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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Japan Version, Set 2.
Loop 2: 35:24
The very first game in the famous Raiden series that originated in 1990.
Just like Raiden II, this game loops forever, with the bullet speed getting increasingly faster every loop. You can see a glimpse of how crazy fast the bullets get in the 3rd loop.
This one didn't have the crazy shrapnel effect yet.
As always, the design philosophy behind Raiden is old Toaplan.
Meaning lots of small sniper tanks with limited firing angles that you can abuse and get screwed over by. Emphasis is on very fast aimed bullets rather than many bullets.
The game has two different versions, one with checkpoints and one without. I'm obviously not going to play the inferior version.
I choose the P2 ship because it makes the game easier (it thinks you died before, so you never get no-miss rank).
Boss HP is determined by the weapon you have going into it (red = lower, blue = higher). Switching to blue after it spawns makes it die significantly faster. This is only really useful on the stage 3 boss however.
Homing missiles are super strong in this game and have crazy homing. There is really no reason to ever use the nuclear missiles (which are also super weak). Same story goes for the blue laser really, apart from the one time you use it on the stage 3 boss.
Bomb items are pretty buggy. They can easily clip out of the screen if you scroll it in a certain way.
You can seal bullets in this game by going on top of enemies, but the seal range gets shorter and shorter the higher the rank is.
Items in this game are fixed until you die. I guess the items you release after death count towards the item order. Because there are less weapons in general, it's also easier to get items.
It's always guaranteed that you get a full power item on your first death, assuming you fully powered up your shot and missiles. You're still pretty crippled without full-power homing missiles mind you, but at least you have a fighting chance. Ideally you want to grab at least one missile item before picking up the full power item to fully power up both.
I'm a bit conflicted about Raiden I and Raiden II. Raiden II is definitely a step up in terms of level design, but they added a bunch of mechanics that are really unnecessary and dumb. Items in that game are completely random and you almost never get a full power item on death, making recovery almost impossible. It's like taking one step forward and two steps back.
This run was quite silly. I tried to pointblank the 1-8 final boss but got pointblanked myself. Because of this I had to recover from scratch starting the 2nd loop which was quite a thing to pull off.
Because of the death, the item order was also messed up so I had to improvise around the items. The end of the 2nd loop was also quite silly.
The drive-by popcorn in stage 7 are quite annoying but they are static, thankfully.
There is a bug in Mame where the stage 3 boat boss will leave behind an 'after-image' of itself, obscuring the screen until you reset the game. This is pretty much a run-ender because it obscures everything and doesn't go away ever. Luckily you can consistently avoid it by doing it like I do. Grab an item to lower its health, laser the first phase and only bomb the boss until after it cycles to its 2nd phase.
Many credit to saucy again for a lot of the strats.
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Anecdote: one night, I was on my way to beat the game with one plane on Stage 7, but the electricity went off. Technically never beaten the game without getting shot down once. Playing this game for the last 30 years.
Thank you SEIBU KAIHATUS .Hitoshi Hamada
Totally agree. Even on the easiest difficulty, a casual player is going to have to play a game perfectly. The bullet patterns are infamous in the fact that they fly so fast to the point where you don’t have time to react at all. The ship’s speed is extremely slow and bullet patterns are extremely tight, especially during boss battles. Boss 3 was extremely tough for me to beat. I have never gotten past stage 3 on the mobile iOS version of Raiden.
I love how after completing loop 1 the drummer decides to do a freeform solo
>"I'm obviously not going to play the inferior version." >Set 2
What do you mean, sir? I noticed there is quite a difference in timing and how the game reacts to inputs from the joystick. The music i s also different...Which is the best version, and why, please?
set 2 doesn't have checkpoints and it gives you some powerups after death unlike set 1 which is like 99% impossible to recover
I'm 45 and Raiden was the first shootem up I played (bought it for PC). Never did get too far in the game, but I played the shit out of it on a regular basis lol.
Looks like memorization is the way to go.
(Edit) I believe the purple gave you that laser shot. That was an awesome looking weapon when it was maxed out. Probably not the best weapon, but still cool as hell.
Mr Jaimers, good job! After countless and sleepless nights, I figured out that there is indeed a difference between the versions. It appears that set 1 and set 2 have different timing, music and even graphics, than the other versions, found for MAME. I remember being a sophisticated bullet dodger, and I always got killed on the other Raiden versions, and got furious. After years of playing, I realized that the problem is not me. I came across set 1 by chance, to try my new HRAP 3 SA, and what do you know - a bulled dodger again, without even trying hard, and even when blinking heavily! Would you comment on that, do you have any observations, experience, etc? Now I am desperately trying to find a working solution.
To guy in video playing ? Awesome play. But would game have went further if you didn't lose life at your high score ? It would have continued or a kill screen ?
Been playing this a bit in the last few weeks, only allowing myself 1 credit. Very poor progress so far, the tanks are the biggest pain in the ass. Also, I hadn't realized that you can fly over the things that are on the ground, such as said tanks, and even the Stage 1 boss. I've been avoiding them all the same as bullets. Also, I can tell that the game gets very different once you have updated the Red weapon a lot. Not sure if I will like it as much when it gets to that point.
Would like to try this and a lot of other games with arcade stick instead of pad, but the Mad Catz Tournament Edition stick I have doesn't work on my PC (I've read that it requires Intel chip sets due to the USB protocol).
This was the level of detail they had back in 1990.
i can safely say this version seems easier than the pc collection i have.
there is a distinct lack of helicopter's swarming the screen when you reach those four turret emplacements.
i'm intriqued by what he said about sealing bullets by going on top of enemies...
I love this game! Vintage!
Thanks Seibu Kaihatsu. Hitoshi Hamada
Thank you very much. Seibu Kaihatsu .Hiroshi Hamada
>Homing missiles are super strong in this game and have crazy homing. There is really no reason to ever use the nuclear missiles (which are also super weak).
I think it's probably closer to personal preference. I haven't been able to point blank a few bosses without nuclear missile and I can't take out some of the snipers in the early game with low power homing. So I always start off with nuclear. They're also a better missile for recovery on stage 6, since low power homing is way too slow imo to take out those popcorns.
Tbf, I do usually switch to homing at the beginning of stage 3 and if I no-miss loop 1, I would stay on homing except for the last stage to more easily take out the bigger enemies.
I loved this game as a teenager I clocked it couple times vintage classic 👌
Seibu Kaihatsu. HItoshi Hamada
This is the real sequel to Tiger Heli. It took many elements from it.
Also quite similar to Twin Cobra.
Even as a kid i couldn't get past stage3 😂 the game was brutal
Hey, we're almost at 10k subs.
1990 SEIBU KAIHATSU INC
Licensed to Fabtek. I believe they also licensed to Metrotrainment. They made an arcade with mirrored screen (super cool for that era) made it look like you were playing on a flat 3d screen.
34:24 You got cvcked, Jaimers...
The zako in this game are insane.
Can you dodge the final attack from the final boss? It feels too insane to dodge compared to that of Raiden II.
Seibu Kaihatsu..thank you thank you Hitoshi Hamada
it's good to see even learned professional players can't complete it without losing a life or two.
What are your thoughts on playing games like these without autofire? Just curious.
When i still child, game play in dingdong, until finish, and start Begin again. Just it
I've tried to replicate the way you beat bosses at stage 1 with no success. How can you make them lose energy that fast? Is your set "raidena" ? What settings are your game on?
I think he's using autofire? Sounds like it when he goes to the top of the screen here:
th-cam.com/video/6JOjIBOB8JM/w-d-xo.html
(His bullets can be re-fired once they've gone off the top of the screen, and the repeat rate sounds unnaturally high at that point)
Dude is obviously using a rapid fire button; must be nice!!!
On what platform is this game i played in my teens but cant find it now.
i wander why the 2nd controller ??
Don’t get me wrong, Raiden is a difficult game. But autofire makes it way more easier than with my original PCB where one just cannot fire as fast….
Awesome
Crowd Desert,Guardian And Crystal Core Is Hardest Boss Ever
Man my reaction times are never god enough i just can never get past the 2nd boss🤷
1991 Micronet
1992 Electro Brain
Anyone know how to play Raiden II?
1990
1990.6.2.
Why do you say it’s all clear if it’s NOT all clear?
He didn't say it's an all clear, he said it's a 2-all clear, meaning he cleared the first 2 loops.
@@SleepyDirty how many loops there are here?
Everyone, read the description of the video, he told this already
is this with autofire?
Just copy/pasting my reply to someone above:
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I think he's using autofire? Sounds like it when he goes to the top of the screen here:
th-cam.com/video/6JOjIBOB8JM/w-d-xo.html
(His bullets can be re-fired once they've gone off the top of the screen, and the repeat rate sounds unnaturally high at that point)
I'm pretty sure it just shoots like that automatically if you hold down the fire button
@@snarfnpoots7678 There is various evidence of autofire throughout the video. For instance, when they stop firing, and then resume firing again; their ship fires out a 'volley' of the 4 rows of bullets they are allowed on screen at once tightly packed together, pretty much impossible with manual button pressing, happens every time with an autofire function - here's a screengrab to show:
imgur.com/B28VGUh
Taken from th-cam.com/video/6JOjIBOB8JM/w-d-xo.html
@@johnparker007 dude this is how the vulcan works in literally every raiden game
@@snarfnpoots7678 I've just double-checked and actually recorded a brief video of me holding down the fire button with the red weapon:
th-cam.com/video/hLk_bHURw_s/w-d-xo.html
This is what happens when you keep the fire button held down with the red weapon in Raiden, on both Set 1 and Set 2. It fires about once every 2/3rd of a second. The guy was using autofire, there is no doubt.
(perhaps it is different on some home console ports, and you are remembering that over the coin op version)
Using TAS kind of defeats the whole challenge tbh
What's Tas?
This looks suspiciously like a TAS.
This guy is just cracked
@@nolancampbell4451 no it's a TAS, pretty obvious
I thumbs down you were supposed to milk the cows
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😂😂😂😂😂all clear what for 😂😂😂😂😂