Holy smokes, I loved every second of this...would certainly love to have stayed for Part 2, but alas, it's exclusive. Learned a TON and I'll be listening to this one again. Cheers, friends!
Would you ever consider releasing your old patreon exclusives on youtube? Like the ones from last year or similar offset. I've really appreciated the podcasts to help introduce me to more concrete theory other than reading texts and listening to interpretations of these texts. Thanks for being a place for theory and philosophy and exposure to very interesting and enlightening guests.
Most likely not. Because I want to offer Patrons something valuable in return for helping me sustain this financially. Plus the concept of the “the backroom” is sort of a part 2 podcast to every podcast I do, in which the guest can say things that they may not be willing to say on a larger public platform.
There is a hell of a lot of information here. Varn seems to know a lot about this massive constellation / family tree (sorry for mixed metaphors) of political movements. Someone could make a really fancy flow chart of all this. I know only a tiny percent of these groups, it's pretty interesting and could probably be helpful to contextualizing today's weird discourse. I tend to see today's weird discourse in an isolated and disorienting way, so this kind history can be very valuable in order to make more sense of it. I'm not sure what Varn's own positions are, but I'll look into more of his stuff.
Yeah this particular episode may be a little harder to follow for those new to the history of the left. If only Varn would write a book on the history of the American left alone that would be a game changer
Yes thank you if I knew how to make charts and had the time or a group chat comes together between us two and maybe others it could be really helpful as a pedagogical tool
Really appreciate this one as someone who is fairly new to youtube leftism. Rockhill certainly comes across as a bit conspiratorial and I always left his lectures feeling like I hit a wall because he closes far more doors than he opens (outside of telling people to read losurdo (ps, is losurdo worth reading?))
Idk if he’s a non-SEXtarian.. he’s in some kind of weird Utah style polycule, or something like that based on things I’ve heard him say. Def the best non-sectarian Marxist though!
Varn talks to people from just about every tendency, I don’t see why he wouldn’t, however begrudging he might be towards some things they might say. Then again, I’ve seen him talk to people I know he has real political disagreement with, and he doesn’t hide his views, but he’s very kind and charitable.
59:20 1Dime lore drop? 1:23:37 The Sputnik Moment. The launch of Sputnik 1 triggered a little crisis in the US, which led to the US state poured billions into the education system.
About midway through: I don’t think you get how Mussolini became a Fascist because he was a sellout. Fascism does and always has served the interests of Capital, first and foremost, and Mussolini became inordinately wealthy by creating a politics that undermined the Italian Left and used violence to secure the dominant position of Capital... Read some of Kautsky's early works for more on Fascism and Capital. You guys clearly hate the idea of calling anyone a sellout, but this is friggin' Mussolini you're talking!
Really enjoy all of your previous videos but this one gave me a weird vibe. I never knew Varn before this video and probably need to look at his other work. If I had to put it into words the best example would be Varn highlighting his online fights with people. Feeling very terminally online and contrarian for its on sake a pessimistic vibe. Something I am struggling with is how do you critique left groups without making people feel hopeless to change things…. I think that is what my issue is. Gotta sit with this but happy to listen and thanks Varn for sharing!
When I first discovered Varn circa 2018/2019, I learned a lot, but I really didn’t care for a lot of his opinions on current politics, bc I felt it was too pessimistic, and it contradicted things I was still clinging too at the time. I too got a “weird vibe”, as jn thinking he was just too much a contrarian. These few years later, I’ve had to accept the fact that most of Varn’s critiques were actually correct on many of the issues I thought he seemed too pessimistic about. Maybe he sometimes IS a contrarian on some issues, but I’ve found that over time, as I see things play out, that it’s coming from the fact he’s just way more well read on theory and history than I am, and he’s often correct. I’ve now been a viewer of Varn Vlog for a few years, and a patron for maybe a little more than a year. I recommend watching his channel, even if you do so primarily for learning, while taking the position that he’s too pessimistic and negative. I did that initially, and considered it valuable to have a contrary opinion from a well read left standpoint, even if he often annoyed me. I watched him with that mindset for a solid year, before begrudgingly accepting that his channel (especially with the amount of Patron content) was probably where I’d learn more than any other single channel, even when I disagreed with some current political critique. Varn is flawed like everyone is, but of the top 3 left/marxist channels I always suggest to people to deepen and broaden their knowledge, he’s consistently in that lot. Cheers ✊✌️
@@nikolademitri731what are the other 2 channels that make up your top 3? (appreciate your comment btw! unfamiliar w the man and was curious, definitely going to give a follow and check out his work)
As vague fan/follower of varn for years, I get this reaction but he's well worth checking out, one of the most well read intellectually curious and rigorous people in the "online left". He gets spicy and his cynicism can be intense but I think it's a natural reaction to having been involved in left politics as long as he has and seeing so many orgs/movements go belly up
A quick search of the pdf of Carlos Garrido's book reveals no mention of the Khmer Rouge or Cambodia. Not sure if this guy is deliberately lying, but seems like he needs a severe fact check...
1:28:40 how was the Trotskyist theory of soviet collapse wrong? The bureaucracy brought the system to a screeching halt. That sounds correct to me. That was fundementally what Trotsky predicted.
Midwestern Marx is absolutely a “maga communist”. Idk why he said he wasn’t. He’s even doing everything they do. Taking a TH-cam channel and calling it some “institute”. So Maupin-esque.
@@jcoprario967 They also annoyed the shit outa me when they asserted Midwestern Marx guys of simping for Russia. It infuriates me how so many on the left are so either uninformed or misinformed about the historical context surrounded Russia and th current Ukrainian government leading up to and since Russia's invasion two and a half years ago. And whenever anybody actually discusses that conflict in a fair and balanced manor and willing to admit that regardless of how awful Putin and the Russian government may be, (and they're both pretty awful from a communists' perspective), but the vast majority of the reasons that Russia gave for invading are simply the truth. I mean obviously they're taking the facts that best support they're narrative, but the facts are the facts. There are plenty of leftists saying the same thing, from Aaron Mate, to Chris Hedges, to Max Blumenthal, to Danny Heiphong, the Due Dissodence guys, to those at RBN, along with plenty of experts who aren't radicals in the slightest - like Stephen Cohen, Jeffrey Sachs, and John Mearsheimer. And though i personally don't support what Russia did by invading, but i certainly understand why and their given justification is valid. Of course if one ever fuckin mentions this reality, far too many fellow leftists have a kneejerk response to join in on the neo-McCarthyist smearing of those telling the truth by labelling them as Putin-Apologists and shit. And it's even more outrageous to label them being China-simps too, just because they talk positively about China and it's system. Listen, i have a ton of criticisms of both China and the guys at Midwestern Marx, but this shit-lib tankie-bashing bullshit just annoys the fuck outa me. Especially seeing as how 1Dime has put out a shit ton of great content over the years, especially when it comes to mmt. He does a great job explaining what it is, which is something i wish other fellow leftists would watch because sadly - most of them love bashing mmt. But when they do, they demonstrate - that they all almost to a tie - simply have no fuckin clue what mmt even is, let alone making decent arguments against it. And that's just one topic, he's done a great job on a lot of shit. Which is why this sorta shit is especially frustrating for me. Sorry for the rant
Claremont is west coast Straussian a la Harry V Jaffa in its origins. It has developed, but not identical to Dineen or Vermeule. There is a conservative Xian (Catholic and/or Protestant) aspect, and there is a libertarian aspect. Perhaps not a coherent ideological party line. In practice maybe “fighting” like Dineen and Vermeule, and shares similar concerns with First Things. But not identical.
Ha! I had no Idea varn came from the crusty punk milieu. I was in that scene to some extent at roughly same time with people in the PNW. I Wonder if we have any friends in common.
@1DimeRadio Maoism? I thought Mao was more like into Fascism (this was based on what Aaron Bastani from Novara Media and Slavoj Zizek interview) but as you may know I one of those people who do not know much history about the left but identify as an Anarchist lol
This is the kind of guy who you don't know if they're going to be a Marxist or a Conservative next week. They jump wildly from one thing to another. But he really knows a lot and you can certainly learn something from listening to him.
'MAGA Communism' doesn't try to appeal to the ideological propaganda machine against other countries BECAUSE IT ISN'T TAILIST. When will you learn. Also "Early Bolshevism" had a more complicated position with regard to sexuality than its theoretical glass of water stance implies. Wish I had more to chew on here but not paying just for the less than 1% chance of seeing a novel critique.
Maga communism is just fascism. We’ve seen this move play out before. A world war was taught because of it. The flame of that “movement”needs to be stomped out before it can spread.
MAGA Communism is to the Trump wing of the Republican Party what DSA is to the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Just because MAGA Communists don't think they are Tailist doesn't change the fact they are.
The first 20 minutes is Varn telling his personal story because the host asked him about it. Varn is a sage of socialist history & marxist theory. Probably check yourself and just hear him out before taking shots.
Listen to the Part 2 "MAGA Communism" episode in The Backroom exclusive podcast on Patreon: www.patreon.com/OneDime
I am a simple man. I see an interview featuring Mr. Varn, I click.
They call him Mr. Varn!
that makes you very, very convaluted man
Holy smokes, I loved every second of this...would certainly love to have stayed for Part 2, but alas, it's exclusive. Learned a TON and I'll be listening to this one again. Cheers, friends!
Can always become a patron for as low as 5 bucks (: thats like the price of one large coffee at Starbucks today lol
@@1DimeRadio There's the plug!!! :) You got it!
@@falsificationismit’s very worth it, I can assure you!
Would you ever consider releasing your old patreon exclusives on youtube? Like the ones from last year or similar offset. I've really appreciated the podcasts to help introduce me to more concrete theory other than reading texts and listening to interpretations of these texts. Thanks for being a place for theory and philosophy and exposure to very interesting and enlightening guests.
Most likely not. Because I want to offer Patrons something valuable in return for helping me sustain this financially. Plus the concept of the “the backroom” is sort of a part 2 podcast to every podcast I do, in which the guest can say things that they may not be willing to say on a larger public platform.
Great episode! Bring Varn back for sure, it would also be fun to see a Tony and Eddie or Carlos conversation play out
Varn looks like an esoteric soviet intellectual that died in the 20s or something
Дерик Варнович Варнов
@@anyoneattheendoftime4932Mr. Baphobny Baphob
He kinda looks like a young(ish) Bakunin
he looks like an old school RPG dungeon master basement dwelling nerd
I regret defending Brand against anarchists attacking him about 2016.
This was fantastic. Thank you
There is a hell of a lot of information here. Varn seems to know a lot about this massive constellation / family tree (sorry for mixed metaphors) of political movements. Someone could make a really fancy flow chart of all this. I know only a tiny percent of these groups, it's pretty interesting and could probably be helpful to contextualizing today's weird discourse. I tend to see today's weird discourse in an isolated and disorienting way, so this kind history can be very valuable in order to make more sense of it. I'm not sure what Varn's own positions are, but I'll look into more of his stuff.
Yeah this particular episode may be a little harder to follow for those new to the history of the left. If only Varn would write a book on the history of the American left alone that would be a game changer
@@1DimeRadio That would be really cool.
@@1DimeRadio Varn book should have flowchart showing various political sects
@@zainmudassir2964 Hell, even just a collab with the UsefulCharts guy
Yes thank you if I knew how to make charts and had the time or a group chat comes together between us two and maybe others it could be really helpful as a pedagogical tool
...the first part with varn relating his political history, it reminded me of the spirit of that old film, My Dinner with Andre 😂 💥cinema💥
This is fundamental knowledge and deep 😮
Losurdos Hegel and the freedom of moderns has a joseph buttigieg quote praising it on the back
Really appreciate this one as someone who is fairly new to youtube leftism. Rockhill certainly comes across as a bit conspiratorial and I always left his lectures feeling like I hit a wall because he closes far more doors than he opens (outside of telling people to read losurdo (ps, is losurdo worth reading?))
I need a history book of the left from Varn. He's probably the best non-sextarian Marxists out there.
Idk if he’s a non-SEXtarian.. he’s in some kind of weird Utah style polycule, or something like that based on things I’ve heard him say. Def the best non-sectarian Marxist though!
JReg catching strays
Nah Jreg is a homie
Wow it's varn.
Hope he makes it on the Deprogram podcast
Why would he go on a tankie podcast
You’re here watching a podcast about socialist tendencies but calling people out as tankies? Are you even leftists?
Would love to see that.
Varn talks to people from just about every tendency, I don’t see why he wouldn’t, however begrudging he might be towards some things they might say. Then again, I’ve seen him talk to people I know he has real political disagreement with, and he doesn’t hide his views, but he’s very kind and charitable.
@@DJonoNeedsaJobtankie? They’re dentists.
59:20 1Dime lore drop?
1:23:37 The Sputnik Moment. The launch of Sputnik 1 triggered a little crisis in the US, which led to the US state poured billions into the education system.
About midway through: I don’t think you get how Mussolini became a Fascist because he was a sellout. Fascism does and always has served the interests of Capital, first and foremost, and Mussolini became inordinately wealthy by creating a politics that undermined the Italian Left and used violence to secure the dominant position of Capital...
Read some of Kautsky's early works for more on Fascism and Capital. You guys clearly hate the idea of calling anyone a sellout, but this is friggin' Mussolini you're talking!
1dime how do you feel about being the Shannon sharpe or Lex Fridman of the left?
Ive definitely thought about it
Varn the 🐐
One dime, your dad sounds awesome
He is my leftist dad
Really enjoy all of your previous videos but this one gave me a weird vibe.
I never knew Varn before this video and probably need to look at his other work.
If I had to put it into words the best example would be Varn highlighting his online fights with people. Feeling very terminally online and contrarian for its on sake a pessimistic vibe. Something I am struggling with is how do you critique left groups without making people feel hopeless to change things…. I think that is what my issue is.
Gotta sit with this but happy to listen and thanks Varn for sharing!
When I first discovered Varn circa 2018/2019, I learned a lot, but I really didn’t care for a lot of his opinions on current politics, bc I felt it was too pessimistic, and it contradicted things I was still clinging too at the time. I too got a “weird vibe”, as jn thinking he was just too much a contrarian. These few years later, I’ve had to accept the fact that most of Varn’s critiques were actually correct on many of the issues I thought he seemed too pessimistic about. Maybe he sometimes IS a contrarian on some issues, but I’ve found that over time, as I see things play out, that it’s coming from the fact he’s just way more well read on theory and history than I am, and he’s often correct.
I’ve now been a viewer of Varn Vlog for a few years, and a patron for maybe a little more than a year. I recommend watching his channel, even if you do so primarily for learning, while taking the position that he’s too pessimistic and negative. I did that initially, and considered it valuable to have a contrary opinion from a well read left standpoint, even if he often annoyed me. I watched him with that mindset for a solid year, before begrudgingly accepting that his channel (especially with the amount of Patron content) was probably where I’d learn more than any other single channel, even when I disagreed with some current political critique. Varn is flawed like everyone is, but of the top 3 left/marxist channels I always suggest to people to deepen and broaden their knowledge, he’s consistently in that lot. Cheers ✊✌️
@@nikolademitri731what are the other 2 channels that make up your top 3? (appreciate your comment btw! unfamiliar w the man and was curious, definitely going to give a follow and check out his work)
As vague fan/follower of varn for years, I get this reaction but he's well worth checking out, one of the most well read intellectually curious and rigorous people in the "online left".
He gets spicy and his cynicism can be intense but I think it's a natural reaction to having been involved in left politics as long as he has and seeing so many orgs/movements go belly up
@@nikolademitri731What are the other two?
I appreciate the manual subtitles, but there are a lot of errors due to names being misheard.
Its not manual subtitles. I have an My editing program automatically does the transcription
@@1DimeRadio Oooh I see. Thanks for the reply!
A quick search of the pdf of Carlos Garrido's book reveals no mention of the Khmer Rouge or Cambodia. Not sure if this guy is deliberately lying, but seems like he needs a severe fact check...
Varn looks like Shaun King haha. Great convo tho
They call him “the black Shaun King”
20:10 I would not call The Party for Socialism and Liberation or Workers World "Anti-Revisionists" or "Neo-Stalinist"
1:28:40 how was the Trotskyist theory of soviet collapse wrong? The bureaucracy brought the system to a screeching halt. That sounds correct to me. That was fundementally what Trotsky predicted.
Reformers like Gorbachev and Yeltsin wanted to break with the system and purged old bureaucracy.
Modern Russia will not make same mistake
Agree with ya on maga communism, however - couldn't disagree with you more when it comes to your analysis/criticisms of Midwestern Marx
Midwestern Marx is absolutely a “maga communist”. Idk why he said he wasn’t. He’s even doing everything they do. Taking a TH-cam channel and calling it some “institute”. So Maupin-esque.
he lies about Carlos here
He lies about Carlos' book here
@@jcoprario967 They also annoyed the shit outa me when they asserted Midwestern Marx guys of simping for Russia. It infuriates me how so many on the left are so either uninformed or misinformed about the historical context surrounded Russia and th current Ukrainian government leading up to and since Russia's invasion two and a half years ago. And whenever anybody actually discusses that conflict in a fair and balanced manor and willing to admit that regardless of how awful Putin and the Russian government may be, (and they're both pretty awful from a communists' perspective), but the vast majority of the reasons that Russia gave for invading are simply the truth. I mean obviously they're taking the facts that best support they're narrative, but the facts are the facts. There are plenty of leftists saying the same thing, from Aaron Mate, to Chris Hedges, to Max Blumenthal, to Danny Heiphong, the Due Dissodence guys, to those at RBN, along with plenty of experts who aren't radicals in the slightest - like Stephen Cohen, Jeffrey Sachs, and John Mearsheimer. And though i personally don't support what Russia did by invading, but i certainly understand why and their given justification is valid. Of course if one ever fuckin mentions this reality, far too many fellow leftists have a kneejerk response to join in on the neo-McCarthyist smearing of those telling the truth by labelling them as Putin-Apologists and shit.
And it's even more outrageous to label them being China-simps too, just because they talk positively about China and it's system. Listen, i have a ton of criticisms of both China and the guys at Midwestern Marx, but this shit-lib tankie-bashing bullshit just annoys the fuck outa me. Especially seeing as how 1Dime has put out a shit ton of great content over the years, especially when it comes to mmt. He does a great job explaining what it is, which is something i wish other fellow leftists would watch because sadly - most of them love bashing mmt. But when they do, they demonstrate - that they all almost to a tie - simply have no fuckin clue what mmt even is, let alone making decent arguments against it. And that's just one topic, he's done a great job on a lot of shit. Which is why this sorta shit is especially frustrating for me. Sorry for the rant
Claremont is west coast Straussian a la Harry V Jaffa in its origins. It has developed, but not identical to Dineen or Vermeule. There is a conservative Xian (Catholic and/or Protestant) aspect, and there is a libertarian aspect. Perhaps not a coherent ideological party line. In practice maybe “fighting” like Dineen and Vermeule, and shares similar concerns with First Things. But not identical.
That was kind of a weird-feeling cold open, maybe a little too long?
Ha! I had no
Idea varn came from the crusty punk milieu. I was in that scene to some extent at roughly same time with people in the PNW. I Wonder if we have any friends in common.
Non belonging is the only way for all.
45:30 - what do you consider to be “ultra left”?
Maoism and anarchism
@1DimeRadio Maoism? I thought Mao was more like into Fascism (this was based on what Aaron Bastani from Novara Media and Slavoj Zizek interview) but as you may know I one of those people who do not know much history about the left but identify as an Anarchist lol
As my Hong Kong friend says to me: "people think that China is communist"
I feel guilty that I love to learn about the sectarian splits
JReg jumpscare
Please don’t interrupt so much, wait until they finish their full thought.
Haking bae? Who did he call a pedo?
Hakim Bey
This is the kind of guy who you don't know if they're going to be a Marxist or a Conservative next week. They jump wildly from one thing to another. But he really knows a lot and you can certainly learn something from listening to him.
'MAGA Communism' doesn't try to appeal to the ideological propaganda machine against other countries BECAUSE IT ISN'T TAILIST. When will you learn.
Also "Early Bolshevism" had a more complicated position with regard to sexuality than its theoretical glass of water stance implies.
Wish I had more to chew on here but not paying just for the less than 1% chance of seeing a novel critique.
The accusation of tailism seems to be coming from the fact that we think that "educated" RadLibs are more reactionary than MAGA peasants, which, yes
Maga communism is just fascism. We’ve seen this move play out before. A world war was taught because of it. The flame of that “movement”needs to be stomped out before it can spread.
@@Placeholder-qh2kuwho is we? Maga communism is way more reactionary than these radlibs
MAGA Communism is to the Trump wing of the Republican Party what DSA is to the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
Just because MAGA Communists don't think they are Tailist doesn't change the fact they are.
cope.
Lol accidentially clicked this video, the guy on the right starts with substanceless opinion jibber jabber about what he considers left rightwing. Lol
The first 20 minutes is Varn telling his personal story because the host asked him about it.
Varn is a sage of socialist history & marxist theory. Probably check yourself and just hear him out before taking shots.
Peter Camejo was not in NAM.