Odin Lite & Odin Pro Teardown - Reparability / DIY Mods / Upgrades
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a teardown video of the Odin Lite and the Odin Pro gaming handhelds. In this video, we look at the hardware of both devices, discuss reparability, and go over a few DIY mods and upgrades that you can do on the handheld.
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Odin is repair-friendly.
If you're able to possibly source the parts.
Need gameplay of odin light
@@colt45jb Yeah would be nice to see some Odin Lite gameplay, or a brief overview of it's Android 11 for emulation. I know retail units are not ready, but the prototypes are. I'm still deciding whether the Lite is sufficient or if I need to boost to the Base/Pro, but it's difficult without a comparison.
Any idea where to acquire the LED strip?
Is there 4g capabilities on either versions of Odin. In your video you show a slot for a sim card on the light version and even mention the area where the 4g antenna would go. However you do not explain if you could add an antenna or not. Some clarification on both models would be great to know. Thanks for the awesome video.
Really nice to see that they even went as far as to make sure that battery availability is given, even if its not from them directly.
Except that battery is 3750mah not 6000...
where can we get a new battery from?
I tried the battery replacement using the Nintendo one.Now my Odin cannot charge it. It only worked while the brand new battery original charge lasted. 😢
Hi. How did you connect it since they have different connections? My lite battery is swollen so i really want to replace it. Ty. @MrGranMarco
Great breakdown! It’s nice to see the lite and pro motherboards side by side. And that a great theory about the shoulder buttons, and seeing it side by side with the switch design proves it. I hope AYN will account for this on their next device 😏
no, the fan directly on top would be worse .. this blower style fan is designed to push air across the finnstack, putting it right above would mean the processor heats up the fan, and thats it .. this design is already good, better would have only been a heatpipe radiator deal
I dropped my Odin Pro and the L1 button broke (specifically, the contact on the PCB board). I sent Ayn an email asking if I could send it in for replacement and they sent me an “upgrade kit” containing both boards, shoulder buttons, ribbon cables, and even a screwdriver.
I’m honestly surprised how easy this was to fix, coming from someone who’s never tried replacing one of these boards before. Also thanks for the teardown video it helped a lot with getting mine swapped without destruction.
Thanks for the great video Taki. Do you have any updated info on the L1R1 button situation, are Ayn still shipping units with old buttons or are they now using updated button mechanics? Their update on Friday was good but lacking details.
Ils ont corrigé le problème depuis 1 an et ils sont très rapides à répondre à un mail (10 minutes) et après avoir grillé mon écran en allumant la console, ils m'ont demandé d'envoyer une vidéo et la preuve de commande et une pièce d'identité scannée et ils m'ont offert l'écran neuf et les frais de port. Service clients 👌👍
Hi Taki, any luck in swapping the A/B and X/Y buttons for xbox layout?
From what I have observed most of the switches unde L1 and R1 came broken from factory and thats due to negligence or rushing during assembly. If the the plastic trigger button is not placed properly from an angle and one side first it would not sit on top of the tiny black switch, instead it will apply pressure from side of the switch which if pressed under the trigger will bend the switch toward front of the device thus breaking it. It will still work but only with more pressure applied on trigger switch which will lapse with time rendering it unuseable completely eventually. It is a design flaw and quality issue. Im affected by this unfortunately and have not been able to enjoy my device.
Same here brother, it's a real shame too. I tried my best to make the l1 switch work but no dice. I reslly hope AYN hooks us up with replacement boards, as this is a complete oversight in their part
AYN Update guys, curious if they handled it since I'm wondering about the Odin too hmm
@@retrobros9684 yes they fixed it problem I'm their next iteration, they tweaked the design of switch and it's housing. Older model received new switches and boards newer models had update build.
Taki, AYN seems to really know their stuff when designing console hardware. Since you worked closely with them, maybe you can answer this: Who are these guys? Where did they come from? Do they have a "mother" company or investor backing the project?
I hope he does an interview with Andy I believe?(Odin handheld project head?) On his channel.
Like he did with Retroid project lead, Michael I believe?
They have to have someone backing with money or the guy behind the company is quite rich. The development, manufacturing and distribution of the device didn't cost less than $5M USD given they need to make 10,000 units for a launch at the very least. Of course that if you tried to do this in USA, it would cost at least double, but probably triple that amount.
Yeah. They seem like they know what they are doing. I'm curious too. I wonder if it's like a OnePlus situation where they are basically owned by OPPO.
@@StatusQuo209 or OneXPlayer/OneNetbook which is a VOYO subsidiary.
@@AlexDiaz-gw5ov there are also some rumors that they are gonna launch a DIY OLED version that is CM4/Zero 2 compatible. So for all I know, they might know a thing or two about DIY handhelds like Geekpi or Experimental Pi.
Taki I would like to ask if you could make a video comparing Odin base and Odin pro. I really would like to known if the money difference is really worth it. Big fan of your reviews!
I know you may not have an Odin lite but it seems unreasonably confusing to use a prototype with a different layout and parts to show how to repair it.
Hey Taki, awesome stuff as always. Big supporter of yours here. Keep up the great work man
My only concern with buying one of these is the L1 R1 shoulder button issue. It looks as though before I even start using the device that I should remove the rear housing on the unit and make sure the plastic shoulder buttons are installed correctly, and avoid using excessive force to prevent breaking the PCB side component.
I remember seeing this upload and thinking “why would I ever need to know this much about to the console…” so I skipped it. Cut to me having spilled coffee on my new Odin, grateful that this teardown exists so I can clean it with isopropyl alcohol 😭
Thanks Taki, your video teardown helped me understand why my R2 button stopped working. Looks like the Hall sensor you mentioned fell off. I'm wondering if they will replace the controller pcb board.
Would have been nice if the front cover over the controls was removable on each side instead of having to go through the back. Most of the repairs or mods people make on these systems is on the buttons. It is nice that the buttons have their own PCBs though. I hope some custom PCBs are in the works. Imagine having a Gamecube button configuration on the right side that you could install, that would be cool!
Update 30, then we get a teardown as a guide that's what I like.
Fantastic video! Thanks for this great analysis 👍 Too bad the shoulder buttons will be vulnerable.
As someone coming from Gamecube controller modding, the way the Odin handles analog triggers is LEAGUES better, even conceptually. Having a magnet giving precise readings is far superior to a physical slider that has to be housed within the shell. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard, given the right firmware, to adjust the trigger's actuation point (as opposed to NGC where you have to physically alter the triggers).
Careful, the magnet broke easily when I dropped my system.
Taki, help! I noticed there's 4 antenna connectors on the Odin Lite. Do you know what those U.FL connectors are connected to? Is 1 pair connected to the LTE chip and 1 pair by the GPS??
Did you ever find this out? I’m curious about the cellular antenna and can’t find any info…
@@SargeMustang I did, I also bought 2 different 5g antennas, and I'm pretty sure they work fine. The problem is that I believe there is a baseband issue, or MediaTek D900 does not operate the same 5g bands as T-Mobile or Verizon in the USA. I tried both, and only the T-mo would connect to 5g, but it would pop in and out of 5g a LOT with all 3 different antennas if I was indoors. So much that it was battery drain. To be fair, the 4g works just fine. I was able to make calls, text, and use data around 300+ Mbps on MINT. Right now they have their buy 3 get 3 months free deal, and I'm using it to type this. If you use it on the go, turning on 5g while outdoors seems to work much better, even with the stock antenna. I did have to mess with the APN settings to get it working properly to begin with though.
@@seouljah760 huh that’s really interesting… I’m using T-Mobile myself and my specs and signal are so bad I was hoping I could get some better performance if I upgraded antennas. For instance, sitting here with my iPhone and when switched down to lte I’m pulling 129 down, 5g breaks 300. But the Odin is just sitting on edge…
Quick tip I wouldn’t slide the spudger/pick when levering it open, it will damage the edges of the shell.
I can’t really imagine something as soft as a pick would cause any noticeable damage to the shell.
@@RichBordoni I used one of those plastic spudgers designed to help take apart cases, and yeah it scraped a small part of the seam a small bit. It is so tightly joined that any tiny scrape or deformity to the edge is noticeable, very minor but less than perfect (Only will happen from sliding down the seam action)
@@BrokenOpus Interesting, I will have to keep that in mind for when I get my Odin.
Just wondering, the the “abxy” buttons custom to the Odin, or do they use buttons similar to another company?
Any issues with your Odin lite? Mine just started playing up after a few weeks use. The screen is registering a crazy amount of false touches and sometimes flickering
can you change the ram out yourself if you open up the odin lite or base? im wondering if its like some laptops where you can easily swap it out because i happen to have an extra 8 gb stick of ram from an old computer, so if its easy to swap i might buy the lite or base and just switch the ram my self.
I wonder if ayn plans on putting a 4g antenna on the production lite? I saw in the indiegogo campaign update they had gotten 4g working but no mention on adding an antenna.
As I leave my Odin in Xbox mode, would love a dedicated guide to swapping abxy around to match Xbox mode
Same!
I think I would be pissed if the lite doesn't have a fan. There is nothing I've seen to say that it can get away without one.
Is there a possibility Odin will release updated PCB's rather than buying a brand new device when they refresh the SoC?
I don't own an AYN (and probably won't until they have an OLED model), but I am very impressed by their design philosophy.
Ils ont le meilleur système de service après vente. Mon écran a grillé et ils m'ont proposé de m'offrir le nouvel écran et les frais de port après avoir eu la preuve vidéo du problème. Et j'ai du fournir des preuves d'achat....👌
Would this be on the Odin Base model that’s meant to ship on Aug? I just ordered one via AYN website today
my odin lite has a slight pressure spot on the screen close to the plastic housing.. i wonder if i take it apart and loosen some screws or something i could eliminate the problem
That was a great (dis)assembly lesson. Learned a lot!
Thank you for the odin's videos. one question that i have. I bought the lite for play cloud games. do you think the lite will finally come with mobile data because the prototype has a sim slot??. At the updates 2 and 17 they leave a window open for that. Thank you again
Cheers Taki, interesting insight.
I've been watching your videos and getting interested, but there are no sales outside of indiegogo.
Taki you can test shooter and FPS games like code Mobile, Pubg Mobile, Apex Mobile, Cube and PS2 games like Call Of Duty, medal Of honor, brothers in arms, 007 agent. Make these tests for us who like shooting games. thank you very much for your attention.
Taki-rig everything
Changed the thermal pads today!
So beside the L1 R1 buttons, its a solid handheld design wise? :P
Thanks for this very informative 🙂
is it possible to replace the internal storage or is it like soldered down on the mainboard? i cant find this info anywhere online ): i imagine theres an m.2 ssd somewhere inside... im wondering: is it upgradeable (in the diy sense) ? and if so, is there a capacity limit?
Came to see if I can swap the X Y A B buttons, why did you teardown anything but that part?
Could you do a video on upcoming retro handhelds
I'd been wondering if this device had a Sim card slot since I first heard about it. Knowing it does, that means I could use this as my phone if I wanted to.
But does it have a microphone?
@@noonethatspecial I think I saw it mentioned in another video that it does. Even if it doesn't, though, it has bluetooth capability, so you can use a headset.
@@harmsc12 that's fair.
Are there any joystick mods at all. To make the sticks larger and taller, in any way..
you should do a video on the minisforum um700, roughly equivalent to the steam deck
looking forward to odin 2 teardown
Taki, yo! Do you have a video on how to remove windows 11 from the odin pro?? 😅Thanks I'm lost. I just want a guide on how to make it back to pure android.
friend I have a question to this console you can put another hard drive with greater capacity and another larger memory
Hey dude, where can I purchase one of these?
My pro front shell started cracking so Ayn sent me a new front shell with screen attached. Will the side leds and power/volume button ribbons come out easily with heat? I see theyre attached to the shell with adhesive and Im afraid of tearing them when switching over to the new shell...
Hi taki im wandering can you change the abxy buttons position on the shell to match nintendo?
Where's the Odin 2 teardown andwhen are you designing a new Retroid?
I took my pro apart, gives me a bit of piece of mind knowing how to fix something since I'm fairly tech savvy.
a question friend, can I change the hard drive to this console and put a larger memory in it, can it help?
I am going to really regret my decision to buy the Odin Lite with upgraded ram and storage if it doesn't come with a fan. It seems disengenious to have the fan shown right after the spec sheet of all 3 devices on the IGG if only 2 of the models will come with fan. For this reason, I never even considered that the Lite would not have a fan. If indeed it doesn't come with a fan I might as well sell my device as soon as it comes in because it most certainly will not be able to do everything that I bought it for without a fan.
I also had the lite backed and after seeing these videos I regretted it so emailed ayn and they were about to refund the lite so I could order the pro instead.
@@jer0006 did ayn confirm there is no fan for the lite model? that is sad because i have to lose the super fan perk because their listing is inaccurate
@@topg4489 I never saw anything other than the tear down that taki did. After seeing his videos I cancelled my lite and switched to a pro though. I would say there's a good chance there's no fan as they would have to do something to differentiate it more.
@@jer0006 I'll probably wait till Friday. See what the team has to say but it seems likely that I'm switching to the Base or Pro
Thanks for demystifying the internals for us tech semi-illiterates! Great to see it's modular inside.
Quick question when I buy a odin pro shell does it includes the screen?
when an Odin lite review and comparison ? :)
'But i like living on the edge' LOLLLL
Bro am from Nepal please make a video on how to install windows 11 in android 💜💙 without PC
It'd be cool if you did a video on the Odin lite performance both windows and android
Odin lite can't do Windows like the Pro. The Pro is taking advantage of a chipset that is very close to the one used in some Qualcomm windows laptops.
You are right but I'd still want to see how the lite performs with emulation on android
You can still try x86 apps with exagear and there some termux based solutions out there. Also I know some people are working on bringing Box86 over to android hopefully we get a release sometime soon.
Are they using the same analog sticks that are in joycons?
Hi Taki and watchers, I see that a lot of views are about the battery 05:37 My battery on my Pro is swollen. I want to replace it. When I put a new Switch Lite battery, will the Odin be able to read the correct % of charging of the new battery?... Any help someone?
wich is the strongest odin on the market and whats the name because am kinda confused with all these had held devices
I in the market for a handheld for travelling, but I am so torn between the Odin Pro and a Steam deck. Very different systems but trying to wrap my head around which system I would get more use out of.
Steam Deck!!!!
If your focus is retro gaming and portability, Odin. If you want more modern games and something that is a LOT bigger to pack around, go Steam Deck. Bot systems stream everything extremely well.
@@rhinous1199 Steam Deck!!!!
why would anyone put 3000mah battery in odin when odin has 6000
Any word on the antenna setup? I popped my lite open but only saw the WiFi ones
Emulation tests comparisons, pretty please.
Does it have internal upgradable storage by any chance?
Is there any possible way that I can send my Odin and can you do a screen replacement
I was playing super Mario for wii on dolphin emulator. Now when I try it says extension controller not supported. I'm using odin pro. Do you know fix?
Does the odin pro also have the SIM card slot?
Taki created odin
I wanted to see how easy it is to switch the ab and xy buttons so it matches xbox config
Do the transparent models come without the LED’s?
Yes
My Odín had stopped working. Turns out it was the battery that had become unplugged
Sounds like he's got a retail Odin Lite... What's the hold up on the content?
Onde consigo comprar uma bateria simular ou paralela que funcione no Odin pro? A minha estudou.
Inchou
0:36 is incorrect - for the device to come undone without a screwdriver, simply boot up Space Invaders Atari 2600 on the Odin and the screws automatically unwind and the system falls apart, leaving a hands-free opening experience (but also the possibility of a fried board and components inside).
Omg, this trolled me.
@@TakiUdon just providing accurate information for the patrons, thats all! !
The problem is that you can’t legally install Space Invaders Atari 2600 unless you own a copy of the original cartridge. I mean, those are practically impossible to find and very expensive when you do.
Have you swapped the abxy buttons to Xbox lay out
hey taki, any chance of getting exagear running on odin?
I think there won't be a cooling fan in the Lite version due the design of the PCB. That is a shame because the lite version already don't have displayport output (and I didn't order a dock because of that).
How do you configure motion controls on dolphin
Hey all. I just recived my Odin pro and noticed a lot of backlight bleeding on the left hand side. I've reached out to ayn and am waiting on a reply. Anyone have any ideas on how to possibly fix this?
...the Lite not only runs a Mediatek chip for some reason even though it was pitched as the "199$ Snapdragon Handheld", but it lacks active cooling when it was said TO HAVE IT? And the Dimensity 900 running HOTTER than the SD845?
The heatsink looks incredibly confusing too. Why on earth is most of it vestigial and not touching the chips?
What is the market goal for this? The Pro (which is what was ACTUALLY advertised and yet costs far more than the listed original price) is 250$ *at least* and in reality it will be higher now due to shipping/etc. It's encroaching way too close to the 399$ Steam Deck.
The actual device is priced fairly as far as I can tell, as actual high-end companies who can get wholesale stuff/etc. wouldn't even be able to put together a device this solid or speced for 250$, it's stronger than most 250$ smartphones, for instance.
Android and ARM can't hope to compare to Windows/Linux and x86 in terms of gaming.
It's also pitching itself on repair friendliness, but who's supplying the parts? If it's AYN, shipping and sourcing may be an issue. I don't think it is them though as Taki made it a point to keep showing alternative parts you can use, like Switch batteries (which will be in production probably for longer than WE are alive with how popular it is), Vita D-Pads, etc. Screen may be an issue to source. That probably has to come from AYN?
one question ¿you can upgrade the memory ram to 16gb?
No.
The Best handheld so far:-
• Low cost. ✔️
• Fan Cooling. ✔️
• Repairability.✔️
• Runs Android and Windows OSs.✔️
• Pocket size.✔️
• LED analogue sticks.✔️
• Availability. ❎
• Bass speakers. ✔️
• Dock mode/ HDMI output/ External GameCube controller and USB ports. ✔️
• Better Battery life. ✔️
• Headphone Jack. ✔️
• Good Processor. ✔️
• Less throttling. ✔️
• External HDD support. ✔️
@@Zenik506 For that price, it's a good bargain, actually the dock is not that bad either.
I’d say the only 2 pieces of feedback for me would be some improvements to the launcher, put the default buttons in abxy like an Xbox, and improve the rumble motor. A fantastic device
@@MrBrandonbarlow you can change the buttons to Xbox.
@@Zenik506 my thoughts also. If I have to spend 5 mins reconfiguration for each emulator. You can buy any USB C dock and it will do the same for less then 50 dollars
Pocket sized is debatable
please sir odin lite gameplay footage since ayn doesn't even bother
But can you upgrad RAM capacity
Any update and changes yet
Great console, but right now Is a beat risky buying 1. Probably soon or later the Odin pro Need a parts like display, battery, padnor buttons... So of i Need bto repair the Odin where to buy replacements? Spending 300 or more euro for a Great console, for me Is a bad choice
Does anybody knows which micro SD size is supported for an odin lite?
Where is the internal storage?
Kinda think the face buttons of the Odin looks much worse than the RG552...not so premium with just surface painting...
So, would anyone have any idea why the Odin Pro's screen would suddenly stop working? I just got mine about 2 weeks ago and the screen won't turn on/flickers different shades of black. It still charges but that's all it can do and yes, I've tried booting it into safety mode with the volume and power button combo, but the black screen still shows regardless. Any help would be appreciated.
Did they or you get it resolved? Asking cause I'd like to know how they handled it, as a potential customer here, thx
@@retrobros9684 Nope. Tried to fix it myself about a month ago and the thing caught on fire. Funny thing is, after that happened, AYN contacted me about an hour later. lol
Tax/Fee are no bueno. I didn't know Odin was Chinee.
Odin Pro Teardown on 7:02
Wouldn't it be great if the CPU's were replaceable like in desktops
coming soon in 2050😂
@@seifou_00
I can be patient.
So you can't actually buy the Odin yet? I don't understand the whole indiegogo thing, I'd rather them just put the thing on Amazon or their own website...
So it's cheap construction.