Dave's voice on Kicks sounds more like Your Filthy Little Mouth era to me. I dig it. No individual has exposed me to more older music I like than Dave.
Thanks for posting this!!! Gentlemen of Leisure sounds as though it was written for Circa 1975 T.V. cop show based in Detroit. 'Action in the Hood' airs Tuesdays @ 8:00 p.m. Pacific, 7:00 p.m. Central on CBS.
Rough n Raw VH ! Wonderful tribute ! May you soar in heaven with rocking angels ! God bless your kind soul Eddie ! Release the archives ya'll and let us binge with fine early metal EVH axe ation !
+Harold Keil Mark played a bit with the legends band that played at the book signing party in Pasadena for Gregg Renoff's book last fall......he was as awesome as ever............and married to a lovely lady, and has a successful business and was really nice to those of us who knew him long ago, and wondered how he is!
Wow......Eddie before the brown sound and before his own individual style had blossomed. You can hear that he was a hot shot, but he hadn't become Edward VH yet.
I met him in his hotel room after a show, my wife was in the radio station, thats how we got in. He was the biggest dick you could ever meet. We stole his beer and left.
Song 1 not much to go off. Kind of like a pop psychedelic stomper. But song 2 you can definitely hear how early influences like Page and Iommi informed EVHs guitar playing from relative inception. In fact in that order as the early solo work on the song reminds me of Page’s fevered, edge of chaos shredding; while the solo work at the end of the song reminds me more of Tony Iommi’s gothic-tinged, Clapton-inspired solo handiwork. Song 3 sounds a lot like an early version of Mean Streets with some Hot For Teacher in there too. Solo pure Eddie. Awesome stuff here. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼👍🏼
diamond Dave already had his style down. I'm not the biggest Roth era VH fan BUT from this it's clear that Eddie is finding his style and Dave in some ways could be considered the beacon. In the verses in these songs you can see the early VH magic begin to take shape
Damn this fits right into that era as well theh should release all their shit now it would be a helluva way to pay him respect I was 1 going on 2 wow didn't know how much these mofos would impact my life
I wish Van Halen would get the lawyers to look at all this, and get this on to a big album.....cleaned up the best possible with new technology..........and sell it with Gregg's book. It would be great! Maybe they would give the money to build veteran housing......heh, heh, as that is my favorite charity...........and we are doing fundraising to build three tiered housing for blind, and brain injured and PTSD veterans and their families.
Although I could as someone who can do audio engineering if I had to do my own I definitely could improve the quality (LMF, HMF,) compression..More bass, etc...The original quality is so bad, it wouldnt be good enough to release it as an album. That being said it was cool to hear. I thought it be better but I can hear eddie begiinning to come into his own and Roth too, Could barely hear any bass. Still very cool as an old VH fan to hear.
@@CelestialWoodway I dream of a way to listen to Listen to this *by_way of filtering it by placing my iPhone into a foam lined/ padded plastic lunchbox with mistermicrophone to filter it and hear it how this would sounded monaural On my AM radio like I would have heard this in the 1970s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When FM rock radio, was still simulcast on AM And I had a #battery_card to get a “free battery” every month from RadioShack
I'm so glad VH reached global phenomenon in the 80s and had credit to Beat It on the Thriller album because to sound like this in 1973 and get bad lib from other bands was just wrong. The 80s was it.
@CestpasMonvrainom Can anyone else hear a organ-type keyboard on KICKS? And what sounds like a piano, especially at the end. I'll bet that's Norman James "Jim" Pewsey. Might be him on background vocals as well. What do you all think? Jim died in a vehicle accident in July of 2013. I connected with his daughter Ivory on Facebook. She said her late father told her lots of stories about the Van Halen brothers. 😎
Gene Simmon's would say that he wrote all the songs, played all the instruments, did everyone's hair, and provided the lunch. That's why they can't officially release this material.
Running with the devil first song I ever heard by Van Halen early 1978 fresh and very very cool off my radios 2 inch speaker lol I've advanced since jr high lol
DLR's voice was a mixture of talent, alcohol, drugs, and ego. The talent is what made it sound good, the rest is what makes it sound like in most other situations.
+blasty5150 19, I think he is the same age as Dave. Surprised me when I read Gregg Renoff's book, I thought he was a few years younger when I met him, but I think the book says they both were 1955 birth dates.
+Harold Keil The first time I saw Ed, my sisters and I had gone with Dave to see a band he was interested in becoming their singer..........the next time I met Ed, I had gone to Dr. Roth's house and as I came in I thought Dr. Roth must be home playing a Mozart piano album on the stereo. As I stepped into the room with the piano, I saw it was a young man playing the piano for real............Van Halen practiced in my garage for some years..........but truthfully I did not see them much, I worked two jobs and went to law school......and was raising my two sons. My younger son had said, I want a home, so I had found a house on a foreclosure sale that had been wrecked by the tenants, and bought it for taking over the loan.........I needed someone to help me restore it, they needed a place to practice. Six days a week, four hours a day they practiced, They had made arrangements with the neighbors to be least annoying, and soundproofed the garage.................most of the time when I was home, one or another of the band got any friends who dropped by, and me, to go out and hang up fliers for their next gigs...............Ed was mostly with a guitar and playing, plugged in or not, and when I saw the band at clubs or concerts, or big yard parties I only stayed a few minutes after putting my sons to bed, and on my way to work.............
To me, and I think I'm being funny, It always in the photo stills in this time period, looks like David is saying,.. and you really think I'm not Janis Joplin?. And also, why did VH not do a cover of one of her songs. I think Eddie could do a heck of lot better guitar riffing in her songs, than the guys she had.
Kicks sounds typically late 1960s cringe pop music. *This is Eddie at 18.* Glitter reveals how Eddie learned how to play in one way and never grew thereafter. Interestingly, the song sounds like a mash-up of Jim McCarty of Cactus, Pete Townshend of The Who, an actual terrible guitarist, with a bit of Hendrix tossed in the end. Meanwhile, here is a 19 year old's work: th-cam.com/video/Kb_RJiFzLJ4/w-d-xo.html& and when he was 15: th-cam.com/video/GnM4gRcId70/w-d-xo.html
You need to hear the early days of PanterA pre Phil Anselmo. There's TH-cam footage of Dimebag absolutely tearing it up at around 17 that's has to be heard.
There are tons more teenagers out there playing better than Eddie ever did younger. He was a pioneer, sure but now that kids have all the amazing guitarists since to learn from they've picked up a lot of that.
Second song needed slowed down with grittier guitar and grindier bass But then it didn't sound right when it slowed down until it turned soloish and a little faster Amazing how clear and crisp their records were when van Halen debuted compared to this handheld transistor radio sound
Everything great happens after 10 pm , The police and your parents do not want you to discover this out. You mean wealthy people enjoy this thing called night life ? You mean we are so poor that we have to settle for TV and reading. Find some kicks kids.
It's crazy how so many celebs had never heard of Van Halen till the debut album, one would think the buzz around them was huge those years prior.
Such a great band......they have always had magic! They can play anything, and it sounds.....AMAZING!
Who, Mammoth?
Yea except they haven't had a new record of quality out in 20 yrs
Heard these both. Thanks for the uploads. A lot of this rare stuff is going away online.
Rip Mark Stone ...
Rip Eddie...
Crazy coincidence that both Mark and Ed would die of cancer within a couple weeks of each other.
I saw Mark Stone play bass for a VH Tribute band ( I think it was Atomic Punk) a few years ago. To me he is like Pete Best of the Beatles...
Dave's voice on Kicks sounds more like Your Filthy Little Mouth era to me. I dig it. No individual has exposed me to more older music I like than Dave.
'Kicks' was probably recorded in the 90's.
@@CestpasMonvrainom And I was thinking wow, Van Halen sounded so sophisticated in the early 70s.
He sounds like he did on Skyscraper
Dlr band cd was his best
@@Iknowthelaw13that doesn't sound like Stevie Vai to me
Thanks for posting this!!! Gentlemen of Leisure sounds as though it was written for Circa 1975 T.V. cop show based in Detroit. 'Action in the Hood' airs Tuesdays @ 8:00 p.m. Pacific, 7:00 p.m. Central on CBS.
I’ve heard a lot of early Van Halen but not this early. Amazing!! Thank you!!
They always had that golden VH vibe - even here. Great post!
RIP Mark Stone.
Paul Revere & the Raiders one of my favorite 60s bands great that Ed liked them too
Young and on 🔥! Time was on their side. Where did all the good times go?
fantastic audio testimonies , of their very early days !!!
Rough n Raw VH ! Wonderful tribute ! May you soar in heaven with rocking angels ! God bless your kind soul Eddie !
Release the archives ya'll and let us binge with fine early metal EVH axe ation !
Raw guitar licks...diggin it!!!
They had the sound and style even back then. Including the taped guitar body. It's amazing it took 5 years to put out their debut album.
Tape does not make a guitar sound better. This was recorded so poorly. Nearly worthless.
I was talking about the style about the guitar and the the sound about the band.
RIP Eddie Van Halen :(
that's interesting I haven't heard much with mark stone!
+Harold Keil Mark played a bit with the legends band that played at the book signing party in Pasadena for Gregg Renoff's book last fall......he was as awesome as ever............and married to a lovely lady, and has a successful business and was really nice to those of us who knew him long ago, and wondered how he is!
Id like someday if the brothers would invite him on stage to jam one more time!
VH what's not to like? earned their place in time no doubt.
Wow......Eddie before the brown sound and before his own individual style had blossomed. You can hear that he was a hot shot, but he hadn't become Edward VH yet.
this aint van halen...lol... jesus...its dave
Dropsy517 Eddie had his style in 1973..he was already playing Guitar 8 years in 1973..so his genius was already established..in 1973..
Yep, no mistaking that style. The tone and drum sound weren't there yet, but they were well on their way.
Dave really should have recorded Kicks for one of his solo albums would have been so good with better production
I was thinking the same thing. It reminds me of his mellow solo stuff, YFLM era.
I like the production here. Yeah, it’s not polished, but I like the garage band sound. Sometimes I prefer rough cuts.
Yeah would have liked to seen this too
Great stuff.
SHINING LIKE A DIAMOND..... DIAMOND DAVID LEE ROTH, THAT IS!
I met him in his hotel room after a show, my wife was in the radio station, thats how we got in. He was the biggest dick you could ever meet. We stole his beer and left.
I love that story, what year was that? I read a book that said the VH brothers have always hated him because he is a spoiled dick.
Skid Row
Skid row
Song 1 not much to go off. Kind of like a pop psychedelic stomper. But song 2 you can definitely hear how early influences like Page and Iommi informed EVHs guitar playing from relative inception. In fact in that order as the early solo work on the song reminds me of Page’s fevered, edge of chaos shredding; while the solo work at the end of the song reminds me more of Tony Iommi’s gothic-tinged, Clapton-inspired solo handiwork. Song 3 sounds a lot like an early version of Mean Streets with some Hot For Teacher in there too. Solo pure Eddie. Awesome stuff here. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼👍🏼
That song Glitter is killer!! 🤘🏻💯
totally awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave and Eddie Anderson.. I was there during this picture in Detroit
diamond Dave already had his style down. I'm not the biggest Roth era VH fan BUT from this it's clear that Eddie is finding his style and Dave in some ways could be considered the beacon. In the verses in these songs you can see the early VH magic begin to take shape
Kicks has got a Partridge Family vibe !! Let David Cassidy sing this and its a hit record back in 1974 !!!
This makes NO sense.
Paul Revere and the Raiders even tried to dress like the Partridge Family... I guess ...😣🤪
I just realized today when I saw the thumb for this that Jason Lee was in Van Halen!!
Awesome!
Damn this fits right into that era as well theh should release all their shit now it would be a helluva way to pay him respect I was 1 going on 2 wow didn't know how much these mofos would impact my life
I wish Van Halen would get the lawyers to look at all this, and get this on to a big album.....cleaned up the best possible with new technology..........and sell it with Gregg's book. It would be great! Maybe they would give the money to build veteran housing......heh, heh, as that is my favorite charity...........and we are doing fundraising to build three tiered housing for blind, and brain injured and PTSD veterans and their families.
Eddie said he was thinking of releasing some old bootlegs for record store day but the source material can't be fixed; poor quality.
Elizabeth Wiley Hit them up on social media.
Although I could as someone who can do audio engineering if I had to do my own I definitely could improve the quality (LMF, HMF,) compression..More bass, etc...The original quality is so bad, it wouldnt be good enough to release it as an album. That being said it was cool to hear. I thought it be better but I can hear eddie begiinning to come into his own and Roth too, Could barely hear any bass. Still very cool as an old VH fan to hear.
@@thecollectivedawn You can't fix this.
@@CelestialWoodway
I dream of a way to listen to Listen to this *by_way
of filtering it
by placing my iPhone into a foam lined/ padded
plastic lunchbox with mistermicrophone
to filter it and hear it
how this would sounded monaural
On my AM radio like I would have heard this in the 1970s
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When FM rock radio, was still simulcast on AM
And I had a #battery_card
to get a “free battery”
every month from RadioShack
G of L has cool funky thing. Plus, on sure that's his MXR phaser on in the solo.
Gentlemen sounded like Pat Travers.
I'm so glad VH reached global phenomenon in the 80s and had credit to Beat It on the Thriller album because to sound like this in 1973 and get bad lib from other bands was just wrong. The 80s was it.
Wow!
Ed sounds like Hendrix around 2:30
I didnt know VH covered Paul Revere & the Raiders.
cool huh? It's crazy that they played that long before getting signed.
the EVH Hendrix influence is very apparent here
@CestpasMonvrainom Can anyone else hear a organ-type keyboard on KICKS? And what sounds like a piano, especially at the end. I'll bet that's Norman James "Jim" Pewsey. Might be him on background vocals as well. What do you all think? Jim died in a vehicle accident in July of 2013. I connected with his daughter Ivory on Facebook. She said her late father told her lots of stories about the Van Halen brothers. 😎
Van Halen should redo KICKS again, & put it out on a new CD...With a Better Quality Recording that song could be another HIT for them...
Ace Frehley just put it on his new Origins 2 CD.
@@after-arts4708 ACE SUCKS, A TOTAL HACK
are we sure that (kicks) is not a red ball jets sond from daves first band?
@Michael Veil I love "Eat Me Smile"!
Gene Simmon's would say that he wrote all the songs, played all the instruments, did everyone's hair, and provided the lunch. That's why they can't officially release this material.
Gene is an asshat
If Gene still had "the tapes" his greed would have released them looooooong ago.
Gene Simmons of KISSSSSSS.
Gene sucks, Kiss sucks, screw them.
@@retarteddwarf2182 Kissonline.com!
4:24
Eddie dropping in some grunge vibes 20 years prior. I knew he was a time traveler! 😜
sounds like cobain lol
Holy shit!
Ed would have been 18-19 here
The Red Ball Jets in Indy late '80's did Paul Revere & the Raiders tunes....singer Brandon Ingle-Was this your Jets? Did Brandon take over?
6:51 Hot For Teacher ending riff!
RIP EVH...MARK STONE.......
Running with the devil first song I ever heard by Van Halen early 1978 fresh and very very cool off my radios 2 inch speaker lol I've advanced since jr high lol
DLR's voice was a mixture of talent, alcohol, drugs, and ego. The talent is what made it sound good, the rest is what makes it sound like in most other situations.
These should be remastered and put compiliation
I CAN SMELL SABBATH PRIEST AND BUDGIE IN THE AIR.
Glitter is a pretty good song! Something about that guitar riff though. It's really cool, but is that a weird time signature or is it just me?
I heard a riff in there , that now lives in Where have all the good times gone. When he comes out of his solo. Listen it’s there and it sounds great
the second section is in 7 timing
Obviously Before the Brown Sound.
But Eddie had already learned by this time to use a variac on his input transformer. Listen.
Mammoth
So this would be King Edward at age 16 or 17ish?
+blasty5150 19, I think he is the same age as Dave. Surprised me when I read Gregg Renoff's book, I thought he was a few years younger when I met him, but I think the book says they both were 1955 birth dates.
How did u meet evh?
+Harold Keil The first time I saw Ed, my sisters and I had gone with Dave to see a band he was interested in becoming their singer..........the next time I met Ed, I had gone to Dr. Roth's house and as I came in I thought Dr. Roth must be home playing a Mozart piano album on the stereo. As I stepped into the room with the piano, I saw it was a young man playing the piano for real............Van Halen practiced in my garage for some years..........but truthfully I did not see them much, I worked two jobs and went to law school......and was raising my two sons. My younger son had said, I want a home, so I had found a house on a foreclosure sale that had been wrecked by the tenants, and bought it for taking over the loan.........I needed someone to help me restore it, they needed a place to practice. Six days a week, four hours a day they practiced, They had made arrangements with the neighbors to be least annoying, and soundproofed the garage.................most of the time when I was home, one or another of the band got any friends who dropped by, and me, to go out and hang up fliers for their next gigs...............Ed was mostly with a guitar and playing, plugged in or not, and when I saw the band at clubs or concerts, or big yard parties I only stayed a few minutes after putting my sons to bed, and on my way to work.............
Do u keep in any contact all with the brothers? Also how bumed out did u think mark stone was when they maid it.
+Harold Keil I met him at NAMM about 10 years ago. He smelled like weed and beer. Slurring his speech pretty bad.
Is it just me or did Mark Stone get more of a chance to shine then Mike?
SSupeeer
EVH tone sounds like SRV at beginning of glitter
Glitter is a killer song- they should record it properly.
actually it's MAMMOTH
Yes.
To me, and I think I'm being funny, It always in the photo stills in this time period, looks like David is saying,.. and you really think I'm not Janis Joplin?. And also, why did VH not do a cover of one of her songs. I think Eddie could do a heck of lot better guitar riffing in her songs, than the guys she had.
Eddie could have played in almost any band at the time , and quite easily dismiss whoever their guitar player was.
Randy Rhodes? Hmm
creatardkiller'it was MEAN STREET.
Eddies playing sounds much more like Hendrix in this recording. No tapping and wammy dives yet, but killer guitar playing none the less.
When DLR was serious about singing he was actually a better Singer than people give him credit for . 🤦✨🌟⚡💫🚨🔥💥💯🫣🧐😳🫢🫡😵😉🤔🤨🤯👀😶🌫️🙈🙉🙊
EVHendrix?
Gentlemen is Mean Streets
Kicks sounds typically late 1960s cringe pop music.
*This is Eddie at 18.*
Glitter reveals how Eddie learned how to play in one way and never grew thereafter. Interestingly, the song sounds like a mash-up of Jim McCarty of Cactus, Pete Townshend of The Who, an actual terrible guitarist, with a bit of Hendrix tossed in the end.
Meanwhile, here is a 19 year old's work:
th-cam.com/video/Kb_RJiFzLJ4/w-d-xo.html&
and when he was 15:
th-cam.com/video/GnM4gRcId70/w-d-xo.html
glitter has funny black impression.that became eruption and go leisure has a different speeddy tone all together.
kicks was great!! i cut my teeth on p.reveere and the raiders!!!!
Not alot of the lickety split Edward stuff, yet.
Rock Royalty
🎸😢⭐🌟🌠✨💫🌌
Theres that Uli
I was in the 4th grade
glitter.....the who influence....
Damn, you can hear how inspired the Glitter solo is by Iommi and Black Sabbath in general
Early days alright, I was only 2 y/o
DAVID SAID HE REALIZED, STARDOM, AT THE AGE OF 9...
You'll never hear a teenager play this well ever.
You need to hear the early days of PanterA pre Phil Anselmo. There's TH-cam footage of Dimebag absolutely tearing it up at around 17 that's has to be heard.
@svtrader aren't we forgetting the "Canon Rock" viral video from a few years back? I believe that was just a teen who played that.
There are tons more teenagers out there playing better than Eddie ever did younger. He was a pioneer, sure but now that kids have all the amazing guitarists since to learn from they've picked up a lot of that.
i dont believe eddie played on kicks there nothing of his tone there.
Please see the description :)
Second song needed slowed down with grittier guitar and grindier bass
But then it didn't sound right when it slowed down until it turned soloish and a little faster
Amazing how clear and crisp their records were when van Halen debuted compared to this handheld transistor radio sound
They should have kept Mark Stone on bass.
Everything great happens after 10 pm , The police and your parents do not want you to discover this out. You mean wealthy people enjoy this thing called night life ? You mean we are so poor that we have to settle for TV and reading. Find some kicks kids.
is that Dave's boy friend in the reflection?
grow up
oh so there do exist some Van Halen that isn't just a sleeping pill of a boring song.
Never liked the way Alex played ahead of the beat on everything. Kind of like Peter Criss.
That's why we're reading your comments today and have been listening to Alex play drums for years and years.......
Somebody should tell Alex and Peter they are going nowhere .
RodneyLee never liked your dumb opinion
Glitter is too busy to the point it's unenjoyable. A (little) less is more.
Can't even hear the drums! Horrible mix.
well yeah, 'horrible mix' because the recording is from the early 1970s.
We all had horrible mixes and bad monitoring back then....it is what it is. Be thankful for what is being given.
This ain't no Van Halen! Thumbs fuckin down!
Ask yo' mom to read the description for ya!
Well this truly sucks
The Marshall squeal is so good on these demos.