It's interesting how when Lanre becomes Haliax he is using the one "door of relief" that is left for him. His ability to forget, sleep or die has been stolen due to whatever transformation the Cthaeh put him through. And so, he choses the door of madness to soothe his mind. Great video!
No. Selitos says that what Lanre have isn't madness. Lanre was denied the door of madness as well. Lanre seeks the destruction of all things so, maybe, he can have peace
As usual, this video is superb. As per your theory in some other video, I too think that the Lanre who died is not the same one who returned to Lyra's call. He must be some malevolent spirit that entered Lanre's body. Every thing perfectly fits. You have a great imagination. I have a video request for you.. The Chandrian killed Kvothe's parents and troop as his father sang about the Chandrian and others heard it. Well, Abenthy too heard that song. And the massacre didn't happen immediately after that song. Roughly after two months time after the song. We don't hear of anything bad happening to Abenthy. Then they leave Kvothe. Even when we think that Chandrian were fleeing from a danger after killing Kvothe's family, they had a lot of opportunities when he was completely vulnerable in the woods and Tarbean. What protected Kvothe from the Chandrian? Regarding the malice of Cinder, I don't think they had been considerate to a small boy like Kvothe. What is the reason for leaving Abenthy and Kvothe unharmed? Would you make a video about this? Thank you.
long time fan of the series who is very impressed with your content. You have gained a subscriber in the hopes of seeing more. perhaps you could do a lore video on the rise and fall of the Aturan empire
Thanks! Soon I plan on making these lore videos the main focus of my channel, so there will be many more. Great idea about making one on the rise and fall of the Aturan empire!
Such a good video! For the size of your channel I didn't expect this level of quality and editing. Top notch stuff here! Guessing your channel will be huge in no time.
First read of KKC - Wow, what amazing books. Second read - How did I not notice this part the first time around. Third read - so many hidden secrets everywhere, damn you Pat for messing with my head! The more you read these books, the more you start to scratch beneath the surface and begin to uncover so many things you wouldn't even take notice of the first couple of times. Recommend any other similar fantasy books with similar writing style to Pats? I've been searching and reading many books since I read KKC about 3 years ago but nothing comes close. I did, however, really enjoy "The First Law" & "Shattered Sea" trilogies by Joe Abercrombie. Nothing like KKC, but amazing nonetheless.
Have you tried the stormlight archive? The first book is the way of kings by Brandon Sanderson- warning you’ll be hooked on his books if you start so be ready for a complex universe of books to search through 😉
Which is an AMAZING series!!! George R.R. Martin created a whole new World to explore and with great depth and wonders. With characters so real yet flawed and human. Excellent storytelling and writing!!!
I love this series. I'm really starting to worry that ol Pat has moved on to other things In his life and won't publish the last installment of the c series until he's 70 years old
Was it Lanre's new power that made him unable to die? I always thought it was a leftover side effect of Lyra having called him back from the dead. Like she inadvertently cursed him trying to save him. But I don't actually remember what the book said specifically.
Love your lore vids, pls do more of them, I think the KKC is an awesome book series that no one talks about in TH-cam Maybe make some videos about some theories you subscribe to and the reasons why? Some character explanation, going in depth about their personality and traits? Or something like “All we know about the Amyr” kinda thing Anyway, just a greedy fan looking for more KKC content to chew through XD In the meantime I’ll subscribe and watch a few book reviews, and maybe start a new series
Thank you! I just posted a new one! This one is a theory that Kvothe is a Lackless :) Great ideas, I will definitely be making some videos like that!I definitely want to make one on the Amyr soon... (sadly there's hardly any fanart of them though). I'm going to start making these type of videos the main focus of my channel, as they're the ones I enjoy making the most.
Well, this just made my day! I really look forward to seeing those videos Maybe ask some subscribers to do some fanart that you can use? (unfortunately I´m no Picasso, can´t help there) Anyway, glad you liked my ideas, keep up the awesome content!
Hmmm perhaps! *gestures slight amusement* However, " There is no pretending to understand the Lethani. It is like swimming. It is obvious to anyone watching if you really know the way of it." But I could give explaining it a shot! ;)
Thats the confusing bit cuz 1 city survived but it is not Myr Tarniel. The enemy poisoned 7 supposedly but who is the enemy. Lanre or Iax. I think Lanre did not destroy his own city because he briefly remembered the Lethani because Iax's control over him is not total as can be seen when he briefly comes to his senses and asks Selito's to kill him which he cannot do because Iax has made him Immortal.
I'm so late, but you killed it again Jay! That flannel is awesome btw, you might be the next Winchester in Supernatural soon if you keep going after these monsters and topics like this ahaha! Love it
The confusing part of this all is the unreliable narrator. I think this is definitely the point by Rothfuss because this story is supposed to be about the unreliability of stories... Thus we can't really take anything as Canon. Even Kote say's that he like's to embellish a bit from time to time for the story...(on which it has already been embellished plenty!) It's more of an adventure of humanity and how outliers can be idolized without true merit, even to the extremes of Kvothe who's story has become bigger than himself.
Correction: 1) Myr Tariniel is the greatest but not the last 2) Myr Tariniel was destroyed with six other cities. One survived. You have corrected on your other video.
thank you... I didn't pay attention enough to this in the books - lots of info here I didn't remember - p.s. I think it sounds better as Kvothe than 'K-vothe
Wow, randomly found your channel, love the way you present and will definitely subscribe. Also neat that you live in BC too. I was curious if you are thinking about doing a video about the waystones, how they lead to Fae, and perhaps Myr Tariniel? And have you listened to the audiobook read by Nick Podehl? The way he pronounces some of the names are different from your videos. Also, listening to it brings a different perspective, you hear things I would have missed reading (Auri, Ariel). Keep up the amazing videos.
Thank you! I'm happy you found my channel! Oh wow that's awesome you're from BC as well! Yes, I definitely plan on doing a video on the waystones and discussing all the theories about them (hmm actually I might make a video on that soon). I'm actually listening to the audio books right now, and really enjoying them :) I still have to work on some of the pronunciations, especially Kvothe. For the life of me I can't pronounce his name properly XD I've listened to Pat say it, and heard the audio book, but I still find his name hard to pronounce.
seven things has lady Lackless keeps them underneath her black dress ... ... she's been dreaming and _not sleeping_" I've been wondering if the not sleeping part has any connection to Lanre/Heliax ? maybe Lyra was the first Lady Lackless? Are Hel_iax_ and iax connected somehow? and iax=jax who stole the moon and put it in the Lackless box... ? just some things that seem somehow connected but i can't quiet make out how
Idk if anyone will read this but anyway... i am re reading the name of the wind and i noticed Selitos said that there were only a few namers who were as good as him and i just noticed that one of them is Iax yet in this video it is said that Iax was a shaper? Could someone explain it to me please?
I know i'm a little late but, in the end of the video you say that we could ask for a lore video. i haven't found anything about Taborlin, and something that caught My attention is the fact that in his first mention (Name of the wind chapter 1) Cob says that Taborlin had a couple of curious items: A Key, a candle and a coin. I have to check but if i'm not wrong, Auri gave prettymuch the same things to Kvothe. I know is a small thing and that it could be missleading, but what if Taborlin is actually foreshadowing Kvothe or something similar? (And sorry for my English, hope u understand what i'm trying to say)
How did I not get this all out of the books? Or maybe it is because I read these books over a year ago... I recognised a lot and now I feel doom coming for what will happen on book three. It is inevitable out arrogant Kvothe is going to do something incredibly stupid or otherwise scaring to the people...
Ammalyrical Haha well a lot of it is told in fragments by different people in the books, so it's easy not to get it all at first! Once it's pieced together though it's very interesting ^_^ and yes I agree, I can sense doom coming with the third book
Destroy the world? And where will you live later? What a stupid goal for a villain. Thats what Patrick Rothfuss said in an interview. Haliax doesn't want to destroy the world. It's a half truth. He actually wants to destroy the fae world. That's why he hoped Selitos to join him.
The Cthaeh isn't the tree but rather a creature in the tree. It is kept in the tree by Fae who are tasked with not letting anyone leave after talking to the Cthaeh, even going so far as to killing them with arrows from a distance, letting the body rot where it lies and even killing animals that attempts to eat from the body. (According to Bast) So I don't think cutting the tree down would help. Most likely it would just make it easier for the Chtaeh to flee and then cause more havoc.
The "ia" in Iax's name is the phonetic predecessor of the "j" sound in English. The story of Jax stealing the moon is almost definitely a version of Iax pulling the moon into Fae.
There were 8 cities, Lanre destroyed Myr Tarineiel, the other 6 of the Chandrian each betrayed and destroyed another city, the 8th city remained because the last guy "remembered the Lethani and didn't betray a city".
Has anyone else noticed that Rothfuss made a mistake with Fela's rank... she was promoted from Re'lar to Re'lar... in the name of the wind master Killin calls her re'lar fela after the fire... and master elodin promotes her to re'lar after she makes her ring.... she should be an El'the
No you misunderstand. Re'lar means "namer". Elodin was saying "now that you have mastered a name you can be called a namer, or re'lar." Also, elodin couldn't have just MADE her a re'lar, elodin would have to bring up the matter to the other masters to get a vote.
Autumn Rose thats actually a cool thought, being that taking out one's eye is a symbol of wisdom in our own world's lore! My only issue is that the C'thae is portrayed as a jerk, and S* wasn't portrayed as such.
Sorry mate but Rothfuss himself said in one of his videos that the Name ist kvothe as in "quothe" Not "k-vothe" really makes me feel uncomfortable hearing the majority of TH-camrs pronouncing it that way...
Uhmm how? Most of my info (besides just reading the books themselves) came from the official Kingkiller wikia page. Now that this video is a bit older I realise there's a few more things I could have mentioned, but I struggle to see how it's "completely wrong"
The Cthaeh is probably the most powerful and influential being in all of the series, thing is creepy af.
the cthaeh is too op and it scares me. also takes the fun out of everything
I think the Cthaeh knows the name of time so it can see through peoples future and is able to change them.
DAMN!!!! What an awesome video!!! Keep making these lore videos they are the best KingKiller videos on TH-cam!
OriginalHuman Thank you! :D
It's interesting how when Lanre becomes Haliax he is using the one "door of relief" that is left for him. His ability to forget, sleep or die has been stolen due to whatever transformation the Cthaeh put him through. And so, he choses the door of madness to soothe his mind.
Great video!
No. Selitos says that what Lanre have isn't madness. Lanre was denied the door of madness as well. Lanre seeks the destruction of all things so, maybe, he can have peace
@@joaofarias9986 You're right. I'd forgotten about that! Makes you (almost) feel sorry for Lanre somehow
Hated, Hopeless, Sleepless, Sane. Alaxel bears the shadows hame.
@@claytonalexander9105 The Chandrian wants to know your location
Whoa you put all this into perspective, like finally solving a puzzle.
As usual, this video is superb. As per your theory in some other video, I too think that the Lanre who died is not the same one who returned to Lyra's call. He must be some malevolent spirit that entered Lanre's body. Every thing perfectly fits. You have a great imagination.
I have a video request for you.. The Chandrian killed Kvothe's parents and troop as his father sang about the Chandrian and others heard it.
Well, Abenthy too heard that song. And the massacre didn't happen immediately after that song. Roughly after two months time after the song. We don't hear of anything bad happening to Abenthy. Then they leave Kvothe.
Even when we think that Chandrian were fleeing from a danger after killing Kvothe's family, they had a lot of opportunities when he was completely vulnerable in the woods and Tarbean.
What protected Kvothe from the Chandrian? Regarding the malice of Cinder, I don't think they had been considerate to a small boy like Kvothe.
What is the reason for leaving Abenthy and Kvothe unharmed? Would you make a video about this?
Thank you.
I came across your channel recently and I’m absolutely loving your content. Keep up the good work. It’s much appreciated. Thanks.
Thank you! Will do!
long time fan of the series who is very impressed with your content. You have gained a subscriber in the hopes of seeing more. perhaps you could do a lore video on the rise and fall of the Aturan empire
Thanks! Soon I plan on making these lore videos the main focus of my channel, so there will be many more. Great idea about making one on the rise and fall of the Aturan empire!
You indeed have the best artwork I've ever seen. Keep videos coming hero.
Such a good video! For the size of your channel I didn't expect this level of quality and editing. Top notch stuff here! Guessing your channel will be huge in no time.
Thank you, I really appreciate it!!
First read of KKC - Wow, what amazing books. Second read - How did I not notice this part the first time around. Third read - so many hidden secrets everywhere, damn you Pat for messing with my head!
The more you read these books, the more you start to scratch beneath the surface and begin to uncover so many things you wouldn't even take notice of the first couple of times.
Recommend any other similar fantasy books with similar writing style to Pats? I've been searching and reading many books since I read KKC about 3 years ago but nothing comes close. I did, however, really enjoy "The First Law" & "Shattered Sea" trilogies by Joe Abercrombie. Nothing like KKC, but amazing nonetheless.
Anything from Brandon Sanderson!
Have you tried the stormlight archive? The first book is the way of kings by Brandon Sanderson- warning you’ll be hooked on his books if you start so be ready for a complex universe of books to search through 😉
I enjoy a lot the Louise Cooper "Lord of no time" trilogy.
Theres A Song of Ice and Fire
Which is an AMAZING series!!! George R.R. Martin created a whole new World to explore and with great depth and wonders. With characters so real yet flawed and human. Excellent storytelling and writing!!!
I love this series. I'm really starting to worry that ol Pat has moved on to other things In his life and won't publish the last installment of the c series until he's 70 years old
Was it Lanre's new power that made him unable to die? I always thought it was a leftover side effect of Lyra having called him back from the dead. Like she inadvertently cursed him trying to save him. But I don't actually remember what the book said specifically.
No. What happened was lanre went looking for some power so he could bring Lyra back and he got this weird thing instead and it won't let him die
A very well short description! Thanks
Love your lore vids, pls do more of them, I think the KKC is an awesome book series that no one talks about in TH-cam
Maybe make some videos about some theories you subscribe to and the reasons why?
Some character explanation, going in depth about their personality and traits?
Or something like “All we know about the Amyr” kinda thing
Anyway, just a greedy fan looking for more KKC content to chew through XD
In the meantime I’ll subscribe and watch a few book reviews, and maybe start a new series
Thank you! I just posted a new one! This one is a theory that Kvothe is a Lackless :)
Great ideas, I will definitely be making some videos like that!I definitely want to make one on the Amyr soon... (sadly there's hardly any fanart of them though). I'm going to start making these type of videos the main focus of my channel, as they're the ones I enjoy making the most.
Well, this just made my day! I really look forward to seeing those videos
Maybe ask some subscribers to do some fanart that you can use? (unfortunately I´m no Picasso, can´t help there)
Anyway, glad you liked my ideas, keep up the awesome content!
You will be doing a video on the Lethani. Notice how that wasn't a question. ;) :D
Hmmm perhaps! *gestures slight amusement* However, " There is no pretending to understand the Lethani. It is like swimming. It is obvious to anyone watching if you really know the way of it." But I could give explaining it a shot! ;)
Buddy, are you a Knower or Shaper?
@@DanielPschaida hes a namer
Nice video my friend, thanks for making it
Didn't he gather 7 followers? And one remembered the Lethani and didn't destroy a city, thus bringing the number down to 6?
Thats the confusing bit cuz 1 city survived but it is not Myr Tarniel. The enemy poisoned 7 supposedly but who is the enemy. Lanre or Iax. I think Lanre did not destroy his own city because he briefly remembered the Lethani because Iax's control over him is not total as can be seen when he briefly comes to his senses and asks Selito's to kill him which he cannot do because Iax has made him Immortal.
My guess for the 7th city would be Tinue.
could you make a video about the story that skarpi was telling before he got arrested?
I haven't read a lot of fantasy but I've loved reading the stories told in these two books.
I'm so late, but you killed it again Jay! That flannel is awesome btw, you might be the next Winchester in Supernatural soon if you keep going after these monsters and topics like this ahaha! Love it
Haha thanks so much! ^_^
You used great artwork! Keep them coming!
Thanks I like these and they are very helpful especially considering how long its been since reading these its a nice refresher
The Saint 08D I'm glad these act as a nice refresher! ^_^
The confusing part of this all is the unreliable narrator. I think this is definitely the point by Rothfuss because this story is supposed to be about the unreliability of stories... Thus we can't really take anything as Canon. Even Kote say's that he like's to embellish a bit from time to time for the story...(on which it has already been embellished plenty!) It's more of an adventure of humanity and how outliers can be idolized without true merit, even to the extremes of Kvothe who's story has become bigger than himself.
God, hearing someone so beautiful talking about the Kingkiller Chronicle is just 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 #HusbandMaterial hahaha
Myr Tariniel is not the last city, but one of the 7 destroyed. The 8th was not destroyed and is rumored to be Renere. (As far as I know)
Correction:
1) Myr Tariniel is the greatest but not the last
2) Myr Tariniel was destroyed with six other cities. One survived.
You have corrected on your other video.
That's some excellent fan art.
Love the art work
thank you... I didn't pay attention enough to this in the books - lots of info here I didn't remember - p.s. I think it sounds better as Kvothe than 'K-vothe
Please continue the series
One city survived though remember because 1 remembered the Lethani. Any Idea who that was? Great video though
Wow, randomly found your channel, love the way you present and will definitely subscribe. Also neat that you live in BC too.
I was curious if you are thinking about doing a video about the waystones, how they lead to Fae, and perhaps Myr Tariniel?
And have you listened to the audiobook read by Nick Podehl? The way he pronounces some of the names are different from your videos. Also, listening to it brings a different perspective, you hear things I would have missed reading (Auri, Ariel).
Keep up the amazing videos.
Thank you! I'm happy you found my channel! Oh wow that's awesome you're from BC as well!
Yes, I definitely plan on doing a video on the waystones and discussing all the theories about them (hmm actually I might make a video on that soon). I'm actually listening to the audio books right now, and really enjoying them :) I still have to work on some of the pronunciations, especially Kvothe. For the life of me I can't pronounce his name properly XD I've listened to Pat say it, and heard the audio book, but I still find his name hard to pronounce.
Auri is such a Knower!
cool vid! :)
According to rothfuss, that isn´t how you pronounce Kvothe though- just saying ;)
i seem to remember that taborlin the great may have a silver or copper sword .....could be Iax
seven things has lady Lackless
keeps them underneath her black dress ...
... she's been dreaming and _not sleeping_"
I've been wondering if the not sleeping part has any connection to Lanre/Heliax ? maybe Lyra was the first Lady Lackless? Are Hel_iax_ and iax connected somehow? and iax=jax who stole the moon and put it in the Lackless box... ?
just some things that seem somehow connected but i can't quiet make out how
Idk if anyone will read this but anyway... i am re reading the name of the wind and i noticed Selitos said that there were only a few namers who were as good as him and i just noticed that one of them is Iax yet in this video it is said that Iax was a shaper? Could someone explain it to me please?
He destroyed 6 of the 7... not 7 of the 8. And I have a feeling that's connected/significant to the 6 chandrian he gathered.
Do we know if Lanre, Lira, and Selitos were fighting on the side of the Knowers or Shapers or if the Creation War wasn't purely Knowers vs. Shapers?
I want to watch this but I haven't read the second book yet and hate being spoiled 😭😭
Simon H Probably better to wait, because there is a few spoilers! Thanks for showing support though!
I know i'm a little late but, in the end of the video you say that we could ask for a lore video. i haven't found anything about Taborlin, and something that caught My attention is the fact that in his first mention (Name of the wind chapter 1) Cob says that Taborlin had a couple of curious items: A Key, a candle and a coin. I have to check but if i'm not wrong, Auri gave prettymuch the same things to Kvothe. I know is a small thing and that it could be missleading, but what if Taborlin is actually foreshadowing Kvothe or something similar? (And sorry for my English, hope u understand what i'm trying to say)
any certainty of what or who was the great beast he defeated and locked away?
I just noticed that Haliax ends with Iax ... hm ...
How did I not get this all out of the books?
Or maybe it is because I read these books over a year ago... I recognised a lot and now I feel doom coming for what will happen on book three. It is inevitable out arrogant Kvothe is going to do something incredibly stupid or otherwise scaring to the people...
Ammalyrical Haha well a lot of it is told in fragments by different people in the books, so it's easy not to get it all at first! Once it's pieced together though it's very interesting ^_^ and yes I agree, I can sense doom coming with the third book
0:50 could Iax be Jax? The kid from the story?
Thank you!!! Can't wait for the next video ❤🇮🇱
What is the chapter when princess Ariel is mentioned?
This was awesome! :D
Thanks man! :D
You are welcome! :D
Destroy the world? And where will you live later? What a stupid goal for a villain. Thats what Patrick Rothfuss said in an interview. Haliax doesn't want to destroy the world. It's a half truth. He actually wants to destroy the fae world. That's why he hoped Selitos to join him.
LOL the book CLEARLY states and makes it a point, in the first Chapter how to pronounce his name, kay_vo_th
Hammie that you?
These are defo becoming my favorite booktube vids I agree with your man down below (OriginalHuman) Best Kingkiller videos on youtube! :D
Graham Quigley Thanks so much :D There are plenty more to come!
Almost three Years but thanks to the person that did the spanish subs
thank you
Didn't anyone think of just cutting the tree down?
Is that possible? Wouldn't the Ctheah know the name of tree?
The Cthaeh isn't the tree but rather a creature in the tree. It is kept in the tree by Fae who are tasked with not letting anyone leave after talking to the Cthaeh, even going so far as to killing them with arrows from a distance, letting the body rot where it lies and even killing animals that attempts to eat from the body. (According to Bast) So I don't think cutting the tree down would help. Most likely it would just make it easier for the Chtaeh to flee and then cause more havoc.
What about building a giant dome around it, and write: "WARNING, IF U TALK, U DIE"
Hahah, that should work. But the Fae are unfortunately not so straightforward.
Where does it say iax is Jax? All I can find in the books is the story where Jax steals the moon
Really accepted theory
The "ia" in Iax's name is the phonetic predecessor of the "j" sound in English. The story of Jax stealing the moon is almost definitely a version of Iax pulling the moon into Fae.
Bast says it when he realizes Kvothe met the Ctheah.
Kvothe approves ...
This creation story has more credibility than the Judeo Christian tall tale. Rothfuss is a more tangible prophet
Lax...Jax...jakis?
Who's here from the subreddit?
One thing thou:
He destroyed 6 cities. He was destroying the 7-th....
The last city is Lanre's city which was never confirmed as destroyed.
There were 8 cities, Lanre destroyed Myr Tarineiel, the other 6 of the Chandrian each betrayed and destroyed another city, the 8th city remained because the last guy "remembered the Lethani and didn't betray a city".
Has anyone else noticed that Rothfuss made a mistake with Fela's rank... she was promoted from Re'lar to Re'lar... in the name of the wind master Killin calls her re'lar fela after the fire... and master elodin promotes her to re'lar after she makes her ring.... she should be an El'the
No you misunderstand. Re'lar means "namer". Elodin was saying "now that you have mastered a name you can be called a namer, or re'lar." Also, elodin couldn't have just MADE her a re'lar, elodin would have to bring up the matter to the other masters to get a vote.
I use to think the Ctaeh was selitos
Autumn Rose thats actually a cool thought, being that taking out one's eye is a symbol of wisdom in our own world's lore! My only issue is that the C'thae is portrayed as a jerk, and S* wasn't portrayed as such.
Nathan Sonnenfeld that and selitos is male but kvothe addresses the Ctaeh as a women.
Sorry mate but Rothfuss himself said in one of his videos that the Name ist kvothe as in "quothe" Not "k-vothe" really makes me feel uncomfortable hearing the majority of TH-camrs pronouncing it that way...
Uuugh, the fact that you say "kuh-vothe" really keeps me annoyed throughout these videos... IT'S KVOTHE, NOT KUH-VOTHE!
Wow, that's like completely wrong.
Uhmm how? Most of my info (besides just reading the books themselves) came from the official Kingkiller wikia page. Now that this video is a bit older I realise there's a few more things I could have mentioned, but I struggle to see how it's "completely wrong"
Oh, sorry. You are quite right. I was high.
Odiee47 XD it's all good