Every Cut Weapon in Fallout: New Vegas
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Episode 46 of a series where we examine the cut content design and development of Fallout New Vegas. In this episode, we take a look at every single cut and unattainable weapon, mod and ammo type in Fallout: New Vegas, even including legacy content from Fallout 3 and Black Isle's canceled Fallout 3, Van Buren.
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Who won the lottery? I DID
Woah slow down... Lottery? What Lottery?
'Shoots you and takes lottery ticket' ooh i won the lottery
Rides over lucky asshole time to die
SMELL THAT AIR!
@Doctor Mitchell why are you such a good man
Photographer: “I want to take a picture of this memorial, to show the people back home how hard the NCR has fought for all these years.”
Kowalski: “WTF are you doing, you’re desecrating a war memorial!”
his brother was a bitch and so was he
"You're a little bitch and your brother was, too."
Kowalski, analysis
Lol
Cursed Big Iron time.
Its really dumb that the gangsters in fallout 4 used normal tommy guns when they could have used laser rcws.
Both exist in the fallout universe though so I don't see why not (though the RCW would have been a cool addition)
Fo4 is horrible in breaking the Canon so it isn't surprising to see some random stuff in that game
@@vihavoittamaton849 Despite its issues i think fallout 4 have way better gameplay and creature AI
@@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 I stood on a box in fallout four and it could do nothing because the raiders kept trying to melee me. In new Vegas they will back up till they can shoot you again.
@@AceOfBlackjack As i said again. Fallout 4 has huge issues and its a buggy piece of shit but i felled it have better and smooth gameplay and the ghouls, deathclaw, mirelurks and other mutants have better animation than New Vegas or 3. I`m not talking about humanoids type of enemies because i know them how they work and there dumb af but ffs stop praising about New Vegas did right its almost like a cult now, i understand its the only good modern fallout game, have the best story, factions, npcs (I love Joshua) best dlcs but Fallout 4 isn't that bad as everyone say it. Yes it have boring arsenal, boring quest, no rpg mechanics at all, it force you to be a good guy which is boring, it have terrible written off characters but the game is still decent and fun to play (Despite the fact that you can get bored easily after you are high level and i even forgot that i have to save my son and that`s how easily forgettable the story is but still its a good game i enjoy it) Everyone got rights to like what they want if people like bethesda leave them you dont have to start a war full deathreats and the same thing is with bethesda fan if people like obsidians\black isle fallouts games leave them to like them. I personally love the older fallouts and new vegas because of their dark setting and truly captures the dark atmosphere of what wasteland will be. No wonder i quit the fallout new vegas community there are so braindead, toxic that i got ashamed to be part of those faggots (There is some chill guys and i respect but the others? No.) I got off quickly of the comment i was supposed to do but i wanted to tell my opinion without being blinded by nostalgia nor fanboism.
The Chinese Officer sword actually DOES appear in FNV. It's an upscaled static object in the control room in Hidden Valley, as part of the BoS emblem.
Similar to the more well known Chinese Pistol, two Infiltrators, and a Railway Rifle in Mick's secret shop.
I'm impressed by how much josh Sawyer knows about guns, it definitely translated over to how good the guns are in the game!
Sadly it’s limited by the Gamebryo engine. Fallout 4’s gunplay is the best over all fallout games. It almost feels like Call of Duty’s gunplay.
@@siegfried2k4 Unfortunately that is let down by having an extremely limited number of weapons, half of which are variants of the Pipe Pistol.
@Joseph Thompson it shouldnt be because it uses custom assets and will require NV to install
@Joseph Thompson The reason they got flagged before was because they reused voice assets from the original NV. Now they’re up again because they’re recreating every single of piece of dialog with voice-alikes they hired.
I think I read somewhere that John sawyer did the modeling/demonstration (I'm not exactly sure what it's properly called lol.) For Joshua Graham's animation, when he's unloading and press checking the M1911s. I guess he brought his personal M1911 in and demonstrated it? Don't know if that's true but it's pretty dope if it is.
The sheer variety in weapons in New Vegas was always one of my favorite aspects of it. I loved finding a new a weapon and experimenting with it, and so many of them were quite creative.
Well, maybe for gun nuts, but us melee fans were left high and dry, relatively speaking. They could have at least had a cavalry sabre, considering the wild west theme.
@@johnmooney5829 I've always been surprised that there haven't been that many mods to add melee/unarmed weapons. Part of the reason I rarely play melee characters.
@@johnmooney5829 Unarmed was the clear superior melee choice in NV but there a few great options for melee though like knock knock, gehenna, chances knife and the katana
The Anti-Materiel Rifle+ remains my favorite Fallout weapon to this day.
More like the sheer vatiety of ammo
I think the nellis artillery gun could be part of a quest, it would better explain the unique ammo type.
Yeah, would make sense that the guards would wield them, as I don't remember any mortars in Nellis. The lady at the front gate even has a Fat Man.
It’s actually the arterelly Fire day you originally a modification gives a top down view.
I dont think you actually ever see the mortars, even during the Hoover dam fight.
@@radial8955 it always struck me as odd that the Boomers only have one howitzer in their base
@@bjrn-oskarrnning2740 I'm pretty sure you can find the Artillary closer to the back of Nellis
Actually, with the Wild Wasteland perk, if you got north to the cliffs, you can find Aliens somewhere near the cliffs, and they carry Tri-Beam's...
And theres one located in Van Graffs
@@boogit9979 yeah, there too...kinda been forever since I played...
@@RIGaming7110 i was just adding to your comment :)
@@boogit9979 yes, thank you...
This is true. The ones added by 'Gun Runners Arsenal" can be modified. GRA actually added a few "new" variants of existing weapons where the mods were the only new thing.
4:28 This is actually how they shoot the artillery barrage in game. I think it being marked playable is simply an oversight.
The idea of EDE with melee is hilarious to me. Just picture getting basically headbutt by an Eyebot.
Flying roomba with a knife
I think Fallout 1 and 2 had floating eye bots with melee weapons.
Fun fact about Borris the cyber dog. You don't have to kill him, and if you don't it unlocks unique dialogue in the think tank about it.
How?
@@rokmun680 don’t kill it just run around searching the piles for the audio upgrade
@@Covertosprey but dosent it self destruct after?
@@rokmun680 his reactor is unstable, that's why it blows up when you kill him
I tried to not kill him in my second through... turns out robot scorpions all more powerful then giant robot dogs.
Stripper clips are general used to load guns that do not have detachable magazines, and are generally loaded from the top of the action. Such as Mauser rifles. So, maybe it was originally planned to have the hunting rifle loaded that way? What would fit in to more realistic weapon style FNV has. As well as explain why it got cut.
The Lee Enfield rifle, M14, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head were able to accept both detachable magazines and stripper clips. The reason behind this is because a stripper clip costs pennies to produce, whereas (at least at the time of their inceptions) costed dollars to produce. It was more economical (and saved weight to boot) to issue stripper clips over magazines. Even more modern rifles such as the M16/AR-15 can load magazines with stripper clips, just not the rifle itself because of how the action & receivers are designed.
@@brandondalton1499 That is not untrue. though a little bit more complicated than that. Also, hence why the word "generally" was used... Any further information on firearm mechanics just would have been dubious for my point.
@@brandondalton1499 with the SMLE and some other rifles , it wasn't just due to cost , it was also because the mags were rather fragile
But that does boomerang back to cost , you screw up a mag , not only was it an ordeal on cost of mag , but some guns have fitted mags , so not only that , you have to pay the armorer or a gunsmith to make it work again
You screw up a stripper clip , oh well , here's a new one
Soldiers will be soldiers
Hence why the mas-36 had to have it's bayonet modified so they wouldn't Chinese finger trap two rifles together
As a bonus fun fact
@@jonslife3533 Ah yes, you also watched Ian's video on the MAS-36 finger trap!
@@jonslife3533 Fun fact. Mr. Lee intended his rifles to be issued with multiple magazines from the start. When the Remington Lee saw limited adoption with the
US Navy, they did exactly that. Probably the first use of magazines pouches on web gear.
Weapons are the personality of a game, and well fallout new Vegas has personality
Like the song of 3
A lot of personality
Its interesting to see how much van bueran influenced NV
Mostly because members of Black Isle studios went to found Obsidian and they used most of Van buren/bueran (whatever its called) ideas and concepts into new vegas
Van Buren inspired alot in fallout 3 too.
@@sajadhoxhaj6603 Van Buren was supposed to be Fallout 3. It got canned when Bethesda got the rights to the franchise. Obsidian just decided to continue Van Buren as Fallout New Vegas when Bethesda gave them a chance to make a Fallout game.
good thing too, they were already so damn crunched.
@@SovietMarmalade This is just too wrong for me to ignore. Van Buren got cancelled around the time Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel flopped. This was a few years before Bethesda ever thought of buying the rights to Fallout.
That Artillery Fat Man seems interesting. I could see you loading a legit artillery shell where the mini nuke would go. I feel like that would be a EXTREMELY heavy weapon to lug around though
Well considering it would likely just be a modified Fatman I'd say the weapon would be about the same weight, but the ammo would've been heavy af!
I think the fatman was originally designed for use with the t-45 power armor, so the weight wouldn’t really matter
I have a love hate relationship with your channel, I love it because you make really well made content about an interesting game that I hold close to my heart, but I just hate hearing what new Vegas could have been, I wish we could get a FNV remaster but with the content they removed due to hardware or engine limitations but I know that will likely never happen
Just remember if there are infinite universes there is one that has a FNV with all of content.
I would like them to add a lot more guns to the games
@@courier6402 its a shame it cant be this one
It would just have more 'cut content' even if it was made for 10 years.
@@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer Indeed; Pretty much every game has some form of cool content that had to be cut due to engine limitations, difficulty coding, or overall not being worth the effort. There would have been more weapons, but also many cut ones. As the scope of the game increases, so does the potential of taking out large pieces of content. On the plus side, New Vegas has the greatest variety of base weaponry in the entire series.
On a less related note: The Legendary system in the later Fallouts does not count as much, as it is *semi-random* (often non-sensical like a radiation gun that deals extra 'damage' to ghouls) effects rather than intentional designs on guns. The system, unfortunately, take the place of the scrapped ammo system. In my opinion, the Legendary system is far better suited in the Elder Scrolls Franchise (but the enchantment system already covers this better) while the weapon modification system should be greatly refined in future Bethesda Fallouts (If that happens while under Microsoft's leadership, of course, which also includes Obsidian).
The ballistic fist icon is used for two step goodbye
Simply a guess, but perhaps the "Pure Water" ammo type was meant for a canteen, like the one in one of the pre-order packs?
Any chance it's how the Vault 13 canteen works?
@@zacharyrollick6169 maybe it was an early attempt at making it work
It was probably a scrapped idea for Hardcore that would have the player able to fill their canteen from clean water sources as an alternative to carrying purified bottles
Personally the dart gun was over powered especially against deathclaws
Agreed, that thing made Deathclaws into light work. Can't get clawed up if they have all their limbs crippled at once.
it completely kills the hobbler perk
@@crabinijig8403 Good if you didn't have it.
As in the perk.
New Vegas has an alternative - Compliance Regulator. Especially for the critical builds.
And, of course, unarmed builds have a few ways to disable any opponent.
I remember when I thought this series was only going to be 3 episodes lol. Keep up the good work! :)
Thanks dude 🖤
Forgive me Lord but I'm high as hell but clearly I've been blessed with this video to watch at my peak high. Blessed.
dude i just finished “gardening” and i’m pretty high as well
Double bless
I'm fucking tripping balls and this is what I need
Blessed indeed.
Dude weed
8:48 Nice Perfect Dark music.
Also, for FO3 weapons cut from FNV, parts of the Chinese Assault Rifle makes an unusable cameo during the quest "How Little We Know" when you're given the option to destroy the weapons caches.
That's awesome! I had no idea. I fucking love all the detail that was put into FNV
i knew it was from perfect dark
Also in Mick and Ralph's you can see some 3 guns on the wall
@@TriangleCity do you know that tri-beam laser rifle is part of the base game in New Vegas as brotherhood of steel use sometimes
Nobody:
Service rifle with a bayonet, reflex and improved springs: I'm tactical AF boi
Or can modify it to look like a M16A2 HBAR. Would be fucking sweet with a burst receiver.
Okay
Bro I've always seen the Infiltrator in mick and Ralphs and I've always wondered if I could get it somehow
I want that weapon
The GPMG actually shows up on the achievement icon "The Boss" for reaching level 30, alongside the flashbang. Stripper clips for the Remington Model 70 were also probably scrapped because, realistically, there's no advantage to running clips over just swapping the mag (as is already done in Fallout 3) and clips can't be used in conjunction with a scope on most weapons.
I wish there was a unique anti material rifle, that would be super badass
There technically is just pick it off the ncr gun in the tower lol.
There’s a cool mod called “jackpot” which introduces a golden anti materiel rifle, it gives you a sneak debuff, but gives you +1 charisma by carrying it
You know, I haven't played New Vegas since at least 2011. For some reason your videos came up to me this year thanks to the algorithm. I wouldn't generally care about an older game but on a whim I watched it and...I can't say what it is. I watched it, and I watched a few more, and now I can't stop watching them.
you havent played since 2011????!!!!! You have to come back to the mojave my guy
the mojave needs you my good sir
"an element of resource management, something that's missing from melee and unarmed builds" I feel like there's a really good reason for that not existing.
I mean with an energy blade or so i believe it would be better to have an Batterie or if you have a chainsaw,
Because otherwise you just discovers an infinite Energie source
@@sergeantsharkseant nuclear power
Melee is broken and is one of my favorite playstyles but I agree resource management would of made it better and more interesting/not as OP and there still wouldve been non reloading ones like knife or baseball bat probably. Plus we would've got cool reload animations.
Thank you for continuing this phenomenal content
You sound like a surfer dude, and I enjoy it.
Fun fact: there's fallout 3 weapons in the secret armory in Mick and ralphs
Edit I called it the secret armory because there's alot of weapons
@Bigfart1234 yep
you can’t get them tho they’re just static items
@@firstnameiii7270 i know
@@firstnameiii7270 you must be illiterate, since no where did OP say "you can get into the back of the armory"
hey Triangle, what gun mod youre using? looks really cool
Its funny to think back... I was plasma heavy in fallout 3. Because with the right perks you were unstoppable. But in new Vegas I went ballistic because the perks favored bullet weapons over energy or plasma. Yea sure there was energy weapon perks to get.. but in the end it was way better to leave up small and big guns. Just incase you couldn't talk yourself out of a sticky situation you had 10 times the bullets compared to energy or micro fusion cells.
One of the things I truly admired NV for was the added ammo crafting/reloading feature, compared to its other installments. It made the game so much more immersive and strategic - specially on Hardcore, which meant prioritizing your ammo to suit the encounter, and thus utilizing the rounds/shells/cells best suited, furthermore making every shot count.
When I first saw the F4 trailer about modding every weapon and armor, I immediately hoped to see the same for the ammo. Sadly I was disappointed and same with the lack of weapon and armor degradation (??). It´s an apocalyptic wasteland, how would your gear not be worn through wear and tear? But I digress; cool video though
Yeah, maybe it's a big player comfort for a lot of people but I really hated that your weapon never degraded.
I don't know if you made this because of my comment, but thank you for doing a video on only cut content!
The plasma rifle weak could have been a funny unique weapon. Most think its garbage until they see someone one shot a death claw with a crit.
playing with the scarlet hand wraps is actually so fun. it's so satisfying to punch enemies and they get knocked out and electrocuted.
a large variety of weapons is always a fantastic thing in a game which fallout 3 and 4 sorely lack, the weapon mod system in 4 doesnt really do it for me cause weapons always end up following a linear upgrade path rather than you being able to create unique and interesting weapon configurations
Anyone else think the weapons in fo4 kinda look really ugly af,
I agree that fallout 4 had a lot less weapons than they should have but the mod system certainly wasn't linear. If you look at weapon mods in NV they're all just straight up improvements over the base version but in 4 you can change how the gun functions
@@D0MIN0W4LKER I'll come back to this if I can think of anything else, but I like the sawed off hunting rifle look a lot.
The idea for the water gun, I would imagine you could use Flamer fuel to a less heavy Flamer, but it does way more damage to the gun itself
The sheer amount of weapons in the game is astounding, yet I always end up using the same weapons - This Machine and A Light Shining in Darkness, primarily - during every playthrough. There are some weapons that I've never even used at all, mostly late-stage melee weapons.
Just gonna say you have the perfect narrating voice for this type of content
Wow! I am new to this channel and am very impressed by all the research and detail put into this video! Great Job and I am definitely liking and subscribing to your channel! Keep up the quality content and work!
i still cant believe how much content you got out of the cut assets fallout NV keep up the great work dude found your channel 2 years back when looking for fallout new vegas cut content .
Thank you for presenting this info is such a nice way
It would've been so cool to do a Chinese pistol playthrough.
I think it would do good as a pistol that did damage between the 9mm and 10mm pistols and was obtainable in slightly after the early game
Great video! Always love to look at game development and I was actually thinking about how it’s odd no unique laser RCW was in game. Definitely using the mod now
Now this was pretty cool, thanks Triangle
This series/channel is amazing!
TriangleCity can you do a video on fallout new Vegas cut armour and clothing? I remember Reading one the fallout wiki that FNV was supposed to have raider power armour in it was a mix of I Believe t-45 and t-51 power armor
Another great video, thank you! I found it really weird that the model for the double barrel shot gun from point lookout is in NV's files, yet isn't a fully realized weapon, though I guess the caravan shotgun does make it a bit redundant.
The laser pdw sound is magnificent
Could the Riveters be a nod to Bioshock? I know a few stuff of Bioshock made their way in New Vegas and their riveter looks like a heavy weapon.
It was more likely an attempt to include a planned weapon from Van Buren, which predated Bioshock.
i wish they kept the cut cryolator in the files from fallout 3. smh my head😔
good stuff as always
I didn't even know the cryolator was cut from F3 😮
Thanks dude! 💙
@@TriangleCity 👍 no probs bro
8:49 Carrington Institute Theme... Nice!
I'm glad someone remembers Perfect Dark!
its actually amazing how many weapons made it into the game, this video has since improved my knowledge of the game drastically, and its basically the only fallout i play. currently working on the dlcs now.
I rewatch your content often, here I am again
The tri beam laser rifle was in new vegas it was one of a kind before gun runners
I love the perfect dark music
Real well put together video
"It can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger,"
*Me having Borderlands flashbacks to Jakobs weapons*
Unless it's the rex or elephant gun then it's slower then that
It’s a happy day when you post
The Faderator is extremly useful against Deathclaws and boss characters like Legate Lanius because it's overpowered.
I really appreciate the style of your videos, very informative and documentary-like.
Have you considered doing a video just going through all NV-related questions that Josh Sawyer (and other devs) have been asked on his (their) Tumblr?
I love how this is the only cut content video where you admit that the cut content would not have improved the game. It's true, the guns are a surprisingly exceptional part of FNV and have aged well for a 10+ year old game.
As unfortunate as it is, it’s better to have cut things out due to time constraints than have to add more due to time constraints
18:14 someone may have commented this already (in which case sorry) but the tri beam is in the base game
Not Gabe! I always keep him alive.
Thank you
I should point out, 15mm EC is Electromagnetic Cartridge, not Energy Cells.
I didn't even know about that photo quest lol
I really wanna try it out now
great work triangle
I’ve been anticipating this one.
kinda random but i like your voice and the way you speak. you enunciate well and emphasize properly, so thanks.
Great vid as usual
Yeah, cause fallout 4 had like 10 guns
Borderlands curse of 10 guns
this channel is a gem
If this game every gets remade I wish every weapon gets a unique variant. Especially guns like the the anti material rifle and light machine gun.
Bozar?
Doc Mitchell: I Cant Pick up this picture and show it to you. That animation is too hard.
Joshua Graham: *Reloads 19-11 pistols with malicious intent
19-11?
@@augustdenger8231
I don't know one pew-pew from another bang bang shooty shooty.
@@screamingphoenix8113 okay well generally, when there is a number in the name of a firearm/vehicle/anything it either denotes its year of adoption or its model number. In this case, the "M" stands for model and the "1911" refers to its year of adoption by the Colt company, and it was subsequently adopted as such by militaries around the world.
Wow, this is a very very informative Video 👍
So the lonesome road dlc was built through assets found in the trash, explains a lot
you're really making me wanna start a new nv playthrough
WHOA, that camera is so cool.
These videos are such a treasure. You put in so much work and give an exhaustive amount of information from every possible source. I start to get a feeling similar to when I watched the Bungie ViDocs and felt like I knew the developers. The love for these videos matches the passion that Obsidian put into this game. Awesome work yet again.
Great video, I was wondering whats your modlist for your fallout nv videos. If I could have a mod list that would be highly apricated.
Would've made sense to put the cut Chinese weapons with the stealth suits in the damn tho...
What about the shock sword? That was an awesome weapon for getting up close and personal.
9:10 I like the use of the perfect dark music
Thanks as always
The laser pdw sounds a lot like mini guns in fallout 2
I would've loved a photo taking quest!
What if one snipes the war memorial from render distance, would that guy still come directly to confront?
Actually you can get the tri beam laser rifle in base fnv but only at certain merchants and higher level players.
I remembered being disappointed that the Railway Rifle wasn't usable in NV.
The fact that the missile launcher used to fire down Highwater Trousers orbital satcom strike on the tower near Raven Rock in fallout 3 still is in NV files tells you how much was ported over.
Abd it works exactly the same too, using missiles to to fire oversized rockets with a nuclear fat man blast and radiation output.
Iirc the FO3 enclave devil armour and the shock trooper armours are in the files as well, better even than the Remnants FO2 classic style one for DT
4:00 you can get the gun and ammo when you spawn in all gun/ammo container it’s in there(with commands )
ngl, this dude sounds like Chris McClean. Sounds like he's about to reveal the cut content of the Island of Wawanakwa
That’s the original “total drama” island, right?
Dropping a Sub great video !
Tri beam laser rifles do exist in base game. You can get them at the the van graffs and the Wild Wasteland Aliens
If a video is this old, you can guarantee someone has already commented every single mistake I've made, but thanks for telling me again?
@@TriangleCity if you want to prevent that like well 99% of the human population does then you should pin a comment of either you or someone else clarifying that you recognise the error this should stop a decent amount of people leaving a comment although not all
One of the reasons why FNV picked my interest when I was younger and it's truly a shame that so many weapons were cut from the game. Great video btw👍
I just came to write (before watching) that the Debug MegaPistol and the Hand Wraps that's associated with one the DlCs are my absolute faves.
The latter is absolutely funny when in use.
That's all. Good day!
That cut pip boy icon is actually still in the game.
It is what ceasers fist looks like in your inbent