It's a bit dark but at 36:00, exactly in the middle of the Apennine Tunnel, you might see the "Stazione Precedenze". It was a real station, equipped with eight simple switches, two English switches, four protective trunks and two shelter tracks for trains that gave way (Precedenze means precedence). Until 1965 the local trains would even stop here and the locals were using a very long stairway to reach the surface (1900 steps, 1 hour walk time!). Now the switches are automate and the shelter tracks are abandoned, but the "Stazione Precedenze" sign should still be visible and illuminated, at least it was last time I passed through the tunnel as a passanger (some years ago). They even told me that the bell of the station is still sounding before a train passes, to alert maintenance personnel. I tried to link a page on this comment with the history and pictures of the tunnel and it's station but it was discarded by TH-cam. If you want to read more write me and I'll give you the link.
So this was something like planned Porta Alpina on the Gotthard Base Tunnel. Access routes are visible on the openstreetmap, I assume they are still used for maintenance access or evacuation. Thank You for this info !!!
Questo video è uno dei più belli in assoluto, linea storica aperta negli anni '30, dove correva l'ETR 220, costruito appena prima della seconda guerra mondiale, che già allora in 5 ore e mezza collegava Roma e Milano. Purtroppo Questa linea ha un brutto ricordo nella memoria degli Italiani, la strage terroristica nel 1974 del treno rapido 904 ITALICUS, all'uscita della galleria a San Benedetto val di Sambro, una pagina nera dei trasporti in Italia. Grazie davvero ❤❤ Rispondi
@luigibrunomanzini253 Thank you very much for your comment. It is a great and important line with amazing infrastructure, considering the year of the construction.
In this base tunnel, there are an ancient passenger station named "precedenze". It Was at the exact middle of the tunnel. When ,in the 50', was active, passengers must do around 900 steps to arrive under at the station. Today, in video, if you see good, you can see something strange in the middle of tunnel and by the train to. I passed here some times and I saw.
Riprese ottime, come al solito ! Ho avuto modo di constatare, sull'Appenino, tratte o sezioni di linea molto lunghe con relativi preavvisi: penso che sia voluto un ben maggiore distanziamento dei convogli come avevo già visto sulla nuova Pontebbana ! Grazie a Voi per il tutto !
Encore une excellente vidéo, de la ligne classique Bologne-Florence. Jusqu'à Prato les vitesses ne sont pas élevées, mais ensuite le train fait une belle pointe à 171 km/h, juste avant l'arrivée à Florence. A noter qu'il s'agit de la gare de Rifredi.
Note: North Entrance of Appennine Tunnel min:31 In the night between 03/04 August 1974 a bomb placed inside a carriage of the Rome-Munich Express train exploded inside the tunnel causing the death of 12 people and the wounding of 48 others. Luckily the driver managed to bring the train at the San Benedetto val di Sambro station, thus making rescue operations less complex
@@RailRelaxationIn the exact same place on 23rd December 1984 another bomb went off aboard the train number 904 from Naples to Milan, killing 16 people and wounding 267. The killers acted probably on order of the Mafia boss Totò Riina.
Il tratto quasi "scomparso", ad eccezione delle relazioni locali e gli ormai pochi Intercity, soppiantato dalla tratta AV che in mezz'ora collega i due capoluoghi. Ma qui si fa la storia...La Grande Galleria dell'Appennino, uno dei nostri patrimoni, ripresa per intero (anche su un altro canale), ma qui senza troppi segnali di rallentamento, ad eccezione della parte centrale e pochi metri prima della stazione di Vernio, e la velocità sempre quasi costante tra i 110 e 120 km/h . ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@serthe2007 Bom dia Sérgio! Tudo bem. E você? Estou feliz que os meus videos estão fazendo sucesso no Brasil e que as pessoas possam ver as viajens de trem daqui da Europa. Tenha um ótimo dia!
Very nice video. Thank You. I think the on-board SCMT equipment had some malfunction. I can't explain all the emergency braking. As it was leaving Bologna, it may be that the engineer did not pre recognize a code absence before the switch, but the others? For Italian followers: Credo che l'apparecchiatura di bordo SCMT avesse qualche malfunzionamento. Non mi spiego tutte quelle frenate d'emergenza. Mentre stava uscendo da Bologna, può darsi che il macchinista non abbia pre riconosciuto un'assenza codice prima dello scambio, ma le altre?
Bonjour, MERCI inifniment pour cette très belle vidéo, comme toutes les autres. Je prends énormément de plaisir à les regarder. Serait-il possible d'avoir prochainement la vidéo de la ligne Vintimille (Ventimiglia)-Savona-Genova ? Je n'arrive pas à avoir de vidéo récente de cette ligne, la dernière remonte à plus de 20 ans. Merci beaucoup et bonne soirée
@anthonygouthez6982 You are welcome. I would like to film that line too. For now, I do not have plans to go there, but in the future I will certainly go and film it.
Altro bellissimo video come sempre...complimenti...aspettiamo altre riprese sulle linee italiane ...spero presto la Roma Ancona e la linea adriatica ma anche la Avezzano Pescara spero sia in programma 😊
In uscita da Bologna il mancato prericonoscimento (SCMT) ha causato l'arresto del treno. Una nota: quando in testa treno si trova un semipilota potresti citare il locomotore in spinta. Bellissime riprese... complimenti.
... purtroppo sino all'avvento dell'AV (avversata da tanta miopia) era la principale linea di collegamento tra Nord e Sud Italia, come si vede dal filmato, se le velocità indicate sono corrette, raramente si son superati i 120 Km/h.
Hello, thank you for another great ride. For a change, not via the high-speed line towards Florence, but via the "old line". I didn't even know that an 18-kilometre-long tunnel was also carried out there. Best regards and see you next time. 🙋🏼♂️
The line is operated under the "Automatic electrical block with coded current" regime. There was evidently a slower train, such as a freight train, occupying the section (block) immediately downstream. Years ago, inside the "Grande Galleria dell'Appennino" there was the famous station called "PRECEDENZE" (precedence) which was connected to the town of Ca' di Landino via a staircase of over a thousand steps and two inclined lifts. It now functions as a "Communication Post" between the odd track and the even track and is remotely controlled by the DCO (Central Operations Manager).
NB: on this line the automatic electrical lockout is not linked, which means that each intermediate lockout signal (table P which stands for "Permissive") is preceded by an isolated warning signal, i.e. not coupled with the previous one automatic electric lock signal. This explains why the signal in the tunnel went directly from red to green, without first going to yellow, as happens with the automatic chained electrical block.
@fv7145 Thank you for the compliments. Probably it is, but I was not sure, thats why I did not put the indication on the video. I would appreciate If anyone that knows the line well can help me out with this one.
Great video al always. You didn't indicate the category of the train, but I assume that it was a long distance intercity which doesn't enter to Firenze SMN. I have a bunch of questions for those who know the line better (I'm only an occasional traveler in Italy): before the construction of the HS line the speeds were considerably higher (it still looks in good condition and according to the signs the line is still enabled for 175-180 km/h in tunnels) and now the train runs for most of the time at around 110 km/h except for a few moments near Calenzano. Then, I think that Italy must have a serious problem with the system of signalling, as the train (I would expect) with priority is often slowed down or even stopped (also right after departing Bologna). Or is it maybe the consequence of poorly coordinated timetables which let the slower train block the faster one behind it? Or are they deliberately slowing down the trains on this line to convince the passengers that they should take a Freccia?
The line is currently being completely refurbished, tunnels are being enlarged and the roadbed is being lowered in order to make the line compatible with the P/C 80 (high cube) loading gauge. Also, new signalling and power supply will be installed. I think that currently there might be a generalized speed restriction because of this work even if the line still has an official top speed of 175-180 km/h (at least in some sections). The opening of the high-speed line meant that long-distance trains on the old Direttissima could be replaced by much needed local or semi-local trains that before couldn't be squeezed in because the line was absolutely full, although some Intercity trains and most night trains still pass through it. Given that local trains too normally run at up to 160 km/h I don't think there isn't any deliberate "political" speed reduction besides restrictions due to engineering works. As for the train being stopped, you may notice that it happens quite abruptly and not necessarily in front of a signal, in fact I have the impression that such stops are triggered by the train protection system that for some reason misses some track beacon, I wonder if it was that specific train that was faulty. Poor timetable coordination might happen, especially if there is some traffic disruption and/or a train is late, but in that case you would see lots of yellow and red lights, not automatic brake applications...
Nice video but there is an error. The tracks for the Pisa direction line are immediately after Firenze Castello on the right and not on the left. The two tracks on the left that then pass over the tracks, used exclusively by high-speed trains to and from Bologna, which allow you to bypass the normal line allowing transit to tracks 3 and 4 of Firenze Rifredi for High speed trains to arrive at Firenze Santa Maria Novella without cutting the road to the trains that skip Santa Maria Novella station
@@RailRelaxation I add that that beetween Firenze Castello and Firenze Rifredi there will be the future entrance for the new underground station of Florence that will be used only High speed train (like Bologna Centrale) and the underground line will come out near the station Firenze Campo Marte allowing to the High Speed Trains to avoid change direction in Santa Maria Novella Station reducing much travel time. Some months ago are restarted the works of construction that few yers ago are stopped for bureaucratic problems.
Great video of a great line. By the way: I have the video of the same line, but performed by the glorious Pendolino ETR450, he run the same distance in 50 minutes!
@user-cr2wx5uz7o I have some French lines on my computer, waiting to be produced.....and I would love to film in Portugal....there are so many interesting lines around...
Inside the long Apennine tunnel, and only in it, there are in the recesses on both sides of the line little blue lights, as if they were a kind of warning lights. Does someone know what they could be?
They indicate the position of emergency lighting push buttons. They used to be required only in longer tunnels, now they are slowly being installed on shorter ones too.
Can anyone tell me why the train was brought to a halt right at the Tuscany/Emilia Romagna border in the tunnel. I may have seen some yellow coloured signals but no red ones. How did the driver know to resume? The second halt near the south entrance was obvious due to the red danger signal.
The one in the middle of the tunnel seems to be an automatic brake application started by the on-board ATC/PTC system. The line is being thoroughly refurbished and I'm wondering if there was some mismatch in the data transmitted to the train or if it missed some balise/transponder, maybe a temporary one meant to enforce some speed restriction. Either that or possibly some fault on the train. As far as I know they are pretty sensitive and a minor misalignment could be enough to trigger a brake application. If that's the case, the driver has to go through some steps and then can resume on their own.
Terrific filming ♥ Your editing could be better: the flashing info like how long a tunnel is, has much too big fonts and is way too bright and stays on for much too long, it is extremely distracting especially going into those very long tunnels. Same distraction with the speedometer, it also is too big and too bright, they all take away from enjoying the spectacular ride. I suggest you consider making the info twice as small and 50% dimmer. ♥
@almegna1 Because the speedometer is based on the GPS data which is, especially in long tunnels like this one, not always accurate. Please consider this. I always put that info in the description of the video.
Ai miei tempi, lungo le linee in cui era presente il regime del BAcc, prima di superare un segnale con la conferma di riduzione di velocità (Rosso/Verde, Rosso/Giallo e simili) occorreva premere il pulsante del prericonoscimento dell' AC
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The most striking thing about these Italian cab-rides is how empty the platforms are. Station after station; and they're completely deserted. If this is any guide to the number of passengers, then the railways must be operating at an enormous loss. It only goes to show that you can have wonderful infrastructure, but if it doesn't provide the journeys that people need to make, then nobody will use it.
@margaretjones777 Actually I usually film the videos during the weekends and public holidays and normally there is less people using the trains. Looking at the numbers, lots of people in Italy use trains to commute and also to travel longer distances, with the high speed lines between big cities.
Ridership is actually quite high, even higher than before the pandemic. This train probably ran quite close behind some local service that may have picked up most passengers. Also, since this is a non-stopping service people wouldn't be there just to watch it. Finally, that line is being thoroughly refurbished and there have been quite some service cancellations/substitutions that may have caused a temporary loss of ridership. That said, both Trenitalia and RFI (the network manager) are both making a quite nice net profit so...
@@gerri_c I was so intrigued by your reply that I have researched the matter further and was unsurprised to discover that the situation is more complicated. And so (deep breath)... Trenitalia is a partially privatized subsidiary of Italian Railways (FSI), created in 2000, which functions as a "train operating company" in much the same way as the UK rail franchisees - indeed it even owns 30% of the "Avanti West Coast" UK rail franchise, from which it generates a small proportion of its profits. In 2022 Trenitalia made a profit of 120 million Euros, which sounds great until you realize that this is only a very small part of the picture. As in Britain, so in Italy the profitability of franchisees is determined, less by the performance of the company, than by the "tariff" which they pay in order to access the national rail infrastructure. In Italy the government has set this tariff at a generously low level, partly to encourage cheap fares (and thereby increase rail usage) and partly also to provide a healthy return for Trenitalia's shareholders. As I'm sure you will appreciate, the financial performance of Trenitalia tells us little about the true cost of running Italy's rail network because most of this has been shouldered by country's taxpayers. And this is where the sums start to get really nasty. A Brussels report, commissioned in 2021, concluded that Italy's railways had cost Italian taxpayers more than 480 billion (that's 480,000,000,000) Euros since Italy joined the Euro in 1993, a truly staggering sum that accounts for almost 20% of Italy's National Debt, itself an eye-watering 160% of GDP, one of the highest in the developed world, and vastly worse than the situation in other major European economies. Now, we can argue as to whether this expenditure has been justified, but there can be no dispute that Italy's debt mountain has had a crippling effect on the prosperity of its citizens. To put this in perspective; since 1993 Italy has grown by 11%, France and Germany by more than 35%, the UK and Spain by more than 45%, the USA and Canada by more than 50%, and Australia by more than 55%. So, yes, Trenitalia is profitable, but the true cost of Italy's railways has been horrific. Those empty platforms are indeed telling us something.
@@margaretjones777 While the data you reported are correct, let me say they are totally unrelated each other and not able to support the theory that trains in Italy are travelling empty based on an random video. In addition to what Geeric above already explained, let's not forget that between the 80 km of rail between Bologna and Firenze there are basically just few mountain villages with a small population, for instance arriving near Firenze suburb (Sesto Fiorentino) you can notice passengers boarding a local train. Anyway let's stick on numbers just click on google "Railway passengers transport statistic" of Eurostat and look at year 2019 as latest reliable data, Italy is the 3rd country as number of passengers/km of rails after France and Germany, Spain follows with a much lower number end then all other countries. Same numbers you can find in Wikipedia where UK is between Germany and Italy. Just have a train trip in Italy either IC or on local train during peak hour and you realize that problem in Italy are not the empty stations.
You make a fair point. In fact I know from personal experience that some trains in Italy are extremely busy. I guess my real argument concerns the loss-making nature of rail travel in general, and the broader question of how much it is reasonable for a country to subsidize its railways. I would argue that Italy has gone too far down this route, and the EU seems to agree with me.
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It's a bit dark but at 36:00, exactly in the middle of the Apennine Tunnel, you might see the "Stazione Precedenze".
It was a real station, equipped with eight simple switches, two English switches, four protective trunks and two shelter tracks for trains that gave way (Precedenze means precedence).
Until 1965 the local trains would even stop here and the locals were using a very long stairway to reach the surface (1900 steps, 1 hour walk time!).
Now the switches are automate and the shelter tracks are abandoned, but the "Stazione Precedenze" sign should still be visible and illuminated, at least it was last time I passed through the tunnel as a passanger (some years ago). They even told me that the
bell of the station is still sounding before a train passes, to alert maintenance personnel.
I tried to link a page on this comment with the history and pictures of the tunnel and it's station but it was discarded by TH-cam. If you want to read more write me and I'll give you the link.
@martinomarcello Thank you for all this information. It is very interesting.
So this was something like planned Porta Alpina on the Gotthard Base Tunnel. Access routes are visible on the openstreetmap, I assume they are still used for maintenance access or evacuation. Thank You for this info !!!
Ahah non avevo letto il tuo messaggio e sopra ho scritto qualcosa di simile. Scusa.
what rahul , what bit dark ? tunnel u see
Qualcuno ha mai visto biglietti da o per PRECEDENZE? Grazie ancora per la collaborazione
Questo video è uno dei più belli in assoluto, linea storica aperta negli anni '30, dove correva l'ETR 220, costruito appena prima della seconda guerra mondiale, che già allora in 5 ore e mezza collegava Roma e Milano. Purtroppo Questa linea ha un brutto ricordo nella memoria degli Italiani, la strage terroristica nel 1974 del treno rapido 904 ITALICUS, all'uscita della galleria a San Benedetto val di Sambro, una pagina nera dei trasporti in Italia.
Grazie davvero ❤❤
Rispondi
@luigibrunomanzini253 Thank you very much for your comment. It is a great and important line with amazing infrastructure, considering the year of the construction.
anche l'ITALICUS Roma-Monaco,alla stazione di San Benedetto Val di Sambro c'è un rottame che fa da monumento commemorativo
L'ETR 220 non è stato costruito prima della seconda guerra mondiale, quello era il 200. Il 220 è degli anni 60
In this base tunnel, there are an ancient passenger station named "precedenze". It Was at the exact middle of the tunnel. When ,in the 50', was active, passengers must do around 900 steps to arrive under at the station. Today, in video, if you see good, you can see something strange in the middle of tunnel and by the train to. I passed here some times and I saw.
@marcochiani-zf7kn Thanks.
You can see Precedenze station at exactly 36:00
Riprese ottime, come al solito ! Ho avuto modo di constatare, sull'Appenino, tratte o sezioni di linea molto lunghe con relativi preavvisi: penso che sia voluto un ben maggiore distanziamento dei convogli come avevo già visto sulla nuova Pontebbana ! Grazie a Voi per il tutto !
@pierluiginistri8042 Thank you very much. I am glad that you enjoyed it.
Grazie per aver pubblicato questa linea; bella, complimenti!
Buona giornata e buona Domenica.
Ciao.
@DavideZerillo You are very welcome. Wishing you a great Sunday too.
I've been countless times on this train, beautiful landscape
@dantosisch5140 I agree. I love those hills there.
Complimenti per le riprese.
Grazie.
Sei un professionista.
@antoniomastrone6480 Grazie mille!
Veramente!
@fabiocattaneo5104 Gracie!
Vidéo remarquable pour une ligne remarquable. Merci pour cette nouvelle réalisation.
@laurentpuig4218 You are welcome. Thank you for your kind comment.
Beautiful video
@user-jx2ut6pz9l Thank you! Cheers!
La Direttissima! Una linea storica e molto spettacolare!!! Grazie mille dell'interessantissimo video! 😀
@paolodalbono 😀 You are welcome.
Intelligenza e operosità. Uno splendido abbinamento.
@ml-ps6ce 😊
Encore une excellente vidéo, de la ligne classique Bologne-Florence. Jusqu'à Prato les vitesses ne sont pas élevées, mais ensuite le train fait une belle pointe à 171 km/h, juste avant l'arrivée à Florence. A noter qu'il s'agit de la gare de Rifredi.
@patrickp8883 Thank you.
Very nice Video. Thank you for Uploading!
Wow, the best ever! Great video resolution!!!! TOP
@claudio6493 Thank you! Glad you like it!
Note: North Entrance of Appennine Tunnel min:31
In the night between 03/04 August 1974 a bomb placed inside a carriage of the Rome-Munich Express train exploded inside the tunnel causing the death of 12 people and the wounding of 48 others. Luckily the driver managed to bring the train at the San Benedetto val di Sambro station, thus making rescue operations less complex
@domenicobecchio6459 Thank you for that information.
La stage dell'ITALICUS 😢
@@RailRelaxationIn the exact same place on 23rd December 1984 another bomb went off aboard the train number 904 from Naples to Milan, killing 16 people and wounding 267. The killers acted probably on order of the Mafia boss Totò Riina.
@@luigibrunomanzini253 anche lo scoppio della bomba ''camorrista'' del R904 Napoli-Milano
Beautiful video ❤❤❤❤
@EntertainmentWorldz Thank you 🤗
I read the notice nd I'm watching the video. Thank you and good Saturday
@stefanobazzoffia1496 Thank you. Same to you!
Voce merece ganhar o trofeu de melhor cabride mais um video lindo sou apaixonada por voce obrigada
@mariahelenadasgracas3507 Obrigado.
Great site with perfect video,s
Greetings from Netherlands
Glad you enjoyed it! It is a pleasure to have you here, I am planning to go to Nederland to film there too.
loved all the tunnels!
@dlevoy Great. There are many on that line...
I'm also a train driver in Pakistan railway
Great to see ur country by a cabride.
Make more such an entertaining videos ❤
@pakrailofficial1062 Great. Welcome to the channel. I will make more of them. have a nice day!
I would like a cab ride between Rawalpindi and Landi Kotal,or a Quetta-Zahedan
Il tratto quasi "scomparso", ad eccezione delle relazioni locali e gli ormai pochi Intercity, soppiantato dalla tratta AV che in mezz'ora collega i due capoluoghi. Ma qui si fa la storia...La Grande Galleria dell'Appennino, uno dei nostri patrimoni, ripresa per intero (anche su un altro canale), ma qui senza troppi segnali di rallentamento, ad eccezione della parte centrale e pochi metri prima della stazione di Vernio, e la velocità sempre quasi costante tra i 110 e 120 km/h . ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@cirillomichele9281 Thank you for your comment. I find that tunnel really great, especially considering the year of construction...
Bellissimo, video!. Questa tratta l'ho fatta 3 anni fa, con l'IC Bologna C.-Napoli C. Sono sceso a Firenze R. ed è tutto vero, lo posso confermare.
@ponyvetta4253 Nice. Thank you for confirming. 😀
Boa Noite!!! Meu amigo, Tudo bem ??? mais um excelente video. Obrigado por publicar mais essa linda viagem. um abraço. Sergio SP Brasil
@serthe2007 Bom dia Sérgio! Tudo bem. E você? Estou feliz que os meus videos estão fazendo sucesso no Brasil e que as pessoas possam ver as viajens de trem daqui da Europa. Tenha um ótimo dia!
Beautiful video, as always!! Un saluto da Bologna😁
@antonellocolavecchio2454 Great. Thank you and greetings to Bologna from Ljubljana, Slovenia.
Very nice video. Thank You. I think the on-board SCMT equipment had some malfunction. I can't explain all the emergency braking. As it was leaving Bologna, it may be that the engineer did not pre recognize a code absence before the switch, but the others?
For Italian followers: Credo che l'apparecchiatura di bordo SCMT avesse qualche malfunzionamento. Non mi spiego tutte quelle frenate d'emergenza. Mentre stava uscendo da Bologna, può darsi che il macchinista non abbia pre riconosciuto un'assenza codice prima dello scambio, ma le altre?
@silvioferrero8078 I am not sure what was happening and why the breaking.
Stupendo 😍 riusciresti a fare anche um Cab Ride sulla Bologna-Rimini con magari un regionale?
@Ale_5 I do not know when, but I will put it on my list.
Bellissimo video complimenti fantastico
@ILGigi-kx9qz Grazie!
Grazie per questo video e per tutti le info indicati. Interessante e bellissimo "cab ride". Nonostante i numerosi traforo, alcuni bei paesaggi visti.
@javierguidounicaud6621 you are welcome. I am glad that you liked it.
Супер 👑 поездка 😎 😍 🤩 😋
@user-be8wr4jj1q I am glad that you liked it.
Bonjour, MERCI inifniment pour cette très belle vidéo, comme toutes les autres. Je prends énormément de plaisir à les regarder. Serait-il possible d'avoir prochainement la vidéo de la ligne Vintimille (Ventimiglia)-Savona-Genova ? Je n'arrive pas à avoir de vidéo récente de cette ligne, la dernière remonte à plus de 20 ans. Merci beaucoup et bonne soirée
@anthonygouthez6982 You are welcome. I would like to film that line too. For now, I do not have plans to go there, but in the future I will certainly go and film it.
@@RailRelaxation Thanks you for your answer ! I wish you the best !!! Its always very good watching your videos !!
@anthonygouthez6982 Thank you!
Ein sehr gutes video danke
@hansrichardnohrer2834 You are welcome.
Muito bom é só por o fone no ouvido apagar as luzes e viajar ouvindo o barulho do trem sensacional 😊
@marcosmachado3056 Exatamente! Tenha um ótimo fim de semana!
Altro bellissimo video come sempre...complimenti...aspettiamo altre riprese sulle linee italiane ...spero presto la Roma Ancona e la linea adriatica ma anche la Avezzano Pescara spero sia in programma 😊
@antonellocolavecchio2454 I have all of them on my bucket list, I am not sure yet when will go back to Italy.
Bravo. Beautiful video
@cordialifetecchie Thank you! Cheers!
That's amazing ❤
@pakrailofficial1062 Thank you.
In uscita da Bologna il mancato prericonoscimento (SCMT) ha causato l'arresto del treno. Una nota: quando in testa treno si trova un semipilota potresti citare il locomotore in spinta. Bellissime riprese... complimenti.
@stefanogiusti5466 Thank you for your comment.
... purtroppo sino all'avvento dell'AV (avversata da tanta miopia) era la principale linea di collegamento tra Nord e Sud Italia, come si vede dal filmato, se le velocità indicate sono corrette, raramente si son superati i 120 Km/h.
Hello, thank you for another great ride. For a change, not via the high-speed line towards Florence, but via the "old line". I didn't even know that an 18-kilometre-long tunnel was also carried out there. Best regards and see you next time. 🙋🏼♂️
@AG-il7hn Thank you for your comment. I found that line really beautiful.
Question: why did the train stop a couple of times inside the Apennine Base Tunnel?
I don't know exactly, but I imagine that is was stopped by the controller, you can see the red light in the tunnel.
@@RailRelaxation The line is used by many fright trains. They must reach the next station in order to be overtaked.
@fredpalmer260 Thank you for your answer.
The line is operated under the "Automatic electrical block with coded current" regime. There was evidently a slower train, such as a freight train, occupying the section (block) immediately downstream. Years ago, inside the "Grande Galleria dell'Appennino" there was the famous station called "PRECEDENZE" (precedence) which was connected to the town of Ca' di Landino via a staircase of over a thousand steps and two inclined lifts. It now functions as a "Communication Post" between the odd track and the even track and is remotely controlled by the DCO (Central Operations Manager).
NB: on this line the automatic electrical lockout is not linked, which means that each intermediate lockout signal (table P which stands for "Permissive") is preceded by an isolated warning signal, i.e. not coupled with the previous one automatic electric lock signal. This explains why the signal in the tunnel went directly from red to green, without first going to yellow, as happens with the automatic chained electrical block.
Bellissimo come sempre. Una domanda: la stazione Precedenze è quella che si vede al km 48?
@fv7145 Thank you for the compliments. Probably it is, but I was not sure, thats why I did not put the indication on the video. I would appreciate If anyone that knows the line well can help me out with this one.
@@RailRelaxation Ok! 👍
Dovrebbe essere al kilometro 46+848
@pieromarkuzovich7747 Grazie.
@@diegopettini6101 Thanks.
Mais uma belíssima viagem.
@joaosantanna7552 Obrigado. Desejo lhe uma boa semana!
What a great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Muy buen video !!!!!
@rikardlalic7275 Gracias!
Foarte frumos.
@user-gy8ih4ys5r Thank you.
Nice videos
Thanks.
@@RailRelaxation so very good
Great video al always. You didn't indicate the category of the train, but I assume that it was a long distance intercity which doesn't enter to Firenze SMN. I have a bunch of questions for those who know the line better (I'm only an occasional traveler in Italy): before the construction of the HS line the speeds were considerably higher (it still looks in good condition and according to the signs the line is still enabled for 175-180 km/h in tunnels) and now the train runs for most of the time at around 110 km/h except for a few moments near Calenzano. Then, I think that Italy must have a serious problem with the system of signalling, as the train (I would expect) with priority is often slowed down or even stopped (also right after departing Bologna). Or is it maybe the consequence of poorly coordinated timetables which let the slower train block the faster one behind it? Or are they deliberately slowing down the trains on this line to convince the passengers that they should take a Freccia?
@maxart3392 Thank you for your comment. I am sure there are a lot of viewers that know line better than me that can respond to you.
The line is currently being completely refurbished, tunnels are being enlarged and the roadbed is being lowered in order to make the line compatible with the P/C 80 (high cube) loading gauge. Also, new signalling and power supply will be installed. I think that currently there might be a generalized speed restriction because of this work even if the line still has an official top speed of 175-180 km/h (at least in some sections). The opening of the high-speed line meant that long-distance trains on the old Direttissima could be replaced by much needed local or semi-local trains that before couldn't be squeezed in because the line was absolutely full, although some Intercity trains and most night trains still pass through it. Given that local trains too normally run at up to 160 km/h I don't think there isn't any deliberate "political" speed reduction besides restrictions due to engineering works. As for the train being stopped, you may notice that it happens quite abruptly and not necessarily in front of a signal, in fact I have the impression that such stops are triggered by the train protection system that for some reason misses some track beacon, I wonder if it was that specific train that was faulty. Poor timetable coordination might happen, especially if there is some traffic disruption and/or a train is late, but in that case you would see lots of yellow and red lights, not automatic brake applications...
@gerric.5824 Thank you for the explication.
Nice video but there is an error.
The tracks for the Pisa direction line are immediately after Firenze Castello on the right and not on the left.
The two tracks on the left that then pass over the tracks, used exclusively by high-speed trains to and from Bologna, which allow you to bypass the normal line allowing transit to tracks 3 and 4 of Firenze Rifredi for High speed trains to arrive at Firenze Santa Maria Novella without cutting the road to the trains that skip Santa Maria Novella station
@Superazzola Thank you very much for the explanation.
@@RailRelaxation I add that that beetween Firenze Castello and Firenze Rifredi there will be the future entrance for the new underground station of Florence that will be used only High speed train (like Bologna Centrale) and the underground line will come out near the station Firenze Campo Marte allowing to the High Speed Trains to avoid change direction in Santa Maria Novella Station reducing much travel time. Some months ago are restarted the works of construction that few yers ago are stopped for bureaucratic problems.
@Superazzola Thank you very much for all that valuable information. Reducing the travel time will be great.
Is entrance to future underground Rifredi is tunnel visible at 1:08:13 (immediately left)?
Great video of a great line. By the way: I have the video of the same line, but performed by the glorious Pendolino ETR450, he run the same distance in 50 minutes!
@fredpalmer260 Very nice!
Bellissime riprese bisogna fare anche sulla bologna ancona 😉
@angelosalfi6015 I have it on my to-do list..
Yet another great video,is there any chance of Portuguese, French ,Eastern European countries being featured
@user-cr2wx5uz7o I have some French lines on my computer, waiting to be produced.....and I would love to film in Portugal....there are so many interesting lines around...
Inside the long Apennine tunnel, and only in it, there are in the recesses on both sides of the line little blue lights, as if they were a kind of warning lights. Does someone know what they could be?
They indicate the position of emergency lighting push buttons. They used to be required only in longer tunnels, now they are slowly being installed on shorter ones too.
You have to do a video Bologna - Bari in three or four part in an intercity or a Frecciarossa.
@stefanobazzoffia1496 Good suggestion. Who knows....
Can anyone tell me why the train was brought to a halt right at the Tuscany/Emilia Romagna border in the tunnel. I may have seen some yellow coloured signals but no red ones. How did the driver know to resume? The second halt near the south entrance was obvious due to the red danger signal.
The one in the middle of the tunnel seems to be an automatic brake application started by the on-board ATC/PTC system. The line is being thoroughly refurbished and I'm wondering if there was some mismatch in the data transmitted to the train or if it missed some balise/transponder, maybe a temporary one meant to enforce some speed restriction. Either that or possibly some fault on the train. As far as I know they are pretty sensitive and a minor misalignment could be enough to trigger a brake application. If that's the case, the driver has to go through some steps and then can resume on their own.
Grandioso
@PancrazioMarasco-nd1jr Thank you!
Vamos dar o joinha👍 para fortalecer o canal..
@vlademirgadelha3831 Agradeço.
Qualcuno ha mai visto biglietti da o per PRECEDENZE? Grazie ancora per la collaborazione
@Luigi-uj5ml I read it was closed to passengers in the 1960s, quite a long time ago...
Terrific filming ♥
Your editing could be better: the flashing info like how long a tunnel is, has much too big fonts and is way too bright and stays on for much too long, it is extremely distracting especially going into those very long tunnels.
Same distraction with the speedometer, it also is too big and too bright, they all take away from enjoying the spectacular ride.
I suggest you consider making the info twice as small and 50% dimmer. ♥
@mintaka57 Thank you for your suggestion.
Ok.... my dad says if U could do : Turin- Aosta
Ancona- Roma...?!
Thks very much x the Good Job! 👍🏻👏🏼
@BeardyChild Thank you for the suggestions. I wish you and your dad a great weekend!
Ma se succede qualcosa a metà tunnel dell'Appennino, un guasto, un qualche cosa, ma che ti inventi?
@mauriziomascagna I am not sure. But there should be an emergency exits...
Come mai in galleria dell'Appennino ci sono uno stop e un rallentamento e il tachimetro in basso a sinistra segna sempre intorno agli 80 km/h?
@almegna1 Because the speedometer is based on the GPS data which is, especially in long tunnels like this one, not always accurate. Please consider this. I always put that info in the description of the video.
@@RailRelaxation thank you so much!
Napoli Cassino❤️
@christianesposito4176 Hello! Thank you for the suggestion.
come sempre video bellissimi, unica cosa sia nel video sia nella spiegazione avete scritto Bolongna verso il minuto 1:07:13
@liviobertoncini Thank you for that. I missed that spelling mistake. Sorry. Changed it in the timestamps in the description of the video.
La,galleria,del,Vernio
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Lunga,diciannove
Chilometri,teatro,di,
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@PancrazioMarasco-nd1jr 😊 nice one, agree.
1:08 La mia citta Prato
@18111980gabriele Very nice.
6:50 SCMT?
Ai miei tempi, lungo le linee in cui era presente il regime del BAcc, prima di superare un segnale con la conferma di riduzione di velocità (Rosso/Verde, Rosso/Giallo e simili) occorreva premere il pulsante del prericonoscimento dell' AC
Chi riprende questi video?
@MattiaBottazzo It is me.
GPS in tunnels does not work, so the readouts are unintelligible. That is normal.
@rikardlalic7275 True.
Puoi fare Milano-Verona sul regionale?
@XiaTrain Well noted.
@@RailRelaxation grazie
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@baptisteesclauze3566 Thank you. I am glad that you like the video and you enjoyed travelling with me along Bologna Florence line.
Chi fino a fatto il video del cab ride del frecciarossa 1000 Roma Milano??
Passeio de trem
@emanuelplayerbr8226 👍🏻
The most striking thing about these Italian cab-rides is how empty the platforms are. Station after station; and they're completely deserted. If this is any guide to the number of passengers, then the railways must be operating at an enormous loss. It only goes to show that you can have wonderful infrastructure, but if it doesn't provide the journeys that people need to make, then nobody will use it.
@margaretjones777 Actually I usually film the videos during the weekends and public holidays and normally there is less people using the trains. Looking at the numbers, lots of people in Italy use trains to commute and also to travel longer distances, with the high speed lines between big cities.
Ridership is actually quite high, even higher than before the pandemic. This train probably ran quite close behind some local service that may have picked up most passengers. Also, since this is a non-stopping service people wouldn't be there just to watch it. Finally, that line is being thoroughly refurbished and there have been quite some service cancellations/substitutions that may have caused a temporary loss of ridership. That said, both Trenitalia and RFI (the network manager) are both making a quite nice net profit so...
@@gerri_c I was so intrigued by your reply that I have researched the matter further and was unsurprised to discover that the situation is more complicated. And so (deep breath)...
Trenitalia is a partially privatized subsidiary of Italian Railways (FSI), created in 2000, which functions as a "train operating company" in much the same way as the UK rail franchisees - indeed it even owns 30% of the "Avanti West Coast" UK rail franchise, from which it generates a small proportion of its profits. In 2022 Trenitalia made a profit of 120 million Euros, which sounds great until you realize that this is only a very small part of the picture. As in Britain, so in Italy the profitability of franchisees is determined, less by the performance of the company, than by the "tariff" which they pay in order to access the national rail infrastructure. In Italy the government has set this tariff at a generously low level, partly to encourage cheap fares (and thereby increase rail usage) and partly also to provide a healthy return for Trenitalia's shareholders. As I'm sure you will appreciate, the financial performance of Trenitalia tells us little about the true cost of running Italy's rail network because most of this has been shouldered by country's taxpayers. And this is where the sums start to get really nasty.
A Brussels report, commissioned in 2021, concluded that Italy's railways had cost Italian taxpayers more than 480 billion (that's 480,000,000,000) Euros since Italy joined the Euro in 1993, a truly staggering sum that accounts for almost 20% of Italy's National Debt, itself an eye-watering 160% of GDP, one of the highest in the developed world, and vastly worse than the situation in other major European economies. Now, we can argue as to whether this expenditure has been justified, but there can be no dispute that Italy's debt mountain has had a crippling effect on the prosperity of its citizens. To put this in perspective; since 1993 Italy has grown by 11%, France and Germany by more than 35%, the UK and Spain by more than 45%, the USA and Canada by more than 50%, and Australia by more than 55%. So, yes, Trenitalia is profitable, but the true cost of Italy's railways has been horrific. Those empty platforms are indeed telling us something.
@@margaretjones777 While the data you reported are correct, let me say they are totally unrelated each other and not able to support the theory that trains in Italy are travelling empty based on an random video.
In addition to what Geeric above already explained, let's not forget that between the 80 km of rail between Bologna and Firenze there are basically just few mountain villages with a small population, for instance arriving near Firenze suburb (Sesto Fiorentino) you can notice passengers boarding a local train. Anyway let's stick on numbers just click on google "Railway passengers transport statistic" of Eurostat and look at year 2019 as latest reliable data, Italy is the 3rd country as number of passengers/km of rails after France and Germany, Spain follows with a much lower number end then all other countries. Same numbers you can find in Wikipedia where UK is between Germany and Italy. Just have a train trip in Italy either IC or on local train during peak hour and you realize that problem in Italy are not the empty stations.
You make a fair point. In fact I know from personal experience that some trains in Italy are extremely busy. I guess my real argument concerns the loss-making nature of rail travel in general, and the broader question of how much it is reasonable for a country to subsidize its railways. I would argue that Italy has gone too far down this route, and the EU seems to agree with me.
Ma quello che non capisco è: tutti questi idioti che scrivono con la vernice scritte incomprensibili sui muri che cosa ne ricavano?
Pensa a quelli che scrivono commenti su video di treni su TH-cam quanto ci ricavano 😂 due esercizi in futilità
il sadico piacere di deturpare
min. 1:03:04 is a E401 A
@emylstef3599 Thank you. I changed. it in the description of the video.
Bonjour, j'ai le plaisir de vous informer que j'ai procédé à un virement de 15 € sur votre compte, sous le nom de Philippe Dru (Philippe de Saint-Martin est un alias).
Votre chaîne est la meilleure de toutes les chaînes cabride, encore merci à vous.
Philippe de Saint-Martin ou Philippe 🌴 Dru), c'est la même personne.
@philippedesaint-martin4815 merci beaucoup. Thank you very much for your generous donation. It means a lot to me. It helps me to buy a necessary equipment to film and produce a high quality Cab Ride videos. I just returned from France and I have a few nice videos from South of France that will be published in a few weeks. I hope you will enjoy watching them.
@@RailRelaxationOui j'ai hâte de voir des vidéos tournées en France !
@@philippedesaint-martin4815 😊
Biglietti prego
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38:37/38:38 Steam train whistle! 🚂
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Nice video how are you doing
@adamblunsdon7784 Good, thank you. And you?
Caserta Foggia pls❤️
@christianesposito4176 I have to go back to Italy. There are so many lines that I still want to film.
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Also, your title, the name It's wrong
@adamblunsdon7784 I don't understand. What is wrong?
La,galleria,del,Vernio
La,mia,preferita
@PancrazioMarasco-nd1jr Great!
Bolongna?! 1:07:29
@jwslijm7278 Apology for the spelling mistake.
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Manca il nome del tunnel dopo Valle cebraia "I"
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