I want to support your channel and sub, but can you show the source to this, to flash an article that this hit the press and not link the source is disingenuous. Did this guy file suit is it in court, did the police higher ups apologize....a hundred questions?
@@codycampbell3723 I get all that Cody, I like this dudes perspective and he is asking for opinions and advice to grow his channel. I sub many channels like this and it is good to provide source material....thats all
@@popcorn-uz3tn I think it was a great suggestion for him to keep improving the channel. there will be many times he can not get that updated info but he can say that as well. If there is settlements out of court they typically will come with a gag order or a NDA. I think this is a great teaching channel and I am sure it will grow and improve greatly
@@littlebrother7386 I agree, I simply was passing on my suggestions to how other channels like this do it right and the extra things they add. I would never have posted that had he not asked for suggestions.
The point is he now has to prove that his authority can not be challenged. The other officer said it perfectly near the end when he told the other guy not to let him go and to set an example showing him and the rest of us that we can’t just assert our rights and must bend to their will. It’s all about maintaining power and control over anything they decide to control.
Its really concerning that in all of these videos the Police seem to genuinely not know the most basic laws of their state. How are they qualified Police officers? There is something VERY wrong about that.
It should be mandatory that if any officer of the law turns off his body cam at any given time he should be fired and not eligible for any kind of appeal.
Yep, police should only be allowed to turn off their body cams when they go to the toilet and when their shift finishes. By turning it off it looks like they have something to hide
Remember that cops do make mistakes sometimes, this cop must be new or never had to deal with such a circumstance. And do not fret, the punishment for an officer unlawfully doing something does not go unnoticed. There will be written records that anyone may access that in detail explain what the officer has done and if they commit too many strikes, they're removed from their job. I don't agree that cops are the problem with USA or the world because if they were then you'd have videos of every police encounter.
@@PsyKick Remember the office vs the student who picking up trash on his apt. ground?.. well, he served 14 years.. so it's not about newness or inexperienced.. the cop even pull-out his service gun against the student for not obliging to his command to sit and provide birthdate.. if that's not a case of ego and arrogance, then I don't know what it is.. Beside, if any law hasn't been broken is NOT THE MATTER (as the cop in the video stated and the point the OP highlight).. then what rights the officer has then to arrest/detain anyone.. is like saying that police can and has the authority to arrest someone for even breathing just because he like to do so..
ada-dech I don’t know what the second part is meant to be or where it came from but the first part of your sentence literally explains what I put, referring to when I said new OR never had to deal with such circumstance. I’ve known police who have served 10 years and the worst thing they were in was someone driving a stolen tank through the street and the rest wasn’t anything terrible, so it doesn’t matter how long you’ve served it matters if you’ve been in the situation before.
@@PsyKick That is a plain stupid claim. Observing something suspicious is common place, you can't tell me an officer of 14 years of service can't asses that picking up trash is legal.
It’s kind of the point, but not entirely. The point is also that the subject was not listening to the officer and walking away. So the point was also that he was resisting passively to the commands given. It’s always way better to fight everything in court
@@PoseidonGod Wrong, "not listening a police officer and walking away" is not even a valid argument in court if there is no crime. You litteraly defined a police misconduct argument. He was resisting, because his lawful rights are violated. "the point was resisting passively..." stfu, the video was not taken in nazi Germany. There is no frickin point except that he did not break any fucking laws.
@@sepsis111 True. I wish my suspicion was otherwise but in today's age I wouldn't doubt it for a second. A pity the officers responding were more focused on his identity than his actions.
I know right? I keep hoping something works out and the police officer gets punished properly but most of the time their bosses act like it's nothing and they get a promotion or something
I used to live in southern California and had a friend who shared his 2 kids with his wife in Arizona. In the 90 degrees summer heat in California, his kids would be wearing hoodies and sweat pants because it was 115 in Arizona. 60 degrees is cold to a lot of people.
I'm from southern California too - I remember shivering as a little kid when it was 65 out@@carnivoreisvegan , now that I'm in Canada I've acclimated to it a bit.
@@MrRedforman1 his colleague purposefully told him to turn it off before retelling what happened so if a case happened there isnt a recording of what the cop tells his allies, thus allowing them to bullshit what he said in court. If he fumbled or lied in the retelling on camera, you can't say otherwise in court.
@@MrRedforman1 rewatch from 13:10 "There was some concern for you-" *Other cop turns his camera off* "Turn it off" *pointing at chest cam* *turns off his camera* You literally watch him shut his camera off.
@@MrRedforman1 the OP never said he turned it off while talking to hill. He said he turned it off in general, which he did, and which you disputed. I just corrected you 🤷♂️
They don't care about the LAW they apply statues and codes and make you contract go to a court room and look at the DA desk you will ser the commercial criminal code book .
@@jesse630 I hate to break it to you, but talking to the cops when they are "investigating you" does not have a high probability of working out for you. There is a big reason that the right to remain silent NEEDS to be used more. As was pointed out in the video, because the "subject" was talking and swore at the officer, the officer now has him as committing
@@jesse630 The problem with that is though we don't know how the officer will react. The other problem here is that all he said to the man was that someone called because he is suspicious, which is not a crime. Sure, the demand to know who you are can on its face be a reasonable one, on the other hand, you have no right to know who I am unless you can point to some criminal action I have taken. The Police do not have the right to stop you just because, and unless that we exercise that right it will get eroded. This is an argument about what is right, the police should not be able to just stop you and force you to identify. Then it turns into how many times do you encounter the police. Even if every time you have interacted with them, how long until they see something that is not there? "Well this is the third time we have talked to you, why do you keep running into the Police? Seems suspicious to me." I understand the desire to perceive the Police as a force for good, as genuinely helpful. I want to, I really do. But this channel shows us that the Police are very often, wrong. They are not an all good force in our society, they are not all bad either, they are grey. This is why the best way to interact with them is to know your rights, and only give them the bear minimum in order to protect yourself. There is a reason that the Miranda warnings specifically include "Anything you say can and will be used against you." What it fails to mention is that anything you have already said can be used as well.
deleted my comments because I'm still getting replies 6 months later and its annoying asf also you really don't need to tell me anything more I've heard it all I've gotten over 50 replies already
@@jesse630 He did cooperate. All the way to the end of the investigation when it was agreed that he did nothing wrong and wasn't getting arrested. Didn't you watch the video?
@@jesse630 Why is it very unlikely? Why do we have such little standards for our police? Is it really that hard for them to follow the rights that a given to us by the constitution? Why do we treat them like children who can’t have their little feelings hurt. It’s pathetic that they have such little standards.
It is the responsibility of each and every citizen to know his/her rights and actively exercise them! Let freedom ring! Make America Truly Great Again! Forget tRump!
Lmao but you people clearly had what you thought was enough evidence to be the judge, jury, and executioner. He’s not hiding his “crime” hes turning it off because there is nothing else to show, since the suspect is in handcuffs and the officers car. That’s standard procedure. Do you people know nothing about police procedures?
and they all go to work everyday and enforce whatever the fk they please. and they happily take the pay check every two weeks . $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Its a big part of the problem. So many jobs require you take test to make sure your still knowledgeable about your job and you have to pass those test. And yet its not required for police to be tested on a regular basis.
Citizen: "Have I broken any laws?" Cop: "Thats not the point." Hahah another cop in dire need of immediate termination based off of his complete disregard of the US Constitution and our rights.
I agree. Considering the gravity of the powers police are afforded in terms of fundamental human rights their training and recruitment screening can only be inadequate. To all coloured people and minorities, I am so sorry that you have to suffer these challenges and I am ashamed to be a white person. Race should be and is irrelevant.
@@jopaljopal4256 Yep. Ive been rooting for standardized and mandatory police training handled at the federal level regardless of State, and subsequent State laws can be trained at the local City or County and State level via attorneys who are local and understand the local laws and can pass on the most critical info to police better than a DA would. All of this should be mandatory training from the very top to the bottom. I used to be in auxiliary police myself and Ive seen what types of training go on...and the other downside is lots of cops shell out money from their own pockets for additional training outside of their departments because the departments dont have funding. Thats why I want to see all police/sherrif/whatever training handled in a standardized way at the Federal level, much in the way the military branches are trained (I was Army, and I know this highly standardized training will work). Federal-mandated and standardized police training would obviously include heavy understanding of the Constitution and the laws they are sworn to protect and the inalienable rights that ALL Americans have, along with plenty of training on using non-deadly force options, better verbal commands and communication skills, de-escalation skills, COMPASSION for the public regardless of protected-class status (age/sex/race/religion/etc) and generally how to not be a total loser and not fail at your job...also mental health screenings or counseling quarterly or bi-annually, or yearly to make sure that no one is cracking under pressure or whatever. Policing is a really tough job especislly in high crime areas, and the bad cops need to be weeded-out because it makes the job even more painful and dangerous for every other good cop out there. All of these things and much more are critically important for every single officer to be trained on and aware of. I pray that what Im hoping for happens...at least that every State is forced to take it upon themselves to enforce their own standardized training of every officer or sherriff/deputy in their own lands...but I like Federal better because just like history has shown, one State could choose to standardize on a racist or sexist or otherwise stupid policy that would never fly if the Federal government handled it. Normally I hate big brother and stuff like that, but I know that Basic Training and AIT works in the military for standardized training and every soldier across the US is mostly on the same page if properly trained...therefore if we made a police-specific training program where no county or city or town could cry about not having the funds or time to schedule every officer for all this training, I feel that this would help tremendously. States should still have a say in their own unique training and laws, but its gotta fall under a broader standardized training system that forces training on identifying and avoiding abuse of power and excessive force and knowing the laws, etc.
Until he sues and gets paid! You have to hit em in the pocket or else nobody learns a lesson.Then they'll have to let them go. Unlawful detainment, search and arrest. Dude can get bank if he's smart; which he seems to be.
SSky06 they think they are above the LAW and they don’t even know there own laws!!! One day I was driving pass the police station and I saw a shit ton of cops with this boot in hand walking around trying to get sum charity, I’m thinking to myself fuck you, every time when mfs break into our house, you fucking pigs take 3 to 4 hours!!! I had a bunch of gold wrapped chocolate coins and I gave like 5 cops one in the boot each lol. Fuck all cops period! Shit my uncle a cops too, fuck him too
Blame the FOP. They will protect an officer against any misdeeds. The cop could literally be caught balls deep in a minor and they will defend them until their dying breath
It's scary how out of control this country's police are. I've personally seen this stuff in life way too many times. Our court system doesn't care either
"We violated this man's rights by illegally detaining and arresting him and have zero understanding of the laws for which we're responsible for enforcing. But we've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing on our own part." Christ. And they wonder why people don't trust them.
@@drnapalm7605 all the people killed were not resisting. And your argument basically says that your rights can be abused for a payoff. How American is that?
this video in a nutshell: "you're suspicious" "how" *ignores* "what's your name" "i don't have to tell you that" "you're under arrest" "why" "cause you didn't tell your name" "but I don't have to" "yea but you're suspicious" "how" "lol idk"
The grading scale has certainly changed since this video, I’m going back to from today to see more content since finding this channel and this one definitely stands out for grading the civilian too harshly. Today he would have a an A+ as I believe he should, he was calm, verbalized his rights and didn’t resist when unlawfully arrested. Many put up a struggle to remain out of cuffs and I think he did great to remain this calm and complying when his argument wasn’t understood by the officer.
@@benhorton2849 true, I guess that may be the biggest difference in some of the other videos I am comparing it to. I guess he stopped having the A+ grade when he continued to walk away after the orders to stop.
@@HaloWarlord88 Also let's be honest ATA has gotten softer on non-auditors. But yeah it's conduct, I think he would be gotten a higher B these days though maybe yeah.
I think the narrator got it wrong that he didn't comply. What he was doing was calling their bluff. He asked if he was detained and the cop refused to answer him, so he walked away. He forced the cop to choose if he was detained or not so he could have a lawsuit. Otherwise, the interaction could have been construed as consensual.
thats giving the cops too much credit. they dont need to know all the laws, as thats extremely difficult. they just need to know the very basics and the constitution. thats it. and they fail at even that. i cant believe they think they have the authority to stop people and demand ID like they live in nazi germany
@@WhatsY0UTUB3 Wtf has that to do with „nazi“ germany the police here wont bother anyone and are trained 3,5 years and have a bachelor of laws when they finish dont even dare to compre your police force with European countries
When an entire police station investigates this and finds no wrong doing it means the entire station is corrupt, fire the lot at the top here and replace them.
@@icin4d you’re an idiot lmaoo. You think every single officer in the entire station watched this video 😂😂 it’s the probably job of at most 2 officers to investigate into an interaction like this that did not end in violence. Don’t be ignorant.
Not only that how many jobs can you name where you can kill someone with your knee pressed against their neck, and then get bailed out of jail for a couple millions while making 40-50k a year. Police unions are fucking pointless no wonder people are mad
I love how normal citizens have to react calm cool and collected when they're being wrongfully detained but a cop can react like a scared little kid with a gun and get some paid vacation
From what ive seen i think its better to just go along with it, because if you do anything about it that could go bad for you in the situatuion, the officers have bodycams so if you say they did anything wrong they could check the bodycam and realize you werent in the wrong
@@13DollarBill. that doesnt prevent the tyranny or the injustice. You are proved correct, the cops get a paid vacation or are let go from the police force but remain on city payroll or some garbage.
All the officer knows in this situation is someone called in a suspicious. The man in video is acting in a manner that a guilty person would. All he had to do was identify himself, tell his side and go about his day. But no, he had to be a hardass, filming it to show his friends. What if this happened in a dangerous suburb. Someone could've been shot in this situation. Nothing would've happened to him had he just complied. If the officer tried to do something shady, he would've won in court. The officer here was extremely polite and patient here.
@GentlemenGhidorah What is more likely to happen is that there would be a lot more dangerous escalations when interacting with the police because the police officers in the United States are incredibly touchy about seeing citizens wearing weapons, and like it or not, they will outnumber you in those situations. Heck, you are likely to be shot just for carrying. What I do agree with is that the police officers need a lot more training, psych evaluations, and oversight by someone other than the police themselves. It is stupendously dumb that when an officer's conduct is evaluated by the department of police.
@@Datamike lawfully open-carrying firearms doesn’t increase police shootings. It’s incredibly common where I live (small town where an incredibly high % of people do tend to legally carry guns) and shootings are essentially a non-existent thing. Police officers also don’t have anonymity here because of the small town nature of the area so it’s virtually impossible for them to do fucked up things without being held socially accountable for it. More people expressing their 2nd amendment rights in a legal and responsible fashion almost always equals a more fair and just societal experience. Those looking to infringe on your rights or do you harm, whether they have a badge or not, have to think twice about their actions when they don’t have an inherent leg up on you.
when the second officer quietly says "turn it off" regarding the first officer's body cam , i got chills. That's absolutely abhorrent behavior on behalf of the whole county's police force and police in other states that do the same type of thing. .
All interactions should require 100% recording. Cops shouldn't be able to turn cameras off. Pressing the "off" button should make the cop think it's off, flag that part of the video as attempted to shut off, but keep recording.
@@ObservationofLimits I agree. I personally think that if a police officer turns off a body cam, messes with security cams, etc. they should be charged with worst possible outcome. Example: Epsteins 2 guards should ve charged with 1st degree murder, tampering with evidence, and obstructing justice.
@@TheOriginalJphyper probably because officers don't wear them when they are off duty. Not that the ability to turn them off while on duty isn't a problem, but it definitely makes sense for them to be off while not in use (e.g. while in a locker).
@@NotMykl If you're not a bootlicking tool of a clown, you'd also know that in Stop and ID states, a police officer must have REASONABLE SUSPICION regarding you committing a crime in order to be stopped and identified lawfully. Being black and wearing a jacket and hat in 60 degree weather while walking in a public space like a sidewalk is not a crime and therefore a police officer cannot detain you and force you to identify yourself even in a Stop and ID state. Clearly stated in the video but you're probably too stupid to even sit there and watch a 10 minute video.
@@ichigo2012hollowmask He can. Diddnt you saw the Video ? The Police looked up on this case and saw nothing wrong with it. Sooo ? did a jugde saw this ? if not why ? Knowing this officer got no problems after this is showing me your LAWs are not Valid. A law is a law and if nothings is happen if you dont follow this law ..... then its the same like there is no LAW in the first place. LOL
@@ichigo2012hollowmask How about "We got calls that you were going door to door soliciting, which is illegal here." That's REASONABLE SUSPICION good sir.
I would wear a jacket and hat if I was staying outside for a prolonged period of time and it 67 Degrees. I absolutely LOVE how officers can establish some sort of reasonable suspicion and escalate it to probable cause on an anonymous call from a person who claims they live in the neighborhood. And please take note of time frame 4:19 ... "He won't identify himself as a suspicious person to investigate" ... ?????? WTF?????
That's complete nonsense. If he knew he was wrong, he wouldn't be doing it. He thinks people need to listen to him. He's used to people listening to him. He knows how to handle three types of people: Those that treat him with respect and deference, those that flee, and those that attack. People that calmly tell him he has no right to stop them and just walk away blow his mind. He's a fish out of water. That's why he's stammering.
@@chuckyiwantallthesmokeloza1211 Actually, I think some of the stuff he said was actually true. I'm not sure if it's the same guy. They both have the same name, but I think the case he's talking about occurred in Washington. However, that's irrelevant to how the police treated the man. They were awful to him.
@Not Applicable Keland Hill is the guy you are talking about... Keilon Hill is the guy in this video, they also look nothing alike... well they are both black but that is about it. It is sad that I am just grateful he didn't get beat up or end up dead, wrongfully arrested but not dead. But you should also consider removing your comment now that you know it is misinformation.
@Vada Minot seems people on this thread are retarded because some of them commented "why is the cop even there for a man sleeping in his car" BECAUSE WENDY EMPLOYEE CALLED THE COPS MORON. That's why. Sleeping in your car in the middle of the drive through lane is actually not "sleeping" it's passed out. Drunk or otherwise intoxicated as we found out in this case.
That second cop who suggested arresting him regardless in order to “dissuade dissent” the next time is vile. What a piece of trash. Why are people so supportive of a system that supports abusive behavior that is literally against the laws they’re supposed to uphold. It’s been said countless times, but you’re only as strong as your weakest link and these clowns are pretty cowardly.
Not all cops are bad, however, a lot of them let the power go to their head, or are just abusive. The cops where I live are very nice, polite, and don't do unnecessary stuff.
Unfortunately this is VERY common. In most police interactions there is a crime or a report of a crime, and thus police can legally detain and question people. But when there is no crime and by default, no investigation of a crime, I think police forget that people can choose to not interact with them and the officer feels like his authority as a LEO is in question and their ego takes over. Someone clutching their pearls because they saw a black man on a public sidewalk and calling the police is incredibly racist. LEO's should recognize that fact and once they determine the person is not threatening, belligerent or intoxicated they need to wish him a good day and leave them alone.
What I don't get though is.. Yeah, this was 99.99% called in via racial profiling. But if a cop was called on me for soliciting in a neighborhood as a white person, I would've cooperated with his questioning. And yes, I've seen neighbors call the cops for solicitors in my neighborhood. As soon as this guy disclosed he wasn't soliciting & it was political, this convo would've been over and cop would've been on his way. This didn't have to be difficult. I understand black dude's frustration but he could've gone the easy way. Innocence and openness will prevail 99.999999999% of the time
@Melanin Queen Melanin Queen... That name is pretty racist. Cops don't even mention race as a reason, yet, here you are, singling yourself out. Lets have a big brain moment, yeah?
the decent cops should be ashamed of this shit, and maybe a few are.. but nobody does anything!! they defend their brothers to the end, which makes them complicit.
@@KTGHATS a culture of no more good cops. It's war against the people...not crime fighting. Desecration of their own oaths, not service of Justice. Workers of iniquity, not an institution of Truth. Failed state, America
What’s really scary is the fact that the prosecutor took this bogus harassment of a public official all the way to TRIAL. I’m mean really?? What a waste of tax payer money.
He was straight up, a top notch dickhead. He knew NOTHING of the situation and acted like he was there from the get go. On top of that, he did NOT even care to find out what happened. All he did was ask the first cop what happened and was like "Yeah fuck that guy, arrest him. Walking away is a horrible crime!!". Both should be sacked. Horrible, unprofessional, morons...
It should be a Class A felony (destruction of evidence) for police to mute or turn off cameras while in the field or durring investigation, or any conversations while in charge of arrestee. Obvious crimes are committed by cops when they take these actions.
@@shadowbanned5164 a lawful command, correct. However, because an officer says so doesn't make it so, they have to obey their scope of law as well. Giving law enforcement or government agencies or departments the right to make up laws on the spot is called ....
@@shadowbanned5164 telling him to stop and talk to him isn’t a lawful order. Nobody is inclined to have to talk to anybody. And without any crime committed, he can ignore the cop as he pleases as the conversation is consensual
@@offaxisdude Conservatives take offense at people kneeling during a song, criticizing their religion, or protesters . . . yknow, the liberals that take offense when cops do this kind of unlawful shit.
@@NymbusCumulo928 false. Kneeling is disrespect towards the roots of this country. People take offense to others criticizing what they believe because they have a right to, when they're being harassed for what they believe and being persecuted to the point that they can't live the same life as others. Also, the "protesters" that you're referring to ARE NOT FUCKING PROTESTERS! THEY'RE RIOTERS! They murder people/children on the streets, they wreck businesses and loot them, they vandalize countless buildings, and they were ignored until the polls shifted away from the left and THAT'S when the left criticized the violence. You clearly are too mind warped by the media to believe any truth so I won't bother saying any more to you.
It's ridicilous that he was charged with harassment of a public official, when he is the one actively trying to leave, while being followed and harassed by a public official
Colm O'driscoll no crime has been committed, you do not have to identify yourself or give any information upon an order by law enforcement or any other person unless a crime has been committed Did you watch the video?
I think it's funny that you're trying to establish some dominance here when were both on the same side. I was quoting the officer because what he was saying was ridiculous... your condescending "did you watch the video" comment was unwarranted and ignorant. yes I watched the video, how would I have quoted him directly had I not watched it. the above quote should have showed you that I'm aware no crime was committed... did you read my comment at all or just immediately take offense at some non existent stance. the 35 people that liked my comment obviously new that I was not at all on the officers side...
@@ThatRandomAsain Uh, that's why the officer is there, to make sure and investigate whether or not it's going on. Fuckin backwards world you live in, cops aren't mind readers.
@@iskralyapunova8351 The least the officer could of did was talk to the guy like a regular citizen instead of treating him like a criminal before asking for identification.
Internal investigations need to be done by either the state certifying agency that grants local police powers of arrest or the federal government. End qualified immunity.
John Zapien that implies that you consistently watch his videos, which counts towards his views. Plus you comment on them which also adds to the TH-cam algorithms. But, oh no! You’ll never subscribe. He’s also gotten many right and the fact that cities had to pay citizens for many of the police encounters he’s audited is, in fact, fact that’s he’s right
When ever an officer is caught on camera like that. Not knowing, or disobeying the laws. They should be striped of their badge. And sent back to cadet school to learn their laws!! No pay!!! loss of any seniority!! And no vacation time!! Also those body cameras should be turned on at the start of a shift by a registered officer in charge at the station. And shut off only at the end of the shift by a registered officer at the station!! No more covering up plots! Or mistakes!
send back to cadet school? If you're to stupid to get the most basic laws of the laws you need to UPHOLD you're just to stupid to even be a cop. Just lose the badge en never be able to be a cop again
@@Frdmunoz06 bruh....wr need a specific board to judge cops independently from the system that protects them from this shit...cause they jus keep getting away with this and im tired of warning my two sons 12 and 11 yrs old how to act and speak in from of the ppl that's supposed to protect them..its not right in anyway
This could have gone: Officer: "Hey, some Karen called in a "suspicious person. What're you up to?" Hoodie Guy: "I'm handing out campaign fliers." Officer: "Have a nice day."
"Because you're not listening" is said about 100 times. Little known fact: most states have secretly passed statutes against hurting an officer's feelings.
@John Merchant Absolutely not. Take that violent talk somewhere else. This police department should be reformed to respect civil liberties and root out racism, and society changed so that nobody calls the cops when a black guy is sharing literature door to door. Nothing about this calls for killing anyone.
Go be a cop for one day, and see how easy it is. Someone called. They come up and the guy is dressed like a burglar on a sunny day, he's acting elusive and dismissive and not even making eye contact.Then he starts walking away and ignoring the officer who is actually doing his job and reacting to a call. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!
Love how this channel breaks down everything wrong by state and federal law. A lot of times we see these videos and know it’s wrong but don’t know the exact laws or reasons. Some of my favorite content on TH-cam although I feel bad for the victims and the harassment they have to endure
Danny Fergusson well that’s not necessarily true. Freedom of information act allows anyone to obtain these types of videos. Now with TH-cam, a whole lot more “average joes” are requesting & posting these body cam videos & interrogations. There does not need to be any intention of court proceedings in order to get this video. But you probably know all this lol
@Clorox Bleach What? You're out of order..lol Saying it like that means the exact same thing and will have the exact same result of idiocy. "Suspicious" must be clearly articulated and demonstrated before an arrest or lawful order can be made. The "CRIMINAL" asked countless times and did not receive a justifiable response that warranted an ID check, an arrest and more importantly, gave this impotent cop any jurisdiction... which can only be obtained if a crime has, is being or about to be committed, without which he's just another bum on the street. If we did this it would result in kidnapping charges. This was profiling, racism, harrassment, threats, assault, false imprisonment and the denial of rights, freedoms and liberties on the "SUSPECT" and a complete violation of the Constitution this muppet took an oath to uphold. .. no matter what order it was in... The cop was the idiot.. the idiot was the cop.
@Clorox Bleach Btw, you did say the cop said it WRONG, proceeded to changed the order of what he said to make it RIGHT because that's "what he meant".. according to you...it was the moral of your entire story you muppet..
@Clorox Bleach You called me an @ss a moron and a dingbat for what? I didn't insult you personally at all.. reported and blocked??? You are hilarious and everyone can see just how full of crap you are. Love it, thank you for this gift.. bahaha
"You're a suspicious person in a hat and jacket." = "You're black." That lady walking her dog in the back had a jacket on as well. She wasn't detained.
@@GUITARTIME2024 he asked if he was being detained and he said no so he could leave. Regardless to be detained they need a reason and being suspicious isn’t a reason
@@SomeKata there is no "illegally detain". There is "detain while police are figuring out the situation". Its a basic right they have. It would be unsafe if officers were not able to do this. A traffic stop is actually an example of this. Detain doesn't mean arrest.
He shoulda said, " Officer I'm about to go for a run, you running with me" and took off.... just so he could chase and talking him while having no justification to do so. THAT woulda made him a lot of money in court. Especially if he got injured.
@@trinitycarroll256 while having no justification to do so? This person refuses to answer questions about the call, which gives the officer reason to stop him, since he doesn’t know if he has or hasn’t committed a crime yet, and since he’s walking away, it make it look like he has. Lawsuits are some of the worst things that happen in courtrooms, since they don’t determine laws they dint carry the same weight, which can result in some really stupid shit. Such as, I spilled hot coffee on myself, give me money, and I ran away from a police officer and refused to cooperate in his investigation and I deserve money since I got arrested fir that. My point being, lawsuits that go through do not have the same effect as a criminal court case. So this little lawsuit can be unjust and still get this person money.
@@henryalley8609 He already identified what he was doing. There was no crime. If you're stopped by a cop and they don't have any probable causes as to why they are stopping you, you can walk away.
Is this a new law on their books. “Not listening to me”. This is the real reason. I’ll detain you For what? You are in a white neighborhood and you are black sir wearing a black jacket and hat. Your kind are not allowed in this neighborhood so I am going to arrest you. This officer is clearly a big fat racist. This officer was not fired. Not only should this officer had been fired so should this city’s police chief because all three officers do not know the law and were not trained by this police department. You cannot detain someone if they have not committed a crime.
12:25 Officer: "So what's the issue here man?" "I don't know, you tell me." The officer has failed to mention what the probable cause, or the "suspicion" is.
i disagree with you both. Those things made him a suspicious person, plus the handbills and they are why Dispatch sent an officer out to investigate. But what got him arrested was exactly what the officer kept saying over + over at the end when the guy asked him "Why are you arresting me?" - he always answered "Because you are not listening to me!!". All I could think was, buddy, just wait until your kids are teenagers, you better learn to get over yourself or they'll be in those not-listening arresting cuffs too!
@@heidikickhouse- Buddy, the police are not our parents, they are not our authority. They are our servants, they listen to us until duty calls on them to do otherwise. It's clear that their training in this case did not include any legal knowledge of how to detail a person under suspicion, and when to let someone go after it is clear the person had, has, or is not about to commit a crime. I hope everyone sticks up under the police misconduct so we can further understand their corruption and actually make change to better it.
@@oakley3815 Never rely on the police to help you with anything. LE is a reactionary force often too late or too incompetent to prevent anything. Being prepared and defending yourself is the only guarantee of your safety.
I've watched a bunch of these videos recently and the common theme across all of them is that all these officer are on huge ego/power trips, and then escalate the situation when law-abiding citizens don't put up with their abuse of authority. The need to be held accountable.
I agree. I’ve seen so many of these videos where these power tripping cops act like this. They can’t stand it when someone knows more than them. I would love to see them all get held accountable but I don’t think it’ll happen unfortunately. I’m a female (contrary to those who call me ‘sir’ or ‘bro’ on here lol I’m not a hater though because I choose to look like this lol) and I had a male officer throw me against his patrol car and got so close to me while screaming in my ear that I felt his penis against my behind. Someone told him someone had warrants but he automatically zeroed in on me when it wasn’t me! I don’t get this type of bully.
This is so so true, it TRUELY bothers me that still agencies are hiring these type of police officers…there should be mandatory classes and training to maintain their egos and use common sense but most important learn to NOT GET JADED!!! Start every interaction giving every person the benefit of not judging them based on ur previous interactions and get better at DEESCALATING situations instead of ESCALATING THEM!!!! Come on it’s 2021 when will things CHANGE?!? Ggggrrrrrr 😡
This is why they get so uppidt when they have any interaction that isn't met with refnence or submissivness from the citizen. Even just having a smile on their face will lead the cop to ask 'whats with the attitude' so they can try to provoke the citizen more.
makes me wonder what all these idiot police officers are actually thinking inside their minds when they're getting schooled on laws and rights by a civilian. unless they are actually unknowledgeable, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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I want to support your channel and sub, but can you show the source to this, to flash an article that this hit the press and not link the source is disingenuous. Did this guy file suit is it in court, did the police higher ups apologize....a hundred questions?
He has free speach so he done nothing wrong.
@@codycampbell3723 I get all that Cody, I like this dudes perspective and he is asking for opinions and advice to grow his channel. I sub many channels like this and it is good to provide source material....thats all
@@popcorn-uz3tn I think it was a great suggestion for him to keep improving the channel. there will be many times he can not get that updated info but he can say that as well. If there is settlements out of court they typically will come with a gag order or a NDA. I think this is a great teaching channel and I am sure it will grow and improve greatly
@@littlebrother7386 I agree, I simply was passing on my suggestions to how other channels like this do it right and the extra things they add. I would never have posted that had he not asked for suggestions.
"I'm detaining you for not listening"
I should have arrested my daughter about 6,578 times by now....
😂 - bravo, good sir
Solid Dad Joke there must be a cut up at the neighborhood BBQ
@@jp3achtr33p6 lol fkn rights bud
LMAO!
Detaining is different arresting.
"Have I broken any laws?" "That's not the point." Then what is the point
Literallyyyy
( . )That is the point 😂
The point is he now has to prove that his authority can not be challenged. The other officer said it perfectly near the end when he told the other guy not to let him go and to set an example showing him and the rest of us that we can’t just assert our rights and must bend to their will. It’s all about maintaining power and control over anything they decide to control.
@@scoobertmcruppert2915 it's sad that what you said was true.
I love how the student knows how fucking stupid this officer is, and just doesn’t give a shit
5:04 "Have I broken any laws?"
"That's not the point".
Yes, as a "Law Enforcement Officer", that's exactly the point.
Yessir! Damn right!
Its really concerning that in all of these videos the Police seem to genuinely not know the most basic laws of their state. How are they qualified Police officers? There is something VERY wrong about that.
@@benja303 average police training in the USA: 3 months. That's why.
@@smaakjeks No. It's because they are STUPID.
@@fernandobenaventelara630 Great analysis, professor science.
It should be mandatory that if any officer of the law turns off his body cam at any given time he should be fired and not eligible for any kind of appeal.
DAWN ROBINSON-JUBERT true, in an ideal world though, not in a world that the whole system is corrupted
Yep, police should only be allowed to turn off their body cams when they go to the toilet and when their shift finishes. By turning it off it looks like they have something to hide
messy jesse well THAT escalated quickly!
Should be fired and perma banned from any police work ever.
I dont think they should have control of that.
“Have I broken any laws?”
“Thats not the point”
This is exactly the problem with cops in the USA and the world
no i think it's just a problem with USA i think
Remember that cops do make mistakes sometimes, this cop must be new or never had to deal with such a circumstance. And do not fret, the punishment for an officer unlawfully doing something does not go unnoticed. There will be written records that anyone may access that in detail explain what the officer has done and if they commit too many strikes, they're removed from their job. I don't agree that cops are the problem with USA or the world because if they were then you'd have videos of every police encounter.
@@PsyKick Remember the office vs the student who picking up trash on his apt. ground?.. well, he served 14 years.. so it's not about newness or inexperienced.. the cop even pull-out his service gun against the student for not obliging to his command to sit and provide birthdate.. if that's not a case of ego and arrogance, then I don't know what it is..
Beside, if any law hasn't been broken is NOT THE MATTER (as the cop in the video stated and the point the OP highlight).. then what rights the officer has then to arrest/detain anyone.. is like saying that police can and has the authority to arrest someone for even breathing just because he like to do so..
ada-dech I don’t know what the second part is meant to be or where it came from but the first part of your sentence literally explains what I put, referring to when I said new OR never had to deal with such circumstance. I’ve known police who have served 10 years and the worst thing they were in was someone driving a stolen tank through the street and the rest wasn’t anything terrible, so it doesn’t matter how long you’ve served it matters if you’ve been in the situation before.
@@PsyKick That is a plain stupid claim. Observing something suspicious is common place, you can't tell me an officer of 14 years of service can't asses that picking up trash is legal.
"Have I broken any laws?" "That's not the point."
THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT!
Sue that low down dog.
I think those pigs to change their names to Tweedledum and Tweedledee dumber.
Exactly
It’s kind of the point, but not entirely. The point is also that the subject was not listening to the officer and walking away. So the point was also that he was resisting passively to the commands given. It’s always way better to fight everything in court
@@PoseidonGod Wrong, "not listening a police officer and walking away" is not even a valid argument in court if there is no crime. You litteraly defined a police misconduct argument. He was resisting, because his lawful rights are violated. "the point was resisting passively..." stfu, the video was not taken in nazi Germany. There is no frickin point except that he did not break any fucking laws.
I hope the people who call these "suspicious people" feel good about what they cause.
They think they’re heroes
@@richardrichard9953 for calling the cops on a random black dude just trying to give out his flyers peacefully and legally...
They want to stop that candidate from canvassing.....
@@sepsis111
True. I wish my suspicion was otherwise but in today's age I wouldn't doubt it for a second. A pity the officers responding were more focused on his identity than his actions.
Hope he took legal action
Even with the body cams they still act up, imagine how it was back in the 80s
Scary times back in the 80s.
And 70’s and 60’s and 90’s and 2000’s and 2010’s
2010s the tides were changing
Ok I need to stop watching these. I'm getting way too pissed.
I know right? I keep hoping something works out and the police officer gets punished properly but most of the time their bosses act like it's nothing and they get a promotion or something
Dam I think I been watching to much too if I came across your comment! lol I feel the same way too.
I'm not going to watch just reading the comments
Me too find it sad that this goes on in England and the US
Right😭
The victim sued the West Des Moines police department and received a $75,000 settlement.
Good!
Shoulda got 2x that!
POTG
Please provide a link. It would be great to read about the outcome.
GOOD! Fuck racism! BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!! I'm so sick of this shit.
911 Caller: Someone is wearing a hat and jacket on a sunny day.
911 Dispatcher: Fashion Police are on their way.
lol
mans got to get them new nikes
i wished it was because of its clothes, but we both know it wasnt ://
Bro i checked 67 faahrenheit and bro, I WEAR FUCKING JACKETS IN THAT WEATHER. I'm from australia so 5 degrees Celsius is fking cold AF.
@@Stillious22 wait that's 5°C ?? Wtf that's crazy
Wearing a hat, AND a jacket? In this neighborhood? How dare he! Truly a menace to society!
I used to live in southern California and had a friend who shared his 2 kids with his wife in Arizona. In the 90 degrees summer heat in California, his kids would be wearing hoodies and sweat pants because it was 115 in Arizona. 60 degrees is cold to a lot of people.
I'm from southern California too - I remember shivering as a little kid when it was 65 out@@carnivoreisvegan , now that I'm in Canada I've acclimated to it a bit.
They should fire them for turning off the body cam, that is obstruction.
@@MrRedforman1 the cop did. He turned off his body camera when his colleague stopped him from his retelling to tell him quietly to turn it off.
@@MrRedforman1 his colleague purposefully told him to turn it off before retelling what happened so if a case happened there isnt a recording of what the cop tells his allies, thus allowing them to bullshit what he said in court. If he fumbled or lied in the retelling on camera, you can't say otherwise in court.
@@MrRedforman1 rewatch from 13:10
"There was some concern for you-"
*Other cop turns his camera off*
"Turn it off" *pointing at chest cam*
*turns off his camera*
You literally watch him shut his camera off.
@@MrRedforman1 "officer ray proceeds to shut off his body camera before relaying his perspective"
Even the youtuber fucking says as much.
@@MrRedforman1 the OP never said he turned it off while talking to hill. He said he turned it off in general, which he did, and which you disputed. I just corrected you 🤷♂️
Cops like to say to us civilians, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." Seems most cops are clueless about the law.
Most are idiots, and I’m a CRJ graduate confirming this!
They don't care about the LAW they apply statues and codes and make you contract go to a court room and look at the DA desk you will ser the commercial criminal code book .
Absolutely... they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer to start with.
It has been established in court that ignorance of the law is an excuse, but only if you are a police officer.
in the same breath they'll ask you "Where'd you get your law degree" if you do know the law
"He won't talk to me, so I arrested him." Yea....that's called the fifth amendment nutcase.
@@jesse630 I hate to break it to you, but talking to the cops when they are "investigating you" does not have a high probability of working out for you. There is a big reason that the right to remain silent NEEDS to be used more. As was pointed out in the video, because the "subject" was talking and swore at the officer, the officer now has him as committing
@@jesse630 The problem with that is though we don't know how the officer will react. The other problem here is that all he said to the man was that someone called because he is suspicious, which is not a crime. Sure, the demand to know who you are can on its face be a reasonable one, on the other hand, you have no right to know who I am unless you can point to some criminal action I have taken. The Police do not have the right to stop you just because, and unless that we exercise that right it will get eroded. This is an argument about what is right, the police should not be able to just stop you and force you to identify. Then it turns into how many times do you encounter the police. Even if every time you have interacted with them, how long until they see something that is not there? "Well this is the third time we have talked to you, why do you keep running into the Police? Seems suspicious to me."
I understand the desire to perceive the Police as a force for good, as genuinely helpful. I want to, I really do. But this channel shows us that the Police are very often, wrong. They are not an all good force in our society, they are not all bad either, they are grey. This is why the best way to interact with them is to know your rights, and only give them the bear minimum in order to protect yourself. There is a reason that the Miranda warnings specifically include "Anything you say can and will be used against you." What it fails to mention is that anything you have already said can be used as well.
deleted my comments because I'm still getting replies 6 months later and its annoying asf also you really don't need to tell me anything more I've heard it all I've gotten over 50 replies already
@@jesse630 He did cooperate. All the way to the end of the investigation when it was agreed that he did nothing wrong and wasn't getting arrested. Didn't you watch the video?
@@jesse630 Why is it very unlikely? Why do we have such little standards for our police? Is it really that hard for them to follow the rights that a given to us by the constitution? Why do we treat them like children who can’t have their little feelings hurt. It’s pathetic that they have such little standards.
This man is awesome because he knows his rights and is exercising them
It is the responsibility of each and every citizen to know his/her rights and actively exercise them! Let freedom ring! Make America Truly Great Again! Forget tRump!
He switched off his body cam, such a disgusting act to hide his crime
Well doing. That is illegal
The real suspicious behavior going on
Good catch brother....
Lmao but you people clearly had what you thought was enough evidence to be the judge, jury, and executioner. He’s not hiding his “crime” hes turning it off because there is nothing else to show, since the suspect is in handcuffs and the officers car. That’s standard procedure. Do you people know nothing about police procedures?
Henry Alley you are such a dumbass it’s incredible! You think the cop did nothing wrong?
This is the problem, Officers themselves don't know the laws that they're trying to enforce, so they make stuff up on the fly.
They don’t have to which is a HUGE problem
And racist
and they all go to work everyday and enforce whatever the fk they please. and they happily take the pay check every two weeks . $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@@shirleymontano9657 not as racist as you though.
Its a big part of the problem. So many jobs require you take test to make sure your still knowledgeable about your job and you have to pass those test. And yet its not required for police to be tested on a regular basis.
"Am I being detained"
"No"
"Ok bye"
"Wait actually yes"
Accurate
Accurate
Accurate
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Let’s say it togetherrrr, “Suspicion is not a crime! Suspicion is not a crime!”
“Is suspicion a felony or misdemeanor” gets them every time
Citizen: "Have I broken any laws?" Cop: "Thats not the point." Hahah another cop in dire need of immediate termination based off of his complete disregard of the US Constitution and our rights.
Don't they *all* need more training?
I agree. Considering the gravity of the powers police are afforded in terms of fundamental human rights their training and recruitment screening can only be inadequate.
To all coloured people and minorities, I am so sorry that you have to suffer these challenges and I am ashamed to be a white person. Race should be and is irrelevant.
@@jopaljopal4256 Yep. Ive been rooting for standardized and mandatory police training handled at the federal level regardless of State, and subsequent State laws can be trained at the local City or County and State level via attorneys who are local and understand the local laws and can pass on the most critical info to police better than a DA would. All of this should be mandatory training from the very top to the bottom. I used to be in auxiliary police myself and Ive seen what types of training go on...and the other downside is lots of cops shell out money from their own pockets for additional training outside of their departments because the departments dont have funding. Thats why I want to see all police/sherrif/whatever training handled in a standardized way at the Federal level, much in the way the military branches are trained (I was Army, and I know this highly standardized training will work). Federal-mandated and standardized police training would obviously include heavy understanding of the Constitution and the laws they are sworn to protect and the inalienable rights that ALL Americans have, along with plenty of training on using non-deadly force options, better verbal commands and communication skills, de-escalation skills, COMPASSION for the public regardless of protected-class status (age/sex/race/religion/etc) and generally how to not be a total loser and not fail at your job...also mental health screenings or counseling quarterly or bi-annually, or yearly to make sure that no one is cracking under pressure or whatever. Policing is a really tough job especislly in high crime areas, and the bad cops need to be weeded-out because it makes the job even more painful and dangerous for every other good cop out there. All of these things and much more are critically important for every single officer to be trained on and aware of. I pray that what Im hoping for happens...at least that every State is forced to take it upon themselves to enforce their own standardized training of every officer or sherriff/deputy in their own lands...but I like Federal better because just like history has shown, one State could choose to standardize on a racist or sexist or otherwise stupid policy that would never fly if the Federal government handled it. Normally I hate big brother and stuff like that, but I know that Basic Training and AIT works in the military for standardized training and every soldier across the US is mostly on the same page if properly trained...therefore if we made a police-specific training program where no county or city or town could cry about not having the funds or time to schedule every officer for all this training, I feel that this would help tremendously. States should still have a say in their own unique training and laws, but its gotta fall under a broader standardized training system that forces training on identifying and avoiding abuse of power and excessive force and knowing the laws, etc.
More like needs to be fired. Imagine being hired for a job and not knowing how to do it, even after training.
He was trained to do this. The curruption starts there
"The police department did it's own investigation and determined the police did nothing wrong."
Shocking.
you never see THAT coming.
That happens like 90% of the time
That's bs, I'm white and I am pissed about it.
Until he sues and gets paid! You have to hit em in the pocket or else nobody learns a lesson.Then they'll have to let them go. Unlawful detainment, search and arrest. Dude can get bank if he's smart; which he seems to be.
SSky06 they think they are above the LAW and they don’t even know there own laws!!!
One day I was driving pass the police station and I saw a shit ton of cops with this boot in hand walking around trying to get sum charity, I’m thinking to myself fuck you, every time when mfs break into our house, you fucking pigs take 3 to 4 hours!!!
I had a bunch of gold wrapped chocolate coins and I gave like 5 cops one in the boot each lol.
Fuck all cops period! Shit my uncle a cops too, fuck him too
Body cams should never be turned off by the officer, that in itself should be grounds for dismissal.
Blame the FOP. They will protect an officer against any misdeeds. The cop could literally be caught balls deep in a minor and they will defend them until their dying breath
It's scary how out of control this country's police are. I've personally seen this stuff in life way too many times. Our court system doesn't care either
"We violated this man's rights by illegally detaining and arresting him and have zero understanding of the laws for which we're responsible for enforcing. But we've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing on our own part." Christ. And they wonder why people don't trust them.
Don't Have to Blaspheme God.
@@Christ_died_for_your_sins_777. god doesnt exist you brainwashed sheep
@@Christ_died_for_your_sins_777. shut the fuck up idiot
Fax 📠 no printer 🖨
@@Christ_died_for_your_sins_777. Your god. To say anything else is presumptuous.
Why isn't turning off the body can not a fireable offense? That's straight BS
Exactly
Drnapalm no I was saying they shouldn’t be able to turn them off
@@drnapalm7605 I don't understand your point here
@@drnapalm7605 all the people killed were not resisting. And your argument basically says that your rights can be abused for a payoff. How American is that?
@ALL LIVES MATTER So police officers make policy?
this video in a nutshell:
"you're suspicious"
"how"
*ignores* "what's your name"
"i don't have to tell you that"
"you're under arrest"
"why"
"cause you didn't tell your name"
"but I don't have to"
"yea but you're suspicious"
"how"
"lol idk"
😂😂
Thx
Basically among us 9 months ago
@Devin Barclay he was sitting on sidewalk
circular logic
The grading scale has certainly changed since this video, I’m going back to from today to see more content since finding this channel and this one definitely stands out for grading the civilian too harshly. Today he would have a an A+ as I believe he should, he was calm, verbalized his rights and didn’t resist when unlawfully arrested. Many put up a struggle to remain out of cuffs and I think he did great to remain this calm and complying when his argument wasn’t understood by the officer.
The narrator of the video had a fair point that it's safer for the victim to not do something like walk away from a crazy cop with a gun.
@@benhorton2849 true, I guess that may be the biggest difference in some of the other videos I am comparing it to. I guess he stopped having the A+ grade when he continued to walk away after the orders to stop.
@@HaloWarlord88 Also let's be honest ATA has gotten softer on non-auditors. But yeah it's conduct, I think he would be gotten a higher B these days though maybe yeah.
I think the narrator got it wrong that he didn't comply. What he was doing was calling their bluff. He asked if he was detained and the cop refused to answer him, so he walked away. He forced the cop to choose if he was detained or not so he could have a lawsuit. Otherwise, the interaction could have been construed as consensual.
How is a policeman supposed to do his job without knowing the law? Imagine a surgeon that doesn't know how to operate correctly.
thats giving the cops too much credit. they dont need to know all the laws, as thats extremely difficult. they just need to know the very basics and the constitution. thats it. and they fail at even that.
i cant believe they think they have the authority to stop people and demand ID like they live in nazi germany
@@WhatsY0UTUB3 Wtf has that to do with „nazi“ germany the police here wont bother anyone and are trained 3,5 years and have a bachelor of laws when they finish dont even dare to compre your police force with European countries
@@TheBuzzlin lol because you don't live in nazi germany you moron. you live in democratic germany
Same conclusion. People die that shouldn't have.
@@WhatsY0UTUB3 lmaooooo this actually guy thought you were addressing Germany as being Fascist still
When an entire police station investigates this and finds no wrong doing it means the entire station is corrupt, fire the lot at the top here and replace them.
Ah yes, there's only "a few bad apples." Not when the entire department sees nothing wrong with this.
defund them
34f8cs
the president has been corrupt for at least the past 7 decades....If that's allowed to slip, anything goes!
@@icin4d you’re an idiot lmaoo. You think every single officer in the entire station watched this video 😂😂 it’s the probably job of at most 2 officers to investigate into an interaction like this that did not end in violence. Don’t be ignorant.
I will never understand how police department can investigate itself.
Most slept on comment ever
Police unions baby!
"Ok, we've investigated ourselves, and we've concluded that we did nothing wrong. You can all be at ease now."
Not only that how many jobs can you name where you can kill someone with your knee pressed against their neck, and then get bailed out of jail for a couple millions while making 40-50k a year. Police unions are fucking pointless no wonder people are mad
Because it can't
“Why are you arresting me?”
“Because you aren’t listening to me.”
Hahahahaha.
I love how normal citizens have to react calm cool and collected when they're being wrongfully detained but a cop can react like a scared little kid with a gun and get some paid vacation
From what ive seen i think its better to just go along with it, because if you do anything about it that could go bad for you in the situatuion, the officers have bodycams so if you say they did anything wrong they could check the bodycam and realize you werent in the wrong
Colin the Commie No.
@@13DollarBill. that doesnt prevent the tyranny or the injustice. You are proved correct, the cops get a paid vacation or are let go from the police force but remain on city payroll or some garbage.
All the officer knows in this situation is someone called in a suspicious. The man in video is acting in a manner that a guilty person would. All he had to do was identify himself, tell his side and go about his day. But no, he had to be a hardass, filming it to show his friends. What if this happened in a dangerous suburb. Someone could've been shot in this situation. Nothing would've happened to him had he just complied. If the officer tried to do something shady, he would've won in court. The officer here was extremely polite and patient here.
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I love how cops think EVERYTHING they say is a lawful order.
They would've loved Nazi Germany. That's their style. Papers please! Do everything I tell you or I shoot you! This is what they dream of.
Police think everything they say has the power of law.
I’m lowkey upset that cop didn’t get in trouble. I hope the kid sues them.
@GentlemenGhidorah What is more likely to happen is that there would be a lot more dangerous escalations when interacting with the police because the police officers in the United States are incredibly touchy about seeing citizens wearing weapons, and like it or not, they will outnumber you in those situations. Heck, you are likely to be shot just for carrying.
What I do agree with is that the police officers need a lot more training, psych evaluations, and oversight by someone other than the police themselves. It is stupendously dumb that when an officer's conduct is evaluated by the department of police.
@@Datamike lawfully open-carrying firearms doesn’t increase police shootings. It’s incredibly common where I live (small town where an incredibly high % of people do tend to legally carry guns) and shootings are essentially a non-existent thing. Police officers also don’t have anonymity here because of the small town nature of the area so it’s virtually impossible for them to do fucked up things without being held socially accountable for it. More people expressing their 2nd amendment rights in a legal and responsible fashion almost always equals a more fair and just societal experience. Those looking to infringe on your rights or do you harm, whether they have a badge or not, have to think twice about their actions when they don’t have an inherent leg up on you.
You know that second officer has ruined hundreds of lives in a short period of time.
Yup!
@@commonsense3993 Thats their job!
Thank you for adding the commentary on how to interact with the police. Staying calm and not overreacting is good advice in any situation.
when the second officer quietly says "turn it off" regarding the first officer's body cam , i got chills. That's absolutely abhorrent behavior on behalf of the whole county's police force and police in other states that do the same type of thing. .
Should be grounds for termination and revocation of his law enforcement certificate.
Why do they even have an off switch?
All interactions should require 100% recording. Cops shouldn't be able to turn cameras off. Pressing the "off" button should make the cop think it's off, flag that part of the video as attempted to shut off, but keep recording.
@@ObservationofLimits I agree. I personally think that if a police officer turns off a body cam, messes with security cams, etc. they should be charged with worst possible outcome.
Example: Epsteins 2 guards should ve charged with 1st degree murder, tampering with evidence, and obstructing justice.
@@TheOriginalJphyper probably because officers don't wear them when they are off duty. Not that the ability to turn them off while on duty isn't a problem, but it definitely makes sense for them to be off while not in use (e.g. while in a locker).
Cop: "Can I get some ID"
Citizen: "No"
Cop: *Engage ego trip mode*
In my state when an officer asks for ID you are required by LAW to provide picture ID.
@@NotMykl R. Even if the officer has no cause? What state do you live in? Can you provide the law/statute that requires an picture ID?
@@NotMykl If you're not a bootlicking tool of a clown, you'd also know that in Stop and ID states, a police officer must have REASONABLE SUSPICION regarding you committing a crime in order to be stopped and identified lawfully. Being black and wearing a jacket and hat in 60 degree weather while walking in a public space like a sidewalk is not a crime and therefore a police officer cannot detain you and force you to identify yourself even in a Stop and ID state. Clearly stated in the video but you're probably too stupid to even sit there and watch a 10 minute video.
@@ichigo2012hollowmask He can. Diddnt you saw the Video ? The Police looked up on this case and saw nothing wrong with it. Sooo ? did a jugde saw this ? if not why ? Knowing this officer got no problems after this is showing me your LAWs are not Valid. A law is a law and if nothings is happen if you dont follow this law ..... then its the same like there is no LAW in the first place. LOL
@@ichigo2012hollowmask How about "We got calls that you were going door to door soliciting, which is illegal here." That's REASONABLE SUSPICION good sir.
"He won't identify himself as a suspicious person" He actually said that into the radio with complete sincerety.
hahaha, so stupid it almost makes me have a bit of empathy
This is one of the stupidest arrest I’ve ever seen. This cop clearly doesn’t know anything about his job.
Lol was gunna say same thing 🤣
🤣😂🤣
Lol
The officer is breaking the peace, harassing, and trying to make a conflict where none exist.
"He's walking away, I need backup"
This is the bit that is really scary
Imagine if he started speed walking! The whole department would pull up guns drawn dogs out sniper on roof choppers in the air etc..!!
No, he is getting away.
@@YaNoAwantoMas 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂🤣 too funny
Operator: “911, what’s your emergency”
Caller: “He’s…. HE’S WEARING A SWEATER”
....MENACINGLY!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Face it, unfortunately it's because he was probably the wrong skin tone for that neighbourhood.
don’t forget the worst part… THE HAT😳
Operator: Hang on, I'm sending in the national guard
I would wear a jacket and hat if I was staying outside for a prolonged period of time and it 67 Degrees. I absolutely LOVE how officers can establish some sort of reasonable suspicion and escalate it to probable cause on an anonymous call from a person who claims they live in the neighborhood. And please take note of time frame 4:19 ... "He won't identify himself as a suspicious person to investigate" ... ?????? WTF?????
"we investigated ourselves and found that we have not broken any policies" LOL
Equivalent to "I sucked myself off and concluded that I am, not gay"
“I graded my own test paper knowing I didn’t study and got a 100”
"We know we're in the wrong but fuck you"
That’s what’s wrong with police departments, they choose their own punishment which goes over a lot of peoples heads
Soemone please tell me he sued I need to know some social justice happened
He just literally got arrested for being black in a white neighborhood XD
Yeah he did hahaha. I would have just talked to the damn cop. His argument will never work. Not in that neighborhood with that fool.
Yes it's another sad day in America
I try not to see racism in everything like msm tries to project but this if the truth for sure
No one ever said anything about the color of his skin.
@@norflingtheconqueror462 my man is brain dead
The officer is stammering. He knows he's wrong
Yep and feels guilty hence the stammers. I agree.
That's complete nonsense. If he knew he was wrong, he wouldn't be doing it.
He thinks people need to listen to him. He's used to people listening to him. He knows how to handle three types of people: Those that treat him with respect and deference, those that flee, and those that attack. People that calmly tell him he has no right to stop them and just walk away blow his mind.
He's a fish out of water. That's why he's stammering.
@@Mythraen well said. your analyst was spot on!
And fat and a loser
@@FreePickCapper welcome to america
Imagine being this incompetent at any job. They might as well let teenagers in the force
citizen: knows their rights
cop: “ wHy ArE yOu bEiNg DifFiCuLt?!?”
Not Applicable prove this don’t throw around claims just cause you love the taste of boots.
Not Applicable Stop pulling stuff out of your ass.
@@chuckyiwantallthesmokeloza1211 Actually, I think some of the stuff he said was actually true. I'm not sure if it's the same guy. They both have the same name, but I think the case he's talking about occurred in Washington. However, that's irrelevant to how the police treated the man. They were awful to him.
Not Applicable Different person, different state bud & they didn’t even know who he is. So none of that would even matter.
@Not Applicable Keland Hill is the guy you are talking about... Keilon Hill is the guy in this video, they also look nothing alike... well they are both black but that is about it. It is sad that I am just grateful he didn't get beat up or end up dead, wrongfully arrested but not dead. But you should also consider removing your comment now that you know it is misinformation.
Crime: He didn't listen to me added with hurting my feelings with a side of ignoring my illegal orders.
+ trespassing, soliciting and obstruction of justice
@@staywoke2198 he did not solicitate though?
1UP Milk going door to door trying to sell shit is soliciting lol
@@staywoke2198 If you payed attention to the video you would know he was distributing political flyers and was not soliciting.
@@PiezPiedPy I really would wish that would also be for religions... Jehovah's Witnesses came to my door recently. I hope I broke their Worldview.
Basically the good old scenario...
"You're being arrested."
"For what?"
"Resisting an arrest."
"???????"
Or “we’ll figure that out in a minute”
That is racial profiling
What is this officer's name and house address
He needs to be fired and charged with harassing people and racial profiling
@@tremblence I looked it up, he resigned two weeks later.
@@tremblence if a call came in to 911 about a suspicious person, an officer has to respond to the call.
@Vada Minot seems people on this thread are retarded because some of them commented "why is the cop even there for a man sleeping in his car" BECAUSE WENDY EMPLOYEE CALLED THE COPS MORON. That's why. Sleeping in your car in the middle of the drive through lane is actually not "sleeping" it's passed out. Drunk or otherwise intoxicated as we found out in this case.
That second cop who suggested arresting him regardless in order to “dissuade dissent” the next time is vile. What a piece of trash. Why are people so supportive of a system that supports abusive behavior that is literally against the laws they’re supposed to uphold. It’s been said countless times, but you’re only as strong as your weakest link and these clowns are pretty cowardly.
Preach brother
Agreed. What a beady eyed weasel.
@Genocide is fun No we don't.
Agreed. The cops do more harm than good. Let state run militias handle policing. Defund the tax funded police.
Not all cops are bad, however, a lot of them let the power go to their head, or are just abusive. The cops where I live are very nice, polite, and don't do unnecessary stuff.
The officer sounds like a kid. I’m gonna arrest u for not listening to me. How childish
Edit: thanks for the likes and comments
Sounds like Dr. Steve Brule playing at being a cop for the day. FOR YOUR LAW!
The second cop that arrived was the biggest douche.
Unfortunately this is VERY common. In most police interactions there is a crime or a report of a crime, and thus police can legally detain and question people. But when there is no crime and by default, no investigation of a crime, I think police forget that people can choose to not interact with them and the officer feels like his authority as a LEO is in question and their ego takes over.
Someone clutching their pearls because they saw a black man on a public sidewalk and calling the police is incredibly racist. LEO's should recognize that fact and once they determine the person is not threatening, belligerent or intoxicated they need to wish him a good day and leave them alone.
All three cops look like they haven't hit 30 yet. No experience, no training, given a gun and a badge.
What I don't get though is.. Yeah, this was 99.99% called in via racial profiling. But if a cop was called on me for soliciting in a neighborhood as a white person, I would've cooperated with his questioning. And yes, I've seen neighbors call the cops for solicitors in my neighborhood. As soon as this guy disclosed he wasn't soliciting & it was political, this convo would've been over and cop would've been on his way. This didn't have to be difficult. I understand black dude's frustration but he could've gone the easy way. Innocence and openness will prevail 99.999999999% of the time
"Gets a big fat F for not knowing any laws..." Best line ever
Right?! I LOL’d so hard the moment I heard that 😂🤣
"you are a real fool sir" comes in second.
american police are the dumbest on earth. fbi are the smart ones
F-
those PIGs were all fat
He should have won 7.5 million dollars in the lawsuit, not a paltry $75k.
"you are suspicious because the hat you're wearing has a black man under it"
well said
😂
Best comment ever
@Melanin Queen Melanin Queen... That name is pretty racist. Cops don't even mention race as a reason, yet, here you are, singling yourself out. Lets have a big brain moment, yeah?
wrong
As long as cops can clear cops they will never be anything more than a gang.
It was designed specifically for that.
West Des Moines Police Street Gang
the decent cops should be ashamed of this shit, and maybe a few are.. but nobody does anything!!
they defend their brothers to the end, which makes them complicit.
Bad gang
@@KTGHATS a culture of no more good cops. It's war against the people...not crime fighting. Desecration of their own oaths, not service of Justice. Workers of iniquity, not an institution of Truth. Failed state, America
“Why am I being detained?”
Officer: “Because you’re not listening.”
HEAT- YEET is it right that you’ve to listen to the cop if he’s tryna talk to you without your consent
Lol, fuckin' funny.
The officer is literally a toddler🙄
Kamalpreet Singh He should have called 911 on the police.
God forbid if you're deaf.
It’s really sad that the people who were supposed to PROTECT and SERVE you does this to other individuals.
"He won't identify himself as the suspicious person I'm looking for."
Being arrested for wearing the “wrong attire” on a warmer day. That’s what I call fashion police.
Underrated comment
@MrCloudseeker you suspicious man. SWARM him !
Is it wrong I laughed at that comment?
was it the wrong jacket or skin?
I really wish I didn't laugh at this considering the situation, but lol
These officers need jobs at McDonald's.
Too stupid for that even.
Nope. I prefer illegals to get those $15/hour jobs.
They probably end up in a management position and telling customers "you have to order this not that or I'll call the police & say your suspicious"
Yea thats insulting to the good men and women at mcdonalds
That requires a bit of skill, that these dickheads don't have!
What’s really scary is the fact that the prosecutor took this bogus harassment of a public official all the way to TRIAL. I’m mean really?? What a waste of tax payer money.
"I'm detaining you for resisting detainment." LMAO
He was right about the cop being suspicious.
This young cop the second guy to show up was a complete embarrassment
He was straight up, a top notch dickhead. He knew NOTHING of the situation and acted like he was there from the get go. On top of that, he did NOT even care to find out what happened. All he did was ask the first cop what happened and was like "Yeah fuck that guy, arrest him. Walking away is a horrible crime!!".
Both should be sacked. Horrible, unprofessional, morons...
a fine example of "blue line thuggery".
M S Did you not know that cops usually have low iq? 😂😂
absolute power corrupts absolutely...
It should be a Class A felony (destruction of evidence) for police to mute or turn off cameras while in the field or durring investigation, or any conversations while in charge of arrestee. Obvious crimes are committed by cops when they take these actions.
"Need backup, I have a citizens who knows their natural rights"
Actually a citizen does not have the right to ignore a lawful command from a police officer.
@@shadowbanned5164 So where do your sympathies lie?
@@shadowbanned5164 a lawful command, correct. However, because an officer says so doesn't make it so, they have to obey their scope of law as well.
Giving law enforcement or government agencies or departments the right to make up laws on the spot is called ....
@@shadowbanned5164 are you stupid
@@shadowbanned5164 telling him to stop and talk to him isn’t a lawful order. Nobody is inclined to have to talk to anybody. And without any crime committed, he can ignore the cop as he pleases as the conversation is consensual
Operator: "911 what's your emergency"
Caller: "there's a black..."
Operator: "Say no more, we're on the way with lights and sirens".
Babayega X I’m fucking dead😭😭💀🙌🏾
Babayega X
😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Code 3
And the swat team and tanks
to be fair they answer most calls with lights and sirens... kinda the point of lights and sirens..
“You are a fool sir” a diss respectfully 😂
😂DISSrespect
"Why am I being arrested"
"Cause you hurt my precious feelings"
I’m just glad he didn’t shoot
SOUNDS JUST LIKE A LIBERAL !
@@offaxisdude 😑
@@offaxisdude Conservatives take offense at people kneeling during a song, criticizing their religion, or protesters . . . yknow, the liberals that take offense when cops do this kind of unlawful shit.
@@NymbusCumulo928 false. Kneeling is disrespect towards the roots of this country. People take offense to others criticizing what they believe because they have a right to, when they're being harassed for what they believe and being persecuted to the point that they can't live the same life as others. Also, the "protesters" that you're referring to ARE NOT FUCKING PROTESTERS! THEY'RE RIOTERS! They murder people/children on the streets, they wreck businesses and loot them, they vandalize countless buildings, and they were ignored until the polls shifted away from the left and THAT'S when the left criticized the violence. You clearly are too mind warped by the media to believe any truth so I won't bother saying any more to you.
It's ridicilous that he was charged with harassment of a public official, when he is the one actively trying to leave, while being followed and harassed by a public official
"he wont identify himself as a suspicious person" direct quote from officer....
Colm O'driscoll no crime has been committed, you do not have to identify yourself or give any information upon an order by law enforcement or any other person unless a crime has been committed
Did you watch the video?
I think it's funny that you're trying to establish some dominance here when were both on the same side. I was quoting the officer because what he was saying was ridiculous... your condescending "did you watch the video" comment was unwarranted and ignorant. yes I watched the video, how would I have quoted him directly had I not watched it. the above quote should have showed you that I'm aware no crime was committed...
did you read my comment at all or just immediately take offense at some non existent stance. the 35 people that liked my comment obviously new that I was not at all on the officers side...
@Help_im_HigH ' lol thank you... naturally what I was saying just in shorter words
@@ThatRandomAsain Uh, that's why the officer is there, to make sure and investigate whether or not it's going on. Fuckin backwards world you live in, cops aren't mind readers.
@@iskralyapunova8351 The least the officer could of did was talk to the guy like a regular citizen instead of treating him like a criminal before asking for identification.
It’s so good you upload and out these cops I hope they watch this and realize how wrong and ignorant they are.
Internal investigations need to be done by either the state certifying agency that grants local police powers of arrest or the federal government. End qualified immunity.
Totally agree. I am so angry and offended for this young man.
Please end it, this is why they treat us like ish
"You are a real fool, sir" cracked me up
cops pride ......
Mr. T lol!
It should be against the law for police to investigate themselves when they break the law.
minio rivera 👍 citizen based oversight police committees are the only answer absolutely!
Amazing how conflict of interest does not apply to police investigating police. That has to stop.
U finally get one right still won't subscribe to ur channel
John Zapien that implies that you consistently watch his videos, which counts towards his views. Plus you comment on them which also adds to the TH-cam algorithms. But, oh no! You’ll never subscribe. He’s also gotten many right and the fact that cities had to pay citizens for many of the police encounters he’s audited is, in fact, fact that’s he’s right
"You're a fool, sir" 😂
When ever an officer is caught on camera like that. Not knowing, or disobeying the laws. They should be striped of their badge. And sent back to cadet school to learn their laws!! No pay!!! loss of any seniority!! And no vacation time!! Also those body cameras should be turned on at the start of a shift by a registered officer in charge at the station. And shut off only at the end of the shift by a registered officer at the station!! No more covering up plots! Or mistakes!
Yeah will never happen i doubt they turn the cameras on and off as they please far as ive seen and heard. Its Bullshit too
Should be fired.
send back to cadet school? If you're to stupid to get the most basic laws of the laws you need to UPHOLD you're just to stupid to even be a cop. Just lose the badge en never be able to be a cop again
bpgoa if a cop doesn’t know the law he shouldn’t be enforcing it. If they fuck up they should be fired. No excuses.
@@ChristianLopez-lm9zn exactly what i meant :)
“We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong”
And now this fat fuck can continue pushing around innocent civilians to stroke his fragile ego; no lesson is learned and no change is made.
Makes me sick!
even if the police investigate the police and find the police guilty of wrongdoing, the general taxpaying public is issued the fine
Its such bull shit! When are Americans going to wake up?!!
Damnright!
*POLICE NEVER SHOULD INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES*
KENT ROBINSON we need citizen review boards that have grand jury powers to indict dirty cops.
@@SavageAudits we do its called a jury dumbass
Should be a conflict of interest
@@Frdmunoz06 bruh....wr need a specific board to judge cops independently from the system that protects them from this shit...cause they jus keep getting away with this and im tired of warning my two sons 12 and 11 yrs old how to act and speak in from of the ppl that's supposed to protect them..its not right in anyway
@@Frdmunoz06 Juries can't start investigations. Citizen Review Boards can, dumb ass.
This could have gone:
Officer: "Hey, some Karen called in a "suspicious person. What're you up to?"
Hoodie Guy: "I'm handing out campaign fliers."
Officer: "Have a nice day."
It all boils down to "you will respect my authority!:
Lol. South Park! Best comment.
And ego, just remember it's all because he hurt the cops feelings.
@@nowthisis2stupid infinite thumbs up 👍
"Because you're not listening" is said about 100 times. Little known fact: most states have secretly passed statutes against hurting an officer's feelings.
Lol, yeah that must be it!
Please tell me that's sarcasm...
@@miscellaneousmedia3753 it is.
@John Merchant Absolutely not. Take that violent talk somewhere else. This police department should be reformed to respect civil liberties and root out racism, and society changed so that nobody calls the cops when a black guy is sharing literature door to door. Nothing about this calls for killing anyone.
Go be a cop for one day, and see how easy it is. Someone called. They come up and the guy is dressed like a burglar on a sunny day, he's acting elusive and dismissive and not even making eye contact.Then he starts walking away and ignoring the officer who is actually doing his job and reacting to a call. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!
"Sir, someone called about a black man blacking blackily."
Yep. Infuriating.
100%
stfu
@@daninphoenix6851 a hit dog will holler
@@StygianStilettosGamer lmao smartass
Love how this channel breaks down everything wrong by state and federal law. A lot of times we see these videos and know it’s wrong but don’t know the exact laws or reasons. Some of my favorite content on TH-cam although I feel bad for the victims and the harassment they have to endure
We should start calling the police whenever we see suspicious looking officers in our neighborhood.
good one
"There is a suspicious being around my house." When the cops arrive: "yeah, he has four legs, jumps on my roof and says 'meow'"
Suspicious postman.
Lol
I’ve done this lol
I know this cop, he once he arrested a deaf person because he couldn't listen to him.
yung kennyy It was a joke
Nice. Hilarious!!!
Stop playing lol
say u swear to god
@@KayBanks059 I swear on your life
If he doesn't sue, this was a waste of time.
How do you think he got this video footage mate? Its subpoenad for the purpose of a civil lawsuit against the pd/state council
@@dannyfergusson3243 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Danny Fergusson well that’s not necessarily true. Freedom of information act allows anyone to obtain these types of videos. Now with TH-cam, a whole lot more “average joes” are requesting & posting these body cam videos & interrogations. There does not need to be any intention of court proceedings in order to get this video. But you probably know all this lol
You're a waste of life.
I read that he got $75,000 for his troubles.
"He won't identify himself as a suspicious person" You couldn't make it up😂
lmfao that lo-key went over my head, but I remember hearing that now, xD jeez....sounds like it's out of a cartoon or a comedy movie
@Clorox Bleach
What? You're out of order..lol
Saying it like that means the exact same thing and will have the exact same result of idiocy.
"Suspicious" must be clearly articulated and demonstrated before an arrest or lawful order can be made. The "CRIMINAL" asked countless times and did not receive a justifiable response that warranted an ID check, an arrest and more importantly, gave this impotent cop any jurisdiction... which can only be obtained if a crime has, is being or about to be committed, without which he's just another bum on the street. If we did this it would result in kidnapping charges. This was profiling, racism, harrassment, threats, assault, false imprisonment and the denial of rights, freedoms and liberties on the "SUSPECT" and a complete violation of the Constitution this muppet took an oath to uphold. .. no matter what order it was in... The cop was the idiot.. the idiot was the cop.
@Clorox Bleach
Btw, you did say the cop said it WRONG, proceeded to changed the order of what he said to make it RIGHT because that's "what he meant".. according to you...it was the moral of your entire story you muppet..
@Clorox Bleach
Bahahaha... good for you. Doing your bit... Bahaha😂😂
@Clorox Bleach
You called me an @ss a moron and a dingbat for what? I didn't insult you personally at all.. reported and blocked??? You are hilarious and everyone can see just how full of crap you are. Love it, thank you for this gift.. bahaha
Imagine that call to arrest him
Caller: yeah there's a guy in a jacket
Police department: oh my God that sick bastard
Hahaha, brilliant
You don't know that this guy wasn't doing anything to warrant a 911 call
@@iTreyyHD the title is officers illegally arrested
@@greatsaiyaman9744 ok and?
You forgot to mention it's a black person in a jacket....lol
"You're a suspicious person in a hat and jacket." = "You're black."
That lady walking her dog in the back had a jacket on as well. She wasn't detained.
Damn right!
She was prob white
I wear hoodies year round
@@takoda100 Same, they're usually black hoodies too and I live in Florida
He is black in a white neighborhood. It's super illegal in America!
At 3:28, you can hear how nervous the officer becomes, he is flustered!
"have i broken any laws?"
"that's not the point"
i-
But hes right. Hes detaining him.
@@GUITARTIME2024 he asked if he was being detained and he said no so he could leave. Regardless to be detained they need a reason and being suspicious isn’t a reason
@@GUITARTIME2024 so if a cop illegally detains you first, then he is right.
@@SomeKata there is no "illegally detain". There is "detain while police are figuring out the situation". Its a basic right they have. It would be unsafe if officers were not able to do this. A traffic stop is actually an example of this. Detain doesn't mean arrest.
@@venadero10 being suspicious is grounds for a temporary detaining (within reason). The officer just confused the situation.
He is laughing while being arrested, he can already smell the money. 😂🤣😂
He shoulda said, " Officer I'm about to go for a run, you running with me" and took off.... just so he could chase and talking him while having no justification to do so. THAT woulda made him a lot of money in court. Especially if he got injured.
@@trinitycarroll256 while having no justification to do so? This person refuses to answer questions about the call, which gives the officer reason to stop him, since he doesn’t know if he has or hasn’t committed a crime yet, and since he’s walking away, it make it look like he has. Lawsuits are some of the worst things that happen in courtrooms, since they don’t determine laws they dint carry the same weight, which can result in some really stupid shit. Such as, I spilled hot coffee on myself, give me money, and I ran away from a police officer and refused to cooperate in his investigation and I deserve money since I got arrested fir that. My point being, lawsuits that go through do not have the same effect as a criminal court case. So this little lawsuit can be unjust and still get this person money.
@@henryalley8609 He already identified what he was doing. There was no crime. If you're stopped by a cop and they don't have any probable causes as to why they are stopping you, you can walk away.
@@Hardemantv You can? Well, this video shows differently.
@@MrTruckerf in this video, the cop is completely in the wrong. Merry Christmas.
"I won't tell you to stop again"
"And what will you do if I don't?"
"I'll detain you."
"For what?"
"Not letting me detain you."
????
Is this a new law on their books. “Not listening to me”. This is the real reason. I’ll detain you For what? You are in a white neighborhood and you are black sir wearing a black jacket and hat. Your kind are not allowed in this neighborhood so I am going to arrest you. This officer is clearly a big fat racist. This officer was not fired. Not only should this officer had been fired so should this city’s police chief because all three officers do not know the law and were not trained by this police department. You cannot detain someone if they have not committed a crime.
@@dphotos007 it's west des moines everyone there is suburban white and old or spoiled you expect no racism there lmfaooo
@@Disproved u got a point
Oblivion dialouge
reminds me of the consent to search loophole
12:25 Officer: "So what's the issue here man?"
"I don't know, you tell me."
The officer has failed to mention what the probable cause, or the "suspicion" is.
I'm arresting you
For wearing a HAT.
Let that sink in
And winter attire.
i disagree with you both. Those things made him a suspicious person, plus the handbills and they are why Dispatch sent an officer out to investigate. But what got him arrested was exactly what the officer kept saying over + over at the end when the guy asked him "Why are you arresting me?" - he always answered "Because you are not listening to me!!". All I could think was, buddy, just wait until your kids are teenagers, you better learn to get over yourself or they'll be in those not-listening arresting cuffs too!
@@heidikickhouse- Buddy, the police are not our parents, they are not our authority. They are our servants, they listen to us until duty calls on them to do otherwise. It's clear that their training in this case did not include any legal knowledge of how to detail a person under suspicion, and when to let someone go after it is clear the person had, has, or is not about to commit a crime. I hope everyone sticks up under the police misconduct so we can further understand their corruption and actually make change to better it.
Heidi Kickhouse he’s telling a man he’s a suspicious person and he’s investigated just because somebody’s opinion that lived on the street
Heidi Kickhouse police aren’t allowed to do what he did
I pray that this young man sue the hell out of these cops and file the complaint against both of the cops
@The One shut the fuck up you child.
@@oakley3815 his mom duh
@@oakley3815 Never rely on the police to help you with anything. LE is a reactionary force often too late or too incompetent to prevent anything. Being prepared and defending yourself is the only guarantee of your safety.
I've watched a bunch of these videos recently and the common theme across all of them is that all these officer are on huge ego/power trips, and then escalate the situation when law-abiding citizens don't put up with their abuse of authority. The need to be held accountable.
I agree. I’ve seen so many of these videos where these power tripping cops act like this. They can’t stand it when someone knows more than them. I would love to see them all get held accountable but I don’t think it’ll happen unfortunately. I’m a female (contrary to those who call me ‘sir’ or ‘bro’ on here lol I’m not a hater though because I choose to look like this lol) and I had a male officer throw me against his patrol car and got so close to me while screaming in my ear that I felt his penis against my behind. Someone told him someone had warrants but he automatically zeroed in on me when it wasn’t me! I don’t get this type of bully.
This is so so true, it TRUELY bothers me that still agencies are hiring these type of police officers…there should be mandatory classes and training to maintain their egos and use common sense but most important learn to NOT GET JADED!!! Start every interaction giving every person the benefit of not judging them based on ur previous interactions and get better at DEESCALATING situations instead of ESCALATING THEM!!!! Come on it’s 2021 when will things CHANGE?!? Ggggrrrrrr 😡
@Stuey Rubble remember that cop that stayed outside the school as an active shooter mercilessly killed children?..... yup.....
This is why they get so uppidt when they have any interaction that isn't met with refnence or submissivness from the citizen. Even just having a smile on their face will lead the cop to ask 'whats with the attitude' so they can try to provoke the citizen more.
makes me wonder what all these idiot police officers are actually thinking inside their minds when they're getting schooled on laws and rights by a civilian. unless they are actually unknowledgeable, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.