another great video, and outstanding explanation of the components and technique by Ike!!! I've mulled around the pros and cons of this rig in comparison to texas rigs, drop shots, wobble heads, and jika rigs... the ability to do what ALL of the techniques do only better just really makes sense. Let's hand it to VMC and Ike for bringing this here so we can all benefit... OUTSTANDING!
Thanks for the comment and open mind Greg. We also thought Ike delivered some legit points. Our staff is looking forward to digging in and expanding our education on the system as well.
I've made these litteraly for years. With paper clips and barrel sinkers. Mainly for drifting cut bait for catfish. But it's the exact same thing. That's awesome to see something so close designed and sold!!
Fished it for the first time last weekend here in NC. Solid set up. Fished it in the narlyist laydowns and it punched right through it. Pulled out a few lunkers too ;)
First time hearing about this rig and it looks fantastic. I’m gonna buy some right now. Thanks mike your the man and thanks wired for letting him shared the info.
Thanks Stuntman, if you're interested, here are a few other recent and informative videos using the rig: 1) Tokyo Rigging Bass Shallow to Deep - First Impressions - th-cam.com/video/6f4T8pkQnks/w-d-xo.html 2) The Bluegill-Bass Connection for Early Summer - th-cam.com/video/-oPU3XnlwiM/w-d-xo.html 3) Busting Matted Grass Bass With the Tokyo Rig - th-cam.com/video/H505iPnNJSc/w-d-xo.html
Hey Ike / Fellow Anglers , I been fishing this rig a while now . Got a tip for ya .Try putting a clicker and bead between the 2 weights , similar to a Carolina rig , works great !!!
Lol! tax forms with a little fishing talk mixed in maybe. Yeah, for this vid, he just went off like the radio -- didn't eliminate any of the audio, just all really interesting info and pointers on this rig.
It looks like it would land more fish with the weight being free like that. It seems it would reduce the leverage that a fish has versus a normal pegged Texas rig. Have you found that to be the case with your hookup to land ratio on it?
Absolutely. That's a major strength of the Tokyo Rig. No interference from the weight. Letting the hook penetrate first minimizes the leverage a fish has to throw the bait and also increases the odds for a solid hookset.
Reminds me of a Salmon rig (for steelhead with noodle rod), where 3 way swivel used, pencil lead for weight (cut to length to change weight to match the flow). Main difference is no line leader. Could attach hook to 3 way with split ring. Interesting! Often thought about using a steel head rig for bass. I have to check out what a Tokyo rig costs.
I love this rig. But if plan on changing weights on the fly, have 2 pairs of needle nose. It’s hard to get that wire straight enough to take weights off without 2 pliers. 👍🏻
So is the devil spear that he was using to demonstrate this rig discontinued or not? Because I’ve been searching for that thing every where and heard it was then see he has them in this video
Seems like a less discreet drop shot. If you let the line go slack, it will fall to the bottom whether it's wire or line. But maybe in spring I'll do a Tokyo Rig vs Drop Shot head-to-head.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe using a thick mono wire instead of metal....im thinking super clear water. Theres gotta be a way to make this less visible. In dark water this is awesome im sure. But in the ocean down here in the Keys......hmm
Fluorocarbon or braid depending conditions and angler preference. Works well with both. We have noticed a performance enhancement using braid on long casts (retrieving swim baits deep) - swinging jigs situation. Better feel and hook sets.
Hey Gaga, your standard fluorocarbon or braid flipping and pitching line works great. We've swam swimbaits across the bottom in 30 feet of water using 15lb fluorocarbon but 20lb fluoro is probably the most common for shallow, heavy cover applications. If you're a braid person, then 30-65lb will work depending on the cover. In general, favor the smaller diameter lines in deeper water or where heavy cover isn't as much of an issue and scale up based on the cover. Thanks for watching!
It's a welded steel O-ring. This VMC product video breaks down the actual bait specs in greater detail with some graphics: wired2.fish/RapTH-camTokyoRig
It's not any diffrent...either way if you go slack on a drop shot or a tokyo rig its gunna collapse and if you keep it tight it's going to stand up just the same..buuut if you punch with it like Ike said its not going to blow the fishes mouth open and that can be a game changer
I punch grass with a heavy drop shot. 65 pound braid and a 1oz torpedo weight and it works just fine. Just because the Tokyo rig has a wire leader most seem to claim that it keeps the hook off the bottom because of the rigid wire. Nonsense...Cast it out and drop your rod tip after the rig hits bottom and see if the wire is holding the bait off the bottom on a slack line. A rigid line is what keeps the bait above the weight and It doesn't matter if you have a braid leader or a wire leader. Whoever came up with this rig is very smart because it is just a wire leader drop shot, nothing more and they are selling a bunch of them.
We have fallen in love with it in the Great lakes region. Practically replaced some Texas rig and flipping situations. AND.. You can fish it on deep rock for Smallmouth. Stay tuned!!
Yes, most anglers are going to keep it moving. Definitely worth experimenting with floating plastics like Z-Man to see how it counterbalances the weight of the hook at rest.
1st, I'm sure when this technique catches on, VMC will expand and do straight shank flippin models. there's plenty of videos out already about making your own too
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Thanks Ike my favorite bass fisherman of all times..
another great video, and outstanding explanation of the components and technique by Ike!!! I've mulled around the pros and cons of this rig in comparison to texas rigs, drop shots, wobble heads, and jika rigs... the ability to do what ALL of the techniques do only better just really makes sense. Let's hand it to VMC and Ike for bringing this here so we can all benefit... OUTSTANDING!
Thanks for the comment and open mind Greg. We also thought Ike delivered some legit points. Our staff is looking forward to digging in and expanding our education on the system as well.
first i have used the tokyo rig for about almost 4 months and it has worked great .great video keep up the great content
Thanks for sharing your experience Jeff. Just one of the systems you have to fish to believe.
Jeff Johns what situations have you found where it works best?
Troy Hendricks around rocks docks stumps and bedding fish
Ike breaks down any lure and technique best, specific and hitting on all the bases! Great video and explanations Ike! Gotta try it! 👍💥
No question. He's a true one take wonder.
Definitely trying this the next time I fish. Great breakdown. Love it!
Thanks mate for sharing this! I'm gonna try it out. Greetings from Holland and have a great weekend, Pat. 👊🏼👍🏼🇳🇱🎣
I've made these litteraly for years. With paper clips and barrel sinkers. Mainly for drifting cut bait for catfish. But it's the exact same thing. That's awesome to see something so close designed and sold!!
And thanks for sharing some insight into your homemade setup. I'm sure some tinkering anglers will give your approach a try!
Mike you give excellent explanations of how to! Thanks
Appreciate it Jim. Good luck playing with the system -- I suspect you'll come up with some of your own innovative ways to fish it. Stay healthy!
Thanks Ike!
You bet Willey Poboy!
Fished it for the first time last weekend here in NC. Solid set up. Fished it in the narlyist laydowns and it punched right through it. Pulled out a few lunkers too ;)
Awesome, thanks for sharing Jay. We've had excellent luck with it around hard cover too.
First time hearing about this rig and it looks fantastic. I’m gonna buy some right now. Thanks mike your the man and thanks wired for letting him shared the info.
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Just heard about these last month about to buy a few then make my own. Great looking presentation!
Thanks Stuntman, if you're interested, here are a few other recent and informative videos using the rig:
1) Tokyo Rigging Bass Shallow to Deep - First Impressions - th-cam.com/video/6f4T8pkQnks/w-d-xo.html
2) The Bluegill-Bass Connection for Early Summer - th-cam.com/video/-oPU3XnlwiM/w-d-xo.html
3) Busting Matted Grass Bass With the Tokyo Rig - th-cam.com/video/H505iPnNJSc/w-d-xo.html
I've seen pro Japanese anglers fishing this rig for a long time. It's a quite unique rig.
Hey Ike / Fellow Anglers , I been fishing this rig a while now . Got a tip for ya .Try putting a clicker and bead between the 2 weights , similar to a Carolina rig , works great !!!
Mike, awesome video on an unique technique.
I'm gonna utilize the Toyko rig this spring.
Marvin Costanza *IKE
Here in Tennessee we use a short piece of .035 spinnerbait wire! Been doing this for several years! Great video, keep um coming! Thanks
Great video Ike. Made me buy one.
It works... I’ve caught LMB even during the winter. I’ll even add a glass bead between the weights
I love picking Mikes brain about new rigs. I could listen to Ike talk about tax forms for 3hrs.
Lol! tax forms with a little fishing talk mixed in maybe. Yeah, for this vid, he just went off like the radio -- didn't eliminate any of the audio, just all really interesting info and pointers on this rig.
I miss being able to buy the Devil Spear bait he's using off the shelf. I caught a ton of fish on them. I will try one on this rig.
I miss them as well. eBay you can find smoking deals though.
How many bends will the wire take till it breaks?
Nice breakdown. I definitely need to try these out this year. Great video 👊🏻
The concept seems sound. Why the short wire? Why not a little longer depending on the bottom you’re fishing on?
Awesome...keep up the great work.
Thanx ike
Great video! Do you know what gage the wire is to hold the weights?
It's pretty heavy stainless steel dropper but not sure about the wire gauge.
The Tokyo rig looks like a great I look forward to trying it.
That looks really good. I hope to get to try one soon.
Great presentation plus info I just order a few to text out. Than you.
It looks like it would land more fish with the weight being free like that. It seems it would reduce the leverage that a fish has versus a normal pegged Texas rig. Have you found that to be the case with your hookup to land ratio on it?
Absolutely. That's a major strength of the Tokyo Rig. No interference from the weight.
Letting the hook penetrate first minimizes the leverage a fish has to throw the bait and also increases the odds for a solid hookset.
I could see putting a glass bead between the weights.
Mike, what is the name of the trailer you were adding to the rig?
Reminds me of a Salmon rig (for steelhead with noodle rod), where 3 way swivel used, pencil lead for weight (cut to length to change weight to match the flow). Main difference is no line leader. Could attach hook to 3 way with split ring. Interesting! Often thought about using a steel head rig for bass. I have to check out what a Tokyo rig costs.
Gonna try this idea on the ice.
I love this rig. But if plan on changing weights on the fly, have 2 pairs of needle nose. It’s hard to get that wire straight enough to take weights off without 2 pliers. 👍🏻
Cool rigging, first time seeing anything about it really. Any footage of it in action out there? Like underwater with a few strikes?
Hey Carl, here's some underwater footage: wired2.fish/TokyoRigUW
We have a few fish catch videos dropping here soon as well so stay tuned.
So is the devil spear that he was using to demonstrate this rig discontinued or not? Because I’ve been searching for that thing every where and heard it was then see he has them in this video
We're pretty positive it has been discontinued. A lot of the Havoc line morphed into PowerBait and I don't think the devil spear got the nod.
These are awesome. When do they hit the shelves in the North East?
They're on the market now. Link in description, but if Tackle Warehouse is out, you should he able to find other places.
How about put glass bead in between the weigh?
Absolutely, a lot of guys are doing that for increased sound 👍.
After opening and closing the ahank to change weights does it break at the bend point?
Jj Rayguns we haven’t had that issue. The metal is pretty pliable so it avoids breaking.
That's awesome! Thanks for having teaching videos and not "fishing" videos! Could I use a braid to floro for this rig?
Nice breakdown man. I really need to pick some up.
Will be curious to hear your thoughts and experiences after you get some wheel time with it.
@@Wired2Fish I'll happily keep ya posted.
great advice from a fish master..impressive
Awesome 👍, Game Changer!!!
Seems like a less discreet drop shot. If you let the line go slack, it will fall to the bottom whether it's wire or line. But maybe in spring I'll do a Tokyo Rig vs Drop Shot head-to-head.
I agree. The cutting edge technique is more $$$$ in Mike IKE's pocket. Its just a wire drop shot, plain and simple.
🤔Wonder if this could be perfect for inshore saltwater fishing too?
Probably some cool applications. We're not as knowledgable in salt water but very curious to see if there is some crossover.
In Japan we use heavier sinkers on the rig for some grouper and flatfish species.
Whenever i throw the Tokyo rig i get stuck a lot. What am i doing wrong
How did you get the s on the hook
Hi George, Ike goes through that at the 3:00 mark -- it's just a simple crimp in the wire using a needle nose pliers.
Good video/presentation. Im a bank fisherman. I think i might try this.
been doing this for years. But great video! keep up the great work.
This works like bottom bouncer for walleyes.
Is there a finesse version of the Tokyo rig?
Evobassfishmn yes a drop shot lol
So with all that in mind whats the best hook set a swip hook set or a more over the head hook set
570 bassin same as if you were flipping or punching. Set the hook overhead as if you’re trying to make that fish fly.
Overhead is the best way to go
Nice 👍
I got 4 tokyo rigs ready for spring that i made myself dasa
what did you do for the solid ring ...connecting the wire, hook and line?
@@georgeclapenstein7823 just use a split ring...
I wonder how this rig can be used in saltwater if it makes the transition over to it.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe using a thick mono wire instead of metal....im thinking super clear water. Theres gotta be a way to make this less visible. In dark water this is awesome im sure. But in the ocean down here in the Keys......hmm
I made one this past weekend and caught a fish within 5 mins.
What soft plastic is that?
Anyone knows what bait is that at 5:55?
Believe it's a discontinued Berkley Havoc bait.
You running it on florocarbon line?
Fluorocarbon or braid depending conditions and angler preference. Works well with both. We have noticed a performance enhancement using braid on long casts (retrieving swim baits deep) - swinging jigs situation. Better feel and hook sets.
@@Wired2Fish Thanks for taking the time to repiy.
I like the idea but what's the down side? Has anyone tried this thing yet? Serious question.
Like Texas Rig or any rig with weight barrel, don't use this in rocky area. It will snag
💪👍Thank
I tried a Tokyo rig today with a weedless wacky rig........*MONEY*
Oh,a diferent drop shot......Thought this was called the Bubba Shot.
What line you are using
Hey Gaga, your standard fluorocarbon or braid flipping and pitching line works great. We've swam swimbaits across the bottom in 30 feet of water using 15lb fluorocarbon but 20lb fluoro is probably the most common for shallow, heavy cover applications. If you're a braid person, then 30-65lb will work depending on the cover. In general, favor the smaller diameter lines in deeper water or where heavy cover isn't as much of an issue and scale up based on the cover. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for answering
Going to be punching some heavy pads with this rig this weekend
The first time i used this I caught a catfish on a worm punching thru sum thick grass...fun surprise!
It’s like a drop shot with a really short leader except it’s stiff
o ring or split ring?
It's a welded steel O-ring. This VMC product video breaks down the actual bait specs in greater detail with some graphics: wired2.fish/RapTH-camTokyoRig
How is this different from the drop shot presentation? Hahaha. Watch the rest and you kind of answered it
It's not any diffrent...either way if you go slack on a drop shot or a tokyo rig its gunna collapse and if you keep it tight it's going to stand up just the same..buuut if you punch with it like Ike said its not going to blow the fishes mouth open and that can be a game changer
I punch grass with a heavy drop shot. 65 pound braid and a 1oz torpedo weight and it works just fine. Just because the Tokyo rig has a wire leader most seem to claim that it keeps the hook off the bottom because of the rigid wire. Nonsense...Cast it out and drop your rod tip after the rig hits bottom and see if the wire is holding the bait off the bottom on a slack line. A rigid line is what keeps the bait above the weight and It doesn't matter if you have a braid leader or a wire leader. Whoever came up with this rig is very smart because it is just a wire leader drop shot, nothing more and they are selling a bunch of them.
That's good for Florida but not here on new Hampshire
We have fallen in love with it in the Great lakes region. Practically replaced some Texas rig and flipping situations. AND.. You can fish it on deep rock for Smallmouth. Stay tuned!!
That bait is going to fall from the weight of the hook and the bait and end up next to your wire/weight system, unless it’s constantly moving.
Yes, most anglers are going to keep it moving. Definitely worth experimenting with floating plastics like Z-Man to see how it counterbalances the weight of the hook at rest.
Would be all over it if you could swap out hooks, i don't like EWGs.
1st, I'm sure when this technique catches on, VMC will expand and do straight shank flippin models. there's plenty of videos out already about making your own too
Mantappp bang terbaik dah nyimak saya ya.😆
Really cool. And easy to make so we dont really have to buy it.
We have been doing this for almost a decade in Wisconsin lol
You're ahead of the pack! How does the system work for you?
Love VMC products, this rig looks great....
Can I get a VMC decal for my Skeeter please. I need to dress her up some. 😂
its one of his best F**king rigs.
Why not just peg it instead of bending the wire? It looks thick enough that a bobber stopper wouldn't slide off.
It's made to fish cover as a drop shot-ish technique. Slightest cover would push that bobber stop off and lose alot of weights.
Hate to break that off those weights are 8.99 a peice
Toss a glass bead in-between the weights for a different clack....
I can make that rig easy use a old spinner bait wire cut the wire and a ewg hook .
It's a japanese micro drop shot
So this is a glorified Scooby rig? Y'all can do this to any soft plastic rig with a small section of mono and clamp leads
I prefer the Hiroshima rig.
big ole wire hanging down, makes me wonder why we worry about fish seeing our braided fishing line, and worry about fluorocarbon
Very true. Bass eat the heck out of plastics on the Tokyo Rig and don't seem to mind the wire.
Lol its a copy of jika rig which i been using for 4 to 5 years
Similar, but not even close.
Tokyo rig isn't close to being new
He never claimed it to be new, just unkown. This video is more of an advertisement for VMC than anything else.
@@stevemccormack8101 they are acting like it is.
Cheaper to make your own
Complicated drop shot