First blackmagic drops their 6k pro! Then this happens! Btw, out of everybody who made a video ok this camera I clicked yours because you actually make films, and you care more about the usability than the specs!
@Jerimiah Cook: Motivation yeah i know, definitely looking at getting that one! Even if i have a few sony lenses and this camera has autofocus, i think the blackmagic raw and a built in ND is a way better option
100% i love how he uses new cameras in depth for his projects in different ways ( not like other youtubers that collect cameras and don't film anything).
@Jerimiah Cook I own a 6k pro, but I am getting a fx3 for event work. I am tired of my back aching after schlepping my heavy rigged out BMPCC all day long.
Best FX3 hands-on by far. What separates you from all other TH-camrs is your work; You are an actual working, talented, pro cinematographer. Your sample footage looks like a movie clip!
two things to this video, there are 3.5mm jack in the handle which makes the main jack on the camera inactive, second there is additional record button at the front which is handy to press record while right hand is holding the handle.
This camera is a fantastic camera, don't get me wrong, but it's just weird to be bringing this out with what they already have out, and like Gerald Undone said, it's not a true cinema camera as it doesn't have time code, built in nd filters, dci 4k, true 24fps or even shutter angle. I'm glad we have someone like Mark though at the end of the day actually using these cameras for their intended purposes rather than just vlogging with them and adding terrible Peter Mckinnon styled B Roll.
I ignore gelad Undone say. I listen poeple who had more film experience or education than pnly doing vididos for youtbe in their knowledge. Like mark you losten how he review difference than someone who they not for real know real film work. Like iimternal nd was never cinema it be vidido camera. Addition, I will film cinema a toy camera. it have nothng in do with specs howver poeple who act like they know cinema becuase they learn by youtbe think cinema be specs. Those channels who act like they know be worst of internet for they teach worng or false things next we get stupid movies.
@@RavenwolfPictures20 i understand it, basically what they're saying is there's a ton of youtubers with barely any real world film experience who only make TH-cam videos trying to judge what makes a good cinema camera and we should take their opinions with a grain of salt
This channel deserves to blow up! But loving the little community of similar people responding in the comments. Props as always Mark! The amount of knowledge you share is ridiculous and i've had years of being a doc filmmaker. Seriously amazing!
I've got to say, when I read your community post about this video and how people complained(?) you didn't mention the A7SIII, I also thought it was strange to not do but now after seeing the video, it felt like a really fresh take to review the camera on its own merits with spending two thirds of the video comparing it to the A7SIII like most other youtubers done (which is totally fine and I understand why because they really are similar in a lot of ways). Anyway good job and I really enjoyed the footage you manage to get out of that camera.
One good hack for the lack of record button on the handle - remap the button present on many sony lenses to activate recording. This is also a boon for shooting in manual when you want to keep your left hand on the lens. Hold top handle with right hand, lens with left, and with left thumb start / stop recording. Works perfectly.
Maybe TH-cam compression is messing with the footage but 400,000 ISO actually looked useable to me! Obviously not ideal but totally useable in my opinion if you need to use it for some reason.
I actually did replace my BM camera with the Sony FX3. I’ve always adored the color science and codecs that BM offers, but the FX3 just offers so many incredible ease of use features that you just can’t get anywhere else for the price. I wish it had shutter angle and false color, but otherwise I love everything about this beast.
Wait, when did not having an EVF make something a cinema camera? To me that's a major negative. I want an EVF, they are super useful and I shoot with them all the time on my cinema cameras. To me the lack of EVF makes this not a cinema camera. At the very least I think Sony should have included an EVF that you can mount on the hotshoe or on one of the 1/4-2 mounts all over the camera. Also the lack of built in NDs is a turn off as well. At that price, I don't want to be dealing with NDs on my lenses anymore. Other than those two things I think it's cool.
Because most of the time people use an external evf or an external monitor. Last time I checked no arri or red camera has a built in viewfinder on the body
Yep. Silly stuff. There's no significant advantage of the camera over the A7SIII. An XLR unit could be bought for the A7SIII. There are lots of cages for the A7SIII, which are far more versatile than the screw holes on the FX3. Marketing is serious stuff and fools even clever people.
My only big hesitation with it is no internal variable ND. At nearly $4k, that makes it a no-go for me personally. If it was in the $2k-$3k range it'd be a no brainer add on, but I just don't see it justifying itself as much different from the A7Siii. Or during a pandemic justifying itself in my workflow. That said, if I could sell my FX9 + accessories for $12k, it'd be a no brainer to switch to an FX6 and FX3 setup from the FX9. But not sure in this market that's realistic right now.
I definitely agree. On board ND is becoming more of a standard (thankfully) and there are a few options out there like blackmagic and z cam that are beginning to offer it. Maybe they can make a variable Nd adapter like canon has? Idk 4 grand for something with no proress or Nd is tough even given how great it is in low light.
@@xavieryt412 A great camera - however I'm in the sony system heavily, and I think E mount (full frame especially) is a much better overall system to be in than EF at this stage, and Autofocus matters to me in the work I do.
The only realistic review I've watched of the fx3 now (i watched a good amount). Everyone else is just complaining that it isn't a "real" cinema camera because it doesn't have built in ND and shutter angle 🤦🏻♂️
yeah i dont get what the big deal is, i have my variable ND on my lens at all times, not that big of a deal. shutter angle they can easily add in firmware update
The FX3 rolling shutter is there but I mostly see it during hand-held footage, specifically during the camera operator's foot steps or any small but sharp bumps to the camera. It's a very subtle jello cam effect, vs global shutter or film cameras that look rock solid even with no stabilization at all. I may be looking at it with a harder critical eye than other mirrorless cameras because of the "cinema" designation, because compared to other full frame mirrorless cameras in the same price range or lower, it's quite good! If anyone wants a faster readout speed but doesn't want to break the bank, go with a smaller sensor like m4/3, my ancient GH5 has near global shutter quality. Otherwise, I'm loving the FX3!
As many have pointed out, your statement at 9:05 is silly because your left hand was 0.5mm away from a second record button. This is clearly visible at 10:26. For timecode, it's not too bad as you can mount an external "DSLR" type timecode box and connect it through input 3 on the top handle. Which brings me to my next point. This is meant to be much more portable and versatile than the larger cameras like an FX6. One awesome feature that I use when filming events (like a wedding) is that I can set the FX3 on a tripod somewhere in the church, pull up my Imaging Edge Mobile app, and wirelessly monitor the video on my smart phone. Add that to the mobile functions of some external timecode boxes - boom, got yourself a some very useful "one-man band" wireless features. My biggest complaint is why Sony cannot do a very simple change to the shutter display setting. I don't care if they lie to me, I just want to see it - Shutter Angle. I'll be happy if I'm shooting at 23.976 FPS and it tells me 1/50s is 180 degrees even though it's slightly off and isn't a true 180 degrees.
Except besides sony labeling it a cinema camera there isn't any real differences in IQ or USABILITY between this and the a7siii. And it's $400 more so not the same price
@@ResizeFilms its a great camera but depending on your needs it may actually be less useful. I shoot mostly weddings and you'd be surprised how handy an evf is in those scenarios. Only nice thing about the fx3 for me is the mic module on top but to be honest audio is usually better recorded externally anyway
Sick rig. Love my a7siii! very similar camera.. both RULE. We are spoiled these days....still have my GH1. Crazy what 10 years in technology brings...exponential growth.
They went with 12MP because it allows fast readout and minimizes rolling shutter. There is no more light per pixel no matter the size of the pixel. Theoretically there could be less noise bleed between them though higher resolution sensors are already demonstrating the irrelevance of this theory as well with the more recent sensors.
When you said "your mirrorless camera wasn't made for video, it's trying to be", then i looked at the date this video posted, and i realised it was before Z9, so i understand.
I just switched over to Sony, I will say the first thing I noticed is that Nikon's built in screens are leaps and bounds better than my FX3. The Menu's are SOOO much better on my Nikon Z6 too. But let's see how his FX3 works out. I'm excited to put it to work on my next project.
I was REALLY hoping for a VND. I don't really see the point without one. No TC's not that big of a deal, you can always sync with audio waveforms, or a slate, etc., etc.
Time Code is a huge deal if you're using an actual cinema camera, especially in the broadcasting world, this camera falters and is only in the cinema line for marketing reasons. It also doesn't have true 24fps, dci 4k or shutter angle either.
When that flat images came up and then your LUT kicked in I was like "oh baby" - Nice video dude. I'm not a Sony fan anymore but this camera and your review definitely makes me wanna go back to Sony
I mean..it's the A7s III let's be honest here. Can easily buy the top handle and hot shoe mic adapter from Sony and you have the same setup but an EVF. Yes, price-wise this is a bit better but they should have just added built-in NDs and add a couple of hundred bucks more to make this worth its own release. Ergonomically, this is still a mirrorless camera, not a cinema camera.
Watch Gerald Undone's video on this camera, perfectly explains what you've said because it is an A7S3 in a different shell. And built in variable NDs won't ever be possible in a Sony mirrorless camera unless they completely redesign the entire body for a brand new mirrorless line.
From the video perspective, I would go for FX3 over A7sIII. I know inside they are both the same but this cinematic cosmetics, cinetone and dedicated handle with audio make it worth it. You can always snap a photo if needed so sound like a good option. If I could change anything I would love to see FX3 with an Alpha 1 sensor. But that probably happen in the future. Thanks for the review Mark. 👍
Why would you go on a "cinema camera" if it's the same as the A7Siii but more expensive ? So is the A7Siii a "cinema camera" ? I dont understand, cinema camera mean nothing in that case, because all the cinema features are not on that camera.
I just got a A7SIII yesterday, kept it in the box to see if I’d be returning it to get this. I think I’ll be keeping it. It’s a little cheaper, I still will be taking some photos with it but love how good at video it is.
Hey Mark 🙋🏻♂️ I’m revisiting yours and Matti’s video about the FX3 and FX6 haha, I bought the BMPCC 6K Pro and I’m not in the position to replace it with the FX3, I’m looking forward to the switch, thanks for all your videos so far 👏🏼 so good to see 💪🏽
If I saw in the release properly, custom button 6 is also a record button. Maybe slightly less awkward than crossing your left hand under the top handle to hit record, especially if your left hand is already on the lens. I've gotta see more reviews and discussion about rolling shutter, interesting that you found it basically a non-issue. Some pan tests I've seen with the A7SIII and FX3 make it look fairly pronounced. Either way, built in ND's would've 100% sold me. I currently shoot stills + video on a Nikon Z6, so definitely compromised a lot on the video side. So as a jumping off point for a non Sony user interested in video, it almost makes sense for me (cause I've already got a lovely little stills camera, no need for A7SIII EVF). But, factor in an E-mount lens that can take advantage of the autofocus of any of these cameras as well as a XLR mic, and I'm pretty close to an FX6 body. Anyway, great video, you seemed stoked to use it, which maybe is half (or 1/4) of the battle. If it inspires you, then you can't really put a price on that (Z6 + cage + handle + Ninja V + external battery for only 4k30 10-bit 4:2:2 max is not super inspiring, especially as I want to get into more sports/workout shooting and would love to be able to shoot higher fps)
Just got mine, Love it so far. Wish the would give it False colors, Shutter degree and maybe Raw internally to make it different than the A7sIII and make it a "cinema" camera. I replaced my P6K, which I loved, but I wanted a lighter set up.
@@VacationRentalShow None of the dual-iso Panasonic cameras have stabilised sensors as far as I know. GH5S, Eva1, Varicam LT 4K, Varicam 35, Varicam Pure 4K and the BGH1 all have non-stabilised sensors
@@VacationRentalShow Interesting, I didn’t know that. So does the FX3 have dual-iso? It doesn’t seem like it has, at least when reading about the camera on B&H
I'm coming into your review late, and I'm sure you eventually figured this out: but all of the numbered buttons can be reassigned. And even without reassigning, by default, the face button on the FX3 is another record button (6). It even says REC on it. And that's the easier button to hit with your left hand, while your right hand is holding the top handle instead of the REC on the top of the camera. For the rest, I mostly agree. I wish there was more mounting points for a monitor, the rear of the top handle isn't ideal to me. The LCD is far too small. Getting good exposure without waveforms is a fools errand. I personally would've also loved the FX3 more if it removed the IBIS in favor of internal ND's. Obviously I would love to have both, but in the event I have to choose, I'd rather have the FX6 solution of internal eND over IBIS. Genlock and Timecode as you say are also missing. I wish it also had SDI for its RAW output and monitors in general. HDMI just introduces lag due to the nature of the interface. I also wish the FX6 and FX3 had a locking mount. I probably would be willing to pay Sony $300 for that "upgrade" (as in, if I could send it to a service center and they would perform that upgrade, I'd pay that level of money for it). And it's frustrating that both Canon and Sony have intentionally withheld that important feature on cameras like the FX6 and C70 and now also the FX3. The FX3 also has terrible noise reduction that can't be turned off. But if you're careful and learn the camera you can avoid a lot of it. The FX6 handles this much better and also gives much better granular control. However, the image that comes out of this thing is insane. Best in class AF. Competent audio (which is huge in a camera like this). Long record times. Excellent codec. Great workflow in Slog3 in Resolve (post being an area that can make or break a lot of cameras). The A7S3, FX6, and FX3 share the same sensor and that is also a big advantage. As it allows different cameras to be used depending on the situation and still easily match them in post. It wouldn't be hard to use the FX3 as car cams as an example and the FX6 out in the open when there is more space. There's a lot to like in the FX3.
Good stuff, man! Nice to see that Sony added the ability to timecode jam in their firmware update recently (via an additional cable), but what I wish it had is flat 24fps as well as shutter angle (and perhaps C4K)! Otherwise a solid little cam!
Hey Mark, 3.5 input on the xlr handle can be fed a time code signal from a tentacle on two of the FX3’s cameras audio tracks and the XLR Chanel’s would still be available for a nice short phantom shotgun mic like the deity SMic2S or Sennheiser avx receivers
Video Cinema Camera First? I’m thinking it’s video-centric, 10 bit 422 raw,, A7S3 with a few 1/4-20 holes and a grey paint job. More like a stripped down budget FX-6, and “Bob’s your uncle?” B-roll camera, C- Camera, or pickup shots, might be okay for vlogging?
Shooting 24fps handheld , run and gun style chose : The Fx6 with a camera heavy enough to eliminate camera shakes ??????? or The FX3 with IBIS ?????????
Great and detailed review BUT you seem to have forgotten to SONY kind of already released this camera ... they called it to A7S3. They added a fan (a good thing) , removed the EVF... and saying “send me more money”. :)
This is a tempting little monster. Gunna have to look at other reviews to get an idea on the stills in low light, but if this is comparable to the A7siii, I might go for this over that. I also like the idea of it being a vlogging camera and something very low profile for when I am in public and don't want to attract a load of attention with my fx9. But again, my next two purchases are putting a drone as priority and then a stills camera that is good in lowlight.
Yo I listen to "I Got the Juice" regularly. Didn't expect to hear it in one of your videos though. I've really enjoyed following your channel the last ~6 months!
That was amazing, I did test the A7SIII but still confused why would Sony call this a cine camera? at least wish they add Raw option or built-in Nd filter !! Thanks Mark for a good review.
It's not possible in the style of their mirrorless bodies, the only way blackmagic get away with it in a camera so small is because its not an electronic variable ND and their cameras are actually built around cinema ergonomics, Sony will never have that unless they redesigned the entire body. The only reason they made this camera is for more marketing.
Hey man just scored one of these cameras for work my usual work horse is the canon c200 and have loved it . Just getting my head around the menus is full on would love to see some kind of vid of how you set you’re one up for shooting run and gun I’m new to small cameras
Kinda funny how every filmmaking TH-camr in Canada except for Peter McKinnon all uploaded at the exact same time today for the exact same camera 😂 Awesome video as always Mark, I've been really keen on getting into the cinema camera space away from typical mirrorless bodies. I was really considering the BMPCC 6K for a while, then this came out so .... 😭😭
unless you mostly shoot Doc and Videography work, skip this and get the PK6K. Much more filmic look and better skin tones. And built in NDs. And it's still cheaper lol. I feel some of these creators got paid to say what they said to promote Sony. Don't get me wrong, I like Sony a lot and shoot on the A7s and FS7 quite a bit. But this is just an A7siii repackaged a bit. Just changing the name to cinema camera and adding a top handle doesn't make it one. If you wanna get good at commercial/music video/narrative work, get a Pocket 6K or wait til you can afford the FX6. At least, that's what I'll be doing.
Great review. Since I'm still waiting for the fx6 to ship (damn you pesky backorders!), I'll probably wait a year or so and pick this up used as a B-cam. I like the fact that Sony made a camera with a small form factor that you can use in normally awkward places. I'd feel more comfortable running with this camera than with a heavier fx6... that is, if they ever ship it to me! (Naw, I'm not bitter at all at the 2+ months I've waited. Not in the least bit.)
The footage is only okay. Nothing wow about the camera. I also like bigger builds for cinema cameras because they help with the shakiness and adds a little weight to help. But if you don't have a cinema camera and this is an introduction maybe it's the way to go also if you don't have a sonya7siii. But to me I would say keep the sony a7siii and get a Sony FX6.
Dope video as always. I always enjoy your perspective on camera systems. Also respect for the dream junkies track! Side note I hear there is a camera manufacturer that has really nice 5 inch screens on the back of there cameras...just saying lol
An interesting camera, but Sony slightly missed the mark. Could've been a home run. [Maybe the FX3 II will nail it] Including IBIS over Internal ND (electronic) as all other "Cinema Line" cameras have was a mistake. This camera will often end up on gimbals where that ND would've been a big deal,, and Gimbal work is a big reason for FX9/FX6 owners to purchase one as a B cam. Additionally, the lack of viewfinder and the lack of SDI, with no option to add an EVF besides a monitor.. makes it a very questionable choice over the A7SIII.
Sony seems to have hit a fricking gold mine with this sensor. They've already shoved it into 3 cameras. Reminds me of the OG Alexa sensor that they used in almost all their cameras... I think they are still using the og sensor. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
Everyone needs to start complain about no shutter angle option and no true 24p so they at least add it in firmware. I would say 4K DCI also, but I dont think they can add that now(?).
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First blackmagic drops their 6k pro! Then this happens! Btw, out of everybody who made a video ok this camera I clicked yours because you actually make films, and you care more about the usability than the specs!
@Jerimiah Cook: Motivation yeah i know, definitely looking at getting that one! Even if i have a few sony lenses and this camera has autofocus, i think the blackmagic raw and a built in ND is a way better option
100% i love how he uses new cameras in depth for his projects in different ways ( not like other youtubers that collect cameras and don't film anything).
@Jerimiah Cook I own a 6k pro, but I am getting a fx3 for event work. I am tired of my back aching after schlepping my heavy rigged out BMPCC all day long.
Best FX3 hands-on by far. What separates you from all other TH-camrs is your work; You are an actual working, talented, pro cinematographer. Your sample footage looks like a movie clip!
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I agree, Mark actually puts his money where his mouth is with the incredible shots he gets, so we should all definitely be listening to his advice.
GREAT! I am gonna spend next 30 days watching reviews of FX3.
haha, me too
two things to this video, there are 3.5mm jack in the handle which makes the main jack on the camera inactive, second there is additional record button at the front which is handy to press record while right hand is holding the handle.
This camera is a fantastic camera, don't get me wrong, but it's just weird to be bringing this out with what they already have out, and like Gerald Undone said, it's not a true cinema camera as it doesn't have time code, built in nd filters, dci 4k, true 24fps or even shutter angle. I'm glad we have someone like Mark though at the end of the day actually using these cameras for their intended purposes rather than just vlogging with them and adding terrible Peter Mckinnon styled B Roll.
I ignore gelad Undone say. I listen poeple who had more film experience or education than pnly doing vididos for youtbe in their knowledge. Like mark you losten how he review difference than someone who they not for real know real film work. Like iimternal nd was never cinema it be vidido camera. Addition, I will film cinema a toy camera. it have nothng in do with specs howver poeple who act like they know cinema becuase they learn by youtbe think cinema be specs. Those channels who act like they know be worst of internet for they teach worng or false things next we get stupid movies.
@@Tuernah I have no idea what you're trying to say.. more than half of this isn't even spelled right and it doesn't make any sense.
@@RavenwolfPictures20 Dont judge me just for I speak in my different way. My stylemof laguage it be not our point.
@@Tuernah I'm not judging, I'm just saying it's impossible to understand.
@@RavenwolfPictures20 i understand it, basically what they're saying is there's a ton of youtubers with barely any real world film experience who only make TH-cam videos trying to judge what makes a good cinema camera and we should take their opinions with a grain of salt
This channel deserves to blow up! But loving the little community of similar people responding in the comments. Props as always Mark! The amount of knowledge you share is ridiculous and i've had years of being a doc filmmaker. Seriously amazing!
lost for words, all I can say is WOW! What a unit. I am a Panasonic bloke but this is just pulling me for sooooooo many reasons
I've got to say, when I read your community post about this video and how people complained(?) you didn't mention the A7SIII, I also thought it was strange to not do but now after seeing the video, it felt like a really fresh take to review the camera on its own merits with spending two thirds of the video comparing it to the A7SIII like most other youtubers done (which is totally fine and I understand why because they really are similar in a lot of ways).
Anyway good job and I really enjoyed the footage you manage to get out of that camera.
One good hack for the lack of record button on the handle - remap the button present on many sony lenses to activate recording. This is also a boon for shooting in manual when you want to keep your left hand on the lens. Hold top handle with right hand, lens with left, and with left thumb start / stop recording. Works perfectly.
Maybe TH-cam compression is messing with the footage but 400,000 ISO actually looked useable to me! Obviously not ideal but totally useable in my opinion if you need to use it for some reason.
I actually did replace my BM camera with the Sony FX3. I’ve always adored the color science and codecs that BM offers, but the FX3 just offers so many incredible ease of use features that you just can’t get anywhere else for the price. I wish it had shutter angle and false color, but otherwise I love everything about this beast.
What do you mean with shutter angle and false color?
Wait, when did not having an EVF make something a cinema camera? To me that's a major negative. I want an EVF, they are super useful and I shoot with them all the time on my cinema cameras. To me the lack of EVF makes this not a cinema camera. At the very least I think Sony should have included an EVF that you can mount on the hotshoe or on one of the 1/4-2 mounts all over the camera.
Also the lack of built in NDs is a turn off as well. At that price, I don't want to be dealing with NDs on my lenses anymore. Other than those two things I think it's cool.
AFAIK, cinematographers use EVFs aaaaall the time on the ARRIs, so I agree with ya there..!
Because most of the time people use an external evf or an external monitor. Last time I checked no arri or red camera has a built in viewfinder on the body
@@stevengonz yeah but Sony isn’t even offering an external EVF for this camera. Both ARRI and Red offer them for their cameras.
Yep. Silly stuff. There's no significant advantage of the camera over the A7SIII. An XLR unit could be bought for the A7SIII. There are lots of cages for the A7SIII, which are far more versatile than the screw holes on the FX3. Marketing is serious stuff and fools even clever people.
My only big hesitation with it is no internal variable ND. At nearly $4k, that makes it a no-go for me personally. If it was in the $2k-$3k range it'd be a no brainer add on, but I just don't see it justifying itself as much different from the A7Siii. Or during a pandemic justifying itself in my workflow. That said, if I could sell my FX9 + accessories for $12k, it'd be a no brainer to switch to an FX6 and FX3 setup from the FX9. But not sure in this market that's realistic right now.
In the same boat... Internal ND would've been the game changer... makes it a tough choice as an FX9 owner.
I definitely agree. On board ND is becoming more of a standard (thankfully) and there are a few options out there like blackmagic and z cam that are beginning to offer it. Maybe they can make a variable Nd adapter like canon has? Idk 4 grand for something with no proress or Nd is tough even given how great it is in low light.
$2500 BMPCC 6K PRO bro
@@xavieryt412 A great camera - however I'm in the sony system heavily, and I think E mount (full frame especially) is a much better overall system to be in than EF at this stage, and Autofocus matters to me in the work I do.
The only realistic review I've watched of the fx3 now (i watched a good amount).
Everyone else is just complaining that it isn't a "real" cinema camera because it doesn't have built in ND and shutter angle 🤦🏻♂️
yeah i dont get what the big deal is, i have my variable ND on my lens at all times, not that big of a deal. shutter angle they can easily add in firmware update
The FX3 rolling shutter is there but I mostly see it during hand-held footage, specifically during the camera operator's foot steps or any small but sharp bumps to the camera. It's a very subtle jello cam effect, vs global shutter or film cameras that look rock solid even with no stabilization at all. I may be looking at it with a harder critical eye than other mirrorless cameras because of the "cinema" designation, because compared to other full frame mirrorless cameras in the same price range or lower, it's quite good! If anyone wants a faster readout speed but doesn't want to break the bank, go with a smaller sensor like m4/3, my ancient GH5 has near global shutter quality. Otherwise, I'm loving the FX3!
Wow, that video you shot hand's on with the FX3! Wow!!!
Thanks mate!!
I literally drop everything to watch your videos when they drop. Thank you for always making incredible content!
As many have pointed out, your statement at 9:05 is silly because your left hand was 0.5mm away from a second record button. This is clearly visible at 10:26.
For timecode, it's not too bad as you can mount an external "DSLR" type timecode box and connect it through input 3 on the top handle. Which brings me to my next point.
This is meant to be much more portable and versatile than the larger cameras like an FX6. One awesome feature that I use when filming events (like a wedding) is that I can set the FX3 on a tripod somewhere in the church, pull up my Imaging Edge Mobile app, and wirelessly monitor the video on my smart phone. Add that to the mobile functions of some external timecode boxes - boom, got yourself a some very useful "one-man band" wireless features.
My biggest complaint is why Sony cannot do a very simple change to the shutter display setting. I don't care if they lie to me, I just want to see it - Shutter Angle. I'll be happy if I'm shooting at 23.976 FPS and it tells me 1/50s is 180 degrees even though it's slightly off and isn't a true 180 degrees.
Absolutely brilliant camera for professional video work.
I’ve been loving shooting with it, really is an impressive package. Very satisfied.
Song is classic! 🙌 John Givez and Ruslan. Nice!
Bien my bro! Vengase un día por Ecuador y nos pegamos un ceviche de pescado. Thank you for your service Mark.
Wow! A cinema camera for the same price as an A7s iii. Thanks for this review Mark. Exciting times!
Except besides sony labeling it a cinema camera there isn't any real differences in IQ or USABILITY between this and the a7siii. And it's $400 more so not the same price
The FX3 is a brilliant camera, way more suitable and reliable for professional video work than the a7S III hands down.
@@ResizeFilms its a great camera but depending on your needs it may actually be less useful. I shoot mostly weddings and you'd be surprised how handy an evf is in those scenarios. Only nice thing about the fx3 for me is the mic module on top but to be honest audio is usually better recorded externally anyway
i've watched like 20 fx3 review videos, this is the one that fully convinced me and had me wanting it the most great video man!!
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Sick rig. Love my a7siii! very similar camera.. both RULE. We are spoiled these days....still have my GH1. Crazy what 10 years in technology brings...exponential growth.
They went with 12MP because it allows fast readout and minimizes rolling shutter. There is no more light per pixel no matter the size of the pixel. Theoretically there could be less noise bleed between them though higher resolution sensors are already demonstrating the irrelevance of this theory as well with the more recent sensors.
When you said "your mirrorless camera wasn't made for video, it's trying to be", then i looked at the date this video posted, and i realised it was before Z9, so i understand.
I just switched over to Sony, I will say the first thing I noticed is that Nikon's built in screens are leaps and bounds better than my FX3. The Menu's are SOOO much better on my Nikon Z6 too. But let's see how his FX3 works out. I'm excited to put it to work on my next project.
I was REALLY hoping for a VND. I don't really see the point without one. No TC's not that big of a deal, you can always sync with audio waveforms, or a slate, etc., etc.
Time Code is a huge deal if you're using an actual cinema camera, especially in the broadcasting world, this camera falters and is only in the cinema line for marketing reasons. It also doesn't have true 24fps, dci 4k or shutter angle either.
@@RavenwolfPictures20 even my gh5 had shutter angle! It sucks that Sony haven’t brought that to their “video focussed “camera range
@@benpritchard84 Yeah same I remember that on my GH5! I can't believe Sony don't have that on video focused cameras
When that flat images came up and then your LUT kicked in I was like "oh baby" - Nice video dude. I'm not a Sony fan anymore but this camera and your review definitely makes me wanna go back to Sony
Finally an actual FX3 Review for actual people who want an actual budget cinema camera.. :D
You can always add timecode by using an Atomos Ninja V with the AtomX SYNC module.
This is true, but built in TC is always 💯
Exactly!
I mean..it's the A7s III let's be honest here. Can easily buy the top handle and hot shoe mic adapter from Sony and you have the same setup but an EVF. Yes, price-wise this is a bit better but they should have just added built-in NDs and add a couple of hundred bucks more to make this worth its own release. Ergonomically, this is still a mirrorless camera, not a cinema camera.
Watch Gerald Undone's video on this camera, perfectly explains what you've said because it is an A7S3 in a different shell. And built in variable NDs won't ever be possible in a Sony mirrorless camera unless they completely redesign the entire body for a brand new mirrorless line.
What are your thoughts on the FX3? Will you go A7SIII ?
I want both but my wallet laughs at me every time I mention any of the two. 😂
I’ll go bmpcc 6k pro that is still less than both of those
From the video perspective, I would go for FX3 over A7sIII. I know inside they are both the same but this cinematic cosmetics, cinetone and dedicated handle with audio make it worth it. You can always snap a photo if needed so sound like a good option. If I could change anything I would love to see FX3 with an Alpha 1 sensor. But that probably happen in the future. Thanks for the review Mark. 👍
Why would you go on a "cinema camera" if it's the same as the A7Siii but more expensive ? So is the A7Siii a "cinema camera" ? I dont understand, cinema camera mean nothing in that case, because all the cinema features are not on that camera.
I just got a A7SIII yesterday, kept it in the box to see if I’d be returning it to get this. I think I’ll be keeping it. It’s a little cheaper, I still will be taking some photos with it but love how good at video it is.
are you a believer? noticed the awesome music choice and you’re one of my go tos with camera stuff!
It’s a low light beauty, and the colors are awesome.
Hey Mark 🙋🏻♂️ I’m revisiting yours and Matti’s video about the FX3 and FX6 haha, I bought the BMPCC 6K Pro and I’m not in the position to replace it with the FX3, I’m looking forward to the switch, thanks for all your videos so far 👏🏼 so good to see 💪🏽
Sony has made several different versions of the A7Siii...FX6 and now the FX3. BRILLIANT!
Looking forward to the Documentary Course 🔥🔥🔥
If I saw in the release properly, custom button 6 is also a record button. Maybe slightly less awkward than crossing your left hand under the top handle to hit record, especially if your left hand is already on the lens. I've gotta see more reviews and discussion about rolling shutter, interesting that you found it basically a non-issue. Some pan tests I've seen with the A7SIII and FX3 make it look fairly pronounced. Either way, built in ND's would've 100% sold me.
I currently shoot stills + video on a Nikon Z6, so definitely compromised a lot on the video side. So as a jumping off point for a non Sony user interested in video, it almost makes sense for me (cause I've already got a lovely little stills camera, no need for A7SIII EVF). But, factor in an E-mount lens that can take advantage of the autofocus of any of these cameras as well as a XLR mic, and I'm pretty close to an FX6 body.
Anyway, great video, you seemed stoked to use it, which maybe is half (or 1/4) of the battle. If it inspires you, then you can't really put a price on that (Z6 + cage + handle + Ninja V + external battery for only 4k30 10-bit 4:2:2 max is not super inspiring, especially as I want to get into more sports/workout shooting and would love to be able to shoot higher fps)
Just got mine, Love it so far. Wish the would give it False colors, Shutter degree and maybe Raw internally to make it different than the A7sIII and make it a "cinema" camera. I replaced my P6K, which I loved, but I wanted a lighter set up.
launched the video before the announcement !!!
naw! Launched at 10am on the dot! ;)
This would be a must-buy for me if it had the built-in ND.
LMAO "measurbators"...keeping that one in the vocabulary for sure
💯 they are always the people with terrible reels. Concerned about specs and not about filmmaking
@@markbone I may or may not have been a measurbator before finding your channel, Mark 😅 currently in recovery
@@hartmanic4275 lol, we've all been through it man, the first step is admitting you're a spec addict
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Best review i've seen on this one! Your test footage looks amazing man!!
The FX3 doesn’t have dual base iso? 03:00 If it had, it would be the first dual base iso camera with a stabilised sensor
What about all the dual-iso stabilized Panasonics?
@@VacationRentalShow None of the dual-iso Panasonic cameras have stabilised sensors as far as I know. GH5S, Eva1, Varicam LT 4K, Varicam 35, Varicam Pure 4K and the BGH1 all have non-stabilised sensors
@@cibof2535 S1H is dual native ISO as is the S5. So is the S1, although it was not marketed as such, originally.
@@VacationRentalShow Interesting, I didn’t know that. So does the FX3 have dual-iso? It doesn’t seem like it has, at least when reading about the camera on B&H
@@cibof2535 well, according to @Mark Bone in this video, it does! What was it, 640/12800? Or 800/12800, one of those two.
I'm coming into your review late, and I'm sure you eventually figured this out: but all of the numbered buttons can be reassigned.
And even without reassigning, by default, the face button on the FX3 is another record button (6). It even says REC on it.
And that's the easier button to hit with your left hand, while your right hand is holding the top handle instead of the REC on the top of the camera.
For the rest, I mostly agree. I wish there was more mounting points for a monitor, the rear of the top handle isn't ideal to me. The LCD is far too small. Getting good exposure without waveforms is a fools errand. I personally would've also loved the FX3 more if it removed the IBIS in favor of internal ND's. Obviously I would love to have both, but in the event I have to choose, I'd rather have the FX6 solution of internal eND over IBIS.
Genlock and Timecode as you say are also missing. I wish it also had SDI for its RAW output and monitors in general. HDMI just introduces lag due to the nature of the interface.
I also wish the FX6 and FX3 had a locking mount. I probably would be willing to pay Sony $300 for that "upgrade" (as in, if I could send it to a service center and they would perform that upgrade, I'd pay that level of money for it). And it's frustrating that both Canon and Sony have intentionally withheld that important feature on cameras like the FX6 and C70 and now also the FX3.
The FX3 also has terrible noise reduction that can't be turned off. But if you're careful and learn the camera you can avoid a lot of it. The FX6 handles this much better and also gives much better granular control.
However, the image that comes out of this thing is insane. Best in class AF. Competent audio (which is huge in a camera like this). Long record times. Excellent codec. Great workflow in Slog3 in Resolve (post being an area that can make or break a lot of cameras).
The A7S3, FX6, and FX3 share the same sensor and that is also a big advantage. As it allows different cameras to be used depending on the situation and still easily match them in post. It wouldn't be hard to use the FX3 as car cams as an example and the FX6 out in the open when there is more space.
There's a lot to like in the FX3.
I switched from Sony to Canon about 4 years ago. Oh no, I might be switching back...😆 Awesome review!
Sony Fx 3 ❤️ wow cinéma camera
Thank you Mark ❤️🙏🙏🙏
Mark, thanks so much for another vid of excellence! 🙏🏼💛
Good stuff, man! Nice to see that Sony added the ability to timecode jam in their firmware update recently (via an additional cable), but what I wish it had is flat 24fps as well as shutter angle (and perhaps C4K)! Otherwise a solid little cam!
AWESOME review. Thanks for the points on sensor, I learned something! Amazing shots as always. Thanks for all the stellar info
I use my a7 eyepiece for video all the time. It's essential when shooting on a bright day. DIsappointing to be honest.
For Doc stuff this is pretty sick little camera, just weird it doesn't have shutter angle and 24p.
I know, those are a bummer. But easily changed with firmware
@@markbone yeh hope so that would be a huge selling point over standard a7siii tho the handle is a big addition since it's expensive anyway
those sad moments between the videos :) are just EPIC haha keep killing it man ;) so close to 100k :D
Planning to upgrade hopefully next year coming from a7siii. Thank you for this vid Mark.
Ahhhh that John Givez track I see you 👀
I like how you dont hav ur face in the cam the entire freaking time in your nice safe studio and actually show real world work and results...nice
Thanks for this, Mark. I just made my first video using the FX3 and really enjoyed it.
Hey Mark, 3.5 input on the xlr handle can be fed a time code signal from a tentacle on two of the FX3’s cameras audio tracks and the XLR Chanel’s would still be available for a nice short phantom shotgun mic like the deity SMic2S or Sennheiser avx receivers
Yeah, it just means extra plug-ins in premiere no? It gets tricky when you’re working with multiple post production houses on bigger projects
*Mark, fantastic review, brother, and your footage is amazing as always!! Much Love* ☮️
Dream Junkies were a dope group. Thanks for the reminder!
Video Cinema Camera First? I’m thinking it’s video-centric, 10 bit 422 raw,, A7S3 with a few 1/4-20 holes and a grey paint job. More like a stripped down budget FX-6, and “Bob’s your uncle?” B-roll camera, C- Camera, or pickup shots, might be okay for vlogging?
Shooting 24fps handheld , run and gun style chose :
The Fx6 with a camera heavy enough to eliminate camera shakes ??????? or
The FX3 with IBIS ?????????
MY BRAIN HURTS>!?!
@@markbone 😆 forget about it . Cool video btw
Thinking about it tho. I'd rather have ND than image stabilisation....
What picture profile did you shoot this in bro? Or was it RAW? I know you usually shoot S-log but I thought that base ISO was 640. Thanks
Great and detailed review BUT you seem to have forgotten to SONY kind of already released this camera ... they called it to A7S3. They added a fan (a good thing) , removed the EVF... and saying “send me more money”. :)
Daaaaaaang! Also 2 minutes earlier than the Sony Announcement.
Just got it! It has a third audio option via trs by the other xlr inputs.
The John Givez track choice was very good.
havent seen it in the comments but i'm super late, & you probably know this by now, the record button to the front for your left hand
Had no idea Owen Wilson was doing gear reviews. Awesome job Owen (Mark)! ;)
Great review. And great footage. If that boxer can act at least okay, do a low budget feature about a boxer.
This is a tempting little monster. Gunna have to look at other reviews to get an idea on the stills in low light, but if this is comparable to the A7siii, I might go for this over that. I also like the idea of it being a vlogging camera and something very low profile for when I am in public and don't want to attract a load of attention with my fx9. But again, my next two purchases are putting a drone as priority and then a stills camera that is good in lowlight.
Check out Gerald Undones video on this camera it will have all the information you're after
Yo I listen to "I Got the Juice" regularly. Didn't expect to hear it in one of your videos though.
I've really enjoyed following your channel the last ~6 months!
Classic! 2016 represent!
Finally a video that doesn’t bring the a7s3
That was amazing, I did test the A7SIII but still confused why would Sony call this a cine camera? at least wish they add Raw option or built-in Nd filter !!
Thanks Mark for a good review.
So good to get a review from you
it is not abut specks It is all abut crating film
Thanks
Damn, those shots are 🔥 dude!
really wish it had built in ND filter 😪
It's not possible in the style of their mirrorless bodies, the only way blackmagic get away with it in a camera so small is because its not an electronic variable ND and their cameras are actually built around cinema ergonomics, Sony will never have that unless they redesigned the entire body. The only reason they made this camera is for more marketing.
@@RavenwolfPictures20 as i understand, they can't put ibis and ND at the same time.
@@jealano9172 Yep that's true as well
Couldn’t you use a tenticalsync in the audio input?
Yes in the 3.5 Jack on the handle , xlrs still available as it records 4 audio channels , 3.5 on the body as well
Great for video journalism and flying under the radar
It’s very interesting indeed. Loved the video
Hey man just scored one of these cameras for work my usual work horse is the canon c200 and have loved it .
Just getting my head around the menus is full on would love to see some kind of vid of how you set you’re one up for shooting run and gun
I’m new to small cameras
🔥🔥🔥 love that Mark bone footage!!
Mark! Love the b-roll short! Can I ask which lenses you used to create this piece? Cheers!
Kinda funny how every filmmaking TH-camr in Canada except for Peter McKinnon all uploaded at the exact same time today for the exact same camera 😂
Awesome video as always Mark, I've been really keen on getting into the cinema camera space away from typical mirrorless bodies. I was really considering the BMPCC 6K for a while, then this came out so .... 😭😭
unless you mostly shoot Doc and Videography work, skip this and get the PK6K. Much more filmic look and better skin tones. And built in NDs. And it's still cheaper lol. I feel some of these creators got paid to say what they said to promote Sony. Don't get me wrong, I like Sony a lot and shoot on the A7s and FS7 quite a bit. But this is just an A7siii repackaged a bit. Just changing the name to cinema camera and adding a top handle doesn't make it one. If you wanna get good at commercial/music video/narrative work, get a Pocket 6K or wait til you can afford the FX6. At least, that's what I'll be doing.
No shutter angle or DCI SMH
what about exposure tools ?
Dream Junkies on the Track LETS GO!!!!
Great review. Since I'm still waiting for the fx6 to ship (damn you pesky backorders!), I'll probably wait a year or so and pick this up used as a B-cam. I like the fact that Sony made a camera with a small form factor that you can use in normally awkward places. I'd feel more comfortable running with this camera than with a heavier fx6... that is, if they ever ship it to me! (Naw, I'm not bitter at all at the 2+ months I've waited. Not in the least bit.)
The footage is only okay. Nothing wow about the camera. I also like bigger builds for cinema cameras because they help with the shakiness and adds a little weight to help. But if you don't have a cinema camera and this is an introduction maybe it's the way to go also if you don't have a sonya7siii. But to me I would say keep the sony a7siii and get a Sony FX6.
Epic my dude.
Dope video as always. I always enjoy your perspective on camera systems. Also respect for the dream junkies track!
Side note I hear there is a camera manufacturer that has really nice 5 inch screens on the back of there cameras...just saying lol
i'll be honest, i dont see much upside to this opposed to the a7siii or black magic 6k pro. fantastic review though brother
Julian drops his left hand. A good counter puncher would clean up with a right hook.
Great video, i was about to get the A7 S 3 but this has more.
An interesting camera, but Sony slightly missed the mark. Could've been a home run. [Maybe the FX3 II will nail it] Including IBIS over Internal ND (electronic) as all other "Cinema Line" cameras have was a mistake. This camera will often end up on gimbals where that ND would've been a big deal,, and Gimbal work is a big reason for FX9/FX6 owners to purchase one as a B cam. Additionally, the lack of viewfinder and the lack of SDI, with no option to add an EVF besides a monitor.. makes it a very questionable choice over the A7SIII.
Sony seems to have hit a fricking gold mine with this sensor. They've already shoved it into 3 cameras.
Reminds me of the OG Alexa sensor that they used in almost all their cameras... I think they are still using the og sensor. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
Dope !!! Loved the footage 🥳
Everyone needs to start complain about no shutter angle option and no true 24p so they at least add it in firmware. I would say 4K DCI also, but I dont think they can add that now(?).
I REALLY wanted shutter angle! Cool camera, but as an a7siii owner I’ll pass. A1 on the other hand? 🤔