Dan, I love my 1968 Supraphonic even more now. Your discussion of the rims and how the earlier models were thinner and the angle of the last flange where rim shots happen is flatter than the newer models, persuaded me to not look for a different rim to make rim shots easier, but to work harder on my traditional grip. Watching you play was a lesson in itself on how to play relaxed, natural and string meaningful musical phrases together. Many thanks! Steve, Deltona, FL
The muffle shape was not to provide two different amounts of muffle. It is shaped that way to make "the turn" on it's way into position. I've got the early '64 with the red pad. Had to put on a P-86. It's been silver powder coated and looks and sounds awesome now! Great vid...
you're the only other drummer I've ever heard of, besides me, who loves the P-85. I absolutely love them. always have. drummers seem to hate them, but not me. I'm sold, brother, you just gained a new subscriber
About the hoops - Ludwig changed from Chrome on Brass hoops to Chrome on Steel hoops somewhere around 65, i think.. so the earlier Supras had COB hoops, during the transition era some of the Supras might have had one Chrome on Steel and one Chrome on Brass, and once they ran out of the COB hoops all Supras were fitted with Chrome on Steel hoops from there on. Some people say there is a difference to the sound. I have a early 65 Supra with the COB hoops - a magnet wont stick to the hoops. It also has only minimal pitting. Some Supras from that era are known to have the chrome stick very well on the shell. Might have had something to do with Ludwig perhaps using different contractors for the job? Anyway, nice vid and great playing.
Great video Dan!! I just restored my ‘66 Supraphonic back to completely original EVERYTHING!! It does have the pitting/flaking of the chrome off the aluminium (what can you do...huh?) but it sounds awesome!!! Also........great playing by the way!!! From the land down under....... Cheers Mate
Great video! Thought you had a tale to tell, and a tail as well at one point! I'm waiting for a early 400 to arrive in the post, cannot wait! Nice playing at the end, Very nice!
Maybe people don't like the P-85 because they have a tendency to bind if they get dirty or bent? Cleaned and lubed though they work great in my experience.
I just scored a pre serial at a pawn shop. Some pitting as well. Are these rims brass? They arent magnetic and i wouldn't think they'd be aluminum? Super video! Thanks for the knowledge
At the time of this posting, there are 69 subscribers to this fantastic new channel. Nice.
Really interesting and informative. Thanks Dan! Agree with you on how cool the baseball bat looks 😎
Not only are you a well spoken thinker… but you make a kit talk. Thank you for the video.
Dan, I love my 1968 Supraphonic even more now.
Your discussion of the rims and how the earlier models were thinner and the angle of the last flange where rim shots happen is flatter than the newer models, persuaded me to not look for a different rim to make rim shots easier, but to work harder on my traditional grip.
Watching you play was a lesson in itself on how to play relaxed, natural and string meaningful musical phrases together.
Many thanks!
Steve, Deltona, FL
Can’t wait for this series to return
So smooth playing I haven’t hear in a decade. Thumps-up
enjoyed everything great playing nice sound on all drums, cool cat.
You totally nailed it! Great channel!
Thank you!
The muffle shape was not to provide two different amounts of muffle. It is shaped that way to make "the turn" on it's way into position. I've got the early '64 with the red pad. Had to put on a P-86. It's been silver powder coated and looks and sounds awesome now! Great vid...
you're the only other drummer I've ever heard of, besides me, who loves the P-85. I absolutely love them. always have. drummers seem to hate them, but not me. I'm sold, brother, you just gained a new subscriber
haha the end tho !! sound awesome too Dan !
Best snare. Nice playing! 🔥🥁🎶💯
That solo was tight, Sir It's a pleasure hearing it.
Awesome job!!
Great playing!
It would make a great litter box. Happy with my Tama 14x6.5 & 13x3.5 snares.
About the hoops - Ludwig changed from Chrome on Brass hoops to Chrome on Steel hoops somewhere around 65, i think.. so the earlier Supras had COB hoops, during the transition era some of the Supras might have had one Chrome on Steel and one Chrome on Brass, and once they ran out of the COB hoops all Supras were fitted with Chrome on Steel hoops from there on.
Some people say there is a difference to the sound.
I have a early 65 Supra with the COB hoops - a magnet wont stick to the hoops. It also has only minimal pitting. Some Supras from that era are known to have the chrome stick very well on the shell. Might have had something to do with Ludwig perhaps using different contractors for the job?
Anyway, nice vid and great playing.
thanks Dan ,great info,your drumming is smooth as silk.
Great video Dan!! I just restored my ‘66 Supraphonic back to completely original EVERYTHING!! It does have the pitting/flaking of the chrome off the aluminium (what can you do...huh?) but it sounds awesome!!! Also........great playing by the way!!! From the land down under.......
Cheers Mate
Thank you for all of the helpful info!
best. intro. ever.
Michael Shannon sure knows his Supras
Great video! Thought you had a tale to tell, and a tail as well at one point!
I'm waiting for a early 400 to arrive in the post, cannot wait!
Nice playing at the end, Very nice!
Did your snare arrive?
@@alanduncan1980 it did, it's a bit rough looking through the pitting of the chrome, sound's really really good though :)
Maybe people don't like the P-85 because they have a tendency to bind if they get dirty or bent? Cleaned and lubed though they work great in my experience.
Awesome!!!
I just scored a pre serial at a pawn shop. Some pitting as well. Are these rims brass? They arent magnetic and i wouldn't think they'd be aluminum?
Super video! Thanks for the knowledge
Great drumming
Amazing review...
So good
Thank you!
Mine didn't pit, the inside got a little dusty. 1967 5/14" Supraphonic 40 Chrome plated.
Damn Dan,
I wanted to hear what your cat had to say!
Heh
How would you compare this, to the Slingerland Artist Model snare..14 x 5.5”.
Both very popular over the years...
Dan, Can you identify the batter and resonant head make and model? Any tuning tips?
I can never tune this drum right. Always some weird overtones etc :(
Bad santa.
It looks like you have a tail