Booster Plug Install & Review - Curing the flat spot on your Triumph
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ม.ค. 2022
- After removing the catalytic converter, The Street Twin still suffered from a low speed flat spot. In this episode I fit the Booster Plug to see if it sorts out this issue. I show you how to install the booster plug and we take the bike for a ride to see how it performs.
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Good review, I installed it on my T120 and found minimal issue with fuel consumption but a big improvment on low speed throttle response. A good upgrade to get.
Hi Alan, many thanks for sharing your experience of installing the booster plug, i think i really helps people get a balanced view of the product. Thanks for the kind words too, very much appreciated. Safe riding and happy adventures :)
Fantastic, been researching more mods! Cheers Toni ✨
Brill Ryan, glad this helped. Keep me updated on the bikes progress! :)
Cracking review. Straight to the point and honest.
Thank you chip. I really appreciate that. Thank you 😊 👍
Thanks for the share Toni, nice looking ST 👍
Thank you joao for your kind words 👍😊
I currently have a stock Street Twin. I enjoy these vids. Keep it up Toni! =)
Thank you aaron. I may do a video soon if all the mods I’ve carried out on my bike. The great thing about the triumphs is how easy they are to modify. And if you don’t like something it’s quiet easy to put back. Thanks for the kind words Aaron very much appreciated. 😊👍
Great video simple and precise thks Toni.
Thanks Stephen. Glad you found this helpful. Many thanks for your kind words of support 👍☺️
Very cool think that will be money well spent for how much you enjoy that over time.
Great review and great video as always 😀
Thanks so much Sam I really appreciate the kind words. And yes you are right it’s money well spent if it makes you smile just that little bit more 😊👍
Great stuff Toni, keep up the great work 👌
Thanks Scott 👍
Agreed!
I enjoy the over run popping!
Yes I don’t mind it to be fair.
Thanks for the explanation. I find the throttle snatchy on my 2018 T100 at low speeds and have just ordered a booster plug so hopefully that'll sort it.
Hi. Glad you found this helpful. What I noticed is over time a little snatchyness can come back, but if you disconnect the battery and re do it it smoothes out again. Let me know what you find when fitting 👍
Fitted it today. Haven't gone for a ride yet but the tick over is smoother after warming up
Hi Toni I watched your vid and installed my booster about 1 week ago and It really smoothed out the low speed. I've been riding Harleys for the last 45 years and decided to by a t100 for my older years and I love it !!
Hi Carter. So glad the video was helpful. Yes I agree it smoothed out my low rpm manoeuvres I found too. Great choice of bike 😊👍 glad your enjoying yourself, stay safe 😊
Well done!☕️
Thanks for the support 👍
Rejoice! You have finally made it to 1000 well deserved subs Toni. The celebrations are well under way up here in Scotland, champagne,
... fireworks, dancing in the street.🎉🎉🎉🎊🎈 None of that is happening so I'm celebrating in my own small way with Tunnocks tea cakes and Irn Bru. But honestly it's great to see your empire gradually expanding, you're like a sort of Cockney Vladimir Putin, albeit without his warmth and charm.
Why is this comment in two parts?🤔
Thank you 😊. Getting there
@@ToniReviews In all honesty you deserve many more. I'd rather watch your vids than that creep TMF. Do you know that I told him he was an idiot for paying £900 for a jacket and I got a very abrupt reply☹️
Great video Toni I just had the x.pipe put on my speed twin left standard pipes on as a triumph mechanic told me the x.pipe is all I need to do to it he said you don't need a booster plug. and I did put the throttle spacers in as well which make a difference stay safe 🇬🇧👍
Thanks for sharing Richard. I have the xpipe, a k&n filetr and after market cans but I still had the flat spot. Interesting to hear about the throttle spacers… did you have a lag or snatch throttle before the spacers and the xpipe? Or did you simply install the xpipe for the sound etc? I would be interested to hear. Thanks 😊
Thanks for the review, I've just ordered one for my 2017 Bobber which I bought last November. My bike is horribly jerky at low speed so if it sorts that I'll be well happy. Subbed and liked!
Hi Rich. Hopefully the Booster plug helps sort the issue. Its certainly smoothed things out for me. I also notice a nicely adjusted chain really helps. I usually do it weekly, but if i leave it longer than a week the jerkiness definately increases. Let me know how you get on! Id be interested to hear. I recently read that the ecu can learn its being fooled by the boosetr plug and so you need to disconect the battery to reset the ecu and fool it all over again. Hope this isnt the case... fingers crossed. Anyway let me know how you get on :)
@@ToniReviews do you still disconnect the battery to fool the ECU with the booster plug?
My goodness, the ease of plugging it in on your bike versus my Ducati Multistrada (which I'm considering trying this on with a new cat delete exhaust) is astonishing. I need to take the entire bike apart to access my plug! Ohh well, thanks for the great video!
Blimey Steve what a nightmare… yes this was so simple so accessible it literally took seconds. The video took longer. Good luck 🤞
Thanks Toni, looking at getting one for my 2011 Thruxton, as I want it to feel more like a carbed bike.
Hi Robert sounds like a good plan. I have read however the ecu can become accustomed to being fooled and eventually override the plug. However I have also ready disconnecting the battery can restart the plug and ecu . Let me know how you get on👍
I added one to my Bobber. It makes the low speed throttle much smoother. It’s all down to modern emission regulations making the mix very lean.
Hi. That’s very good to hear. Some mixed opinions on here so good to see someone has fitted the plug and noticed the difference. One of my subscribers mentioned he had a bobber and was looking to fit a plug to his, so he’ll be happy with the results. Thanks for sharing 😊👍
I really fancy one for my t100. I did an air injection delete to get rid of the popping as it was ridiculous but now I get the odd one which is nice.
Thank you for sharing that. The comments sections are always an interesting read for people wanting a wider overview! Thanks
Fitted a booster plug to my 2018 triumph Bonneville t100 and it help to smooth out the jerkiness.( about 30%) clutching off at junctions and mini roundabouts great bit of kit in my opinion and cheap as you don't have to visit your local triumph franchise to get ripped off for fitting charges... mpg is normally around 76-79 but the best is 83mpg riding at car speed. did not notice any top end speed improvement. keep up the good work Toni
Hi Alan. many thanks fior sharing. Your fuel guidlines are also more accurate than mine... I always go by how much I get to £10, which is never an accurate reading as fuel prices go up all the fliping time, so thanks for clarifying that im sure people wil find this helpful :)
Great review, I went ahead and ordered one for my 2018 Street Twin. I have a decat pipe, V&H mufflers, and a different air filter, so this should get the fuel/air mixture where it needs to be at low rpms. Making it smoother throughout the entire rpm range is a bonus as well. Looks fairly quick and simple to install. I removed the snorkel from my airbox, so I'll just place the sensor inside the hole in the side of the airbox.
Hi bronzestarvue. So glad you found this helpful. You sound like you have the same setup as myself , although my mufflers are tec. I would say I noticed the change immediately but after a little while the low rpm chug came back. It’s almost like it needs to be reset by disconnecting the battery each time. It’s like the ecu learns it’s being fooled. Let me know what you think and what you find! Thanks for sharing
@@ToniReviews Will do, I like the simplicity of it being plug and play, pretty much anyone can do it without special tools. I had a shop install the decat pipe, and based on what I read on some FB groups and forums, asked them to run the bike until the cooling fan came on to allow the ECU to "learn". It seems to have worked, because the bike doesn't feel like it's running poorly with the combination of decat and mufflers. I'm hoping this booster plug will put the finishing touches on helping the ECU make the bike run like it's supposed to, not like how it came from the factory to meet emissions standards. Keep up the good work!
I fitted a Booster Plug to my Speed Twin and can't say that I have noticed much difference. Also have the free-flow air filter but haven't fitted the X-pipe yet so will reserve judgement for the time being! Thanks for the review.
Hi Mik many thanks for your comments. I agree the changes are only small, but I did notice an immediate difference- however I did read the ecu can become accustomed to the plug and override it, and that disconnecting the battery to reset the ecu again is needed. I’d be interested to see if this happens and if I need to do this. If you have done this already or plan to try it please do let me know 👍
@@ToniReviews I did the ecu reset by running the bike on tickover for 15 minutes but haven't disconnected the battery. Will give this a go!
Fitted one to my Bonneville 865 and does everything it says on the box. It didn’t like a K&N air filter, so changed that back to stock.
Thanks for sharing. Always helpful to get as many user stories as possible 👍
Awesome!!!⚡️⚡️⚡️
Thank you Kim 👍😊⚡️
Great review Toni, cheers pal
Thanks Andy 👍
I just put one on a 2018 Z900RS, and it’s doing exactly what they said it would do. The thing I like most about it, other than the obvious improvements in performance, is it’s easily reversible, just take it off.
I agree. I like it’s not a permanent thing. If you want to remove it you simply unplug it. Totally agree, thanks for sharing 👍
Have one in mind for my 2012 America. As for popping, i cured mine by removing the AI. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for sharing. 👍😊
I didn't notice to much difference when I installed mine to a vt85 guzzi..It did remove the flat spot though....BUT when I removed it for servicing reasons it was hugely noticeable ! Massive difference, so thumbs up from me
Hi Marc. Many thanks for sharing. Yes I agree with what you say in not much noticeable performance differences other than flat spot (although mine has returned very slightly). When you say you removed it for servicing reasons and noticed a massive difference what exactly happened ? I’m intrigued to know more. Thanks 😊
@@ToniReviews bike was new and under warranty so the shop had to service it , thought I'd best remove the booster plug to avoid any questions,had the plug for a good few months so got to know the bike a fair bit ,when I removed it it just seemed sluggish under powered flat spot was back , noticed the difference straight away ,soon as service was done booster was back in 👌
I’ve just subscribed 👍Thanks for the video I’ve just ordered one from TEC I too have a 2016 Street Twin with AX41 knobbly tyres and Matt black etc👍
Will be interesting to see how I get on with it
Hi robin. Thanks for the support and the subscription 👍 I hope the booster plug is a noticeable difference for you . Let me know how you get on… as you can see the install is simple on the street twin 😊
You made it look simple…I will def give it a go though
Will keep u posted 👍😄
Just found your reviews, very helpful for the speed twin I've just ordered.
Not sure there will be much cold air here in Queensland Australia but I'm going to fit it anyway and see what difference it makes in hot humid air masses.
I really like your reviews and I'm looking forward to watching more Triumph content.... cheers J
Hi Jeremy. Wow Queensland…. I really love hearing all the wonderful places that these videos reach. I’d be very interested to hear how the booster plug performs in your climate, seeing as it works off fooling the ecu by registering a cooler running temp, so please do let me know how you get on. Thanks for the kind words and thank you for sharing 👍😊
I'll be sure to let you know how it goes@@ToniReviews 🙂
@@jeremybyth7991 looking forward to your ‘Jeremy reviews’ segment 😊👍
@jeremy b any updates?
@Min I've been told it's not needed here in Queensland and I haven't felt the engine struggle in any way, so I might not do it just yet.
Hey! Great video! I'm from Brazil and here the gasoline has 25% ethanol and the tuning of the engines is already rich in fuel to compensate in power. I'm buying a 2016 Bonneville T120 and I'm going to pay attention if these problems happen too. The bike is original with 11,000 km on the odometer. Soon I'll put the x-pipe with original exhaust, sports air filter and better spark plugs.
Hi Fabio. Wow Brazil I always love hearing where people are from and watching these videos. Thanks for the kind words and for sharing details about your bike. When you make the changes I would make 1 at a time just so you can gauge which ones make a difference to the feel of the bike and which you like and those you’re maybe not so keen on. The mods sound great, pretty much the same mods as me. Bike sounds great 👍
Excellent review. I ride a 2021 Speedmaster and a 2022 RE Interceptor. I just ordered one of these for each of them to see if it will help with the lag. On the speedmaster I have installed an x-pipe and slip-on's from British Customs along with DNA filters so I'm hopping to notice the flat spot lessening or disappearing. On the interceptor I have and S&S 2-1 exhaust and a DNA filter. I'm not looking for much on it, just a bit more throttle response off the line and out of corners.
Hi Kieth many thanks for taking the time to watch and for leaving your positive and informative comments. Lovely bikes you have there too. Out of interest do booster plug make plugs for hte later bikes? I had a comment on here recently with someone enquiring about fitting a plug to his bike which was a later model than mine, so I did a little digging and found the plug wasn’t compatible (as he also found) with his engine (sorry can’t remember the year of the bike but I think it was a later version of the street twin or scrambler) but it was a euro 5 engine. Any help you have for viewers would be great. Thanks
@@ToniReviews I'm in Texas so I'm not sure that My bikes have the same restrictions that yours do? So far I have not had any issues fitting aftermarket stuff for the 18+-20 LC Speedmasters or the Royal Enfield Interceptor. Its hard to find anything 2021 and up parts-wise for either of these, so I've been ordering 18-20 parts with no issues. That might not be the case with the street twins or scramblers though.
Big ups for the mario kart reference
👍😂. I knew someone would get it 😂
Thanks for the Review, I have a Royal Enfield 650, I'm just researching the booster plug, as you know many different opinions on this subject but seems they are a good thing, I'm going to search now to see if you have done a follow up vid of the gas millage, millage is not that important but would be interesting to know, again thank you.
Hi Karl, no i havent yet done a follow up video. manily because my findings will be subjective and not very scientific. It will be difficult for me to see if fuel consumption changes, especially with the fluctuating and increasing fuel prices. On a personal level I would say the bike seems to be less fuel economic after installing the x pipe and the K&N filter, im not sure how much of a difference the booster plug also makes to the mix? Also I have noticed the snatchy throttle coming back again, which I have had to reset the battery to trick the booster plug and ECU again. Hope this helps
Just bought a used T120, 2016 model with 3k miles. It has K and N, Vance and Hines pipe, decat and booster plug. I test rode 2 brand new T120 and this, without doubt, rides better than they did. TBH I nearly didn't buy one as the dealer test rides were quite disappointing. I've had many Aprilia V twins in the past and know what jerky throttle response is like, but the T120 is so smooth. As for MPG, I did a 160 mile ride yesterday on a variety of roads and it returned 69.7mpg average. Insane, that's over twice what I used to get out my other bikes. Maybe I'll unplug the booster and see what it's like without.
The T120 sounds awesome! Thanks for sharing the mpg info that’s very helpful. A lot of people ask about economy after install so this is very helpful thank you 😊
Nice
Thanks @timrush8407👍
Thanks Toni. Nice, honest review. I like the plug-and-play nature of that little unit. I suspect some of the newer bikes might not be able to use this sadly. I hear the EU is really cracking down on things.
Side note: While I dig an exhaust that gives some pops every now and again on decel, if it happens too much and is driving you crazy, here is a possible semi-fix. Sometimes the popping is an indication that there is a little bit of cool air sneaking into your exhaust system from one of the connection joints. A little bit of black soot on a joint can be an indication of where air might be sneaking in. When the bike is cool, just check all the connections and hand tighten everything down again (don't strong arm it). Sometimes things vibrate a little loose after the first install. It's not a cure all, but if there is a little pin leak, it should calm things down a little.
Hi John. Yes your absolutely right, these booster plugs will not work with the newer tamper proof ecu ‘s . Thanks for the tip on the exhaust pop… great little tip, and I’m sure it will help a few people out reading this too… thanks so much for sharing!
I had a booster plug on my T120. It did make a difference. However I later remapped my bike with a tune from DNK tuneworks. Honestly there is no comparison. Re-Mapping the bike is a night and day difference.
Hi. Many thanks for sharing. Personally I noticed the flat spot gone immediately, however it did seem to return, and the only way to get the plug to work again was to disconnect the battery and reset. I would imagine the remapping does make a huge difference. Thanks for sharing 👍
@@ToniReviews Cheers
I was thinking of remap , got a high milage 53k Thruxton runs well , pulls like train so don't need any more power ! but its just that coming off idle , you nothing then to much and the idles bit erratic (sometimes stalls) . Did you remap it yourself ? I have got ECU tune but no idea what maps to use , ECU reports map on bike is obsolete its dated July 2016 when bike was purchased new
@@nounoufriend1442 I remapped my T120 myself using TuneEcu. The map was purchased from DNK tuneworks and the process to upload took about 1 minute. A noticeable improvement over the stock map. I have no doubt that you will have the same good results. The stock map is optimized to meet emissions regulations and is not that great in terms of rideability, especially at lower to midrange speeds and RPM.
@@greysea4841 will it pass MOT emissions test?
Maybe I’ll get one.
It’s made a small but noticeable difference 👍
Hiya Toni. Great informative video. Just ordered a booster plug. My street cup is running de-cat, k&n filter, Mtonone Bedlam slash cut exhaust, I have taken off the dumb restrictive snorkle air intake, ( why would they fit that, take it off just pulls out! ) . Hace you fitted the throttle lag reduction kit inside the throttle housing? Massuvel reduces low speed lag!
Hi Simon. No I haven’t fitted the throttle lag kit…I think I’ve just instinctively got to the point where I know where the roll on point is on the bike, so I can’t say I notice it much. Yes my bike is also running defat, k&n (although I can’t say I felt much of a difference with that) plus some aftermarket tec exhausts… I love the sound of those slash cut exhaust! I’ll have to check those out. Let me know how you get one.
Great review ordered my boost plug today 👍🏻 question what make are your bar end mirrors?
Hi Michael glad you found this helpful…. The mirrors are just £10 universal mirrors from eBay. I removed the end and clamped them on. Wasn’t keen on drilling the bars out so this is a simple solution
picked up by new to me 2016 T120 last weekend saturday [great weather ] straight away i noticed this jerky pick up so this is next
Hi Richard… glad you found this helpful and congratulations on the new bike. Yep the booster plug made a difference, but I have read the issue can return over time. Although I’ve also read disconnecting the battery and reconnecting can sort the issue… will have to keep my eye on this and see how it fairs, but yep I noticed a difference straight away.
I've just ordered one of these for a BMW K1300R. Regarding the "BoosterPlug goes idle when cruising" statement, this is my one beef with their marketing because what they *really* mean is that the bike goes into closed loop mode and the fuel mixture is controlled by the O2 sensor; that being it will try to hit a specific fuel mixture (14.7:1) regardless of air temperature readings. The difference when having the BoosterPlug would just be that the O2 closed loop fuel mixture control pulls out more fuel than it would if there was no BoosterPlug in use.
Hi. Many thanks for sharing this. Having installed it, how do you feel it performs? Has it changed the ride?
@@ToniReviews it's currently in transit from Denmark to Australia, with delivery by this weekend apparently. I'll fit it and test immediately and come back! For reference my bike has an Arrow exhaust and has *huge* pops and bangs on deceleration.
@@ToniReviews it just arrived today and I've fitted it. Have not ridden yet but I did plug in my scanner and the Booster Plug is doing what it says - ambient air temp without the plug read 27C but with the Booster Plug it reads 6C. Oh that will run richer alright. I'll put a video up on my channel and link it here once I've also ridden the bike. Right now I just have video of me futzing around under the airbox. Exciting!
Nice to see you back , left mine stock reason being I think at some point emissions on bikes will be part of the m o t .Unfortunately got dead battery at moment only 3 years old 2000 mi les .
Thanks Micheal 👊👍. I think you might be right with the emissions business. My battery was dead too. During the van build I didn’t get out on the bike much last year and so it was sorn for a while and the battery also went flat…. Mot and back on the road now… hope your doing well and looking forward to get back out on your bike… we’ve had some amazingly lovely weekends for January. 👍😊 thanks for the kind words.
Hey Toni,
nice work on the review and a really cool bike. Which wind shield did you put on the twin?
Hi @quizmaster81 thanks 🙏 well I wish I could help there but I purchased the bike 2nd hand and the windshield was already on the bike so I can’t shed any light on that one unfortunately. I think it could be a genuine triumph one as I know some of the other accessories were from triumph.
It looks like it could be this one to me. I think triumph also make one, but this is an after market one shop.lind.co.uk/products/triumph-colour-colour-coordinated-flyscreen?variant=32804620337233¤cy=GBP&cmp_id=12339802547&adg_id=117932739116&kwd=&device=c&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ad=498561527914&hsa_src=g&hsa_cam=12339802547&hsa_kw=&hsa_grp=117932739116&hsa_tgt=pla-1228437111497&hsa_ver=3&hsa_acc=6128254555&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIie_u1aHf9QIVDu3tCh0yRQA8EAQYAiABEgJI2vD_BwE
@@ToniReviews Hey, thanks for the research! Really appreciate it.
Why didn't TH-cam recommend you sooner? I like the style of your videos. Some really movie like, some straight and honest. Keep it up!
You must be more famous than I thought Toni, if you're getting letters delivered with no address. I can only think of Santa Claus and the Queen.🤔
When you have 900 subscribers you’ve pretty much made it. I did actually film the last sequence outside, but was heckled by fans who pulled up in a car jumped out and said I like your videos… had to go home to film the rest. It’s a nightmare being so famous
@@ToniReviews I wondered what all the excited screaming was in the background.🤩🤩🤩
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I have a booster plug coming for my Street Scrambler. I have a De-Cat header ready to install also. Was wondering if you think i should do one or the other first, then ride it, then do the second one. Or should i just go for it and put them both on at once? All responses welcome.
Hi. I installed my xpipe and later on also tried to smooth the throttle response with the booster plug. You have both parts so no doubt you will be looking to install both but it may be worth doing one at a time just so you can compare the differences. The booster plug only takes a few mins to install so leave that until last and see what you think. Hope this helps
@@ToniReviews Makes sense to me. Thanks.
I have fixed Booster plug (part # 2402) on Triumph Bonneville T 100, EFI, Air cooled, 865 CC, bike with Slip on Arrow Exhaust 2:2, I have NOT find any difference. Whether in slow running in city / average and faster on High ways. Still confused shall remove it / continue.
Regards
Thanks for sharing
My stock 18 model seems perfect fueling.
That’s very interesting. Mines 2017. It already had after market slip ins when I bought it and always had the flat spot at low rpms. I’ve made quite a few more mods since then and the problem still persisted until I fitted this booster plug. I know the euro 5 was introduced in2021 so this should be the same fuelling system. Very interesting thanks for sharing! 👍
@Toni Reviews the exhaust tampering threw the system out of balance I suspect.
Larry Norsworthy apparently the ecu runs lean on the stock bike and adding fryer market cans, xpipe k&n filetr etc re all meant to help the situation. The ecu naturally responds to these changes. It’s interesting to see everyone’s different experiences on here 👍
@@ToniReviews I bought it new.
I fitted the booster plug to my '20 Speedmaster, all seemed good for around 1 year and then the booster plug seemed not to work,whether the booster plug developed a problem or not I don't know, I did replace the booster plug with an aftermarket tune that seemed to cure the problems you talk about....I have an Xpipe and V&H mufflers fitted ,I have installed a second map after fitting the Vance and Hines....
Hi Jeff. Yes I’ve read the booster plug can be overrriden by the ecu in time, that it learns it’s being fooled almost. I must admit I felt the low speed jerkiness creeping back in, disconnected the battery and it seemed to cure it. Will see if it happens again. After market tube maybe another option will see how this goes, but that’s just for sharing this has really helped. I’ll give it a couple of months then add a comment to this post which gives an update on how it’s performing but thanks very much this is really helpful 👍
@@ToniReviews It never occurred to me to disconnect the battery, that's just like a reset of sort
Jeff Jones yep it’s exactly that like a reset. I’ll let you know how I get on, but if it’s a persistent thing continually disconnecting the battery might get a bit much. I’ll let you know how I get on
@@ToniReviews Hi Tony, I hope you see this, just an update on our conversation....I remapped my 2020 Speedmaster with a DNK tuning map around 18 months back and things were improved with smoother acceleration,the bike accelerated quicker and decel popping was minimised, about 5 or 6 months ago my bike started running like a bit of a dog, popping loudly on decel, not quite as good as what the overall bikes performance had been, I was thinking about what you said about the ECU learns it is being tricked by the booster plug and I suspected the same could possibly happen with a new tuning map,5 or so months back I remapped the bike again with the DNK Tuning map I was originally supplied, the bikes overall performance went back to when I had originally remapped the bike around 18 months ago, so it does look like a remapp will have to be done occasionally similar to the booster plug problem you found..tonight reading on a forum in a tuning section my suspicions were confirmed the ECU will eventually realise there is a different tuning map onboard....cheers
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Hello .. have you checked if the mileage has dropped after the plugs
Hi keyne. What do you mean the fuel efficiency? It’s difficult to tell. I think I noticed a change in fuel efficiency after I swapped out my cat for the x pipe and the k&n air filter. There doesn’t seem to be any further changes with the addition of the booster plug.
Can’t say I have ever noticed a flat spot on my 2016 Street Twin tbh
That’s very interesting. Mines 2017. It already had after market slip ins when I bought it and always had the flat spot at low rpms. I’ve made quite a few more mods since then and the problem still persisted until I fitted this booster plug. Very interesting thanks for sharing! 👍
@@ToniReviews Definitely interesting! Mine has the Vance & Hines scrambler pipe which has no cat. Before I fitted that it had the V&h end cans with an X-Pipe. I have honestly never noticed a flat spot. It pulls through the rev range nicely. Bizarre! My son has a 2017 St Twin and didn’t notice on that either when I rode it
@@ToniReviews Does pop a bit on engine braking but I kinda like that. Bikes done 40k kms now
LloydGrace1 I like the v&h scrambler pipe… lovely. Yes that is very interesting… I’ve always had the flat spot. I mostly notice it if I’m pulling out of somewhere into a low speed road. Another big flat spot movement is turning off the traction control and attempting a wheel spin, big flat spot there. I’ve also read some people saying the ecu can override the booster plug in time and the flat spot can reappear, which is rectified by disco the battery and resetting it…. Fingers crossed this isn’t true. It’s doing well so far, but as I mentioned it’s very minimal the flat spot anyway, nothing major at all… it just seems to smooth the whole ride out. Gear changes almost feel like you hit the sweet spot for rpm and slip straight into gear effortlessly. Again thanks for sharing that’s very interest know, especially since you have also made some mods to the bike also.
LloydGrace1 yes mine still pops on engine braking… I don’t mind that either 👍
I have a 2021 twin Should I buy one of this booster plug ? Does it have some benefits ? Thanks for vid👍🏻
Hi John. I don’t think the booster plugs are compatible with newer engines as they seem to be anti tamper to stick to latest eu emissions standards. You can check compatibility on the booster plug website. But if you are wondering if you need one, then I would say no don’t bother. If your riding and not noticing any issues with throttle response then your fine 👍
Hi ! Do you think this will work on a Euro 5 T120 or will the ECU negate all mods now ?
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Hi John . The reason these new bikes suffer with flat spots etc is because they are running lean to meet new emission standards. Currently from what I understand 2021 Euro 5 Triumph models CAN NOT fit any form of tuner, including BoosterPlug & Power Commander. This is due to the ECU having anti-tamper software. Doing so will cause the MIL light to come on.
There may be an advancement in time for overriding this issue but at the moment it’s fitted with anti tamper software.
The Booster plug company make plugs for all types of bikes and models. Check out the booster plug website to see if they make a plug for your particular model or are looking to make one for the future , but at present there doesn’t seem to be this option for the newer models. Hope this helps and makes sense? 👍😊
Hi John I updated the answer slightly, so hope you get to read this. 👍
@@ToniReviews Hi Toni ! Yah, just read an in-depth article at same time as you. In a nutshell you can’t. I was told also told when I bought new T120 that I can’t install a K & N air filter.
Thanks for your efforts and your research.
Apparently there are some in-depth articles. Now I know. I suppose you will keep your Euro 4 bike Toni.
@@johnmartin7158 hi John. Yes I’ll keep my bike as it’s a lovely bike and I love all the mods I’ve been able to do to it. No doubt in time after market companies will find a way around this issue
Can it be installed on a 2022 triumph bonneville bobber?
Hi. I don’t think so. I know triumph changed the engines to be more economical for emissions standards and I think these aren’t compatible with the newer models. But you can check on booster plug’s website. It should tell you which models are compatible. Hope this helps 👍
@@ToniReviews Thank you.
Hi Toni, Do I have to declare booster plug and XPipe to insurers?
Hi. most insurance companies do require you to declare any modifications. I have seen on various posts some owenrs attempting to decalare to their insureres the fact they have an xpipe and or booster plug installed, only to have some companies say the part isnt listed and so they have no category to put it under. I would say mention it to your insurance company and se what they say and how and if they can categorise it. Hope this helps :)
@@ToniReviews Thanks Toni. Will mention it and see what they say. Thanks
@@ToniReviews I just called my insurance and neither booster plug nor xpipe are on their system. So they have added them to the notes.
The good news is they wont affect my cost or cover. But they are addded to the notes incase there are issues claiming in the future.
Thanks Toni. Good advice!
Been browsing similar things like this for a while and I'm wondering ; is there a reason why you would not want the decelerating popping from your Triumph? These products all appear to advertise that they get rid of it, but I honestly love the sound of my 1200s decelerating pop, and it's the biggest reason why I'm not buying these products.
Hi… I suppose the sound of the popping is unburned fuel which means it’s not running completely efficiently, so they advertise this as another ‘bonus’. However let me assure you, you still get the popping, maybe slightly a little less so. Hope this helps 👍
It's only capable of very small changes to the off idle transition, but obviously it's not remapping the ECU. The newer bikes have a better factory tune, and benefit even less from this somewhat expensive gimmick. It tricks the ECU into slightly richening an already rich fuel curve which just loads the engine up even more, thus the perception that it's running smoother, when really it's just a less sputtering feel at lower rpms, which clears out when the rpms are a bit higher.
It is tricking the bike , but by tricking it, it is a smoother ride at lower rpms which can be a little annoying. The ecu are mapped to deliver a fuel economy so emission standards are met, resulting in a somewhat lumpy throttle response. Having used it for a short while I must say it’s nice having the smoother pull away or knowing a turn in the road isn’t necessarily going to get a LUL halfway through. I’d be interested to see how the newer models perform and if they suffer with any kind of issue related to low rpm flat spots and snatching?
@@ToniReviews With the Ducati Spacers for the throttle freeplay, the '20 and up bikes have none of these issues when thier stock. But who leaves anything stock? Not me! Most people de-cat and at least pull the baffles out of the mufflers like I have. Depending on elevation, riding style and fuel quality results will very.
@@andrewbecker3700 I've got a '20 euro 4 Scrambler XE which benefited greatly from the booster plug. TEC has a good video explaining exactly what it does which I'd recommend watching, 'tricking' the bike into thinking it is running 5 degrees colder. The booster plug is basically a thermometer and adjuster wired to the temp reading part of the electronics from my understanding. Anyway, has made a big difference for me at low revs (closed loop) and it almost never stalls now. The Ducati Spacer also worked a treat as I had quite a bit of throttle play. Looking at the forums it looks like the degree of play varies between models. Both useful mods for me.
Andrew Becker you absolutely right there!
d.COG. Yes I herd the scrambler cm be prone to cutting out at low revs. My street twin has never done that but there was quite a dip if doing. Low speed manoeuvre or turning off the traction control and doing a wheel spin. Thanks for sharing your experiences on here. Very interesting to read everyone’s different experiences 👍
I bought one if these and didnt noticed much change on my AFR sensor (in fact the mixture was barely changed). I opened the booster plug up and its simply a resistor that has the temperature probe going across it. Very basic unit and nothing like the 'clever' unit they suggest it is. Way overpriced for whats inside.
Many thanks for sharing. Yes my understanding is its simply a probe which allows the mixture to be changed. To be fair immediately there was a definite change in the throttle lag. Over time the blip caomes back. but if you disconnect the battery it seems to revert back to working again. Annoying but a semi / sort of fix to the blip situation. I think the great thing is these videos open up discussion and people can share their experiences. Thanks for sharing
@@ToniReviews the blip comes back because the closed loop system will see that the mixture is being richened outside of the ECU parameters and then adjust accordingly. That's why these are very short term solutions and not worth the money. A power commander or remap is the only real solution.
So is this plug and play? lol.... good explanatory video cheers ..... oh and clean yer bike under the seat too ... its minging lol
Hi Chris. Yes this is totally plug and play. As for under the seat it usually does get a spruce but it’s been sat for a year because of COVID and being sorn. I was shocked when I lifted the seat off and saw the dirt under there it’s never looked like that in it’s life, but didn’t have time to spring clean I had a booster plug to fit and it’s ever so time consuming 👍
What does a flatspot means?
When you turn the throttle and it revs, but then dips, and then returns to normal revs... so a flat spot. hope this helps
Plug in does NOT work!
Hi. I did notice a slight flat spot reappearing after a few miles on the clock. A disconnect and reconnection seemed to work… but it’s an ongoing issue I find. Did yours just not work from the beginning?