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Thank you for doing what you do. I’ve only known I have ADHD until last year. I appreciate your videos as they do help me understand myself a bit more alongside my therapy sessions as I go about what I like to say is my true self discovery. These also help me understand more of the community I may not have learned more about otherwise. Your work is so greatly appreciated. 🫶🏻
I can easily imagine how a lot of these people on Fake Disorder Cringe might have lived with their conditions, and only knew shame and self hatred. Only to see red, when noticing others expressing themselves in a seemingly lighthearted ( or at the very least non-morose ) fashion, in regards to their condition. And thus decided to lash out in this manner.
The issue here is that kids/teens really WANT to have autism or self diagnose themselves with it. People really fake this stuff. And you can clearly see if they’re faking. So overdramatic like crazy stimming or something. This is basically calling out fakers.
The one user suggesting other cringe subreddits to the new user, but telling them they should be careful because the other subs are not as "lenient" should have been the whole subs first clue...
One of the reasons that an autistic person like me might not get a diagnosis is because of discrimination. Both my psychologist & psychiatrist say I am almost certainly autistic, but we decided that it would not be in my best interests to pursue an official diagnosis because my abusive ex-husband would almost certainly use it against me in child custody matters... Sometimes not getting a diagnosis is protective... It doesn't make me any less autistic though.
As an AuDHD lady who has dealt with a contentious custody situation for over 15 YEARS now, yes, absolutely, putting yourself in a vulnerable position is a BAD idea! I just got diagnosed, but have not thrown it around out in the world just yet, though I feel I’m safe from any custody challenge at this point. There will come a day when it may be safer for you to get a diagnosis; I got mine to try to ensure my daughter (who is also AuDHD) and myself stay housed, fed, and provided with medical care long-term. Or, you may never choose to pursue formal diagnosis, and that is also fine! Just wanted to reinforce that your instincts here are GOOD! 👍
@@rainbowsorceress2082Infantilization and stuff of people with disabilities is such a virus. Ableism like that towards people with disabilities often comes from toxic communities like r/fakedisordercringe. If something spreads through social media, it can impact the way people see certain disorders. It's awful.
Also, many countries don't accept immigrants who are diagnosed autistic! So if you plan to move to a different country, or if you worry you may have to escape your home country, having a diagnosis can prevent you from being able to leave your home country. Along with many other forms of discrimination against autistic people. You can be denied jobs, proper medical care (lots of US doctors will ignore autistic patients' health complaints), loss of custody of their children as you've already mentioned, denied gender affirming care, and on the more extreme end some people have been institutionalized or forced into conservatorship (which strips so many rights to autonomy) solely for being autistic. Just to name a few, I am quite possibly forgetting some things. If I could afford a diagnosis, I would still probably not seek one out as I am trans and the greater risk of being mistreated by doctors is just dangerous for me. I already have had to deal with enough of that without the diagnosis.
I was posted to fake disorder cringe and I'm a minor. It's so disgusting they will post everyone including literal children and people with disorders that being fakeclaimed can really affect their mental health.
Hey friend, I just want you to know that I am sorry this happened and I do believe you. Seeing so many people claim others are “faking” their disorder with no evidence is so gross. You do not owe people your medical history or diagnostic status, especially assholes on the internet that will use the diagnosis(or lack thereof) against you. I work in a psychiatry clinic and I truly believe the first step to getting help is realizing something is off. You cannot get an autism diagnosis as an adult without realizing something is sort of “off” about you.. that being said, self diagnosis is the first step to getting help and making life more manageable. I would’ve never gotten an ADHD diagnosis at 19 if I didn’t realize for myself that I probably had adhd. It has been an incredibly frustrating experience as a neurodivergent woman in their early 20s navigating the workforce in nursing. My coworkers will often get annoyed with me for asking clarifying questions, being “too much”, or getting overwhelmed. But those same coworkers will turn around and say shit like “oh my gosh I swear I have ADHD” because they can’t remember ONE thing. Like, bruh.
I'm so sorry it happened to you too. I was posted on there too, and I am literally diagnosed as AuDHD. Made me delete my videos and give up posting vlogs.
This subreddit is so astounding to me because it's a lose-lose situation. If you fit very easy to see, or easy to find out stereotypes (dyed hair, being queer, very obvious stimming), you're just trying to be quirky and you're faking it, but if you look more "normal," or if you're afab (because lets be honest this subreddit is incredibly misogynistic) and maybe are good at masking, you're considered not autistic enough, which is crazy Also unrelated but can I just say THE OUTFIT. The earrings and that collar are super spooky and cool!! Looks super awesome!! :D
Autism doesn’t have a certain look to it. I’d definitely fall under the ‘normal’ looking person who couldn’t possibly be autistic in the eyes of some. It’s got everything to do with the brain. So there’s nothing external people can use to deduce someone’s autism.
@@LiterallyInklingGirl exactly like what do they think autism is?? Like it feels like the moment they see someone autistic they're like "how can I find some crazy excuse of a reason for why this person is faking it for attention"
@@nose-rice It’s so ironic how most of us are the exact opposite: We hide who we are. And once we get the courage to put off the mask and embrace who we are, people will think we’re attention seeking.
And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those claim to be autistic to get a pass at bullying autistic people, but I have never seen them gatekeep those claims =p
@@Laezar1 Being autistic should never be used an excuse to bully someone. And anyone who believes that it can be used as an excuse needs a reality check.
@@riakun I mean they don't use it directly as an excuse but more as an argument of authority like "I'm autistic and I can tell they're faking" that kind of stuff. And it's just telling that there's never any skepticism for those claims.
@@Laezar1 well, of course, because those autistic people agree with the subreddit and are thus the only "true" cases of autism online 🙄 Seriously though it's so goofy and I hate the double standard the subreddit has.
@@Laezar1It's like those transvestigators. And eventually, they cannibalize each other. Also, LGBT people on there are like, "as a transgender, all of these other transgender people are definitely faking it."
I'm a low masking generally uncanny looking upper middle class white guy who spends all day on some sort of computer and goes everywhere with his mom. And I was still once told that I was faking it, like do you have to be completely nonverbal to avoid that allegation alltogether?
No. I’m not nonverbal but I am non speaking a lot of the time, any time I have big emotions I can’t speak with my vocal chords. And sometimes it just happens for days or weeks at a time for unknown reasons. And pretty much my whole life I’ve been accused of faking autism, a few times before I even knew what autism was. I have known a few peers as well who are completely nonverbal also be lobbed with similar accusations. Thsi is very anecdotal but at least in my experience, no manner of more physical traits bars you from that. People actually think we’re out here using AAC devices or TTS apps just to make their lives harder like some kind of trickster spirit
there's no way to avoid it. people just are used to bullying "weirdos" without being challenged. So they'll make whatever excuse they can to keep bullying. But there are lots of NTs who don't bully, so don't loose all hope.
I’ve noticed that if you express autistic joy at all, people on the subreddit with say “your not autistic because autism causes lots of problem!” So you guess you just have to be miserable all the time?
@@LiterallyInklingGirl yeah, and it sucks. autism can cause a lot of problems, true, i experience some myself such as meltdowns. but do i hate being autistic? am i incapable of experiencing joy because of my autism? hell no. i do like being autistic because for as much as it causes me problems i also feel as though i have such a strong grasp on myself and who i am because of my tendency to get lost in my head, i love talking to other autistic people who i'm able to relate to on a very personal level and talk to them for hours upon hours, and i love fandom spaces because it feels like such a great place for me and other neurodivergent people to freely express our interests without as much fear of judgement or ostricization. not to mention, even for the negative parts of my autism, its not like im unable to accomodate myself either. i cant tie shoes, so i get shoes that don't have to be tied. i don't like loud noises, so i either wear headphones or carry earplugs with me when i go outside. etc etc. autism is a disability but its also a simple difference and being autistic doesn't automatically mean that you have to be doomed to a life of misery.
Oh my god, yes. I watched one out of curiosity and none of the people depicted in the video were being harmful/bad. And a lot of it is just body shaming?? Cringe culture is so dumb.
Cringe culture is legit just bullying but with a more acceptable name, hence why it got so normalized. I mean, bullying and harassing behavior were already very normalized but the term cringe culture being applied to bulling has only made it worse. That's my theory anyways
@@ww3196The worst part is these people will never feel any respinsibility if they cause someone to end their own lives or self harm. They'll just claim it's not their fault and blame the person who hurt or k-ed themselves, as if they know how human psychology works better than an actual psychologist. Yes, self harm and "self end" have been used as manipulation tactics before by abusers and manipulative people, and still are used by manipulative people and abusers to this day, but when you immediately assume that the person you were basically bullying or crapping on on a subreddit made for that only self ended or self harmed as another form of attention seeking or manipulation, then that may be a problem with you and not them. Not everyone who becomes a victim of cringe culture who self harms or self ends is doing it purely as a manipulation tactic.
Agreed, it’s like how 2 people would fake being trans for internet fame and now people think that some actual trans people aren’t actually trans cause of something they do
IKR, the only people that should be doing that are medical professionals and even then, only if necessary for treatment and with appropriate care to properly diagnose the thing that's leading to the wrong self-diagnosis. I'm deeply skeptical that fake self-diagnoses are a common enough thing to worry much about. Especially not when compared with bad media depictions.
That's so cute you think reddit cares about bullying 😭😭😭 this stuff is nice for reddit. Reddit is 4chan for people who aren't AS mean and unempathtic. That place is mean and scary. I don't really use it anymore but when I did, I only used the community for my country, and the ones for autistic women specifically. Even the ADHD women's subreddit I left cause I got harassed. It's madness.
Bullies can always spot autistic people to harass, so by bullying people who they think are faking being autistic, they are proving that those people are genuinely autistic 😁
I wish I was faking AuDHD instead of eating the chocolate cake I made at 1 AM because my homework was giving me anxiety, so I was cleaning the kitchen up to escape from it and then I found a bag of used cocoa powder and thought "hey I should use this up" and the ADHD took over my body and now the kitchen is even messier that it was at the start but the chocolate thing is yummy.
12:07 it is funny how if the person does not “look autistic” they can’t be autistic, but if they do “look stereotypically autistic”, they also can’t be autistic (like the first person in this video) 🙄
@@THERMALSCOPES13 because a literal symptom of autism is not fitting in the norm. We’re considered strange for nt’s, of course we’d be considered weird looking if we’re bad at masking (like I am)
also many autistic people feel safe in subcultures, and I can say this as an autistic goth, because they’re often ostracised too so of course we’d fit in with the weird groups. It’s pretty easy to figure out if you know anything about autism
@@THERMALSCOPES13everyone looks different from one another (for the most part), I don’t know what you mean. Yes, some people don’t look however you think they should… doesn’t mean they’re autistic or not, want an odd question.
25:24 The crux is that people who use r/FDC have this weird notion that every autistic person has horrible struggles and that autism only causes negatives in life. It is a SPECTRUM disorder, people will experience it in vastly different ways. I don’t understand why autistic joy is frowned upon, why do you want me to be miserable??
Autistic people are people with lives. People with lives tend to expérience à mix of positive and négative émotions. Like how can they think that one factor in someone's life automatically makes them just misérable?? ??? Most people are happy at least once in a while
@@LiterallyInklingGirl I was told I couldn't be autistic because im married and before I was married I lived on my own...from a doctor with an autistic child she saw as the blueprint for diagnosing
Like does the fact i almost unalived myself as a teen validate my autism, or does it invalidate it because I overcame it? Do i have to die to prove I'm autistic? It's ridiculous.
i think the reason why people on the subreddit get so angry over autistic /and or adhders talk about harmless traits is because they relate to them themselves. neurotypicals are terrified of being seen as neurodivergent that they have to quickly say that "oh, but i do x, it doesn't mean i'm y". they always take it personally, making it about themselves. the subreddit is just internalized ableism disguised as genuine worry for autistic people.
true. There seems to be a lot of internalized shame in that subreddit! And it's sad, I don't think anyone should have to feel shame for things that aren't harmful or wrong.
It reminds me of a lot of autistic people I see in both that subreddit and r/AmITheAsshole. They seem to have a lot of internalised ableism and desperately want to please neurotypicals by convincing them that they're "not one of those neurodivergents".
From what I've seen of the subreddit, it's more so autistic people who know they're autistic, but really struggle with it and can't stand seeing other autistic people living their lives happily and authentically, with a side of also wanting an easy target to blame for their struggles. IIRC there's actually a rule on the subreddit that you can't bring up your own diagnosis because so many people were doing that. I've seen a lot of people on there who get very very angry about autistic people finding any sort of joy in the way they are because "if they were actually autistic they'd know it's horrible and awful and there's nothing good about it!" I think a lot of the hate comes from a place of genuine pain (and yes, definitely also internalised ableism). I've seen a similar sort of pattern in transmedicalist communities (which have a *huge* user overlap with the fakedisordercringe subreddit) - it's just a whole lot of very angry people flying into a rage over teenagers enjoying exploring their gender identity and coming up with quirky neopronouns, because they can't imagine a way of being trans that isn't just endless suffering. They claim that if those people were really trans, they'd be miserable 24/7 and wouldn't be able to celebrate their identity and have fun with it. It's a whole lot of projection. And then there's also the attitude of "if these fakers just went away then we'd be treated better! They're the reason for all our problems!" - which is obviously just not true in the slightest, but I can see how it's a comforting thought, in a way. When you're struggling, it's easier to blame it on a single cause, because then it feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel, like if this one thing would change then everything would be okay again. It's very sad really once you start thinking about the mentality of those types of people and where it comes from. It's not an excuse for bullying of course, but I can empathise with that feeling of hopelessness and feeling completely disconnected and isolated from others who are more positive about their circumstances.
Me telling my mom I've been diagnosed with ASD She asking why I thought of autism in the first place Me explaining different traits and behaviours She telling me those are normal She getting an appointment with a psychiatrist specialized in ASD.
When I had my diagnosis I told my mum about all the different traits. All I got was, oh, I do that too or I have that too. And then she blurts out, that how she brought me up was more on the basis how she felt and would have liked and she never really thought I was different. I would disappear in my room after school and my mum went up in the attic whe she wanted peace. We are very alike.
The story of our family too (me mentioning how well I get along with all the moms of autistic kids at school because they're so straight forward like me, both my kids giving me pointed looks). I'm thinking this is probably very common.
Yep. My mother says, you're not autistic, you're just like your dad. Dad almost certainly has autism, as do his siblings. Holidays are interesting because we all info dump to each other about horses or psychology or fungi.
My mom just accuse me of "pretending" to the point that she told teachers the same thing when I was still in school. Just "faking it for sympathy/leniency/special treatment/be the center of attention/imitating someone" and to not believe my "act". She refused to get me evaluated by a professional and left me winging my way through life.
"what do you mean, thats perfectly normal" - says the obviously autistic mother who just has never been diagnosed if I had a penny for every time this happens I would have few hundred bucks for sure at this point
There are so many double standards in this reddit it's wild, like ok you think you can't be diagnosed in 10 minutes and yet you are literally telling someone they can't be autistic after knowing them (from online!) for not even 10 minutes. It's so wild and harmful.
Wait till they find out you can get diagnosed in basically 10 minutes I was diagnosed with ADHD in like under two minutes of MEETING the psych My parents and psychologist did a box checking thing, idk if my school did, and I was just asked a few questions so she could know me from me I joke she instantly clocked me once she saw me
Hahaha i completely agree with your comment but i also had to come here to agree with zuru. I finally got a therapist in May that specializes in treating ND adults, within the first five minutes she was like “are you interested in looking at the path for getting a formal autism diagnosis?” I was like ¿mission failed successfully?
I'm replying to both of you, and yes I know! My therapist saw me within 10 minutes of meeting them and said that I should look into an ND diagnosis. But these people are too silly to even register that being diagnosed can be as quick as that.
After like 20 years of not going to a doctor, my first visit to a primary care doctor had him ready to refer me to a psych for adhd evaluation in about 90 seconds. The only thing that slowed down the psych from diagnosing me was asking me if I'd ever heard of autism... And indeed, narcissists are well-known for their double-standards
It's only attention seeking if it's anything related to a disability. These people think they are in the right to assume every autistic person is faking from a 10 second clip of them. They don't realize how crazy that is, bullying disabled people on a Reddit forum because of your own perception of them faking is somehow not attention seeking in of itself.
A friend I actually know personally once got posted onto fake disorder cringe so I commented on the post to defend them and my comment got removed for “white-knighting”
We were banned for "white knighting" for literally defending myself (and it was easy to see cause we had the same username and profile pic on reddit as in the screenshots that were posted) That sub is a cesspool and one of the main reasons we stopped using reddit
Ah yes the return of the goofy hypocrite subreddit that still don’t realize the irony of freaking out about self diagnosis while simultaneously thinking they can decide who doesn’t have a diagnosis based off of literally nothing but vibes or whatever. Next they’ll start going after people posting gluten free recipes and deciding people are faking celiac disease because they had an unpopular opinion about tomatoes. Same level of stupid tbh.
It is fair to call out the misinformation related to dissociative disorders, though. There's a reason sdx is discouraged - Because many disorders have dissociation as a symptom and it's impossible to view in the self.
@@The_Bean If it were just about spreading accurate information about certain disorders and encouraging formal diagnosis, that'd be one thing. Instead, however, they've decided to waste time picking at videos of people whose appearances they don't like and un-diagnosing them for any old stupid shallow reason they can think of, often without having a clue whether they have a formal diagnosis or not. It's highly hypocritical, because they know full well they don't know enough to make those claims either. If they want to really combat misinformation and make accurate information known, they should act like it, enforce those rules of theirs, and leave their cringey high school bully drivel in the dust. I mean, why would anyone take a group seriously in the first place if their stated purpose is laughing at people?
@@The_Beanyou can’t diagnose someone or claim they’re not the diagnosis *they* say they are off of a video or a post they made. you don’t know this person, you haven’t lived with them and even if you have, you are not them and you cannot know if they’re faking or not. again, not everyone’s experiences will be the same and a lot of the people they post, like this video said (it goes for non-autistics posted on the subreddit too!) are actually diagnosed professionally. just because someone has a dissociative disorder doesn’t mean they have to be miserable 24/7 or act a certain way all the time. also, harassing vulnerable and mostly young people on the internet is never fair for ANY reason. it is very possible to view it in the self by the way:) just saying
@@imautisticnowwhatOh gosh! They are skeleton hands. Pretty unique rings. I've wanted to get my ears pierced for about a year or so now. Lol. Is this community mostly diagnosed autistics later in life? I got my diagnosis in early childhood. That's got to be a much different experience.
@@imautisticnowwhatIf you hate this subreddit, r/truscum is pretty bad too. They're medical gatekeepers like r/fakedisordercringe. They specialize in telling trans people they have to be dysphoric and want surgery to be trans. Both of these subreddits like to gatekeep trans people a lot, I've noticed. truscum is a term for transmedicalist. Basically, someone with the viewpoint that, you must have dysphoria (pain/bad feeling related to your gender/body/presentation) and want to get surgery. It's weird. Fakedisordercringe also has this thing where they believe that dysphoria is a very specific thing. And use a very exclusive definition, that, basically, others trans people. Like, cis people can feel dysphoric in their bodies too! Like, hair, height, etc.
@@imautisticnowwhatWait, so, I just realized, r/fakedisordercringe is a lot like those antique "freak shows". That make fun of people's appearances and conditions for spectable. Just horrible.
@@HelloHamburgerI personally got my diagnosis in my early teens, so I think it’s a big mix, but there are quite a few late diagnosed autistic people here
As a future social worker I see so many issues in these type of behaviours besides the bullying. 1. You cannot diagnose a person based on a one minute video! Doesn't matter if you're a trained professional or not. A diagnosis is formed based on many different medical exams (physical tests, interviews of the patiens and sometimes their parents etc.). Such a video is nowhere near enough for a correct diagnosis. 2. It is possible that some of these people fake a disorder. Faking a disorder for attention is obviously not okay and can cause serious issues for those who actually have the disorder that is faked in the video, mainly because of stigmas and misconceptions. That doesn't give anybody the right to bully said people! You can educate others why that is damaging and the possible consequences of said behaviour. 3. We also have to keep in mind that faking a disorder for attention means that there are serious issues in these peoples lives (e.g. lack of love and care from parents or supposed loved ones etc.). Faking a disorder for attention can be a symptom of a mental health condition as well (munchhausen syndrome).
While it may be possible that some people might be actually faking medical conditions, that doesn't mean that someone should accuse a person for "faking it". Fakeclaiming is damaging, no matter what. Come to think of it, isn't fakeclaiming basically slander?
Also even if they aren't Autistic, that doesn't necessarily mean they're faking. It's possible they have some other Condition like ADHD, and mistook their symptoms for Autistic symptoms when it's something else. That doesn't make them a Faker. It's completely understandable for someone who realizes that something is different with them to try and go search for an answer, and sometimes they make a mistake or their sources are unreliable so they wind up thinking that they have something they don't actually have. Most self-diagnosed Autistics don't have the training to fully evaluate their symptoms, and it's perfectly understandable that a few might've gotten it wrong. Those people don't deserve bullying either.
Exactly! These people on this sub and others who "expose" supposed fakers are literally just armchair psychologists. Also, if they think they're all doing this for attention, why are they giving these people what they want? Would 't reposting their video onto a subreddit and trying to make them infamous basically be giving them attention like they want? A person like that won't care if they recieve negative attention, because attention is all they want. If these people really think they're doing this just for attention, they should just ignore them and do something more productive with their lives.
Your last point is especially important and doesn't get the attention it deserves. I once was friends with a kid who faked disorders for attention. He was actually diagnosed with some other very serious medical conditions that caused him to behave this way (its been many years and he tried to keep it a secret, so i can't remember what it was). He was a very sick kid who needed help. Bullying and shaming would've only made him worse. I hold no ill will towards this guy, even though he almost exclusively communicated through lies. I hope he got the help he needed.
@@LilChuunosuke i also think that point 3 is really important. why would do some of the stuff they say is "just for attention" without Really needing some attention? "oh, they're just doing that for attention - you should ignore them" just doesn't sit well with me either
If for some reason the person really was proven to be faking neurodivergence, at least then they would be better investigators and may use it as a way to “identify people who are faking disorders”, but the cringe part makes it clear that even if they limited their scope to people they can prove are faking neurodivergence they would still mock them. Other comments point out that either way the person is not ok; either they have comorbidities, lack a stereotypical trait, or are lying which itself indicates another mental disorder or a need for attention or is a cry for help. So even if it wasn’t just an excuse for freely mocking mentally ill people and neurodivergent people, at its core it will lead to mockery.
@@iantaakalla8180 i mean 'cringe' is basically a code word for queer, autistic "weird" people. the whole 'their faking' shit is just to make that seem more "okay" to themselves, im pretty sure (not that it would actually change anything)
Anything in relation to cringe culture can not have, at its core, good faith. The entire goal of cringe culture is for envious and cynical people to bond over the sadistic destruction of any expression of self or authenticity. It's rotten to the core, and so are the ghouls that partake in it.
@@smartsmartie7142I’ve been in both ADHD and autistic circles in social media as an AuDHD lady. ADHD people are fun and funny. We talk about how we can’t use the bathroom correctly at the age of 30 or 40, or what it’s like when the Ritalin or Adderall kicks in, and we laugh and commiserate and it’s awesome. The shift to autistic social media is… tricky. So much fussing over words and colors and shapes and if people are “really” autistic and there was a whole sub-group on Twitter (now X, I’m off now that it’s X) dedicated to declaring people not persisting in publicly wearing masks in 2023 were, um, deliberately ending them, I think is the safe way to say it? Anyway, I guess it’s not shocking that autistic circles are much more judgy and not as good at partying as ADHD circles, but I definitely noticed the contrast! 😅
@@misspat7555 that's interesting. I think a lot often also just depends on more context, social media spaces can vary a lot. There's however a lot of trickiness with autism because of how stigmatised it still is too. People feel ashamed of autism way more and for example I've often heard people refer to themselves as high functioning as if they are trying to proof something. It's very difficult and I can very well understand language policing to not further spread hurtful messages. I think those are just some things that aren't that extreme with ADHD
It's okay to bully a disabled person if it's mild enough that you accuse them of faking. Classic narcissistic strategy, hiding behind a false facade the problem is you can't prove that they know what they are doing but the same goes for the disabled people that they are accusing of faking so they are still in the wrong no matter what unless there is solid evidence of them faking
Love the one diagnosed at 8 having zero awareness of how difficult life is for people who fell through the cracks and either got a late life diagnosis or live places assessments are out of reach due to cost and delays. They credit their parents with helping them turn out "normal." How would they have turned out with no support?
As someone diagnosed at 3 in daycare, and who got the needed treatment, I think it's of upmost importance for people like me to appreciate their privilege before speaking. I was very fortunate to have been able to go to a special Ed school. I would be almost certainly much, much worse off without all the support I received.
I was a full blown addict by 25 because the highs made socializing less overwhelming. So that’s how no support turned out for me. It’s possible I would’ve taken the same path either way, but that I’ll never know.
As someone who was diagnosed at 28 and first attempted to unalive myself at 14, and still doesn’t have a job. Mhm yeah, it’s rough to be missed. Almost a third of a lifetime of feeling like a failure, and I count myself lucky to have found out at 28, I can start to accept myself and unlearn the negative cycles my brain takes because of trauma. I can’t imagine how rough it must have been for those who are diagnosed at like 40 or above.
I wish I had the support to grow up into a "normal" functioning adult, but instead I got all my symptoms dismissed as laziness and stubbornness. Because I didn't know why I was struggling so much and I didn't have the words to describe my experience, I just assumed they were right about me. I internalized every negative label that was given to me to the point that I became suicidal in my teens.
@@Raven74408 I really identify with what you said and had similar experiences and outcome. I'm sorry you grew up feeling that way, too, and hope that you've been able to deprogram some of those early devastating messages.
the first vid is why i. wow. my jaw dropped like its such an innocent video. a cute video, they look cute . im nonbinary and i kind of look like that. i kind of want to look like that. th idea of someone just looking at me and just. hating me. for seemingly no reason is terrifying 😭 how is calling someone stupid for doing a cute kind of video eveyone else does not harrassment. this subreddit is so scary, yea. happy halloween!!!! LMFAO
i agree 😭😭 they look like such a sweetheart! Don’t let it get to you❤❤ there will be plenty of people who look at you and think you look cool and nice. the people who think otherwise aren’t worth the energy
Its sucks to be hated for no reason. Just remember that it pales in comparison to how many people would either be neutral or even like you! It's a loud minority and I know autistic people can have a hard time filtering out loud sounds but this is one of those times we really gotta try.
One of my main issues with this subreddit is that sometimes little kids (AKA young me unfortunately) read into them and assumed that they were correct, so as an undiagnosed little child who didn’t know any better, I assumed I wasn’t neurodivergent, just weird, which made me start to hate myself and want to no longer be alive. Edit: I still am depressed to this day because of all the hate I get from others and myself
I think that the saddest thing about the whole subreddit is the autistic people actually supporting and fully believing it. I think we can all understand the want to have neurotypical people's approval, but it's clear that invalidating one's own community isn't the way :[
same with the trans/lgbt people who fall into this garbage 💀💀💀 really cool to prey on the insecurities of marginalized populations in order to turn them on themselves 🤩🤩🤩
I think it's mostly a figure of expression from older generations. People who are millennials or older have the tendency to call those younger than them kids. Especially those in their 20's, I do the same thing because I grew up around the vernacular. I don't think there's anything wrong with it unless people are being ageist about it (which these people can be).
@@transjesterr I do it for anyone who looks under 25 😅 (I’m 44) It’s never intended in a disparaging or infantilising way, though. It’s more indulgent than nasty.
i'm a millennial and i'm still called a kid by older generations. i don't take it to heart though because i call people older (and younger!) than me kids as well lmao. it's just part of my vernacular if they're *treating* me like they would a child that's a different story. (i don't like how most adults treat children to begin with but that's a whole different can of worms.) but the vernacular doesn't bother me
There’s definitely a problem with the infantilisation of autistic people. Literally so many of the people targeted by this subreddit are fully grown adults, yet they’re treated like they’re still middle-schoolers smh
one of my friends was posted on this subreddit and when we asked for the post to be removed they refused and told us to "not be so sensitive." Said friend was actually diagnosed as well. They sadly ended up deleting their accounts and just going private. People really need some hobbies.
Bruh… that’s awful, I guess it comes as no surprise that the mods are bullies too, I’m so sorry for your friend and hope they’re doing better without those awful people’s attention. It’s sad, but understandable to choose to pull out of social media and it’s good when people do so when they need to
wdtm you can't be non binary and afab 😭. afab is the sex not your gender identity. as people who are allegedly a part of the lgbt community they sure have super WRONG understanding of these terms.
a lot of people think trans people, and ESPECIALLY nonbinary people, shouldn't be included in the community because it's not a sexuality. which is ridiculous. we're all queer i'm of the opinion that a/dfab should not be used by trans people because those are intersex terms. we are not assigned our sex, we are our sex. we are also our gender. i refer to myself as natal female. it only matters to doctors anyway. they need to know what to expect, and what is Different On Purpose. to anyone else i'm just a man
@@narrowwingI know a system with several factive alters of dsmp members. I've seen them melt down and struggle and they're absolutely not a faker. (Not that suffering = legitimacy) Really frustrating that people automatically assume a system is fake based on the identity of some alters being "cringe" to them. Systems aren't delusional, they know what they are, kinda annoying that people who don't understand feel the need to try to debunk them or whatever. /notmad
@@llynxfyremusic I don't think it's "cringe" alters that are a sign of faking. People can have "cringe" habits relating to a nerodivergence/mental illness they have because that's just how one has adapted or learned to cope. It's the people in their mid 20s (past the time where your brain kinda just solidifies habits and personality traits, not impossible, just a hell of a lot more difficult for people to change past that point) who suddenly have a whole new systems worth of alters, or people who trade their alters. There's also a mental illness that you literally just mimic mental illnesses to the point where you believe you have it, and I guess basically do have it in some cases because of just how much you've convinced yourself. I don't feel the need to expose, because it could be a different issue that's resulted in faking, but there's signs that makes me wary of a person. I've delt with too many scummy people who fake stuff just to make you feel bad for leaving them so that you stay in that unhealthy/abusive relationship.
I thought it would feature people like ticks and roses who were proven without a doubt to be faking. Instead it's just baseless speculation and mocking people with disabilities who they think are weird.
"Autistic people struggle with transitions" Thats weird because I was friends with this autistic boy back in school and I think she's doing really well!
Thank you for making these videos about fake disorder cringe, I often hear some of these things in my day to day life, and hearing someone easily and clearly tear apart their claims makes me feel so much better and more confident. (This is especially because I am currently self-diagnosed, and they hate that.)
15:24 I saw something a while ago, mentioning that people with ADHD and/or autism who have a tendency to stay up late into the night would have been incredibly useful for protecting their peers during the night a long time ago. It might not be true, but I still think it’s cool. Sadly, the world is centered around working only during the day, which, if I’m being honest, feels a little unnatural for me. Bright lights, loud sounds, people everywhere… it’s overwhelming. Maybe one day we can all have our own schedules, not the one society wants us to have.
Ugh *that* subreddit. It's the main reason I refuse to share diagnoses online anymore, and I refuse to get close to anyone online either. Hell, I even left Discord for the most part because I've seen friends of mine (who have been diagnosed) be accused of faking all kinds of disorders. That sub is made for gatekeeping and bullying people for the silliest reasons. I've never ended up there, and I'm glad; I've seen some hardcore harassment happen because people ended up on that sub and the sheeple ate it up. That subreddit both horrifies and offends me.
Sigh. This is why I feel so frustrated when people say they're helping but in fact hurting. The worst thing in life is not meeting a bad person but a hypocrite pretending to be a good. Hypocrites indeed.
I will never understand how a random person thinks their own opinion is right and valid over decades of research by psychologists doctors psychiatrists.
Just so you know, if you present someone with proper arguments and proof against their claims and they immediately resort to personal insults, that my friend is a tell-tale sign that they feel threatened because they are not competent enough to provide you with proof and facts themselves because they know deep down that they do not, in fact, have any proper arguments or proof.
They're merciless towards plural people too. Ive got a horrible feeling some of my Reddit posts have ended up on this subreddit. But I dont look at them because I value my sanity.
@@facthunt2facthunt245pretty sure in this context it's people with Dissociative Identity Disorder/ DID, which used to be called Multiple Personality Disorder.
So here's my question. They are hating on people who may be actually diagnosed and are talking about their experiences and are being called fakers. Do they believe that anyone who speaks about their experiences are faking for attention, and therefore are overshadowing the """"real people who struggle""""" or do they not believe that autism exists and that no one actually ever has autism? Why is it the fact of trying to relate to similar experiences the thing that makes it "fake" disorder? Can anyone talk about any invisible disability or are they presumed faking until proven real? Does any disability exist? Can anyone talk about anything ever without being shamed for seeking attention? Can humans recieve attention without it being a bad thing? Is being a human seeking connection toxic????? (/s on this part)
The answer is that these people on the subreddit actually want attention and an “in-group” and they’re jealous that autistic people seemingly have one without “much effort” (because look at how bad we look, the idea of acting unappealingly and getting an in-group as a result, that is “easy to fool into accepting you” is preposterous and worthy of shame). So, they create an in-group based around that bitterness, spite and jealousy. It’s like bullying the popular kid, but easier because we’re so unconventional and they don’t have to worry about offending anyone who’s actually ‘cool’. TLDR, they accuse people of wanting attention because *they* want the attention.
@@randomperson22789 Yep. They believe that little male children no older than 7 are the only demographic that can have autism and that said autistic people should no be able to verbally communicate or take care of themselves in any capacity and that all a "real autistic" person can do is groan and whine and groan and scream and suffer but they can't suffer too much, oh no, the real suffering is experienced by the caretakers of said autistic person and really anyone who finds themselves within a 100 mile radius of an autistic person because, well, autistic people are nothing but inconvienient and useless to society but don't worry, they don't wanna euthanize all autistics!! They just wanna fix everything that's wrong with them!!! :D Everything that makes them who they are that is. This is more or less what they think abt autistic people. And they are always just so BLATANTLY incorrect in almost anything they claim abt ASD or really any other mental disability/illness that it makes me wanna throw my damn devices against the wall for ever daring to show me their abominable so-called "opinions"!!!!
Also that misgendering had to have been deliberate. It takes up a quarter of the screen and nothing could justify being that reckless where you just see something cringy to you and immediately record it and upload it to Reddit before taking a single glance at the lower quarter of the screen. I don’t care how bad your ADHD is, that’s not something you miss. These are the kinds of people you can’t trust to even drive with that kind of attention span. ADHD doesn’t screw you over THAT hard, this is a behavioral issue at this point. Either that or like I said, it was deliberate. I can’t see any other possibility.
Also it isn't a binary between Autistic or Faker. It's possible that they have some other Condition, and just mistook it for Autism. It's perfectly understandable that when someone realizes they're not the same as everyone else is, for them to go searching for an answer. And most people don't have the adequate training to accurately categorize their symptoms, so it's perfectly possible that someone who doesn't have Autism, but is some other variety of Neurodivergent, to make a mistake and self-diagnose themselves as Autistic, when in reality there's something else going on. Doctors misdiagnose Patients occasionally, it's not that far fetched that some Patients accidentally misdiagnose themselves. They aren't acting in bad faith, they don't deserve to be bullied. They just made a mistake, and we should still support them.
@@lucyla9947 I'm going to try because I have a hard time expressing myself in english but here we go my second atempt to write this thing.Yes we can misdiagnose ourselfs our doctors can also miss things but it also very likely that strangers also have no clue what they are talking about and that is more harmful then anything.
@@MadeleineKarlsson-pe4jc The thing with these people (the people on the subreddit shown in the video) they don't know enough about someone to adequately diagnose them, nor do they know enough to assume Malintent (that is that they are a Faker).
5:30 there's something so funny about saying "i'm spitting facts" like ok thanks for letting us know that you agree with yourself very interesting lmao
Genuine thing someone (A THERAPIST WHO WORKS WITH AUTISTIC PEOPLE _SPECIFICALLY,_ ACTUALLY) said to me: Me: “I’m sorry, I didn’t quite understand what you meant. I’m autistic and I tend to take things very literally,” Therapist: “Just because you watched a couple TikToks, doesn’t mean you’re autistic. If you actually had a diagnosis, you wouldn’t look/act the way you do. A doctor is the only one who can tell who’s autistic,” Me: “…I was diagnosed by an autism specialist when I was three, back in 2005. I can show you the printed paper declaring my diagnosis,” Them: “Well, maybe you were misdiagnosed. Doctors aren’t always right about those things,” So are doctors the only ones who know when someone is autistic or are they not sure when someone actually is?? Pick one! Sorry Dr Price, I listened to what you had to say about “telling people you’re autistic makes people treat you better”. It’s not true.
my bf had a similarly insane experience with a psychiatrist when trying to get some adhd meds 💀💀💀 except she kept it really spicy with some fun transphobia mixed in there and a flippant diagnosis of manic depressive bipolar after get this -ONE FUCKING APPOINTMENT WHERE SHE BARELY LET HIM SPEAK. if it walks like a 🦆, talks like 🦆 💀💀💀💀
It's more common among ADHD, AuDHD, and autistic people to have a chronotype where your body wants to be awake from afternoon into the wee hours of the morning, instead of the culturally expected workday business hours. I was lucky to work a "second shift" job for many years (early afternoon until 10 or 11 at night). When the outside world is quieted down at night, my mind wakes up and focuses best. (In one of the scientific studies I read about this chronotype, the researchers scored participants on the dimension of "eveningness," which I found linguistically delightful.)
This! A lot of ADHDers and Autistic people have some kind of circadian-rythmn dysfunction, i for one have non-24-hour-sleep-wake-syndrome (which basically means my sleeping rythmn is 26 hours instead of 24 hours which makes it always cycle around the clock and i'm unable to change that) as well as delayed sleep wake phase disorder (which means that i naturally fall asleep much later that most people) These disorders are proportionally way more common in neurodivergent folks than in non-ND people. They can't be "healed" and one has to learn to somehow manage them themselves. What i do is i sleep directly after school until midnight, stay awake for two hours to do homework and some other stuff and then sleep again until school. I still struggle tho. I always struggled with this for my whole life. I don't have time left to do much more than trying to get the sleep i didn't get but i still end up tired, a couple other issues i have tend to play into that as well. TLDR: But yeah, basically what i wanted to say was: sleep disorders = disproportionally more common in ND people and not cureable
yuck ass subreddit i think fakers are significantly less of a problem than they think (and moreover i don't think bullying any fakers that do exist will get them to stop?)
That last point is key. I don't think I've ever come across a situation where bullying seemed like a reasonable answer. There are so many ways to solve problems, and bullying isn't one.
Isn’t it usually the case that a person proudly faking their disorder or neurodivergence wants to be discovered because they want attention or what attention brings? Talking about them en masse is what they want. So no, that subreddit is not legitimate in any sense, and actively worsens every possible case.
This is one of the things that makes me terrified of actually meeting other autistic people. My psychologist tells me I should give it a try due to loneliness and a wish to just unmask but yeah, utterly terrified. Edit: Your earrings are absolutely awesome 😮
The thing is, it might be easier to relate and communicate with other autistic people. Sometimes autistic people gravitate towards each other without realizing it. Before I got my official diagnosis, everyone in my friends group was autistic. That, in fact, was one of the signs I had to take into consideration.
I am going to try it, I want to see for myself if it’s easier. I wish and pray for it to be true because otherwise I will spend the rest of my life playing “pretend to be human” while actually being from another planet. Idk, I guess I’m rambling on TH-cam cause I feel desperate 😅 Thanks for the comments, both of you!
So scared of ending up on there.... Past couple years my physical and mental health have dive bombed...went from masking highly... To sounding like a child or forest gump when i talk out loud.... Had a " The Good Doctor" moment of my own at a dr. Office when i couldnt get the words i wanted out the way i wanted😢 " im still in here .. I was intelligent.... I'm still intelligent... I'm still in here.... I'm Still In Here..." With louder and more frustrated emphasis until Hubby hugged me and i just 😭 It was soooo embarrassing and frustrating... And It was because the Dr. Wasn't listening ( which wasn't an assumption...Hubby had to get her to change her notes in my MyChart, cause they were completely off..... "Said i was 220Lbs" when I was weighed in at 144 that very day ... I had said i was most comfortable in my body at 220... " Said i was diagnosed with Snow Vision Syndrome"... hubby/ I had said we were looking into it as a plausible reason for the static overlay in my vision ,I've had my whole life...and is getting worse We were there to get a referral for a neurologist so we can rule out any "physical brain medicine aligned diagnosis' " with our currently worsening mental health symptoms 😢
Yikes, that made me remember my own pretty similar experience when I saw a psychiatrist for a referral to an ASD specialist and she just wasn’t listening to me. Essentially said that she felt I was suffering from social anxiety, not autistic, and refused to give me a referral. So, I had to spend a lot of money to go to a non-governmental clinic for my diagnosis instead. On the upside, she accepted that she was wrong after I got my ASD diagnosis and showed it to her before I dropped her to change to another doctor, she didn’t even apologise for invalidating me, saying that I was “crying because I’m not getting what I want” or costing me thousands of dollars, and excused herself saying my “autism is so mild that only an ASD specialist would recognise it”. I’m like, you could try *listening to your patients* and taking them seriously when they present you with their experience and medical history. Like, it was so easy for the ASD specialist, she looked at all the medical tests, I’d seen a neurologist before, physiotherapist, gastrointestinal specialist, and my mom and partner were able to give comprehensive accounts of my behaviour. She said I was one of the easiest to diagnose as autistic because I had such solid evidence and consistent accounts. The rude psychiatrist didn’t even listen to my mom when she talked about how I didn’t grow for 3 months as a baby or my childhood behaviour. My mom was probably more angry at the doctor than I was honestly haha Some people are just awful, so don’t feel bad about the breakdown, I hope things go well for you and even if we end up there for some reason, we just gotta keep reminding ourselves that these peoples’ opinions don’t matter because they don’t know jack squat.
Oh my geezers, what is wrong with them, how hard is it to realize that everybody presents differently. They have NO braincells!!! It just makes me so~ mad.
Bro they just keep on talking about those people's LOOKSSSSSSS It's actually so crazy that they KNOW that there's nothing to be picked on from these videos so they just make up things at this point
2:17 not a small red flag. The fact they're calling this person a girl as well as calling them self diagnosed together is just them showing they think they decide what is and isn't true about this person. UNLESS this person is a nonbinary identity that includes being a girl/they refer to themselves as a girl bc they're fem leaning or something- UNLESS THAT IS THE CASE: this person is going "UM NO, you're NOT nonbinary you're just a girl. You're NOT autistic you're just a bit different lile everyone else" or something. This person doesn't respect anything at all.
To be fair, there is no physical difference between a nonbinary AFAB person and a woman. So is nonbinary real? It just means being a woman who doesn't relate to the feminine stereotype. That's fine, many of us don't but if we bleed every month then we're a woman whether we like it or not.
3:43 I made a post on r/autism suggesting that there could be a culture surrounding autism. Not only did everyone get mad, but my post was taken down despite it not breaking the rules. Like one of the mods literally threatened to ban me💀
I just feel like everyone who enjoys this reddit needs to be shown that Michael Jordan "Stop it, get some help" meme on repeat until they actually do....get some help. The amount of projection is STAGGERING.
I was once told that I was mocking autistic people because I talk to, carry around, and have a relationship with a cardboard cutout of a character. I see inanimate objects as living and may have connection with objectum people. They said something about how I was falling into the "I identify as an attack helicopter" people. Like, dude, my whole life I've carried around movie cases, pictures, toys, etc., and talked to them. Like idk what to say.
The thing is, the people that say "i indentify as an attack helicopter" are the people trying to mock queer people... but the difference is that they aren't serious about that, they say that with the intent of making fun of people that are serious about their gender (which doesn't tend to be "attack helicopter")... You can't be mocking by doing something seriously (like interacting with an object as a person without the intent of doing it to mock people that do that as well). Being seen as strange isn't the same as trying to mock others that are also seen as strange.
About the sleep problems and autism/ADHD thing. I recently started taking melatonin after struggling with sleep issues my entire life, my therapist suggested i start taking it after she read that autistic people often have low melatonin levels. After only 6 days of supplementing I've noticed a huge improvement :) I still have trouble getting up but I noticed that I don't need as much time to 'boot up' as I used to and I don't feel daytime sleepiness as much anymore.
That one video you showed got to me. ‘Sensory issues are not something you’d ever wish to have’ like no shite Karen and Kevin. I don’t want them. But I have them regardless of what I want so let me post online like every other human being does to share and talk about the issues and sometimes the occasional cool thing being autistic brings. There are many people who have more severe support needs than me, you are correct about that. But you know the societal changes and accommodations many of us are advocating for will help those with higher support needs as well right?! Because I don’t think you get that. If you did you would be happy for your child that others who share a neurotype to him are advocating for people like them and like him. People with lower support needs and who are getting on and talking about these things FINALLY in the general population are the ones making autism more well known and those ‘quirky’ people you hate are making autism less of a mystery to others and more of a reality. That is a good thing. Sorry. I’ll hop off my soap box now. It’s not like these people will ever see this.
I ... used to walk on my toes, before people, including my parents, grandparents and doctors got me to not. And I am autistic, have been my whole life.
mental health is invisible and even a professional would hesitate to diagnose someone they haven't met so i feel randomers on the Internet should not be playing judge dury and executioner. Although I am certain some do lie about it for clout i feel like they are the minority
24:34 "remarkably normal", that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one lol. As someone bullied into appearing normal, wishing I could be at least 5% myself around other people, yet deeply afraid of social rejection if I dare, it hurts to hear someone having this as a great acheivement. No judging if that's what they really want for themselves, but man it hurts.
25:05 this right here makes me think of the quote "i should not have to perform my rock bottom to be believed". it was said specifically about someone recovering from ocd, but applies to SO many conditions and disorders and life circumstances in general
I really really want to thank you for what you and your channel have done for the Autistic community and for my growth as a person. I'm someone who was diagnosed very young (i know now that that's unusual, and I was very lucky to start seeing a great mental health team as basically a toddler) so I've lived over 20 years, most of my life, knowing or at least having some concept that I'm Autistic. For so many years in my small town, I didn't think there were other Autistic people around me. None of my peers were talking about being diagnosed and I was regularly given either the "what's that?" response when I told people, or just ignorant misunderstandings they got from Autism Speaks. I think growing up this way really lead me to unintentionally build walls up with the Autistic community I could have now. I've never been a member of "fake disorder cringe" thank god, but I have held similar beliefs about "self-diagnosed" autistic people or even people diagnosed as adults. I kept thinking things like, "i'm so tired of everyone taking my lived experience that has been at times traumatic, and turning it into a trend. these people must be faking because it's 'cool' to be autistic now". But through a lot of your videos i've come to understand how wrong I was for thinking that way. You've pretty much opened my eyes to the drastic underrepresentation of women in autism diagnoses which could lead to them discovering their autism later in life, and so many other things that make me cringe at how I thought a year ago. Anyway, this comment is long af but yeah, thank you.
I’m autistic and I wake up every day by 3am, usually at 2am. I do that to avoid noise and traffic and crowds. But some people just want to believe what they want.
Once I checked out this subreddit, one of the top posts was a picture of text and the hand flapping stimming emoji you see everywhere. And it had text saying “no thoughts, only happy hand flaps. Flappy flappy flappy. Happy flapping” etc. and EVERYONE zeroed in on the clear joke of “no thoughts, only happy hand flaps” and portrayed it as the poster thinking autistic people are stupid. When it’s a very common meme phrase 😭 it tells me that they aren’t coming from a good mindset or what to protect the disordered community. They’re just nitpicking everything they see and call it fake or offensive, even if it’s not.
If I didn't value my faith in good in humanity Id go ask people on this subreddit how a person's appearance could possibly let you know how their brain works every day and therefore un-diagnose them. Bc literally why do people think an afab person using makeup can't be autistic??? Autism doesn't make everyone completely unable to do that
They just posted about your video on the subreddit. I don't know if they like you there. I on the other hand am glad you are calling them out. You have been very helpful to me on my autistic journey and hope to contribute to your patreon in the near future as thanks.
Yesterday I was helping my friends at an event in a wax museum. Even during setup it was very noisy and there was just so much going on that I froze in place staring off into the distance. One of the sound guys got my attention and said, “I was starting to think you were a wax figure! I kept looking over and you hadn’t moved at all.” The position I got stuck in wasn’t even neutral, it looked like I was reaching out to grab something 😅 So yeah, that dissociating in public places thing is super relatable
About heritability when I suspected I'm autistic (in a ripe age of 29) I remembered that my cousin was the most stereotypical autistic boy. He knew flags of all countries when he was 5 and drunk carrot juice till his back got orange and doctor told him to stop. And you know what my grandpa often did after a stressful day? Casually took radio apart and put it back together. And I'M the weirdo of this family?! 😂
In my opinion people who are very insecure in themselves crave this judgemental kind of content. It's never a reflection of the people they're "calling out", but how they see themselves and externalizing their insecurities. Perhaps some of these people are autistic or adhd themselves and have the guilt and shame associated with being undiagnosed
@@LiterallyInklingGirl I they are serious and maybe slightly exaggerating. But they are not wrong. Countelsss of the people who end up on this subreddit have been diagnosed by medical professionals something which probably NONE of these people mocking them and dismissing them as "self-diagnosed fakers" genuinely tried to find out.
"I'm spitting facts" - "You're spitting _something_ " I'm LMAO IDK if you're lgbtqia+ or genderqueer yourself, but nonetheless I really appreciate you calling this stuff out. It often goes unmentioned, so I really appreciate that we enbies don't have to _nag_ about it ourselves in the comment section (and also go ignored, safe for some ragebaiting respones here and there). Keep up the good work!
I used to watch cringe compilations when I was young, around middle school age. And I distinctly remember the point where I went to watch one of those videos and it was just… so distasteful. I found myself relating to the people (often minors) in the videos or feeling sympathy for them more than laughing at them. I think that was a big turning point for me realizing that a lot of what is labeled “cringe” is just an excuse to bully people who are different
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14:43 I have been saying this!! I think that, perhaps in the next DSM, they may consider either combining the diagnoses, or at the VERY least making note of their high comorbidity rates and common traits, such as special interests, difficulty shifting focus, emotional dysregulation, etc. Afaik, the DSM-V doesn't even mention them as related conditions, which is absurd because they clearly are. (I am AuDHD, for the record.)
Idk if this will help any, but I think an important shift in mindset for anyone to have is going from valuing all perspectives, to realizing some perspectives are so baseless they might actually be more harm than good. I believe we all (as humans) have things we we can add to certain conversations, but no one can add something of value to every conversation. I hope this helps. Also, as someone that also named themselves when they were a big fan of anime (Naruto in my case) I love your username
Subreddits like these are a big big big part of the reason I barely leave comments anywhere .. my anxiety is too high and I don't wanna end up on the wrong platform and totally picked apart and totally out of context .. :(
the subreddit that both scares me from and is also partially why i am publicly a system online 0:12 r/DID and do not have "self diagnosed, questioning", flairs it has "Treatment: unassessed" which is specifically for those who are in mh treatment but have not received a dx yet, but as things are going you know its kinda probably a dissocative disorder .. (yes im on the sub that much to recognize this immediately, i have a problem)
One of my videos was put on fake disorder cringe. I went on the discord and messaged the admin. And they took it off the reddit because it was against the rules to post it without bluring faces..? It was weird.
The irony of "no bullying or harrassment" in a subreddit aimed at bullying and harrassing people while deciding whether or not someone else has a mental illness. 🤔 Where are your credentials in undiagnosing other people you do not know? 🧐 *That part with the sleeper waking up - me. every. morning. 😂
you can fall in thos subreddit so easily, some years ago i watched some fake disorder video where people just make tiktok compilation and sometimes writes things or put memes to make fun of thos people i was SURE they were really faking, and one day i watched a youtuber who i know have DID, react to videos likes the ones that was on the fake disorders turn out a lot of things i thought was exaggerate, was actually real symptoms/real things people do so yeah your videos are really useful, thanks for doing them (and they are very entertaining) :)
This subreddit made me want to commit the...thing you can't come back from. I was posted there long time ago, and when someone pointed it out to me it made me give up vlogging and posting on social media altogether (except art for my portfolio). I was also diagnosed with AuDHD during adulthood (3 years ago), and the diagnosis kind of lifted a heavy burden off my shoulders, as I didn't quite know much about autism or ADHD and I really thought I was a rude person before, though I never intended to be.
Is it pkay if I ask about how to get an evaluation/how you got yours? I've been thinking for a while that I might be autistic and/or adhd but I want a confirmation one way or another and I don't really know where to start, it seems like the only places that do evals only diagnose children.
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More nonsense from fake disorder cringe. I can’t believe they came for that skit!!! I loved it so much.
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And here’s the cosy Halloween TikTok reaction if you need something wholesome: th-cam.com/video/x5K6_sXMu1E/w-d-xo.html
Thank you sooo much for all of your support during the upheaval of this move 💛📦 Promise the box setup won’t be around for too long 😅
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Thank you for doing what you do. I’ve only known I have ADHD until last year. I appreciate your videos as they do help me understand myself a bit more alongside my therapy sessions as I go about what I like to say is my true self discovery. These also help me understand more of the community I may not have learned more about otherwise. Your work is so greatly appreciated. 🫶🏻
Good to know your name is Megan and not Im autistic now what :D
I can easily imagine how a lot of these people on Fake Disorder Cringe might have lived with their conditions, and only knew shame and self hatred. Only to see red, when noticing others expressing themselves in a seemingly lighthearted ( or at the very least non-morose ) fashion, in regards to their condition. And thus decided to lash out in this manner.
The issue here is that kids/teens really WANT to have autism or self diagnose themselves with it. People really fake this stuff. And you can clearly see if they’re faking. So overdramatic like crazy stimming or something.
This is basically calling out fakers.
No insults or bullying allowed in the insults and bullying subreddit.
Isn't that ironic? I-R-O-N-I-C xD
Your username is hilariously appropriate
You can’t call ME horrid things, but I’m allowed to call THEM horrid things.
Remember guys, bullying is okay if everyone else is doing it too /s
The one user suggesting other cringe subreddits to the new user, but telling them they should be careful because the other subs are not as "lenient" should have been the whole subs first clue...
Love how they're soooo informed on autism that they can tell when someone's faking, yet they don't even know that AuDHD is a thing. 🙃
Yes… they surely *can tell* when someone’s faking it. They’re self-imposed savants of autism spectrum studies.
“Fake phycologist cringe” lol
They're just stuck on the DSMIV, they haven't quite gotten to 2013 yet give em some time
What is the meaning of that emoji? Does it have a specific meaning? Sorry, just confused
@@FishyFlya reversed smiley emoji usually gives a silly and/or sarcastic undertone depending on context
One of the reasons that an autistic person like me might not get a diagnosis is because of discrimination. Both my psychologist & psychiatrist say I am almost certainly autistic, but we decided that it would not be in my best interests to pursue an official diagnosis because my abusive ex-husband would almost certainly use it against me in child custody matters... Sometimes not getting a diagnosis is protective... It doesn't make me any less autistic though.
As an AuDHD lady who has dealt with a contentious custody situation for over 15 YEARS now, yes, absolutely, putting yourself in a vulnerable position is a BAD idea! I just got diagnosed, but have not thrown it around out in the world just yet, though I feel I’m safe from any custody challenge at this point. There will come a day when it may be safer for you to get a diagnosis; I got mine to try to ensure my daughter (who is also AuDHD) and myself stay housed, fed, and provided with medical care long-term. Or, you may never choose to pursue formal diagnosis, and that is also fine! Just wanted to reinforce that your instincts here are GOOD! 👍
The fact this could put your custody of your own kids in danger is insane. I hope things go alright for you
@@rainbowsorceress2082Infantilization and stuff of people with disabilities is such a virus.
Ableism like that towards people with disabilities often comes from toxic communities like r/fakedisordercringe.
If something spreads through social media, it can impact the way people see certain disorders. It's awful.
Also, many countries don't accept immigrants who are diagnosed autistic! So if you plan to move to a different country, or if you worry you may have to escape your home country, having a diagnosis can prevent you from being able to leave your home country.
Along with many other forms of discrimination against autistic people. You can be denied jobs, proper medical care (lots of US doctors will ignore autistic patients' health complaints), loss of custody of their children as you've already mentioned, denied gender affirming care, and on the more extreme end some people have been institutionalized or forced into conservatorship (which strips so many rights to autonomy) solely for being autistic. Just to name a few, I am quite possibly forgetting some things.
If I could afford a diagnosis, I would still probably not seek one out as I am trans and the greater risk of being mistreated by doctors is just dangerous for me. I already have had to deal with enough of that without the diagnosis.
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I was posted to fake disorder cringe and I'm a minor. It's so disgusting they will post everyone including literal children and people with disorders that being fakeclaimed can really affect their mental health.
Exactly, it's so disgusting. They think everything is faking autism.
I'm so sorry that happened to you!
Can you report the post to reddit (not the subreddit mods)?
Its like they want us to go invisable
Hey friend, I just want you to know that I am sorry this happened and I do believe you. Seeing so many people claim others are “faking” their disorder with no evidence is so gross. You do not owe people your medical history or diagnostic status, especially assholes on the internet that will use the diagnosis(or lack thereof) against you.
I work in a psychiatry clinic and I truly believe the first step to getting help is realizing something is off. You cannot get an autism diagnosis as an adult without realizing something is sort of “off” about you.. that being said, self diagnosis is the first step to getting help and making life more manageable. I would’ve never gotten an ADHD diagnosis at 19 if I didn’t realize for myself that I probably had adhd.
It has been an incredibly frustrating experience as a neurodivergent woman in their early 20s navigating the workforce in nursing. My coworkers will often get annoyed with me for asking clarifying questions, being “too much”, or getting overwhelmed. But those same coworkers will turn around and say shit like “oh my gosh I swear I have ADHD” because they can’t remember ONE thing. Like, bruh.
I'm so sorry it happened to you too. I was posted on there too, and I am literally diagnosed as AuDHD. Made me delete my videos and give up posting vlogs.
This subreddit is so astounding to me because it's a lose-lose situation. If you fit very easy to see, or easy to find out stereotypes (dyed hair, being queer, very obvious stimming), you're just trying to be quirky and you're faking it, but if you look more "normal," or if you're afab (because lets be honest this subreddit is incredibly misogynistic) and maybe are good at masking, you're considered not autistic enough, which is crazy
Also unrelated but can I just say THE OUTFIT. The earrings and that collar are super spooky and cool!! Looks super awesome!! :D
Taking into account how women are less likely to be properly diagnosed, those "self diagnosed autistic girls'" posts feel extra misogynistic
“You can’t be autistic if you look autistic” “you can’t be autistic if you don’t look autistic” all I hear is “you can’t be autistic”
Autism doesn’t have a certain look to it. I’d definitely fall under the ‘normal’ looking person who couldn’t possibly be autistic in the eyes of some. It’s got everything to do with the brain. So there’s nothing external people can use to deduce someone’s autism.
@@LiterallyInklingGirl exactly like what do they think autism is?? Like it feels like the moment they see someone autistic they're like "how can I find some crazy excuse of a reason for why this person is faking it for attention"
@@nose-rice It’s so ironic how most of us are the exact opposite: We hide who we are. And once we get the courage to put off the mask and embrace who we are, people will think we’re attention seeking.
The irony of a subreddit cringing at “fake disorders” is that they, themselves, are being cringe for criticizing disabled people.
And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those claim to be autistic to get a pass at bullying autistic people, but I have never seen them gatekeep those claims =p
@@Laezar1 Being autistic should never be used an excuse to bully someone. And anyone who believes that it can be used as an excuse needs a reality check.
@@riakun I mean they don't use it directly as an excuse but more as an argument of authority like "I'm autistic and I can tell they're faking" that kind of stuff.
And it's just telling that there's never any skepticism for those claims.
@@Laezar1 well, of course, because those autistic people agree with the subreddit and are thus the only "true" cases of autism online 🙄
Seriously though it's so goofy and I hate the double standard the subreddit has.
@@Laezar1It's like those transvestigators. And eventually, they cannibalize each other.
Also, LGBT people on there are like, "as a transgender, all of these other transgender people are definitely faking it."
I'm a low masking generally uncanny looking upper middle class white guy who spends all day on some sort of computer and goes everywhere with his mom. And I was still once told that I was faking it, like do you have to be completely nonverbal to avoid that allegation alltogether?
No. I’m not nonverbal but I am non speaking a lot of the time, any time I have big emotions I can’t speak with my vocal chords. And sometimes it just happens for days or weeks at a time for unknown reasons. And pretty much my whole life I’ve been accused of faking autism, a few times before I even knew what autism was. I have known a few peers as well who are completely nonverbal also be lobbed with similar accusations. Thsi is very anecdotal but at least in my experience, no manner of more physical traits bars you from that. People actually think we’re out here using AAC devices or TTS apps just to make their lives harder like some kind of trickster spirit
there's no way to avoid it. people just are used to bullying "weirdos" without being challenged. So they'll make whatever excuse they can to keep bullying. But there are lots of NTs who don't bully, so don't loose all hope.
I’ve noticed that if you express autistic joy at all, people on the subreddit with say “your not autistic because autism causes lots of problem!” So you guess you just have to be miserable all the time?
@@LiterallyInklingGirlTbh I am quite miserable a lot of the time, so I guess I get a pass?
@@LiterallyInklingGirl yeah, and it sucks. autism can cause a lot of problems, true, i experience some myself such as meltdowns. but do i hate being autistic? am i incapable of experiencing joy because of my autism? hell no. i do like being autistic because for as much as it causes me problems i also feel as though i have such a strong grasp on myself and who i am because of my tendency to get lost in my head, i love talking to other autistic people who i'm able to relate to on a very personal level and talk to them for hours upon hours, and i love fandom spaces because it feels like such a great place for me and other neurodivergent people to freely express our interests without as much fear of judgement or ostricization. not to mention, even for the negative parts of my autism, its not like im unable to accomodate myself either. i cant tie shoes, so i get shoes that don't have to be tied. i don't like loud noises, so i either wear headphones or carry earplugs with me when i go outside. etc etc. autism is a disability but its also a simple difference and being autistic doesn't automatically mean that you have to be doomed to a life of misery.
I've always hated cringe comps it's just bullying people who are different with VERY FEW fakers
Oh my god, yes. I watched one out of curiosity and none of the people depicted in the video were being harmful/bad. And a lot of it is just body shaming?? Cringe culture is so dumb.
Cringe culture is legit just bullying but with a more acceptable name, hence why it got so normalized. I mean, bullying and harassing behavior were already very normalized but the term cringe culture being applied to bulling has only made it worse. That's my theory anyways
@@ww3196The worst part is these people will never feel any respinsibility if they cause someone to end their own lives or self harm. They'll just claim it's not their fault and blame the person who hurt or k-ed themselves, as if they know how human psychology works better than an actual psychologist. Yes, self harm and "self end" have been used as manipulation tactics before by abusers and manipulative people, and still are used by manipulative people and abusers to this day, but when you immediately assume that the person you were basically bullying or crapping on on a subreddit made for that only self ended or self harmed as another form of attention seeking or manipulation, then that may be a problem with you and not them. Not everyone who becomes a victim of cringe culture who self harms or self ends is doing it purely as a manipulation tactic.
Most cringe comps are just ableism,body shaming, or obvious satire
Agreed, it’s like how 2 people would fake being trans for internet fame and now people think that some actual trans people aren’t actually trans cause of something they do
This entire subreddit is made for bullying. I truly don’t understand how reddit hasn’t taken it down yet.
I got called stupid and down voted to hell for telling people to stop making fun of a little fat girl. Reddit is a shit hole.
IKR, the only people that should be doing that are medical professionals and even then, only if necessary for treatment and with appropriate care to properly diagnose the thing that's leading to the wrong self-diagnosis. I'm deeply skeptical that fake self-diagnoses are a common enough thing to worry much about. Especially not when compared with bad media depictions.
Ikr. They don't even ban troll communities
there are tons of weird, creepy subreddits that need to be taken down 😭
That's so cute you think reddit cares about bullying 😭😭😭 this stuff is nice for reddit. Reddit is 4chan for people who aren't AS mean and unempathtic. That place is mean and scary. I don't really use it anymore but when I did, I only used the community for my country, and the ones for autistic women specifically. Even the ADHD women's subreddit I left cause I got harassed. It's madness.
Bullies can always spot autistic people to harass, so by bullying people who they think are faking being autistic, they are proving that those people are genuinely autistic 😁
Yes! That's the way to see the positive 😅❤
I wish I was faking AuDHD instead of eating the chocolate cake I made at 1 AM because my homework was giving me anxiety, so I was cleaning the kitchen up to escape from it and then I found a bag of used cocoa powder and thought "hey I should use this up" and the ADHD took over my body and now the kitchen is even messier that it was at the start but the chocolate thing is yummy.
And the homework is still not done of course
12:07 it is funny how if the person does not “look autistic” they can’t be autistic, but if they do “look stereotypically autistic”, they also can’t be autistic (like the first person in this video) 🙄
Why do people with the tism always look weird though??
@@THERMALSCOPES13 because a literal symptom of autism is not fitting in the norm. We’re considered strange for nt’s, of course we’d be considered weird looking if we’re bad at masking (like I am)
also many autistic people feel safe in subcultures, and I can say this as an autistic goth, because they’re often ostracised too so of course we’d fit in with the weird groups. It’s pretty easy to figure out if you know anything about autism
@@THERMALSCOPES13they like dont tho.?
@@THERMALSCOPES13everyone looks different from one another (for the most part), I don’t know what you mean. Yes, some people don’t look however you think they should… doesn’t mean they’re autistic or not, want an odd question.
25:24 The crux is that people who use r/FDC have this weird notion that every autistic person has horrible struggles and that autism only causes negatives in life. It is a SPECTRUM disorder, people will experience it in vastly different ways. I don’t understand why autistic joy is frowned upon, why do you want me to be miserable??
Autistic people are people with lives.
People with lives tend to expérience à mix of positive and négative émotions.
Like how can they think that one factor in someone's life automatically makes them just misérable?? ???
Most people are happy at least once in a while
YES OMG. Autism has lots of debilitating symptoms but we can experience happiness people!!
@@LiterallyInklingGirl I was told I couldn't be autistic because im married and before I was married I lived on my own...from a doctor with an autistic child she saw as the blueprint for diagnosing
Like does the fact i almost unalived myself as a teen validate my autism, or does it invalidate it because I overcame it?
Do i have to die to prove I'm autistic? It's ridiculous.
@@LilChuunosuke they’d call that attention seeking. I’m so sorry you went through all of that and I’m glad you’re still here with us 🫂
i think the reason why people on the subreddit get so angry over autistic /and or adhders talk about harmless traits is because they relate to them themselves. neurotypicals are terrified of being seen as neurodivergent that they have to quickly say that "oh, but i do x, it doesn't mean i'm y". they always take it personally, making it about themselves.
the subreddit is just internalized ableism disguised as genuine worry for autistic people.
true. There seems to be a lot of internalized shame in that subreddit! And it's sad, I don't think anyone should have to feel shame for things that aren't harmful or wrong.
It's the "Not like the other neurodivergent people": the subreddit.
It reminds me of a lot of autistic people I see in both that subreddit and r/AmITheAsshole. They seem to have a lot of internalised ableism and desperately want to please neurotypicals by convincing them that they're "not one of those neurodivergents".
From what I've seen of the subreddit, it's more so autistic people who know they're autistic, but really struggle with it and can't stand seeing other autistic people living their lives happily and authentically, with a side of also wanting an easy target to blame for their struggles. IIRC there's actually a rule on the subreddit that you can't bring up your own diagnosis because so many people were doing that. I've seen a lot of people on there who get very very angry about autistic people finding any sort of joy in the way they are because "if they were actually autistic they'd know it's horrible and awful and there's nothing good about it!" I think a lot of the hate comes from a place of genuine pain (and yes, definitely also internalised ableism).
I've seen a similar sort of pattern in transmedicalist communities (which have a *huge* user overlap with the fakedisordercringe subreddit) - it's just a whole lot of very angry people flying into a rage over teenagers enjoying exploring their gender identity and coming up with quirky neopronouns, because they can't imagine a way of being trans that isn't just endless suffering. They claim that if those people were really trans, they'd be miserable 24/7 and wouldn't be able to celebrate their identity and have fun with it. It's a whole lot of projection. And then there's also the attitude of "if these fakers just went away then we'd be treated better! They're the reason for all our problems!" - which is obviously just not true in the slightest, but I can see how it's a comforting thought, in a way. When you're struggling, it's easier to blame it on a single cause, because then it feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel, like if this one thing would change then everything would be okay again.
It's very sad really once you start thinking about the mentality of those types of people and where it comes from. It's not an excuse for bullying of course, but I can empathise with that feeling of hopelessness and feeling completely disconnected and isolated from others who are more positive about their circumstances.
Like a pastor saying that having thoughts about men is normal even when you have a wife, and it does not make you gay.
Me telling my mom I've been diagnosed with ASD
She asking why I thought of autism in the first place
Me explaining different traits and behaviours
She telling me those are normal
She getting an appointment with a psychiatrist specialized in ASD.
When I had my diagnosis I told my mum about all the different traits. All I got was, oh, I do that too or I have that too. And then she blurts out, that how she brought me up was more on the basis how she felt and would have liked and she never really thought I was different. I would disappear in my room after school and my mum went up in the attic whe she wanted peace. We are very alike.
The story of our family too (me mentioning how well I get along with all the moms of autistic kids at school because they're so straight forward like me, both my kids giving me pointed looks). I'm thinking this is probably very common.
Yep. My mother says, you're not autistic, you're just like your dad. Dad almost certainly has autism, as do his siblings. Holidays are interesting because we all info dump to each other about horses or psychology or fungi.
My mom just accuse me of "pretending" to the point that she told teachers the same thing when I was still in school. Just "faking it for sympathy/leniency/special treatment/be the center of attention/imitating someone" and to not believe my "act". She refused to get me evaluated by a professional and left me winging my way through life.
"what do you mean, thats perfectly normal" - says the obviously autistic mother who just has never been diagnosed
if I had a penny for every time this happens I would have few hundred bucks for sure at this point
There are so many double standards in this reddit it's wild, like ok you think you can't be diagnosed in 10 minutes and yet you are literally telling someone they can't be autistic after knowing them (from online!) for not even 10 minutes. It's so wild and harmful.
Wait till they find out you can get diagnosed in basically 10 minutes
I was diagnosed with ADHD in like under two minutes of MEETING the psych
My parents and psychologist did a box checking thing, idk if my school did, and I was just asked a few questions so she could know me from me
I joke she instantly clocked me once she saw me
Hahaha i completely agree with your comment but i also had to come here to agree with zuru. I finally got a therapist in May that specializes in treating ND adults, within the first five minutes she was like “are you interested in looking at the path for getting a formal autism diagnosis?”
I was like ¿mission failed successfully?
I'm replying to both of you, and yes I know! My therapist saw me within 10 minutes of meeting them and said that I should look into an ND diagnosis. But these people are too silly to even register that being diagnosed can be as quick as that.
After like 20 years of not going to a doctor, my first visit to a primary care doctor had him ready to refer me to a psych for adhd evaluation in about 90 seconds.
The only thing that slowed down the psych from diagnosing me was asking me if I'd ever heard of autism...
And indeed, narcissists are well-known for their double-standards
@@zuruaeclipse No.
They’ve got a whole subreddit dedicated to paying attention to “attention seekers”?! That’s a very niche personality trait 👀
I never thought about it that way, that's hilarious
@@turtleburger200 same!
Underrated comment!
It's only attention seeking if it's anything related to a disability. These people think they are in the right to assume every autistic person is faking from a 10 second clip of them. They don't realize how crazy that is, bullying disabled people on a Reddit forum because of your own perception of them faking is somehow not attention seeking in of itself.
A friend I actually know personally once got posted onto fake disorder cringe so I commented on the post to defend them and my comment got removed for “white-knighting”
@@auromaconbre5800 because god forbid you don’t tolerate their bullying and fake claiming/s
We were banned for "white knighting" for literally defending myself (and it was easy to see cause we had the same username and profile pic on reddit as in the screenshots that were posted)
That sub is a cesspool and one of the main reasons we stopped using reddit
Ah yes the return of the goofy hypocrite subreddit that still don’t realize the irony of freaking out about self diagnosis while simultaneously thinking they can decide who doesn’t have a diagnosis based off of literally nothing but vibes or whatever.
Next they’ll start going after people posting gluten free recipes and deciding people are faking celiac disease because they had an unpopular opinion about tomatoes. Same level of stupid tbh.
“You can’t diagnose yourself but I can because I’m somehow smarter” like wtf
It is fair to call out the misinformation related to dissociative disorders, though. There's a reason sdx is discouraged - Because many disorders have dissociation as a symptom and it's impossible to view in the self.
@@The_Bean If it were just about spreading accurate information about certain disorders and encouraging formal diagnosis, that'd be one thing. Instead, however, they've decided to waste time picking at videos of people whose appearances they don't like and un-diagnosing them for any old stupid shallow reason they can think of, often without having a clue whether they have a formal diagnosis or not. It's highly hypocritical, because they know full well they don't know enough to make those claims either. If they want to really combat misinformation and make accurate information known, they should act like it, enforce those rules of theirs, and leave their cringey high school bully drivel in the dust. I mean, why would anyone take a group seriously in the first place if their stated purpose is laughing at people?
@@The_Beanyou can’t diagnose someone or claim they’re not the diagnosis *they* say they are off of a video or a post they made. you don’t know this person, you haven’t lived with them and even if you have, you are not them and you cannot know if they’re faking or not. again, not everyone’s experiences will be the same and a lot of the people they post, like this video said (it goes for non-autistics posted on the subreddit too!) are actually diagnosed professionally. just because someone has a dissociative disorder doesn’t mean they have to be miserable 24/7 or act a certain way all the time. also, harassing vulnerable and mostly young people on the internet is never fair for ANY reason. it is very possible to view it in the self by the way:) just saying
Fake Disorder Cringe rules sound like Bizarro World level nonsense; On another subject I love your ear rings Megan.
Thank you so much!
@@imautisticnowwhatOh gosh! They are skeleton hands.
Pretty unique rings.
I've wanted to get my ears pierced for about a year or so now. Lol.
Is this community mostly diagnosed autistics later in life? I got my diagnosis in early childhood.
That's got to be a much different experience.
@@imautisticnowwhatIf you hate this subreddit, r/truscum is pretty bad too.
They're medical gatekeepers like r/fakedisordercringe.
They specialize in telling trans people they have to be dysphoric and want surgery to be trans.
Both of these subreddits like to gatekeep trans people a lot, I've noticed.
truscum is a term for transmedicalist. Basically, someone with the viewpoint that, you must have dysphoria (pain/bad feeling related to your gender/body/presentation) and want to get surgery. It's weird.
Fakedisordercringe also has this thing where they believe that dysphoria is a very specific thing. And use a very exclusive definition, that, basically, others trans people. Like, cis people can feel dysphoric in their bodies too!
Like, hair, height, etc.
@@imautisticnowwhatWait, so, I just realized, r/fakedisordercringe is a lot like those antique "freak shows". That make fun of people's appearances and conditions for spectable. Just horrible.
@@HelloHamburgerI personally got my diagnosis in my early teens, so I think it’s a big mix, but there are quite a few late diagnosed autistic people here
"No Bullying" in the rules of an entire Bullying Subreddit 😒
Also, I absolutely love your outfit today!! ❤
Let me fix that rule to be accurate:
"No bullying the *in group* "
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This right here ^^^
As a future social worker I see so many issues in these type of behaviours besides the bullying.
1. You cannot diagnose a person based on a one minute video! Doesn't matter if you're a trained professional or not. A diagnosis is formed based on many different medical exams (physical tests, interviews of the patiens and sometimes their parents etc.). Such a video is nowhere near enough for a correct diagnosis.
2. It is possible that some of these people fake a disorder. Faking a disorder for attention is obviously not okay and can cause serious issues for those who actually have the disorder that is faked in the video, mainly because of stigmas and misconceptions. That doesn't give anybody the right to bully said people! You can educate others why that is damaging and the possible consequences of said behaviour.
3. We also have to keep in mind that faking a disorder for attention means that there are serious issues in these peoples lives (e.g. lack of love and care from parents or supposed loved ones etc.). Faking a disorder for attention can be a symptom of a mental health condition as well (munchhausen syndrome).
While it may be possible that some people might be actually faking medical conditions, that doesn't mean that someone should accuse a person for "faking it". Fakeclaiming is damaging, no matter what. Come to think of it, isn't fakeclaiming basically slander?
Also even if they aren't Autistic, that doesn't necessarily mean they're faking.
It's possible they have some other Condition like ADHD, and mistook their symptoms for Autistic symptoms when it's something else. That doesn't make them a Faker. It's completely understandable for someone who realizes that something is different with them to try and go search for an answer, and sometimes they make a mistake or their sources are unreliable so they wind up thinking that they have something they don't actually have. Most self-diagnosed Autistics don't have the training to fully evaluate their symptoms, and it's perfectly understandable that a few might've gotten it wrong. Those people don't deserve bullying either.
Exactly! These people on this sub and others who "expose" supposed fakers are literally just armchair psychologists.
Also, if they think they're all doing this for attention, why are they giving these people what they want? Would 't reposting their video onto a subreddit and trying to make them infamous basically be giving them attention like they want? A person like that won't care if they recieve negative attention, because attention is all they want. If these people really think they're doing this just for attention, they should just ignore them and do something more productive with their lives.
Your last point is especially important and doesn't get the attention it deserves. I once was friends with a kid who faked disorders for attention. He was actually diagnosed with some other very serious medical conditions that caused him to behave this way (its been many years and he tried to keep it a secret, so i can't remember what it was). He was a very sick kid who needed help. Bullying and shaming would've only made him worse. I hold no ill will towards this guy, even though he almost exclusively communicated through lies. I hope he got the help he needed.
@@LilChuunosuke i also think that point 3 is really important. why would do some of the stuff they say is "just for attention" without Really needing some attention?
"oh, they're just doing that for attention - you should ignore them" just doesn't sit well with me either
I can't in a million years imagine how something called "fake disorder cringe" could possibly be used in good faith.
If for some reason the person really was proven to be faking neurodivergence, at least then they would be better investigators and may use it as a way to “identify people who are faking disorders”, but the cringe part makes it clear that even if they limited their scope to people they can prove are faking neurodivergence they would still mock them. Other comments point out that either way the person is not ok; either they have comorbidities, lack a stereotypical trait, or are lying which itself indicates another mental disorder or a need for attention or is a cry for help. So even if it wasn’t just an excuse for freely mocking mentally ill people and neurodivergent people, at its core it will lead to mockery.
@@iantaakalla8180 i mean 'cringe' is basically a code word for queer, autistic "weird" people. the whole 'their faking' shit is just to make that seem more "okay" to themselves, im pretty sure (not that it would actually change anything)
Anything in relation to cringe culture can not have, at its core, good faith. The entire goal of cringe culture is for envious and cynical people to bond over the sadistic destruction of any expression of self or authenticity. It's rotten to the core, and so are the ghouls that partake in it.
seriously.
Try to survive being neurodivergent on 2024 reddit (impossible)
Idk, r/adhd is pretty supportive
@@overthinkingkpopThere are always exceptions to the rule.
It really sucks how ADHD (even if it is still stereotyped) is way more accepted than autism
@@smartsmartie7142I’ve been in both ADHD and autistic circles in social media as an AuDHD lady. ADHD people are fun and funny. We talk about how we can’t use the bathroom correctly at the age of 30 or 40, or what it’s like when the Ritalin or Adderall kicks in, and we laugh and commiserate and it’s awesome. The shift to autistic social media is… tricky. So much fussing over words and colors and shapes and if people are “really” autistic and there was a whole sub-group on Twitter (now X, I’m off now that it’s X) dedicated to declaring people not persisting in publicly wearing masks in 2023 were, um, deliberately ending them, I think is the safe way to say it? Anyway, I guess it’s not shocking that autistic circles are much more judgy and not as good at partying as ADHD circles, but I definitely noticed the contrast! 😅
@@misspat7555 that's interesting. I think a lot often also just depends on more context, social media spaces can vary a lot.
There's however a lot of trickiness with autism because of how stigmatised it still is too. People feel ashamed of autism way more and for example I've often heard people refer to themselves as high functioning as if they are trying to proof something. It's very difficult and I can very well understand language policing to not further spread hurtful messages. I think those are just some things that aren't that extreme with ADHD
Funny how they're against ableism and bullying yet are ableists and bullys themselves
It's okay to bully a disabled person if it's mild enough that you accuse them of faking. Classic narcissistic strategy, hiding behind a false facade the problem is you can't prove that they know what they are doing but the same goes for the disabled people that they are accusing of faking so they are still in the wrong no matter what unless there is solid evidence of them faking
Love the one diagnosed at 8 having zero awareness of how difficult life is for people who fell through the cracks and either got a late life diagnosis or live places assessments are out of reach due to cost and delays. They credit their parents with helping them turn out "normal." How would they have turned out with no support?
As someone diagnosed at 3 in daycare, and who got the needed treatment, I think it's of upmost importance for people like me to appreciate their privilege before speaking. I was very fortunate to have been able to go to a special Ed school. I would be almost certainly much, much worse off without all the support I received.
I was a full blown addict by 25 because the highs made socializing less overwhelming. So that’s how no support turned out for me. It’s possible I would’ve taken the same path either way, but that I’ll never know.
As someone who was diagnosed at 28 and first attempted to unalive myself at 14, and still doesn’t have a job. Mhm yeah, it’s rough to be missed. Almost a third of a lifetime of feeling like a failure, and I count myself lucky to have found out at 28, I can start to accept myself and unlearn the negative cycles my brain takes because of trauma. I can’t imagine how rough it must have been for those who are diagnosed at like 40 or above.
I wish I had the support to grow up into a "normal" functioning adult, but instead I got all my symptoms dismissed as laziness and stubbornness. Because I didn't know why I was struggling so much and I didn't have the words to describe my experience, I just assumed they were right about me. I internalized every negative label that was given to me to the point that I became suicidal in my teens.
@@Raven74408 I really identify with what you said and had similar experiences and outcome. I'm sorry you grew up feeling that way, too, and hope that you've been able to deprogram some of those early devastating messages.
the first vid is why i. wow. my jaw dropped like its such an innocent video. a cute video, they look cute . im nonbinary and i kind of look like that. i kind of want to look like that. th idea of someone just looking at me and just. hating me. for seemingly no reason is terrifying 😭 how is calling someone stupid for doing a cute kind of video eveyone else does not harrassment. this subreddit is so scary, yea. happy halloween!!!! LMFAO
I knowww - they do look cute!!
i agree 😭😭 they look like such a sweetheart! Don’t let it get to you❤❤ there will be plenty of people who look at you and think you look cool and nice. the people who think otherwise aren’t worth the energy
Fr. Calling them a “Fake nonbinary” because they were born a female…like dude
Its sucks to be hated for no reason. Just remember that it pales in comparison to how many people would either be neutral or even like you! It's a loud minority and I know autistic people can have a hard time filtering out loud sounds but this is one of those times we really gotta try.
@@AmbassadorBreadloaf Aww, I like the way you phrased this. Very logical, and also a very sweet pep talk. ♥️
One of my main issues with this subreddit is that sometimes little kids (AKA young me unfortunately) read into them and assumed that they were correct, so as an undiagnosed little child who didn’t know any better, I assumed I wasn’t neurodivergent, just weird, which made me start to hate myself and want to no longer be alive.
Edit: I still am depressed to this day because of all the hate I get from others and myself
i hope you can find people who love and accept you for your true self 💖💖💖
I think that the saddest thing about the whole subreddit is the autistic people actually supporting and fully believing it. I think we can all understand the want to have neurotypical people's approval, but it's clear that invalidating one's own community isn't the way :[
same with the trans/lgbt people who fall into this garbage 💀💀💀 really cool to prey on the insecurities of marginalized populations in order to turn them on themselves 🤩🤩🤩
People need to stop calling all gen z kids. That person is like.. not a kid. I’ve been called a “gen z kid.” I am almost 24
Older people forget that many people born after September 11, 2001 are now old enough to vote.
I think it's mostly a figure of expression from older generations. People who are millennials or older have the tendency to call those younger than them kids.
Especially those in their 20's, I do the same thing because I grew up around the vernacular. I don't think there's anything wrong with it unless people are being ageist about it (which these people can be).
@@transjesterr I do it for anyone who looks under 25 😅 (I’m 44)
It’s never intended in a disparaging or infantilising way, though. It’s more indulgent than nasty.
i'm a millennial and i'm still called a kid by older generations. i don't take it to heart though because i call people older (and younger!) than me kids as well lmao. it's just part of my vernacular
if they're *treating* me like they would a child that's a different story. (i don't like how most adults treat children to begin with but that's a whole different can of worms.) but the vernacular doesn't bother me
There’s definitely a problem with the infantilisation of autistic people. Literally so many of the people targeted by this subreddit are fully grown adults, yet they’re treated like they’re still middle-schoolers smh
one of my friends was posted on this subreddit and when we asked for the post to be removed they refused and told us to "not be so sensitive." Said friend was actually diagnosed as well. They sadly ended up deleting their accounts and just going private. People really need some hobbies.
Bruh… that’s awful, I guess it comes as no surprise that the mods are bullies too, I’m so sorry for your friend and hope they’re doing better without those awful people’s attention. It’s sad, but understandable to choose to pull out of social media and it’s good when people do so when they need to
i hate this subreddit... 🤢
wdtm you can't be non binary and afab 😭. afab is the sex not your gender identity. as people who are allegedly a part of the lgbt community they sure have super WRONG understanding of these terms.
Seriously I heard that and was like “….WHA??”
Did they think we don't have assigned sexes?
a lot of people think trans people, and ESPECIALLY nonbinary people, shouldn't be included in the community because it's not a sexuality. which is ridiculous. we're all queer
i'm of the opinion that a/dfab should not be used by trans people because those are intersex terms. we are not assigned our sex, we are our sex. we are also our gender. i refer to myself as natal female. it only matters to doctors anyway. they need to know what to expect, and what is Different On Purpose. to anyone else i'm just a man
Yeah I was like… um, they can’t really change that???
I think it's usually the case that they're wearing allyship as a mask, and that they actually neither know nor care anything about us.
I think I'm in the disordercringe subreddit, I thought it was actually discussing people outed as fakers... and then I looked at more than 3 posts.
same here
Yeah I would have figured it was that or all the dsmp did systems that showed up in people way over the age alters form
@@narrowwingI know a system with several factive alters of dsmp members. I've seen them melt down and struggle and they're absolutely not a faker. (Not that suffering = legitimacy) Really frustrating that people automatically assume a system is fake based on the identity of some alters being "cringe" to them. Systems aren't delusional, they know what they are, kinda annoying that people who don't understand feel the need to try to debunk them or whatever. /notmad
@@llynxfyremusic I don't think it's "cringe" alters that are a sign of faking. People can have "cringe" habits relating to a nerodivergence/mental illness they have because that's just how one has adapted or learned to cope. It's the people in their mid 20s (past the time where your brain kinda just solidifies habits and personality traits, not impossible, just a hell of a lot more difficult for people to change past that point) who suddenly have a whole new systems worth of alters, or people who trade their alters.
There's also a mental illness that you literally just mimic mental illnesses to the point where you believe you have it, and I guess basically do have it in some cases because of just how much you've convinced yourself.
I don't feel the need to expose, because it could be a different issue that's resulted in faking, but there's signs that makes me wary of a person. I've delt with too many scummy people who fake stuff just to make you feel bad for leaving them so that you stay in that unhealthy/abusive relationship.
I thought it would feature people like ticks and roses who were proven without a doubt to be faking. Instead it's just baseless speculation and mocking people with disabilities who they think are weird.
"Autistic people struggle with transitions" Thats weird because I was friends with this autistic boy back in school and I think she's doing really well!
I hope she’s doing rlly good
Yea because every autist is different.
lol this took me a minute
Thank you for making these videos about fake disorder cringe, I often hear some of these things in my day to day life, and hearing someone easily and clearly tear apart their claims makes me feel so much better and more confident. (This is especially because I am currently self-diagnosed, and they hate that.)
15:24 I saw something a while ago, mentioning that people with ADHD and/or autism who have a tendency to stay up late into the night would have been incredibly useful for protecting their peers during the night a long time ago. It might not be true, but I still think it’s cool. Sadly, the world is centered around working only during the day, which, if I’m being honest, feels a little unnatural for me. Bright lights, loud sounds, people everywhere… it’s overwhelming. Maybe one day we can all have our own schedules, not the one society wants us to have.
Ugh *that* subreddit. It's the main reason I refuse to share diagnoses online anymore, and I refuse to get close to anyone online either. Hell, I even left Discord for the most part because I've seen friends of mine (who have been diagnosed) be accused of faking all kinds of disorders.
That sub is made for gatekeeping and bullying people for the silliest reasons. I've never ended up there, and I'm glad; I've seen some hardcore harassment happen because people ended up on that sub and the sheeple ate it up. That subreddit both horrifies and offends me.
Sigh. This is why I feel so frustrated when people say they're helping but in fact hurting. The worst thing in life is not meeting a bad person but a hypocrite pretending to be a good. Hypocrites indeed.
There was a person online who claimed autism wasn’t real and when I sent them sources proving them otherwise they started insulting me..
I will never understand how a random person thinks their own opinion is right and valid over decades of research by psychologists doctors psychiatrists.
@@QwertyS3 ikr?!
Just so you know, if you present someone with proper arguments and proof against their claims and they immediately resort to personal insults, that my friend is a tell-tale sign that they feel threatened because they are not competent enough to provide you with proof and facts themselves because they know deep down that they do not, in fact, have any proper arguments or proof.
These people peaked as the mean girl in high school
*middle school
High school bullies now look dumb because the other kids now have things to do.
They're merciless towards plural people too. Ive got a horrible feeling some of my Reddit posts have ended up on this subreddit. But I dont look at them because I value my sanity.
Plural people? Is that the same as nonbinary? Does It mean you use they/them pronouns?
@@facthunt2facthunt245pretty sure in this context it's people with Dissociative Identity Disorder/ DID, which used to be called Multiple Personality Disorder.
Speaking of struggling to wake up, I'm fully in that condition right now. I've fallen back to sleep twice already since I put this video on xP
😂
So here's my question.
They are hating on people who may be actually diagnosed and are talking about their experiences and are being called fakers.
Do they believe that anyone who speaks about their experiences are faking for attention, and therefore are overshadowing the """"real people who struggle""""" or do they not believe that autism exists and that no one actually ever has autism? Why is it the fact of trying to relate to similar experiences the thing that makes it "fake" disorder?
Can anyone talk about any invisible disability or are they presumed faking until proven real? Does any disability exist? Can anyone talk about anything ever without being shamed for seeking attention?
Can humans recieve attention without it being a bad thing? Is being a human seeking connection toxic????? (/s on this part)
The answer is that these people on the subreddit actually want attention and an “in-group” and they’re jealous that autistic people seemingly have one without “much effort” (because look at how bad we look, the idea of acting unappealingly and getting an in-group as a result, that is “easy to fool into accepting you” is preposterous and worthy of shame).
So, they create an in-group based around that bitterness, spite and jealousy. It’s like bullying the popular kid, but easier because we’re so unconventional and they don’t have to worry about offending anyone who’s actually ‘cool’.
TLDR, they accuse people of wanting attention because *they* want the attention.
they believe that if you post on tiktok or social media in general, you are faking/lying
@@randomperson22789 Yep. They believe that little male children no older than 7 are the only demographic that can have autism and that said autistic people should no be able to verbally communicate or take care of themselves in any capacity and that all a "real autistic" person can do is groan and whine and groan and scream and suffer but they can't suffer too much, oh no, the real suffering is experienced by the caretakers of said autistic person and really anyone who finds themselves within a 100 mile radius of an autistic person because, well, autistic people are nothing but inconvienient and useless to society but don't worry, they don't wanna euthanize all autistics!! They just wanna fix everything that's wrong with them!!! :D Everything that makes them who they are that is.
This is more or less what they think abt autistic people. And they are always just so BLATANTLY incorrect in almost anything they claim abt ASD or really any other mental disability/illness that it makes me wanna throw my damn devices against the wall for ever daring to show me their abominable so-called "opinions"!!!!
Also that misgendering had to have been deliberate. It takes up a quarter of the screen and nothing could justify being that reckless where you just see something cringy to you and immediately record it and upload it to Reddit before taking a single glance at the lower quarter of the screen.
I don’t care how bad your ADHD is, that’s not something you miss. These are the kinds of people you can’t trust to even drive with that kind of attention span. ADHD doesn’t screw you over THAT hard, this is a behavioral issue at this point.
Either that or like I said, it was deliberate. I can’t see any other possibility.
Also someone calling someone else a “fake nonbinary” cause they were born a female and someone calling them a “fake lesbian” cause of how dress
Usually these people also happen to be some flavor of transmed (or queerphobic in general), so I'm 90% certain the misgendering was deliberate.
@@Generic_emo_usernamethere’s likely a handful on there who don’t accept trans people at all
Also it isn't a binary between Autistic or Faker.
It's possible that they have some other Condition, and just mistook it for Autism.
It's perfectly understandable that when someone realizes they're not the same as everyone else is, for them to go searching for an answer. And most people don't have the adequate training to accurately categorize their symptoms, so it's perfectly possible that someone who doesn't have Autism, but is some other variety of Neurodivergent, to make a mistake and self-diagnose themselves as Autistic, when in reality there's something else going on.
Doctors misdiagnose Patients occasionally, it's not that far fetched that some Patients accidentally misdiagnose themselves. They aren't acting in bad faith, they don't deserve to be bullied. They just made a mistake, and we should still support them.
@@MadeleineKarlsson-pe4jc ? Please make a more coherent statement.
@@lucyla9947 I'm going to try because I have a hard time expressing myself in english but here we go my second atempt to write this thing.Yes we can misdiagnose ourselfs our doctors can also miss things but it also very likely that strangers also have no clue what they are talking about and that is more harmful then anything.
@@MadeleineKarlsson-pe4jc yeah I know strangers don't know enough to diagnose people either
@@MadeleineKarlsson-pe4jc The thing with these people (the people on the subreddit shown in the video) they don't know enough about someone to adequately diagnose them, nor do they know enough to assume Malintent (that is that they are a Faker).
no bullying or targeted harassment but the whole subreddit is just mocking autistic traits........... i believe you.....
5:30 there's something so funny about saying "i'm spitting facts" like ok thanks for letting us know that you agree with yourself very interesting lmao
Genuine thing someone (A THERAPIST WHO WORKS WITH AUTISTIC PEOPLE _SPECIFICALLY,_ ACTUALLY) said to me:
Me: “I’m sorry, I didn’t quite understand what you meant. I’m autistic and I tend to take things very literally,”
Therapist: “Just because you watched a couple TikToks, doesn’t mean you’re autistic. If you actually had a diagnosis, you wouldn’t look/act the way you do. A doctor is the only one who can tell who’s autistic,”
Me: “…I was diagnosed by an autism specialist when I was three, back in 2005. I can show you the printed paper declaring my diagnosis,”
Them: “Well, maybe you were misdiagnosed. Doctors aren’t always right about those things,”
So are doctors the only ones who know when someone is autistic or are they not sure when someone actually is?? Pick one!
Sorry Dr Price, I listened to what you had to say about “telling people you’re autistic makes people treat you better”. It’s not true.
That therapist is an asshole, I hope they get called out by their higher ups. Is there a way to report this?
my bf had a similarly insane experience with a psychiatrist when trying to get some adhd meds 💀💀💀 except she kept it really spicy with some fun transphobia mixed in there and a flippant diagnosis of manic depressive bipolar after get this -ONE FUCKING APPOINTMENT WHERE SHE BARELY LET HIM SPEAK. if it walks like a 🦆, talks like 🦆 💀💀💀💀
It's more common among ADHD, AuDHD, and autistic people to have a chronotype where your body wants to be awake from afternoon into the wee hours of the morning, instead of the culturally expected workday business hours. I was lucky to work a "second shift" job for many years (early afternoon until 10 or 11 at night). When the outside world is quieted down at night, my mind wakes up and focuses best.
(In one of the scientific studies I read about this chronotype, the researchers scored participants on the dimension of "eveningness," which I found linguistically delightful.)
Is that why I can't focus on writing til sundown?
@@NieroshaiTheSable Sounds about right.
If you can design your life to fit your brain and body, definitely go for it. ♥️
This! A lot of ADHDers and Autistic people have some kind of circadian-rythmn dysfunction, i for one have non-24-hour-sleep-wake-syndrome (which basically means my sleeping rythmn is 26 hours instead of 24 hours which makes it always cycle around the clock and i'm unable to change that) as well as delayed sleep wake phase disorder (which means that i naturally fall asleep much later that most people) These disorders are proportionally way more common in neurodivergent folks than in non-ND people. They can't be "healed" and one has to learn to somehow manage them themselves. What i do is i sleep directly after school until midnight, stay awake for two hours to do homework and some other stuff and then sleep again until school. I still struggle tho. I always struggled with this for my whole life. I don't have time left to do much more than trying to get the sleep i didn't get but i still end up tired, a couple other issues i have tend to play into that as well.
TLDR: But yeah, basically what i wanted to say was: sleep disorders = disproportionally more common in ND people and not cureable
yuck ass subreddit i think fakers are significantly less of a problem than they think (and moreover i don't think bullying any fakers that do exist will get them to stop?)
That last point is key.
I don't think I've ever come across a situation where bullying seemed like a reasonable answer. There are so many ways to solve problems, and bullying isn't one.
Isn’t it usually the case that a person proudly faking their disorder or neurodivergence wants to be discovered because they want attention or what attention brings? Talking about them en masse is what they want. So no, that subreddit is not legitimate in any sense, and actively worsens every possible case.
This is one of the things that makes me terrified of actually meeting other autistic people. My psychologist tells me I should give it a try due to loneliness and a wish to just unmask but yeah, utterly terrified.
Edit: Your earrings are absolutely awesome 😮
Yeah, me too. Thanks for your post
The thing is, it might be easier to relate and communicate with other autistic people. Sometimes autistic people gravitate towards each other without realizing it. Before I got my official diagnosis, everyone in my friends group was autistic. That, in fact, was one of the signs I had to take into consideration.
I am going to try it, I want to see for myself if it’s easier. I wish and pray for it to be true because otherwise I will spend the rest of my life playing “pretend to be human” while actually being from another planet.
Idk, I guess I’m rambling on TH-cam cause I feel desperate 😅
Thanks for the comments, both of you!
@@IsidorTheNordicGuy you don’t have to worry. I think 20% of the population is autistic, so you already know some!
@@edwardlulofs444 I hope I do 😆 Must be masking for dear life just like me then.
So scared of ending up on there.... Past couple years my physical and mental health have dive bombed...went from masking highly... To sounding like a child or forest gump when i talk out loud....
Had a " The Good Doctor" moment of my own at a dr. Office when i couldnt get the words i wanted out the way i wanted😢 " im still in here .. I was intelligent.... I'm still intelligent... I'm still in here.... I'm Still In Here..." With louder and more frustrated emphasis until Hubby hugged me and i just 😭
It was soooo embarrassing and frustrating... And It was because the Dr. Wasn't listening ( which wasn't an assumption...Hubby had to get her to change her notes in my MyChart, cause they were completely off.....
"Said i was 220Lbs" when I was weighed in at 144 that very day ...
I had said i was most comfortable in my body at 220...
" Said i was diagnosed with Snow Vision Syndrome"...
hubby/ I had said we were looking into it as a plausible reason for the static overlay in my vision ,I've had my whole life...and is getting worse
We were there to get a referral for a neurologist so we can rule out any "physical brain medicine aligned diagnosis' " with our currently worsening mental health symptoms 😢
My heart goes out to you. Breakdowns are so, so painful, both during and after, it's traumatic to have your brain betray you.
@@lightningninja6905 thanks so much... My hubby is wonderful...but it's nice to hear from someone who doesn't know me 😅🥲😅 ya know
Yikes, that made me remember my own pretty similar experience when I saw a psychiatrist for a referral to an ASD specialist and she just wasn’t listening to me. Essentially said that she felt I was suffering from social anxiety, not autistic, and refused to give me a referral. So, I had to spend a lot of money to go to a non-governmental clinic for my diagnosis instead.
On the upside, she accepted that she was wrong after I got my ASD diagnosis and showed it to her before I dropped her to change to another doctor, she didn’t even apologise for invalidating me, saying that I was “crying because I’m not getting what I want” or costing me thousands of dollars, and excused herself saying my “autism is so mild that only an ASD specialist would recognise it”. I’m like, you could try *listening to your patients* and taking them seriously when they present you with their experience and medical history.
Like, it was so easy for the ASD specialist, she looked at all the medical tests, I’d seen a neurologist before, physiotherapist, gastrointestinal specialist, and my mom and partner were able to give comprehensive accounts of my behaviour. She said I was one of the easiest to diagnose as autistic because I had such solid evidence and consistent accounts.
The rude psychiatrist didn’t even listen to my mom when she talked about how I didn’t grow for 3 months as a baby or my childhood behaviour. My mom was probably more angry at the doctor than I was honestly haha
Some people are just awful, so don’t feel bad about the breakdown, I hope things go well for you and even if we end up there for some reason, we just gotta keep reminding ourselves that these peoples’ opinions don’t matter because they don’t know jack squat.
Oh my geezers, what is wrong with them, how hard is it to realize that everybody presents differently. They have NO braincells!!! It just makes me so~ mad.
TBH, I kind of feel like there should be a Fake Disorder Cringe Cringe subreddit if there isn't already one.
Bro they just keep on talking about those people's LOOKSSSSSSS
It's actually so crazy that they KNOW that there's nothing to be picked on from these videos so they just make up things at this point
2:17 not a small red flag. The fact they're calling this person a girl as well as calling them self diagnosed together is just them showing they think they decide what is and isn't true about this person.
UNLESS this person is a nonbinary identity that includes being a girl/they refer to themselves as a girl bc they're fem leaning or something- UNLESS THAT IS THE CASE:
this person is going "UM NO, you're NOT nonbinary you're just a girl. You're NOT autistic you're just a bit different lile everyone else" or something.
This person doesn't respect anything at all.
To be fair, there is no physical difference between a nonbinary AFAB person and a woman. So is nonbinary real? It just means being a woman who doesn't relate to the feminine stereotype. That's fine, many of us don't but if we bleed every month then we're a woman whether we like it or not.
19:27 “I have ASD”
“Oh really, me too!”
“No, not what you have”
“Autism Spectrum Disorder?”
“No, I have Autism Symptoms Disorder”
“Umm…”
ASD stands for Anti-Social Disorder….
3:43 I made a post on r/autism suggesting that there could be a culture surrounding autism. Not only did everyone get mad, but my post was taken down despite it not breaking the rules. Like one of the mods literally threatened to ban me💀
I just feel like everyone who enjoys this reddit needs to be shown that Michael Jordan "Stop it, get some help" meme on repeat until they actually do....get some help. The amount of projection is STAGGERING.
The miserable trolls of that subreddit also hate seeing people happier than them, let alone *people with disabilities* who are happier than them.
I was once told that I was mocking autistic people because I talk to, carry around, and have a relationship with a cardboard cutout of a character. I see inanimate objects as living and may have connection with objectum people.
They said something about how I was falling into the "I identify as an attack helicopter" people. Like, dude, my whole life I've carried around movie cases, pictures, toys, etc., and talked to them. Like idk what to say.
The thing is, the people that say "i indentify as an attack helicopter" are the people trying to mock queer people... but the difference is that they aren't serious about that, they say that with the intent of making fun of people that are serious about their gender (which doesn't tend to be "attack helicopter")... You can't be mocking by doing something seriously (like interacting with an object as a person without the intent of doing it to mock people that do that as well). Being seen as strange isn't the same as trying to mock others that are also seen as strange.
About the sleep problems and autism/ADHD thing. I recently started taking melatonin after struggling with sleep issues my entire life, my therapist suggested i start taking it after she read that autistic people often have low melatonin levels.
After only 6 days of supplementing I've noticed a huge improvement :) I still have trouble getting up but I noticed that I don't need as much time to 'boot up' as I used to and I don't feel daytime sleepiness as much anymore.
That one video you showed got to me. ‘Sensory issues are not something you’d ever wish to have’ like no shite Karen and Kevin. I don’t want them. But I have them regardless of what I want so let me post online like every other human being does to share and talk about the issues and sometimes the occasional cool thing being autistic brings. There are many people who have more severe support needs than me, you are correct about that. But you know the societal changes and accommodations many of us are advocating for will help those with higher support needs as well right?! Because I don’t think you get that. If you did you would be happy for your child that others who share a neurotype to him are advocating for people like them and like him. People with lower support needs and who are getting on and talking about these things FINALLY in the general population are the ones making autism more well known and those ‘quirky’ people you hate are making autism less of a mystery to others and more of a reality. That is a good thing.
Sorry. I’ll hop off my soap box now. It’s not like these people will ever see this.
I ... used to walk on my toes, before people, including my parents, grandparents and doctors got me to not.
And I am autistic, have been my whole life.
I'm sorry 😔
I, or should I say we, had no idea it was an autism thing, it was just a thing wrong with me in their eyes.
The amount of apparently diagnosed autistic people on there shitting on self identified folks its absolutely disgusting!
mental health is invisible and even a professional would hesitate to diagnose someone they haven't met so i feel randomers on the Internet should not be playing judge dury and executioner. Although I am certain some do lie about it for clout i feel like they are the minority
The girl who has trouble getting up in the morning has the cutest accent. Is that Welsh?
Yes! I love it too!
Yes she is from South Wales
Not my dad literally earlier today saying "back in my day, there was no such thing as Autism" 😭😂
It was around, but it wasn't diagnosed
@@skootergirl22 fr
I just watched a video earlier, the channel is called dannyphantom.exe and he literally just posted a video about that if you want to watch it lol
FakeDisorderCringe is some of the most actual cringe you’ll ever find. That part isn’t fake at least.
Actually the entire name is accurate. It is people being cringe around people “faking disorders”. It’s exactly as they outlined with their words :p
Everything is considered cringe now. It's overused.
24:34 "remarkably normal", that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one lol.
As someone bullied into appearing normal, wishing I could be at least 5% myself around other people, yet deeply afraid of social rejection if I dare, it hurts to hear someone having this as a great acheivement. No judging if that's what they really want for themselves, but man it hurts.
25:05 this right here makes me think of the quote "i should not have to perform my rock bottom to be believed". it was said specifically about someone recovering from ocd, but applies to SO many conditions and disorders and life circumstances in general
I really really want to thank you for what you and your channel have done for the Autistic community and for my growth as a person. I'm someone who was diagnosed very young (i know now that that's unusual, and I was very lucky to start seeing a great mental health team as basically a toddler) so I've lived over 20 years, most of my life, knowing or at least having some concept that I'm Autistic. For so many years in my small town, I didn't think there were other Autistic people around me. None of my peers were talking about being diagnosed and I was regularly given either the "what's that?" response when I told people, or just ignorant misunderstandings they got from Autism Speaks. I think growing up this way really lead me to unintentionally build walls up with the Autistic community I could have now. I've never been a member of "fake disorder cringe" thank god, but I have held similar beliefs about "self-diagnosed" autistic people or even people diagnosed as adults. I kept thinking things like, "i'm so tired of everyone taking my lived experience that has been at times traumatic, and turning it into a trend. these people must be faking because it's 'cool' to be autistic now". But through a lot of your videos i've come to understand how wrong I was for thinking that way. You've pretty much opened my eyes to the drastic underrepresentation of women in autism diagnoses which could lead to them discovering their autism later in life, and so many other things that make me cringe at how I thought a year ago. Anyway, this comment is long af but yeah, thank you.
I’m autistic and I wake up every day by 3am, usually at 2am. I do that to avoid noise and traffic and crowds.
But some people just want to believe what they want.
Who are these people? Honestly. The place should be renamed to r/ignorant_inexperienced_unexposed_being_judgy
Once I checked out this subreddit, one of the top posts was a picture of text and the hand flapping stimming emoji you see everywhere. And it had text saying “no thoughts, only happy hand flaps. Flappy flappy flappy. Happy flapping” etc. and EVERYONE zeroed in on the clear joke of “no thoughts, only happy hand flaps” and portrayed it as the poster thinking autistic people are stupid. When it’s a very common meme phrase 😭 it tells me that they aren’t coming from a good mindset or what to protect the disordered community. They’re just nitpicking everything they see and call it fake or offensive, even if it’s not.
nah as someone who has been diagnosed as autistic for 3 years, the not getting up until you have to pee is so real
If I didn't value my faith in good in humanity Id go ask people on this subreddit how a person's appearance could possibly let you know how their brain works every day and therefore un-diagnose them. Bc literally why do people think an afab person using makeup can't be autistic??? Autism doesn't make everyone completely unable to do that
They just posted about your video on the subreddit. I don't know if they like you there. I on the other hand am glad you are calling them out. You have been very helpful to me on my autistic journey and hope to contribute to your patreon in the near future as thanks.
Yesterday I was helping my friends at an event in a wax museum. Even during setup it was very noisy and there was just so much going on that I froze in place staring off into the distance. One of the sound guys got my attention and said, “I was starting to think you were a wax figure! I kept looking over and you hadn’t moved at all.” The position I got stuck in wasn’t even neutral, it looked like I was reaching out to grab something 😅
So yeah, that dissociating in public places thing is super relatable
God I do that so much too 😂
Once had a random guy try to call an ambulance on me cause my voice had frozen up 😂
About heritability when I suspected I'm autistic (in a ripe age of 29) I remembered that my cousin was the most stereotypical autistic boy. He knew flags of all countries when he was 5 and drunk carrot juice till his back got orange and doctor told him to stop. And you know what my grandpa often did after a stressful day? Casually took radio apart and put it back together. And I'M the weirdo of this family?! 😂
you might want to change the spelling of "ripe"..
@@thekingofdirt hahaha thank you. Dyslexia and autocorrect got me there 🤣
In my opinion people who are very insecure in themselves crave this judgemental kind of content. It's never a reflection of the people they're "calling out", but how they see themselves and externalizing their insecurities. Perhaps some of these people are autistic or adhd themselves and have the guilt and shame associated with being undiagnosed
12:48 to them there is no such thing as a real autistic person, if an autistic person exists on the internet they are faking it.
Are you serious or joking because this is that is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
@@LiterallyInklingGirl I they are serious and maybe slightly exaggerating. But they are not wrong. Countelsss of the people who end up on this subreddit have been diagnosed by medical professionals something which probably NONE of these people mocking them and dismissing them as "self-diagnosed fakers" genuinely tried to find out.
"I'm spitting facts" - "You're spitting _something_ " I'm LMAO
IDK if you're lgbtqia+ or genderqueer yourself, but nonetheless I really appreciate you calling this stuff out. It often goes unmentioned, so I really appreciate that we enbies don't have to _nag_ about it ourselves in the comment section (and also go ignored, safe for some ragebaiting respones here and there). Keep up the good work!
Omg Invader Zim profile :D
@@LiterallyInklingGirl Oh wow, our pfps match so well! xD crazy
not to mention that if they have to SAY they're spitting facts, they most certainly are not spitting facts
I used to watch cringe compilations when I was young, around middle school age. And I distinctly remember the point where I went to watch one of those videos and it was just… so distasteful. I found myself relating to the people (often minors) in the videos or feeling sympathy for them more than laughing at them. I think that was a big turning point for me realizing that a lot of what is labeled “cringe” is just an excuse to bully people who are different
Meg!! :D Just so you know, if you want to have fun coloured hair, you can increase longevity by not using hair products with sulfates and adding a bit of the chosen hair dye into your conditioner. Leave the conditioner in your hair for a little bit longer than usual, maybe 5 mins. You can do longer if you really want to re-up the colour. :) It helps keep a more pastel colour present after initial fading. :)❤
14:43 I have been saying this!! I think that, perhaps in the next DSM, they may consider either combining the diagnoses, or at the VERY least making note of their high comorbidity rates and common traits, such as special interests, difficulty shifting focus, emotional dysregulation, etc. Afaik, the DSM-V doesn't even mention them as related conditions, which is absurd because they clearly are. (I am AuDHD, for the record.)
Places like that definitely do not help with my (already really strong) Imposter Syndrome.
Idk if this will help any, but I think an important shift in mindset for anyone to have is going from valuing all perspectives, to realizing some perspectives are so baseless they might actually be more harm than good. I believe we all (as humans) have things we we can add to certain conversations, but no one can add something of value to every conversation. I hope this helps.
Also, as someone that also named themselves when they were a big fan of anime (Naruto in my case) I love your username
Subreddits like these are a big big big part of the reason I barely leave comments anywhere .. my anxiety is too high and I don't wanna end up on the wrong platform and totally picked apart and totally out of context .. :(
@3:00 - oh, I've got a finger just for you, fjms50.
Someone made a whole video about my friend with DID, PROFESSIONALLY DIAGNOSED DID 💀
the subreddit that both scares me from and is also partially why i am publicly a system online
0:12 r/DID and do not have "self diagnosed, questioning", flairs it has "Treatment: unassessed" which is specifically for those who are in mh treatment but have not received a dx yet, but as things are going you know its kinda probably a dissocative disorder .. (yes im on the sub that much to recognize this immediately, i have a problem)
One of my videos was put on fake disorder cringe. I went on the discord and messaged the admin.
And they took it off the reddit because it was against the rules to post it without bluring faces..? It was weird.
Wild Deodorant has a ghost case? I love cartoony ghosties, they're so cute!
Same! It's soo cute! Their limited cases this year have been so lovely!
13:18 my psychiatrist told me that a lot of patients actually don't separate their traits for each. I myself think of it as "neurodivergency soup"
"Nah man, i just got symptoms disorder" ☠️🤣☠️🤣☠️🤣
Thank you so much for speaking out against this absolutely disgusting subreddit.
The irony of "no bullying or harrassment" in a subreddit aimed at bullying and harrassing people while deciding whether or not someone else has a mental illness. 🤔
Where are your credentials in undiagnosing other people you do not know? 🧐
*That part with the sleeper waking up - me. every. morning. 😂
you can fall in thos subreddit so easily, some years ago i watched some fake disorder video where people just make tiktok compilation and sometimes writes things or put memes to make fun of thos people
i was SURE they were really faking, and one day i watched a youtuber who i know have DID, react to videos likes the ones that was on the fake disorders
turn out a lot of things i thought was exaggerate, was actually real symptoms/real things people do
so yeah your videos are really useful, thanks for doing them (and they are very entertaining) :)
This subreddit made me want to commit the...thing you can't come back from. I was posted there long time ago, and when someone pointed it out to me it made me give up vlogging and posting on social media altogether (except art for my portfolio). I was also diagnosed with AuDHD during adulthood (3 years ago), and the diagnosis kind of lifted a heavy burden off my shoulders, as I didn't quite know much about autism or ADHD and I really thought I was a rude person before, though I never intended to be.
Is it pkay if I ask about how to get an evaluation/how you got yours? I've been thinking for a while that I might be autistic and/or adhd but I want a confirmation one way or another and I don't really know where to start, it seems like the only places that do evals only diagnose children.