Jackpot was also in 4 during the final boss, but you needed to be in DT and land the final hit using Nero’s buster. This also returned for DMC5, and in both cases it was super satisfying.
Coming back to this video, I noticed something interesting in Vergil's last scene in DMC 3. There's a nuance that's barely noticeable in his last scene. While he sounds confident in himself about to fight 'the prince of darkness', notice he threw away his scabbard. Completely uncharacteristic of Vergil, who's most elegant and always sheaths his Yamato immediately after use. According to old Eastern swordsman code, there is never EVER a reason for one to toss their scabbard . . . unless the wielder feels it will be the last time they can. In other words, if they think this fight will mean their death. Seeing as how DMC 3 was obsessed with subtle body language in all of its cutscenes, this had to have been intentional. It's almost as if, despite his vow of confidence, Vergil knows deep down that this will be his last real fight before his end. For anyone that already played DMC 1 and is aware he becomes Nelo Angelo makes it even sadder. This was such a perfect way to end this concise saga of Dante's brother
Fun fact: When you fight Beowulf, none of Dante's weapons do any extra damage to him. But if you're playing as Vergil, Yamato will do extra damage because it's considered a dark weapon.
I think it shouldn't be understated just how important Vergil is to character action games and other action games too. He's really what solidified the rival character as a staple of the genre. He's also perhaps the best one ever created.
Meh, Pokemon rivals are shallow as a puddle. Garry whole character is being a dick, and while it is a good motivation for the player to face him and emerge victorious, the lack of anything else just makes him look 1 dimensional with a protagonist that is zero dimensional.
The writing in DMC3 doesn't really get as much credit as it deserves. Sure it's by no means a masterpiece of video game writing or anything but the character development for the three main characters is suprisingly subdued as far as action games go. To me this is the perfect type of writing for this kind of game, the gameplay is ridiculous and over the top and for the most part so is the story but sometimes there is a little bit of humanity poking through all of the ridiculous action.
"Everyone likes to say that Devil May Cry games are just about crazy nonsense, but this game deserves more credit than that." Glad to hear someone acknowledge that the character building for some of the main cast in DMC3 was portrayed well enough for emotional investment. Sure, the story and a majority of the dialogue is made of ham and cheese (purposely so, I would suspect), but there are a number of sincere moments that help solidify characters such as Vergil.
I never noticed that before and I've watched that cutscene thousands of times. It's fucking adorable (and sexy. can I have crushes on fake people? I've decided I'm having a crush on a fake person)
This is one of the reasons why when people say "the story in devil may cry games don't matter" I just shake my head cause that story is what gives us emotional investment in what's happening and enforces gameplay.
Also another interesting bit to point out; the player works as a physical metaphor for Dante's human side. His demonic power is accessed through the controller and is always there, but his drive to continue going through each stage, confront each boss or retry when losing all your HP . You, as a human, care about what is happening in the game so you continue to push Dante forward through each new trial. The Souls series has a similar dynamic where you are the MC's drive to stay human and not go crazy despite all the constant deaths
Devil May Cry 3 is my single favorite action game. The game has such great writing, and Vergil is the best example of that: People who aren't paying attention dismiss him as one-dimensional, but there's so much depth to him beneath the surface, much like the rest of the game. Anyone who pays attention can see that Vergil is a good person who is still suffering from his mother's death, and the sheer, traumatizing sense of powerlessness he felt at being unable to protect her. Vergil's actions in the game almost always speak to his thoughts and personality. For example: A lot of people think that Vergil killing Arkham was him disposing of Arkham due to the human's "weakness" for his daughter. That's not what I saw, however: Vergil obviously knew of Arkham's actions in the past, as well as his duplicitous nature. Because Vergil's mother was still such an important motivating factor to him, I think the idea that Arkham murdered his own wife, just for a bit of power, sickened him. But he _needed_ Arkham's knowledge to unlock the secrets of the Temen ni Gru. Once he had them, however, he no longer needed to put up with Arkham's presence, and instead choose to kill him, satisfying his hatred and intolerance for someone who is very much an antithesis for Vergil himself. See, when I say the game has "great writing," I mean the way it explains its characters, without them having to sit and engage in dialogue. DMC's dialogue is corny and hammy, so technically it's not "good." Contrast this with the recent God of War, which I feel has bad writing, but good dialogue. Kratos and his son talk to each other. A LOT. But there's nothing to really infer or speculate on there because it's all literally on the surface. Kratos even tells Atreus (and by proxy the viewer) "I am sad about your mother's death, but I'm choosing not to express it visually." Specifically, he says "Do not mistake my silence for lack of grief, Boy." That's good dialogue in my opinion, but bad writing, because the writer felt that Kratos' expressions or sentiments weren't clear enough to the people playing the game, and so we needed Kratos to assure us with his words that yes, he is sad about his wife's death. Meanwhile we have great scenes like the one, for example, where Lady gives Dante her Kalina Ann: She tells him "I'm lending this to you," which means she expects Dante to come back from what is very likely a suicidal mission. She has faith that Dante will return, however. This is almost the exact opposite position from where she started from when she first encountered him. And as if to further prove their skill at writing, Dante takes it, and moves in to kiss her, but she turns her head, refusing him. And rather than yak on about it, Dante silently pulls away, respecting her sentiment. We don't need a long, drawn out talky-talky scene between the two to express how they feel about each other, or this situation, because the game's writing SHOWS IT TO US.
Joseph Bishkey Thanks for the comment. Another thing I didn't mention is how well they hew to the "rules" established by Devil May Cry 1 in regards to the fight with Arkham: Namely, Arkham acquires the two halves of Sparda's amulet, but he lacks Sparda's blood. So when he gains the Force Edge, it unleashes a large amount of the sword's power, but not it's _true_ form. And then when Vergil gets it, he he has the Blood, but not both halves of the amulet. In Vergil's hands the sword is extremely deadly, but he can't utilize its full power no matter how hard he may try. They could have dicked around with this, but the fact that they were careful in regards to this detail shows how much love and care they put into the game.
Omio Rahman That would depend on the framing. We can tell that Vergil doesn't just kill because he can, since he largely ignored Lady, particularly when she was alone and easy pickings. However, he's also apparently not above cutting down people who get in his way, either. I don't think he'll kill Kyrie, but he'll either abduct her for some unexplained reason, or do enough damage to her when she tries to stop him that she has to be hospitalized, driving Nero's motive to hunt him down and get his revenge. There's a lot of ways this scenario can play out, and I'd like to see what they're going to do with it.
Adorni could be true Nero's rage seems deeper than loss of his hand .it is also possible likely Vergil will kill,accidently kill her though Vergil killing kyrie is character derailment no matter the reason even if it is to motivate Nero but I can see Capcom likely killing kyrie .
@Joseph Bishkey I disagree about the corniness of the dialogue and its quality. Dmc3 is obviously trying to be what is essentially a hollywood action film or saturday morning cartoon with its over the top action and goofy lines. The dialogue being so over the top fits in perfectly with the tone and style of the game. Meanwhile GoW is trying to be more realistic and grounded and so the dialogue is much more...realistic and grounded.
First battle: Dante reaches out to Vergil as Dante falls down to the ground. Final battle: Dante reaches out to Vergil as Vergil falls down to hell. In both scenes, Vergil slashes Dantes hand as it reached out to him. Symbolic and sad.
The way I see it, the difference in power plays an enormous part in their squabbles. 1st battle - Vergil, using his own power is stronger than Dante who refused to accept his power and soundly defeats him. 2nd battle - Dante havent honed his true power in the tower is now Vergil's equal and they are tied in strength. 3rd battle - Vergil has abandoned his own power for the Force Edge and as such, Dante who believes in his own power and doesn't care for his father's defeats Vergil outright.
I can't believe I didn't realize it sooner, but Bit totally quoted Dante at the end of the video when he said "That's the only kind of gift worth giving", which is exactly what Dante said to Nero after entrusting him with Vergil's Yamato. I can't believe it took me till now to realize that... Oh well, at least now I finally get it :'P
I felt it too. He was shocked to believe Dante had enough cruelty to actually kill his only kin in this world for the sole reason of a disagreement. It sadly turned out that Dante had no problem doing it over and over. At this point Vergil has already learned to respect Dante's decision to remain in the human world and has been repeatedly urging him to leave before the portal closed, but Dante has not learned to respect Vergil's decision to remain in the underworld in the same manner and insisted to stop him. Vergil clearly held back in this fight and tried to end the fight ASAP. He even admitted he lost and urged Dante to leave. But because Dante still insisted to fight, Vergil made the difficult choice of selfless sacrifice. Before he charged against Dante, Vergil's eyes were really sad, like Ironman's eyes before he made the snap that killed himself with Thanos. He already sensed his demise coming. When he was dashing towards Dante, he held the Force Edge sideways and the blade facing Dante. But when they mated, he pulled it back to his own side and raised it overhead to skip Dante. It's quite clear to see. His sword was entirely on his side when viewing from above. He basically raised his hands and let Dante hit him. It was intentional. He just wanted to end the fight so that Dante wouldn't be trapped in the underworld with him. Dante really used Vergil's love over him to beat and harm Vergil, although not intentionally. He was still clueless until he saw Vergil picked up his mother's amulet and left the Force Edge to him. It was until that moment that he finally knew Vergil was protecting him. To prevent further relay, Vergil even jumped down so that Dante would make haste and leave ASAP. It's really very sad. Vergil's life would have been entirely different if he entered the underworld in full health. With that kind of fatal wounds, things would not turn out to be good for him no matter he stays in the underworld or returns to the human world. He was damaged beyond repair. It's really not that staying in the underworld is a bad thing, but that suffering such bodily harm is. Dante really shouldn't harm him simply for an disagreement. Having been to the underworld numerous times later on, he knew that was not the end of day for either of them, and Vergil can literally return through a portal at any time.
Years go by and I'm still waiting for a game\movie\anime\comic telling something about Dante's and Vergil's past. That moment when Dante asks "remember what we used to say" and the way Vergil smiles is very cool and makes their past interesting. Also, FUCK the reboot.
the anime of Devil May Cry isn't so bad and when you think about it. The Devil May Cry anime takes place during Dante's depression since he doesn't do his flashy personality that much in the anime unless he's fighting demon. There's even a short manga series of Devil May Cry 4 about Nero's past.
I think it's fitting that Vergil lost to Dante using Force Edge. If not taking into account Dante winning with it over Mundus in DMC, it says a lot about Vergil trying too hard to be like his farther instead of himself. It may have been a tie or even a win if Vergil would stick to his sword and his own fighting style.
Sephi D yeah that's what I thought as well. if he stuck with the blade he's perfected instead of something he's never wielded even once he would've won by a landslide
@@kelvinwebley6971 it was really just Dante barely winning through perserverance. 1 had a similar 3rd fight with Nero Angelo where they're basically equal and Dante barely wins
@@The-Beyonder See, but what makes the fight so good is that you can speculate about why Dante won. Instead of a clean answer or added power giving Dante the edge, you can contemplate what gave Dante the strength to beat his brother in the end.
That ending always gets to me. When Vergil just cannot let his resentment and stubbornness go and even cuts Dante's hand when he falls. It's so bitter, and really sad. Some powerful themes and real human emotion going on in that scene, and in the whole game. I remember that scene really hitting me when I first played the DMC games. It felt so real. I have experienced situations like that in real life where I felt like either party in that scene.
My interpretation is that he wanted to ensure Dante would leave before the portal closure, that was the reason why he jumped down in the first place. He didn't want any further delay.
Guy Guino I know it's more of a sour parting gift when Dante tries to save him but Vergil cutting his hand after stealing his half of the amulet is hilarious to me for some reason. Like what was the purpose of that? Lol.
DMC3 does the final boss right. Just two guys giving their all in one epic and final battle. Not just you damaging the boss and then it is revealed he was only at half strength and then you have to fight him again. I also don't know why Vergil's voice in DMC3 gets a lot of hate. I think it's fine. I think Vergil and Dante's rivalry is one of the things definitely DMC3 does right. It's a pretty underrated gaming rivalry. Vergil is one of the most memorable rival characters in gaming. This video makes me wish DMC5 would come out already.
Unfortunately, I got another copyright claim on this video due to the music I used at the end, so I can't monetize this video. Last time this happened was on the Yakuza video, but the claims eventually got taken down. Doesn't matter though, putting out entertaining videos for you guys is the most important thing. (Make sure to stay until the end of the video for a teaser for the next video!)
+HyperBitHero The whole system is so fucked up. I wish I could give you more money on patreon as I've watched all of your stuff multiple times, but I'm supporting like 8 channels at this point and I can't really afford more than 1-2$ per video. Hope that still helps. Will upgrade in the future with a more stable income.
HyperBitHero Dude, at this point it would be better to just use royalty free music or stuff from soundcloud(with permission). The content claim system is so fucked that partner channels are avoiding that sort of hassle altogether. I know you want to use the music from the games, but it would either have to be 6 second snippets or less or nothing at all. That way you can still monetize.
Bleachlover01 I think it's mainly vocal songs to avoid. Shall Never Surrender also gave me trouble and has been the only piece of game music to give me that sort of grief.
Virgil is the first thing I think of when I think of the word "rival". He is the perfect example of the kind of rival character I really like. Really wouldn't even mind it if they just kind of asspulled him back into the story.
He also... 1.) Turns into a cooler version of Kylo Ren with tattoos, a fascination for William Blake's poetry, and using the bosses from DMC 1 as familiars to fight for him. 2.) Becomes a Demon King who later turns into a Resident Evil G Virus B.O.W with many eyes all over his body after eating a damn fruit of human blood. And last but not least... 3.) Turns back into his normal self with a new coat and a devil trigger with a better doppelganger style than his DmC reboot counterpart.
Great video, Hero. I always liked Vergil both as a character and a villain, not only that but quick draw is my favorite fighting style of all time. I really hope if DMC5 is going to happen Vergil will get his own missions, but knowing capcom it won't happen.
Pablo Delgado Yeah, Capcom gave little information on his past. I'm curious to see how he met Eva, and what drove him to turn on his own kind like there's gotta be more than just feeling pity for helpless humans against demons.
...God, you mentioning a "DMC5 where Dante and Nero travel to the demon realm and at one point rescue Virgil" just makes me sad... It's Awesome!... But it's never going to happen :(
***** Whether DMC5 is being made remains to be seen. Chances are it is being made. There's a lot of hints saying it is. However one thing is for sure. DmC 2 isn't happening.
I like the implication that Dante won the final strike because he used the weapon he was familiar with, while Vergil overstepped and used one that he wasn't as skilled with and lacked the power he wanted from it at that moment. Or that he immediately went for his amulet and didn't bother to go for the sword.
I always saw Vergil's final strike as being an intentional miss, because we see with the perspective, Vergil is holding the sword too high to actually connect with Dante, and doesn't begin to swing it until just a moment too late. It gives me the feel that even though Vergil was a dick he didn't want to kill his little brother.
The final strike was an intentional miss. Vergil's eyes were sad as if he knew he was about to die. When he charged against Dante, he held the sword horizontal and the blade edge towards Dante. But when they were about to connect, he drew it back to his own side and raised it overhead to skip Dante. Seeing it from above, his sword is clearly on his own side. He had hesitated. He was too kind to harm his only kin. Sadly Dante is always cruel enough to harm and kill his only kin in the world. He preferred his mother's amulet over his father's sword. That's a symbol for his choice in life. He didn't actually love power. He wanted to protect his family. He left it intentionally because Dante in full health could make better use of it as he was already on the brink of dying.
See I was always hung up on Vergil’s quote, “Foolishness Dante, foolishness. Might controls everything and without power, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself.” While the last quip is mocking Dante and playing into that brotherly rivalry, I truly believed Vergil wasn’t so much trying to dehumanize himself, but rather... he hated his father for not being their to protect Eva. See, I always thought Vergil’s quest for power was to be the man his father wasn’t. To be better. At the end of DMC3 where Vergil seals his fate, “It would be fun to fight the prince of darkness. If my father did it... I should be able to do it too!” He was always measuring himself up to his father and that right there screams volumes of his passion for conquest. IMHO, Vergil took the death of their human mother the hardest because as a boy, he couldn’t protect her.
Watching this after playing DMC 5 made me find 2 things in DMC 5 that could be a reference to DMC 3. 1. Right before you fight Artemis as Nero, he says "Without strength, you can't protect anything. I know that". Vergil says almost the same thing to Dante in DMC 3 when he stabs him with Yamato right before taking his amulet. 2. The 1 hit Nero gets on Urizen (The one slice across the palm) is almost identical to the cut Vergil gives Dante in DMC 3 right before falling into the underworld. Anyone else notice these?
its crazy how right you are in this last part of the video about how to bring him back and have his son save him or be strongly involved. That is exactly what DMC5 is now.
There's still so much potential in the DMC franchise, esp with Vergil, that it continues to boggle the mind how a monstrosity like DmC ever was approved.
I've seen people criticize this video saying it feels more like a plot summary of DMC3 rather than an analysis of Vergil as a character, but to me I think that shows how good of an antagonist he is. He's involved in and related to every aspect of the story; him and Dante aren't constantly fighting the entire game but he's doing just as much as Dante is, and understanding what he does during the story and how he effects it and vice versa is integral to understanding his (no joke intended) motivations.
Thanks for making this video. I've always thought that DMC3 actually managed to tell a pretty great story while staying true to its craziness and over the top style and that this also applies to Dante and Vergil in DMC3. People like to dismiss them as generic anime stereotypes but I think, in DMC3 at least, they were really much more than this.
Spoilers for DmC 5 (eventhough I only watched the gameplay, not playing it): DmC 5 really brought an interesting idea of what happened when Vergil separated his humanity from his demon side. V (Vergil's separated human side) kinda embraced his human side by following Nero (his son) and his gang throughout their journey, only to rejoined with his demon side at the end because they became severely weakened after they separated from each other. This may conclude that Vergil is now learning to appreciate his human side more, albeit not that much.
God Vergil was one of my favorite Rivals/Antagonists out there. I do hope that they use that as a plot line for a potential DMC 5. Especially with the implications made in regards to Nero and his connection to Vergil and Yamato. Would certainly be a plausible step forward for Nero's story and if a DMC5 DOES happen, it would make sense with how they include Vergil in Special Edition for DMC4 Here's to hoping eh?
If I were Capcom, I would say to DMC developers next thing "You have one task, making "Devil May Cry 5 - SSS" as the game of year, where Dante & Vergil are the main protagonists, with 20hours of story telling that explains everything & telling the world that DMC franchise is the king of slasher games ever existed".
A. Long. Time. Coming. It finally arrived and it certainly lived up to my moderate expectations. While some fans love to call him overrated and the gaming media, press, and certain developers seems to outright dislike him and the series itself, I don't think you can deny that they did great with him in the 3rd game. Expanding a pretty cool boss from the first game into the second most memorable character in the entire series after Dante himself? You gotta clap that up. Great video HBH. I just wish people would give this game and the series a chance before completely writing them off. Though as you said, let's just celebrate what we got.
I think this video deserves a update video since dmc 5 adds so much to virgil's and dante's for that matter, story and I was glad they decided to go with him as the villain as I think him being the final bad guy in this one cements his status as the series main villain since before this he was only the main bad guy in 1 out of the 4 and a mid game one in the first albeit in a different form. Now he's the only recurring main boss and they could have gone with someone like mundus or some new world threatening boss and put virgil in a minor role in likes vegata type roll. Which he still is kind of except he still is on the bad side and therefore still has room to develop since he ultimate wants and needs are still incomplete .whereas when this happened to vegeta he slowly got less and less screentime as he had nothing else to do. Now since they built on his role as antagonist if they want to go the vegeta route they'll have no to work with and a bigger change. I hope for the next main title they switch up the gameplay and experiment with mixing or new genres something along the lines of god of war 2018 still has the core of god of war in it but exploring it in a different way.
And then he comes back in DMC5 to cement his presence as THE best video game character hands down. Because he felt like it. Seriously, just look at how much work they put into his theme! Dante's is... fine I guess, but Virgil's is something else entirely.
I think bringing Vergil back somehow in a post DMC1 game would be a disservice to his character. His stubbornness is his entire persona and what leads to his downfall at the end of 3 and his enslavement to Mundus, so to have Dante or Nero somehow find a way to rescue him and have everything be hunky dory would cheapen his character and story. Death has no weight when every great character is written out of it.
@@ltv8433 I feel the same way I did then. It cheapens his character to try and redeem him at the end of DMC5 after he killed countless people through the events of the game. I loved the boss fight but from a story perspective bringing him back and trying to redeem him is awful.
Even though I have played the Devil May Cry series to death, you couldn't begin to understand how excited I was to see that you made a video on Vergil. He is one of my favorite videogame characters of all time and your videos have been some of my new favorites ever since I first stumbled upon you. Keep at it man.
FizzleBiscuit ok I'm really curious as to who ranks higher than virgil in your book. I mean he can single handedly demolish almost everyone in a millionth of a second
This game had such a good narrative. I was pretty ticked when everybody was praising Ninja Theory's reboot while ignoring this game. DmC had nowhere near the emotional connection this game gives you.
I imagine if there is ever a continuation of Devil May Cry, Vergil is alive but he is lost. He could be in robes and roaming around cities, grizzled and broken. His sword could be a testament to that, it was in the hands of another that could help him find his path. I mean if Nero is able to fix Vergil's sword, its like a gesture that he could also fix Vergil. Just a theory I came up with just now.
I shed a good tear when he came back in 5 I thought the neros song in 4 as you saw the malevolent blue light dissolve from around him “The alpha and Omega” nothing could’ve been better than that, truly, truly the best return
"Dante tries to stop vergil from falling" Dmc3 vergil: leave me alone im staying this is our father's home Dmc5 dante: you gonna need some help and someone to keep an eye for you Vergil:......... Edit: in the manga vergil was tortured and corrupted by mundus and mundus "removes his humanity" as he also think this is weakness
I would like to think Vergil found out he was gonna have a child than went out in search of more power just so he can protect his family and control the demon inside of him. the theory came to me from what Vergil says to Dante "Might controls everything" also "and without strength, you can't protect anything. let alone yourself." those quotes are something Vergil himself believes in. he may rejected his human side but couldn't not fully abandoned it either.
my first devil may cry was the reboot, so when i finally got the hd collection i played through the first 3 games for the first time not knowing the stories and only knowing the central characters (dante, vergil, and mundus). seeing the twist reveal of who nelo angelo is completely blew my mind thanks to the context i had on what vergil was somewhat like.
I think Vergil is more a reluctant villain who falls down the path of corruption through pain of loss of his mother, he believes might makes right, and is the only way to protect those he cares about.
I just beat DMC3 on Tuesday. The ending really gave me the feels, and now I'm playing through DMC1. When I first fought him as Nelo, I just felt depressed on the inside and just makes me hate Mundus even more.
Please do one of these for Jetstream Sam. I love how you take the opportunity to analyze the psyche of the villain, who, in my opinion, is always the most interesting character. Keep up the good work.
It would be nice if Vergil did get his own game, rather than getting the short end of the stick and just being a shoe in for more content on a game we already played. For me, he's just as likable as Dante, because of his totally opposite personality. While Dante is the lighthearted, fun loving badass, Vergil is the calm, cool, collected kind. DMC 3 still has the best story in this series because of this sibling rivalry, and I'd really love to see more of it. At the very least, more development for Vergil. I just hope the next sequel isn't of the one that tries to call itself Devil May Cry...
Lots of fans were incredulous about Nero being Vergil's son due to Nero being too old or whatever. But the new Special Edition clarified the timeline of the games since at the beginning of Vergil's opening cutscene the caption reads "Fortuna City: A few decades ago". And he catches the eye of that woman as he walks by, so I think the DMC4 SE cutscenes were intended to drop some subtle hints of how Nero came to be. Plus, Dan Southworth directly said that Nero was Vergil's son shortly before DMC4 was even released, and nobody remembered it.
This video right here puts to rest all the bullshit some DmC fanboys spout when they say DMC3 Dante and Vergil have no character development. I want to puke in my mouth every time I hear such stupidity. Awesome video lol
even though I remember thr story being B movie-like, I still have fond memories of just how badass Dante and Vergil's rivalry is. Awesome to see this video remind us all of what made Vergil such a cool character.
2001: "We got a winner!"
*"JACKPOT!!!"*
2005: "Remember what we used to say?"
*"JACKPOT!!!"*
2019: "DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT!"
*"JACKPOT!!!"*
2001 to 2005 = 3 games in the span of 4 years
2005 to 2019 = 3 games in the span of 14 years..
*FAAAAAAAAAACK!!*
Jackpot was also in 4 during the final boss, but you needed to be in DT and land the final hit using Nero’s buster. This also returned for DMC5, and in both cases it was super satisfying.
@@John-dd8kh Modern games with WAY higher fidelity take longer to make? Say it ain't so.
@Joe Alexander Wow. Much anger.
2019: "DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT!!"
"*JACKPOT!!*"
Coming back to this video, I noticed something interesting in Vergil's last scene in DMC 3.
There's a nuance that's barely noticeable in his last scene. While he sounds confident in himself about to fight 'the prince of darkness', notice he threw away his scabbard. Completely uncharacteristic of Vergil, who's most elegant and always sheaths his Yamato immediately after use. According to old Eastern swordsman code, there is never EVER a reason for one to toss their scabbard . . . unless the wielder feels it will be the last time they can. In other words, if they think this fight will mean their death.
Seeing as how DMC 3 was obsessed with subtle body language in all of its cutscenes, this had to have been intentional. It's almost as if, despite his vow of confidence, Vergil knows deep down that this will be his last real fight before his end. For anyone that already played DMC 1 and is aware he becomes Nelo Angelo makes it even sadder. This was such a perfect way to end this concise saga of Dante's brother
"to end this concise saga" LOL
That is an awesome observation! I really hope that was their reasoning for Vergil throwing away his scabbard.
In dmc5 he throws away his scabbard when he stabs himself
This is why dmc3 was best like you said they had so many secrets
@@SpectreDarkFox well that's probably cause vergil isn't vergil after the separation until he comes back and has the scabbard
Fun fact: When you fight Beowulf, none of Dante's weapons do any extra damage to him. But if you're playing as Vergil, Yamato will do extra damage because it's considered a dark weapon.
Keegan Stormblade kinda like how agni and rudra do extra damage to cerberus
kazuma Exactly!
Or how Cerberus does extra to Agni, the fire demon...
OHHHH .. never thought of that.
and that centipede thingie too..
I think it shouldn't be understated just how important Vergil is to character action games and other action games too. He's really what solidified the rival character as a staple of the genre. He's also perhaps the best one ever created.
+The4thSnake Him and Zero, from Mega Man X.
+Aczie042 Zero is more a mentor than a rival.
Nice to see that got liked quick.
Meh, Pokemon rivals are shallow as a puddle.
Garry whole character is being a dick, and while it is a good motivation for the player to face him and emerge victorious, the lack of anything else just makes him look 1 dimensional with a protagonist that is zero dimensional.
Aczie042 calling Zero a rival is like saying "All Might Is Deku's Rival"
The writing in DMC3 doesn't really get as much credit as it deserves. Sure it's by no means a masterpiece of video game writing or anything but the character development for the three main characters is suprisingly subdued as far as action games go.
To me this is the perfect type of writing for this kind of game, the gameplay is ridiculous and over the top and for the most part so is the story but sometimes there is a little bit of humanity poking through all of the ridiculous action.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING DMC3 IS ONE OF THE BEST PS2 GAMES EVER
Tony I agree. It's a great prequel.
Implying there are videogame stories with the same quality as Citizen Kane.
@@sergiogonzales330 Some videogames take their newfound status as literary texts very seriously
Sorry, but it is a masterpiece
i love how vergil cracks little smile before they say jackpot
I come from the future and I’m here to tell you ...
JACKPOT!!!
"Don't you dare say it"
What form of power is this?
@@Comkill117 Dante: "What the hell"
i come from an even further future and im here to tell you.....
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROOOAACHING!
@@jokesterio1456Youre cringe
"Everyone likes to say that Devil May Cry games are just about crazy nonsense, but this game deserves more credit than that."
Glad to hear someone acknowledge that the character building for some of the main cast in DMC3 was portrayed well enough for emotional investment. Sure, the story and a majority of the dialogue is made of ham and cheese (purposely so, I would suspect), but there are a number of sincere moments that help solidify characters such as Vergil.
7:00
"Remember what we used to say?"
And Vergil smiles!
Oh GOD!
THAT SMILE!
THAT FREAKIN' SMILE!
:"O
I miss Vergil!
I never noticed that before and I've watched that cutscene thousands of times. It's fucking adorable (and sexy. can I have crushes on fake people? I've decided I'm having a crush on a fake person)
If you listen close enough you can also hear Vergil chuckle.
And now he's a dad, getting his power from monster energy
Wow that’s so cool never noticed that
Twenty years later* Dont you DARE say it!
This is one of the reasons why when people say "the story in devil may cry games don't matter" I just shake my head cause that story is what gives us emotional investment in what's happening and enforces gameplay.
Also another interesting bit to point out; the player works as a physical metaphor for Dante's human side. His demonic power is accessed through the controller and is always there, but his drive to continue going through each stage, confront each boss or retry when losing all your HP . You, as a human, care about what is happening in the game so you continue to push Dante forward through each new trial. The Souls series has a similar dynamic where you are the MC's drive to stay human and not go crazy despite all the constant deaths
Mind blown.
Devil May Cry 3 is my single favorite action game. The game has such great writing, and Vergil is the best example of that: People who aren't paying attention dismiss him as one-dimensional, but there's so much depth to him beneath the surface, much like the rest of the game. Anyone who pays attention can see that Vergil is a good person who is still suffering from his mother's death, and the sheer, traumatizing sense of powerlessness he felt at being unable to protect her. Vergil's actions in the game almost always speak to his thoughts and personality. For example: A lot of people think that Vergil killing Arkham was him disposing of Arkham due to the human's "weakness" for his daughter. That's not what I saw, however: Vergil obviously knew of Arkham's actions in the past, as well as his duplicitous nature. Because Vergil's mother was still such an important motivating factor to him, I think the idea that Arkham murdered his own wife, just for a bit of power, sickened him. But he _needed_ Arkham's knowledge to unlock the secrets of the Temen ni Gru. Once he had them, however, he no longer needed to put up with Arkham's presence, and instead choose to kill him, satisfying his hatred and intolerance for someone who is very much an antithesis for Vergil himself.
See, when I say the game has "great writing," I mean the way it explains its characters, without them having to sit and engage in dialogue. DMC's dialogue is corny and hammy, so technically it's not "good." Contrast this with the recent God of War, which I feel has bad writing, but good dialogue. Kratos and his son talk to each other. A LOT. But there's nothing to really infer or speculate on there because it's all literally on the surface. Kratos even tells Atreus (and by proxy the viewer) "I am sad about your mother's death, but I'm choosing not to express it visually." Specifically, he says "Do not mistake my silence for lack of grief, Boy." That's good dialogue in my opinion, but bad writing, because the writer felt that Kratos' expressions or sentiments weren't clear enough to the people playing the game, and so we needed Kratos to assure us with his words that yes, he is sad about his wife's death.
Meanwhile we have great scenes like the one, for example, where Lady gives Dante her Kalina Ann: She tells him "I'm lending this to you," which means she expects Dante to come back from what is very likely a suicidal mission. She has faith that Dante will return, however. This is almost the exact opposite position from where she started from when she first encountered him. And as if to further prove their skill at writing, Dante takes it, and moves in to kiss her, but she turns her head, refusing him. And rather than yak on about it, Dante silently pulls away, respecting her sentiment. We don't need a long, drawn out talky-talky scene between the two to express how they feel about each other, or this situation, because the game's writing SHOWS IT TO US.
Joseph Bishkey Thanks for the comment. Another thing I didn't mention is how well they hew to the "rules" established by Devil May Cry 1 in regards to the fight with Arkham: Namely, Arkham acquires the two halves of Sparda's amulet, but he lacks Sparda's blood. So when he gains the Force Edge, it unleashes a large amount of the sword's power, but not it's _true_ form. And then when Vergil gets it, he he has the Blood, but not both halves of the amulet. In Vergil's hands the sword is extremely deadly, but he can't utilize its full power no matter how hard he may try. They could have dicked around with this, but the fact that they were careful in regards to this detail shows how much love and care they put into the game.
Adorni what logic can we use if he kills kyrie cause even that's out of character but will happen in V
Omio Rahman That would depend on the framing. We can tell that Vergil doesn't just kill because he can, since he largely ignored Lady, particularly when she was alone and easy pickings. However, he's also apparently not above cutting down people who get in his way, either. I don't think he'll kill Kyrie, but he'll either abduct her for some unexplained reason, or do enough damage to her when she tries to stop him that she has to be hospitalized, driving Nero's motive to hunt him down and get his revenge. There's a lot of ways this scenario can play out, and I'd like to see what they're going to do with it.
Adorni could be true Nero's rage seems deeper than loss of his hand .it is also possible likely Vergil will kill,accidently kill her though Vergil killing kyrie is character derailment no matter the reason even if it is to motivate Nero but I can see Capcom likely killing kyrie .
@Joseph Bishkey I disagree about the corniness of the dialogue and its quality. Dmc3 is obviously trying to be what is essentially a hollywood action film or saturday morning cartoon with its over the top action and goofy lines. The dialogue being so over the top fits in perfectly with the tone and style of the game. Meanwhile GoW is trying to be more realistic and grounded and so the dialogue is much more...realistic and grounded.
Dan Southworth just retweeted this video.
+Pepsi Man bless that man
laz kar
yes and motion capture
laz kar
yup. he's a martial artist =)
+EclipseHedgehog is the actual movements for fighting in gameplay motion captured or animated?
You mean DANIEL.
First battle: Dante reaches out to Vergil as Dante falls down to the ground.
Final battle: Dante reaches out to Vergil as Vergil falls down to hell.
In both scenes, Vergil slashes Dantes hand as it reached out to him. Symbolic and sad.
Bruh i just realized this
The way I see it, the difference in power plays an enormous part in their squabbles.
1st battle - Vergil, using his own power is stronger than Dante who refused to accept his power and soundly defeats him.
2nd battle - Dante havent honed his true power in the tower is now Vergil's equal and they are tied in strength.
3rd battle - Vergil has abandoned his own power for the Force Edge and as such, Dante who believes in his own power and doesn't care for his father's defeats Vergil outright.
I can't believe I didn't realize it sooner, but Bit totally quoted Dante at the end of the video when he said "That's the only kind of gift worth giving", which is exactly what Dante said to Nero after entrusting him with Vergil's Yamato.
I can't believe it took me till now to realize that... Oh well, at least now I finally get it :'P
Dear capcom,
DMC5 should be about Vergil's return.
sincerely, dmc fanbase.
+prettynina1000 DMC5 isn't happening nerd.
+Trat Lo Yea right, says a dmC dumbass 😂 I see you everywhere trolling dmc fans, how much did Ninja Theory pay you to do that? Get a life moron
prettynina1000
They paid me 0. I don't work for NT. I just go around spreading the truth. Again DMC5 isn't happening.
+Trat Lo Yea keep telling yourself that 😂 you're doing good lmao ninja theory will give ya more money for telling me this 👏
prettynina1000
I'm done. You're biased. It's obvious you can't see reason.
I seriously busted out laughing when Bladewolf's theme started playing
+Sjono yea that was a nice touch indeed lol
+Sjono I did
+Sjono It does fit when you think about it
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooHOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo
It fits so well that now when I see the actual scene in the game it feels empty without the music
Congrats on getting a response from Hideki Kamiya without being blocked. =P
He got blocked once I'm pretty sure.
+Strider119119
XD
What did he say?
That feel when you land the final blow on Vergil on DMC3 and he let's out a weary "Dante..." as the screen turns black
I felt it too. He was shocked to believe Dante had enough cruelty to actually kill his only kin in this world for the sole reason of a disagreement. It sadly turned out that Dante had no problem doing it over and over.
At this point Vergil has already learned to respect Dante's decision to remain in the human world and has been repeatedly urging him to leave before the portal closed, but Dante has not learned to respect Vergil's decision to remain in the underworld in the same manner and insisted to stop him.
Vergil clearly held back in this fight and tried to end the fight ASAP. He even admitted he lost and urged Dante to leave. But because Dante still insisted to fight, Vergil made the difficult choice of selfless sacrifice. Before he charged against Dante, Vergil's eyes were really sad, like Ironman's eyes before he made the snap that killed himself with Thanos. He already sensed his demise coming.
When he was dashing towards Dante, he held the Force Edge sideways and the blade facing Dante. But when they mated, he pulled it back to his own side and raised it overhead to skip Dante. It's quite clear to see. His sword was entirely on his side when viewing from above. He basically raised his hands and let Dante hit him. It was intentional. He just wanted to end the fight so that Dante wouldn't be trapped in the underworld with him.
Dante really used Vergil's love over him to beat and harm Vergil, although not intentionally. He was still clueless until he saw Vergil picked up his mother's amulet and left the Force Edge to him. It was until that moment that he finally knew Vergil was protecting him. To prevent further relay, Vergil even jumped down so that Dante would make haste and leave ASAP.
It's really very sad. Vergil's life would have been entirely different if he entered the underworld in full health. With that kind of fatal wounds, things would not turn out to be good for him no matter he stays in the underworld or returns to the human world. He was damaged beyond repair. It's really not that staying in the underworld is a bad thing, but that suffering such bodily harm is. Dante really shouldn't harm him simply for an disagreement. Having been to the underworld numerous times later on, he knew that was not the end of day for either of them, and Vergil can literally return through a portal at any time.
@@CureMiracle Bruh....
@@CureMiracle LOL what? Vergil never admitted defeat "Am I being defeated?", in fact it was him who insisted to fight.
It's so weird coming back to these videos after DMCV dropped. I'm glad we're in this timeline though
this is the timeline where we win XD
Years go by and I'm still waiting for a game\movie\anime\comic telling something about Dante's and Vergil's past.
That moment when Dante asks "remember what we used to say" and the way Vergil smiles is very cool and makes their past interesting.
Also, FUCK the reboot.
There's a manga which takes place a year before 3 and has Vergil in it.
+Femto all it accomplish is Vergil unleashing the tower and notifying Dante that he is not dead
I'm positive the now decanonized Devil May Cry 1 comic brought references to the past of Dante and Vergil in the Nelo Angelo issue.
the anime of Devil May Cry isn't so bad and when you think about it. The Devil May Cry anime takes place during Dante's depression since he doesn't do his flashy personality that much in the anime unless he's fighting demon. There's even a short manga series of Devil May Cry 4 about Nero's past.
I ACTUALLY WOULD LOVE A GAME about dante chieldhood, i mean how bad ass could he be as kid?
I think it's fitting that Vergil lost to Dante using Force Edge. If not taking into account Dante winning with it over Mundus in DMC, it says a lot about Vergil trying too hard to be like his farther instead of himself. It may have been a tie or even a win if Vergil would stick to his sword and his own fighting style.
Sephi D yeah that's what I thought as well. if he stuck with the blade he's perfected instead of something he's never wielded even once he would've won by a landslide
I JUST THOUGHT HE LOST DUE TO JUST LOSING TO DANTE AND STILL BEING EXHAUSTED
@@kelvinwebley6971 it was really just Dante barely winning through perserverance. 1 had a similar 3rd fight with Nero Angelo where they're basically equal and Dante barely wins
@@The-Beyonder
See, but what makes the fight so good is that you can speculate about why Dante won. Instead of a clean answer or added power giving Dante the edge, you can contemplate what gave Dante the strength to beat his brother in the end.
@@juniorjunior5884 Absolutely. I love this series and the Dante/Vergil dynamic.
Watching this with a smile after playing DMC 5. :)
What a fucking great game DMC3 was. Easily in my top 5 of all time.
+Domenick boucher
I'd say the same.
:)
It is pretty awesome until now.
AlEz TairIo DMC3 is a gift from Sparda himself.
That ending always gets to me. When Vergil just cannot let his resentment and stubbornness go and even cuts Dante's hand when he falls. It's so bitter, and really sad. Some powerful themes and real human emotion going on in that scene, and in the whole game. I remember that scene really hitting me when I first played the DMC games. It felt so real. I have experienced situations like that in real life where I felt like either party in that scene.
My interpretation is that he wanted to ensure Dante would leave before the portal closure, that was the reason why he jumped down in the first place. He didn't want any further delay.
God theres a lot of hand cutting in this game.
if you try hard enough, your finger skins would rip off too. lol
The entire game was just Vergil vs Dante's fingers.
And lots of impalement
there is alot of dante being stabbed aswell (by his own sword)
Guy Guino I know it's more of a sour parting gift when Dante tries to save him but Vergil cutting his hand after stealing his half of the amulet is hilarious to me for some reason. Like what was the purpose of that? Lol.
"Memorable villains"
I call it one of the best video game character ever
DMC3 does the final boss right. Just two guys giving their all in one epic and final battle. Not just you damaging the boss and then it is revealed he was only at half strength and then you have to fight him again. I also don't know why Vergil's voice in DMC3 gets a lot of hate. I think it's fine.
I think Vergil and Dante's rivalry is one of the things definitely DMC3 does right. It's a pretty underrated gaming rivalry. Vergil is one of the most memorable rival characters in gaming.
This video makes me wish DMC5 would come out already.
civilwarfare101 soon, brother... soon
ALL OF THESE VOICES INSIDE OF MY HEAD
i cant see anyone exept dan southworth playing vergil
I love nasally Vergil
I miss Vergil :'(
Maybe one day, when Crapcom gets their act together, we'll see him return in DMC5.
Lord Dagger BIG BIG AMEN 🙏🏻
Yes
trust me, he's coming back i'm calling it rn
the time has come
Triplof and so have i
Unfortunately, I got another copyright claim on this video due to the music I used at the end, so I can't monetize this video. Last time this happened was on the Yakuza video, but the claims eventually got taken down. Doesn't matter though, putting out entertaining videos for you guys is the most important thing.
(Make sure to stay until the end of the video for a teaser for the next video!)
+HyperBitHero The whole system is so fucked up. I wish I could give you more money on patreon as I've watched all of your stuff multiple times, but I'm supporting like 8 channels at this point and I can't really afford more than 1-2$ per video. Hope that still helps. Will upgrade in the future with a more stable income.
HyperBitHero Dude, at this point it would be better to just use royalty free music or stuff from soundcloud(with permission). The content claim system is so fucked that partner channels are avoiding that sort of hassle altogether. I know you want to use the music from the games, but it would either have to be 6 second snippets or less or nothing at all. That way you can still monetize.
Bleachlover01 I think it's mainly vocal songs to avoid. Shall Never Surrender also gave me trouble and has been the only piece of game music to give me that sort of grief.
HyperBitHero you forgot to say that he has a bigger dick, and he betray Dante in the end and wants to RULE THE WORLD!...
HyperBitHero now im hype for your next video. god, i hated vorgil
Virgil is the first thing I think of when I think of the word "rival". He is the perfect example of the kind of rival character I really like. Really wouldn't even mind it if they just kind of asspulled him back into the story.
And so they did!
Absolutely amazing video. Brilliantly explained.
Xuses tfw you never realized that Xuses, the fighting game enthusiast, liked other weeb stuff.
Hi I'm from the future. Vergil comes back and rips Nero's arm off! Good day sir.
Nailed it.
You got it. Hauaua
Wait what
AND HE STILL LOSES
He also...
1.) Turns into a cooler version of Kylo Ren with tattoos, a fascination for William Blake's poetry, and using the bosses from DMC 1 as familiars to fight for him.
2.) Becomes a Demon King who later turns into a Resident Evil G Virus B.O.W with many eyes all over his body after eating a damn fruit of human blood.
And last but not least...
3.) Turns back into his normal self with a new coat and a devil trigger with a better doppelganger style than his DmC reboot counterpart.
Great video, Hero. I always liked Vergil both as a character and a villain, not only that but quick draw is my favorite fighting style of all time. I really hope if DMC5 is going to happen Vergil will get his own missions, but knowing capcom it won't happen.
Its happening
Foolishness Tikondrys, Foolishness.....
Sparda deserves his own game. C'mon Capcom make it happen!!
Devil May Cry 0. The one sword you have is the sword of Sparda, but you can use its multiple forms. That would be amazing!
Sparda is one of my favorite sword :)
It would be a sim game if ninja theory is making it . Super Demon party
EllieDMC3 I sooo agree with you. We need a game based of Sparda's past
Pablo Delgado Yeah, Capcom gave little information on his past. I'm curious to see how he met Eva, and what drove him to turn on his own kind like there's gotta be more than just feeling pity for helpless humans against demons.
Am i the only one who Wants Devil May Cry 0 about the Legendary Dark Knight Sparda ?
*Devil May Cry -2000
...God, you mentioning a "DMC5 where Dante and Nero travel to the demon realm and at one point rescue Virgil" just makes me sad... It's Awesome!... But it's never going to happen :(
+Kisaru1000 Lies. DMC5 is happening. Just wait.
Darkrlos I just hope they don't make DmC 2. I want my Devil May Cry 5. :/
*****
Whether DMC5 is being made remains to be seen. Chances are it is being made. There's a lot of hints saying it is. However one thing is for sure. DmC 2 isn't happening.
+Kisaru1000 It did happen. It's called Bayonetta 2.
gameman250
Bayonetta and DMC play very diffrently.
I like the implication that Dante won the final strike because he used the weapon he was familiar with, while Vergil overstepped and used one that he wasn't as skilled with and lacked the power he wanted from it at that moment. Or that he immediately went for his amulet and didn't bother to go for the sword.
I always saw Vergil's final strike as being an intentional miss, because we see with the perspective, Vergil is holding the sword too high to actually connect with Dante, and doesn't begin to swing it until just a moment too late. It gives me the feel that even though Vergil was a dick he didn't want to kill his little brother.
The final strike was an intentional miss. Vergil's eyes were sad as if he knew he was about to die. When he charged against Dante, he held the sword horizontal and the blade edge towards Dante. But when they were about to connect, he drew it back to his own side and raised it overhead to skip Dante. Seeing it from above, his sword is clearly on his own side. He had hesitated. He was too kind to harm his only kin. Sadly Dante is always cruel enough to harm and kill his only kin in the world.
He preferred his mother's amulet over his father's sword. That's a symbol for his choice in life. He didn't actually love power. He wanted to protect his family. He left it intentionally because Dante in full health could make better use of it as he was already on the brink of dying.
No mention of the Vergil who uses firearms and has no honor in DmC? oh right, he sucks
See I was always hung up on Vergil’s quote, “Foolishness Dante, foolishness. Might controls everything and without power, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself.” While the last quip is mocking Dante and playing into that brotherly rivalry, I truly believed Vergil wasn’t so much trying to dehumanize himself, but rather... he hated his father for not being their to protect Eva.
See, I always thought Vergil’s quest for power was to be the man his father wasn’t. To be better. At the end of DMC3 where Vergil seals his fate, “It would be fun to fight the prince of darkness. If my father did it... I should be able to do it too!” He was always measuring himself up to his father and that right there screams volumes of his passion for conquest. IMHO, Vergil took the death of their human mother the hardest because as a boy, he couldn’t protect her.
God the vergil in the reboot was awful
Actually at the end i thought he was pretty badass
Sláine McCool it was. BUT his voice acting in the rebot was perfect
+Dante Searcy vergil in DMC Donte May Cry Fuck You Edition was generic voice sound like a sissy nerd wears a silly fedora
Could say that about the Reboot as a whole :P
I only liked Vergil's appearance in that reboot
Watching this after playing DMC 5 made me find 2 things in DMC 5 that could be a reference to DMC 3.
1. Right before you fight Artemis as Nero, he says "Without strength, you can't protect anything. I know that". Vergil says almost the same thing to Dante in DMC 3 when he stabs him with Yamato right before taking his amulet.
2. The 1 hit Nero gets on Urizen (The one slice across the palm) is almost identical to the cut Vergil gives Dante in DMC 3 right before falling into the underworld.
Anyone else notice these?
5:57 Wolf's music from MGR got me, nice inclusion
commander392 which part is that from? I thought bladewolf's theme was I'm my own master now
Conmystro it's a reworked version, plays when Wolf appears during the fight against Armstrong
commander392 ohhhh i see that makes sense
Hah, I was about to post a comment on that myself. Glad I checked first.
Hells yeah, that was a neat inclusion.
commander392 which is badass
Whos here after DMC5? I loved that they brought vergil back
metoo
vergil dlc :D
I see Vergil I click .. its un resistible ...
its crazy how right you are in this last part of the video about how to bring him back and have his son save him or be strongly involved. That is exactly what DMC5 is now.
Going through MGRR again recently, I can't tell you how much I loved that Blade Wolf moment with Vergil. :Begin playback:
14:01 Man... Is bad for me to say that I almost cried when he finished this sentence with Dante's quote "That's the only gift worth giving"?
There's still so much potential in the DMC franchise, esp with Vergil, that it continues to boggle the mind how a monstrosity like DmC ever was approved.
Finally Vergil's in the spotlight. You should do Liquid Snake or Ocelot next (although for Ocelot it would be a hour long maybe two hours).
I've seen people criticize this video saying it feels more like a plot summary of DMC3 rather than an analysis of Vergil as a character, but to me I think that shows how good of an antagonist he is. He's involved in and related to every aspect of the story; him and Dante aren't constantly fighting the entire game but he's doing just as much as Dante is, and understanding what he does during the story and how he effects it and vice versa is integral to understanding his (no joke intended) motivations.
Thanks for making this video. I've always thought that DMC3 actually managed to tell a pretty great story while staying true to its craziness and over the top style and that this also applies to Dante and Vergil in DMC3. People like to dismiss them as generic anime stereotypes but I think, in DMC3 at least, they were really much more than this.
Spoilers for DmC 5 (eventhough I only watched the gameplay, not playing it):
DmC 5 really brought an interesting idea of what happened when Vergil separated his humanity from his demon side. V (Vergil's separated human side) kinda embraced his human side by following Nero (his son) and his gang throughout their journey, only to rejoined with his demon side at the end because they became severely weakened after they separated from each other. This may conclude that Vergil is now learning to appreciate his human side more, albeit not that much.
Baby steps
God Vergil was one of my favorite Rivals/Antagonists out there. I do hope that they use that as a plot line for a potential DMC 5. Especially with the implications made in regards to Nero and his connection to Vergil and Yamato. Would certainly be a plausible step forward for Nero's story and if a DMC5 DOES happen, it would make sense with how they include Vergil in Special Edition for DMC4
Here's to hoping eh?
If I were Capcom, I would say to DMC developers next thing "You have one task, making "Devil May Cry 5 - SSS" as the game of year, where Dante & Vergil are the main protagonists, with 20hours of story telling that explains everything & telling the world that DMC franchise is the king of slasher games ever existed".
I wish that you would upload more often, these videos are lovely. Keep up the good work.
+Runixzan this. i'd rather him take his time to release an excellent video instead of releasing countless shclock every month
Goddamn, can I erase my memories to watch this video again? Coming back after 5, man, this is still such a good video.
He is the storm that is approaching
Dmc3's story was so we'll delivered it retroactively made the story in 1 and the character progression in 2 better
I am from the future, Vergil has returned !
FUCK YEAH!!!
A. Long. Time. Coming. It finally arrived and it certainly lived up to my moderate expectations. While some fans love to call him overrated and the gaming media, press, and certain developers seems to outright dislike him and the series itself, I don't think you can deny that they did great with him in the 3rd game. Expanding a pretty cool boss from the first game into the second most memorable character in the entire series after Dante himself? You gotta clap that up.
Great video HBH. I just wish people would give this game and the series a chance before completely writing them off. Though as you said, let's just celebrate what we got.
I think this video deserves a update video since dmc 5 adds so much to virgil's and dante's for that matter, story and I was glad they decided to go with him as the villain as I think him being the final bad guy in this one cements his status as the series main villain since before this he was only the main bad guy in 1 out of the 4 and a mid game one in the first albeit in a different form. Now he's the only recurring main boss and they could have gone with someone like mundus or some new world threatening boss and put virgil in a minor role in likes vegata type roll. Which he still is kind of except he still is on the bad side and therefore still has room to develop since he ultimate wants and needs are still incomplete .whereas when this happened to vegeta he slowly got less and less screentime as he had nothing else to do. Now since they built on his role as antagonist if they want to go the vegeta route they'll have no to work with and a bigger change.
I hope for the next main title they switch up the gameplay and experiment with mixing or new genres something along the lines of god of war 2018 still has the core of god of war in it but exploring it in a different way.
And then he comes back in DMC5 to cement his presence as THE best video game character hands down. Because he felt like it. Seriously, just look at how much work they put into his theme! Dante's is... fine I guess, but Virgil's is something else entirely.
I think bringing Vergil back somehow in a post DMC1 game would be a disservice to his character. His stubbornness is his entire persona and what leads to his downfall at the end of 3 and his enslavement to Mundus, so to have Dante or Nero somehow find a way to rescue him and have everything be hunky dory would cheapen his character and story. Death has no weight when every great character is written out of it.
Wonder what you think of dmc 5 now.
@@ltv8433 I feel the same way I did then. It cheapens his character to try and redeem him at the end of DMC5 after he killed countless people through the events of the game. I loved the boss fight but from a story perspective bringing him back and trying to redeem him is awful.
Even though I have played the Devil May Cry series to death, you couldn't begin to understand how excited I was to see that you made a video on Vergil. He is one of my favorite videogame characters of all time and your videos have been some of my new favorites ever since I first stumbled upon you. Keep at it man.
FizzleBiscuit ok I'm really curious as to who ranks higher than virgil in your book. I mean he can single handedly demolish almost everyone in a millionth of a second
This game had such a good narrative. I was pretty ticked when everybody was praising Ninja Theory's reboot while ignoring this game. DmC had nowhere near the emotional connection this game gives you.
5:58, I don't know why, but you playing Bladewolf's theme from MGRR at that moment, made me laugh.
Rewatching this after seeing the DMC5 trailer, and I really want a DLC of Vergil traveling around the demon world and have the boss be Mundus.
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How can someone be exactly opposite to the cool badass protagonist and be even cooler and more badass?
I imagine if there is ever a continuation of Devil May Cry, Vergil is alive but he is lost. He could be in robes and roaming around cities, grizzled and broken. His sword could be a testament to that, it was in the hands of another that could help him find his path. I mean if Nero is able to fix Vergil's sword, its like a gesture that he could also fix Vergil. Just a theory I came up with just now.
So, you were kinda right
@@guillermogarcia7275 Fixing through familiar love
I shed a good tear when he came back in 5 I thought the neros song in 4 as you saw the malevolent blue light dissolve from around him “The alpha and Omega” nothing could’ve been better than that, truly, truly the best return
"Dante tries to stop vergil from falling"
Dmc3 vergil: leave me alone im staying this is our father's home
Dmc5 dante: you gonna need some help and someone to keep an eye for you
Vergil:.........
Edit: in the manga vergil was tortured and corrupted by mundus and mundus "removes his humanity" as he also think this is weakness
I would like to think Vergil found out he was gonna have a child than went out in search of more power just so he can protect his family and control the demon inside of him.
the theory came to me from what Vergil says to Dante "Might controls everything" also "and without strength, you can't protect anything. let alone yourself."
those quotes are something Vergil himself believes in. he may rejected his human side but couldn't not fully abandoned it either.
BadWolf2755 actually that quote is about how he couldn't protect his mother from being killed. gives you a bit of insight as to how his mind works
Vergil's fight theme song is so amazing! Right when i heard it my heart began beating fast!
my first devil may cry was the reboot, so when i finally got the hd collection i played through the first 3 games for the first time not knowing the stories and only knowing the central characters (dante, vergil, and mundus). seeing the twist reveal of who nelo angelo is completely blew my mind thanks to the context i had on what vergil was somewhat like.
“They could easily write around his supposed death”
I wonder what Mundus's thoughts were when a Son Of Sparda fell into his lap 10:57
With the power of being in the future, I'd say Capcom did him justice with DMC5.
I think Vergil is more a reluctant villain who falls down the path of corruption through pain of loss of his mother, he believes might makes right, and is the only way to protect those he cares about.
THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA
Dante & Vergil: "Jackpot!"
*Gunshot gets interrupted midway by a fucking unskippable 15 second advertisement*
Me: GODDAMN IT!
I just beat DMC3 on Tuesday. The ending really gave me the feels, and now I'm playing through DMC1. When I first fought him as Nelo, I just felt depressed on the inside and just makes me hate Mundus even more.
Hopefully mundus may die in 6
since Urizen is stronger than mundus
I remember playing DMC 3 as a kid. I always thought that Dante wanted Vergils amulet, but what he really wanted was to take his brother back with him.
been waiting for this a while... great work
hoping for DMC5 this TGS
Aw man he didn't include that stupid line at the end were Dante goes full anime and talks about his soul wanting to stop Vergil.
DMC3 is such a goddamn good game. Far exceeding its oodles of _styyyyle_ and combat mechanics.
5:57 Thank you for this gold
The Phantom Payne do you know what's that called ?
Space__Burrito have you played Metal gear Rising ? it is an OST of that.
I wish Vergil's ending in Marvel 3 had a better ending instead of him finding a sword.
Please do one of these for Jetstream Sam. I love how you take the opportunity to analyze the psyche of the villain, who, in my opinion, is always the most interesting character. Keep up the good work.
It would be nice if Vergil did get his own game, rather than getting the short end of the stick and just being a shoe in for more content on a game we already played. For me, he's just as likable as Dante, because of his totally opposite personality. While Dante is the lighthearted, fun loving badass, Vergil is the calm, cool, collected kind.
DMC 3 still has the best story in this series because of this sibling rivalry, and I'd really love to see more of it. At the very least, more development for Vergil.
I just hope the next sequel isn't of the one that tries to call itself Devil May Cry...
+Josh Davis you mean the one that calls itself Devil may Cry: Devil may Cry
seriously what were they thinking with that name
I wish I knew Bison. However, the SE of DMC4 gives me hope. :) We may see a Devil May Cry 5 yet
The end of dmc 5 is so heartwarming.
Devil may cry 5 is my own personal half life 3... I need it!
FullMetal Bat same 😢
Mine is WarCraft IV
FullMetal Bat agreed
same here
You got it
I really love how you incorporate actual cutscenes into your videos. It brings everything together so nicely.
DMC5 being about saving Vergil from the Demon world? I would LOVE to see that
Got my fucking wish, kind of
FUCK shouldntve looked at the replies im trying to avoid spoilers for dmc5 lol
Always impressed by how polished and well-written your videos are! Keep up the good work.
Lots of fans were incredulous about Nero being Vergil's son due to Nero being too old or whatever. But the new Special Edition clarified the timeline of the games since at the beginning of Vergil's opening cutscene the caption reads "Fortuna City: A few decades ago". And he catches the eye of that woman as he walks by, so I think the DMC4 SE cutscenes were intended to drop some subtle hints of how Nero came to be.
Plus, Dan Southworth directly said that Nero was Vergil's son shortly before DMC4 was even released, and nobody remembered it.
Wow I did not know that, thanks. I need to replay DMC4 again to be honest I only played it once so there is a lot I missed.
That was a translation error since in JP it says a decade ago.
This video is the absolute greatest gift you could ever give us!
THANK YOU!
I cannot appreciate you enough!
This video right here puts to rest all the bullshit some DmC fanboys spout when they say DMC3 Dante and Vergil have no character development. I want to puke in my mouth every time I hear such stupidity. Awesome video lol
GunGaleSinon People like them make me laugh
finally I am home
GunGaleSinon if you are a chick you have no Idea how lucky you are.
even though I remember thr story being B movie-like, I still have fond memories of just how badass Dante and Vergil's rivalry is. Awesome to see this video remind us all of what made Vergil such a cool character.