timeline ended after the hisbands of river song as after that she met 10 in the libarary
Not letting characters die and stories end is *Exactly* how you ruin them eventually, Marvel for example, doing shit quality content after the war movies
Rewatch River's episodes if u like, it's why I'm here watching this video. But bringing her back with zero reason beyond fanservice would be garbage
@@uneterostardust8233 She literally died on her first episode and we had to cope with that while we learned more and more about her. She's one of the few characters who's not a timelord (techinacally, she's human) that can still have more added to their story even after they've died. Yes, in a way her story has come to a full circle in THORS, but we have all of her in betweens that we don't know much about. We have the books, the Big Finish audios, but we still don't have so many things... imagine a show about her solo adventures, about her archeological expeditions, her time in university, the time she lived in 30s/40s New York, her dealing with the Silence all those years, her life and existence as her own person and not necessarily connected and related to the Doctor.
River Song is a character with so much potential. She's skillful, brave, courageous, smart, charismatic, and not to mention that she has a fairly interesting moral compass.
I'm not saying to resuscitate her. I honestly like her ending, it's a good one. The Doctor gave her an afterlife that was close as possible as he could get to a timelord's one. And, according to Moffat himself, an afterlife *with* the Doctor, because apparently Doctor Moon is one of the Doctor's future faces that they've uploaded to CAL so they could also spend their afterlife with their wife.
All I'm saying is that there's potential to explore and create so much within the story we already have.
12:40 that’s the moment he knew he screwed up. She honestly, truly believed he didn’t love her - to the point where she made it her truth. A woman who loved him so beyond comprehension and never felt it in return. And I think that’s also the moment he decided to fix that; to take her to Darillium and make the next 24 years absolute proof to her that he loved her too
And he had the restaurant built for their date
i think 24:26 fits better
I guess u added the wrong timingss
Bow chicka wow wow. I'm suprised in those 24 years they didn't have a child.
@@Leo-im6vv Who says they didn't? We just haven't heard about one yet. Have a child, raise it together for 22 ish years, then the Doctor takes it somewhere safe.
every time I hear those "24 years" I can not not cry, enjoy River and see you in the library
I love what Husbands of River Song implies. Before River dies in the library she exclaims to Ten, "The last time I saw you, the real you, the future you I mean. You turned up on my doorstep, with a new haircut and a suit." Even with all that time she spent with Eleven, she was able to have such an emotional and satisfying goodbye with Twelve that when she imagines her doctor, its Twelve. When Eleven regenerates into Twelve, he wanted Clara to 'see him'. Guess RIver saw him too. What a night that must've been!
Well, she _did_ spend 24 years with him.
I think that is something I don't particularly like.
Don't get me wrong, that entire setup at the end with Twelve was amazing, but I always imagined, when she talked about "her Doctor", she would mean Eleven, not Twelve.
@@ottokarl5427 she also mentions “My Doctor” making whole armies turn around at the mention of his name in the series 4 episode and then to Eleven at the end of A Good Man Goes to War she makes it clear she is referring to him making armies run away. In my head, when she is talking about her Doctor, she is referring to both Eleven and Twelve - they were both her Doctor. That’s how I square it in my head anyway!
Me too, but that's why I dislike that boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic with 11 and Clara, all the time I was like, dude you're married! Imagine if they did cross paths while River was still alive, like wtf
@@ginjamutha exactly, like is everyone forgetting that theyre the same person
The Husbands of River Song is the perfect episode. It has laughs, tears, creepy aliens, killer robots, even body horror, and one of the greatest love confessions of all time. It can make you laugh, cry and break your heart, and then do it all again. River being honest about how she feels about the Doctor is my favorite monologue, ahead of Capaldi's regeneration speech and Bill Nighy's description of Van Gogh. Vincent and the Doctor was my favorite episode that always made me cry at the end until The Husbands of River Song came along.
Don't forget her speech before she died in the library. Alex kingston said she had no idea what those words meant, but oh boy was it so emotional. Watching that scene again after HoRS was so perfect. Even tennant teared up during that scene.
What I love about River's speech to the Doctor at Demon's Run is that she is rightfully calling him out on how he's evolving for the worst. She has every right to hate him for how his actions led others to steal her, ruin her childhood, and screw her up as an adult, yet she chooses to show compassion and give hope instead of using the moment to make him feel even worse. She's holding him accountable and reassuring him that all will be ok at the same time. She helps him understand without letting blame linger. It almost mirrors how the Doctor told her that she is always and completely forgiven in the moment she was forced to kill him.
Smith's tenure as Doctor just wouldn't have been the same without her 😊
Alex Kingston was born to play river song - I was in love with her from the first episode she's amazing
3:10 This was probably the greatest reveal of the present iteration of the show. Absolutely fantastic story arc.
Glad to see someone like Series 6
My god, the chemistry between Capaldi and Kingston is electric. It oozes out of every scene they were in together... and that 'Hello Sweetie' and end clip from Husbands. Christ. Top notch actors with top notch writing. I miss this Doctor Who. Maybe RTD will rescue it...
Capaldi and Kingston have such great chemistry it is a real shame they only ever got one special together. Like the subtle looks on Capaldi's face when she's talking about how he doesn't love her. The entire scene with the Singing Towers. Just great stuff.
Honestly, Jodie's run isn't as bad as I've heard a lot of people talk about when it comes to acting and overall production quality, but you can really tell that most of the experienced writers took a leave of absence. I haven't felt heartache or come close to crying like Capaldi effortlessly made me feel.
I have significant complaints about Moffat as a showrunner, but man, no other writer of Doc Who can weaponize time like he can. I'm a ways into Jodie's run and I haven't seen any timey wimey of note.
Every scene with this woman is iconic
I was about to comment the same thing x
Meh😒
@@DragonHeart613 You probably think the past few series were the best out of all doctors
@@KimiButNoDrink David Tenant's 10th Doctor & Matt Smith's 11th Doctor to me are the greatest incarnations of Doctor Who ever.
@@KimiButNoDrink If they do, it’s none of your business. He or she is allowed to like different things than you.
i love the little giggles the doctor has around 2:10 when he figures out rivers identity
The fact this does NOT include that moment in EP13 of S7 when the Doctor catches Rivers slap and says "I can ALWAYS see you" makes this a meaningless compilation. That is the most powerful moment in all of their relationship.
River is and always will be a queen
12: Hello Sweetie
River: You are SO doing those roots
12: What, the roots of the sunset?
Best. dialogue. ever.
Its crazy how good of a Doctor Peter was. When I was watching it I didn't give him enough credit cuz I really miss it!
I went back and rewatched his episodes recently and his performance is just of the highest quality.
@@airplane4242 Right!!
I'm with you on that. As a huge fan of Matt's Doctor, I hated Capaldi with a passion at first. It's only later on that I came to appreciate him and his brilliant rendition.
@@kevinth66 I was the exact same way! I think it took getting a little older to realize it. That's how it always goes lol I still miss ten though with a passion.
@@kevinth66 same he is now firmly my favourite
“I’m an archaeologist from the future. I DUG YOU UP. See you in 400 years!”
One of the best moments 😂
It is ridiculous how beautifully this character was written. Easily the best thing to come out of Moffet's tenure
“Im an archeologist from the future, I dug you up” is such a badass line
The doctor lived his romantic relationship with her backwards and she still loved him.
I want River Song to have her romantic happy ever after with the doctor.
Makes me sad he had to let her go in the end.
River has had some of the most severe sass coming from this series, let alone an archeologist.
"I'm an archeologist from the future, _I dug you up!_ *SEE YOU IN 400 YEARS!"*
I’d go so far as to say that that’s one of the most bone-chilling departing lines **anyone** has ever delivered to a character onscreen. Absolutely devastating.
Hush! Mummy and daddy are busy. 🤣
"How could you possibly know that?!"
"I'm an archaeologist from the future. *I dug you up.*"
(Honestly one of the most terrifying lines if you really think about it.)
If she hadn’t been turned into a weapon against him, and she consequently didn’t have to exhaust all her regenerations into reviving him, they could’ve been together for a long time!
Sadly it was being turned into a weapon that gave her regeneration. She may have had a longer life due to Vortex exposure at conception but the experiments by the Silence it what pushed her into becoming more timelord. At least that's what I understood.
If not for the experiences along the way we never reach the final destination. We are never who we are we never feel or think as we do. If not for those experiences that love is never what it becomes.
It's two beings willing to give up all the time in the world for each other.
Her speech at 24:48 shows just how much of a skilled actress Alex Kingston is. Powerful stuff.
River Song is and always will be my favourite companion.
I don’t consider her a companion
“When the wind stands fair and night is perfect, when you least expect it, but always when you need it the most…there is a Song.” River Song. Always there when the Doctor needed her the most.
River's moments on the show have resulted in viewer's emotions ranging from sad & emotional to ecstatic & hilarious
When I first realised that River Song is who she is, it was one of the greatest ever moments in Dr Who history. And I am just about old enough to remember William Hartnell. My Doctors were Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker, but the revamped series was fantastic, still good for kids, but sophisticated enough for their grandparents to enjoy!
{:o:O:}
Even though we saw her beginning, and her ending, they set it up for her to have many adventures in between. The audiobooks offer some glimpses, but I'd love to see her with other Doctors.
Me Too and I just wished that River Song would have met the 13th Doctor (Jodie Whittaker)! It would be epic and exciting to our fans to enjoy! WF-😎🤩😍😉✌️👌
The chemistry between 12 and River was awesome.
I am in love with Professor River Song, have been since I first saw her in that library. I guess I always will... the daughter of the Girl Who Waited... she is the One Who Lives Backward. Such a beauty.
1:30 to 4:30 is seriously the SINGLE most exciting, joyful, tear-jerking, massively EPIC set of scenes from the entire Who story arc.
That seriously my favorite Character aging justification.
She intentionally made herself younger over time to confuse people.
That's why she looks older even though she should be younger every time we see her.
and why there is a big difference after 24 years of them together
"I'm your daughter" the most brilliant WTF moment ever in all Dr Who!
And still drops jaws one year later.
nope the look on amys face when she realises she is the doctors mother in law
River may just be the best doctor who character after the doctor himself
My favourite bit of dialogue ever always will be "I'll suffer, if I have to kill you" "More than every living thing in the universe?" "...Yes". No romance could ever come close to what The Doctor and River Song have.
Rory, and Amy might have some challenge to this.
Also, it took me way too long to realize the restaurant they go to is essentially the Restaurant At the End of the Universe
"Hello Sweetie" "Get Out!" And that how it started when The Doctor met his future wife in Professor River Song.
20:14 lmaOOO Peter's face just before he says "maybe he'll notice now."
River NEEDS to come back i miss her :'}
River and captin jack need a on screen meeting
Nah the only time she can come back is if Moffat writes the episode.
She doesn’t though
Not sure how they'll do it, since they've written her timeline beginning to end with 10 through 12, so it wouldn't make sense that she'd meet any incarnation after them
@@jayharm9490 Jack won't come back again because of his past behavior on set and the drama around him and River has been in audio books
Of all the moments that really got me right in the feels, this one, the end of the Donna saga and the fate of Bill are the three that get me the most.
The end of the Donna saga kills me every time - huge, weeping tears.
@@VideoArchiveGuy especially after silence in the library. She had the perfect man but she missed him by a few seconds.
The false end or the true end?
@@catprog at the time I wrote the comment, the "false" ending was the only ending. In fact, as much as I've enjoyed the 60th anniversary specials, I think that the original ending packed a lot more emotional punch than the reboot.
If we had a nickle for every time the Doctor traveled with the mother of his love interest, we'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's still weird that it happened twice.
Alex Kingston was born to play River Song.
It still gets me how these scenes, years later and taken out of context, are still so good and get me quite emotional. Such good storytelling.
I've always thought river refuses to travel with the doctor after. Manhattan because she can't bare to be surrounding reminders of her parents so soon after losing them.
(Although the Ruby's Curse does confirm River regularly visits her parents in 1930s/1940s New York, so I'm assuming she starts travelling on the TARDIS again after realising she can still see them)
One of the most beautiful and tragic romances since Shakespeare
"He's never noticed before." God, that episode is so amazing.
Capaldi in the song speech is fantastic rewatching his series again and just fully focusing on him bring me a new outlook on what I already consider the best era of DW. I already had him as my favourite Doctor and best actor but it’s even more apparent after rewatching even though I love Smith Tennant and Chris Capaldi is just something else truly the most complete Doctor ever
12 and 11 loved River with their whole hearts
Thank you for this! My eyes are now red and swollen and my nose won't stop running.
god i would kill to see the tardis's reaction to doctor pretending to be shocked about the tardis being bigger on the outside
Her scenes were amazing
Matt Smith is my favorite Dr. because I feel the writing & story lines were unmatched by any other new Dr. The "crack" in Pond's wall from his 1st episode spans his entire tenure and concluded on his last episode when Clara tells the "crack" they been asking the wrong question. Matt Smiths Dr. starts the impossible girl which was brilliant! We learn about River Song (I know she was introduced under David) and her role in the Dr.'s life.
Just great story telling & he keeps it light and fun.
In a way she's not dead a part of her is still in the library if there were a way they could try to find a way to bring her back
River is magnificent. What a character arc. Genius.
River : Well he’ s never noticed before.
12th doctor : ( *offended that badly* ) maybe he’ll notice *now*
later..
12th doctor : *oH wOw ThIs T- BoX iS sO sPaCiOuS1!!1!1!1!1!1!!1*
I mean, if you financed the restaurant, surely you could get a table any time you wanted
The Doctor was able to save River with the sonic screwdriver that a future him gave her. Notice that the first thing that The Doctor does when he gives her the screwdriver is to SCAN her and save her. They connected that so perfectly and it's such a subtle part in the show.
The season 6 era was so brilliant. The storyline of it was so perfect not only in establishing a deeper connection and draw to the companions but also showing where the doctor stands and what he'd be willing to do given the circumstances.
Everyone is so crazy about russel t Davis coming back .I wish Moffat could write again for doctor who some of the best episodes was written by Moffat it’s amazing to look at Moffat’s episodes and realize I missed that the first time .He definitely could tell a story
The Grand Moff coming back to write Series 14
River Song has to be one of the best written character of all time…and space. 😊
Alex como River Song é Perfeita🥰❤
❤❤ the last meeting makes me weep. The chemistry between them is absolutely perfect.
It would be nice we’re they to bring her back for Tennants return. Might explain why she was confused where they were in the timeline when he first met her.
Greatest of all "Hello, Sweetie" moments :D
what if...you brought River back and gave her even MORE iconic scenes 👀
i am honestly wondering if this will happen in the new era :D
I genuinely hope not. Not that they couldn't make some iconic moments but rather that it would take away from this ending.
I love River so much you cannot imagine !!
It was Amy's I CONSENT & GLADLY GIVE that did it for me! 😂
when mels changed into river they all sat back onto hitlers desk i was thinking wow this day just got wierdiest fast
I've watched that episode a dozen times and it never fails to make me cry ugly.
What a way to break my heart all over again 😭💖 I miss them all
River Song, I absolutely adore her! Alex Kingston did an absolutely wonderful job portraying her!
I always get teary at that last part. And, I so badly want her to come back....either to be rescued or rescue herself.
Wouldn't it be something if #10/14 rescues her and brings her back!?! Wishful thinking most likely, but it would be ...fantastic!
River and the Doctor. The time the Doctor became the companion.
a river is one that flows like time singing its song till the end and its time is no more.
6:05 "I might take the age down a little, just gradually, to freak people out" oh my gosh that's hilarious
we love river. we need more episodes with her!!
Please no.
@@DragonHeart613 what lol
@@DragonHeart613 Please yes.
im not crying you're crying....oh right, you're me from when i first saw this....so me being the me remembering having first saw this, i am full of not just the emotianl memory but the new emotions evoked upon the secondary viewing....so.....we're not crying you're crying 😢
The Doctor loved River. But River was right - they are a sunset. They are a star. They are time itself. It's why the Master/Missy and the Doctor are still "friends".
The Doctor loved River. But could never be River's husband. She accepted this. She still loved them for this. She was always strong, for them.
But it has to be said - during everything - the Doctor knew that it would end the way it did, that they would survive and she would "die". In the end, the Doctor knew that no matter how much they loved River, they watched her die and will have to go on without her - just like everyone else. Sad and beautiful.
So in light of the whole "timeless" situation and the fact that River can use the Tardis for 24 years without the Doctor even knowing it. River can literally pop back in at any time and nothing has to be explained. It would be cool to have the Timeless plotline be put to good use and grant her more regenerations, etc. Whatever way possible, having Kingsten reappear as River would be awesome.
21:43 How did she not know that this was the Doctor after his overreaction? 😂
I am very glad that her canonically last goodbye is with 11 ngl.
This was the best story line ever written amazing love river
the interaction between river and the dockter was fantastick and real love from both sides what a great actors these two